No, its not for that, its for the stupidity or maybe strategy of their governments. They can develop a Panama Canal at sea level, not necessarily where the actual waterway is, in fact, one of the campaign projects of one of the candidates for president last elections proposed the idea of a channel at sea level; and there are many alternative locations for this sea level channel. Maybe they have the "do something and we will always do something better" strategy.
@@user-je5os3bg4n The Suez Canal does not need locks because the water level of the Mediterranean and Red seas are the same. "Sea Level" is NOT the same worldwide! "Land Elevation" is also not equitable.
I’m an American living in Panama. I enjoy your informative videos. But I have to correct you on one of your comments about the “highway robbery” Panama was charging ships. Your statement is incorrect. Some of the companies that owned the ships wanted to “cut the line” of the ships waiting and offered much more money to do so. The Panama Canal authority didn’t ask for more money.
There is already a railroad supplement to the Panama Canal. It's called the Panama Canal Railway. It runs on the north shore of the canal - 76.6kn (47.6 miles). It was opened in 1855, preceding the canal itself by 50 years and was vital in the canal construction. Its use declined after WWII but was rebuilt to modern standards in 1998 and operated by Kansas City Southern using standard North American double stack container carriers. It has functioned well, particularly during the drought, by taking some of the containers from fully laden, large container ships so as to reduce their draft, moving them across the isthmus then reloading for the 2nd leg of the voyage. This supporting role is exactly as you describe.
@@crystalweible152 The USA is moving its manufacturing to Mexico and away from China due to the shipping issue, and other reasons. Yes, raw materials still need to be shipped to wherever the manufacturing is occurring. But that is way easier and cheaper than shipping finished products.
@@chrisbiro1 -- I don't like your "way easier and cheaper" wording. How do you feel about saying that the raw materials need to be shipped in just one time instead of being shipped continuously for many years ?
@@jamesgoode9246 Well the "packaging" for most raw materials are significantly less expensive and way less complicated and usually do not need to be handled delicately. Better?
Our cities were designed to work with vehicles. Most suburban Americans would have to walk an hour round trip just to get bread and milk. Rural? Even longer. Suburbia is meandering and sprawling and tightly regulated what can be built to keep the poor segregated. Rails would cost a lot, have crazy routes, just to be feasible.
@@michaelf7093 modern High speed, dual, or triple track, not the low speed meandering mess that the U.S. has now. If the Russian/Chinese can ship freight from Beijing to Hamburg in 15 days on relatively slow trains over nearly 10,000km, then I’m sure the U.S. can do better over 3,000 km.
@@pickles3128 Build new cities, walkable cities like in Europe. Stop sending your tax dollars abroad, or wasted on wars. Americans get a bad deal for the tax they pay.
If San Fransisco to los Angeles is a billion dollar project how much do you think a high speed rail would cost from the Pacific to Atlantic it would be a trillions 😢 and we had a 2 week long longshoremen strike ... Best thing to boost are economy is to stop being noise in other countries n start focusing on ours
Both the train Maya and the Transisthmic railway are operational. Finishing touches are being implemented, but once completed there will be an alternative route to ship goods from the Pacific to the Atlantic plus the 10 industrial parks will add value and some finished products will be ready for export! Also the railway throughout Mexico is being upgraded and the passenger trains are starting to be implemented with a transnational railway to connect Mexico, U.S., and Canada is being negotiated. Clearly the future will continue to bring the North American countries closer and more interconnected economically, culturally and now there are 1.8 million Americans living in Mexico plus many Canadians and 33 million Mexicans in U.S. so that we are getting more integrated as a population! What’s good for one is good for all!
The Nica canal is pure fantasy. It would go thru much ruggeder terrain and the Indians who live there were a major part of the Contra rebels and they even had started shooting at Chinese surveyors who were talking about building one years ago. It would also be an environmental catastrophy which would add to the unrest. A rail system thru Mexico is more logical and Panama aleady has one that needs to be upgraded and while antiquated, it was specifically designed for shipping containers. FYI and no disrespect, its Lake GUH TOON, not GAH TUN. Not ot mention the Chinese can build anything that doesnt fall apart. Furthermore, the canal is not the whole battle. You need a developed nation with infrastructure and economy to support that level of trade and Nicaragua is nowhere close. They still requre business to have hand written ledgers and the Sandanistas shake businesses down like the mafia. UN program to build a school? You can only buy materials at 600% of the going rate from a party member etc. Law firms, suppliers, services. Not even a remote dream anytime soon.
