I think it would’ve made sense for the spinosaurus to do that considering the fact that it’s supposedly the main villain of the movie and to basically reveal that it was the cause of the whole plot. So basically, I kind of agree with you on this one #Hewylewis
Hopefully we’re done with the hybrid thing and go old school in having certain dinosaurs be the villains again. We hadn’t had a good JP villain since the Big One
@@CryptidRenfri Meh it was alright i would have just wanted to see or hear the reason why this Dino risks his life multiple times just for some humans. That's what i mean that is not animal behavior it is monster behavior. At least with raptors it feels natural why they are following Grant and Co.
@@zombiekillaps3396 there's many possible reasons. First of all we know the Spino was a hybrid more so along the lines of indominus, and secondly, it probably (most likely) spent a good amount of time in a lab or pen being experimented and fucked with by ingen before site b was abandoned. It could be intelligent enough to develop and hold onto a memory and hatred of humans in general. We do see similar behaviours in some animals today. Also humans smell really weird to most animals, and it was probably pretty easy for the Spino to smell the people if they were within close enough proximity (possibly miles away with the right wind and air conditions) and keep them fresh on its mind. Honestly I really don't see its behaviour as unnatural. Just very, very vindictive. And like I said, there's plenty of examples of modern animals deciding that they don't like a group or one person in particular and hunting them down over a long period of time that defies natural opportunistic hunting strategy and "normal" animal behaviour. Especially among more intelligent or predatory animals.
@@zombiekillaps3396 I'm pretty sure there was a podcast or interview where the director wanted to show the mercenary guy (the 3rd one who gets eaten before the plane clips the spino) shoots a baby spino, which the mother (this spino) sees it and then proceeds to hunt everyone down. If you want, I could probably search around for it again but yeah, it's cause the mercenaries were jumped by a baby spino and then they killed it and pissed off mum.
I imagine a scenario where a poacher is hunting for sharks and manages to get one but it is suddenly grabbed by a large creature and it pulls the boat the man is on resulting in the man to cut the line in order to save him from whatever pulled the boat. Then half of the shark would float up to the surface and the man would be confused on what happened to the shark and what pulled him. He would think it could be a killer whale but is unsure of that possibility but what he does know is that he should probably get out of there and he does before the scene cuts to the shark body before getting consumed by a mosasaur… I was bored lol
That’s what the comment section is for my bro 👍🏿. Loved this comment by the way. I could see a Jaws like situation at first until the real big bad shows up.
@@auston781its gotta be the spino dnt u think if it was a flying creature they would've saw it in the paraglider thingy. Had 2 go back underwater what I always thought that was a awesome movie in theaters I tell ya 12 or 13 yr old me was blown away
That's an interesting theory. It would've been great to see the Kronosaurus in some way in JP3, as well as some confirmation on what did kill the people on the boat. On a side note, I don't recall hearing about Carnotaurus being planned for the film either.
The way the boat looks after emerging from the fog always reminded me of the Jurassic Park Ride at Universal when you pass another boat attacked by Dilo's. I always just assumed it was semi implied raptors jumped on the boat but it was a "don't think about it" moment, much like the Velociraptor loading scene at the beginning of JP1 and the gatekeeper getting dragged up and down and pulled in ridiculously.
A Mysterious Prehistoric Monster in Jurassic Park III, interesting and pretty nice video Klayton and it seems to be a mystery and very suspicious when it comes to this prehistoric monster in the franchise. Awesome work and as always, Take It Easy and Life Finds A Way.
Tbh even as a kid I always thought that some kind of aquatic plesiosaur or ichthyosaur or mosasaur or prehistoric marine predator killed the crew in the boat In the fog not pteranodons or spino or even the ceratosaur. That never crossed my mind really only prehistoric marine creature patrolling the waters of isla sorna. Huh….I guess even as a kid I was smart with no idea that this was in an early drafted scene in the jp3 script. Like legit I never knew this was an original early script idea until Right now this very second. I always thought this was canonical since in Jurassic world we see the mosasaur. Cuz remember billy said in the film that the spino wasn’t even on ingens Dino list and dr. Grant wondered what other Dino’s or prehistoric creatures they didn’t mention in the Dino list.
Showing LOVE for my absolute FAVORITE channel period thank you for another great video once again Klayton you've helped me understand the Jurassic Park Franchise better in the past several years with your videos point blank thank you my friend and ill always support your channel. Thanks again and have a blessed day everyone
We need a Site-B project that answers all the questions that JP3 made because of its troubled production. all these years I always wanted something that explained stuff like the how the men died on the boat ,what’s in the tanks at the lab, how was the spinosaurus made, was the spinosaurus a hybrid, why do the dinosaurs look different, where did the pteranodons go after the movie, was the T-Rex in JP3 the infant? I’ll also want a confirmation on if JP: The Game by Telltale is canon. I heard it’s a soft canon, but I want a confirmation if it’s FULLY canon. That game raised as many questions as JP3 did
@@hamraz4356 That one was answered in the spinoff book. He got hurt bad during the landing, he then told Eric to go on ahead while he got himself down and he'd catch up later, but they both knew that was a lie and he wasn't gonna live that long.
I think we should give JP a break and make a reboot more heavily focused on the Crichton material and various unused ideas (like a Kronosaur). Could be a TV series about the making of the park, the fall of the park, and the aftermath. Christo vivo Rey!
I've been screaming for the exact same thing! They should do a four-part mini series based on the two novels and call it "Michael Crichton's Jurassic Park"!
