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I was fine with my report and looking for basic info. Also CRI has some privacy restrictions that made me more comfortable. I did not want my info shared.
Who are you trying to keep your DNA away from? If you're worried about privacy, please be sure to watch this video about what people can or can not do with your DNA ua-cam.com/video/T9Edt6Vew-c/v-deo.html Additionally, what good is privacy if you can't download your RAW DNA file? Or, you can't do anything with the DNA results to ensure that the results you're getting are valuable?
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics you’re really selling me on the item your reviewing especially since you haven’t even used it which is usually someone does when doing a review. Instead you should have done a 23 and me and ancestry review instead.
A couple BIG differences, CRI is run by an actual scientist and they aren't partnered with any data companies. 23 and Me, Ancestry and nearly all of the others actively sell your info
UA-cam/Google also sells your data. CRI has no genealogical relavant tools to help people in the hobby. If you want to buy it to get another ethnicity test, by all means do that.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Indeed social media and Google sell all our info to big marketing companies etc. But DNA is way more important than my search history 😂
CRI this the best. They knew the tribe of Indian I was from. 23&me didn't ancestry DNA couldn't.. CRI have there own private labs. The other ones use 3rd party labs. CRI goes back farther. I am happy with CRI.
Be happy with them. I will agree stand by my opinion that they are not valuable to serious genetic genealogists. The quality of any genetic genealogy company is the ability to do DNA matching and having large sample sizes to compare our DNA to. CRI genetics has neither.
I was not interested in matching so I’ve been really happy with my CRI report. The one and only thing that I am a little irked about is that there are many reports that I am having to pay more for now. But on the other hand almost every few months a new report pops in for free too. It’s all very fascinating and their videos were well done. At least it explains how we might have genes that say we are likely to be allergic to peanuts but we don’t experience the symptoms
HAHAHA I paid for the test of my full brother too. For the rest of my family we will probably go with one of the others though. I was hoping to build family tree info. Well my brother is the test subject. :-) Since I am female I made him take the test to get the deep ancestry paternal and Maternal line at least. lol
Sounds like he is promoting 23and Me and bashing cri without accurate knowledge and experience with cri. Based on knowledge suffering the web which might not be accurate info as well
It makes me kind of sad that, as the capitalist I am (sort of), that you are taking business away from this company. They are not perfect, but it is a perfectly respectable company. The company never promises anything other than what it delivers. Some of the people I'm reading comments from seem to expect things not offered and others seem to think that because their tree goes back to a certain county for 2 or 300 years that they are purely genetically from that country. We know that is impossible. I agree that the company's timeline is "off" for number of generations. Some people seem to expect the impossible. My suggestion is for people to do a family tree before they try to say they are "pure" anything. When I did mine I found people from places I never suspected. I always assumed and I was wrong. When I did my DNA with Ancestry I verified many findings in my family tree. Family "word of mouth" is never accurate.
I agree that building a tree with DNA matches and genealogical records is the way to go. I made this video to advise genetic genealogy researchers that this company wouldn't help them do that.
Please post if your CRI matches the Ancestry.com results. In my case the CRI were totally opposite of my Ancestry.com and national geographic results. It's like I'm a totally different person with CRI.
I have done four tests on my DNA three years ago through CRI Genetics and I am very pleased with the results. I received the results in six weeks. The recent DNA test that goes back 500 years was 100% accurate. My parents told me when I was young about our family history who they were and where they came from. My advanced test was a complete surprise but when I started studying the map and the history where all my ancestors came from, it all came together how this population survived and moved on to different places. I am happy with my results.
Should a serious genealogist take the CRI Genetics test - Absolutely - especially if they want to break down some brick walls within their autosomal ancestors within the last 500 years. Their results show segments on chromosomes in a an autosomal way (and not just straight paternal or maternal lines. If you have some unique ancestry (such as Native American) that is not picked up by the big box DNA companies (Ancestry, MyHeritage, FTDNA or may have been on your 23andMe report but now has disappeared then definitely yes because they look at your entire autosome and pull together the smaller segments that you see in Gedmatch. They also give you a timeline that reports on segments they found for say Native American and give you a "number" on a particular chromosome that you can then go on DNA painting and plot where that segment is and if you have already painted that segment with say one of your 16 GG Grand parental familes. It has been a "huge" help and I think you should re-evaluate your thinking on them.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Wrong - if you are into DNA painting of your ancestors on their respective chromosomes and segments the timeline with the "start" numbers at least helps to identify where (for Instance) your native American ancestry may be and on which family line it may be on.
@@davidirwin1549 EXACTLY. Our family has Chactaw Indian in our bloodline and 23 and Me didn't even pick it up. I'm taking CRI to see if it will show the Chactaw Indian.
Hi guys! I'm tyring to figure out what's the best and clear DNA ancestry kit is? Can someone please suggest a good kit? Preferably which countries my ancestors are from?
Depends on what you're interested in. If you just want to know what countries, any of them will do. If you're doing family trees Ancestry is best. If you're not doing a tree, maybe 23andMe.
If you don't know anything about where your ancestors are from. 1. Begin doing traditional genealogy research 2. Take a DNA test with matching capabilities. 3. Ignore ethnicity estimates until you need clues to continue your research for #1 and #2. There are no quick answers to where your ancestors are from. Anyone telling you other wise is selling you something. I'm just a guy on YT sharing with you a free video to watch.
Just wanted to touch on the bit of CRI not being anymore accurate than 23andMe. I did both, first 23 and then just recently CRI, with 23andMe the results were a bit more broad, for example they told me 99% Eastern European, for a while they didn't specify which countries they meant by Eastern European. I had emailed them and asked for something more specific. What happened? they gave me a survey to answer where my parents and grandparents were born, when they updated it, it showed two countries one "highly likely match" the other "also likely match". This didn't build much confidence in their methods, especially because it seemed to me they needed me to answer a survey first and then let me hear what I wanted to hear. CRI never sent any survey to check where I was born or my parents or grandparents, they took my sample and gave a much more detailed breakdown, not just "Eastern European", but a percentage breakdown of which specific European and Slavic groups.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm still not convinced that they have a large enough sample size to offer the ethnicity estimates that they share no matter how much they break it down from the continental level.
I have a question that maybe someone anyone can help me with. I have no idea who my parents are and I would really like to know. What can I do or would taking a DNA text help me with finding my relatives are and if so what is the test called? I would really really appreciate any advice or suggestions. Thank you so much.
Taking a DNA test can help. I have a series that you'll want to watch that walks you through the steps for researching situations similar to yours. ua-cam.com/play/PLcVx-GSCjcdk1GsAs9NfLWKvACcjE3Afg.html
Ancestry's test will definately help you if any biological family members have tested. May even help you find your birth parents. There have been stories about testers finding out deep root history.
The recent ancestry report covers 5 generations and the advanced ancestry report covers generations 6 and back. So you would need to combine, then divide the percentage sin each to get a sense of how it compares to other companies. It took me time to realize that, so it actually is not that far off from my testing elsewhere. Because I do have unknown ancestors in the past five generations, the recent report is giving me some clues that will help me in my family history research. What is suspect to me is the maternal mitochondrial haplogroup. They provided it, even though I did not pay for the separate fee. It is very different from my test results with 23andme. Will have to determine why.
I'm glad you were able to find some clues. I think you would be better off doing testing with companies that have DNA Matching than just ethnicity estimates.
I think CRI was a great starting point. I do have doubts about the accuracy but it opened up the possibility that I might have some asian genetics that I never would have considered. My report showed my scandiavian heritage much smaller than I thought is was. I don't understand how this is possible, so if anyone wants to explain that, please do. I agree with the conversations that discusses how paying extra for the haplogroups may not be worth it. Also I don't think paying for the famous relative report is worth it.
Watch our videos about DNA + Ethnicity. It should help you understand why the percentages are different. ua-cam.com/play/PLcVx-GSCjcdlvwsLScE4NPKwGA-XUNhhM.html
My grandma took the CRI Genetics test, and it said she was 57% Italian, which is completely accurate, but it also said she was 12.6% Chinese. So idk if that is bull crap or not…
The way to build trust in their results would be to download your RAW DNA and import that into other companies. Unfortunately, CRI Genetics doesn't allow this option.
The results I obtained recently from the Ancestry DNA Test were different from the My Heritage DNA Test I did a few years ago. It certainly makes me wonder about the validity of these tests.
Ethnicity results always have been and always will be estimates. No company can claim to be more accurate than another because there is no common standard by which accuracy is measured for these tests.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics that is good to know, since CRI said that I was 14% Italian, yet my brother's very detailed family tree had no Italian in there at all. It is English, Irish, Scottish, and Dutch, with a small possibility of Native American. The rest of their info did fit with the family tree. I will always wonder what the 14% Italian might have really been, though.
@@peneljsmith CRI said I was 30% Italian and 55% EUROPEAN. And 45% Indian/Pakistani But 23&Me says I’m 100% North Indian/Pakistani. Which makes more sense
@@Heraclanthes I got mine redone by My Heritage, and then uploaded to a few other sites, and I got odd results from all. Not the Italian, but West Asia and eastern European, Siberian, Chinese, and things like that. Put together, they might be Native American, but nobody says that. I am even more confused now.
Glad I saw this they did a "wait you a winner here's 15% off this item if you add it now" after checking out. I canceled so fast and gona go to another one and save the extra 100$ thanks for uploading this
have you built a family tree to prove that statement? My wife has 5 different results from 5 other DNA companies and they can't agree. She's built out her family tree as far as records currently allow. No one company is closer to being right (and CRI genetics wouldn't be any different).
I took this test with my family, and we are all so confused. My dad got 20% german, i expected at least some but I got 0% german. IS that possible? He also got only 2.3% dutch but I got a whole 11.6% dutch, my mums mostly asian but she still didnt get any dutch. So where did I get all this Dutch DNA from? We also got the health report which they havent provided. My mum got 69.9% asian (indian, sri lankanan type area) and my father got 100% european. So I thought I would be about 40-50 percent european, but im only 34.3. But I am 65.7% asian. Is it possible for my mum and I to be so close? We are really confused.
Please watch the series of videos we have made explaining genetic inheritance and the ethnicity results. ua-cam.com/play/PLcVx-GSCjcdlvwsLScE4NPKwGA-XUNhhM.html Then, I suggest you switch your approach to genetic genealogy. You should be using it to help extend or build your family tree. Begin by building a family tree with what you know. ua-cam.com/video/Fx2Tff-R-yI/v-deo.html Then, use DNA matching to extend that information.
DNA ( ethnicity inheritance) is random.. You never get an "even" amount from your parents... siblings can differ as well, identical twins will still have different percentages
I was very disappointed in CRI. I am the product of over 200 years of appalachian inbreeding (cousin to cousin marriages) , and know who my ancestors are and where they came from going back over 200 years, they missed that mark totally. The health portion says low risk of rheumatiod arthritis - have had it for years, and other issues with the testing . It looks like they tested someone else. Wish had seen this video first.
Sorry we weren't there before you tested. I hope you test with a genetic genealogy company with a tree building feature. You might not discover anything new, but if you have a documented tree, you can help others build theirs.
Wished I had watched this before getting their kit. I assumed I purchased the raw data that was used in their determination of my ancestry. But apparently not. I just got a map of where they claimed my ancestors oriented and generic information about those geographic area. Extremely disappointed.
Then which test would be best? I’m looking to see the lands traveled throughout last few generations. I was also hoping you could help me with something. I don’t know how much the blood or the DNA plays a role in this compared to a genealogy or my last name or if they work in Harmony with one another the problem I have, though is the last name on my birth certificate is actually no relation to me, my father passed away before I was born and so my mother is married. Name is what I got. She was not married to my father. I guess she didn’t realize that she could still give me his last name. How do I make sure I get the right genealogy.
I have used both cri genetics and ancestry. Ancestry has changed my ethnicity to some wild stuff. Weird because my sons dont show those things . By ancestry I’m almost 50% Portuguese. We have a great great grandfather that had a mostly Portuguese surname. Silva. But at the beginning ancestry wasn’t like that.At the beginning, 34% italian . Which made some sense. To 0%. Which didn’t make sense. Cri genetics still shows the italian. From rome my mom used to say. I never tell anyone to used ancestry for ethnicities. But for relatives it is fine. I like that you down play the male and female groups. Because ancestry did that many years ago. But still interesting. If i had to pick one over another for ethnicities, that would be cri genetics. Not ancestry. But for seeing relatives, ancestry is good.
The wild swings are due to the reference populations for Portugal is that there are fewer than 1,000 persons in the reference population that you're DNA is compared to. I know this will continue to swing if they increase the number of persons in that group, and others. www.ancestrycdn.com/support/us/2021/09/ethnicity2021whitepaper.pdf CRI Genetics does not provide white papers about their reference populations which makes it hard to determine whether they truly are more accurate or note.
I agree with you about Ancestry. I need to try CRI. Ancestry keep changing what I am lol. My portuguse too. I have Silva in my family too. They are from Azores.
Thanks for this information. Unfortunately I already purchased CRI kit with the health, and am displeased. The health came back as inconclusive, however, the offerd a better test for 89.00 more. Very unhappy with this company.
Thank you! I just ordered this test today. I wanted to compare it to my ancestry and 23andme results. After looking at this videos and several others, I realized that I made a big mistake in ordering this test. I just called the company. I should get my refund in 3 -5 business days. The selling point for me was that the company is offering a 50% discount. When I called to cancel, the customer service representative offered to give me 25% more off the cost. I told him that I have read negative reviews from people saying that the results are way off. By the way, I did not have any wait time like others in the comment section. It could be because today is Sunday. Thanks again!
I hope you received your money back. I advise against the test not so much because of their accuracy or inaccuracy of their ethnicity results. I advise against it as it offers no genetic genealogy research advantages and you can't download your RAW DNA.
I purchased all of CRI's tests a few months ago. I was confused about the difference between the "recent" and "advanced" ancestry analyses. I still am. I think your guess is clearly wrong. The information that was offered to me in the "advanced analysis" and the "advanced timeline" could not possibly have come from the two haplogroup tests. It seems to me they are looking for clusters of genes that came from specific individuals. For example, four generations back, CRI says with 99% confidence, that it has identified four individual ancestors, who are, respectively, N.W. European, Colombian, British Isles, and Northern European. These are said to be based, respectively, on chromosomes 8, 11, 11, and 20. The most distant ancestors identified were a Peruvian from 71 generations ago (90% accurate, chromosome 6), and a N.W. European from 76 generations back (chromosome 6, 99% accurate). This info clearly is not based on male and female haplogroups. There are actually some irreconcilable differences between the recent and advanced analyses. Example: The recent analysis says I'm 5% Kinh Vietnamese, while the advanced analysis says instead that I'm 5% South Asian. The advanced analysis also has about 4% Latin American ancestry, which is missing entirely from the recent ancestry.
I would be extremely skeptical in any ethnicity results that are outside of England, Wales and Scotland. Few genetic genealogy companies have large enough reference populations to confirm the percentages you are quoting for the regions you are naming.
what i found strange was that the Recent Analysis (5 generations) said 100% European but the Advanced Timeline said 5 generations back Southern Han Chinese with 99% accuracy and 6 generations back Punjabi with 99% accuracy. It seems rather strange that I can be 100% European at the same time I have Southern Han Chinese and Punjabi. Also, they are saying that the Southern Han Chinese was about 1875 and I have all my branches back at least that far and they are all of European origin.
With the small reference populations for all DNA testing companies that offer ethnicity estimates, the results are all over the place. However, CRI genetics doesn't offer enough insight into their reference set for me to pursue them further.
@@bartonbella3131 columbian, peruvian, puerto rican,mexican, tamil,.japanese, korean, ..all of which sounds a little odd for someone showing as 100% European..
I, unfortunately just found this video after placing an order for my adopted son. If we're using this for purely ethnic and medical information, not to locate family, do you feel that I've made a big mistake for him? He has a diverse ethnic and racial background, and that's the part we're interested in. I'd appreciate your input.
