@@wildfire9280 I mean the sea is huge so I'm sure part of it does. I'm almost certain though that they don't live in that area. I'm pretty sure that they live not too far away from Japan, mainly due to all of their Japanese architecture. If I had to guess where in japan though, I'd say they're probably close to Okinawa prefecture since some of those islands they visit seem reminiscent of a few of the islands in Okinawa prefecture, also starfruit is grown in the islands of Okinawa prefecture. Can't really confirm whether or not it is actually Okinawa though, but I'm certain that they're somewhere near Japan. Which means that insurance does not cover the cost of therapy (from a licensed counselor).
Originally watching this, I thought Sal was ripping Wadanohara apart or somethin'. But after reading everyone's comments I can definitely see the more suggestive undertones... (...Yeah, they aren't subtle at *all*.)
thats why i like suck end. i like it and didn't like such of End. I like it becaus it gives me Pain in the heart, I dont like it because it Gives me pain in the Heart. Like "the Witch's House" and "Aria's Stories" if you get the real end first without getting Bad or Good ending first.
It was mentioned in another comment conversation that the comic extra may give the perception Sal did rape her. I read the comics online. The panel starts out with Sal being very genki as he skips around the Dead Sea and even commenting that maybe he'll "make love to Wadanohara". o.o i found his word usage to be too direct for my liking. He overhears Evil Wadanohara being asked by Princess Mikotsu how her relationship with Sal is going. And Wadanohara says it's good, but Sal is a little "fast". Upon first reading it, it was obviously referencing him sexually, but at the time I didn't make the connection between that and the "alleged" in-game rape scene. At the time, the comic line was funny to me, but now I just feel disturbed. Mogeko sure likes to fuck with our heads...
@Commieblin Oh man you just made me remind of this game and this ending after 4 years. The innocent me first time learning about NTR and cuckolding. It was awful. The game is still very well rewritten. Everything is so detailed and graphic. But the most people (also me in the past) really didn't expect this happening.
Also, at least Mogeko handled rape as a very serious topic and didn't pass it off in a way like "oh and this horrible thing happened to her." If you want to know how bad a story can handle rape, take the creepypasta "Clockwork: Your Time is Up." Id be upset if someone attacked this game for its rape scene and then defended that piece of garbage because it didn't show rape.
I honestly didn't have much of a problem with Mogeko using rape in this scene. I'm 23 and while rape is a very sensitive subject, it could of been handled worse. First off, this doesn't really come out of nowhere if you paid attention to the flashback scene where Sal tricks Wadanohara, people probably would of seen this coming. I guess some people would argue that Mogeko should of allowed others to skip this ending in some way and while I would agree with them, one has to remember this one fact: Mogeko is from Japan. Based on my knowledge, censors aren't as strict in Japan as they are in America. He isn't trying to cater to people outside of his country. I know many others would be offended by this sort of thing and that's understandable. But to all those who think this scene is horrible, first look up what the R-15 rating actually means in Japan and then read why he rated his game R-15.
MrTherandomguy42, as a woman, I had no problem with this being showed in the game. It was horrifying, yes, but it was supposed to be. That was the point. It’s the bad ending. That beings said: What the fuck. I will probably be thinking about this for a very long time and probably have night terrors. But y’know what? Well fucking done for disturbing me more than any horror movie could have. Christ, just knowing Wadanohara was subjected to it is fucking awful. I still don’t quite understand how he raped her into being evil wtf......
Mikotsu is probably just misunderstood, like Tosatsu was, and probably isn't a bad person at all, excluding the whole Sea of Death thing and the dead fishes. Sure seemed like it to me. I mean, she wasn't picked by her father, and she never found out why. She didn't even hurt Uomi, and suddenly ended up covered in blood. What was that all about? The only thing I really have against her is that she hired a shit ambassador, I mean, Sal didn't even give a rat's ass when he found her. He should have been fired years ago.
Maybe Mikotsu wanted to know why she wasn't picked. But remember what Uomi said to her. "You don't know... Then you never will understand why Father didn't pick you." Perhaps Uomi considered the reason she was picked over Mikotsu, if there was a proper reason at all, to be irrelevant since they are now enemies. It's true we didn't see what exactly happened after the conversation, but I theorize Uomi attacked first to eliminate her sister before Mikotsu, whether she was planning to or not, could attack her back. Yeah, agreed about Sal. He barely had a reaction when Mikotsu died. In the comic extra, he calls himself and Samekichi "pawns of the Sea King", but I think Sal used Mikotsu as a pawn, too. In the game, he used the excuse that he is helping the sealed princess exact revenge, but you see even after she's gone, all he really cares about is corrupting everything and everyone.
According to the backstory, their father picked Uomi over Mikotsu because Uomi was the serious one and Mikotsu was the slacker. He actually thought he was doing Mikotsu a favor by not picking her; she wouldn't have to deal with the responsibility of being the ruler of the sea and could continue living as she was. But Mikotsu concluded that Uomi was picked because their father loved her more, and thus started the war...
Fukami should have had more dialogue in bad ending 2. I expected him to say something like "Samekichi...always that darn Samekichi...what about me, Wadanohara?! I always looked at you but you never turned around to see me" such stuff. Instead, we just look at text like "guaaagh! cough! hack!" In the previous version of the game he didn't snap back at all to see what he has done. We only see Sal behind him for a split second and are supposed to guess he's being possesed. Because of that most people think Fumaki's just a psycho or yandere type of character. I mean, seriously, this guy was one of my favorite characters in the game but most of his fanart is him in killer mode.
I feel the same. I'd have liked if his jealousy-induced rage(I assume it is? Was he jealous of Samekichi??) was more fleshed out here aside from (.........) when Wada chose to follow Samekichi. More internal dialogue from him would have been nice.
Cherry Saku in the bonus room we see his profile : "likes : Wadanohara hates : Samekichi jealous of Samekichi for stealing away Wada's attention" pretty straightforward, isn't it? Also, there's a special bonus scene there showing where exactly the ocarina went...who took it precisely.
