5:25 you can also add in a bunnyhop (or several if you're good enough) to maintain the momentum of the kick for faster rollouts from spawn. It's minimal but it has allowed me to barely touch on overtime when I wouldn't have otherwise. Sadly you can't just bind scrollwheel to jump since it'll use up the doublejumps so the timing is a bit precise...
@dotriv I still wouldn't recommend it because the double jumps immediately start recharging during the bunnyhop, so you could still end up accidentally halting all your momentum 😅
10:46: As a high ELO Ironfist main, my team and I have found that Ironfist actually works very well in situations where you can't dive if you play as a sort of off tank WITH the team. An example of this being to apply pressure on the tanks and force the strategists to heal them while you hold the line with your vanguard, so your long range duelist and even long ranger strategist can take out the backline. If a opening is provided and you can slip away with the frontline fortitude falling apart or you dying, by all means do so but holding the line and finding a way to out last the opposing team works best in our experience. Loved this video. Just wanted to see if there was more I could learn, tyvm!
How would you suggest playing him as an off role tank in domination? Being around the payload makes sense in the others, but trying to frontline in point control with his hp seems unrealistic
@@thatchadbrad No, you're right but usually in those domination games I don't have to hold with the team. In those instances it's almost always best to try to obtain your picks since pressure is almost guaranteed from both sides, so you wanna get high value from kills. The first time to make it a 5 or 4 v 6 depending on how efficient your character is at getting kills wins domination in most instances were ULTs aren't involved. Domination is a flank player wonderland, which is probably why all our ults can be outhealed or cc'd lol so our value as duelists don't go too high.
Pro tip against Loki: if you kill his clones, it triggers the bonus HP from your passive as if you killed a real character. So I like to focus the clones first since they are easier to kill, and then chase anyone close by since I’ll have 100 hp bonus for a short time as I fight them. And if you want to add an extra spice to it -> you can ult after killing the clones and just become a killing machine vanguard for the whole ult duration. It’s fun
Thank you so very much for this guide! I genuinely appreciate the amount of work and passion you put into it! I really like Iron Fist, I have (or rather used to have) so much fun with him! That being said, I started avoiding playing him as everyone claims that he is absolutely useless in high ranks. Now, I am quite the opposite of a high rank player, yet still I was afraid that I would get attached to a "low skill character". I know, sounds ridiculous. But I decided to focus on "better" heroes, mostly Panther. However, seeing that you made it so far on a competitive ladder encouraged me to pick up Iron Fist again. You have once again proven that good skill, gamesense and dedication can make any character work. And for that I am grateful! My only problem right now is that I don't know how to use his Kick. Actually, it's more of a "when" thing. I have a habit of holding on to it and only using it as a disengage tool. But in your clips you seem to be a lot more comfortable using it aggressively and you stay alive. But I suppose it is a matter of experience. Anyway, I am looking forward to seeing more of your Iron Fist videos! Again, thank you kindly for this guide, for sharing your tips and strats! You are amazing
Thanks for the encouragement! So the big thing about kick is that you kind of need to use it aggressively if you want to get any kills at all (otherwise you give the enemies too much time to respond), so i try to set up in a way that after the kick i know theres a corner or team to hide behind
Most people do not know but when you are in the ultimate state if you block towards the end of your ultimate when you leave the ultimate you're going to stay in your regular empowered form but you're going to keep the short cool down. It's a free way to get an additional empowered form and finish up any kills that you haven't been able to finish up with the ult
Minor correction about your matchup re:Punisher. You actually destroy Punishers on their turret unless they're getting hard-saved by healers or bubbles. The trick is to jump around. He's effectively a stationary target and he simply cannot move his screen around to aim at you fast enough, the only play is to leave turret or die. Hit him, jump over his head when he turns to aim at you, keep bouncing off his head until he's dead. It goes even faster with the empowered attacks because of the stationary aspect, meaning you never accidentally dash and just unload the damage into him. And an added bonus of attacking him (and others) from this angle is that you win most damage trades because headshots are basically impossible from below you.