Whatever killed Enrique Cardoso and the dude in the orange t-shirt It could've been any prehistoric monster cuz we know either the Spinosaurus or a Pteranodon did it but yea im thinking any prehistoric animal did it
I remember one of the scrapped ideas towards the end of Jurassic Park 3 was the Pterosaurs scene of attacking the helicopters and the Spinosaurus attacking the military compound on the shore. One of the boats went after the Spinosaurus and the unit ended up destroyed (I think that's where the unpublished Zia Rodrigue paper was inspired by). A Kronosaur scene would have been perfect there as an ambush. Given the script details and the big mysteries from the film, Jurassic Park 3 will be the closest to the original movie in terms of returning to its roots. That's why I consider it my 2nd favorite.
I don't think that Kronosaurus works there, if it was the one responsible, there would have been more damage to the boat itself...and the Spinosaurus has the same kind of issue combined with a question of where the hell it could strike from since the boat continued in a straight line so snagging someone off the boat would have caused a lot more visible damage to the boat. Pteranodons could do it, but there's not enough time and space for the larger TLW variant and the JP3 ones were locked up. My theory would be a plesiosaur/elasmosaur type animal that could snatch them up without smashing up more of the hull of the boat.
Just wanted to share that my phones ringtone for texts is the scene of Ben yelling "Nooo not yet!" and always gets a laugh. Sometimes it answers someone's question!
Do you remember your older videos of 'InGen's list' and 'History of dinosaurs in the Jurassic Park franchise'? Any chance you would consider picking up on those again?
I remember watching Jp 3 for the first time on netflix, i could've sworn there was a scene with one aquatic reptillian swimming and never showed again after the beginning
Jurassic Park/World movies that focus on particular biomes (land, sea or air) would be pretty cool. A Jurassic Park movie set at sea could be somewhere between Jaws and the movie Piranhas - where creatures escape from a research facility and begin killing people in the surrounding area, then experts are brought in to identify who or what is involved.
The only issue I see with a Kronosaur attacking the boat at the beginning of JP3 is that the boat was still there and not bitten in half, or missing a massive chunk out of its side or just completely exploded into floating splinters. I mean IF a Kronosaurus were to have attacked a boat that small, there probably wouldn't have been a boat still running. A theory I always liked was that there may have been either some Baryonyx or Suchomimus lurking in that mist, or maybe another Pterosaur that wasn't on the list either? Also with the DPG website stating that Masrani and Wu had resumed operations on the Site B lab between TLW and JP3, for the "Amalgam Test" and cloning new variants and species on their "list" that InGen likely had in their DNA "vaults", along with species that they probably never identified or got around to sequencing and growing before, who knows how many species were actually roaming about Sorna or the other Las Cinco Muertas islands by the events of JP3? There could literally have been anything in that mist? Maybe they did an overly aggressive variant of long necked Plesiosaur that could dart from the water and pluck the crew from the boat without destroying it in the process?
words cannot describe how move i love the mystique JP had in the very late 90s/early 2000s. stuff like Jurassic Park 4, trespasser and even cut things like the Kronosaurus or the original JP3 Baryonyx. i remember back from probably 2009 there was a fanmade JP IV trailer that began with "the death of a man" and one of the things shown was this sort of Scorpius Rex hybrid, and thats not even mentioning other cut stuff like the human-dinosaur hybrid concept art.
Nah dude. The boat wouldve been WAY more wrecked but the people got picked off the boat with the boat reletively unharmed. JP2 Pterosaurs makes WAY more sense.
I always thought it was obviously spino. It’s the aquatic mega predator. The attack was fast and the marks and sounds fit spino. Also it’s the title Dino so it’s surely is spino.
I saw this movie in theatres when I was 4 years old with my dad. First time seeing a JP movie in theatres, obviously, and I loved it. I watched it all the time, and I still love it to this day. I admit it has plenty of faults, but the scenes with the Spino and the aviary are some of the best in the series, in my opinion. It will always hold a special place in my heart. Even if most JP fans don't like it, they definitely can't say it's the worst JP movie anymore😂
That’s crazy that they had that in the script and then threw it out!! I think that the idea could have been used very well and would have been cool to see. When I first watched Jurassic Park 3 for the first time, I was a huge Dino nerd so of course I was thinking something aquatic like tylosaurus or elasmosaurus or even the Spino. They definitely need to make like a Jurassic Park live action show and use bits and pieces of unused script to make it, the amount of things they can execute would be crazy!! God Bless you Klayton 🙏😁
To me it always made sense that it was the Pteranodons from TLW. Same island. Yes it’s a different section of the island but I don’t think it’s impossible for them to fly just to the side where the beginning of jp3 was. That’s just imo tho. Great vid as always brotha
Personally I'd love to see the Kronosaur and Mosasaur in the next movie. Honestly I just want a scene straight out of Jaws in the next JP movie. Like the way the Tylosaur killed the scientist in JP, the Game
I remember reading as a kid a Lego magazine issue that came in the mail featuring JP3 kits before the film came out and it showed a Kronosaurus set (or some other pliosaur of some kind) and that led me to believe that was going to be in the film, and for a very long time I just figured it was the Kronosaurus that attacked the boat at the start of the film under the cloud cover and it just remained in the vicinity of Isla Sorna as its home territory. And considering the complete lack of any other explanation besides the Spinosaurus, i figured I might as well keep that as my head-canon.
Hey man, I haven't watched your channel in years. I'm having a Jurassic Park kick lately and rewatched/first timed (if thats a word) some of your videos and I'm so happy to be back! Your channel helped me a lot through some shitty times so thank you for that!
Great video I would say that it was the spinosaurus that killed the men on the boat as for the cut kronosaurus I think it could be used for something in a future movie.