Oh, I haven't seen the bonus room yet, just going along with the videos that Manly put up, but I'm glad I guessed right then! ^^ Oh Fukami.... the poor poor guy. ;;
most underated character in this series in my opinion. I mean, when it comes to deranged tragic characters in this game the fans always meantion Sal and what do we know about him that makes him look sad? What are his motives? Why does he want to kill everything in existence? Is he jealous of Samekichi? Does he hate the princesses? Does he think the sea looks more fashionable when it's red?
Same. I love Fukami. He's my fave. Bah, I despise Sal and do not sympathize with him in ANY way. He's irredeemable and just pure evil in my eyes, Nothing excuses his vile and cruel acts, towards everyone and especially Wadanohara. Nothing. Not even a sad backstory. And since he went about setting up the events in the game like he just wanted to screw everyone over for laughs...disgusting creature. Deranged, hell yeah. Tragic? Nah.
There is indeed a "true" ending, but can only be obtained after the player goes through two bad endings. You see the only option is to "Trust Sal", but if the game ending is played past the credits and the same scene with Sal is replayed, there be another option that says, "Don't Trust Sal", which gives the player another bad ending. Repeat by letting the game run the ending till after the credits, and replay the same scene with Sal again. There should be a third option when Sal gives his creepy offer. It'll give Wadanohara to respond with, "....". And it's from that option that the true ending is obtained. I won't give spoilers about what happens during the true ending, but let's just say that ending in particular is more pleasing than the two bad endings.
+MOTHREFUKCING WEISS GUERTENA BITCHES WHAT UP Because mogeko loves to make us cry with bad options first XD And make us cry harder with the proper endings!
The combat being ridiculously easy could have been fixed, but the battle with Sal, where the fighting doesn't stop him from violating Wadanohara, actually provides a nice counterpoint to the rest of the game. It's also VERY realistic for a rape scene-the victims, in real life, often try to fight off their attackers in vain.
Then you won't like to see the second normal ending: we'll have to go through it before seeing the true ending (It should be the good one...). Both Normal endings (1 and 2) are pretty bad...
Chivi-chivik M@ngaka! I'm just wondering why Mogeko thought it was a good idea to put you through Normal End 1 before showing you the other 2 endings. x_x
More games should do this, its not comfortable, but the bad guys dont always just get defeated in the end by the good guys, just because they have protagonist armor.
_Well, just another "Normal" ending under the sea..._ The characters continue to be so well drawn including their personalities... Like the horn as a beanie on Sheep (6:35) - so cute! Felt strangely sad for Tsuribari (11:28) when he said “we the abandoned ones are no match…” The bad end with Fukami was a shock! Did not expect betrayal… it seemed as though the Sea of Death caused him to be possessed by evil, taken over by insanity. I wondered, because briefly he was real self again & horrified at his actions - would that be something that happens to him? Becoming normal & remembering before reverting again to evil? That is very sad fate indeed… It was right & fitting that Wadanohara had to face Sal in the Old Sea by herself without her familiars… forcing home the point that by her strength alone she would win or lose on the unwavering path she chose - leading right into Sal’s psychotically loving fins. Clever to see how much he enjoyed being attacked & fooling Wadanohara into thinking she actually was saving anything. The saddest part to me was not her fate - she chose it & the pain it entailed. The saddest part was Samekichi witnessing it - seeing her become the crazed bride of Death. It is a strange complement to say that you did well portraying a character so hateful & evil, but you did well, MBH...
I waited to see what you would say. Nicely put. You could argue this wasn't a bad ending at all. The heroine was alive. Those who weren't dead turned evil and the hero was still alive. It was a good ending but with the wrong people together. So you weren't bothered by her being attacked just by Samekichi's reaction. I think I might have felt worse for her than him. I probably would have preferred no voicing of the parts here, but I'm an old-fashioned guy.
GreengoLight2 Of course it was a bad end!! She was tricked out of her mind & her innocence - I believe that more than qualifies it as a bad end.... Oh sure, it's all _happily ever after_ with a brutalized insane heroine living with the guy who made her that way & the real hero helplessly witnessing it. Hardly a "good ending" no matter how you want to define it. I felt the greater cruelty was in Samekichi's living with the knowledge ~ felt that poor Wadanohara was spared mental pain after becoming the Red Witch.
Took you a while to watch. I was surprised considering how fast you usually watch things. Not that I notice much. Heh. Sal is a good villain actually. He is in love though not just driven by power. He probably would be better at being evil if he wasn't so much in love with Wadanohara. But it's impressive to get your woman, make her believe she's happy, and mess up your rival's head completely. Not bad for a shark. You did say I'm a shark. -~~~//\~~~-
I played this game before I knew Manlybadass, and at first I thought Sal was brainwashing Wadanohara, but then a year later, I re watched it and realized Sal was actually raping her..
Ooh, the Betrayal Ending was a surprise. Poor Fukami, left to deal with the guilt alone in a ruined world with only Sal and his allies as company. He's obviously possessed when he does that, but I imagine he's just giving into despair afterwards. Then we got the Normal Ending... I have to admit, despite the horrible way it came about and the general sadness of it, I do dig Evil Wadanohara's design.
xD yay im not alone , the shark kids are so cute X3 ,and yeh like JB :l like seriously he has been in jail , and people still are fan girls for him ( PS i wanna Shrimp daddy too even thou he is married XD )
most comments in this comments section: *traumatized by/discussing the ethics of the rape scene* You: "...that's not a sheep...?" XD lol just loved the contrast
Oh....Fukami...was he possessed by Sal or did he just lose control and get influenced by the Sea of Death/his jealousy/something? Because if he took this path willingly like Sal said he wouldn't be questioning himself saying "Did I do this..?", right..? As for the how you're forced to get Normal End 1 first...just wow. I'm.... /sits down silently
I believe his jealousy exploded and that made him vulnerable to the sea's effects taking him over. He definitely was possessed when he killed his friends and Wadanohara. I believe Sal said Fukami chose this path willingly because that jealousy was Fukami's true emotion coming to the surface, even though he killed his friends while under the influence of the sea's corrupt power. And how Fukami basically stopped resisting and became evil... I interpret it was the sea corrupting him because he's so vulnerable and has lost his friends and Wadanohara. Yes, Fukami does indeed like Wadanohara in a romantic light. This is elaborated a little more in the true ending, and also in the bonus room when you check Fukami's character icon, which details his perceived rivalry with Samekichi for Wadanohara's affections. In a video extra, Fukami also does something special for Wadanohara that comes into play in the true ending.