The company does provide ethnicity and medical information. However, 23andMe is cheaper AND you get additional benefits that adoptees need when building their family tree - the possibility of connecting with close relatives. Not necessarily for the relationship, but for the knowledge of health factors that DNA tests can't always provide.
Hi Anthony. Could you please explain why did you get the refund? you were not happy with the results? I am looking about these test. I would appreciate your help
If you haven't done the 23 and Me yet, you may want to consider the fact that they will sell your genetic data - and technically not only yours, because all your nearest relatives share quite a bit of your dna.
my grandma and her second cousin(male) share a common male ancestor. shouldn't they have the same paternal haplogroup. grandmother-------------------------> father(W McKenzie)------->grandfather(N McKenzie)----->GGF(James McKenzie) 2nd cousin(McKenzie)---------->father(F MCKENZIE)------->grandfather(A McKenzie)----->GGF(James McKenzie) Wouldn't the DNA test results show that they have the same paternal haplogroup. I apologize in advance if this is a stupid question
I don't really focus on this on my channel. We focus on tree building. However, here's a fun video about what traits are inherited through DNA ua-cam.com/video/UwfOzWJax_A/v-deo.html
I'm truly not impressed with CRI genetics, 14 months ago I took one of their DNA test kits, I have yet to receive an advanced timeline. After emailing them, I was told it required at minimum 80% DNA accuracy (no idea what level of accuracy was used to compile my other reports, and the results seemed very off from what I knew of my family line) and that my DNA would be reprocessed to make a report and to expect it to take 2-4 weeks. Despite the strange findings in the areas I believe I knew of my family I was open to the science behind the findings but I question the quality, and have yet to receive results. The time frame they requested has passed and I have reached out to them again. I have recently followed up with a report from ancestry, and hope to have answers soon
Welp, I saw this a little to late, but, as I just sent out the test, I am willing to provide updated information to you guys on how CRI is doing things. And I got the health and ancestry one, paid $107 total after tax and what not.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics , honestly, I can see why you didn't go with them. I got the health and genetics pack, thinking I'd be able to see my mom's side of the family. Nope! Locked behind credits that cost $20 for one credit, or $200 for 10
Because Barb is a regular viewer of this channel, unlike yourself. She respects my advice on how best to allocate her research dollars to build her family tree. I've earned her trust through my other videos to steer her in the right direction. That's why his opinion has value. Perhaps you could try binge watching my other company reviews and genetic genealogy research training?
My results were identical to CRI Genetics' sample images. Looks like a scam to me for sure. Requesting a full refund or else I'll go to my credit card company and dispute it, and report them to the BBB.
@@andrealanderos2106 Yes. They didn't seem to want to until I reported them to the BBB. I received an email saying that "sometimes DNA results are confusing. We're now considering this case closed." So I went to the Better Business Bureau. They were very apologetic after that, and ended up issuing a full refund.
I'm glad you were able to receive a refund. If you're displeased, please file a complaint with the BBB but be very specific what you don't like. People often threaten but they aren't specific in what they didn't like in their transaction.
Thanks for sharing your review, however, define useful. I never said the test wouldn't give you information. I dislike the inability to download your RAW DNA so you can transfer it to other companies to get even more useful information. Plus, it's lacking useful information on DNA matching. Without that, the ethnicity results are not helpful in understanding your heritage.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics so I’m curious which DNA test kit do you like the best that had the most accurate results? I know CRI is down to 69 dollars right now for the heritage and traits kit and the heritage and health kit is 99. I’m just curious as to which one you think is best cause I have the money put aside just haven’t ordered one yet.
So.... I watched this video, called the company for a refund (made the purchase the day before), I was placed on a 20 minute hold before my refund could be process to ensure the warehouse knew the order was cancelled. But I got my money back!
Yeah I climbed the family tree...turns out mine was only a stump. I was traced to the first cave people. I should gave known looking at some of my relatives by the way they have hairy backs and are still dragging their knuckles on the ground.
My mom ordered a CRI genetics DNA test for my family and we took it. A complaint I have is that for the "recent analysis" section it says I am 11% Peruvian but when I click on it it says undefined. Then I look at "advanced analysis" it says 47% Peruvian. Is it 47% undefined? I am so confused lol
Yep. I can understand why you're confused. It's my understanding that CRI doesn't have a large enough sample for Peru to give you enough details. This isn't surprising since Peru, like most South American countries, is a mix of cultured that immigrated into the area in the last 1,000 years. As such, your ethnicity results should have a wide range of ethnicities, unless you are direct descendants a few generations back from Perusivan natives. Even then, I would still be skeptical. Few databases have a large enough reference population of natives from South America to provide you conclusive evidence. Sadly, I wish you would have avoided testing with CRI genetics (or any company) for ethnicity results. Instead, I wish you would have tested with the major genetic genealogy research companies because once the novelty of the ethnicity results wore off, you could work on building your family tree using DNA matches.
I did the test and had my dad do one (I'm female) because I got a 'special' and wanted to see how it compared to the other 2 I did and I was very interested in the 'other stuff' (reports based on your genome, having to do with traits, nutrition, wellness, etc). The ancestry stuff was pretty much in line with the others and a little more detail the others didn't have that matches what I have been finding, so I was pretty happy with that. A few of the reports were very interesting and informative to me, but out of the 52 I ended up with, about a third were totally worthless, said 'inconclusive', and about a third were just dumb, does your urine smell like asparagus, do you have freckles, are your eyes brown or blue, stuff you obviously already know, or just don't care about, seriously, does your urine smell like asparagus, give me a break. So while I was happy with the initial purchase, the yearly subscription is a scam. I did the subscription the first time (again, only because it was a 'special' price, normal is $100 + tax). They give you some of the reports up front and then try to hook you into the VIP subscription with the promise of all these fabulous reports you will have be able to get. They give you monthly credits with which you can 'purchase' additional reports, which they say will be produced monthly. They are not. There were hardly any new reports and the few that I did get, 90% said inconclusive, totally worthless, don't fall for the subscription.
Amen! You were so eloquent in your detail of all the falsely represented reports and details that CRI was going to provide! I just want to tag-team with you and add to my comment: “Please refer to additional details via comment below.” CRI puts on a good advertising show but, it’s like buying snake oil in the old west!!
I did CRI, and it doesn't come close to matching my 23&me, Ancestry, and My Heritage results. Also, they have several of the wrong flags for different countries. It is such a basic mistake, and is highly disappointing. Also, you have to pay extra to see your haplogroups, and pay a membership fee for updates, whereas 23&me and Ancestry provide that for free.
Thanks for sharing your review. Your experience falls in line with what I anticipated. And the additional cost for haplogroups when the test is already more expensive without the features of other genetic genealogy tests makes it less likely that I would recommend it.
I wish I had seen this report before I got tested by CRI. Even their recent genetics reports were vastly different for me than those from other companies like 23&me and Ancestry. When I tried to understand why this was I got the usual "a genetic report" isn't the same a genealogy from CRI support. This video helped me understand the deep dive better and why some ethnicities appeared to be over represented. Now that I understand how this testing is done I know that it is of no genealogical use to me. Don't get this test unless you just want a conversation starter about your mother's maternal and your father's paternal deep ancestry. I think their ads are misleading as they leave out a lot of information about what you are really getting from them.
I don't think the other DNA services dig as deeply into your DNA. For instance, populations in England are mixed - French, Italian, German, Irish, and many others. Those populations have been there for many hundreds of years. If the companies are comparing your DNA to the present/recent population of England (which they claim they do), which has been mixed for what, thousands of years, are they really being accurate when they say you are 50 or 75% English? In the past, I've done a lot of family tree work and some trees took me back to Italy, but way, way back over 1000 years. Who knows if it was completely accurate, but when you find a tree that goes back that far, it means that most probably it has been fairly thoroughly researched because it was a prominent family. When CRI gave me a percentage of Italian, I was a bit surprised, but not totally. Most of my ancestors can be traced back to England, Ireland, and Scotland, and the family has always been certain we were 100% from that region. Family history and assumptions are wrong more than many people would like to admit. It turns out I have way more German DNA than I ever thought, but, again, there have been many people of German descent in England for more than 1000 years. Then, in my family tree I have come across quite a few Dutch ancestors (German?). I doubt any of the DNA services are 100% accurate, but I like that CRI gives you the actual genes that link you to a population with the same genes as you from many generations in the past. For instance, I have the same gene that the Italian centenarians have, also the Chinese centenarians have the same gene. CRI has links to scientific studies that back up their findings.
Sorry I didn't get the video out before you tested with them. But you're right, don't take ANY genetic genealogy test for ethnicity results until you understand the analysis behind them.
CRI Genetics has superior privacy. That’s why I went with them instead. They cannot sell your information. Those ~other~companies can… and DO! I believe selling that kind of info without consent is ethically corrupt. I feel much safer with CRI.
If privacy is your concern, then CRI genetics could be fine for you. For genetic genealogy research, your DNA has to be shared with other researchers to validate the ethnicity results. CRI Genetics does not offer DNA matching so their results are suspect at best.
CRI said I had an ancestor from Great Britain and one from India in 1875. My entire family lived in Italy as far back as I know and I’ve done research. This was the biggest waste of $240 I ever spent in my life.!
I have done five DNA tests, and several have been VERY useful to my genealogical research. CRI was not merely an anomaly, it was bogus beyond my imagination. My genealogy work has been (for the most part) easy and straightforward because my family came from England and Scotland and settled in Virginia in the 1600s; then they never left. Over 90% of my ancestors fit that description -- four centuries, ten to fourteen generations. Furthermore, for the last 250+ years (five to seven generations), they have been in a small, isolated, rural region of southern Virginia. It is not an exciting family history compared to most Americans, but it really makes genealogical work easy. My DNA tests from various companies have been relatively similar and have reflected this Celtic and Anglo-Saxon (Northwestern European) background. But CRI gave me a very exotic background that defied history -- not merely my family history, but the history of North America. They gave me, among other impossibilities, a Peruvian and a Punjabi ancestor within the last five generations. Really? A Punjabi or a Peruvian (what, an Inca?) in an isolated, rural farm community in nowhere, Virginia in the 19th or early 20th Century? Why not a Sami or an Inuit? That would be equally as probable. CRI only estimated 25% of my ancestry from the British Isles (CRI combines Celtic and Anglo-Saxon ethnic groupings, which few other DNA testers do). Yep, that's 25% when I know that almost all of my ancestors came from the British Isles. How about it CRI? I think I'll believe all the other DNA companies that estimated ca. 90% from England and the Celtic countries -- a reflection of my actual family history. Would I recommend CRI to anyone for any reason? What do you think?
I had the same experience with CRI. They stated results that do not match my known history and the complete opposite of my previous DNA test! I submitted to CRI to basically confirm the previous 3 DNA test I took. The CRI results was basically of someone that is not me?
You are missing the fact that your ancestors thousands of years ago travelled. You might think your family is from England and Scotland, but you do realize that England was settled thousands of years ago by people from Turkey and many other populations from other parts of the eastern and possibly Western hemisphere? You might have many ancestors from another part of the world who migrated to and then stayed in the British Isles and over the centuries they became Scottish and English and stayed closely related. To make it even more confusing, many English people were originally Germanic. We are all a big mish mash from many places in the world.
@@jjbud3124 I'm very much aware of human migrations throughout history. Perhaps it's the terminology use? Example; Peru or Puerto Rico did not exist in the 1400s neither did Italy or Germany yet it states German and Italian are in my DNA! I know as a fact there is no German or Italian in my ancestry. There was no major German nor Italian migration to America until the 1800s. I have trace my ancestry to the 1600s Caribbean and Florida, my people have lived in America before Anglo-Saxon or German migration, he'll before there was a United States!
@@Flametree1492 I made a long reply then lost it. Grrrr. Anyway, this is what an anthropologist from Brown University says: Re being 100% of any ethnicity: "In fact it is not even possible mathematically/logically. It is only a matter of how many generations back you go before you necessarily find ancestors from a different ethnicity or racial group, even if your immediate ancestors were all inbred with each other. If you go back far enough all of your ancestors were a different ethnicity, race, and even species from you." Populations from Europe, America, and Asia are very mixed. Europeans (as far as we know) first visited the Americans 1300 years ago, 600 years ago, 400 years ago, and constantly until this day (and how many times in between I wonder?).
Thanks! I just saw a website where they place CRI Genetics as the best just above 23&me, and Ancestry. Then I became suspicious, because just below “their research” you can buy the CRI kit. Great video! Great information!
I saw the same thing but all 3 had sale kits . So, Why are you so suspicious that don't make sense ? 23 and me also has sale kit after you finished reading and so does Ancestry after their information and at the end is sale kit.
I’m pretty sure I saw that same website, which brought me to UA-cam and this video LOL. However, I want to find some place that doesn’t sell purchasers DNA to third parties. That seems to be the difficult thing.
I saw that, too. And, it is why I purchased their test instead (my DNA is still being extracted). Just found that same "review" of 3 genetics tests again, and it says right at the top - in very small print - that they are affiliated with CRI Genetics!That is so shady! I feel a bit bamboozled.
Folks are allowed to have their own opinion about constitutes best. I would not even rank CRI genetics as the best genetic genealogy testing company because it doesn't meet the minimum criteria that I talk about in my recent comparison video. ua-cam.com/video/DiZmj-9yybo/v-deo.html No DNA matches. No ability to download your results or transfer your tests. No collaboration. No it's not the best or even on the list.
I thought I had ordered 23 and me because that's what I had put in the search. I wasn't paying super attention. 100.00 out the window, there isn't really anything that I can use.
Watch this video about African ethnicity and DNA testing. As you might have guessed, I'm not a fan of CRI Genetics because it's not a genetic genealogy company - just an ethnicity company. But, I want you to be aware of why all the DNA testing companies struggle with showcasing African heritage. While I don't mention CRI in this video, they do have the same problem as everyone else - a small reference population. Here's the video I'm mentioning ua-cam.com/video/SFx_AHU__Tw/v-deo.html Here's a video about reference populations that would also be a good one to watch ua-cam.com/video/ScZtHuU78n4/v-deo.html
Hi guys I ordered this test on august 13,2021 and I got the results on October 13,2021. It was a really long wait. My results showed nothing from the country where I was born as well as where my parents and grandparents were born that it was the same country as me. Three of my generation are from a country that didn’t even show any percentage or anything from my gene. Also I paid for the related famous people and I never got the results for that. I emailed them to ask about that and they gave me random answers, they never answered what I asked. I hope that’s not a scam. If it is not a scam they really makeup the answers about my genes.
If you feel that you were scammed, submit a complaint to the Federal Trade Commission. As for the ethnicity results not having what you expected, that likely means that the company doesn't have enough persons in their reference population to compare your DNA to. Without a large enough reference population on their end, you could have the ethnicity in your DNA that you believe you have but the persons in their database don't. So the results are inaccurate or inconclusive.
Your "Famous People" will just be some random ppl from a broad haplogroup.... I got the President of UA-cam.. and Edward the 4th and Henry the 3rd...conveniently dead lines....all through the J haplogroup
I really appreciate your thorough review of CRI… I am so disappointed that I didn’t find it sooner! I had done an Ancestry DNA test with my daughter sometime ago and found lots of information on mostly my mother’s side of the family… which I knew very well. My goal was to find out about my father’s side of the family which I know very little about as he was absent from my life. I have bits and pieces of information but, identifying him and his brother’s name got me only that from Ancestry. CRI was recommended to me by a friend who, hadn’t used them… she found an unknown half-sister via 23 & Me, but, by some advertising Hoop-La of CRI’s sophistication. What a waste of money. I was so upset when I received my reports! Not to mention, most of the reports are quite generic as they then offer you “credits” that you can purchase to use for more specific information… at $50/credit. I didn’t spend another dime or minute with CRI… I put my tail between my legs; walked away; and didn’t look back. How CRI gets any of the rave reviews about health probabilities and genealogy published on their site is beyond me!! I hope that more have seen your review and won’t suffer the disappointment and generic report results I got. Also, they said that it takes 3-6 weeks for processing your report… I got mine in a week! Thanks again.