Honestly i would have love to see JP have a dunkleosteus, helicorpion,plesiosaurus,tylosaurus or even a kronosarurus like you mentioned, but JP sounds like a place where there are abandoned marine enclosures waiting to be discovered
Great information, Klayton! I didn't know about the movie Loch Ness and I always wanted to watch something on that topic, but I didn't know any. Now I'm going to watch it. Regarding the attack, I think it could have been either pterosaurs or something from the sea...
I used to think that it was the spinosaurus but now I believe it was the pterosaurs. I think this for a several reasons: 1. We already see some other variants out on the island in the second film. My thought is they were all supposed to be in The Birdcage originally but perhaps there was some smaller hole or holes off screen that smaller species or even juveniles could squeeze out of. 2. We see that the canvas covering the boat is torn and slashed. That to me does not make sense for a marine creature. Yes it's possible but it seems more indicative of an aerial attack. 3. In The Birdcage we see the nest and human bones, possibly from the remains of the boat crew. How did they get there unless they were carried there by some juvenile or other avian species? 4. Amanda Kirby failing to properly secure the latch on the door does not mean that was the only way out of The Birdcage. Remember the whole place was falling apart. It just means that the the larger specimens can now leave. It's kind of the same phenomenon as the sheer drop at the T-Rex Paddock. Just because it happened off screen doesn't mean it can't happen. 5. It could be yet a third group of pterosaurs that we don't see on screen. Ben and Eric do not get to see what happened because of the cloud cover but we are given a clue. The boat runs aground on some jagged outcroppings. We know from the third film and Jurassic World that these pterosaurs can swim to some degree. So it's possible the reason we don't see them is because they came up from fishing underneath. Perhaps the rocky outcropping provided them with a vantage point to fish and rest. The biggest question however is did they come from The Birdcage or are they another group totally independent.
Snoopy’s Racing Railway is a fun ride! Capacity is a bit of an issue, but with the kids-only policy, it seems to work. But it’s awesome to see the park invest more in families. I think Carowinds has an exciting future ahead of it!
I want the velociraptors in the new jurassic park movie to look scientifically accurate and the dilophosaurus not to spit poison because in reality it didn't
Kronosaurus has been my favorite aquatic reptile since I read Raptor Red. Your idea of it attacking the marines at the end of jp3 could have been really amazing if the ending was reworked a bit. Maybe reminiscent of Jaws?
I thought it was the pterodactyls to be totally honest. I don't think too hard when I watch movies so it never clicked they were locked up. The human skull in the nest pointed to that thread so I accepted it. I've really been enjoying how fans speculate and shore up plot holes. I would have loved to see a plesiosaur with the implication it plucked those dudes out of a boat the way people pick an orange.
I could go any way with it, the mystery kind of works for me. JP3 was not my favorite but it had some good elements to it. Also, Amen to your closing comments 🙏 Thank you for sharing the great content!
My personal favorites that I would love to see in this saga are Dunkleosteus, Nautiloide Othoceras, Titanoboa, and above all... my beloved Sarcosuchus Imperator (Or Deinosuchus, any of the two would suit me). I'm already really happy that we saw a Terizinosaurus in JW 3 because he's also in my favorites
I know they never did find out what kind of creature that was that attacked the people on the boat. In my opinion it could have been the Loch Ness Monster or some other prehistoric creature we didn't see. It obviously wasn't a Megalodon or else it would rip the boat and eat them like sushi. If that was deleted scene they should put it back on DVD someday. Oh and by the way Klayton you the man.😊
Wow i didn't know that when I was little but thanks for telling us that if that dinosaur was Canon i would be a good theory about so thanks for sharing it klayton your my favorite UA-camr ever ❤️☺️
Wasn't deinosuchus also cut from one of the movies? One of the unseen JW paddocks I think. That was my first thought. Not sure about their prehistoric cousins but saltwater crocs have been known to hang around shores. It probably would in order to avoid competing with the spino.
One thing that I always wondered about in JP3 was the human remains INSIDE the aviary. In the scene Eric Kirby gets carried off by an adult Pteranodon, and is dropped into the nest. He picks up a human skull and throws it at the juvenile Pteranodon's. Where did those bones come from?
The JP3 movie was originally supposed to mainly concern the Pterasaurs and some other smaller escaped species. The Pterosaurs were 100% what killed them. Its been confirmed in multiple interviews. Then they completely changed the movie mid shooting and recast the actors in new parts. It was supposed to be a mystery thriller but egos basically ruined the entire project from the ground up. The fact that its atleast still the third best movie is a miracle lol
I always assumed it was the spino, kinda meant to be ome of those things that when you see the spino swimming later, you go "oh so THAT'S what happened to the guys on the boat" but I've always had issues with that, thinking wouldn't the spino just take down the boat? How did it get them off without flipping the boat or sinking it entirely? Did it swipe them off as the boat went by or something? I feel like there's holes anyway you theorize it. Also, it always felt like the way it played out, something got onto the boat, killed them, and then left, idk what that could even be though 😂
It could have been pteradons because the Ingen pterosaurs existed. The JP3 pterosaurs were likely created by Biosyn/Ingen in 1999/2000 timeframe. But I don’t think it was pterodons because they couldn’t realistically have flown into there without being seen. They also would have attacked Eric and Ben first. It would make much more sense.
With the lost world I really wish they would’ve went with Raptors make imagine Ian and Sarah going it still doesn’t explain if the T Rex was in there how the whole crew is dead and then it pans away into the shadows and shows two or maybe three raptors watching them from very far away and then you hear sirens and they look and there’s distant lights flashing and then they runoff into the night and then the rest of the ending goes the way it already is
They should do a stand alone movie. Jurassic World: Mosasaur. And it's just a movie taking place at sea involving the mosasaur and people trying to catch it/kill it. As well as showing the impact the mosasaur has had on the ocean thus far.