I thank you for this, I got to plat in an instant with Iron Fist but I hit a brick wall and only managed to hit Diamond after dropping him, despite loving Iron Fist This will get me to pick him back up again! Thank you!!
DUDE! One of the most informative and well formatted hero guides I have seen yet!! And I’ve seen quite a few across different heroes. Huge thanks and a sub from me🙌
7:58 Small correction, but Rocket can actually heal himself with his healing projectiles if he shoots at his feet or at nearby terrain, which, combined with his mobility from his jetpack, makes chasing down a competent Rocket player before they reach their team difficult at times since they can health stall. This is where using Iron Fist's kick ability after weakening Rocket with some basic attacks can help finish off a kill, since the sudden burst damage can overtake their rate of healing.
Loved the vid and how in-depth you went, you explain all the facets of Iron Fist super well and succinct. only note would be to have some music in the background at a low enough volume not to distract from what you're saying but its there to supplement the audio and fill in those moments where you aren't speaking.
I really appreciate this I’ve been maining iron fist just haven’t hit lord yet cuz I wasn’t able to play for a bit but now that I’m back to it I’m on captain for now and this helped me learn what I’ve been doing wrong
Mantis sleep is actually very reactble! You need to watch her hands as she slides a purple thingy onto the floor, and that thing will put you to sleep in half a second. It has a very weird tell but its blockble
When i play iron fist, i love teaming up with a Hulk. You stay up high and wait for him to jump on a target. Then you join your Hulk and just MELT what ever hes hitting
Thanks for this, we need an Iron Fist Discord for like-minded individuals. Also, I found some (seemingly?) unknown tech with IF, if you perfectly time a Bhop after doing Dragon Dash, you can transfer your momentum from the Dragon Dash into your Bhop & literally go FLYING, I’ll upload a video of this on my channel, & by the time you read this it’s probably there. The tech can be extremely useful in certain situations, it could give you just the momentum you need to slip out without getting owned. I’ve had plenty of examples where if I didn’t Bhop I would’ve been toast or at a significant disadvantage, like today I used it to get away from a Spider-Man who was ON ME which gave me enough time to recharge my Parry which won me the encounter.
Bro thanks for the guide, i needed learn a new playstyle in high rank. When the enemy adopt the turtle formation i can't do nothing going backline so the tank style sounds pretty amazing.
I used to play him in beta where nobody knew how to play against him and he was op he quickly became one of the most useless characters in game after everybody figued out how to play into him and peel for each other. This video makes me want to try him again. Hes so cool i dont want him to be L tier forever. Thanks for sharing amazing well made guide!
I was always wondering why everyone's block last so long 😂 I thought you have to time your first parry like in fighting games then it goes on. I perform significantly better now after knowing this.
You can dodge and get out of town so fast with triple+ jumps. Especially since you can change directon in the air making you unpredcitable. I don't get why people say you have to save "kick" to get away. Sure it's faster if you really gotta dip fast. I'm so used to kicking in to kill a support or hela/hakwaye faster. Kick in, predict the parry, finish off, jump away. Iron Fist and Peni are my favorites so far!
its situational really. you gotta decide the best for the situation. i do both. there are situations where i know i cant kill anything so i drop from high and get out with kick. there are situations im confident i can kill the target if i do it fast so i use the kick either as a finisher or disrupter/gap closer. enjoying ironfist and wolverine so much. this game is fun.
Things to note from my experience. 1. During the attack you get after a block if you click and not hold it will do dash and a bunch of punches so you don’t keep dashing. 2. Your ult will most likely get you killed. This character is best at taking ones or finding someone out of place. Once you pop ult the whole enemy team will look at you and punish you for this play style. Only pop if u can get a kill with it for shield and if healers are near by.
As in what your job is in the game the best advice I gave myself was 2 simple mindset changes: 1. Be a stat farmer 2. Pretend enemy squishes emotional damage is a stat.