If you put your information online, you need to recognize that privacy can be an issue. Each company does their best, but once anything is online, it's an issue.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Well I was told I had Irish in my family and the test said otherwise. I'm actually British,Finnish, French,Spanish and Italian,Mexican,Peruvian and Colombian 🥴
It sounds to me like CRI’s “Deep Ancestry” results would not provide me any more information than I already have woth my Family Tree DNA Full Sequence mitochondrial DNA test.
On this point, the reviewer was engaging in uninformed speculation. He is just plain wrong. The "deep ancestry" results are NOT based on mitochondrial DNA.
They are based on patrilineal and matrilineal DNA which would be from the y-DNA and mt-DNA. What else would it be. There are four DNA test types. I cover three of them in this video. Only two of those can give you deep ancestry ua-cam.com/video/JX6VS_KxdY8/v-deo.html
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics As I explained in my post seven months ago, each ancestor specified in the "advanced" analysis is attributed to a sequence of base pairs on particular chromosome. My two most distant ancestors listed in the analysis were based on sequences on chromosome 6.
Does ancestry go back that far or 23 and me? Do they both or either get that specific to region location? Can either of the 3 identify Native American ancestry? This is all I am looking for.
First, what is Native American Ancestry? US Native American ancestry doesn't appear in most genetic genealogy company results. The companies need a reference population to compare our DNA to and most Native Americans in refuse to participate in this genetic testing. However, if you're talking about Central and South American Natives or some Canadian first people, there are some groups that have tested. So, no DNA test will tell you your US Native American Ancestry. Spend time learning about 'going back far' with regards to DNA testing. Autosomal DNA can potentially identify your 4th great-grandparents. Y-DNA MAY tell you a father's, father's, father's line back 10 or more generations. However, it all depends on what you inherited from your genetic ancestors.
Suggestion: Don't spend money on a product that doesn't meet the minimum standards for genetic genealogists. Since they fail in the minimum requirements, no one should take their test, which is what I explain in this video.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics As I stated and I think a Genetic Geneologist might agree, if I haven't tested something first hand how am I supposed to form an intelligent opinion about something, whether it be CRI or any other product. I was just stating the obvious,.
Sounds like it would be a waste of money. 23&Me give you the mitochondrial and Y DNA info along with autosomal matches and, if you want, the health. Personally, I would never do the health without doing a test hrough my doctor's office.
Cathy... I agree with the waste of money. I took the health reports and they were very interesting. If I received any results that needed to consult with a doctor, I would have had a chat. Thus far, nothing turned up.
This video is outright wrong in many respects. The autosomal DNA reports are a five generation, a deep dive, and a timeline. The deep dive goes back a thousand years or more. I am not saying the CRI database is correct. What I am saying is that this video is in large part incorrect. You need to do better research.
Sadly, I did my investigation based on what they presented at the time of when I made the video. Plus, I am a genetic genealogist. Autosomal can not prove all lines of heritage to your 5th great-grandparents. The deep ancestry depends on mtDNA and y-DNA and rarely helps people build their family tree. CRI genetic does not help you build your family tree. So I stand by my review. Use the other genetic genealogy tests with tree building capabilities and ignore any test that only provides ethnicity results. Chances are the ethnicity results are inaccurate and misleading. Something I've discussed on another video. ua-cam.com/video/i70SZRW9t90/v-deo.html
I just got my results. Said I don't have red hair - I do, said I don't have freckles- I do, said I shouldn't be lactose intolerant- I am, and on and on. It was so off of the obvious things, I don't believe any of the results.
Thanks for the input. Since many of these traits are based on probabilities, companies shouldn't be definitive in their results. 23andMe does a good job of showing you the probabilities based on your genetics.
This Question is for anyone and everyone who knows a thing or two about D.N.A percentages ...my D.N.A report said I'm 3% Italian Swiss and 5% Norweigen does this mean my Gene pool started a long way back with Italian Swiss ancestors or does it mean somewhere a SMALL group of people in my family had Italian Swiss members somewhere along the line irrelevant of when ? Strangely enough I have relatives with the Surname Henderson which is a British Isles Surname but their given first names derive from Italian given Names .
It depends. Do you have a paper trail to back up this research? If not, it depends on the reference population that the companies are using and how robust they are. ua-cam.com/video/ScZtHuU78n4/v-deo.html
I did one of these tests, took about a month to get results, didn't tell me anything I didn't already know, fortunately I paid a discount price, I wouldn't recommend.
This guy has no idea of what he is talking about! Cri is a great dna company! Very private, and I am very satisfied 😌 with my results. If he hasn't tested himself yet then how would he know! Try the test 1st before you give others false information.
You are entitled to your opinion. However, CRI Genetics does not offer DNA matching which is critical in building your family tree. Additionally, every company that offers ethnicity results is questionable as they all lack sufficient data to make the claims they do. ua-cam.com/video/u8lMfGqSrwg/v-deo.html If anyone wants a 'party trick', then they can spend their money on CRI Genetics. However, if someone is seriously trying to build their family tree using cousin matching, I stand by my review.
Do you want to print out the ethnicity report? Or do you mean you want to download your RAW DNA. you can't print out the RAW DNA because it would take up too much paper to even consider.
First, learn what a DNA test can and can not do ua-cam.com/video/aJWhXgW6pfo/v-deo.html The learn about the different types of tests ua-cam.com/video/JX6VS_KxdY8/v-deo.html
hi i know im late but i tested with cri genetics my father was supposed to be spanish but my report said i only have two percent they also said im mostly german my last name is wagner but my mom was adopted also my mom got tested they said had spainish dna but that is completely false my mom has no spainish in her bloodline sorry im rambling shoud i trust this report
One of CRI's ads says "we can give you information on 50 generations ago that you won't find in any books because or pictures because books and pictures didn't exist back then." And I'm like, *Books didn't exist in 1021? How do you figure that?!* Totally untrustworthy message, and therefore I don't trust much of anything else they claim.
It is no more misleading than the ads about changing from Irish to German that were run by other companies. Marketing departments are designed to get people to buy stuff, not elucidate scientific or historical truths.
In the chat we were talking about finding new realtives. I found a nephew for my grandfather but the spouse/manager of kit has not reached out to help me figure out which of his siblings has a spare child. Any tips on trying to figure that out? This was on My heritage, and I figured out that it has be a nephew because there are shared matches on his mother's side and the match is my dad's age.
You could deep dive into the family. Search out all the records for the living people to put together what their family tree looks like. Then you may be able to find someone else to approach to get the information.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics If you are replying to me then all of my grandfather's brothers are now deceased and his sister is like 93 or 94 and we are not close. I am not certain there are many living people who I can ask and this person's tree has no information for me to start working from that end.
Stacey, you can look for records for free on familysearch.org. Maybe you can start with the 1940 census to find records, or city directories, to build out a family tree.
I just got my CRI ancestry dna test today, and I was left feeling upset, confused, and uncomfortable. My results showed that I'm supposedly 53.6% European, and 46.4% black. My top European ancestry origins is 24% Italian, and out of my alleged black ancestry 13% Afro-Caribbean (Barbados). My results make so sense to me. I'm visibly black. Yes, I understand that there are dark skinned mixed people that outwardly look black regardless of their mixed ancestry but, I'm not one of those. Both of my parents, and 4 of my grand parents are black. I understand that there are some black Americans that descend from generational mixed people do to slaves having love relationships or being abused, and those mixed people possibly continuously mixing with other mixed people etc. It doesn't make any sense. But, just like a lot black Americans, I don't know much about my family tree. My results don't make any sense. I'm going to seek answers from the company, and press for a refund.
CRI Genetics has not publicly divulged the make up of their reference populations so lots of people have received results from them that seem erroneous.
We would be almost identical with the exception of my amount of African I have. I am visually black. I was showed pictures of my great great grandmother whom looked Indian. I was adopted by the way and know nothing of my fathers history. My readings were 52.6% European (23.2% Italian), 35.6% African, and 11.9% West Indies- Afro-Caribbean (Barbados as well).The West Indies don't surprise me because I was born in Manhattan, NY and a lot of them migrated there. Ours are eerily similar to one another. I was and am very confused. Now I have to spend another $100 for another test by a different company just to compare the two....smh.
@@buckslim4 If I were you I would get a refund. If they refuse, I would file a claim with my bank. They refunded me. I know I'm not mixed. I took dna tests with my heritage, and Ancestry. I think Ancestry is more accurate. But, honestly. Who knows. I'm black, that is what people see, and respond to.
Doesn't a Y-DNA test show the origins of your direct male line? Basically, your father's father's father's father, etc back something like 50 generations? How is that "not really helpful for an individual?" Am I misunderstanding what the Y-DNA test results tell you?
What of the claim of being able to tell when ancestors arrived in country and which generation it was that came over? I paid for both the autosomal test and. Y-dna test to break down what has been a impenetrable wall on my paternal line. I think I am right in saying that they claim to go back 50 generations, with the actual generation in which that paternal ancestor moved from country to country and the year that happened. That’s pretty useful to me if they deliver after 20 years of nothing by searching records and after doing the Ancestry and Family Tree y-dna tests.
the 50 generations back will only be along your father's, father's, father's.... line or your mother's, mother's, mother's, mother's line. If you only care about those ancestors, maybe it's worth it. However, you're still missing the majority of ancestry. And, that many generations back, you can get the same results (and other tools) using a different test.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics I made the distinction between between autosomal and YDna tests. My Ancestry.DNA test and account are what I have been using for years. I think I have about 5000 relatives found that except in a few cases goes back5 to 7 generations. What I can’t do is penetrate my paternal line, hence the 50 generation aspect of the YDna test is invaluable.for me.
@@loyalram4363 So do they tell you the names of each of your relatives in all 50 generations? Without this information how does it help your paternal line?
I just got a report from CRI. It was 100% nothing like the report I had gotten from Ancestry. Furthermore, Ancestry listed several relatives with matching dna that I could verify. Ancestry said I was over 90% British Isles, with 3% German. CRI listed me at 45% German and 20% British Isles. CRI also sent no matching ancestry evidence of their test results. I’d save your money if you’re planning on using this company and perhaps going with Ancestry or 23.
For those of you who are thinking about going with CRI genetics I would not recommend it it's a joke I paid $260 to figure out my ancestry or my genealogy and it says that I'm 35.4% German when I have a Native American grandma who died last year my biological dad is full-blooded Indian and they told me that I was quarter Cherokee Indian but nowhere in the description of my results did it say anything about Native American blood I am extremely pissed for them to waste my time. Not to mention in the 4 to 8 weeks did they ever contact me to let me know that my results were finished so I had to call them and then I had to go through a whole hassle just to get into my account and finally today I saw my results and I was disappointed please whoever reads my comment do not go through them
While I agree with not using CRI genetics, the reason you give is actually something no DNA test can answer. US Native Americans are not part of any reference population accessible to commercial genetic genealogy companies. To learn more about reference populations, watch this video ua-cam.com/video/ScZtHuU78n4/v-deo.html
The review will be similar to this one. Stick with the genetic genealogy companies that have cousin matching. Everything else will have the same review as CRI Genetics
The haplogroup is a poor description of who you are. It is based on a single chromosome that you only get from your father (or your mother for mitochondrial DNA).
23andMe also provides a Haploid group, but the power is in the autosomal DNA matches. AncestryDNA has the best tree building function and the largest database, so it is the best for genetic genealogy.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics If you are talking about your overall genetic make-up you are correct. But if you have need of knowing your male line haplogroup to help identify which family of that surname your father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father came from in England in 1630 when there are at least 27 different haplogroups of people with that surname from the same period, it is useful to know your haplogroup.
Part of genealogical research is based on where people were born or grew up. However, being born in Ohio doesn't make my wife an Ohioan when she spent 50% of her life in Texas. But, genetic genealogy testing can give us clues to our heritage if we combine DNA matching with paper trail genealogy research.
I think, CRI Genetics, is Great. I like My Results. I watched a few, of their videos, of explaining, about your DNA, and what they're explaining, seems correct, to me. Now, Just (some), of my ethnicities, that I was expecting, to be on, other sites, were not. Those ethnicities, that I was expecting, are... Italian and Iberian Ethnicity, (Well... my sister and my mother, got those Ethnicities, on My Heritage site and Family Tree DNA), and for me, I got Iberian, only, on living DNA. Thoses Ethnicities, they are, on my, Recent results, on the, CRI Genetics. And the South Asian Ethnicity, that I was, also expecting, are only, on the Advanced Ethnicity, Results section. Even tho, the South Asian Ethnicity, is only on the, Advanced ethnicity section, it's still on CRI Genetics site. In this, CRI Genetics Review, video, saying... Not better then other sites, because, no DNA Matching. Well... At least they have, a reference population. Well... I do have, ethnicities, on here, that I was expecting.
@@adrienneroxanne9833 I actually meant India- Indian, but I too had Peruvian and Columbian. It's like we're all getting the same results. I have my ancestry traced back to the 13th century on most, 8th century on others and I'm Irish 50% Scottish 27%, Northern England 11%, Welsh 3%, Caucasian 2% , and German 5% per 2 Sub Saharan African on EVERY other test so I don't know if we just got ripped off by CRI or what because we all seem to be showing the same results on CRI but those results don't match anything in my research which lines up with other tests and research
@@bartonbella3131 Should we try 23and me lol? 👀🤭 Yea I had a very small amount of East Indian too lol. I can see maybe Native but not East Indian. Overall I am 89.7 African.
@@adrienneroxanne9833 Honestly, I loved my results and breakdown for 23 and me plus they connect to a ton of members but ancestry DNA has documents and trees you can link to. None are as expensive as CRI. I'd go with 23 and me lol
For men that Y chromosome line makes up a large portion of their genetic makeup. It's the torch that's being passed. Saying it's "only 2 lines" is misleading criticism for men.
No, the Y chromosome is not a large portion of their genetic makeup. The Y chromosome is only 57Mb long compared to 6400Mb for the entire genome. You can only get your Y chromosome from 1 person in any generation, so 10 generations back when you have 1000+ 8th Great Grand parents, your Y chromosome from 1 of them, which represents 1 line. Your mitochondrial DNA also came from 1 of them, which represents 1 line. For the vast majority of genetic genealogy questions, Y and mt DNA will not help you in the least. because you only inherited them from 2 lines out of 1000+ at 10 generations back.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics yeah considering that why chromosome makes up the majority of your T cell responses in your autoimmune system they're definitely seems to be a lot more weight in the Y chromosome for men. So you may be looking at DNA length but it's really disingenuous to say that it's minor compared to the hodgepodge of randomness that makes up X chromosome recombinations
Once again, I will state "For the vast majority of *genetic genealogy questions* , Y and mt DNA will not help you in the least. because you only inherited them from 2 lines out of 1000+ at 10 generations back."
Before I got my Results, was thinking about, like... 75% Chance, that... CRI Genetics, would give me results, that other sites, did not give me, like... South Asian Ethnicity. (White Skin, South Asian) and I did get, the South Asian Ethnicity. I knew it was going to be, less then 10%. I was like.. 6 point, something percent.
Just because a company gives you results others do not, does not make them accurate. My wife's DNA results are inconsistent across the five genetic genealogy companies that offer ethnicity results along with DNA matching. The Matching with others is accurate. The ethnicity results are too inconsistent to declare any company more accurate than other.