I don´t know if that was the right moment to include a marine predator on the size and scale of Kronosaurus, but I´d absolutely love the future addition of a pliosaur, other more conventional plesiosaurs, or even some type of ichthyosaur of all animals. They´ve already included animals such as Nothosaurus in Camp Cretaceous, so unconventional animals that are not within the Dinosauria clade are well on the menu by this point. (TLDR Spielberg please give me the WWD Liopleurodon I beg you)
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i think it would have been quite immersion shattering if it was the pteranodons because every single person watching would say the sane thing "why would they attack the boat and not the people flying"
This is the issue with poor planning. If i remember correctly, they were writing the script while filming. So it had a lot of changes being made. If i was an actor in the film i would have left because that is no way to work 🤣
Well, if you watch the new trailer of jurassic park chaos theory, theres a screen with dinosaur sightings with pings in the pacific ( where we know the mosasaur lives), and in the gulf of mexico. Whos to say those blips couldnt be the kronosaur? Its smaller than a mosasaur so it could have easily slipped by radar and satellites
Some of these nice concepts always get abandoned about as much as the humans/ingen clones being left behind on the island especially the brachiosaurus R.I.P... But nonetheless it would've been nice to see what a early 2000s attack by a marine reptile would've been like fpr JP3 but sadly never got to witness it till 2015 JW with the mosasaurus... Ironic since ever since 2001 to 2015 been busy getting my education and sure enough 3 years later after i graduated highschool in 2012 in my late teens starting my early 20s here comes JW to give context sure we got the walking with dinosaurs 3D movie in 2013 (which again is just basically a reversal of 2011 march of the dinosaurs going from Edmontosaurus to a pachyrhinosaurus perspective... check it out its pretty underrated) and TF age of extinction in 2014 introducing the dinobots in live action form for transformers... All and all i believe the close we can get to a aquatic attack from a marine reptile is something along the lines of animal planets lost tapes with the monster of Monterey certainly alot more better than the bear lake monster episode even having said cryptid act like a crocodile making use of both land and the water and if you seen the episode you know how bad it is also highly recommend checking out smaugtheDM for videos hes done on that series he recently did a roast on the hobbit trilogy for cinemasins and its down right hilarious... Great work on another video man keep up the hard work also hope you're doing ok and life for you is going well god bless you klayton and both your channels. 😎👍
I always thought it was the Spinosaurus that destroyed the boat, adding to the mystery of the animal until it made its grand reveal later on.
Same!
Hewy!? Never thought I’d see you around these parts
Wow. I love your channel.
I think it would’ve made sense for the spinosaurus to do that considering the fact that it’s supposedly the main villain of the movie and to basically reveal that it was the cause of the whole plot. So basically, I kind of agree with you on this one #Hewylewis
Also, can’t wait to see you come back
It’s so crazy how jp3 still has so many unsolved mysteries to this day
I'm so interested in the ingen lore from jp3
Just poor writing.
that’s what happens when a hack director shows up and tosses out the script half-way into pre-production.
*plot holes. A "mystery" has an actual solution. The glaring issues in JP3 would be plot holes. They have no answer.
when i watched this as an kid i always wondered was it the Spino or the pardons
Hopefully we’re done with the hybrid thing and go old school in having certain dinosaurs be the villains again. We hadn’t had a good JP villain since the Big One
Im not a big Fan of that either i just want different dinos doing different things. I don't need a "villain" in the form of an animal essentially.
The Spino was absolutely a great villian in jp3
@@CryptidRenfri Meh it was alright i would have just wanted to see or hear the reason why this Dino risks his life multiple times just for some humans. That's what i mean that is not animal behavior it is monster behavior. At least with raptors it feels natural why they are following Grant and Co.
@@zombiekillaps3396 there's many possible reasons. First of all we know the Spino was a hybrid more so along the lines of indominus, and secondly, it probably (most likely) spent a good amount of time in a lab or pen being experimented and fucked with by ingen before site b was abandoned. It could be intelligent enough to develop and hold onto a memory and hatred of humans in general. We do see similar behaviours in some animals today.
Also humans smell really weird to most animals, and it was probably pretty easy for the Spino to smell the people if they were within close enough proximity (possibly miles away with the right wind and air conditions) and keep them fresh on its mind.
Honestly I really don't see its behaviour as unnatural. Just very, very vindictive. And like I said, there's plenty of examples of modern animals deciding that they don't like a group or one person in particular and hunting them down over a long period of time that defies natural opportunistic hunting strategy and "normal" animal behaviour. Especially among more intelligent or predatory animals.
@@zombiekillaps3396 I'm pretty sure there was a podcast or interview where the director wanted to show the mercenary guy (the 3rd one who gets eaten before the plane clips the spino) shoots a baby spino, which the mother (this spino) sees it and then proceeds to hunt everyone down. If you want, I could probably search around for it again but yeah, it's cause the mercenaries were jumped by a baby spino and then they killed it and pissed off mum.
my head canon was always a plesiosaur because it has the long neck, and just had to stick its neck out to pull them under the water
I thought a tuso
I’ll say it right now. I would love to see Dunkleosteus show up at some point in JP
What if in the new jurassic world movie 🤔
that is some mosquito who bit that.
He was a determined mosquito 🤣
You KNOW a beast like that wouldn’t work. It would be lights out for the entire cast in one swoop!