So for his normal attacks, not really! (although i prefer holding it) As for his empowered attacks, if you spam click it then even when you are in melee range youll still keep dashing, while holding it will allow you to stop dashing (which gives you a lot more dps)
I am new to this genre never played overwatch or anything but i have melee bias and i use iron fist just cause i feel like a menace and i just learnt if i play a dps i have to basicall assasinate enemy healers 😂 now i understand roles lol
23:20 I hate when the game just launches you to different position for no reason. I die half the time when it happens cause my brain short circuits cause im so confuse when it happens
I was comfortably killing the whole team. Until I dived their Natasha Romanov , she was alone sniping. Looking at me she change to melee and beat the shit out of me. I love playing iron fist too. I do all the things . But I use the block ability more offensively and have very little overshield from it. Just one question . When in my ultimate do I stop hitting when I use the defensive ability ???
Yup! rapidfire mode loses a lot of dps when you repeatedly have to use its dash, and even if you walk straight at jeff he'll be too fast and you will keep being forced to use your dash, making you deal less damage than if you were to not use rapidfire mode. Same reason its actually better to use non rapidfire vs flyers
how do you all even get to kill people? Whenever I enter fight it's always I get one tapped. I can't even do anything lol. I am dreaming to actually become good with him cuz he is one of my fav characters
im actually curious. couldnt a good RR actually beat out ironn fist in a 1 v 1? if hes landing enough headshots i believe he has the theoretical highest strategist damage
5:25 you can also add in a bunnyhop (or several if you're good enough) to maintain the momentum of the kick for faster rollouts from spawn. It's minimal but it has allowed me to barely touch on overtime when I wouldn't have otherwise.
Sadly you can't just bind scrollwheel to jump since it'll use up the doublejumps so the timing is a bit precise...
Good catch! you can still use scrollwheel, just make sure to use up all doublejumps before using the kick, makes it a lot easier to bhop in general.
@dotriv I still wouldn't recommend it because the double jumps immediately start recharging during the bunnyhop, so you could still end up accidentally halting all your momentum 😅
Now instead of going 1-67 on iron fist I can go 2-66, thanks riv
You and me brother
Nah man, its 3-133. I'm still working on that first win thou, so you're like twice as good as me
10:46: As a high ELO Ironfist main, my team and I have found that Ironfist actually works very well in situations where you can't dive if you play as a sort of off tank WITH the team. An example of this being to apply pressure on the tanks and force the strategists to heal them while you hold the line with your vanguard, so your long range duelist and even long ranger strategist can take out the backline. If a opening is provided and you can slip away with the frontline fortitude falling apart or you dying, by all means do so but holding the line and finding a way to out last the opposing team works best in our experience.
Loved this video. Just wanted to see if there was more I could learn, tyvm!
How would you suggest playing him as an off role tank in domination? Being around the payload makes sense in the others, but trying to frontline in point control with his hp seems unrealistic
@@thatchadbrad No, you're right but usually in those domination games I don't have to hold with the team. In those instances it's almost always best to try to obtain your picks since pressure is almost guaranteed from both sides, so you wanna get high value from kills. The first time to make it a 5 or 4 v 6 depending on how efficient your character is at getting kills wins domination in most instances were ULTs aren't involved. Domination is a flank player wonderland, which is probably why all our ults can be outhealed or cc'd lol so our value as duelists don't go too high.
what elo?
@@repositmarcus GM II
That spiderman was fleeing for his life in that first clip.
Pro tip against Loki: if you kill his clones, it triggers the bonus HP from your passive as if you killed a real character.
So I like to focus the clones first since they are easier to kill, and then chase anyone close by since I’ll have 100 hp bonus for a short time as I fight them. And if you want to add an extra spice to it -> you can ult after killing the clones and just become a killing machine vanguard for the whole ult duration. It’s fun
i love how new games paves way to new content creators and helping them to make their own career!
As a lord on Iron fist with 19 hours this is an amazing video and taught me some things I will definitely apply
The opening Spidy chase down was so damn cathartic... You're doin the lords work lmao
Thank you so very much for this guide! I genuinely appreciate the amount of work and passion you put into it!
I really like Iron Fist, I have (or rather used to have) so much fun with him! That being said, I started avoiding playing him as everyone claims that he is absolutely useless in high ranks. Now, I am quite the opposite of a high rank player, yet still I was afraid that I would get attached to a "low skill character". I know, sounds ridiculous. But I decided to focus on "better" heroes, mostly Panther.