silentstarz16 I thought it was rather sad for the Betrayal ending. Fukami does indeed love Wadanohara in the romantic sense but even before and after her curse that messed up her memories somewhat, she still held Samekichi in a high light (even when at first he seemed like he was just trying to kill them) and kept her true feelings bottled up. Wadanohara always had a bad habbit of not properly expressing herself. She tends to keep her troubles and pains to herself and often lies (mostly when Samekichi is involved) to avoid others worrying about her but when it just does the opposite. Fukami always tries to act like nothing really bothers him but you can see whenever Wadanohara is hiding something or just plains lies or refuse to talk to them about something, Fukami just has to hold more frustrations and worries each time. After a while, those "...." starts to look less emotionless and more like frustration. Like, it's the same bs she's trying to feed them or not feeling comfortable and trusting enough to express her troubles to them. (like lying to them to go see Samekichi secretly or about the headaches she downplayed) I can see why at that point he lost it. Even when their entire sea is at risk of being taken over and Samekichi himself tells them to go on without him, she put him first among all others (if you chose to go after him when he gets dragged away that is). It was always Samekichi to Wadanohara and he got so sick of it he must have wanted to hurt her (or at least smack her for always being so unreasonable) it was just thanks to the sea of death's influence that his hidden dark desires came flowing out. Maybe he just wanted to give her a little squeeze, but it kept growing, growing to where he wanted to squeeze harder, and harder. Added to the fact that he was the only thing on her mind as he was squeezing her to death, he kept going, feeding both his dark desires of hurting her and his romantic ones of being the main one in Wadanohara's mind besides Samekichi. Even though he reasonably never wanted to hurt any one of them, he couldn't deny the fact that deep down, he held such dark thoughts towards her. Actually, I was wondering since Fukami and Sal couldn't earn Wadanohara's love and them talking to each other in the bad ending, that Sal was the one who hurt her mentally (the curse) and Fukami would be the one to hurt her physically (betrayal ending)
I definitely think it's corruption; if you look behind Fukami, you can briefly see Sal in his shark form right before he starts killing; I think, like silentstarz said, Sal took advantage of his jealously to corrupt him and 'wake him up' like what he did to Wadanohara (and what Mikotsu tried to do to her before Meikai intervened).
I'm starting to wonder why the Sea King didn't just split the Blue Sea into two so both princesses could each rule over each part as they like. I mean... It was mentioned way back in one of the early videos that the problem of the Sea King choosing an heir to inherit the throne came up because of the fact he has two daughters. That's be more than enough reason to change the rules and just let both of them rule each half of the Blue Sea and have equal power. I don't really understand what Princess Uomi was alluding to when she said Princess Mikotsu would never know the reason their father didn't choose her as heir and therefore would never understand??? Was Uomi basically saying if there was a reason she was chosen over Mikotsu, the reason itself is completely irrelevant since they are now enemies?
I think the rape scenes from Mogeko’s castle is far worse than this. But i do agree that it is painful to Go all through this first before getting the good ending
D-did Sal just.... Did he really just raped Wadanohora this time? Oh god, my reading eye hurt, I couldn't tell if it was that one ending where if impaled her with the sword, torture her or raped her.
If you guys ever watched/read Berserk, this ending will give you those vibes. Sal is Griffith, Wadanohara is Casca, and Samekichi is Guts. This is some fucked up shit tho since Wadanohara is basically a kid so to speak. Mogeko why?
If someone is wondering, there's two other endings, the normal 2 and the true ending, so dont be sad and complete the other ones if you want a happy ending lol You have to complete the first two endings to get the true one, good luck :D
+Joan Cheng Weren't those his....weird....tenticle thingies? I mean if you look at his shark form, you can see weird tenticle/eel things coming from his back/tail area. ...I...well at least I hope that's what they are. Either way, it's gross ._.
Oh, great. I thought that the scene in the flashback would go "THAT" way. I was glad it didn't. And then it happened here.. AS A NORMAL ENDING 1 ?! WTF, dude. That scene is Berserk all over again.
This is so messed up but I still enjoyed it. I love how this thing made a huge turn from how it was originally. Though I hope to see a different ending soon.
Man when you realize that wadda was already corrupted by mikotsu and was only broken further (also ntr'd) by sal really makes it more terrifying and sad
I was thinking that you'll send the three endings together. êe Oh well... just saying (like for many people), that ending revolted me. But I guess this is a truly "bad ending" after all. Really, Mogeko... you did an excellent job. ='=
...........................................WHAT THE SERIOUS FUCK KINDA ENDING WAS THAT.....I EXECPTED A HAPPY ENDING NOT......THIS.....*cries in corner*
the true ending is the best at this game (wanadohara and the great blue sea) so emotional satesfied and make u believe that its bad but theres a special moment that made u feel better u should see this
Michi Lynn The true ending of this game is, But yeah I cried a little at Witch's house ending. I hated that game for the ending. -Spoilers- -Godess of the blue sea-
When Sal got on her I thought he was going to eat her head but after looking at what wadanohara was saying when the screen went red I was like, "Yup. rape. someone needs Jesus whoever made this game ;-;"
Incase that normal ending wasn't bad enough, I leave you this paragraph from the Watgbs endings page from the Ogekom wiki. "During a livestream, it was revealed almost all of the Blue Sea inhabitants were indeed killed. Their slaughtered bodies were piled in the Old Sea and left there untouched. The way they died was unspeakably terrible. Some of them may not even be in their original form due to the bitterness and hatred of the Red Sea. Wadanohara just watched from the sidelines. The last survivor besides Samekichi was Fukami, who was decapitated by her. In particular, the way Memoca, Dolpi, and Fukami died bear a striking resemblance to the nightmares Wadanohara had in-game." :/
That ending with Fukami is the type of ending I don't like. Because there is an element to it that sticks around even if the ending isn't canon. It seems to imply that Fukami is really like that deep down and wasn't being controlled, so it's always there. It's hard to trust him now. That's something that will ruin him in the rest of the game.
Man, I knew you're laughs would be worth viewing this game again although I just played it! XD B..But that scene is just as hard to stomach even though I knew it was coming.. eeughhhhh.. ;o;
A friend of mine in their in game room had all these pictures all over the room and a self made skin of of Sal and I only watched this now so all I thought before watching this was "Well, I guess he's pretty cute." And now well... uh Now I must go and question my taste in friends.