@@KingRex1993A scene that would be really cool with it would be like in Chased by Sea Monster
I imagine a scenario where a poacher is hunting for sharks and manages to get one but it is suddenly grabbed by a large creature and it pulls the boat the man is on resulting in the man to cut the line in order to save him from whatever pulled the boat. Then half of the shark would float up to the surface and the man would be confused on what happened to the shark and what pulled him. He would think it could be a killer whale but is unsure of that possibility but what he does know is that he should probably get out of there and he does before the scene cuts to the shark body before getting consumed by a mosasaur…
I was bored lol
That’s what the comment section is for my bro 👍🏿. Loved this comment by the way. I could see a Jaws like situation at first until the real big bad shows up.
A Jaws style approach to a dinosaur in a Jurassic Park movie would be criminally *awesome*
The Loch Ness Monster + Jurassic Park now that’s an idea.
Bro there was so much lost potential with jp3, atleast we got the spino on the big screen.
Nice!
I've always wondered what killed the guys in the boat at the beginning of JP///
i always thought spino or somehow the pterodactyls
@@auston781THEY ARE PTERANODONS
Calm down.@@G55544
@@auston781its gotta be the spino dnt u think if it was a flying creature they would've saw it in the paraglider thingy. Had 2 go back underwater what I always thought that was a awesome movie in theaters I tell ya 12 or 13 yr old me was blown away
@@relicdad88 well it was cloudy and they lost sight of the boom for a min but same it came out on my tenth birthday went to it on opening night
I’ve always wanted to see a Plesiosaur in the JP/JW movies.
That's an interesting theory. It would've been great to see the Kronosaurus in some way in JP3, as well as some confirmation on what did kill the people on the boat. On a side note, I don't recall hearing about Carnotaurus being planned for the film either.
It was supposed to be there, but Disney's Dinosaur came out so they changed it
Man, Jurassic Park lll sure had alot of interesting ideas.
Yeah tons
The way the boat looks after emerging from the fog always reminded me of the Jurassic Park Ride at Universal when you pass another boat attacked by Dilo's. I always just assumed it was semi implied raptors jumped on the boat but it was a "don't think about it" moment, much like the Velociraptor loading scene at the beginning of JP1 and the gatekeeper getting dragged up and down and pulled in ridiculously.
A Mysterious Prehistoric Monster in Jurassic Park III, interesting and pretty nice video Klayton and it seems to be a mystery and very suspicious when it comes to this prehistoric monster in the franchise.
Awesome work and as always, Take It Easy and Life Finds A Way.
Yeah a kronosaurus would of been awesome to see in JP3 but I hope we do see this in the upcoming film.
Oh damn, I haven't seen Loch Ness in years, forgot it existed
It’s got a cool monster design!
Tbh even as a kid I always thought that some kind of aquatic plesiosaur or ichthyosaur or mosasaur or prehistoric marine predator killed the crew in the boat In the fog not pteranodons or spino or even the ceratosaur. That never crossed my mind really only prehistoric marine creature patrolling the waters of isla sorna. Huh….I guess even as a kid I was smart with no idea that this was in an early drafted scene in the jp3 script. Like legit I never knew this was an original early script idea until Right now this very second. I always thought this was canonical since in Jurassic world we see the mosasaur. Cuz remember billy said in the film that the spino wasn’t even on ingens Dino list and dr. Grant wondered what other Dino’s or prehistoric creatures they didn’t mention in the Dino list.
Would love to see some more Mosa personality in the future
Showing LOVE for my absolute FAVORITE channel period thank you for another great video once again Klayton you've helped me understand the Jurassic Park Franchise better in the past several years with your videos point blank thank you my friend and ill always support your channel. Thanks again and have a blessed day everyone
ahhhhh here we go another banger 🔥🔥🔥
We need a Site-B project that answers all the questions that JP3 made because of its troubled production. all these years I always wanted something that explained stuff like the how the men died on the boat ,what’s in the tanks at the lab, how was the spinosaurus made, was the spinosaurus a hybrid, why do the dinosaurs look different, where did the pteranodons go after the movie, was the T-Rex in JP3 the infant?
I’ll also want a confirmation on if JP: The Game by Telltale is canon. I heard it’s a soft canon, but I want a confirmation if it’s FULLY canon. That game raised as many questions as JP3 did
Also Ben's death.
@@hamraz4356 That one was answered in the spinoff book. He got hurt bad during the landing, he then told Eric to go on ahead while he got himself down and he'd catch up later, but they both knew that was a lie and he wasn't gonna live that long.
@@pirateraider1708 ok
I’ve always wanted to see an Elasmosaurus or a Liopleurodon in a JP movie
I think we should give JP a break and make a reboot more heavily focused on the Crichton material and various unused ideas (like a Kronosaur). Could be a TV series about the making of the park, the fall of the park, and the aftermath.
Christo vivo Rey!
I've been screaming for the exact same thing! They should do a four-part mini series based on the two novels and call it "Michael Crichton's Jurassic Park"!
@@casesoutherland4175 JP is nothing without Crichton. I think JP3 and onwards makes that obvious.
Kronosauras are a huge part of "the trench" (meg 2) novel
Are the "meg" novels any good?
I enjoyed the movies and got a feeling the books could be interesting
The never gonna give you up but it’s Jurassic park video is criminally underrated
Whatever killed Enrique Cardoso and the dude in the orange t-shirt It could've been any prehistoric monster cuz we know either the Spinosaurus or a Pteranodon did it but yea im thinking any prehistoric animal did it
we making it out of isla sorna🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I remember one of the scrapped ideas towards the end of Jurassic Park 3 was the Pterosaurs scene of attacking the helicopters and the Spinosaurus attacking the military compound on the shore. One of the boats went after the Spinosaurus and the unit ended up destroyed (I think that's where the unpublished Zia Rodrigue paper was inspired by). A Kronosaur scene would have been perfect there as an ambush.
