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I like being a dinosaur. I'm actually starting to get used to saying "Back in my day" to all the kids. I've been using "cd" for so long I don't think I could retrain myself if I tried. I still enter Windows commands into Linux terminal all the time to this day, lol.
I used to use utilities and tweaks like this all the time. But these days I stick to the stock experience. Why? Because it guarantees that I can go on any system without having to think about what is/isn't installed. And it saves me time installing them whenever I rebuild my systems.
i’m a dinosaur. how dare you suggest a better tool. these kids and their zoxide tools will fold like cheap suits the moment they try to manage an older system.
This is very much a linux desktop poweruser, arch btw, kinda perspective. As a sysadmin, this isn't even close to being viable. Ctrl+R in bash works just as fast - and does so inside pods in Kubernetes, production systems running on Debian 6 - all kinds of things. You'd have to install z on about a dozen servers daily, and on a good chunk of them you'd have to compile it yourself (if it even manages to compile). Unix userspace is great when you took the time to master the fundamentals - what I'm seeing here and with a lot of these tools, is tools made by new people who skipped the fundamentals and reinvented the wheel in a slightly different UX that's wildly incompatible with others, is not packaged/maintained, or requires some effort to set up that you just can't afford when working with Linux 9-5. So - no, this is not replacing cd anytime soon. For your customized desktop - sure. For one of the hundreds of throwaway docker container images, k8s pods, clients servers, embedded systems - not so much, bash and cd does the job just as well.
@@bobbybologna3029 I prefer my personal rig to match my production servers except where it doesn't make sense to. There is no reason to have a different change-directory command in both, so I use the os native one everywhere. I will put newer versions of stuff on my personal rig first to test it out before rolling it out to production.
While the "learn the basics" stuff needs to be said more (and rank higher in search results)... Do you not have tooling for pushing software to all your machines under management? Or just thinking you'd need too many different builds and deployment strategies?
Came here to say the same. I like to keep my personal machine basic tools to be vanilla as possible. I don't want to shift my muscle memory while working with servers and personal machine. I think this video is more inclined towards tech enthusiasts
I agree that production servers shall mantain a standard in order to manage all them the same way, but all these tools that are "reinventing the wheel" (in rust lol) gives the user a better way to interact with the machine on it's daily tasks As always with technology, gotta use the right tool for the job, and on my Home PC this utility might be worth trying
Good video! I got similar functionality with aliases and scripts; I have created aliases for my most used things (not just folders), so I can do pretty much anything typing a word or even a letter.
I created my own cd function in Bash which switches to the directory and then clears the screen and does my formatted ls. Saves a tonne of time. And I also added a bunch of custom functions for switching to various directories and doing ls: - goes to previous directory, . is equivalent to ls (think of it as "switch to current directory and list files"), .. goes to the parent dir, ... goes to the parent of the parent dir, and so on. Edit: Two notes: 1.) My custom cd doesn't clear the screen or do the ls if there was any error switching to the directory, and 2.) I have always used "source" instead of "." when including a file in Bash, so I don't mind replacing the "." command.
I added ls to chpwd, but i might add clear also as that sounds like good too I also added . to be ls if no args and .. to cd .. so i could do . .. . .. hehe
Love this tool! 2 major thing missed: You can alias the z command using init, ex: `z init --cmd cd` You can nest searches `z git web` would fuzzy search for first git and then web. Highest ranked match wins
I have been using zi and z in powershell a lot on my office laptop. I haven't needed it on my home pc which is using linux and have a nice collection of jump scripts.
That's what I'm talking about!! Showing me something I didn't know i needed, and I now, I expect, I won't be able to live with out. Much better. Thanks for being open to criticism!
I'm using zoxide few months already and it's awesome, also suggested to few my friends (we are kind of geeks with terminal), one tool I would suggest is 'eza' replacement for basic 'ls', it will make the basic ls command more colourful.
