Deconstructing Helter Skelter (Isolated Tracks) (Play It Loud)
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2022
- The Beatles 1968
Drums and Brass Bleed 0:04-4:32
Bass 4:36-9:02
Guitars, Snare Overdub, Trumpet, Sax, Piano and Buried Chatter 9:07-13:38
Vocals 13:44-17:02
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Paul McCartney-1962 Epiphone ES230TD Casino, Lead Vocals
John Lennon-1968 Fender Bass VI, Saxophone, Hamburg Steinway Baby Grand Piano, Backing Vocals
George Harrison-1957 Gibson Les Paul Standard, Backing Vocals
Ringo Starr-1967 Ludwig Hollywood Maple, Shouting Vocals
Mal Evans-Trumpet
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The Beatles 1968 (VOLUME WARMING ON ALL TRACKS)
Drums and Brass Bleed 0:04-4:32
Bass 4:36-9:02
Guitars, Snare Overdub, Trumpet, Sax, Piano and Buried Chatter 9:07-13:38
Vocals 13:44-17:02
Ringo didn’t use his Rooftop Kit. Glass Onion was the first time that he used the Rooftop Kit. He still used his 1964 Ludwig drum set
They were recorded in the same week
@@HJsCorn909 But it’s the Black Oyster kit that’s used on this song. Mal Evans said that Glass Onion was the first time Ringo used his Rooftop Kit
listening to the isolated tracks just make me love this song more (this is my favourite song btw)
at 12:00 I'm pretty sure these weird noises made by Lennon are some of the ones that appear on Revolution 9
13:24 John's Piano Comes In
What makes this even more crazier is that Mal Evans is going full on Penderecki on his trumpet by making strange eerie noises and whatever kinds of sounds comes out from it.
I can't hear it, where can you hear it?
I believe they hit their mark with this one .
Wish there was film of making the white album, like let it be
Love John's dirty bass playing on this song
It's actually Paul.
@@marcusphelan57 John played bass for helter skelter
@@bagenskiii8376 No that's the point: he didn't, not on the final version. He played bass on the months earlier 20 minute slow version where he played the one E note, two to the bar for the whole recording. Listen to Helter Skelter Take 17 and you will find the answer. As Ringo said in Anthology: ‘Helter Skelter’ was a track we did in total madness and hysterics in the studio. Sometimes you just had to shake out the jams, and with that song - Paul’s bass line and my drums - Paul started screaming and shouting and made it up on the spot”.
@@marcusphelan57 source?
@@bagenskiii8376 apart from Ringo, the evidence is: 1) John was the world’s most reluctant and worse bass player in the world ( see Get Back); 2) the assertion that the bass is sloppy and simple is ludicrous and made by people with obviously no musical ability or are tone deaf 3) the Take 17 outtake which, when analysed as much as someone like me and other losers ha who have spent countless hours studying it, reveals clearly that Paul is playing bass 4) following the development of the song from early versions to final product and hearing telltale clues that tell a story - fuck this sounds pretentious- about its composition. Sorry, I’m writing this on my little phone after a few glasses. I’m not a total contrarian like I’ve been accused of, I only talk about the stuff I know, and this is one of those.
Wow 😊😮
Love the little cough in the vox track. 😅
F*cking white album, man! 🔥
Awesome.
Any chance of getting just the trumpets isolated? Hahah. I heard Lennon played trumpet as well as Mal Evans btw, no idea if that's true.
I don’t think it would possible to isolate them on their own sorry. Also yes, Lennon and Mal are both playing saxophone and trumpet mouthpieces
@@HJsCorn909 Cool. Very understandable, didn’t have high hopes for it! Thanks.
What software did u use for this?
Audacity
Is it possible that Paul or John - whoever played the rhythm guitar - brought the Vox hybrids out of storage? The sound is so distorted, I don't think it could have been a Fender.
I don’t think so. It sounds very much like the Casino because of its hollow body and its tendency for distortion
And hollow bodies tend to provide more feedback at higher volumes.
When didn't you put parts in this video?!
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had a stroke reading this
@@HJsCorn909 time marks
One thing that kind of baffles me about the overall recording is how Ringo's blisters screech was picked up. I know there were microphones all around, but were any of them close enough to him to pick up his voice?