Given the script details and the big mysteries from the film, Jurassic Park 3 will be the closest to the original movie in terms of returning to its roots. That's why I consider it my 2nd favorite.
I don't think that Kronosaurus works there, if it was the one responsible, there would have been more damage to the boat itself...and the Spinosaurus has the same kind of issue combined with a question of where the hell it could strike from since the boat continued in a straight line so snagging someone off the boat would have caused a lot more visible damage to the boat.
Pteranodons could do it, but there's not enough time and space for the larger TLW variant and the JP3 ones were locked up.
My theory would be a plesiosaur/elasmosaur type animal that could snatch them up without smashing up more of the hull of the boat.
I think they should revisit this idea/species for the next "world" movie. It would be very exciting to see them go back to Site B.
Might be cool if they used it in the new JP/JW movie.
Just wanted to share that my phones ringtone for texts is the scene of Ben yelling "Nooo not yet!" and always gets a laugh. Sometimes it answers someone's question!
Do you remember your older videos of 'InGen's list' and 'History of dinosaurs in the Jurassic Park franchise'? Any chance you would consider picking up on those again?
Maybe in a different format sure
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Great! I sure miss those.
I remember watching Jp 3 for the first time on netflix, i could've sworn there was a scene with one aquatic reptillian swimming and never showed again after the beginning
Jurassic Park/World movies that focus on particular biomes (land, sea or air) would be pretty cool. A Jurassic Park movie set at sea could be somewhere between Jaws and the movie Piranhas - where creatures escape from a research facility and begin killing people in the surrounding area, then experts are brought in to identify who or what is involved.
The Meg.
I don’t see the spino being that far out into the ocean ….
This could have been awesome to see in the final cut of Jurassic Park 3
The only issue I see with a Kronosaur attacking the boat at the beginning of JP3 is that the boat was still there and not bitten in half, or missing a massive chunk out of its side or just completely exploded into floating splinters. I mean IF a Kronosaurus were to have attacked a boat that small, there probably wouldn't have been a boat still running. A theory I always liked was that there may have been either some Baryonyx or Suchomimus lurking in that mist, or maybe another Pterosaur that wasn't on the list either?
Also with the DPG website stating that Masrani and Wu had resumed operations on the Site B lab between TLW and JP3, for the "Amalgam Test" and cloning new variants and species on their "list" that InGen likely had in their DNA "vaults", along with species that they probably never identified or got around to sequencing and growing before, who knows how many species were actually roaming about Sorna or the other Las Cinco Muertas islands by the events of JP3? There could literally have been anything in that mist? Maybe they did an overly aggressive variant of long necked Plesiosaur that could dart from the water and pluck the crew from the boat without destroying it in the process?
Maybe is could be Tanystropheus
words cannot describe how move i love the mystique JP had in the very late 90s/early 2000s. stuff like Jurassic Park 4, trespasser and even cut things like the Kronosaurus or the original JP3 Baryonyx. i remember back from probably 2009 there was a fanmade JP IV trailer that began with "the death of a man" and one of the things shown was this sort of Scorpius Rex hybrid, and thats not even mentioning other cut stuff like the human-dinosaur hybrid concept art.
My issue with a Kronosaur being the culprit is why not reveal that in the jurassic world trilogy
Nah dude. The boat wouldve been WAY more wrecked but the people got picked off the boat with the boat reletively unharmed. JP2 Pterosaurs makes WAY more sense.
I always thought it was obviously spino. It’s the aquatic mega predator. The attack was fast and the marks and sounds fit spino. Also it’s the title Dino so it’s surely is spino.
I saw this movie in theatres when I was 4 years old with my dad. First time seeing a JP movie in theatres, obviously, and I loved it. I watched it all the time, and I still love it to this day. I admit it has plenty of faults, but the scenes with the Spino and the aviary are some of the best in the series, in my opinion. It will always hold a special place in my heart. Even if most JP fans don't like it, they definitely can't say it's the worst JP movie anymore😂
That’s crazy that they had that in the script and then threw it out!! I think that the idea could have been used very well and would have been cool to see. When I first watched Jurassic Park 3 for the first time, I was a huge Dino nerd so of course I was thinking something aquatic like tylosaurus or elasmosaurus or even the Spino. They definitely need to make like a Jurassic Park live action show and use bits and pieces of unused script to make it, the amount of things they can execute would be crazy!! God Bless you Klayton 🙏😁
Midsize theropod exists
Klayton: wouldn't that make you, the perfect big bad for a JP movie set in the 90s
Everything you have spoken about, I do ery much agree with you, I really wish and hope they add those dinosaurs to JP4 If you know what I mean.
I got the sea creature parts of Paleo-Prime 1 & 2 covered for you out of interest. Kronosaurus is listed & could be showcased, but no promises
To me it always made sense that it was the Pteranodons from TLW. Same island. Yes it’s a different section of the island but I don’t think it’s impossible for them to fly just to the side where the beginning of jp3 was. That’s just imo tho. Great vid as always brotha
Personally I'd love to see the Kronosaur and Mosasaur in the next movie. Honestly I just want a scene straight out of Jaws in the next JP movie. Like the way the Tylosaur killed the scientist in JP, the Game
If the next movie isn’t site B im good I won’t watch it
I remember reading as a kid a Lego magazine issue that came in the mail featuring JP3 kits before the film came out and it showed a Kronosaurus set (or some other pliosaur of some kind) and that led me to believe that was going to be in the film, and for a very long time I just figured it was the Kronosaurus that attacked the boat at the start of the film under the cloud cover and it just remained in the vicinity of Isla Sorna as its home territory. And considering the complete lack of any other explanation besides the Spinosaurus, i figured I might as well keep that as my head-canon.