I don't want to do mental gymnastic to remember which folder I went that have the same name of another folder and use zi instead of z in that case I just use... autocomplete
I've been using zoxide for a while, but I've used env variables to change the commands to cd and cdi because my dinosaur brain thinks z is weird and I've been using cd since dos
you can do exactly that by using: eval "$(zoxide init --cmd cd zsh)" in your zshrc this automatically replaces cd with zoxide and creates the cdi command
Honestly at this point I dont even use any of the core utility commands for my OS'es and install faster alternatives like these, though I do like to "command hop" like distro hopping for each one of them, actually i might have 5 cd alternatives installed on my system at any given time, i end up getting a package update every 3 seconds on rolling release but its worth it imo Hopefully in the future i can just have a piece of software mathematically proven to be the most optimized possible for the specific silicon of my CPU even the binning and stuff for that extra boost, but I guess we're still stuck in the stone ages. I actually have 5 server racks cracking away on all the permutations for changing directories in terminal to get even better than z, so far nothing though after 15 years Ive actually e-mailed intel and AMD begging them to add an accelerated changing directory chiplet on their packages but no luck. I bet you could easily get better than Z with that but until the tech is there in hardware I guess we're stick with these clunky software solutions How fast do you guys think we can make changing directories if we achieve artificial superintelligence? Probably at least twice as fast as Z right? Might as well wait for that to happen
Awesome tutorial on an awesome utility, cool 👍 I'm an old school guy and for those super long dirs I just have aliases, but this is very powerful and I assume much to the liking of the young.
My humble opinion is that you should use starship. Firstly its actually usefull and not a waster of horizontal space. And not a waster vertical if you configure it. But the bedt part is the git integration.
nah... its better to be explicit. if you type "z some folder" and you have ambiguity and then you ASSUME you are on one folder but youre in another... bad things could happen if I want convenience I just use GUI, for searching just find and grep etc, tab to auto complete, seems fine
I tried z and it was way too unreliable. Instead of failing to cd into directory that doesn't exist, z would take me into completely different folder than i wanted. I uninstalled it but i encourage you to try it for yourself
No thanks, I'm a dinosaur. The standard commands are so burned into my brain that muscle memory automatically takes me wherever I want to be. Plus, I work on so many systems that I don't want to have to install new stuff all the time, or try to rely on something that's not already installed.
to not screw up your muscle memory you can use the following in your zshrc: eval "$(zoxide init --cmd cd zsh)" this will overwrite cd to be zoxide also, cdi replaces zi. i've been running this for the last month or so it's great!
Yep, I'm a dinosaur. And I'll keep using cd, because I don't like this confusion with z, having everytime paying attention where I am and accidently being transported to. Could be a tool from Microsoft, causing only more confusion.
I am going to stay a dinosaur. My cd is a function in my .bashrc that also _ls -A_ Also I have _cdspell_ shopt on. And a couple of more functions like _.. 3_ gets me up 3 directories. Plus the native _cd -_ to jump back and forth between directories is good enough for me.
idk if its worth changing to since i have been familiar with cd and it serves me fine there isnt an issue to switch for me but this is definitely cool project, people who bash on this one with the old conservative reason like "if it aint broke doesnt fix it" are definitely wrong, linux/unix wouldnt be like today if we didnt do anything, alot of updates didnt come because something is broken
@@JoshuaCaseyStorage if you will. I use both solid and mechanic drives at this point. I don't need expensive storage for everything and also, solid storage only offer a few TBs of capacity
Thanks Chris, but I'll stick with cd. I work with many systems, many are not mine, so becoming dependent on an add-in is a bad idea. Sure, I have super user access, but I don't like adding things to systems that are not mine. Besides that, anything added to a server is just another potential point of access.
Nah I will stick with cd, because zoxide is nice, but the flaw is, you have to have gone to that directory first. Usually when I am CLI'ing and going in there, it is often the first time such as a game under Linux that I need to tweak permissions, change something... Or the biggest sin of them all, mess around with .bat files for mods where you have to work the Wine Command Line, and there you do not have anything other than plain old cd. Then I sometimes do retro computing, and there is no zoxide for DOS naturally.
why does your Linux look like windows and windows look like Linux 🤨
Just don't feel comfortable!
Linus is a Microsoft plant.
But what does Macos look like? 🤔
@@pyp2205templeos
@@pyp2205Given its subpar customization potential, probably just the way it was designed to look.
Stop using CD, use DVD!
alias z and zi to cd and cdi to not mess up your muscle memory, they have the instructions somewhere in the docs.
just neat to add --cmd cd to the zoxide init command
I like being a dinosaur. I'm actually starting to get used to saying "Back in my day" to all the kids. I've been using "cd" for so long I don't think I could retrain myself if I tried. I still enter Windows commands into Linux terminal all the time to this day, lol.