It’s funny. Now that I remembered this whole thing is a flashback told by present wadanohara when she tells us the 2 bad and 2 normal endings I just imagine the words “ wait that can’t be right”😂
This is fucking Mogeko, of course there's rape.......... Sal loves Wadanohara too, in his own deranged and fucked up way. Because he might have been interrupted the first time in the case, I think in this ending he finishes the job and takes full advantage of her, while prying upon her weak and broken mental state to corrupt her, the way Fukami is corrupted in the other bad end. There's also the bonus character bio where Dead Sea Wada's hobby is XXX (and her interest in sex in the bonus comics :'( ), and the radio show where the host says something along the lines of "Wanted your first time to be Samekichi, huh?" .........I /want/ to think that I'm reading too heavily into it, but I can't imagine that it's not meant to make us think the worst..... :'S
I hope i'm not the only one, but as soon as it got up to 37:42 i could feel myself cry a little... ;_; i was expecting it but i guess i just wasn't ready for it.
There should be a "Wadanohara and the Many Trips to Therapy" game ._.;
Yeep...
Rin Zakuro OMG you’re so right
The really terrifying part is that insurance doesn't cover it either.
@@draconic5129 Depends. Is the Great Blue Sea in American waters?
@@wildfire9280 I mean the sea is huge so I'm sure part of it does. I'm almost certain though that they don't live in that area. I'm pretty sure that they live not too far away from Japan, mainly due to all of their Japanese architecture.
If I had to guess where in japan though, I'd say they're probably close to Okinawa prefecture since some of those islands they visit seem reminiscent of a few of the islands in Okinawa prefecture, also starfruit is grown in the islands of Okinawa prefecture. Can't really confirm whether or not it is actually Okinawa though, but I'm certain that they're somewhere near Japan. Which means that insurance does not cover the cost of therapy (from a licensed counselor).
Originally watching this, I thought Sal was ripping Wadanohara apart or somethin'. But after reading everyone's comments I can definitely see the more suggestive undertones... (...Yeah, they aren't subtle at *all*.)
Same ;-;
what tumbler post@nameunknown8441
It would’ve been SOO Much better if it was Sal ripping wadda apart and putting a spell on wadda which made her physically hurt.
To be fair based on the lore it's possible it's just torture with a spell
If Sal had a voice actor you could be his voice. like dayum
He does the personality and acting pretty right, but it doesn't fit Sal's character.
I feel like this should've been called a bad ending, not a normal one. Because in no way is this normal.
well smhw when you die to the Panda whale guy its a special ending
B-But why tho? I'd have never thought of hearing someone call Idate a "panda whale"
I guess it’s normal because wadda the main character is “happy”
Actually all Mogeko's normel endings are awful.....
thats why i like suck end. i like it and didn't like such of End. I like it becaus it gives me Pain in the heart, I dont like it because it Gives me pain in the Heart.
Like "the Witch's House" and "Aria's Stories" if you get the real end first without getting Bad or Good ending first.
Gonna need a lot of cat videos to recover from this.
Scrofar add some dog videos too
Sooo...was Wadanohara raped by Sal during those last 5 minutes? If so, then that's f-ed up man.
Still waiting for the good endings.
I think Sal would have wanted to finish what he started, before Samekichi interrupted him, so....yeah.
Cherry Saku That's some hentai crap right there....
It was mentioned in another comment conversation that the comic extra may give the perception Sal did rape her. I read the comics online. The panel starts out with Sal being very genki as he skips around the Dead Sea and even commenting that maybe he'll "make love to Wadanohara". o.o i found his word usage to be too direct for my liking. He overhears Evil Wadanohara being asked by Princess Mikotsu how her relationship with Sal is going. And Wadanohara says it's good, but Sal is a little "fast". Upon first reading it, it was obviously referencing him sexually, but at the time I didn't make the connection between that and the "alleged" in-game rape scene. At the time, the comic line was funny to me, but now I just feel disturbed. Mogeko sure likes to fuck with our heads...
Zehndolf (Dolphi voice) Never.....forgive.....
Yeah... i was scared that Wadanohara got raped right in front of Samekichi... that is *fucked up* if so....
Really. Twice, Sal?
Right in front of Samekichi, too...
What was sal doing to wadanohara?!
+KnightGirlGamer 81 listening to the sound she makes when sal has her is pretty obvious
+Koby Fernandez i heard punches so i thought of something else
KnightGirlGamer 81 Oh, no no. It's much worse.
This is the stuff that got Mogeko in trouble with angry fans.
+Naminé good point
This is...... very unsettling. It legitimately gives me chills.
@Commieblin Oh man you just made me remind of this game and this ending after 4 years.
The innocent me first time learning about NTR and cuckolding. It was awful.
The game is still very well rewritten. Everything is so detailed and graphic. But the most people (also me in the past) really didn't expect this happening.
Also, at least Mogeko handled rape as a very serious topic and didn't pass it off in a way like "oh and this horrible thing happened to her." If you want to know how bad a story can handle rape, take the creepypasta "Clockwork: Your Time is Up." Id be upset if someone attacked this game for its rape scene and then defended that piece of garbage because it didn't show rape.
I honestly didn't have much of a problem with Mogeko using rape in this scene. I'm 23 and while rape is a very sensitive subject, it could of been handled worse. First off, this doesn't really come out of nowhere if you paid attention to the flashback scene where Sal tricks Wadanohara, people probably would of seen this coming. I guess some people would argue that Mogeko should of allowed others to skip this ending in some way and while I would agree with them, one has to remember this one fact: Mogeko is from Japan. Based on my knowledge, censors aren't as strict in Japan as they are in America. He isn't trying to cater to people outside of his country. I know many others would be offended by this sort of thing and that's understandable. But to all those who think this scene is horrible, first look up what the R-15 rating actually means in Japan and then read why he rated his game R-15.
MrTherandomguy42, as a woman, I had no problem with this being showed in the game. It was horrifying, yes, but it was supposed to be. That was the point. It’s the bad ending.
That beings said:
What the fuck.