Thank you for this helpful video. Over the last year I've been tempted to take this CRI Genetics test but backed away for various reasons including bad reviews, their claims seem exaggerated and because I'm already tested at the big five sites, AncestryDNA, 23andMe, FTDNA, MyHeritage and Living DNA. These sites have autosomal matching databases and ancestry composition estimates plus raw data downloads. At FTDNA I paid for Big Y700 and mitochondrial testing and I paid for Health Traits at 23andMe so it's a waste of time and money for me to test at CRI Genetics. Thanks for clearing up their deficiencies, especially no matching database, small reference populations for autosomal ancestry composition estimates and no raw data download.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Thinking more on this CRI Genetics' advertising also is deceptive as they make it appear you can't get 'deeper' ancestry from other sites when actually 23andMe and Living DNA provide, along with autosomal results, MT and Y haplogroups which can be entered into the free SNP Tracker to view tracking maps and SNPs back ~200,000 years. While your warnings are certainly clear I must say you displayed remarkable restraint not completely savaging CRI Genetics! 😁
Point made about no genetic genealogy functions - meaning, no list of matches to other people. I did my DNA test with CRI Genetics too and was more flabbergasted by the matches to celebrities and royals. On my mom's side - I'm related to Eva Longoria and Momia Juanita (Inca princess). The relation is likely from my maternal grandfather's side, Herbert and Coward of Watsonville - there is a road in Interlaken named after the Cowards (which is not a nickname for "cowardice"). The Herberts left Ireland around 1848 (Revolutions of 1848, Great Potato Famine) after having settled in Roscommon in 1790, starting with a passenger log for Alexander Herbert, who likely fled France at the time of the French Revolution. The Herberts either went to Montreal, Ohio, or westward by being railroad workers. My uncle was also a delegate for Hillary Clinton from Nevada in 2016. My grandma, Burrow and Swale, on my mom's side was from England and served as a plotter (data analysis and air traffic control) for the Royal Air Force during the Second World War. On my dad's side, I'm related to Osman I of the Ottoman dynasty (implies, all of the Sultans of the Ottoman Empire), King Somerled of Argyll (major progenitor in Scottish and English royalty), Sir Francis Drake (goes back to Earl of Hereford), Prince Mikolaj Radziwill of the Radziwill dynasty (implies ties to Habsburg dynasty), Sir David Hume (Scottish royalty), Max Von Sydow, Tom Hanks (related to British royalty via 3rd great grandma on his dad's side, Sarah Tandy of Kentucky), Benjamin Netanyahu, Anderson Cooper (Vanderbilts), and King Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands (Dutch royalty and Portuguese royalty have been closely tied historically). All of which, except Netanyahu, support the claim of descent from the Sudeley-Boteler line (Thomas le Boteler, 4th Lord Sudeley) of Norman French royalty that was in England before leaving for Portugal in the 14th century (John de Sudley, Frederick Sudley)...my lineal grandfather, 9 back, is Pedro Pais Sodre who is buried in the habit of St. Francis Xavier, which is a record with the Catholic Church. They were known in Portugal as descendants from the Earl of Hereford, Ralph the Timid (nickname for a loss in battle), and related to St. Edward the Confessor and King Ethelred 'the Unready' (which means 'poorly advised') as a result. The Sudeleys were also prominent benefactors to the Knights Templar. Isabel Sodre is the mother of Vasco Da Gama, whose uncles were Bras and Vincente Sodre who traveled with da Gama to Goa, India when St. Francis was there. Sodre's son was Manuel Lobao Botelho who married into House of Aviz, which is consistent with the presence of Antonio, the Prior of Crato, in the Azores as the last claimant to the crown of Portugal from the House of Aviz before crown of Portugal passed to the House of Austria (Habsburg dynasty). Botelho's son was Francis Joseph Xavier - the name Xavier is likely the result of identifying with the Lancastrians of England (ex, Jorge de Lancastre, Duke of Coimbra) through descent from Queen Philippa of Lancaster (John de Sudley went to Portugal with Queen Philippa as part of her retinue)...whose fourth son, Henry the Navigator, was closely tied with Gonzalo Vaz Botelho (ancestor to the Botelho's of Portugal). Xavier is also the name of a castle in Navarre, Xavier Castle - which means 'the new house.' There continue to be a line of Xavier-Botelho's in Portugal who received titles of royalty from Philip IV of Spain...which probably explains why Botelho was dropped from the name of Francis Joseph Xavier--to get titles from Philip IV, they would have had to pledge loyalty to Philip IV and *not* Antonio, the Prior of Crato. The DNA matches are also limited to who has DNA available for comparison - this amount of ancestry would make me a distant nephew to Queen Elizabeth II and King Charles III via Joan (Botiler) Belknap, daughter of Thomas le Boteler, 4th Lord Sudeley, and mother of John Belknap who became Joao de Resende Sodre in Portugal by marriage to Maria Sodre, daughter of Frederick Sudley, and by changing his name--the name Belknap was attainted because of the Peasants Revolt of 1381 until after the death of John's father, Sir Hamon Belknap, when the attainder was revoked--with the help the Lisbon customs clerk, Fernao Sodre...in what appears to have been to preserve the male line of Sodres in Portugal. Albeit, the relation to current British Royalty is likely by *half* and through the unknown mistress of King John, Clementina, and the cadet branches that warred with each other, ex, the Mortimers. The title of Sudeley was seized from Ralph le Boteler, Baron Sudeley, by Richard III who also had seized Sudeley Castle from Edward IV who had first taken the castle from Ralph le Boteler. Baron Sudeley is believed to have been a witness to the execution of Joan of Arc. Ralph's son, Sir Thomas Butler, married Eleanor Talbot - aka, the 'Holy Harlot,' whom Richard III alleged had had a pre-contract of marriage to Edward IV, which invalidated the sons of Edward IV and Elizabeth Woodville as heirs to the monarchy...who were infamously locked up in the tower by their uncle, Richard III. John Belknap was declared dead in England in 1436 by a council acting on behalf of the boy-king, Henry VI--in what was a power struggle for land in the context of the Wars of the Roses. POINT BEING - I have wanted to know if my results are indicative of royal line that is potentially still current and relevant (capable of inheriting titles) in England....it would help by comparing results of matches to royals and celebrities with other people.
It's expensive and when you go to order it you have to keep making it more expensive and honestly...the Advanced Timeline seems repetitive yet inaccurate. Like a PC of Indian gene that keeps showing up as a "precise" relative every 3 generations....
Again, I'm not a fan of their test and I'm skeptical of their results because most DNA tests do not have a large enough reference population to identify US Native American DNA. Their ads are awesome but reasons I mentioned in the video still stand.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics sorry, I meant Punjabi Indian plus a bunch of us are find Han Chinese, Punjabi Indian, and Peruvian and Columbian...could the Han be from a deep dive into maybe Native American? If you have an email I can send you my results from CRI, Ancestry, and 23 and Me. If you want to look at it and compare to see if you can make sense just don't publish my real name lol
Unfortunately, Ancestry no longer reports trace ancestry. That is, if you have less than 2% Japanese and the rest is north European, their report will not include the Japanese. I have through extrapolation of other relative's DNA reports that we are definitely descended from Native Americans. But I didn't get my Ancestry DNA kit until after they changed their policy and stopped with the trace reports so it shows no native American blood. They don't think it's a good idea. I have traced a paper trail for over 20,000 ancestors with several thousand in America and the rest almost all in Europe going back over 1500 years. I have been working on this since 1976 and have had the help of many family members. And while Ancestry's DNA data base may be the most extensive it may not mean it is the most accurate. My report says I can be anywhere from 10-25% English, 10-43% Irish, 12-27% Scottish and 0-5% Norwegian. If you do the math that only shows that it can add up to as much as 100% of the above. This means it could be missing as much as 68% of my dna pie chart. Basically they are saying "we're not quite sure what you are but here is our best guess." Now I can't say if it is more or less accurate than the others but it is no where near as accurate as it should be. But I do understand the reasons. As for native American, it would be useful if they told me that I may have some native American dna to confirm what I have on paper. But keeping silent is not useful. I'm not sure why the change. So to get this I would have to go to other services. It should also show about 1.5% Spanish because I can trace back on paper to about 20 conquistadors in Florida 1565-1735. It shows no Spanish. It should show about 1.5% Spanish for me but it shows none at all. Had I taken this test about a year ago like I should have it most likely would have shown at least some Spanish. It does not today. Other's might. I disagree with this video concerning the usefulness of the male line DNA report. While I can trace back some female lines to the late Roman period I can only go back to about 1630 in my male line. Prior to that there is no record that has yet been found about that ancestor's parents. While not terribly rare, my surname is also not exceedingly common. There are about 13,000 males living in the U.K. with my surname. I have found approximately 27 separate haplogroups represented by that surname thus far. There are probably more. Assuming my haplogroup is about as common as any other with that surname, That means I should have somewhere between 100 and 2000 distant male cousins with the same last name. I have a database of thousands of records of people in England going back 700 years with my surname. I also have a really good idea where we came from. The town my ancestor settled in, in Massachusetts was settled almost entirely by people from the same county in England. By knowing my haplogroup, I can exclude at least 26 categories of people from other haplogroups as my distant cousins and focus on those who belong to the same haplogroup. While they should be spread around quite a bit, most are probably in the U.S., I might be able to confirm the county of origin for my male line. The interesting part is that the county in question has a higher percentage of persons with my surname than any other county in the U.K. indicating a fairly good chance that is in fact our county of origin. The county is relatively small by population. So while there are no guarantees or promises of any kind, knowing my haplogroup brings me all the closer to knowing the origin of my male line. Significant due to the fact that it is the one line I know the least about. This is also significant because about 140 years ago a genealogist traveled to England on behalf of one of my distant cousins for the express purpose of proving that our male line was descended from a relatively famous nobleman who came to England in 1066 with William I. Only problem is that it was based on supposition and not real research. Our name and their name was similar but not spelled or pronounced the same. They also come from a different part of England that my suspected county of origin and most importantly, the person they say my ancestor really is, died and is buried in England and his grave can easily be found whereas our ancestor is buried in Massachusetts where he died and his will was proved proving to me that they can't possibly be the same person. That family, a prominent one in their county, has had their haplogroup identified. If I am not of the same haplogroup then either it is as I suspected or someone in my male line cheated. I know that could not be between 1730 and today because I have seen a painting of my ancestor from 1730 and he looks just like my father's father. it is possible that someone cheated between 1630 and 1730 so I will need confirmation from a couple of distant male cousins from the same documented lined and I happen to have gotten in touch with two and they have agreed to take the test with me. So bottom line, the male line haplogroup is useful in proving that line or possibly in my case, disproving it. We are all waiting for our test kits and then by March we should know something. I think the female line would also be interesting to know. I am expecting it to show an Irish haplogroup but I would be interesting in seeing if that is true. I'm also going to take additional DNA tests through other companies both to compare results and to see how many additional distant cousins I can get in contact with. I will say that not many people out of many thousands that popped up with ancestry's report have replied to my enquiry.
The trace report omission is interesting. Wonder if it is the reason why one can have a genetic match on Ancestry but with no shared ethnicity as per the Ancestry report. This leaves one baffled to say the least. Thanks for your contribution.
First, we have to define Native American. This could be Canadian, US, Central or South American Natives. No database has US native tribes in their control group (reference population). Second, the ethnicity results are estimates. The worldwide refence populations are extremely small, so NO test will be accurate. ua-cam.com/video/ScZtHuU78n4/v-deo.html Third, for trace ancestry, I think much of it is typically inaccurate, so I'm glad Ancestry removed that
WHEN ANCESTRY GENEOLOGY ANY OF THOSE STARTED HAPPENING.( I WAS EXCITED.) WANTED TO KNOW MORE. SO I TYPED MY FAMILY NAME ECT. AND THERE IS MY SISTER WHO GAVE FALSE INFO. SHE SAID SHE'S THE ONLY CHILD FROM MOM AND DAD. SHE WAS 3RD CHILD OUT OF 4. IT MADE ME FEEL ILL, AND ALL OF US SIBLINGS ARE STILL ALIVE. LIFE GOES ON.
I'm not entirely sure how to respond. Many genealogy companies privatize living people in family trees. So, could that be the reason you're not on the family tree? Because you're living?
@@margaretwilliams2369 SO SORRY DID NOT LOOK AT MY NOTIFICATIONS. MY SISTER KNEW WHAT SHE WAS DOING EVEN SENT LOTS OF PICTURES OF JUST HER. SHE HELP START GENEOLOGY. SHE KNEW WHAT SHE WAS DOING. THANKS MARGARET WILLIAMS.
Check out these videos before discussing the accuracy of the CRI Test:
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I was fine with my report and looking for basic info. Also CRI has some privacy restrictions that made me more comfortable. I did not want my info shared.
23 and Me and Ancestry actively sell people's data, that's one of the big reasons I went for CRI Genetics
After getting identity theft twice, that was the reason I went with CRI. My personal info is very important to protect.
@@stephendavis5481 Me too. But they may change their mind without asking us.
Who are you trying to keep your DNA away from? If you're worried about privacy, please be sure to watch this video about what people can or can not do with your DNA ua-cam.com/video/T9Edt6Vew-c/v-deo.html
Additionally, what good is privacy if you can't download your RAW DNA file? Or, you can't do anything with the DNA results to ensure that the results you're getting are valuable?
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics you’re really selling me on the item your reviewing especially since you haven’t even used it which is usually someone does when doing a review. Instead you should have done a 23 and me and ancestry review instead.
A couple BIG differences, CRI is run by an actual scientist and they aren't partnered with any data companies. 23 and Me, Ancestry and nearly all of the others actively sell your info
People don’t care though.
UA-cam/Google also sells your data. CRI has no genealogical relavant tools to help people in the hobby. If you want to buy it to get another ethnicity test, by all means do that.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Indeed social media and Google sell all our info to big marketing companies etc. But DNA is way more important than my search history 😂
In this age who cares. It's not like the government and Google or your device doesn't know what underwear you are wearing
Did you think of trying MyHeritage in comparison?
CRI this the best. They knew the tribe of Indian I was from. 23&me didn't ancestry DNA couldn't.. CRI have there own private labs. The other ones use 3rd party labs. CRI goes back farther. I am happy with CRI.
Be happy with them. I will agree stand by my opinion that they are not valuable to serious genetic genealogists.
The quality of any genetic genealogy company is the ability to do DNA matching and having large sample sizes to compare our DNA to. CRI genetics has neither.
I was not interested in matching so I’ve been really happy with my CRI report. The one and only thing that I am a little irked about is that there are many reports that I am having to pay more for now. But on the other hand almost every few months a new report pops in for free too.
It’s all very fascinating and their videos were well done. At least it explains how we might have genes that say we are likely to be allergic to peanuts but we don’t experience the symptoms
Wow. If only I had watched this first before dropping $220 with CRI.
Sorry. Their advertisements are pretty awesome. I can understand why you were tempted to purchase the tests.
HAHAHA I paid for the test of my full brother too. For the rest of my family we will probably go with one of the others though. I was hoping to build family tree info. Well my brother is the test subject. :-) Since I am female I made him take the test to get the deep ancestry paternal and Maternal line at least. lol
Me too!!!!
Ugh same here!
Sounds like he is promoting 23and Me and bashing cri without accurate knowledge and experience with cri. Based on knowledge suffering the web which might not be accurate info as well
It makes me kind of sad that, as the capitalist I am (sort of), that you are taking business away from this company. They are not perfect, but it is a perfectly respectable company. The company never promises anything other than what it delivers. Some of the people I'm reading comments from seem to expect things not offered and others seem to think that because their tree goes back to a certain county for 2 or 300 years that they are purely genetically from that country. We know that is impossible. I agree that the company's timeline is "off" for number of generations. Some people seem to expect the impossible. My suggestion is for people to do a family tree before they try to say they are "pure" anything. When I did mine I found people from places I never suspected. I always assumed and I was wrong. When I did my DNA with Ancestry I verified many findings in my family tree. Family "word of mouth" is never accurate.
You’re 110% CORRECT! Thanks for your input in this discussion!
I agree that building a tree with DNA matches and genealogical records is the way to go. I made this video to advise genetic genealogy researchers that this company wouldn't help them do that.
I've done ancestry DNA, but still will do the cri test. Purely out of curiosity on the accuracy.
Good, you are going into it with the right attitude.
Please post if your CRI matches the Ancestry.com results. In my case the CRI were totally opposite of my Ancestry.com and national geographic results. It's like I'm a totally different person with CRI.
@@Flametree1492 same thing with my results.
I have done four tests on my DNA three years ago through CRI Genetics and I am very pleased with the results. I received the results in six weeks. The recent DNA test that goes back 500 years was 100% accurate. My parents told me when I was young about our family history who they were and where they came from. My advanced test was a complete surprise but when I started studying the map and the history where all my ancestors came from, it all came together how this population survived and moved on to different places. I am happy with my results.