I use ls everywhere and I am glad powershell has it because I can't unlearn it.
you old farts still haven't figured out aliases yet?! 😆
I am the youth and I still had a hard time un-learning cd, but it is really worth it
Center directory. Compact disc. C Deez nutz. I am old loo
What about putting alias cd="z " into your ~/.bashrc?
cd'z nuts
A solution in search of a problem.
fine, i'll use chdir from now on
fine, aliasing change-to-directory to chdir
Jokes on you i aliased z to cd
if it ain't broke, don't change it. Damn kids and their new tech
HAHA!
I used to use utilities and tweaks like this all the time. But these days I stick to the stock experience.
Why? Because it guarantees that I can go on any system without having to think about what is/isn't installed. And it saves me time installing them whenever I rebuild my systems.
Is there a fork available for non-US users to use ‘zed’?
z instead of cd would save you half of your lifetime typing cd.
i like the exercise.
NEVER
I'm not installing anything I don't absolutely need on a production server.
Then why even comment if you wont install it
He wasn't specifically talking to you my guy
ok
No shit... install this on your personal machine...
Pretty sure this video is intended for personal computers
I don't think I could remove cd from my brain if I wanted to. But I have used bindings and linked commands for years for similar commands.
Everybody is a 🦕 then 😂
So zsh with autocd turned on or fish shell exist - not sure I need a new cli tool
i’m a dinosaur. how dare you suggest a better tool.
these kids and their zoxide tools will fold like cheap suits the moment they try to manage an older system.
Can you show this integrating with KDE dolphin's terminal? would we have to alias cd to z in our shell?
could be quite the power combo
I have a Qwertz Keyboard and i will not in a million years break my left hand just to type the letter z 24/7
alias it to cd
Hey Chris, could you share your thoughts about new tiny11?
how did you configure dark theme in dolphin, Chris?
This is very much a linux desktop poweruser, arch btw, kinda perspective. As a sysadmin, this isn't even close to being viable. Ctrl+R in bash works just as fast - and does so inside pods in Kubernetes, production systems running on Debian 6 - all kinds of things. You'd have to install z on about a dozen servers daily, and on a good chunk of them you'd have to compile it yourself (if it even manages to compile). Unix userspace is great when you took the time to master the fundamentals - what I'm seeing here and with a lot of these tools, is tools made by new people who skipped the fundamentals and reinvented the wheel in a slightly different UX that's wildly incompatible with others, is not packaged/maintained, or requires some effort to set up that you just can't afford when working with Linux 9-5. So - no, this is not replacing cd anytime soon. For your customized desktop - sure. For one of the hundreds of throwaway docker container images, k8s pods, clients servers, embedded systems - not so much, bash and cd does the job just as well.
It's pretty obvious that you install software like this on your personal rig not production servers...
@@bobbybologna3029 I prefer my personal rig to match my production servers except where it doesn't make sense to. There is no reason to have a different change-directory command in both, so I use the os native one everywhere.
I will put newer versions of stuff on my personal rig first to test it out before rolling it out to production.
While the "learn the basics" stuff needs to be said more (and rank higher in search results)... Do you not have tooling for pushing software to all your machines under management? Or just thinking you'd need too many different builds and deployment strategies?
Came here to say the same. I like to keep my personal machine basic tools to be vanilla as possible. I don't want to shift my muscle memory while working with servers and personal machine. I think this video is more inclined towards tech enthusiasts
I agree that production servers shall mantain a standard in order to manage all them the same way, but all these tools that are "reinventing the wheel" (in rust lol) gives the user a better way to interact with the machine on it's daily tasks
As always with technology, gotta use the right tool for the job, and on my Home PC this utility might be worth trying
When will there be an OpenBSD video?
Good video! I got similar functionality with aliases and scripts; I have created aliases for my most used things (not just folders), so I can do pretty much anything typing a word or even a letter.
I always found it so slow to navigate using cd.
Thankfully this tool may solve this.
How do you find such cool projects, Titus?