However, seeing that you made it so far on a competitive ladder encouraged me to pick up Iron Fist again. You have once again proven that good skill, gamesense and dedication can make any character work. And for that I am grateful!
My only problem right now is that I don't know how to use his Kick. Actually, it's more of a "when" thing. I have a habit of holding on to it and only using it as a disengage tool. But in your clips you seem to be a lot more comfortable using it aggressively and you stay alive. But I suppose it is a matter of experience. Anyway, I am looking forward to seeing more of your Iron Fist videos!
Again, thank you kindly for this guide, for sharing your tips and strats! You are amazing
Thanks for the encouragement! So the big thing about kick is that you kind of need to use it aggressively if you want to get any kills at all (otherwise you give the enemies too much time to respond), so i try to set up in a way that after the kick i know theres a corner or team to hide behind
Most people do not know but when you are in the ultimate state if you block towards the end of your ultimate when you leave the ultimate you're going to stay in your regular empowered form but you're going to keep the short cool down. It's a free way to get an additional empowered form and finish up any kills that you haven't been able to finish up with the ult
Minor correction about your matchup re:Punisher.
You actually destroy Punishers on their turret unless they're getting hard-saved by healers or bubbles. The trick is to jump around. He's effectively a stationary target and he simply cannot move his screen around to aim at you fast enough, the only play is to leave turret or die. Hit him, jump over his head when he turns to aim at you, keep bouncing off his head until he's dead. It goes even faster with the empowered attacks because of the stationary aspect, meaning you never accidentally dash and just unload the damage into him. And an added bonus of attacking him (and others) from this angle is that you win most damage trades because headshots are basically impossible from below you.
I’m so high that iron fist in the thumbnail looks like an angry businessman bc the ranked symbol lines up perfectly
I'm glad that Iron Fist isn't a complete meme pick at higher ranks. He's who I started playing first, along with Spiderman. Thank you for the tips!
I thank you for this, I got to plat in an instant with Iron Fist but I hit a brick wall and only managed to hit Diamond after dropping him, despite loving Iron Fist
This will get me to pick him back up again! Thank you!!
DUDE! One of the most informative and well formatted hero guides I have seen yet!! And I’ve seen quite a few across different heroes. Huge thanks and a sub from me🙌
Acually good guide that gives tips etc instead of just reading the abilities
7:58 Small correction, but Rocket can actually heal himself with his healing projectiles if he shoots at his feet or at nearby terrain, which, combined with his mobility from his jetpack, makes chasing down a competent Rocket player before they reach their team difficult at times since they can health stall.
This is where using Iron Fist's kick ability after weakening Rocket with some basic attacks can help finish off a kill, since the sudden burst damage can overtake their rate of healing.
Loved the vid and how in-depth you went, you explain all the facets of Iron Fist super well and succinct. only note would be to have some music in the background at a low enough volume not to distract from what you're saying but its there to supplement the audio and fill in those moments where you aren't speaking.
I really appreciate this I’ve been maining iron fist just haven’t hit lord yet cuz I wasn’t able to play for a bit but now that I’m back to it I’m on captain for now and this helped me learn what I’ve been doing wrong
I didn't even notice that you are a new creator! Keep up the quality!
Nice vid and tips! Felt like I was watching a much bigger channel, keep up the good work!
Mantis sleep is actually very reactble! You need to watch her hands as she slides a purple thingy onto the floor, and that thing will put you to sleep in half a second. It has a very weird tell but its blockble
When i play iron fist, i love teaming up with a Hulk. You stay up high and wait for him to jump on a target. Then you join your Hulk and just MELT what ever hes hitting
this is true
The fact that Iron First can jump up and literally K.O. a flying Iron Man is just so absurd and I fxcking love that.
Thanks for this, we need an Iron Fist Discord for like-minded individuals.
Also, I found some (seemingly?) unknown tech with IF, if you perfectly time a Bhop after doing Dragon Dash, you can transfer your momentum from the Dragon Dash into your Bhop & literally go FLYING, I’ll upload a video of this on my channel, & by the time you read this it’s probably there.