The Rocky Mountains limit the routes that are practical. We have some rail and highways through them, but we would need many more. We could do it, but it would be difficult and very expensive.
@@LyleAshbaugh tunnel? It’s just a matter of political will, and money. The Alps have so many rail and road tunnels. I’m saying tunnel all the way through, that would be impractical, but for the more difficult parts.
What needs to happen is they need to start pumping the water in the lock system instead of just letting it flow into the ocean! It doesn't take much intelligence to understand this, but there you go!!!
they will likely get "things" transported without checks for providing protection, do you think anyone would be willing to rob them if the cartels are semi governing them.
I get a kick out of the environmentalists thinking the native landscape would be completely destroyed! Like the process would completely devastate the land leaving it completely barren! They claimed the same thing with the Alaskan oil pipeline, but it been anything but!!!
They should bore a big tunnel at sea level under the continent, so the ships could just sail on through without locks or trains. Charge a toll at either end. The whole thing could be lit, and there could even be shops down there and a roadway for emergency and maintenance workers.
The great drawback regarding the Mexican Corridor is that Mexico is currently and tightly controlled by a vast criminal syndicate. Those same trains risk attacks by cartels and gangs alike. And the poor people of Mexico will remain poor as long as the criminals remain in charge.
With the lake, the area could become a huge freshwater port for transfer of cargo from ship to train for delivery. It would give the US west coast much needed congestion relief. The rail lines from this point can go east and west of the continental divide to service all of the US and Canada.
I seem to remember reading that the plans for the enlargement of the canal a few years ago included construction of a new reservoir. The reservoir was not built, reservoirs are really helpful for water shortages. Does anyone remember that
The proposed Mexican trade corridor will never replace the Panama Canal but could help keep log jams from happening in the future. As stated below, the reason for the issues was mostly a super long drought that had the water reserves Panama needed to operate the channel at historic lows, so they had to limit the number of ships coming through and, therefore, raise prices.
7:30 For years, I also propose similar for isthmus of Kra. While they have technical capability to do that, lots of non-technical issues preventing it from happening.
8:21 the problem with trains: they cant carry the same amount of cargo a ship can, so there have to be more trips up and down, or alot of sperate train tracks with trains a container ship can carry about 22,000 containers, a train isnt going to be able to carry that much! otherwise you would have a train that is 264 meters (866 feet) long, and thats only the cargo, not the engines needed to pull that much. loading and unloading ships will cost alot of money. money that companies would rather not spend, it will be less expensive to use the panama canal. even with the long wait time, the best thing to solve this problem...is to make more sleuces and use the saltwater instead of freshwater. Netherland has been doing that for a very long time. i dont see how this train is going to be sustainable 17:15 take a look at netherland...the dutch have more sleuces, waterways, canals, rivers for transport. they even claimed land from the sea! if someone can do it, its the dutch!
At one time there was a plan to build a MARINE RAILWAY here in Mexico, to load entire ships onto rail cars and carry them across land. ... I have seen the drawings and magazine articles from the time.
LA Long Beach, Oakland, and Seattle all have rail links and All see large amounts of Chinese container traffic I don’t know why this wasn’t even mentioned in the video
@chasmader: Wondered that, too. Potus Clinton closed down the Navy base on Terminal Island and expanded the LB port further (into the ocean) for that GATT fantasy marketing of US goods being sold to China when the reality was purposely stripping out U.S. manufacturing which destroyed the U.S. working class for 'imported goods from China'.
Yes but those are containers unloaded in the US, with their final destination being the US. I don't think it would make much sense to unload thousands of containers, transport them via 3000 miles of rail, and then load them back up on the east coast, if their ultimate destination was someplace in Europe. I mean I could be wrong, it just seems like a lot of extra steps to me though.