I steal them from youtube comments and twitch chat during live streams LOL!
zoxide, I have been using it for a while now. Less typing with paths 3 layers deep, so why not?
this makes me no longer need file explorers....even terminal file browsers become obsolete with this
you forgot to add article link in description
so it is the fish shell with it's memory added to cd
I created my own cd function in Bash which switches to the directory and then clears the screen and does my formatted ls. Saves a tonne of time. And I also added a bunch of custom functions for switching to various directories and doing ls: - goes to previous directory, . is equivalent to ls (think of it as "switch to current directory and list files"), .. goes to the parent dir, ... goes to the parent of the parent dir, and so on.
Edit:
Two notes: 1.) My custom cd doesn't clear the screen or do the ls if there was any error switching to the directory, and 2.) I have always used "source" instead of "." when including a file in Bash, so I don't mind replacing the "." command.
I added ls to chpwd, but i might add clear also as that sounds like good too
I also added . to be ls if no args and .. to cd .. so i could do . .. . .. hehe
Love this tool!
2 major thing missed:
You can alias the z command using init, ex: `z init --cmd cd`
You can nest searches `z git web` would fuzzy search for first git and then web. Highest ranked match wins
I have been using zi and z in powershell a lot on my office laptop. I haven't needed it on my home pc which is using linux and have a nice collection of jump scripts.
Yeah, using this couple of years now. It's awesome.
That's what I'm talking about!! Showing me something I didn't know i needed, and I now, I expect, I won't be able to live with out. Much better. Thanks for being open to criticism!
Or skip extra databases and complications and use the built in 'cd' that comes bundled and is simple
I'm using zoxide few months already and it's awesome, also suggested to few my friends (we are kind of geeks with terminal), one tool I would suggest is 'eza' replacement for basic 'ls', it will make the basic ls command more colourful.
You could name it `e` for having a superior position than `cd` in the keyboard.
That thumbnail 😆🤣😆🤣so many meanings😂
Thanks! My ArchLinux installation already had z installed but I did not know about it! Thanks!
no thanks, I like my software to be crash-free while also keeping my data safe
I don't want to do mental gymnastic to remember which folder I went that have the same name of another folder and use zi instead of z in that case
I just use... autocomplete
"You don't tell me what to do, Batman!" -Dollar Store Bane
At the beginning of the video, you sound like the guy reading "The missile knows where it is at all times..." XD
I'm liking the video just because the thumbnail made me smile 😆
"You can install it on Windows, Linux and Mac. We'll install it on both." 😎
I've been using zoxide for a while, but I've used env variables to change the commands to cd and cdi because my dinosaur brain thinks z is weird and I've been using cd since dos
I had to make a function to fix some problems i have with z and then aliased that function to cd.
Now for me it works just perfectly
you can do exactly that by using:
eval "$(zoxide init --cmd cd zsh)" in your zshrc
this automatically replaces cd with zoxide and creates the cdi command
Just use: alias cd='z'
Honestly at this point I dont even use any of the core utility commands for my OS'es and install faster alternatives like these, though I do like to "command hop" like distro hopping for each one of them, actually i might have 5 cd alternatives installed on my system at any given time, i end up getting a package update every 3 seconds on rolling release but its worth it imo
Hopefully in the future i can just have a piece of software mathematically proven to be the most optimized possible for the specific silicon of my CPU even the binning and stuff for that extra boost, but I guess we're still stuck in the stone ages. I actually have 5 server racks cracking away on all the permutations for changing directories in terminal to get even better than z, so far nothing though after 15 years
Ive actually e-mailed intel and AMD begging them to add an accelerated changing directory chiplet on their packages but no luck. I bet you could easily get better than Z with that but until the tech is there in hardware I guess we're stick with these clunky software solutions
How fast do you guys think we can make changing directories if we achieve artificial superintelligence? Probably at least twice as fast as Z right? Might as well wait for that to happen
Awesome tutorial on an awesome utility, cool 👍
I'm an old school guy and for those super long dirs I just have aliases, but this is very powerful and I assume much to the liking of the young.
My humble opinion is that you should use starship. Firstly its actually usefull and not a waster of horizontal space. And not a waster vertical if you configure it. But the bedt part is the git integration.
If you have Pacman set up on your Steam Deck, Zoxide is in the repos!
I am also using pushd and popd 😅
All you got to do is alias in your config file. Great program to put a Trojan in.