The tech can be extremely useful in certain situations, it could give you just the momentum you need to slip out without getting owned.
I’ve had plenty of examples where if I didn’t Bhop I would’ve been toast or at a significant disadvantage, like today I used it to get away from a Spider-Man who was ON ME which gave me enough time to recharge my Parry which won me the encounter.
Bro thanks for the guide, i needed learn a new playstyle in high rank. When the enemy adopt the turtle formation i can't do nothing going backline so the tank style sounds pretty amazing.
I used to play him in beta where nobody knew how to play against him and he was op he quickly became one of the most useless characters in game after everybody figued out how to play into him and peel for each other. This video makes me want to try him again. Hes so cool i dont want him to be L tier forever. Thanks for sharing amazing well made guide!
lol every character can become useless if not used correctly that the beauty of marvels rivals
Great Video, made my unleash the dragon within myself and become the Iron Fist Above All
No one ever mentions you have to hold that block and it can only be held for the first second, that's so misleading
I was always wondering why everyone's block last so long 😂 I thought you have to time your first parry like in fighting games then it goes on. I perform significantly better now after knowing this.
@@HaNgan-oo5iv Yeah for real bro, people make it sounds like a timed parry.
Bedankt voor de video! Tijd om mensen in goud te pesten.
You can dodge and get out of town so fast with triple+ jumps. Especially since you can change directon in the air making you unpredcitable. I don't get why people say you have to save "kick" to get away. Sure it's faster if you really gotta dip fast. I'm so used to kicking in to kill a support or hela/hakwaye faster. Kick in, predict the parry, finish off, jump away. Iron Fist and Peni are my favorites so far!
its situational really. you gotta decide the best for the situation. i do both. there are situations where i know i cant kill anything so i drop from high and get out with kick. there are situations im confident i can kill the target if i do it fast so i use the kick either as a finisher or disrupter/gap closer. enjoying ironfist and wolverine so much. this game is fun.
im halfwy in and this is so helpful so far. my issue was thinking im invincible running in alone while my team isnt distracting them and dying
Thanks as a support main its good to know how ones enemy works lol
Heyyyy im an Iron fist Main and this Video helped my A lot thank you and keep up😉
Things to note from my experience.
1. During the attack you get after a block if you click and not hold it will do dash and a bunch of punches so you don’t keep dashing.
2. Your ult will most likely get you killed. This character is best at taking ones or finding someone out of place. Once you pop ult the whole enemy team will look at you and punish you for this play style. Only pop if u can get a kill with it for shield and if healers are near by.
Gotta love how a non-projectile character can bring close quarter fights to flying characters with projectile.
This is a great guide W
The goat has emerged from his shadowy throne to enlighten the masses
I bow down to my platinum slingshot goat
amazing video thanks!
Ay I watched this vid… and the very next game I get 16 kills and mvp thank you bro
Thats my favourite Doomfist main!
This is a really good guide! I think I might have to become an Iron Fist main now...
as a psylocke and iron fist main i need this
His range is extended if you are in the air as well, not just after block
best iron fist guide ive ever watched p2 tank player btw
Very good guide. Thank you
Thank god the devs didn't listen to the nerf Iron FIst camp when the game got released
very detailed explanation..! thx
Gj bro keep it up
But can I play him like cap?
Great vid, man.
if anyone wants to know the namor matchup is at 16:50 :D enjoy trying to play into fishman
For the aiming to the right stuff for melee characters I just disable the crosshair and use the body to aim
20:09 I’ve managed to parry the two shots and just go in with the attack flurry, works almost all the time
Love the pfp! Do you have one for Hulk by any chance?
Nope, sorry! got a friend to make it for me
As in what your job is in the game the best advice I gave myself was 2 simple mindset changes: 1. Be a stat farmer 2. Pretend enemy squishes emotional damage is a stat.
Farming solely damage can be counter intuitive but I understand what you mean
Great vid. I'll try iron fist out. I'm a spider man main
I appreciate this video, ngl I thought I was forced to only go up when running on walls.