@@stanmnews January 6, 2020. They stormed the Capitol. They're forcing Christianity upon all Americans, denying people equal rights and generally trying to overthrow the US Government.
This situation could work out well for the cartels. It's like installing a sushi conveyor belt in their own backyard, where they likely have more control than the government. They could hide things or tamper with shipments more easily. Additionally, who’s contracting the construction, and what about the relocation of current occupants? I’m sure they’ll be fairly "compensated." ChaClick.
A canal between the Gulf of Mexico and the Pacific Ocean is just impossible ,there’s a mountain range to high and a very closed jungle ,regular roads have to be maintain regularly because of the rainy area,that is the most forested jungle place in the entire country and it rains almost every day ,not an easy place tu build a railroad or any road !
I keep thinking about all of the pollution from the waiting ships, diesel fuel, gas, oil, human waste, lead paint chips, etc. So much pollution to bodies of water.
@jaxflfreebird: There were some reports last year of huge cargo ships were built running on 'natural liquid gas', instead of diesel. (What would be safer in port, ships full of diesel or natural gas? If manufacturing became regional again, it would help eliminate this need of over-shipping, but they are after that global slave labor wage, aka pacific rim. The article stated NLG is cleaner (as long as it remains controlled in its container?).
Transferring shipping cargoes from one side to the other via railway is nothing new. Panama's been doing that for years using existing railway systems that were built during the Californian Gold Rush. Besides, there's another reason why Panama was chosen over Nicaragua for the canal project, not just for it's narrow width. There's an interesting short story how one investor was able to sway the US Congress' decision. Having alternate routes to unclog the heavy traffic would be ideal. But you got a lot to worry more if you build a railway through Mexico and I'm not talking about cartels either.
Why not use water from the Pacific ocean to fill the channels of the canal? It will slow down the use of traffic, but water naturally flows down hill and it will stop freshwater disputes in drier seasons.
ok I have a question, for ships coming from China, why wouldn't they just go to the west coast of America? It's not like they have no docks there that can accommodate them?
Mexico is working to one day 'asap' become economically independent from the U.S. : BRICS here we come. G7? what G7! oh the AG7 Arrogant Global 7 you mean? World's changing, ain't it.
Apart from transfer time the rail system could be better than a canal, plus as the goods already being on rail Mexico could do local transfers via rail.
The Mexican option is interesting but problematic. The levels of corruption and criminality makes Mexico not viable. One problem, one "accident ", will block operations.
The Panama Canal is not at sea level. The United States did not have the technology to drill the Panama mountain range, so they created the lock system to raise ships to the level of Gatun Lake in the center of the country and then lower it on the other side in the Caribbean.
1) Costs. It takes a lot of energy to pump the volumes of water to higher levels. 2) ground salinity. Canals aren't impervious, unless you fully construct them with water immpervious materials (certain concretes come to mind, just clay doesn't cut it). Some of the salt water will seep into the ground, eventually killing off any possibility of agriculture in the region. And when it's there, it won't go away unless a lot of fresh water is used to flush it out... 3)corrosion of equipment. You'll need to saline proof all locks etc. Ships are (somewhat) made to sail in a saline environment, fresh water locks aren't. This will result in a steep increase of maintenance costs or the requirement of building a complete new set of locks (concrete poured with fresh water conditions in mind erodes a lot faster in salt water conditions. For example, if the concrete isn't completely impervious, chlorine ions will migrate to the concrete weaponing, corroding it).
There are several problems with using sea water. First, sea water only exists at sea level. Billions of acre-feet of salt water would have to be pumped over land into the inland lakes at enormous cost in energy and money. Filling freshwater lakes with salt water would utterly destroy the existing Panamanian ecosystem, triggering an extinction level environmental disaster.
In fact, you should do your research in the case of the Mayan Train as well, it really isn't well planned and they ignored many environmental impact issues, in fact it has already contaminated several underground aquifer systems (in Yucatan they are called cenotes) damaging local fauna and endemic species, apart from the budget is way above what it was supposed to spend, it's normal for projects to cost more than expected, but this project exceeds everything that will be paid in decades.