I will probably be thinking about this for a very long time and probably have night terrors. But y’know what? Well fucking done for disturbing me more than any horror movie could have. Christ, just knowing Wadanohara was subjected to it is fucking awful. I still don’t quite understand how he raped her into being evil wtf......
@@rouka120That way is mindbreak and ntr at the same time.... I am still frustrated, knowing Wada involved in that fucking stuff......
@@rouka120 I know Sal raping Wadanohara was supposed to extract her memories, but I’m not sure as to how exactly.
It’s pretty gratuitous and there are no means of skipping it to finish the game, if there were I doubt this would’ve ever been controversial
The first I saw this game an thinking it was cute, boy I was wrong...
Mikotsu is probably just misunderstood, like Tosatsu was, and probably isn't a bad person at all, excluding the whole Sea of Death thing and the dead fishes. Sure seemed like it to me. I mean, she wasn't picked by her father, and she never found out why. She didn't even hurt Uomi, and suddenly ended up covered in blood. What was that all about? The only thing I really have against her is that she hired a shit ambassador, I mean, Sal didn't even give a rat's ass when he found her. He should have been fired years ago.
Maybe Mikotsu wanted to know why she wasn't picked. But remember what Uomi said to her. "You don't know... Then you never will understand why Father didn't pick you." Perhaps Uomi considered the reason she was picked over Mikotsu, if there was a proper reason at all, to be irrelevant since they are now enemies. It's true we didn't see what exactly happened after the conversation, but I theorize Uomi attacked first to eliminate her sister before Mikotsu, whether she was planning to or not, could attack her back.
Yeah, agreed about Sal. He barely had a reaction when Mikotsu died. In the comic extra, he calls himself and Samekichi "pawns of the Sea King", but I think Sal used Mikotsu as a pawn, too. In the game, he used the excuse that he is helping the sealed princess exact revenge, but you see even after she's gone, all he really cares about is corrupting everything and everyone.
According to the backstory, their father picked Uomi over Mikotsu because Uomi was the serious one and Mikotsu was the slacker. He actually thought he was doing Mikotsu a favor by not picking her; she wouldn't have to deal with the responsibility of being the ruler of the sea and could continue living as she was. But Mikotsu concluded that Uomi was picked because their father loved her more, and thus started the war...
Fukami should have had more dialogue in bad ending 2. I expected him to say something like "Samekichi...always that darn Samekichi...what about me, Wadanohara?! I always looked at you but you never turned around to see me" such stuff. Instead, we just look at text like "guaaagh! cough! hack!" In the previous version of the game he didn't snap back at all to see what he has done. We only see Sal behind him for a split second and are supposed to guess he's being possesed. Because of that most people think Fumaki's just a psycho or yandere type of character. I mean, seriously, this guy was one of my favorite characters in the game but most of his fanart is him in killer mode.
I feel the same. I'd have liked if his jealousy-induced rage(I assume it is? Was he jealous of Samekichi??) was more fleshed out here aside from (.........) when Wada chose to follow Samekichi. More internal dialogue from him would have been nice.
Cherry Saku in the bonus room we see his profile :
"likes : Wadanohara
hates : Samekichi
jealous of Samekichi for stealing away Wada's attention"
pretty straightforward, isn't it? Also, there's a special bonus scene there showing where exactly the ocarina went...who took it precisely.
Oh, I haven't seen the bonus room yet, just going along with the videos that Manly put up, but I'm glad I guessed right then! ^^
Oh Fukami.... the poor poor guy. ;;
most underated character in this series in my opinion. I mean, when it comes to deranged tragic characters in this game the fans always meantion Sal and what do we know about him that makes him look sad? What are his motives? Why does he want to kill everything in existence? Is he jealous of Samekichi? Does he hate the princesses? Does he think the sea looks more fashionable when it's red?
Same. I love Fukami. He's my fave.
Bah, I despise Sal and do not sympathize with him in ANY way. He's irredeemable and just pure evil in my eyes, Nothing excuses his vile and cruel acts, towards everyone and especially Wadanohara. Nothing. Not even a sad backstory. And since he went about setting up the events in the game like he just wanted to screw everyone over for laughs...disgusting creature. Deranged, hell yeah. Tragic? Nah.
*sees only the trust Sal option*
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH DX
You missed a few, there's also Trust Sal and Trust Sal.
You should really Trust Sal.
NOOOOOO DX there has to be a better option for the real ending!!!!! I hope there is!!! Barnacles!!!!!!
There is indeed a "true" ending, but can only be obtained after the player goes through two bad endings. You see the only option is to "Trust Sal", but if the game ending is played past the credits and the same scene with Sal is replayed, there be another option that says, "Don't Trust Sal", which gives the player another bad ending. Repeat by letting the game run the ending till after the credits, and replay the same scene with Sal again. There should be a third option when Sal gives his creepy offer. It'll give Wadanohara to respond with, "....". And it's from that option that the true ending is obtained. I won't give spoilers about what happens during the true ending, but let's just say that ending in particular is more pleasing than the two bad endings.
WHY.
+MOTHREFUKCING WEISS GUERTENA BITCHES WHAT UP
Because mogeko loves to make us cry with bad options first XD
And make us cry harder with the proper endings!
The combat being ridiculously easy could have been fixed, but the battle with Sal, where the fighting doesn't stop him from violating Wadanohara, actually provides a nice counterpoint to the rest of the game.
It's also VERY realistic for a rape scene-the victims, in real life, often try to fight off their attackers in vain.
*Sees thumbnail*
...*deep breath* Here we go once again...
*Starts video*
I REALLY REALLY MISS THE GRAY GARDEN.
I didn't really like the normal ending... ;-;
Then you won't like to see the second normal ending: we'll have to go through it before seeing the true ending (It should be the good one...). Both Normal endings (1 and 2) are pretty bad...
Chivi-chivik M@ngaka! Yeah I heard they are both pretty bad... ;-;
Chivi-chivik M@ngaka! I'm just wondering why Mogeko thought it was a good idea to put you through Normal End 1 before showing you the other 2 endings. x_x
Cherry Saku Mogeko is King mogeko and enjoys suffering.
ManlyBadassHero
Yeah I'm sure that's it. o~o;
(Stuff made by Mogeko is suffering...)
