Deconstructing Helter Skelter (Isolated Tracks) (Play It Loud)

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  • @HJsCorn909
    @HJsCorn909  2 роки тому +26

    The Beatles 1968 (VOLUME WARMING ON ALL TRACKS)
    Drums and Brass Bleed 0:04-4:32
    Bass 4:36-9:02
    Guitars, Snare Overdub, Trumpet, Sax, Piano and Buried Chatter 9:07-13:38
    Vocals 13:44-17:02

  • @beatlesfan2884
    @beatlesfan2884 2 роки тому +54

    Ringo didn’t use his Rooftop Kit. Glass Onion was the first time that he used the Rooftop Kit. He still used his 1964 Ludwig drum set

    • @HJsCorn909
      @HJsCorn909  2 роки тому +1

      They were recorded in the same week

    • @beatlesfan2884
      @beatlesfan2884 2 роки тому +10

      @@HJsCorn909 But it’s the Black Oyster kit that’s used on this song. Mal Evans said that Glass Onion was the first time Ringo used his Rooftop Kit

  • @keithmoon3190
    @keithmoon3190 Рік тому +21

    What makes this even more crazier is that Mal Evans is going full on Penderecki on his trumpet by making strange eerie noises and whatever kinds of sounds comes out from it.

    • @Xavier_Creighton
      @Xavier_Creighton 5 місяців тому

      I can't hear it, where can you hear it?

    • @Darylvb
      @Darylvb 3 місяці тому

      @@Xavier_CreightonCan hear during the drum track

  • @jacobl4597
    @jacobl4597 Рік тому +19

    I believe they hit their mark with this one .

    • @wide_awake
      @wide_awake 9 місяців тому +2

      Wish there was film of making the white album, like let it be

  • @oscarducrot3327
    @oscarducrot3327 11 місяців тому +27

    at 12:00 I'm pretty sure these weird noises made by Lennon are some of the ones that appear on Revolution 9

  • @MooEinstein
    @MooEinstein 2 роки тому +24

    13:24 John's Piano Comes In

  • @bagenskiii8376
    @bagenskiii8376 11 місяців тому +40

    Love John's dirty bass playing on this song

    • @marcusphelan57
      @marcusphelan57 9 місяців тому +13

      It's actually Paul.

    • @bagenskiii8376
      @bagenskiii8376 9 місяців тому +5

      @@marcusphelan57 John played bass for helter skelter

    • @marcusphelan57
      @marcusphelan57 9 місяців тому +14

      @@bagenskiii8376 No that's the point: he didn't, not on the final version. He played bass on the months earlier 20 minute slow version where he played the one E note, two to the bar for the whole recording. Listen to Helter Skelter Take 17 and you will find the answer. As Ringo said in Anthology: ‘Helter Skelter’ was a track we did in total madness and hysterics in the studio. Sometimes you just had to shake out the jams, and with that song - Paul’s bass line and my drums - Paul started screaming and shouting and made it up on the spot”.

    • @bagenskiii8376
      @bagenskiii8376 9 місяців тому +1

      @@marcusphelan57 source?

    • @marcusphelan57
      @marcusphelan57 9 місяців тому +9

      @@bagenskiii8376 apart from Ringo, the evidence is: 1) John was the world’s most reluctant and worse bass player in the world ( see Get Back); 2) the assertion that the bass is sloppy and simple is ludicrous and made by people with obviously no musical ability or are tone deaf 3) the Take 17 outtake which, when analysed as much as someone like me and other losers ha who have spent countless hours studying it, reveals clearly that Paul is playing bass 4) following the development of the song from early versions to final product and hearing telltale clues that tell a story - fuck this sounds pretentious- about its composition. Sorry, I’m writing this on my little phone after a few glasses. I’m not a total contrarian like I’ve been accused of, I only talk about the stuff I know, and this is one of those.

  • @mr.whipple2953
    @mr.whipple2953 Місяць тому +2

    So neat to hear the isolated vocals!

  • @wide_awake
    @wide_awake 9 місяців тому +16

    F*cking white album, man! 🔥

  • @superwoodyadventures9912
    @superwoodyadventures9912 18 днів тому +1

    16:57 I GOT BLISTERS ON MY FINGERS!

  • @Derek_blaze2011
    @Derek_blaze2011 25 днів тому

    i fucking love this part. 1:36. it makes me giggle!