As a Doomfist main, I always got a movement cool down for the escape. Same applies for iron fist
great vid! yuu didnt cover ironfist v ironfist though
just a skill matchup, whoever is better wins
good video but i dont play iron fist, any tips on how to play thor?
i think u ask strydeOW to play hela for u and then u go to their spawn
There’s one tip I don’t see anyone talk about and you were wrong about after his dash if you time his jump just right you bhop and carry momentum
Thanks for the vid! Can’t wait for his nerf
Bro has no play time on any other class but duelist 0:19
Actually enjoyable and good tips for iron fist. Bout hit gmmm
What is they have a jeff,mantis,thor,hulk,peni,namor
All Iron fist main hail the messiah, who shall take us to the promised land (high elo lobbies)
I think you forgot Cloak & Dagger in the strategist portion.
Oh no. Please don't let this blow up 💀💀💀💀💀💀
Staying on target is the hardest thing about him for me
Iron fist mains, gather here
What are you setting if you mind me asking for iron fist
i just uploaded a vid all about it!
I’m cracking up at this guy explaining his playing mindset while on screen he is bullying the poor punisher and iron man in spawn
Was getting called a shitty iron first when I was in silver until I saw this video now I’m platinum and I’m not even joking
Love Peni on defense. Not so much on offense she still can work but not near as easy
I didn’t hear a matchup with winter soldier? Did I miss it?
Hey, do you hold M1 to attack or spam M1? and does it make a difference?
So for his normal attacks, not really! (although i prefer holding it)
As for his empowered attacks, if you spam click it then even when you are in melee range youll still keep dashing, while holding it will allow you to stop dashing (which gives you a lot more dps)
I am new to this genre never played overwatch or anything but i have melee bias and i use iron fist just cause i feel like a menace and i just learnt if i play a dps i have to basicall assasinate enemy healers 😂 now i understand roles lol
Yes! As dps main rule is to not aim tank first. Especially if you are really mobile, target support or other dps
23:20 I hate when the game just launches you to different position for no reason. I die half the time when it happens cause my brain short circuits cause im so confuse when it happens
I was comfortably killing the whole team. Until I dived their Natasha Romanov , she was alone sniping. Looking at me she change to melee and beat the shit out of me. I love playing iron fist too. I do all the things . But I use the block ability more offensively and have very little overshield from it. Just one question . When in my ultimate do I stop hitting when I use the defensive ability ???
i really cant figure out how to block
Trying to dive a storm after the new update is torture. She just one shots me before i can do anything
You gotta get her after she uses her damage buffs move. It helps to follow up when she's takes some damage too
Ironfistmafia confirmed.
Have you tried removing the crosshair on Iron Fist?
Is this character movement also affected by fps rate ?
7:59 Also the Jeff main that keeps running/spamming bubble
00:30 dang bro lay off the adderal
22:18 What? I kill him fin mode all the time as long as you have the rapid fire. Do they do something else above gold?
Yup! rapidfire mode loses a lot of dps when you repeatedly have to use its dash, and even if you walk straight at jeff he'll be too fast and you will keep being forced to use your dash, making you deal less damage than if you were to not use rapidfire mode. Same reason its actually better to use non rapidfire vs flyers
Doing fucking god's work holy shit
I am here because I have been deleted by SO MANY Iron First players. I need to learn a counter.... and now I think I want to main him, lol.
Namor, psylocke, Loki are pretty good
W video
Why is every melee character except magik so ability heavy and op
When I go into combat with him I get ganked in seconds
You don’t go in like a head loss chicken
how do you all even get to kill people? Whenever I enter fight it's always I get one tapped. I can't even do anything lol. I am dreaming to actually become good with him cuz he is one of my fav characters
what does CC mean?
Crowd Control! it means anything that makes someone unable to do something (move, shoot, use abilities, etc)
@ preciate that and nice video too
im actually curious. couldnt a good RR actually beat out ironn fist in a 1 v 1? if hes landing enough headshots i believe he has the theoretical highest strategist damage
So after watching this video and thinking about my past gameplay, I've come to the conclusion that it's just a skill issue
Bro make more videos on Marvel Rivals games it's popping high....
Fight me Riv! xD
Next Peni! Please?