Dude I just want the spino to come back, it was terrifying growing up and I loved it ever since I can remember
Hey man, I haven't watched your channel in years. I'm having a Jurassic Park kick lately and rewatched/first timed (if thats a word) some of your videos and I'm so happy to be back! Your channel helped me a lot through some shitty times so thank you for that!
Hope you’re doing better now man! Thank you for the kind words! I really appreciate it
I too thought the Spino, but this whole film was a mess
Great video I would say that it was the spinosaurus that killed the men on the boat as for the cut kronosaurus I think it could be used for something in a future movie.
Cant believe I was following you here and Dragoncurve and didn’t put two and two together 😂
Honestly i would have love to see JP have a dunkleosteus, helicorpion,plesiosaurus,tylosaurus or even a kronosarurus like you mentioned, but JP sounds like a place where there are abandoned marine enclosures waiting to be discovered
Great information, Klayton! I didn't know about the movie Loch Ness and I always wanted to watch something on that topic, but I didn't know any. Now I'm going to watch it. Regarding the attack, I think it could have been either pterosaurs or something from the sea...
Always love your videos. Can't say I've been watching recently but you're still the best , I hope you know that .
And yes that's a quote , iykyk
I bet there were loads of cut content from the movie that should've been included. Would've made the film better and a bit longer.
Based on the damage to the boat, almost certainly not an aquatic reptile.
I think a group of kronosaurs as pack hunters would be a cool idea, gives them some distinguishing characteristics over the solitary mosasaur.
I used to think that it was the spinosaurus but now I believe it was the pterosaurs. I think this for a several reasons:
1. We already see some other variants out on the island in the second film. My thought is they were all supposed to be in The Birdcage originally but perhaps there was some smaller hole or holes off screen that smaller species or even juveniles could squeeze out of.
2. We see that the canvas covering the boat is torn and slashed. That to me does not make sense for a marine creature. Yes it's possible but it seems more indicative of an aerial attack.
3. In The Birdcage we see the nest and human bones, possibly from the remains of the boat crew. How did they get there unless they were carried there by some juvenile or other avian species?
4. Amanda Kirby failing to properly secure the latch on the door does not mean that was the only way out of The Birdcage. Remember the whole place was falling apart. It just means that the the larger specimens can now leave. It's kind of the same phenomenon as the sheer drop at the T-Rex Paddock. Just because it happened off screen doesn't mean it can't happen.
5. It could be yet a third group of pterosaurs that we don't see on screen. Ben and Eric do not get to see what happened because of the cloud cover but we are given a clue. The boat runs aground on some jagged outcroppings. We know from the third film and Jurassic World that these pterosaurs can swim to some degree. So it's possible the reason we don't see them is because they came up from fishing underneath. Perhaps the rocky outcropping provided them with a vantage point to fish and rest. The biggest question however is did they come from The Birdcage or are they another group totally independent.
Snoopy’s Racing Railway is a fun ride! Capacity is a bit of an issue, but with the kids-only policy, it seems to work. But it’s awesome to see the park invest more in families. I think Carowinds has an exciting future ahead of it!
I want the velociraptors in the new jurassic park movie to look scientifically accurate and the dilophosaurus not to spit poison because in reality it didn't
Kronosaurus has been my favorite aquatic reptile since I read Raptor Red. Your idea of it attacking the marines at the end of jp3 could have been really amazing if the ending was reworked a bit. Maybe reminiscent of Jaws?
I thought it was the pterodactyls to be totally honest. I don't think too hard when I watch movies so it never clicked they were locked up. The human skull in the nest pointed to that thread so I accepted it. I've really been enjoying how fans speculate and shore up plot holes. I would have loved to see a plesiosaur with the implication it plucked those dudes out of a boat the way people pick an orange.
I could go any way with it, the mystery kind of works for me. JP3 was not my favorite but it had some good elements to it.
Also, Amen to your closing comments 🙏
Thank you for sharing the great content!
My personal favorites that I would love to see in this saga are Dunkleosteus, Nautiloide Othoceras, Titanoboa, and above all... my beloved Sarcosuchus Imperator (Or Deinosuchus, any of the two would suit me).
I'm already really happy that we saw a Terizinosaurus in JW 3 because he's also in my favorites
I know they never did find out what kind of creature that was that attacked the people on the boat. In my opinion it could have been the Loch Ness Monster or some other prehistoric creature we didn't see. It obviously wasn't a Megalodon or else it would rip the boat and eat them like sushi. If that was deleted scene they should put it back on DVD someday. Oh and by the way Klayton you the man.😊
Love your channel
They need to being back the Deinosuchus, and other marine beast.
Wow i didn't know that when I was little but thanks for telling us that if that dinosaur was Canon i would be a good theory about so thanks for sharing it klayton your my favorite UA-camr ever ❤️☺️
Deinosuchus perhaps? It was in the lost world game. Kinda steps onto aquatic/crocodilian/monstrosity territory that was already taken of course.
Wasn't deinosuchus also cut from one of the movies? One of the unseen JW paddocks I think. That was my first thought. Not sure about their prehistoric cousins but saltwater crocs have been known to hang around shores. It probably would in order to avoid competing with the spino.