Should a serious genealogist take the CRI Genetics test - Absolutely - especially if they want to break down some brick walls within their autosomal ancestors within the last 500 years. Their results show segments on chromosomes in a an autosomal way (and not just straight paternal or maternal lines. If you have some unique ancestry (such as Native American) that is not picked up by the big box DNA companies (Ancestry, MyHeritage, FTDNA or may have been on your 23andMe report but now has disappeared then definitely yes because they look at your entire autosome and pull together the smaller segments that you see in Gedmatch. They also give you a timeline that reports on segments they found for say Native American and give you a "number" on a particular chromosome that you can then go on DNA painting and plot where that segment is and if you have already painted that segment with say one of your 16 GG Grand parental familes. It has been a "huge" help and I think you should re-evaluate your thinking on them.
CRI Genetics test has nothing that would help a genealogist.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Wrong - if you are into DNA painting of your ancestors on their respective chromosomes and segments the timeline with the "start" numbers at least helps to identify where (for Instance) your native American ancestry may be and on which family line it may be on.
@@davidirwin1549 EXACTLY. Our family has Chactaw Indian in our bloodline and 23 and Me didn't even pick it up. I'm taking CRI to see if it will show the Chactaw Indian.
This dude is paid to shit on CRI apparently lol
Hi guys! I'm tyring to figure out what's the best and clear DNA ancestry kit is? Can someone please suggest a good kit? Preferably which countries my ancestors are from?
I want to know too
Depends on what you're interested in. If you just want to know what countries, any of them will do. If you're doing family trees Ancestry is best. If you're not doing a tree, maybe 23andMe.
@@jjbud3124 Thanks!
If you don't know anything about where your ancestors are from.
1. Begin doing traditional genealogy research
2. Take a DNA test with matching capabilities.
3. Ignore ethnicity estimates until you need clues to continue your research for #1 and #2.
There are no quick answers to where your ancestors are from. Anyone telling you other wise is selling you something. I'm just a guy on YT sharing with you a free video to watch.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Thanks!
Just wanted to touch on the bit of CRI not being anymore accurate than 23andMe. I did both, first 23 and then just recently CRI, with 23andMe the results were a bit more broad, for example they told me 99% Eastern European, for a while they didn't specify which countries they meant by Eastern European. I had emailed them and asked for something more specific. What happened? they gave me a survey to answer where my parents and grandparents were born, when they updated it, it showed two countries one "highly likely match" the other "also likely match". This didn't build much confidence in their methods, especially because it seemed to me they needed me to answer a survey first and then let me hear what I wanted to hear.
CRI never sent any survey to check where I was born or my parents or grandparents, they took my sample and gave a much more detailed breakdown, not just "Eastern European", but a percentage breakdown of which specific European and Slavic groups.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm still not convinced that they have a large enough sample size to offer the ethnicity estimates that they share no matter how much they break it down from the continental level.
I have a question that maybe someone anyone can help me with. I have no idea who my parents are and I would really like to know. What can I do or would taking a DNA text help me with finding my relatives are and if so what is the test called? I would really really appreciate any advice or suggestions. Thank you so much.
Taking a DNA test can help. I have a series that you'll want to watch that walks you through the steps for researching situations similar to yours. ua-cam.com/play/PLcVx-GSCjcdk1GsAs9NfLWKvACcjE3Afg.html
Ancestry's test will definately help you if any biological family members have tested. May even help you find your birth parents. There have been stories about testers finding out deep root history.
The recent ancestry report covers 5 generations and the advanced ancestry report covers generations 6 and back. So you would need to combine, then divide the percentage sin each to get a sense of how it compares to other companies. It took me time to realize that, so it actually is not that far off from my testing elsewhere. Because I do have unknown ancestors in the past five generations, the recent report is giving me some clues that will help me in my family history research. What is suspect to me is the maternal mitochondrial haplogroup. They provided it, even though I did not pay for the separate fee. It is very different from my test results with 23andme. Will have to determine why.
I'm glad you were able to find some clues. I think you would be better off doing testing with companies that have DNA Matching than just ethnicity estimates.
Could you tell us how it was different from your 23 and me results please
I think CRI was a great starting point. I do have doubts about the accuracy but it opened up the possibility that I might have some asian genetics that I never would have considered. My report showed my scandiavian heritage much smaller than I thought is was. I don't understand how this is possible, so if anyone wants to explain that, please do. I agree with the conversations that discusses how paying extra for the haplogroups may not be worth it. Also I don't think paying for the famous relative report is worth it.
Watch our videos about DNA + Ethnicity. It should help you understand why the percentages are different. ua-cam.com/play/PLcVx-GSCjcdlvwsLScE4NPKwGA-XUNhhM.html
My grandma took the CRI Genetics test, and it said she was 57% Italian, which is completely accurate, but it also said she was 12.6% Chinese. So idk if that is bull crap or not…
I did a rest with CRI genetics. I kind of don’t know how to feel or if i can trust my results
The way to build trust in their results would be to download your RAW DNA and import that into other companies. Unfortunately, CRI Genetics doesn't allow this option.
The results I obtained recently from the Ancestry DNA Test were different from the My Heritage DNA Test I did a few years ago. It certainly makes me wonder about the validity of these tests.
Ethnicity results always have been and always will be estimates. No company can claim to be more accurate than another because there is no common standard by which accuracy is measured for these tests.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics that is good to know, since CRI said that I was 14% Italian, yet my brother's very detailed family tree had no Italian in there at all. It is English, Irish, Scottish, and Dutch, with a small possibility of Native American. The rest of their info did fit with the family tree. I will always wonder what the 14% Italian might have really been, though.
@@peneljsmith CRI said I was 30% Italian and 55% EUROPEAN. And 45% Indian/Pakistani
But 23&Me says I’m 100% North Indian/Pakistani. Which makes more sense
@@Heraclanthes I got mine redone by My Heritage, and then uploaded to a few other sites, and I got odd results from all. Not the Italian, but West Asia and eastern European, Siberian, Chinese, and things like that. Put together, they might be Native American, but nobody says that. I am even more confused now.
@@peneljsmith Try 23&Me. The results will likely be more accurate since they use proper reference populations and have a larger database.
Glad I saw this they did a "wait you a winner here's 15% off this item if you add it now" after checking out. I canceled so fast and gona go to another one and save the extra 100$ thanks for uploading this
Glad I could help.
Which do you feel is better 23 and me or ancestry and what would be the difference
Here's a playlist of my company comparisons over time. ua-cam.com/play/PLcVx-GSCjcdnC5BoGUTCA_WcK2-RwDxOP.html
My CRI generics said I was 44% German where’s my Ancestry report showed zero German. Can you help explain this? Thank you.
Each company uses a different reference population set. So their ethnicity results are going to be different.
They were closer to being right than the other two DNA I took.
have you built a family tree to prove that statement? My wife has 5 different results from 5 other DNA companies and they can't agree. She's built out her family tree as far as records currently allow. No one company is closer to being right (and CRI genetics wouldn't be any different).
I took this test with my family, and we are all so confused. My dad got 20% german, i expected at least some but I got 0% german. IS that possible? He also got only 2.3% dutch but I got a whole 11.6% dutch, my mums mostly asian but she still didnt get any dutch. So where did I get all this Dutch DNA from? We also got the health report which they havent provided. My mum got 69.9% asian (indian, sri lankanan type area) and my father got 100% european. So I thought I would be about 40-50 percent european, but im only 34.3. But I am 65.7% asian. Is it possible for my mum and I to be so close? We are really confused.
Please watch the series of videos we have made explaining genetic inheritance and the ethnicity results. ua-cam.com/play/PLcVx-GSCjcdlvwsLScE4NPKwGA-XUNhhM.html
Then, I suggest you switch your approach to genetic genealogy. You should be using it to help extend or build your family tree. Begin by building a family tree with what you know. ua-cam.com/video/Fx2Tff-R-yI/v-deo.html
Then, use DNA matching to extend that information.
DNA ( ethnicity inheritance) is random.. You never get an "even" amount from your parents... siblings can differ as well, identical twins will still have different percentages
I was very disappointed in CRI. I am the product of over 200 years of appalachian inbreeding (cousin to cousin marriages) , and know who my ancestors are and where they came from going back over 200 years, they missed that mark totally. The health portion says low risk of rheumatiod arthritis - have had it for years, and other issues with the testing . It looks like they tested someone else. Wish had seen this video first.
Sorry we weren't there before you tested. I hope you test with a genetic genealogy company with a tree building feature. You might not discover anything new, but if you have a documented tree, you can help others build theirs.
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Wished I had watched this before getting their kit. I assumed I purchased the raw data that was used in their determination of my ancestry. But apparently not. I just got a map of where they claimed my ancestors oriented and generic information about those geographic area. Extremely disappointed.
Sorry. I wish I had this out earlier. But, I focus on genetic genealogy research so it wasn't really on my radar until viewers put it there.
I wish I would have seen this before I ordered also 😔 I just got my kit in the mail.
Then which test would be best? I’m looking to see the lands traveled throughout last few generations. I was also hoping you could help me with something. I don’t know how much the blood or the DNA plays a role in this compared to a genealogy or my last name or if they work in Harmony with one another the problem I have, though is the last name on my birth certificate is actually no relation to me, my father passed away before I was born and so my mother is married. Name is what I got. She was not married to my father. I guess she didn’t realize that she could still give me his last name. How do I make sure I get the right genealogy.
Great presentation, as always! You’re the best! 💯🍃🌷
Wow, thank you!
I concur! I keep getting emails from CRI and I know you are so very thorough in your research! Thank you for your video!!!
I had mine done by CRI just after new year 2022, and as far as I know I still cannot download nor share my data, thanks for your input Brother
I doubt they will offer that functionality. It's a shame.
I have used both cri genetics and ancestry. Ancestry has changed my ethnicity to some wild stuff. Weird because my sons dont show those things . By ancestry I’m almost 50% Portuguese. We have a great great grandfather that had a mostly Portuguese surname. Silva. But at the beginning ancestry wasn’t like that.At the beginning, 34% italian . Which made some sense. To 0%. Which didn’t make sense. Cri genetics still shows the italian. From rome my mom used to say. I never tell anyone to used ancestry for ethnicities. But for relatives it is fine. I like that you down play the male and female groups. Because ancestry did that many years ago. But still interesting. If i had to pick one over another for ethnicities, that would be cri genetics. Not ancestry. But for seeing relatives, ancestry is good.
The wild swings are due to the reference populations for Portugal is that there are fewer than 1,000 persons in the reference population that you're DNA is compared to. I know this will continue to swing if they increase the number of persons in that group, and others. www.ancestrycdn.com/support/us/2021/09/ethnicity2021whitepaper.pdf
CRI Genetics does not provide white papers about their reference populations which makes it hard to determine whether they truly are more accurate or note.
I agree with you about Ancestry. I need to try CRI. Ancestry keep changing what I am lol. My portuguse too. I have Silva in my family too. They are from Azores.
Thanks for this information.
Unfortunately I already purchased CRI kit with the health, and am displeased.
The health came back as inconclusive, however, the offerd a better test for 89.00 more.
Very unhappy with this company.
Thank you! I just ordered this test today. I wanted to compare it to my ancestry and 23andme results. After looking at this videos and several others, I realized that I made a big mistake in ordering this test. I just called the company. I should get my refund in 3 -5 business days. The selling point for me was that the company is offering a 50% discount. When I called to cancel, the customer service representative offered to give me 25% more off the cost. I told him that I have read negative reviews from people saying that the results are way off. By the way, I did not have any wait time like others in the comment section. It could be because today is Sunday. Thanks again!
I hope you received your money back. I advise against the test not so much because of their accuracy or inaccuracy of their ethnicity results. I advise against it as it offers no genetic genealogy research advantages and you can't download your RAW DNA.
I purchased all of CRI's tests a few months ago. I was confused about the difference between the "recent" and "advanced" ancestry analyses. I still am. I think your guess is clearly wrong. The information that was offered to me in the "advanced analysis" and the "advanced timeline" could not possibly have come from the two haplogroup tests. It seems to me they are looking for clusters of genes that came from specific individuals.
For example, four generations back, CRI says with 99% confidence, that it has identified four individual ancestors, who are, respectively, N.W. European, Colombian, British Isles, and Northern European. These are said to be based, respectively, on chromosomes 8, 11, 11, and 20.
The most distant ancestors identified were a Peruvian from 71 generations ago (90% accurate, chromosome 6), and a N.W. European from 76 generations back (chromosome 6, 99% accurate). This info clearly is not based on male and female haplogroups.
There are actually some irreconcilable differences between the recent and advanced analyses. Example: The recent analysis says I'm 5% Kinh Vietnamese, while the advanced analysis says instead that I'm 5% South Asian. The advanced analysis also has about 4% Latin American ancestry, which is missing entirely from the recent ancestry.
I would be extremely skeptical in any ethnicity results that are outside of England, Wales and Scotland. Few genetic genealogy companies have large enough reference populations to confirm the percentages you are quoting for the regions you are naming.
what i found strange was that the Recent Analysis (5 generations) said 100% European but the Advanced Timeline said 5 generations back Southern Han Chinese with 99% accuracy and 6 generations back Punjabi with 99% accuracy. It seems rather strange that I can be 100% European at the same time I have Southern Han Chinese and Punjabi. Also, they are saying that the Southern Han Chinese was about 1875 and I have all my branches back at least that far and they are all of European origin.
With the small reference populations for all DNA testing companies that offer ethnicity estimates, the results are all over the place. However, CRI genetics doesn't offer enough insight into their reference set for me to pursue them further.
Welcome to the club...Indian and Han...do you have some random Peruvian and Colombian too?
@@bartonbella3131 yes 😮
@@bartonbella3131 columbian, peruvian, puerto rican,mexican, tamil,.japanese, korean, ..all of which sounds a little odd for someone showing as 100% European..
I, unfortunately just found this video after placing an order for my adopted son. If we're using this for purely ethnic and medical information, not to locate family, do you feel that I've made a big mistake for him? He has a diverse ethnic and racial background, and that's the part we're interested in. I'd appreciate your input.
Yes I do think it is a mistake, It will not provide people that are close family
@@tedperkoski7534 That's not what they said they wanted. They do NOT want to find close family. They want to find ethnicity.
The company does provide ethnicity and medical information. However, 23andMe is cheaper AND you get additional benefits that adoptees need when building their family tree - the possibility of connecting with close relatives. Not necessarily for the relationship, but for the knowledge of health factors that DNA tests can't always provide.
SOOO GLAD I SAW THIS!! GOT A FULL REFUND AND GOING TO 23 AND ME!!
Awesome
Hi Anthony. Could you please explain why did you get the refund? you were not happy with the results? I am looking about these test. I would appreciate your help
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If you haven't done the 23 and Me yet, you may want to consider the fact that they will sell your genetic data - and technically not only yours, because all your nearest relatives share quite a bit of your dna.
@@EyeLean5280 do you know what exactly they do with that data ?
my grandma and her second cousin(male) share a common male ancestor. shouldn't they have the same paternal haplogroup.
grandmother-------------------------> father(W McKenzie)------->grandfather(N McKenzie)----->GGF(James McKenzie)
2nd cousin(McKenzie)---------->father(F MCKENZIE)------->grandfather(A McKenzie)----->GGF(James McKenzie)
Wouldn't the DNA test results show that they have the same paternal haplogroup.
I apologize in advance if this is a stupid question
Yes (if they are only descended from the male lines). Although you can only test the male cousin. Your grandma's paternal haplogroup is inferred.