Isnt deleting cargo off one ship, putting it on rails and then loading it back up to another ship horribly inefficient too? It takes like 3 days straight to delete one of those mega cargoships, so basicly 6 days just for switching loads. Sure still better than 3 weeks wait on the panama canal but....
You should do a video on the destruction of the ecosystem in Las Vegas. It use to have streams and geysers but now it's just a city no streams geysers just a couple flood changes thats it. Use to have ponds and native palm trees around these ponds now nothing.
What about the ecological impact it would have to make a direct connection between pacific and atlantic ocean??- the panama canal doesnt have that issue due to how its designed with gates n shit. A direct connection wouldnt have same shielding effect
In U.S drugs enter in 1874, morphine and opium have a much longer history in the world. Cocaine consumption had grown since 1899 that come from south that dont never need go to any 1914 Canal of Panama
like the drug cartels would let this happen without taking a huge cut of the profits. this is a bad idea. like the mexican government will help the poor people who live there. have they ever done that before?
Peace. Mexico's canal should prioritize vessels carrying perishable goods. These distributors could better count on shorter waiting times to go through rather than risk weeks in, 'wait' mode at Panama Canal. Peace.
@@brucealanwilson4121 Peace. Thank you for replying, for query. Mexico's administrative and legal staffs have started construction, in Vera Cruz and far souhern areas of Mexico, to build another trans-continentalcanal to facilitate commerce between Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. Panama Canal's shipping traffic has increased to past reasonable capacity. Servicing traversing shipping can extend to waiting times of three weeks, more or less. Millions of pesos have already been invested and are being expended on second canal. It will take more than a handful of years for facilities to be ready to provide services. Peace.
@@brucealanwilson4121 Peace. Thank you again. It is a railroad; a planned canal; a planned industrial park with facilities. Please refer to podcast's openung remarks. Am taking this final train to... Peace.
Would it not be possible to add a port in Oregon California or Washington states coastline ? Something like they do for the mini passenger luxury ships.
There is a minimum of two parts per each state that you just mentioned this person just fell to mention the truth most of the shipments from China come in through the West Coast
Better yet how about sticking all that money back here in the USA! WE build our own deep water port any where from Washington to California, an put Americans or migrants to work. Since the ships are coming here anyway. It could be done! Elon could find a way!!!! How about ask for his help, after all the man is a genius. Now think of the tax on imports.
What about the China and Russia Northern Shipping lanes and plan for warming Arctic waters, that's the purpose of melting the Arctic ice glaciers (aka purposeful global warming cooperative). US and Canadian forces in July intercepted Russian and Chinese bombers flying together near Alaska for the first time, while their two navies operated together in international waters off the Alaskan coast in 2022 and 2023, according to the US military (report by CNN intl). Northcom & Norway have expressed concerns. In the meanwhile, U.S. public news talks about Trump gossip & promotes Harris campaign of U.S. citizen abortion.
Panama Canal is not being "killed" by México, but by drought that slows traffic through.
No, its not for that, its for the stupidity or maybe strategy of their governments. They can develop a Panama Canal at sea level, not necessarily where the actual waterway is, in fact, one of the campaign projects of one of the candidates for president last elections proposed the idea of a channel at sea level; and there are many alternative locations for this sea level channel. Maybe they have the "do something and we will always do something better" strategy.
The Panama Canal is outdated for Larger ships
Water from both oceans cannot mix, cause an ecological disaster @@user-je5os3bg4n
The rea danger for Panama Canal could be the Northern Passage.
@@user-je5os3bg4n The Suez Canal does not need locks because
the water level of the Mediterranean and Red seas are the same.
"Sea Level" is NOT the same worldwide!
"Land Elevation" is also not equitable.
I’m an American living in Panama. I enjoy your informative videos. But I have to correct you on one of your comments about the “highway robbery” Panama was charging ships. Your statement is incorrect. Some of the companies that owned the ships wanted to “cut the line” of the ships waiting and offered much more money to do so. The Panama Canal authority didn’t ask for more money.
Did they accept the bribes though?
Surprised there wasn't a fast pass service in place. Seems like it's the norm everywhere now.
@kosmosXcannon and when everyone has a fast pass. They sell em an express pass. Then rinse and repeat.