  • @birchsongsltd.6831
    @birchsongsltd.6831 5 місяців тому +1

    Love the little cough in the vox track. 😅

  • @elirosen1391
    @elirosen1391 7 місяців тому +1

    Is it possible that Paul or John - whoever played the rhythm guitar - brought the Vox hybrids out of storage? The sound is so distorted, I don't think it could have been a Fender.

    • @HJsCorn909
      @HJsCorn909  7 місяців тому +7

      I don’t think so. It sounds very much like the Casino because of its hollow body and its tendency for distortion

    • @JZen_25
      @JZen_25 7 місяців тому +1

      And hollow bodies tend to provide more feedback at higher volumes.

  • @elirosen1391
    @elirosen1391 8 місяців тому +1

    One thing that kind of baffles me about the overall recording is how Ringo's blisters screech was picked up. I know there were microphones all around, but were any of them close enough to him to pick up his voice?

    • @HJsCorn909
      @HJsCorn909  8 місяців тому +5

      Maybe one of the drum overhead mics or something picked it up

    • @elirosen1391
      @elirosen1391 8 місяців тому +4

      @@HJsCorn909 That voice ripped through the mix so hard, you'd think you hear him breathing throughout.

    • @Tom-hk6ub
      @Tom-hk6ub 7 місяців тому +2

      @@elirosen1391 It still cracks me up every time I hear it.

    • @marcusphelan57
      @marcusphelan57 7 місяців тому +5

      All he had to do was stand up and yell into an overhead mic

    • @elirosen1391
      @elirosen1391 5 місяців тому +2

      @@marcusphelan57 i can see him doing that.

  • @holzhausstehle4593
    @holzhausstehle4593 Рік тому +1

    Wow 😊😮

  • @thehatman69420
    @thehatman69420 4 місяці тому

    listening to the isolated tracks just make me love this song more (this is my favourite song btw)

  • @stixz1
    @stixz1 5 місяців тому +1

    What software did u use for this?

  • @Прямой-б2с
    @Прямой-б2с 4 місяці тому +2

    Басист играл на доске с веревкой?

  • @perfectpiano1871
    @perfectpiano1871 Рік тому +4

    When didn't you put parts in this video?!

  • @bryangoofy29
    @bryangoofy29 Рік тому +7

    Wheres John's saxophone part? I'm trying to find the exact time stamp but i can't

  • @stellapolanco6860
    @stellapolanco6860 6 місяців тому +1

    Mal Evans clarified in Nov. 1968 that much of the bass work on the "White Album" was performed by John Lennon. Something that seemed surprising to him. Beginning in 1968 and with the introduction of the Fender Bass VI, Lennon had a more prominent role on bass, playing on: "Helter Skelter", "While My Guitar Gently Weeps", "Glass Onion", "Rocky Raccoon", "Piggies", "Back In The U.S.S.R.", etc.

    • @marcusphelan57
      @marcusphelan57 6 місяців тому +1

      Total nonsense, he said no such thing.

    • @stellapolanco6860
      @stellapolanco6860 6 місяців тому

      @@marcusphelan57 , Abbey Road Studios Page: "Ken Scott, who took over as The Beatle’s Balance Engineer, redefined his mic choices into a setup from which he rarely deviated. A combination of The Neuman U67 and DIT would be used on bass, KM56 on drums and KM56 on snare. Piggies, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Glass Onions and Rocky Racoon also see The Beatles played a 6 string fender bass rather than the 4 string they would usually play". John Lennon was the only person who could perform said bass on those songs besides "Helter Skelter" and "Back In The U.S.S.R.", something that is also confirmed by Mal Evans and Harrison himself.

    • @marcusphelan57
      @marcusphelan57 6 місяців тому +4

      @@stellapolanco6860 "John Lennon was the only person who could perform said bass..." What, was it particularly difficult that only John could play it? I reckon Ringo could probably play it better if he tried. As Ringo said: “‘Helter Skelter was a track we did in total madness and hysterics in the studio. Sometimes you just had to shake out the jams, and with that song - Paul’s bass line and my drums - Paul started screaming and shouting and made it up on the spot”. (Anthology.) Ringo and George (Guitar Player Nov 87 and Playboy Sept 91) are to be believed over the dodgy memory of an engineer. Look, listen to the videos I linked and then get back to me, otherwise your wasting my time by spreading false information.

    • @kevinsebastian120
      @kevinsebastian120 Місяць тому +1

      False. If you watched any video that goes deep into this, you would know that it was Paul McCartney who played bass on this track because when Mal Evans said that he was referring to Take 17 of Helter Skelter which was done in July of 1968. And where tf did you learn that John played bass on While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Glass Onion, Piggies, Rocky Raccoon, Back In The U.S.S.R., etc.? It was all Paul. Where are you getting your information from?