Maybe one of the drum overhead mics or something picked it up
@@HJsCorn909 That voice ripped through the mix so hard, you'd think you hear him breathing throughout.
@@elirosen1391 It still cracks me up every time I hear it.
All he had to do was stand up and yell into an overhead mic
@@marcusphelan57 i can see him doing that.
Wheres John's saxophone part? I'm trying to find the exact time stamp but i can't
9:07-13:38 it’s between this.
it's mixed in with Ringo's part
Mal Evans clarified in Nov. 1968 that much of the bass work on the "White Album" was performed by John Lennon. Something that seemed surprising to him. Beginning in 1968 and with the introduction of the Fender Bass VI, Lennon had a more prominent role on bass, playing on: "Helter Skelter", "While My Guitar Gently Weeps", "Glass Onion", "Rocky Raccoon", "Piggies", "Back In The U.S.S.R.", etc.
Total nonsense, he said no such thing.
@@marcusphelan57 , Abbey Road Studios Page: "Ken Scott, who took over as The Beatle’s Balance Engineer, redefined his mic choices into a setup from which he rarely deviated. A combination of The Neuman U67 and DIT would be used on bass, KM56 on drums and KM56 on snare. Piggies, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Glass Onions and Rocky Racoon also see The Beatles played a 6 string fender bass rather than the 4 string they would usually play". John Lennon was the only person who could perform said bass on those songs besides "Helter Skelter" and "Back In The U.S.S.R.", something that is also confirmed by Mal Evans and Harrison himself.
@@stellapolanco6860 "John Lennon was the only person who could perform said bass..." What, was it particularly difficult that only John could play it? I reckon Ringo could probably play it better if he tried. As Ringo said: “‘Helter Skelter was a track we did in total madness and hysterics in the studio. Sometimes you just had to shake out the jams, and with that song - Paul’s bass line and my drums - Paul started screaming and shouting and made it up on the spot”. (Anthology.) Ringo and George (Guitar Player Nov 87 and Playboy Sept 91) are to be believed over the dodgy memory of an engineer. Look, listen to the videos I linked and then get back to me, otherwise your wasting my time by spreading false information.
It's paul playing bass :) watch You Can't Unhear This's video.
Paul would never lay down a sloppy bass. John would. It’s John
@@HJsCorn909 It's 100% Paul. Provide another example of John playing bass like this?
@@marcusphelan57the credits for helter skelter, look it up.
@@theweirdone1242 the guesses that archivists made? No I’d rather believe Ringo, who was there, not some bloke fifty years later misinterpreting a Mal Evans diary entry (confirmed by his biographer, Ken Womack.) Also, I use my ears, and Take 17 presents irrefutable evidence that Paul, as Ringo stated, is playing bass. Not one person has identified John playing bass on any track (that we know he plays bass on) that is similar in style to this. People say it’s in his style but can’t provide evidence of his style. I know John’s style: it’s the plodding one note for 27 minutes that he plays on the first, slow version. One E note, that’s it. This is the take that Mal Evans credited John playing bass and this has carried over into people falsely attributing John on the album version recorded months later.
@@marcusphelan57You convinced me. Anyways Paul would have probably overdubbed it even if John did play it. One thing I’ve been wondering. Someone said Paul used to secretly overdub some of Ringos drums. Do you know if there’s any truth to this? I’m assuming that is false because Ringo is a better drummer than Paul. But McCartney is a perfectionist after all..
Much as i love george martin, he really was terrible at recording drums. Compare this drum sound to what led zeppelin and black sabbath were getting a year later, or even hendrix experience and cream earlier on. Part of it is Ringo's awful cymbals though. It was much better on earlier tracks like tommorow never knows, later i think they all wanted a muted drum sound, no idea why.
John's bass playing is dreadful. The notes are fine but hes either hitting the strings too hard with the pick that its causing the strings to hit the pickup causing that zing.
Terrible
I always liked John's crummy bass on HS. It kinda fits the song imo
It’s just how that bass sounds
No, it's the Bass itself that has the sound. Listen to Gently Weeps and compare how Paul sounds on the same Bass.
pauls playing his jazz bass. this is the six string bass
Sorry, you have the wrong room, it's human artistic expression in here. Quantizing and auto-tune are down the hall.