More games should do this, its not comfortable, but the bad guys dont always just get defeated in the end by the good guys, just because they have protagonist armor.
Damn Sal. First you stab Samekichi, THEN you still his girl?
*SAVAGE*
XD
I wouldn’t exactly call... *_this_* stealing someone’s girl.
@@wildfire9280 I commented this 5 years ago my dude
@@fattybunni and?? Delete your comment then.
Options: "Trust Sal" OH DEAR
_Well, just another "Normal" ending under the sea..._
The characters continue to be so well drawn including their personalities... Like the horn as a beanie on Sheep (6:35) - so cute! Felt strangely sad for Tsuribari (11:28) when he said “we the abandoned ones are no match…”
The bad end with Fukami was a shock! Did not expect betrayal… it seemed as though the Sea of Death caused him to be possessed by evil, taken over by insanity. I wondered, because briefly he was real self again & horrified at his actions - would that be something that happens to him? Becoming normal & remembering before reverting again to evil? That is very sad fate indeed…
It was right & fitting that Wadanohara had to face Sal in the Old Sea by herself without her familiars… forcing home the point that by her strength alone she would win or lose on the unwavering path she chose - leading right into Sal’s psychotically loving fins.
Clever to see how much he enjoyed being attacked & fooling Wadanohara into thinking she actually was saving anything. The saddest part to me was not her fate - she chose it & the pain it entailed. The saddest part was Samekichi witnessing it - seeing her become the crazed bride of Death.
It is a strange complement to say that you did well portraying a character so hateful & evil, but you did well, MBH...
I waited to see what you would say. Nicely put. You could argue this wasn't a bad ending at all. The heroine was alive. Those who weren't dead turned evil and the hero was still alive. It was a good ending but with the wrong people together. So you weren't bothered by her being attacked just by Samekichi's reaction. I think I might have felt worse for her than him. I probably would have preferred no voicing of the parts here, but I'm an old-fashioned guy.
GreengoLight2 Of course it was a bad end!! She was tricked out of her mind & her innocence - I believe that more than qualifies it as a bad end.... Oh sure, it's all _happily ever after_ with a brutalized insane heroine living with the guy who made her that way & the real hero helplessly witnessing it. Hardly a "good ending" no matter how you want to define it.
I felt the greater cruelty was in Samekichi's living with the knowledge ~ felt that poor Wadanohara was spared mental pain after becoming the Red Witch.
Took you a while to watch. I was surprised considering how fast you usually watch things. Not that I notice much. Heh. Sal is a good villain actually. He is in love though not just driven by power. He probably would be better at being evil if he wasn't so much in love with Wadanohara. But it's impressive to get your woman, make her believe she's happy, and mess up your rival's head completely. Not bad for a shark. You did say I'm a shark. -~~~//\~~~-
I played this game before I knew Manlybadass, and at first I thought Sal was brainwashing Wadanohara, but then a year later, I re watched it and realized Sal was actually raping her..
no
Ooh, the Betrayal Ending was a surprise. Poor Fukami, left to deal with the guilt alone in a ruined world with only Sal and his allies as company. He's obviously possessed when he does that, but I imagine he's just giving into despair afterwards.
Then we got the Normal Ending... I have to admit, despite the horrible way it came about and the general sadness of it, I do dig Evil Wadanohara's design.
Now realizing that a lot of girls my age wanna marry like Justin Beiber and all that and I'm just over here like "I wanna Marry a shark."
Sal is literally my baby oh my god
xD yay im not alone , the shark kids are so cute X3 ,and yeh like JB :l like seriously he has been in jail , and people still are fan girls for him
( PS i wanna Shrimp daddy too even thou he is married XD )
Really? I'm over here like "I wanna marry that octopus"
I've got a thing for insane characters so
Ballroom Kid If you're talking about Sal , he's a dolphin.
Me at the beginning: what a nice game. I love these types of games.
Me now: I'm highly regretting my decision. why did I watch this again?
My first reaction
>reads description
Wow, you're done Manly. though this vids kind of short for a final-
Dammit Manly
...is it just me or does Sheep look more like a snail??
+MANYBARKINGDOGS its a ram horn?
Sheep, Sheel, Shell
They're based off of an Ammonite: an extinct species of nautiloid
most comments in this comments section: *traumatized by/discussing the ethics of the rape scene*
You: "...that's not a sheep...?"
XD lol just loved the contrast
I like evil Wadda's outfit more than her normal tbh
XD yeah stairs are really the only real enemy in this game XD
kittycat anime i think to...
Fukami
is still my precious no matter what.
Dammit why’d they make fukami so fucking HOT
@@Rivwe HUH???
That moment you knew you ARE the food, but it's already too late.
Old: fucc-
Oh....Fukami...was he possessed by Sal or did he just lose control and get influenced by the Sea of Death/his jealousy/something? Because if he took this path willingly like Sal said he wouldn't be questioning himself saying "Did I do this..?", right..?
As for the how you're forced to get Normal End 1 first...just wow. I'm.... /sits down silently
I believe his jealousy exploded and that made him vulnerable to the sea's effects taking him over. He definitely was possessed when he killed his friends and Wadanohara. I believe Sal said Fukami chose this path willingly because that jealousy was Fukami's true emotion coming to the surface, even though he killed his friends while under the influence of the sea's corrupt power. And how Fukami basically stopped resisting and became evil... I interpret it was the sea corrupting him because he's so vulnerable and has lost his friends and Wadanohara.
Yes, Fukami does indeed like Wadanohara in a romantic light. This is elaborated a little more in the true ending, and also in the bonus room when you check Fukami's character icon, which details his perceived rivalry with Samekichi for Wadanohara's affections. In a video extra, Fukami also does something special for Wadanohara that comes into play in the true ending.
silentstarz16 I thought it was rather sad for the Betrayal ending. Fukami does indeed love Wadanohara in the romantic sense but even before and after her curse that messed up her memories somewhat, she still held Samekichi in a high light (even when at first he seemed like he was just trying to kill them) and kept her true feelings bottled up. Wadanohara always had a bad habbit of not properly expressing herself. She tends to keep her troubles and pains to herself and often lies (mostly when Samekichi is involved) to avoid others worrying about her but when it just does the opposite.