One thing that I always wondered about in JP3 was the human remains INSIDE the aviary. In the scene Eric Kirby gets carried off by an adult Pteranodon, and is dropped into the nest. He picks up a human skull and throws it at the juvenile Pteranodon's. Where did those bones come from?
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Also always knew it was the spino that took out the boat
Time to add another pointless action scene to my own jp novel
The creature in the thumbnail looks like the mosasaurus from Jurassic World.
crazy the mysterious prehistoric monster that got cut from jurassic park 3 [2001 ] film -explained !!!!
The JP3 movie was originally supposed to mainly concern the Pterasaurs and some other smaller escaped species. The Pterosaurs were 100% what killed them. Its been confirmed in multiple interviews.
Then they completely changed the movie mid shooting and recast the actors in new parts.
It was supposed to be a mystery thriller but egos basically ruined the entire project from the ground up. The fact that its atleast still the third best movie is a miracle lol
The Mosasauras would have lost alot of its Specialness had there been an aquatic creature in JP3
Last time I was this early, I was a bricklayer and not a hang glider.
Figured it was the Spinosaurus, but the Kronosaurus would be a good explanation, too.
I always assumed it was the spino, kinda meant to be ome of those things that when you see the spino swimming later, you go "oh so THAT'S what happened to the guys on the boat" but I've always had issues with that, thinking wouldn't the spino just take down the boat? How did it get them off without flipping the boat or sinking it entirely? Did it swipe them off as the boat went by or something? I feel like there's holes anyway you theorize it. Also, it always felt like the way it played out, something got onto the boat, killed them, and then left, idk what that could even be though 😂
It could have been pteradons because the Ingen pterosaurs existed. The JP3 pterosaurs were likely created by Biosyn/Ingen in 1999/2000 timeframe. But I don’t think it was pterodons because they couldn’t realistically have flown into there without being seen. They also would have attacked Eric and Ben first. It would make much more sense.
With the lost world I really wish they would’ve went with Raptors make imagine Ian and Sarah going it still doesn’t explain if the T Rex was in there how the whole crew is dead and then it pans away into the shadows and shows two or maybe three raptors watching them from very far away and then you hear sirens and they look and there’s distant lights flashing and then they runoff into the night and then the rest of the ending goes the way it already is
They should do a stand alone movie. Jurassic World: Mosasaur.
And it's just a movie taking place at sea involving the mosasaur and people trying to catch it/kill it. As well as showing the impact the mosasaur has had on the ocean thus far.
I don´t know if that was the right moment to include a marine predator on the size and scale of Kronosaurus, but I´d absolutely love the future addition of a pliosaur, other more conventional plesiosaurs, or even some type of ichthyosaur of all animals. They´ve already included animals such as Nothosaurus in Camp Cretaceous, so unconventional animals that are not within the Dinosauria clade are well on the menu by this point.
(TLDR Spielberg please give me the WWD Liopleurodon I beg you)
I'll always love Jurassic Park 3
I am a 16-year-old boy from Egypt and I am I have been following you since I was 10 years old. Indeed, you and the gaming beaver are the two best for me on UA-cam in the field of dinosaurs.
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i think it would have been quite immersion shattering if it was the pteranodons because every single person watching would say the sane thing
"why would they attack the boat and not the people flying"
god gawd JP3 is so bad. My biggest takeaway has always been the William H Macy Quote about launching a $150 million dollar ship without a rudder.
This is the issue with poor planning. If i remember correctly, they were writing the script while filming. So it had a lot of changes being made. If i was an actor in the film i would have left because that is no way to work 🤣
I would like for this mystery Sea Dino return In a future Jurassic park movie.
I feel if Krono is added, Mosasaurus wouldn't feel that special
Well, if you watch the new trailer of jurassic park chaos theory, theres a screen with dinosaur sightings with pings in the pacific ( where we know the mosasaur lives), and in the gulf of mexico. Whos to say those blips couldnt be the kronosaur? Its smaller than a mosasaur so it could have easily slipped by radar and satellites
It is fun to dive into fan theories. But not for one second in 23 years have I ever doubted it was anything but the Spinosaurus, still don't
Huh , that’s interesting…I just thought it was the spinosaurus, or some sort of spinosauriade creature
I'm onboard for more underwater creatures in this franchise.
Well JP3 was being rewritten on the fly. So making the Tyranadons locked up could have been a rewrite after the original opening was already filmed.
Some of these nice concepts always get abandoned about as much as the humans/ingen clones being left behind on the island especially the brachiosaurus R.I.P...
But nonetheless it would've been nice to see what a early 2000s attack by a marine reptile would've been like fpr JP3 but sadly never got to witness it till 2015 JW with the mosasaurus... Ironic since ever since 2001 to 2015 been busy getting my education and sure enough 3 years later after i graduated highschool in 2012 in my late teens starting my early 20s here comes JW to give context sure we got the walking with dinosaurs 3D movie in 2013 (which again is just basically a reversal of 2011 march of the dinosaurs going from Edmontosaurus to a pachyrhinosaurus perspective... check it out its pretty underrated) and TF age of extinction in 2014 introducing the dinobots in live action form for transformers...
All and all i believe the close we can get to a aquatic attack from a marine reptile is something along the lines of animal planets lost tapes with the monster of Monterey certainly alot more better than the bear lake monster episode even having said cryptid act like a crocodile making use of both land and the water and if you seen the episode you know how bad it is also highly recommend checking out smaugtheDM for videos hes done on that series he recently did a roast on the hobbit trilogy for cinemasins and its down right hilarious...
Great work on another video man keep up the hard work also hope you're doing ok and life for you is going well god bless you klayton and both your channels. 😎👍