They panamanians are more than happy to accept those bribes. It is what it is.
Panama canal Just like real-estate. Always start with an asking price and then, Let the bidding begin!
There is already a railroad supplement to the Panama Canal. It's called the Panama Canal Railway. It runs on the north shore of the canal - 76.6kn (47.6 miles). It was opened in 1855, preceding the canal itself by 50 years and was vital in the canal construction. Its use declined after WWII but was rebuilt to modern standards in 1998 and operated by Kansas City Southern using standard North American double stack container carriers. It has functioned well, particularly during the drought, by taking some of the containers from fully laden, large container ships so as to reduce their draft, moving them across the isthmus then reloading for the 2nd leg of the voyage. This supporting role is exactly as you describe.
This mexican corridor is already functioning and transporting from east to west and vice versa as we speak.
The better solution is to manufacture within the end country and thus avoid the shipping issue altogether.
ok mercantilist
Where do you suppose the supplies for that comes from?
@@crystalweible152 The USA is moving its manufacturing to Mexico and away from China due to the shipping issue, and other reasons. Yes, raw materials still need to be shipped to wherever the manufacturing is occurring. But that is way easier and cheaper than shipping finished products.
@@chrisbiro1 -- I don't like your "way easier and cheaper" wording.
How do you feel about saying that the raw materials need to be shipped in
just one time instead of being shipped continuously for many years ?
@@jamesgoode9246 Well the "packaging" for most raw materials are significantly less expensive and way less complicated and usually do not need to be handled delicately. Better?
Watop always makes my day better
If only the USA had modern high speed rail link from coast to coast? But I guess your tax dollars go “elsewhere”
That'd be great for passenger service. But this is about freight rail. The US leads the world in freight rail usage.
Our cities were designed to work with vehicles. Most suburban Americans would have to walk an hour round trip just to get bread and milk. Rural? Even longer. Suburbia is meandering and sprawling and tightly regulated what can be built to keep the poor segregated. Rails would cost a lot, have crazy routes, just to be feasible.
@@michaelf7093 modern High speed, dual, or triple track, not the low speed meandering mess that the U.S. has now. If the Russian/Chinese can ship freight from Beijing to Hamburg in 15 days on relatively slow trains over nearly 10,000km, then I’m sure the U.S. can do better over 3,000 km.
@@pickles3128 Build new cities, walkable cities like in Europe. Stop sending your tax dollars abroad, or wasted on wars. Americans get a bad deal for the tax they pay.
If San Fransisco to los Angeles is a billion dollar project how much do you think a high speed rail would cost from the Pacific to Atlantic it would be a trillions 😢 and we had a 2 week long longshoremen strike ... Best thing to boost are economy is to stop being noise in other countries n start focusing on ours
Both the train Maya and the Transisthmic railway are operational. Finishing touches are being implemented, but once completed there will be an alternative route to ship goods from the Pacific to the Atlantic plus the 10 industrial parks will add value and some finished products will be ready for export! Also the railway throughout Mexico is being upgraded and the passenger trains are starting to be implemented with a transnational railway to connect Mexico, U.S., and Canada is being negotiated. Clearly the future will continue to bring the North American countries closer and more interconnected economically, culturally and now there are 1.8 million Americans living in Mexico plus many Canadians and 33 million Mexicans in U.S. so that we are getting more integrated as a population! What’s good for one is good for all!
The Nica canal is pure fantasy. It would go thru much ruggeder terrain and the Indians who live there were a major part of the Contra rebels and they even had started shooting at Chinese surveyors who were talking about building one years ago. It would also be an environmental catastrophy which would add to the unrest. A rail system thru Mexico is more logical and Panama aleady has one that needs to be upgraded and while antiquated, it was specifically designed for shipping containers. FYI and no disrespect, its Lake GUH TOON, not GAH TUN. Not ot mention the Chinese can build anything that doesnt fall apart. Furthermore, the canal is not the whole battle. You need a developed nation with infrastructure and economy to support that level of trade and Nicaragua is nowhere close. They still requre business to have hand written ledgers and the Sandanistas shake businesses down like the mafia. UN program to build a school? You can only buy materials at 600% of the going rate from a party member etc. Law firms, suppliers, services. Not even a remote dream anytime soon.