Could you add a link to the companies that you can get the extended review for traits and so on
I don't really focus on this on my channel. We focus on tree building. However, here's a fun video about what traits are inherited through DNA ua-cam.com/video/UwfOzWJax_A/v-deo.html
I'm truly not impressed with CRI genetics, 14 months ago I took one of their DNA test kits, I have yet to receive an advanced timeline. After emailing them, I was told it required at minimum 80% DNA accuracy (no idea what level of accuracy was used to compile my other reports, and the results seemed very off from what I knew of my family line) and that my DNA would be reprocessed to make a report and to expect it to take 2-4 weeks. Despite the strange findings in the areas I believe I knew of my family I was open to the science behind the findings but I question the quality, and have yet to receive results. The time frame they requested has passed and I have reached out to them again. I have recently followed up with a report from ancestry, and hope to have answers soon
Thanks for sharing your experience with their service. I wish you had found my video before spending money.
What is your opinion of Living DNA? Have you tried it? How it ranks among all other companies? Thanks!
Have you seen this video ua-cam.com/video/En52MNjfDfk/v-deo.html
Welp, I saw this a little to late, but, as I just sent out the test, I am willing to provide updated information to you guys on how CRI is doing things. And I got the health and ancestry one, paid $107 total after tax and what not.
Let me know how it goes, my results felt a bit off
You can share but without the key features for genetic genealogy as I discussed in this video, I doubt I'll change my views.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics , honestly, I can see why you didn't go with them. I got the health and genetics pack, thinking I'd be able to see my mom's side of the family. Nope! Locked behind credits that cost $20 for one credit, or $200 for 10
Wow, so glad I watched this! Clear, concise, and great info.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Because Barb is a regular viewer of this channel, unlike yourself. She respects my advice on how best to allocate her research dollars to build her family tree. I've earned her trust through my other videos to steer her in the right direction. That's why his opinion has value.
Perhaps you could try binge watching my other company reviews and genetic genealogy research training?
My results were identical to CRI Genetics' sample images. Looks like a scam to me for sure. Requesting a full refund or else I'll go to my credit card company and dispute it, and report them to the BBB.
Did you end up getting a refund?
@@andrealanderos2106 Yes. They didn't seem to want to until I reported them to the BBB. I received an email saying that "sometimes DNA results are confusing. We're now considering this case closed." So I went to the Better Business Bureau. They were very apologetic after that, and ended up issuing a full refund.
I'm glad you were able to receive a refund. If you're displeased, please file a complaint with the BBB but be very specific what you don't like. People often threaten but they aren't specific in what they didn't like in their transaction.
I noticed that too....maybe we should class action
@@bartonbella3131 As stated above, I got a full refund (after reporting to the BBB), so I am satisfied.
I used CRI and I found it very useful. I gave also sent my kit, 23andme, so I'll see what that comes out with.
23&me gives more detailed information.
Thanks for sharing your review, however, define useful. I never said the test wouldn't give you information. I dislike the inability to download your RAW DNA so you can transfer it to other companies to get even more useful information. Plus, it's lacking useful information on DNA matching. Without that, the ethnicity results are not helpful in understanding your heritage.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics so I’m curious which DNA test kit do you like the best that had the most accurate results? I know CRI is down to 69 dollars right now for the heritage and traits kit and the heritage and health kit is 99. I’m just curious as to which one you think is best cause I have the money put aside just haven’t ordered one yet.
So.... I watched this video, called the company for a refund (made the purchase the day before), I was placed on a 20 minute hold before my refund could be process to ensure the warehouse knew the order was cancelled. But I got my money back!
Same here- 20 minute wait times over the course of the week... and still trying to read their sales script to convince me to change my mind.
WAY easier than the others, CRI is the only one with a money-back guarantee. The others will make you pull your hair out after they sell all your data
I'm glad you received a refund if CRI wasn't offering you want you hoped to receive.
Yeah I climbed the family tree...turns out mine was only a stump. I was traced to the first cave people. I should gave known looking at some of my relatives by the way they have hairy backs and are still dragging their knuckles on the ground.
Ok
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My mom ordered a CRI genetics DNA test for my family and we took it. A complaint I have is that for the "recent analysis" section it says I am 11% Peruvian but when I click on it it says undefined. Then I look at "advanced analysis" it says 47% Peruvian. Is it 47% undefined? I am so confused lol
Yep. I can understand why you're confused. It's my understanding that CRI doesn't have a large enough sample for Peru to give you enough details. This isn't surprising since Peru, like most South American countries, is a mix of cultured that immigrated into the area in the last 1,000 years. As such, your ethnicity results should have a wide range of ethnicities, unless you are direct descendants a few generations back from Perusivan natives. Even then, I would still be skeptical. Few databases have a large enough reference population of natives from South America to provide you conclusive evidence.
Sadly, I wish you would have avoided testing with CRI genetics (or any company) for ethnicity results. Instead, I wish you would have tested with the major genetic genealogy research companies because once the novelty of the ethnicity results wore off, you could work on building your family tree using DNA matches.
I did the test and had my dad do one (I'm female) because I got a 'special' and wanted to see how it compared to the other 2 I did and I was very interested in the 'other stuff' (reports based on your genome, having to do with traits, nutrition, wellness, etc). The ancestry stuff was pretty much in line with the others and a little more detail the others didn't have that matches what I have been finding, so I was pretty happy with that. A few of the reports were very interesting and informative to me, but out of the 52 I ended up with, about a third were totally worthless, said 'inconclusive', and about a third were just dumb, does your urine smell like asparagus, do you have freckles, are your eyes brown or blue, stuff you obviously already know, or just don't care about, seriously, does your urine smell like asparagus, give me a break. So while I was happy with the initial purchase, the yearly subscription is a scam. I did the subscription the first time (again, only because it was a 'special' price, normal is $100 + tax). They give you some of the reports up front and then try to hook you into the VIP subscription with the promise of all these fabulous reports you will have be able to get. They give you monthly credits with which you can 'purchase' additional reports, which they say will be produced monthly. They are not. There were hardly any new reports and the few that I did get, 90% said inconclusive, totally worthless, don't fall for the subscription.
Thanks Kym for the review. I haven't wanted to get one from CRI even with the specials so I like to hear what actual customers have to say.
Amen! You were so eloquent in your detail of all the falsely represented reports and details that CRI was going to provide! I just want to tag-team with you and add to my comment: “Please refer to additional details via comment below.”
CRI puts on a good advertising show but, it’s like buying snake oil in the old west!!
This aged horrible they have a ton of stuff now
I did CRI, and it doesn't come close to matching my 23&me, Ancestry, and My Heritage results. Also, they have several of the wrong flags for different countries. It is such a basic mistake, and is highly disappointing.
Also, you have to pay extra to see your haplogroups, and pay a membership fee for updates, whereas 23&me and Ancestry provide that for free.
Thanks for sharing your review. Your experience falls in line with what I anticipated. And the additional cost for haplogroups when the test is already more expensive without the features of other genetic genealogy tests makes it less likely that I would recommend it.
I wish I had seen this report before I got tested by CRI. Even their recent genetics reports were vastly different for me than those from other companies like 23&me and Ancestry. When I tried to understand why this was I got the usual "a genetic report" isn't the same a genealogy from CRI support. This video helped me understand the deep dive better and why some ethnicities appeared to be over represented. Now that I understand how this testing is done I know that it is of no genealogical use to me. Don't get this test unless you just want a conversation starter about your mother's maternal and your father's paternal deep ancestry. I think their ads are misleading as they leave out a lot of information about what you are really getting from them.
The health data is good. It showed me that I had a predisposition to histamine intolerance, which explains lifelong health problems for me.
I don't think the other DNA services dig as deeply into your DNA. For instance, populations in England are mixed - French, Italian, German, Irish, and many others. Those populations have been there for many hundreds of years. If the companies are comparing your DNA to the present/recent population of England (which they claim they do), which has been mixed for what, thousands of years, are they really being accurate when they say you are 50 or 75% English? In the past, I've done a lot of family tree work and some trees took me back to Italy, but way, way back over 1000 years. Who knows if it was completely accurate, but when you find a tree that goes back that far, it means that most probably it has been fairly thoroughly researched because it was a prominent family. When CRI gave me a percentage of Italian, I was a bit surprised, but not totally. Most of my ancestors can be traced back to England, Ireland, and Scotland, and the family has always been certain we were 100% from that region. Family history and assumptions are wrong more than many people would like to admit. It turns out I have way more German DNA than I ever thought, but, again, there have been many people of German descent in England for more than 1000 years. Then, in my family tree I have come across quite a few Dutch ancestors (German?). I doubt any of the DNA services are 100% accurate, but I like that CRI gives you the actual genes that link you to a population with the same genes as you from many generations in the past. For instance, I have the same gene that the Italian centenarians have, also the Chinese centenarians have the same gene. CRI has links to scientific studies that back up their findings.
I agree 100%
Mine was a similar experience with them. Their results are limited and proved unuseful to me for familial tracing.
Sorry I didn't get the video out before you tested with them. But you're right, don't take ANY genetic genealogy test for ethnicity results until you understand the analysis behind them.
CRI Genetics has superior privacy. That’s why I went with them instead. They cannot sell your information. Those ~other~companies can… and DO! I believe selling that kind of info without consent is ethically corrupt. I feel much safer with CRI.
If privacy is your concern, then CRI genetics could be fine for you. For genetic genealogy research, your DNA has to be shared with other researchers to validate the ethnicity results. CRI Genetics does not offer DNA matching so their results are suspect at best.
CRI said I had an ancestor from Great Britain and one from India in 1875. My entire family lived in Italy as far back as I know and I’ve done research. This was the biggest waste of $240 I ever spent in my life.!
I have done five DNA tests, and several have been VERY useful to my genealogical research. CRI was not merely an anomaly, it was bogus beyond my imagination. My genealogy work has been (for the most part) easy and straightforward because my family came from England and Scotland and settled in Virginia in the 1600s; then they never left. Over 90% of my ancestors fit that description -- four centuries, ten to fourteen generations. Furthermore, for the last 250+ years (five to seven generations), they have been in a small, isolated, rural region of southern Virginia. It is not an exciting family history compared to most Americans, but it really makes genealogical work easy. My DNA tests from various companies have been relatively similar and have reflected this Celtic and Anglo-Saxon (Northwestern European) background. But CRI gave me a very exotic background that defied history -- not merely my family history, but the history of North America. They gave me, among other impossibilities, a Peruvian and a Punjabi ancestor within the last five generations. Really? A Punjabi or a Peruvian (what, an Inca?) in an isolated, rural farm community in nowhere, Virginia in the 19th or early 20th Century? Why not a Sami or an Inuit? That would be equally as probable. CRI only estimated 25% of my ancestry from the British Isles (CRI combines Celtic and Anglo-Saxon ethnic groupings, which few other DNA testers do). Yep, that's 25% when I know that almost all of my ancestors came from the British Isles. How about it CRI? I think I'll believe all the other DNA companies that estimated ca. 90% from England and the Celtic countries -- a reflection of my actual family history. Would I recommend CRI to anyone for any reason? What do you think?
I had the same experience with CRI. They stated results that do not match my known history and the complete opposite of my previous DNA test! I submitted to CRI to basically confirm the previous 3 DNA test I took. The CRI results was basically of someone that is not me?
You are missing the fact that your ancestors thousands of years ago travelled. You might think your family is from England and Scotland, but you do realize that England was settled thousands of years ago by people from Turkey and many other populations from other parts of the eastern and possibly Western hemisphere? You might have many ancestors from another part of the world who migrated to and then stayed in the British Isles and over the centuries they became Scottish and English and stayed closely related. To make it even more confusing, many English people were originally Germanic. We are all a big mish mash from many places in the world.
Jamestown gang?
@@jjbud3124 I'm very much aware of human migrations throughout history. Perhaps it's the terminology use? Example; Peru or Puerto Rico did not exist in the 1400s neither did Italy or Germany yet it states German and Italian are in my DNA! I know as a fact there is no German or Italian in my ancestry. There was no major German nor Italian migration to America until the 1800s. I have trace my ancestry to the 1600s Caribbean and Florida, my people have lived in America before Anglo-Saxon or German migration, he'll before there was a United States!
@@Flametree1492 I made a long reply then lost it. Grrrr. Anyway, this is what an anthropologist from Brown University says:
Re being 100% of any ethnicity: "In fact it is not even possible mathematically/logically. It is only a matter of how many generations back you go before you necessarily find ancestors from a different ethnicity or racial group, even if your immediate ancestors were all inbred with each other. If you go back far enough all of your ancestors were a different ethnicity, race, and even species from you."
Populations from Europe, America, and Asia are very mixed. Europeans (as far as we know) first visited the Americans 1300 years ago, 600 years ago, 400 years ago, and constantly until this day (and how many times in between I wonder?).
Thanks! I just saw a website where they place CRI Genetics as the best just above 23&me, and Ancestry. Then I became suspicious, because just below “their research” you can buy the CRI kit. Great video! Great information!
I saw the same thing but all 3 had sale kits . So, Why are you so suspicious that don't make sense ? 23 and me also has sale kit after you finished reading and so does Ancestry after their information and at the end is sale kit.
That is exactly how I got suckered into buying a CRI kit.
I’m pretty sure I saw that same website, which brought me to UA-cam and this video LOL. However, I want to find some place that doesn’t sell purchasers DNA to third parties. That seems to be the difficult thing.
I saw that, too. And, it is why I purchased their test instead (my DNA is still being extracted). Just found that same "review" of 3 genetics tests again, and it says right at the top - in very small print - that they are affiliated with CRI Genetics!That is so shady! I feel a bit bamboozled.
Folks are allowed to have their own opinion about constitutes best. I would not even rank CRI genetics as the best genetic genealogy testing company because it doesn't meet the minimum criteria that I talk about in my recent comparison video. ua-cam.com/video/DiZmj-9yybo/v-deo.html
No DNA matches. No ability to download your results or transfer your tests. No collaboration. No it's not the best or even on the list.
I thought I had ordered 23 and me because that's what I had put in the search. I wasn't paying super attention. 100.00 out the window, there isn't really anything that I can use.
Oh no! That's not a great feeling.
My sister did the CRI report. It shows that he is 88 percent white
10 percent Indian
2 percent black.
My sister is black predominantly black 🤔
Watch this video about African ethnicity and DNA testing. As you might have guessed, I'm not a fan of CRI Genetics because it's not a genetic genealogy company - just an ethnicity company. But, I want you to be aware of why all the DNA testing companies struggle with showcasing African heritage. While I don't mention CRI in this video, they do have the same problem as everyone else - a small reference population.
Here's the video I'm mentioning ua-cam.com/video/SFx_AHU__Tw/v-deo.html
Here's a video about reference populations that would also be a good one to watch ua-cam.com/video/ScZtHuU78n4/v-deo.html
You have to look at the advanced timeline lol. 🤭😂 Mine had said I was 72 European and German no way. 🤣
I found CRI Genetics is way off from Ancestry and 23 and Me.
I'm not surprised.
Hi guys I ordered this test on august 13,2021 and I got the results on October 13,2021. It was a really long wait.
My results showed nothing from the country where I was born as well as where my parents and grandparents were born that it was the same country as me.
Three of my generation are from a country that didn’t even show any percentage or anything from my gene.
Also I paid for the related famous people and I never got the results for that.
I emailed them to ask about that and they gave me random answers, they never answered what I asked. I hope that’s not a scam.
If it is not a scam they really makeup the answers about my genes.
If you feel that you were scammed, submit a complaint to the Federal Trade Commission.
As for the ethnicity results not having what you expected, that likely means that the company doesn't have enough persons in their reference population to compare your DNA to. Without a large enough reference population on their end, you could have the ethnicity in your DNA that you believe you have but the persons in their database don't. So the results are inaccurate or inconclusive.
The famous related people thing is basically a scam. Fortunately it's really cheap.
Your "Famous People" will just be some random ppl from a broad haplogroup.... I got the President of UA-cam.. and Edward the 4th and Henry the 3rd...conveniently dead lines....all through the J haplogroup
My famous person was Eva Longoria and Mama Juanita. 😮
Do you think CRI genetics recent ancestry analysis is accurate ?
Nope.
No but the advanced timeline is more accurate.
What are the 3rd party companies that you mention ? I am aware of GedMatch,thats all.
23andMe, MyHeritage, Ancestry, Family Tree DNA, and Living DNA.
I really appreciate your thorough review of CRI… I am so disappointed that I didn’t find it sooner!