Fukami always tries to act like nothing really bothers him but you can see whenever Wadanohara is hiding something or just plains lies or refuse to talk to them about something, Fukami just has to hold more frustrations and worries each time. After a while, those "...." starts to look less emotionless and more like frustration. Like, it's the same bs she's trying to feed them or not feeling comfortable and trusting enough to express her troubles to them. (like lying to them to go see Samekichi secretly or about the headaches she downplayed) I can see why at that point he lost it. Even when their entire sea is at risk of being taken over and Samekichi himself tells them to go on without him, she put him first among all others (if you chose to go after him when he gets dragged away that is).
It was always Samekichi to Wadanohara and he got so sick of it he must have wanted to hurt her (or at least smack her for always being so unreasonable) it was just thanks to the sea of death's influence that his hidden dark desires came flowing out. Maybe he just wanted to give her a little squeeze, but it kept growing, growing to where he wanted to squeeze harder, and harder. Added to the fact that he was the only thing on her mind as he was squeezing her to death, he kept going, feeding both his dark desires of hurting her and his romantic ones of being the main one in Wadanohara's mind besides Samekichi.
Even though he reasonably never wanted to hurt any one of them, he couldn't deny the fact that deep down, he held such dark thoughts towards her. Actually, I was wondering since Fukami and Sal couldn't earn Wadanohara's love and them talking to each other in the bad ending, that Sal was the one who hurt her mentally (the curse) and Fukami would be the one to hurt her physically (betrayal ending)
I definitely think it's corruption; if you look behind Fukami, you can briefly see Sal in his shark form right before he starts killing; I think, like silentstarz said, Sal took advantage of his jealously to corrupt him and 'wake him up' like what he did to Wadanohara (and what Mikotsu tried to do to her before Meikai intervened).
I'm starting to wonder why the Sea King didn't just split the Blue Sea into two so both princesses could each rule over each part as they like. I mean... It was mentioned way back in one of the early videos that the problem of the Sea King choosing an heir to inherit the throne came up because of the fact he has two daughters. That's be more than enough reason to change the rules and just let both of them rule each half of the Blue Sea and have equal power.
I don't really understand what Princess Uomi was alluding to when she said Princess Mikotsu would never know the reason their father didn't choose her as heir and therefore would never understand??? Was Uomi basically saying if there was a reason she was chosen over Mikotsu, the reason itself is completely irrelevant since they are now enemies?
Agreed, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Like Jiiya said, the Sea King seems cruel.
@@slp0001 tbf the Sea King didn't seem to care that much about anything besides Meikai
Partitioning a territory among two potential heirs has always worked in history
*Sees the bad ending and the first in-game ending*
What a cute game for cute children!
I just realized..
Wadanohara and Yonika both say in the end that they are..
'..happy..'
I pronounced Yonika out loud and it sounded like I said the N-word I’m so done
@@Rivwe damn. Same
@@Rivwe no it doesn't, you probably pronounced it wrong.
I think the rape scenes from Mogeko’s castle is far worse than this. But i do agree that it is painful to Go all through this first before getting the good ending
Yep that was a gang bang of little onion head creatures.
D-did Sal just....
Did he really just raped Wadanohora this time?
Oh god, my reading eye hurt, I couldn't tell if it was that one ending where if impaled her with the sword, torture her or raped her.
If you guys ever watched/read Berserk, this ending will give you those vibes. Sal is Griffith, Wadanohara is Casca, and Samekichi is Guts. This is some fucked up shit tho since Wadanohara is basically a kid so to speak. Mogeko why?
Why does Deep-Sea Prisoner make the true endings so depressing? :-(
the true end was great!you probably think this is the true end,but there still Two endings and the last one is the true end (^w^)
I've seen the true ending. Thanks.
+MOTHREFUKCING WEISS GUERTENA BITCHES WHAT UP no problem! ('7')
Goddamn those albino sharks
): Your way too good at Sal's laugh i have too pull down my headphones down wen you do it
oh lawd...
the ending...
i'm gonna miss Mogeko games with MBH voicing them...
can't wait to see the other endings :D
ǝƃoɯ
If someone is wondering, there's two other endings, the normal 2 and the true ending, so dont be sad and complete the other ones if you want a happy ending lol
You have to complete the first two endings to get the true one, good luck :D
That's the worst ending IMO.
Okay bad end 2 was pretty bad, too.
@@BrysonSpahn I prefer the 2nd ending over the first
As Darwin would say...
"Another happy ending!"
THAT FUCKING WHITE SPLASH AT 39:01 OH MY FUCKING GOD
+Joan Cheng Weren't those his....weird....tenticle thingies? I mean if you look at his shark form, you can see weird tenticle/eel things coming from his back/tail area.
...I...well at least I hope that's what they are. Either way, it's gross ._.
It could be interpreted that way, but it's pretty obviously supposed to represent semen.
Joan Cheng Or that he....used them >_>;;;
Actually it's supposed to be his tentacles, but either way, it's horrifying.
Oh, great.
I thought that the scene in the flashback would go "THAT" way. I was glad it didn't.
And then it happened here.. AS A NORMAL ENDING 1 ?! WTF, dude.
That scene is Berserk all over again.
DANG IT, FUKAMI DX
Quiet characters like Fukami ALWAYS end up playing a big role.
Take Sakutaro Morishige for example.
fukami is bb tho
that part where sal is..yeah…still disturbs me to this day
Lesson learned:
*Don’t trust sharks*
he is a dolphin
@@bluevaito4643 excuse me? He is most certainly not
@@PinkieHeartLemonade Sal is a pile of trash going into a fiery pit. We should all know this.
@@hashtagcritical8688 yeah
@@hashtagcritical8688 that's too nice for someone that disgusting and perverted.
This is so messed up but I still enjoyed it. I love how this thing made a huge turn from how it was originally. Though I hope to see a different ending soon.
Man when you realize that wadda was already corrupted by mikotsu and was only broken further (also ntr'd) by sal really makes it more terrifying and sad
Mikotsu nearly corrupted wadda
But her father intervened
Sal notes it's odd She's normal
i never knew wadanohara got rap when she trusted sal. i just realized it. that scene feels more scary now
Those last words...
I was thinking that you'll send the three endings together. êe
Oh well... just saying (like for many people), that ending revolted me. But I guess this is a truly "bad ending" after all.