Also make a video on project idx
Just alias z to CD so you don't have to worry about the CD brain muscle memory
nah... its better to be explicit.
if you type "z some folder" and you have ambiguity and then you ASSUME you are on one folder but youre in another... bad things could happen
if I want convenience I just use GUI, for searching just find and grep etc, tab to auto complete, seems fine
I tried z and it was way too unreliable. Instead of failing to cd into directory that doesn't exist, z would take me into completely different folder than i wanted. I uninstalled it but i encourage you to try it for yourself
yes i wanna do things slow and will use CD, learning these new commands which aren't worth it to learn for the benefits are pointless to me.
Isn't Thorium really bad?
I will continue to be a dinosour, I would still be using ex for vi if I could as I am happy with regular expressions and sed.
No thanks, I'm a dinosaur. The standard commands are so burned into my brain that muscle memory automatically takes me wherever I want to be. Plus, I work on so many systems that I don't want to have to install new stuff all the time, or try to rely on something that's not already installed.
to not screw up your muscle memory you can use the following in your zshrc:
eval "$(zoxide init --cmd cd zsh)"
this will overwrite cd to be zoxide
also, cdi replaces zi.
i've been running this for the last month or so it's great!
Pretty cool, not a lot of use cases for me though.
I used Norton Commander 35 years ago already so I didn't have to type "cd".
Yep, I'm a dinosaur. And I'll keep using cd, because I don't like this confusion with z, having everytime paying attention where I am and accidently being transported to. Could be a tool from Microsoft, causing only more confusion.
I am going to stay a dinosaur. My cd is a function in my .bashrc that also _ls -A_ Also I have _cdspell_ shopt on. And a couple of more functions like _.. 3_ gets me up 3 directories. Plus the native _cd -_ to jump back and forth between directories is good enough for me.
Great vid 👍 thanks.
alias z/zi to cd/cdi to cover 'involuntary' muscle memory.
Thanks for the recommend! As a dinosaur, tho, I'd prolly alias Z to CD, heh.
idk if its worth changing to since i have been familiar with cd and it serves me fine there isnt an issue to switch for me but this is definitely cool project, people who bash on this one with the old conservative reason like "if it aint broke doesnt fix it" are definitely wrong, linux/unix wouldnt be like today if we didnt do anything, alot of updates didnt come because something is broken
Looks nice, but I might use it the day it can index my hard drives instead of having to add each folder to the list manually
hard drives? we use ssds now old man
@@JoshuaCaseyStorage if you will. I use both solid and mechanic drives at this point. I don't need expensive storage for everything and also, solid storage only offer a few TBs of capacity
I've always just used short aliases to cd to the 5-10 well known directories. Like "t" to get me to my local tmp dir.
Quite interesting thing!
Thanks!
Thanks Chris, but I'll stick with cd. I work with many systems, many are not mine, so becoming dependent on an add-in is a bad idea. Sure, I have super user access, but I don't like adding things to systems that are not mine. Besides that, anything added to a server is just another potential point of access.
5:06 😂😂😂 he used cd again
I think Titus need to find more video ideas, this was totally wasted time
Dinosaur reporting in!
I'm a simple man. I see cd, I use cd.
great tool and does the work fast
I'm Denver the CDiplodocus 🦕
why z? cd means change directory. it makes more sense. there is no point saving typing 1 letter to make things incomprehsible
Nah I will stick with cd, because zoxide is nice, but the flaw is, you have to have gone to that directory first.
Usually when I am CLI'ing and going in there, it is often the first time such as a game under Linux that I need to tweak permissions, change something... Or the biggest sin of them all, mess around with .bat files for mods where you have to work the Wine Command Line, and there you do not have anything other than plain old cd.
Then I sometimes do retro computing, and there is no zoxide for DOS naturally.
It is Set-Location on Windows now rather than cd 🤪
Don't tell me what to do, you're not my boss 😡
z is half the characterd of cd so I guess it's 50% faster to type
next video Nushell, linux is Rustifying
This thumbnail
Just use Fish or Zsh.
Hopefully zoxide has a nice backdoor.😁
But I am an old man.
yea... no.
this is only for those who jumps between every OS and don't work on production environments... a minority within a minority.
I'm old aF, in computer terms, so...
This cool thanks for sharing.
But I use an alias 💔
Not a fan of any Z or V
Thanks. I am indeed a dinosaur. :) Anyway thanks for this. I did not know about this.
i still use CD for music lol
Also alias it lmao.
Less is more.
Ah April fools must've came late for you Chris
l am too old to learn new commands