Ever heard of "Tofu Dreg"? 🤔
As long as Mexico is a cartel state no company that wants to stay in business would ship anything through it.
Stay anonymous with the voice like that? Fat chance Ray Romano.
He sounds more like a skinny Josh Gates to me. 🤔
@@danieldeanmasterfinisher4715It could be! Sounds like Josh…has the same eye colour and eyebrow shape of Josh
It's an artificial voice. Duh.
Build further rail lines, to connect to the US network from the corridor. = No need to reload many ships.
Serious question why wouldn't they want to port on the west coast instead????
Because the left coast is loaded with wacky rules and regulations.
If there was a modern high speed rail link, then it would make sense. But I guess it’s cheaper by sea, than to invest in infrastructure.
The Rocky Mountains limit the routes that are practical. We have some rail and highways through them, but we would need many more.
We could do it, but it would be difficult and very expensive.
@@akula9713
High speed is good for people, freight can & will be slower.
@@LyleAshbaugh tunnel? It’s just a matter of political will, and money. The Alps have so many rail and road tunnels. I’m saying tunnel all the way through, that would be impractical, but for the more difficult parts.
What needs to happen is they need to start pumping the water in the lock system instead of just letting it flow into the ocean! It doesn't take much intelligence to understand this, but there you go!!!
Talk is cheap my friend.😊
@garybulwinkle82 ugh. The usa designed and built it that way. There ya go.
And what is the cut for the drug cartel ?
Sadly, that will be a factor 😢
They get precursors
Thats what i was thinking
they will likely get "things" transported without checks for providing protection, do you think anyone would be willing to rob them if the cartels are semi governing them.
"From" the drug cartel actually.
Cartels bribe authorities to look the other way.
I get a kick out of the environmentalists thinking the native landscape would be completely destroyed! Like the process would completely devastate the land leaving it completely barren! They claimed the same thing with the Alaskan oil pipeline, but it been anything but!!!
Watching from Panama while having a cup of coffee :)
The only problem I see on this is the Cartels that might be living there that don't want train stopping their drug trade
Why do you cover your face? I don’t trust anyone that doesn’t show their faces
Couldn't shipments for the USA just go to Texas or California?
They should bore a big tunnel at sea level under the continent, so the ships could just sail on through without locks or trains. Charge a toll at either end. The whole thing could be lit, and there could even be shops down there and a roadway for emergency and maintenance workers.
The great drawback regarding the Mexican Corridor is that Mexico is currently and tightly controlled by a vast criminal syndicate. Those same trains risk attacks by cartels and gangs alike. And the poor people of Mexico will remain poor as long as the criminals remain in charge.
Another great episode for the archive. Thanks
raw materials will enter mexico
and finish product come out of mexico
thru california, texas, arizina and gulf
of mexico.
You forgot your coffee? Are you coming down with something? LOL. Great information, thank you!
With the lake, the area could become a huge freshwater port for transfer of cargo from ship to train for delivery. It would give the US west coast much needed congestion relief. The rail lines from this point can go east and west of the continental divide to service all of the US and Canada.
And half of the cargo are useless items that end up is waste dumps.
I seem to remember reading that the plans for the enlargement of the canal a few years ago included construction of a new reservoir. The reservoir was not built, reservoirs are really helpful for water shortages. Does anyone remember that
The proposed Mexican trade corridor will never replace the Panama Canal but could help keep log jams from happening in the future. As stated below, the reason for the issues was mostly a super long drought that had the water reserves Panama needed to operate the channel at historic lows, so they had to limit the number of ships coming through and, therefore, raise prices.
Go Mexico! I hope they pull this off.
A stronger richer Mexico means a stronger richer USA. The might actually be able to buy our stuff😅
It means stronger richer cartels
7:30 For years, I also propose similar for isthmus of Kra.
While they have technical capability to do that, lots of non-technical issues preventing it from happening.
@WATOP hey man, great channel. Could you make a video about NAWAPA?