I had done an Ancestry DNA test with my daughter sometime ago and found lots of information on mostly my mother’s side of the family… which I knew very well.
My goal was to find out about my father’s side of the family which I know very little about as he was absent from my life. I have bits and pieces of information but, identifying him and his brother’s name got me only that from Ancestry.
CRI was recommended to me by a friend who, hadn’t used them… she found an unknown half-sister via 23 & Me, but, by some advertising Hoop-La of CRI’s sophistication. What a waste of money. I was so upset when I received my reports! Not to mention, most of the reports are quite generic as they then offer you “credits” that you can purchase to use for more specific information… at $50/credit.
I didn’t spend another dime or minute with CRI… I put my tail between my legs; walked away; and didn’t look back. How CRI gets any of the rave reviews about health probabilities and genealogy published on their site is beyond me!! I hope that more have seen your review and won’t suffer the disappointment and generic report results I got. Also, they said that it takes 3-6 weeks for processing your report… I got mine in a week!
Thanks again.
Sorry I couldn't have helped earlier.
I've tested with all the major companies, and CRI is the only one that gave me vastly different results from all the others. Not sure why
I don't have definitive reasons but chances are it all stems from their small reference population size. ua-cam.com/video/ScZtHuU78n4/v-deo.html
You didn't mention the private privacy issues surrounding DNA tests and family research sites
If you put your information online, you need to recognize that privacy can be an issue. Each company does their best, but once anything is online, it's an issue.
I got the test during the height of covid. I'm 89.7 African and I'm pretty sure that's accurate for me.
But what else can you do with that information? Not much. Sadly, you can't build a genetic family tree using DNA matching on CRI Genetics.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Well I was told I had Irish in my family and the test said otherwise. I'm actually British,Finnish, French,Spanish and Italian,Mexican,Peruvian and Colombian 🥴
It sounds to me like CRI’s “Deep Ancestry” results would not provide me any more information than I already have woth my Family Tree DNA Full Sequence mitochondrial DNA test.
That would be correct.
Thanks, Andy, and you, Devon, and family have a blessed, safe, and healthy Christmas!
On this point, the reviewer was engaging in uninformed speculation. He is just plain wrong. The "deep ancestry" results are NOT based on mitochondrial DNA.
They are based on patrilineal and matrilineal DNA which would be from the y-DNA and mt-DNA. What else would it be. There are four DNA test types. I cover three of them in this video. Only two of those can give you deep ancestry ua-cam.com/video/JX6VS_KxdY8/v-deo.html
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics As I explained in my post seven months ago, each ancestor specified in the "advanced" analysis is attributed to a sequence of base pairs on particular chromosome. My two most distant ancestors listed in the analysis were based on sequences on chromosome 6.
Does ancestry go back that far or 23 and me? Do they both or either get that specific to region location? Can either of the 3 identify Native American ancestry? This is all I am looking for.
First, what is Native American Ancestry? US Native American ancestry doesn't appear in most genetic genealogy company results. The companies need a reference population to compare our DNA to and most Native Americans in refuse to participate in this genetic testing. However, if you're talking about Central and South American Natives or some Canadian first people, there are some groups that have tested. So, no DNA test will tell you your US Native American Ancestry.
Spend time learning about 'going back far' with regards to DNA testing. Autosomal DNA can potentially identify your 4th great-grandparents. Y-DNA MAY tell you a father's, father's, father's line back 10 or more generations. However, it all depends on what you inherited from your genetic ancestors.
Suggestion,, before you review a product, you might want to actually use the product. Therefore your ' Review ' , I will view, with much skepticism.
Suggestion: Don't spend money on a product that doesn't meet the minimum standards for genetic genealogists. Since they fail in the minimum requirements, no one should take their test, which is what I explain in this video.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics As I stated and I think a Genetic Geneologist might agree, if I haven't tested something first hand how am I supposed to form an intelligent opinion about something, whether it be CRI or any other product.
I was just stating the obvious,.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics scientifically speaking, you're just saying "trust me bro"
Sounds like it would be a waste of money. 23&Me give you the mitochondrial and Y DNA info along with autosomal matches and, if you want, the health. Personally, I would never do the health without doing a test hrough my doctor's office.
Agreed.
Cathy... I agree with the waste of money. I took the health reports and they were very interesting. If I received any results that needed to consult with a doctor, I would have had a chat. Thus far, nothing turned up.
This video is outright wrong in many respects. The autosomal DNA reports are a five generation, a deep dive, and a timeline. The deep dive goes back a thousand years or more. I am not saying the CRI database is correct. What I am saying is that this video is in large part incorrect. You need to do better research.
Sadly, I did my investigation based on what they presented at the time of when I made the video. Plus, I am a genetic genealogist. Autosomal can not prove all lines of heritage to your 5th great-grandparents. The deep ancestry depends on mtDNA and y-DNA and rarely helps people build their family tree. CRI genetic does not help you build your family tree. So I stand by my review. Use the other genetic genealogy tests with tree building capabilities and ignore any test that only provides ethnicity results. Chances are the ethnicity results are inaccurate and misleading. Something I've discussed on another video. ua-cam.com/video/i70SZRW9t90/v-deo.html
I felt my health and trait reports were inaccurate to me
If you could download your RAW DNA file, you could upload it to a less expensive health site promethease.com/ to compare the results.
I just got my results. Said I don't have red hair - I do, said I don't have freckles- I do, said I shouldn't be lactose intolerant- I am, and on and on. It was so off of the obvious things, I don't believe any of the results.
Thanks for the input. Since many of these traits are based on probabilities, companies shouldn't be definitive in their results. 23andMe does a good job of showing you the probabilities based on your genetics.
GeneaVlogger I believe has a video on CRI Genetics as well as Nebula and Useful Charts took CircleDNA
Yep. Several folks have videos about the company. Watch them all and decide for yourself.
This Question is for anyone and everyone who knows a thing or two about D.N.A percentages ...my D.N.A report said I'm 3% Italian Swiss and 5% Norweigen does this mean my Gene pool started a long way back with Italian Swiss ancestors or does it mean somewhere a SMALL group of people in my family had Italian Swiss members somewhere along the line irrelevant of when ? Strangely enough I have relatives with the Surname Henderson which is a British Isles Surname but their given first names derive from Italian given Names .
It depends. Do you have a paper trail to back up this research? If not, it depends on the reference population that the companies are using and how robust they are. ua-cam.com/video/ScZtHuU78n4/v-deo.html
I did one of these tests, took about a month to get results, didn't tell me anything I didn't already know, fortunately I paid a discount price, I wouldn't recommend.
This guy has no idea of what he is talking about! Cri is a great dna company! Very private, and I am very satisfied 😌 with my results. If he hasn't tested himself yet then how would he know! Try the test 1st before you give others false information.
You are entitled to your opinion.
However, CRI Genetics does not offer DNA matching which is critical in building your family tree. Additionally, every company that offers ethnicity results is questionable as they all lack sufficient data to make the claims they do. ua-cam.com/video/u8lMfGqSrwg/v-deo.html
If anyone wants a 'party trick', then they can spend their money on CRI Genetics. However, if someone is seriously trying to build their family tree using cousin matching, I stand by my review.
Just had it done. Would like the report on paper. Not very clear on tech.
Do you want to print out the ethnicity report? Or do you mean you want to download your RAW DNA. you can't print out the RAW DNA because it would take up too much paper to even consider.
Did you talk to costumer service directly?
I explained that I'm judging based on their website's information. They haven't provided me enough of my key criteria to warrant taking a DNA test.
It's my understanding ancestry doesn't have a very large European database.
is there a test that will show me more ancestry lines than 2?
First, learn what a DNA test can and can not do ua-cam.com/video/aJWhXgW6pfo/v-deo.html
The learn about the different types of tests ua-cam.com/video/JX6VS_KxdY8/v-deo.html
I used crigenetics and all the things you said are not valid because i have people that I was related to and and I have downloaded all of my data.
hi i know im late but i tested with cri genetics my father was supposed to be spanish but my report said i only have two percent they also said im mostly german my last name is wagner but my mom was adopted also my mom got tested they said had spainish dna but that is completely false my mom has no spainish in her bloodline sorry im rambling shoud i trust this report
One of CRI's ads says "we can give you information on 50 generations ago that you won't find in any books because or pictures because books and pictures didn't exist back then." And I'm like, *Books didn't exist in 1021? How do you figure that?!* Totally untrustworthy message, and therefore I don't trust much of anything else they claim.
It is no more misleading than the ads about changing from Irish to German that were run by other companies. Marketing departments are designed to get people to buy stuff, not elucidate scientific or historical truths.
In the chat we were talking about finding new realtives. I found a nephew for my grandfather but the spouse/manager of kit has not reached out to help me figure out which of his siblings has a spare child. Any tips on trying to figure that out? This was on My heritage, and I figured out that it has be a nephew because there are shared matches on his mother's side and the match is my dad's age.
That's fantastic! I found an Irish relative on my DNA Matches on MyHeritage a couple of years ago and an Australian one, also.
You could deep dive into the family. Search out all the records for the living people to put together what their family tree looks like. Then you may be able to find someone else to approach to get the information.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics If you are replying to me then all of my grandfather's brothers are now deceased and his sister is like 93 or 94 and we are not close. I am not certain there are many living people who I can ask and this person's tree has no information for me to start working from that end.
Stacey, you can look for records for free on familysearch.org. Maybe you can start with the 1940 census to find records, or city directories, to build out a family tree.
@@rettawhinnery He has a birthdate of 1948.
I just got my CRI ancestry dna test today, and I was left feeling upset, confused, and uncomfortable. My results showed that I'm supposedly 53.6% European, and 46.4% black. My top European ancestry origins is 24% Italian, and out of my alleged black ancestry 13% Afro-Caribbean (Barbados). My results make so sense to me. I'm visibly black. Yes, I understand that there are dark skinned mixed people that outwardly look black regardless of their mixed ancestry but, I'm not one of those. Both of my parents, and 4 of my grand parents are black. I understand that there are some black Americans that descend from generational mixed people do to slaves having love relationships or being abused, and those mixed people possibly continuously mixing with other mixed people etc. It doesn't make any sense. But, just like a lot black Americans, I don't know much about my family tree. My results don't make any sense. I'm going to seek answers from the company, and press for a refund.
CRI Genetics has not publicly divulged the make up of their reference populations so lots of people have received results from them that seem erroneous.
We would be almost identical with the exception of my amount of African I have. I am visually black. I was showed pictures of my great great grandmother whom looked Indian. I was adopted by the way and know nothing of my fathers history. My readings were 52.6% European (23.2% Italian), 35.6% African, and 11.9% West Indies- Afro-Caribbean (Barbados as well).The West Indies don't surprise me because I was born in Manhattan, NY and a lot of them migrated there. Ours are eerily similar to one another. I was and am very confused. Now I have to spend another $100 for another test by a different company just to compare the two....smh.
@@buckslim4 If I were you I would get a refund. If they refuse, I would file a claim with my bank. They refunded me. I know I'm not mixed. I took dna tests with my heritage, and Ancestry. I think Ancestry is more accurate. But, honestly. Who knows. I'm black, that is what people see, and respond to.
Doesn't a Y-DNA test show the origins of your direct male line? Basically, your father's father's father's father, etc back something like 50 generations? How is that "not really helpful for an individual?" Am I misunderstanding what the Y-DNA test results tell you?
Watch this video about Y-DNA ua-cam.com/video/0MOEHv1g84E/v-deo.html
What of the claim of being able to tell when ancestors arrived in country and which generation it was that came over? I paid for both the autosomal test and. Y-dna test to break down what has been a impenetrable wall on my paternal line. I think I am right in saying that they claim to go back 50 generations, with the actual generation in which that paternal ancestor moved from country to country and the year that happened. That’s pretty useful to me if they deliver after 20 years of nothing by searching records and after doing the Ancestry and Family Tree y-dna tests.
the 50 generations back will only be along your father's, father's, father's.... line or your mother's, mother's, mother's, mother's line. If you only care about those ancestors, maybe it's worth it. However, you're still missing the majority of ancestry. And, that many generations back, you can get the same results (and other tools) using a different test.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics I made the distinction between between autosomal and YDna tests. My Ancestry.DNA test and account are what I have been using for years. I think I have about 5000 relatives found that except in a few cases goes back5 to 7 generations. What I can’t do is penetrate my paternal line, hence the 50 generation aspect of the YDna test is invaluable.for me.
@@loyalram4363 So do they tell you the names of each of your relatives in all 50 generations? Without this information how does it help your paternal line?
I just got a report from CRI. It was 100% nothing like the report I had gotten from Ancestry. Furthermore, Ancestry listed several relatives with matching dna that I could verify. Ancestry said I was over 90% British Isles, with 3% German. CRI listed me at 45% German and 20% British Isles. CRI also sent no matching ancestry evidence of their test results. I’d save your money if you’re planning on using this company and perhaps going with Ancestry or 23.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I think DNA matching is the best reason to take a DNA test. Glad you found some matches on Ancestry.
For those of you who are thinking about going with CRI genetics I would not recommend it it's a joke I paid $260 to figure out my ancestry or my genealogy and it says that I'm 35.4% German when I have a Native American grandma who died last year my biological dad is full-blooded Indian and they told me that I was quarter Cherokee Indian but nowhere in the description of my results did it say anything about Native American blood I am extremely pissed for them to waste my time. Not to mention in the 4 to 8 weeks did they ever contact me to let me know that my results were finished so I had to call them and then I had to go through a whole hassle just to get into my account and finally today I saw my results and I was disappointed please whoever reads my comment do not go through them
While I agree with not using CRI genetics, the reason you give is actually something no DNA test can answer. US Native Americans are not part of any reference population accessible to commercial genetic genealogy companies. To learn more about reference populations, watch this video ua-cam.com/video/ScZtHuU78n4/v-deo.html
I am happy with CRI, and they don’t sell your information.
Are you sure? Ancestry doesn't either.
Hi Andy can you please do review on GPS origins I've heard mixed reviews about it.
The review will be similar to this one. Stick with the genetic genealogy companies that have cousin matching. Everything else will have the same review as CRI Genetics
no only with autosomal DNA. the Haploid give a detail picture who you are and you your fathers are. , that more conclusive.
The haplogroup is a poor description of who you are. It is based on a single chromosome that you only get from your father (or your mother for mitochondrial DNA).
23andMe also provides a Haploid group, but the power is in the autosomal DNA matches. AncestryDNA has the best tree building function and the largest database, so it is the best for genetic genealogy.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics If you are talking about your overall genetic make-up you are correct. But if you have need of knowing your male line haplogroup to help identify which family of that surname your father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father's father came from in England in 1630 when there are at least 27 different haplogroups of people with that surname from the same period, it is useful to know your haplogroup.
Sure, y-dna testing can help you find your surname multiple generations back. But the haplogroup knowledge is useless without DNA matching.
People seem to think that because their grandparents were born/grew up somewhere means that's all that runs through their veins... ? 🤷🏽♀️
Part of genealogical research is based on where people were born or grew up. However, being born in Ohio doesn't make my wife an Ohioan when she spent 50% of her life in Texas. But, genetic genealogy testing can give us clues to our heritage if we combine DNA matching with paper trail genealogy research.
I think, CRI Genetics, is Great. I like My Results. I watched a few, of their videos, of explaining, about your DNA, and what they're explaining, seems correct, to me. Now, Just (some), of my ethnicities, that I was expecting, to be on, other sites, were not. Those ethnicities, that I was expecting, are... Italian and Iberian Ethnicity, (Well... my sister and my mother, got those Ethnicities, on My Heritage site and Family Tree DNA), and for me, I got Iberian, only, on living DNA. Thoses Ethnicities, they are, on my, Recent results, on the, CRI Genetics. And the South Asian Ethnicity, that I was, also expecting, are only, on the Advanced Ethnicity, Results section. Even tho, the South Asian Ethnicity, is only on the, Advanced ethnicity section, it's still on CRI Genetics site. In this, CRI Genetics Review, video, saying... Not better then other sites, because, no DNA Matching. Well... At least they have, a reference population. Well... I do have, ethnicities, on here, that I was expecting.