    • @stellapolanco6860
      @stellapolanco6860 Місяць тому

      @@kevinsebastian120 , Abbey Road Studios Page: "Ken Scott, who took over as The Beatle’s Balance Engineer, redefined his mic choices into a setup from which he rarely deviated. A combination of The Neuman U67 and DIT would be used on bass, KM56 on drums and KM56 on snare. Piggies, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Glass Onions and Rocky Racoon also see The Beatles played a 6 string fender bass rather than the 4 string they would usually play". John Lennon was the only person who could perform said bass on those songs besides "Helter Skelter" and "Back In The U.S.S.R.", something that is also confirmed by Mal Evans and Harrison himself.

  • @krispykicks7766
    @krispykicks7766 6 місяців тому +6

    It's paul playing bass :) watch You Can't Unhear This's video.

    • @HJsCorn909
      @HJsCorn909  6 місяців тому +2

      Paul would never lay down a sloppy bass. John would. It’s John

    • @marcusphelan57
      @marcusphelan57 6 місяців тому

      @@HJsCorn909 It's 100% Paul. Provide another example of John playing bass like this?

    • @theweirdone1242
      @theweirdone1242 6 місяців тому

      @@marcusphelan57the credits for helter skelter, look it up.

    • @marcusphelan57
      @marcusphelan57 6 місяців тому +2

      @@theweirdone1242 the guesses that archivists made? No I’d rather believe Ringo, who was there, not some bloke fifty years later misinterpreting a Mal Evans diary entry (confirmed by his biographer, Ken Womack.) Also, I use my ears, and Take 17 presents irrefutable evidence that Paul, as Ringo stated, is playing bass. Not one person has identified John playing bass on any track (that we know he plays bass on) that is similar in style to this. People say it’s in his style but can’t provide evidence of his style. I know John’s style: it’s the plodding one note for 27 minutes that he plays on the first, slow version. One E note, that’s it. This is the take that Mal Evans credited John playing bass and this has carried over into people falsely attributing John on the album version recorded months later.

    • @nicholasmaxwell9899
      @nicholasmaxwell9899 5 місяців тому

      @@marcusphelan57You convinced me. Anyways Paul would have probably overdubbed it even if John did play it. One thing I’ve been wondering. Someone said Paul used to secretly overdub some of Ringos drums. Do you know if there’s any truth to this? I’m assuming that is false because Ringo is a better drummer than Paul. But McCartney is a perfectionist after all..

  • @Vingul
    @Vingul 4 місяці тому

    Any chance of getting just the trumpets isolated? Hahah. I heard Lennon played trumpet as well as Mal Evans btw, no idea if that's true.

    • @HJsCorn909
      @HJsCorn909  4 місяці тому +2

      I don’t think it would possible to isolate them on their own sorry. Also yes, Lennon and Mal are both playing saxophone and trumpet mouthpieces

    • @Vingul
      @Vingul 4 місяці тому

      @@HJsCorn909 Cool. Very understandable, didn’t have high hopes for it! Thanks.

  • @Ukraineaissance2014
    @Ukraineaissance2014 10 місяців тому +6

    Much as i love george martin, he really was terrible at recording drums. Compare this drum sound to what led zeppelin and black sabbath were getting a year later, or even hendrix experience and cream earlier on. Part of it is Ringo's awful cymbals though. It was much better on earlier tracks like tommorow never knows, later i think they all wanted a muted drum sound, no idea why.

  • @lisag18
    @lisag18 Рік тому +6

    John's bass playing is dreadful. The notes are fine but hes either hitting the strings too hard with the pick that its causing the strings to hit the pickup causing that zing.
    Terrible

    • @HJsCorn909
      @HJsCorn909  Рік тому +17

      I always liked John's crummy bass on HS. It kinda fits the song imo

    • @m1gr41n3
      @m1gr41n3 Рік тому +3

      It’s just how that bass sounds

    • @fortepiano4491
      @fortepiano4491 Рік тому +4

      No, it's the Bass itself that has the sound. Listen to Gently Weeps and compare how Paul sounds on the same Bass.

    • @aydanneilson-bourke7378
      @aydanneilson-bourke7378 Рік тому +3

      pauls playing his jazz bass. this is the six string bass

    • @commentatron
      @commentatron Рік тому +10

      Sorry, you have the wrong room, it's human artistic expression in here. Quantizing and auto-tune are down the hall.