Really, Mogeko... you did an excellent job. ='=
Man, now that I've watched this I'll be really interested if Mogeko would make a game about all the witches
and thus manly gets the good ending. Sal gets the girl of his dreams and they live happily ever after in the red sea.
the way he voiced mikostu saying father and stuff reminds me of the girl and dog from Full Metal alchemist-
20:37
I don't care how sick and demented you are; if you heard something like that, you definitely would never recover from that Emotional Damage.
...........................................WHAT THE SERIOUS FUCK KINDA ENDING WAS THAT.....I EXECPTED A HAPPY ENDING NOT......THIS.....*cries in corner*
Not the true ending, you should try The Witch's house. That game's true ending is messed up.
simcoll1 Already seen the ending to that
the true ending is the best at this game (wanadohara and the great blue sea) so emotional satesfied and make u believe that its bad but theres a special moment that made u feel better u should see this
Michi Lynn The true ending of this game is,
But yeah I cried a little at Witch's house ending. I hated that game for the ending.
-Spoilers-
-Godess of the blue sea-
simcoll1 the witch's house ending is screwed
This got disturbing fast
you could say the castle is a "bloody" mess :D
This one seemed like the ultimate bad ending...
When Sal got on her I thought he was going to eat her head but after looking at what wadanohara was saying when the screen went red I was like, "Yup. rape. someone needs Jesus whoever made this game ;-;"
*I'm gonna need so much therapy after this*
Incase that normal ending wasn't bad enough, I leave you this paragraph from the Watgbs endings page from the Ogekom wiki.
"During a livestream, it was revealed almost all of the Blue Sea inhabitants were indeed killed. Their slaughtered bodies were piled in the Old Sea and left there untouched. The way they died was unspeakably terrible. Some of them may not even be in their original form due to the bitterness and hatred of the Red Sea. Wadanohara just watched from the sidelines. The last survivor besides Samekichi was Fukami, who was decapitated by her. In particular, the way Memoca, Dolpi, and Fukami died bear a striking resemblance to the nightmares Wadanohara had in-game."
:/
That ending with Fukami is the type of ending I don't like. Because there is an element to it that sticks around even if the ending isn't canon. It seems to imply that Fukami is really like that deep down and wasn't being controlled, so it's always there. It's hard to trust him now. That's something that will ruin him in the rest of the game.
The manga implies sal was just trying to corrupt fukami
Man, I knew you're laughs would be worth viewing this game again although I just played it! XD B..But that scene is just as hard to stomach even though I knew it was coming.. eeughhhhh.. ;o;
A friend of mine in their in game room had all these pictures all over the room and a self made skin of of Sal and I only watched this now so all I thought before watching this was "Well, I guess he's pretty cute." And now well... uh
Now I must go and question my taste in friends.
I don't even know what to say anymore I'm just going to keep watching. but I was a bit surprised about the whole fukami thing though
good game, damn. freaky and hits the feels. oof. perfect
There was no other option but to trust Sal! Like, what?! O.o
WHAT?!?!?! FLUFFING FLUFF!!! I CANNOT EXPRESS HOW FLUFFING- GRUUUUAAAAAAAOOOOOGH!!!!
OKAY DID ANYONE ELSE NOTICE SAL STANDING BEHIND FUKAMI AT 15:30 ???? CAUSE SAME AND IM SHRIEKING HOLY BALLS--
Went and saw the bonus comic pages...
I had to make a double round trip....
Bunny roid-rage...
Okay, wow, that Fukami one I knew was coming from spoiling it for myself by looking it up, but wow; it still kinda blew my mind. O.o
Ah yes, nothing more relaxing than a MBH video to watch at night, while it's weekend. Spoilers on the next game you're planning on LPing?
Huh, did Samekichi just get NTR'd? Was that the NTR ending?
There's even comics going into detail the level of NTR.
Whats NTR?
Not To Research stuff.
WADDA NEEDS THERAPY, NOW!!
they all do
All okegom characters need therapy
Gotta go clear my head with Lavender Town.
wao
extreme way to relief stress dude (^-^')
"Fauk u" video ends.. Samekichi really needs to take out the trash *cough sal cough*
Dear lord this game fucked up
Tsuribari and Stella definently remind me of Allen and Stella from Alice Mare.. But more murderous and depressed..
It’s funny. Now that I remembered this whole thing is a flashback told by present wadanohara when she tells us the 2 bad and 2 normal endings I just imagine the words “ wait that can’t be right”😂
Tsuribari:
*dies but still holding the book*
Oh man, what an ending!
This is fucking Mogeko, of course there's rape..........
Sal loves Wadanohara too, in his own deranged and fucked up way. Because he might have been interrupted the first time in the case, I think in this ending he finishes the job and takes full advantage of her, while prying upon her weak and broken mental state to corrupt her, the way Fukami is corrupted in the other bad end.
There's also the bonus character bio where Dead Sea Wada's hobby is XXX (and her interest in sex in the bonus comics :'( ), and the radio show where the host says something along the lines of "Wanted your first time to be Samekichi, huh?" .........I /want/ to think that I'm reading too heavily into it, but I can't imagine that it's not meant to make us think the worst..... :'S
From what I can see... the battles in this game need better balancing, and the chances for grinding reduced.
I hope i'm not the only one, but as soon as it got up to 37:42 i could feel myself cry a little... ;_; i was expecting it but i guess i just wasn't ready for it.
I only have one question:
WHY DOES THIS GAME HAVE A COMIC FOLLOWING THE EVENTS OF NORMAL END1?!?!
Beats me
I still love this horror gore game to this game 🖤
Wonder what Sal was doing to Wadanohara? AND THE COMMENTS ARE NOT KEWL FOR SAYING THAT HE RAOED HER-
No....fukami xc don't let that traitorous barnacle get you... no xc...
I hope you didn't get the bad end.... (is watching before seeing the end)
You have to get both bad endings before the true ending.
This game gets dark...quick
I just wanted a cute and nice new old fandom to chill in and now its too late to leave.... Oh god...
10:24 that badass battle cut tho!
Only watching:scary
Watching with your voice:HORROR
If watch horror scene with your voice:I will piss on my pants, maybe
man... it's been years but i'm still fucked over this ending... like, why? WHY? ;___;