So I'd love to see a response from the CRI scientist to this video?Sounds like a pay more get more scenario?
I doubt that they'll respond. That's okay though.
So how many people are here because they had a surprise "Indian" Relative on their advanced timelime? Did it show up more than once?
Great question.
😮 The Admixed American section? My Native side came from Peru,Mexico and Colombian and that was shocking!
@@adrienneroxanne9833 I actually meant India- Indian, but I too had Peruvian and Columbian. It's like we're all getting the same results. I have my ancestry traced back to the 13th century on most, 8th century on others and I'm Irish 50% Scottish 27%, Northern England 11%, Welsh 3%, Caucasian 2% , and German 5% per 2 Sub Saharan African on EVERY other test so I don't know if we just got ripped off by CRI or what because we all seem to be showing the same results on CRI but those results don't match anything in my research which lines up with other tests and research
@@bartonbella3131 Should we try 23and me lol? 👀🤭 Yea I had a very small amount of East Indian too lol. I can see maybe Native but not East Indian. Overall I am 89.7 African.
@@adrienneroxanne9833 Honestly, I loved my results and breakdown for 23 and me plus they connect to a ton of members but ancestry DNA has documents and trees you can link to. None are as expensive as CRI. I'd go with 23 and me lol
For men that Y chromosome line makes up a large portion of their genetic makeup. It's the torch that's being passed. Saying it's "only 2 lines" is misleading criticism for men.
No, the Y chromosome is not a large portion of their genetic makeup. The Y chromosome is only 57Mb long compared to 6400Mb for the entire genome. You can only get your Y chromosome from 1 person in any generation, so 10 generations back when you have 1000+ 8th Great Grand parents, your Y chromosome from 1 of them, which represents 1 line. Your mitochondrial DNA also came from 1 of them, which represents 1 line. For the vast majority of genetic genealogy questions, Y and mt DNA will not help you in the least. because you only inherited them from 2 lines out of 1000+ at 10 generations back.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics yeah considering that why chromosome makes up the majority of your T cell responses in your autoimmune system they're definitely seems to be a lot more weight in the Y chromosome for men. So you may be looking at DNA length but it's really disingenuous to say that it's minor compared to the hodgepodge of randomness that makes up X chromosome recombinations
Once again, I will state "For the vast majority of *genetic genealogy questions* , Y and mt DNA will not help you in the least. because you only inherited them from 2 lines out of 1000+ at 10 generations back."
I was pro CRI until they started promoting Facebook and then I suddenly lost all respect
Um, okay.
Before I got my Results, was thinking about, like... 75% Chance, that... CRI Genetics, would give me results, that other sites, did not give me, like... South Asian Ethnicity. (White Skin, South Asian) and I did get, the South Asian Ethnicity. I knew it was going to be, less then 10%. I was like.. 6 point, something percent.
Just because a company gives you results others do not, does not make them accurate. My wife's DNA results are inconsistent across the five genetic genealogy companies that offer ethnicity results along with DNA matching. The Matching with others is accurate. The ethnicity results are too inconsistent to declare any company more accurate than other.
Thank you for this helpful video. Over the last year I've been tempted to take this CRI Genetics test but backed away for various reasons including bad reviews, their claims seem exaggerated and because I'm already tested at the big five sites, AncestryDNA, 23andMe, FTDNA, MyHeritage and Living DNA. These sites have autosomal matching databases and ancestry composition estimates plus raw data downloads. At FTDNA I paid for Big Y700 and mitochondrial testing and I paid for Health Traits at 23andMe so it's a waste of time and money for me to test at CRI Genetics. Thanks for clearing up their deficiencies, especially no matching database, small reference populations for autosomal ancestry composition estimates and no raw data download.
Glad we could help you in your decision making process.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Thinking more on this CRI Genetics' advertising also is deceptive as they make it appear you can't get 'deeper' ancestry from other sites when actually 23andMe and Living DNA provide, along with autosomal results, MT and Y haplogroups which can be entered into the free SNP Tracker to view tracking maps and SNPs back ~200,000 years.
While your warnings are certainly clear I must say you displayed remarkable restraint not completely savaging CRI Genetics! 😁
I appreciate your feedback.
Point made about no genetic genealogy functions - meaning, no list of matches to other people. I did my DNA test with CRI Genetics too and was more flabbergasted by the matches to celebrities and royals. On my mom's side - I'm related to Eva Longoria and Momia Juanita (Inca princess). The relation is likely from my maternal grandfather's side, Herbert and Coward of Watsonville - there is a road in Interlaken named after the Cowards (which is not a nickname for "cowardice"). The Herberts left Ireland around 1848 (Revolutions of 1848, Great Potato Famine) after having settled in Roscommon in 1790, starting with a passenger log for Alexander Herbert, who likely fled France at the time of the French Revolution. The Herberts either went to Montreal, Ohio, or westward by being railroad workers. My uncle was also a delegate for Hillary Clinton from Nevada in 2016. My grandma, Burrow and Swale, on my mom's side was from England and served as a plotter (data analysis and air traffic control) for the Royal Air Force during the Second World War. On my dad's side, I'm related to Osman I of the Ottoman dynasty (implies, all of the Sultans of the Ottoman Empire), King Somerled of Argyll (major progenitor in Scottish and English royalty), Sir Francis Drake (goes back to Earl of Hereford), Prince Mikolaj Radziwill of the Radziwill dynasty (implies ties to Habsburg dynasty), Sir David Hume (Scottish royalty), Max Von Sydow, Tom Hanks (related to British royalty via 3rd great grandma on his dad's side, Sarah Tandy of Kentucky), Benjamin Netanyahu, Anderson Cooper (Vanderbilts), and King Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands (Dutch royalty and Portuguese royalty have been closely tied historically). All of which, except Netanyahu, support the claim of descent from the Sudeley-Boteler line (Thomas le Boteler, 4th Lord Sudeley) of Norman French royalty that was in England before leaving for Portugal in the 14th century (John de Sudley, Frederick Sudley)...my lineal grandfather, 9 back, is Pedro Pais Sodre who is buried in the habit of St. Francis Xavier, which is a record with the Catholic Church. They were known in Portugal as descendants from the Earl of Hereford, Ralph the Timid (nickname for a loss in battle), and related to St. Edward the Confessor and King Ethelred 'the Unready' (which means 'poorly advised') as a result. The Sudeleys were also prominent benefactors to the Knights Templar. Isabel Sodre is the mother of Vasco Da Gama, whose uncles were Bras and Vincente Sodre who traveled with da Gama to Goa, India when St. Francis was there. Sodre's son was Manuel Lobao Botelho who married into House of Aviz, which is consistent with the presence of Antonio, the Prior of Crato, in the Azores as the last claimant to the crown of Portugal from the House of Aviz before crown of Portugal passed to the House of Austria (Habsburg dynasty). Botelho's son was Francis Joseph Xavier - the name Xavier is likely the result of identifying with the Lancastrians of England (ex, Jorge de Lancastre, Duke of Coimbra) through descent from Queen Philippa of Lancaster (John de Sudley went to Portugal with Queen Philippa as part of her retinue)...whose fourth son, Henry the Navigator, was closely tied with Gonzalo Vaz Botelho (ancestor to the Botelho's of Portugal). Xavier is also the name of a castle in Navarre, Xavier Castle - which means 'the new house.' There continue to be a line of Xavier-Botelho's in Portugal who received titles of royalty from Philip IV of Spain...which probably explains why Botelho was dropped from the name of Francis Joseph Xavier--to get titles from Philip IV, they would have had to pledge loyalty to Philip IV and *not* Antonio, the Prior of Crato. The DNA matches are also limited to who has DNA available for comparison - this amount of ancestry would make me a distant nephew to Queen Elizabeth II and King Charles III via Joan (Botiler) Belknap, daughter of Thomas le Boteler, 4th Lord Sudeley, and mother of John Belknap who became Joao de Resende Sodre in Portugal by marriage to Maria Sodre, daughter of Frederick Sudley, and by changing his name--the name Belknap was attainted because of the Peasants Revolt of 1381 until after the death of John's father, Sir Hamon Belknap, when the attainder was revoked--with the help the Lisbon customs clerk, Fernao Sodre...in what appears to have been to preserve the male line of Sodres in Portugal. Albeit, the relation to current British Royalty is likely by *half* and through the unknown mistress of King John, Clementina, and the cadet branches that warred with each other, ex, the Mortimers. The title of Sudeley was seized from Ralph le Boteler, Baron Sudeley, by Richard III who also had seized Sudeley Castle from Edward IV who had first taken the castle from Ralph le Boteler. Baron Sudeley is believed to have been a witness to the execution of Joan of Arc. Ralph's son, Sir Thomas Butler, married Eleanor Talbot - aka, the 'Holy Harlot,' whom Richard III alleged had had a pre-contract of marriage to Edward IV, which invalidated the sons of Edward IV and Elizabeth Woodville as heirs to the monarchy...who were infamously locked up in the tower by their uncle, Richard III. John Belknap was declared dead in England in 1436 by a council acting on behalf of the boy-king, Henry VI--in what was a power struggle for land in the context of the Wars of the Roses. POINT BEING - I have wanted to know if my results are indicative of royal line that is potentially still current and relevant (capable of inheriting titles) in England....it would help by comparing results of matches to royals and celebrities with other people.
🥵 I'm happy you're diving into your roots and family history but I can't read that for 10 minutes straight coño my brain is on fire
It's expensive and when you go to order it you have to keep making it more expensive and honestly...the Advanced Timeline seems repetitive yet inaccurate. Like a PC of Indian gene that keeps showing up as a "precise" relative every 3 generations....
Again, I'm not a fan of their test and I'm skeptical of their results because most DNA tests do not have a large enough reference population to identify US Native American DNA. Their ads are awesome but reasons I mentioned in the video still stand.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics sorry, I meant Punjabi Indian plus a bunch of us are find Han Chinese, Punjabi Indian, and Peruvian and Columbian...could the Han be from a deep dive into maybe Native American? If you have an email I can send you my results from CRI, Ancestry, and 23 and Me. If you want to look at it and compare to see if you can make sense just don't publish my real name lol
Unfortunately, Ancestry no longer reports trace ancestry. That is, if you have less than 2% Japanese and the rest is north European, their report will not include the Japanese. I have through extrapolation of other relative's DNA reports that we are definitely descended from Native Americans. But I didn't get my Ancestry DNA kit until after they changed their policy and stopped with the trace reports so it shows no native American blood. They don't think it's a good idea. I have traced a paper trail for over 20,000 ancestors with several thousand in America and the rest almost all in Europe going back over 1500 years. I have been working on this since 1976 and have had the help of many family members. And while Ancestry's DNA data base may be the most extensive it may not mean it is the most accurate. My report says I can be anywhere from 10-25% English, 10-43% Irish, 12-27% Scottish and 0-5% Norwegian. If you do the math that only shows that it can add up to as much as 100% of the above. This means it could be missing as much as 68% of my dna pie chart. Basically they are saying "we're not quite sure what you are but here is our best guess." Now I can't say if it is more or less accurate than the others but it is no where near as accurate as it should be. But I do understand the reasons. As for native American, it would be useful if they told me that I may have some native American dna to confirm what I have on paper. But keeping silent is not useful. I'm not sure why the change. So to get this I would have to go to other services. It should also show about 1.5% Spanish because I can trace back on paper to about 20 conquistadors in Florida 1565-1735. It shows no Spanish. It should show about 1.5% Spanish for me but it shows none at all. Had I taken this test about a year ago like I should have it most likely would have shown at least some Spanish. It does not today. Other's might.
I disagree with this video concerning the usefulness of the male line DNA report. While I can trace back some female lines to the late Roman period I can only go back to about 1630 in my male line. Prior to that there is no record that has yet been found about that ancestor's parents. While not terribly rare, my surname is also not exceedingly common. There are about 13,000 males living in the U.K. with my surname. I have found approximately 27 separate haplogroups represented by that surname thus far. There are probably more. Assuming my haplogroup is about as common as any other with that surname, That means I should have somewhere between 100 and 2000 distant male cousins with the same last name. I have a database of thousands of records of people in England going back 700 years with my surname. I also have a really good idea where we came from. The town my ancestor settled in, in Massachusetts was settled almost entirely by people from the same county in England. By knowing my haplogroup, I can exclude at least 26 categories of people from other haplogroups as my distant cousins and focus on those who belong to the same haplogroup. While they should be spread around quite a bit, most are probably in the U.S., I might be able to confirm the county of origin for my male line. The interesting part is that the county in question has a higher percentage of persons with my surname than any other county in the U.K. indicating a fairly good chance that is in fact our county of origin. The county is relatively small by population. So while there are no guarantees or promises of any kind, knowing my haplogroup brings me all the closer to knowing the origin of my male line. Significant due to the fact that it is the one line I know the least about. This is also significant because about 140 years ago a genealogist traveled to England on behalf of one of my distant cousins for the express purpose of proving that our male line was descended from a relatively famous nobleman who came to England in 1066 with William I. Only problem is that it was based on supposition and not real research. Our name and their name was similar but not spelled or pronounced the same. They also come from a different part of England that my suspected county of origin and most importantly, the person they say my ancestor really is, died and is buried in England and his grave can easily be found whereas our ancestor is buried in Massachusetts where he died and his will was proved proving to me that they can't possibly be the same person. That family, a prominent one in their county, has had their haplogroup identified. If I am not of the same haplogroup then either it is as I suspected or someone in my male line cheated. I know that could not be between 1730 and today because I have seen a painting of my ancestor from 1730 and he looks just like my father's father. it is possible that someone cheated between 1630 and 1730 so I will need confirmation from a couple of distant male cousins from the same documented lined and I happen to have gotten in touch with two and they have agreed to take the test with me. So bottom line, the male line haplogroup is useful in proving that line or possibly in my case, disproving it. We are all waiting for our test kits and then by March we should know something.
I think the female line would also be interesting to know. I am expecting it to show an Irish haplogroup but I would be interesting in seeing if that is true. I'm also going to take additional DNA tests through other companies both to compare results and to see how many additional distant cousins I can get in contact with. I will say that not many people out of many thousands that popped up with ancestry's report have replied to my enquiry.
The trace report omission is interesting. Wonder if it is the reason why one can have a genetic match on Ancestry but with no shared ethnicity as per the Ancestry report. This leaves one baffled to say the least. Thanks for your contribution.
First, we have to define Native American. This could be Canadian, US, Central or South American Natives. No database has US native tribes in their control group (reference population).
Second, the ethnicity results are estimates. The worldwide refence populations are extremely small, so NO test will be accurate. ua-cam.com/video/ScZtHuU78n4/v-deo.html
Third, for trace ancestry, I think much of it is typically inaccurate, so I'm glad Ancestry removed that
WHEN ANCESTRY GENEOLOGY ANY OF THOSE STARTED HAPPENING.( I WAS EXCITED.) WANTED TO KNOW MORE. SO I TYPED MY FAMILY NAME ECT. AND THERE IS MY SISTER WHO GAVE FALSE INFO. SHE SAID SHE'S THE ONLY CHILD FROM MOM AND DAD. SHE WAS 3RD CHILD OUT OF 4. IT MADE ME FEEL ILL, AND ALL OF US SIBLINGS ARE STILL ALIVE. LIFE GOES ON.
Wow! That's very odd behavior. Did you ask her why she did it?
Maybe she had not completely filled it out yet.
I'm not entirely sure how to respond. Many genealogy companies privatize living people in family trees. So, could that be the reason you're not on the family tree? Because you're living?
Thanks Margaret for adding an alternative possibility.
@@margaretwilliams2369 SO SORRY DID NOT LOOK AT MY NOTIFICATIONS. MY SISTER KNEW WHAT SHE WAS DOING EVEN SENT LOTS OF PICTURES OF JUST HER. SHE HELP START GENEOLOGY. SHE KNEW WHAT SHE WAS DOING. THANKS MARGARET WILLIAMS.