8:21 the problem with trains: they cant carry the same amount of cargo a ship can, so there have to be more trips up and down, or alot of sperate train tracks with trains
a container ship can carry about 22,000 containers, a train isnt going to be able to carry that much!
otherwise you would have a train that is 264 meters (866 feet) long, and thats only the cargo, not the engines needed to pull that much.
loading and unloading ships will cost alot of money. money that companies would rather not spend, it will be less expensive to use the panama canal.
even with the long wait time, the best thing to solve this problem...is to make more sleuces and use the saltwater instead of freshwater. Netherland has been doing that for a very long time.
i dont see how this train is going to be sustainable
17:15 take a look at netherland...the dutch have more sleuces, waterways, canals, rivers for transport. they even claimed land from the sea! if someone can do it, its the dutch!
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Would it be smarter to create an opening to the Nicaraguan lake and then create a railway systems to the other side of the country?
Hi I’m Blue yarn Yoshi
Global warming gotta speed up the Alaska route already
At one time there was a plan to build a MARINE RAILWAY here in Mexico, to load entire ships onto rail cars and carry them across land. ... I have seen the drawings and magazine articles from the time.
Of course, there's always the port of Somalia. They take vessels of all sizes.
just keep the b-roll going, we dont need to see a guy covered up talking with his hands for any reason here....
LA Long Beach, Oakland, and Seattle all have rail links and All see large amounts of Chinese container traffic I don’t know why this wasn’t even mentioned in the video
@chasmader: Wondered that, too. Potus Clinton closed down the Navy base on Terminal Island and expanded the LB port further (into the ocean) for that GATT fantasy marketing of US goods being sold to China when the reality was purposely stripping out U.S. manufacturing which destroyed the U.S. working class for 'imported goods from China'.
Yes but those are containers unloaded in the US, with their final destination being the US. I don't think it would make much sense to unload thousands of containers, transport them via 3000 miles of rail, and then load them back up on the east coast, if their ultimate destination was someplace in Europe. I mean I could be wrong, it just seems like a lot of extra steps to me though.
If it means less illegal border crossings i am for it
This is really thinking out of the box.
in mexico, the cartels hold more power and force than the government itself
Same in the US
@@jesseso577 When was the last time anyone saw trucks full of armed hitmen riding in convoys down the street❓ NEVER.
It's NOT the same in the US 👎
@@stanmnews January 6, 2020. They stormed the Capitol. They're forcing Christianity upon all Americans, denying people equal rights and generally trying to overthrow the US Government.
This situation could work out well for the cartels. It's like installing a sushi conveyor belt in their own backyard, where they likely have more control than the government. They could hide things or tamper with shipments more easily.
Additionally, who’s contracting the construction, and what about the relocation of current occupants? I’m sure they’ll be fairly "compensated." ChaClick.
everywhere not just in Mexico you dummy
A canal between the Gulf of Mexico and the Pacific Ocean is just impossible ,there’s a mountain range to high and a very closed jungle ,regular roads have to be maintain regularly because of the rainy area,that is the most forested jungle place in the entire country and it rains almost every day ,not an easy place tu build a railroad or any road !
I keep thinking about all of the pollution from the waiting ships, diesel fuel, gas, oil, human waste, lead paint chips, etc. So much pollution to bodies of water.
@jaxflfreebird: There were some reports last year of huge cargo ships were built running on 'natural liquid gas', instead of diesel. (What would be safer in port, ships full of diesel or natural gas? If manufacturing became regional again, it would help eliminate this need of over-shipping, but they are after that global slave labor wage, aka pacific rim. The article stated NLG is cleaner (as long as it remains controlled in its container?).
Transferring shipping cargoes from one side to the other via railway is nothing new. Panama's been doing that for years using existing railway systems that were built during the Californian Gold Rush. Besides, there's another reason why Panama was chosen over Nicaragua for the canal project, not just for it's narrow width. There's an interesting short story how one investor was able to sway the US Congress' decision.
Having alternate routes to unclog the heavy traffic would be ideal. But you got a lot to worry more if you build a railway through Mexico and I'm not talking about cartels either.
Isnt Lake Nicaragua a freshwater lake? I couldnt imagine that going very well, long term.
Why doesn’t China just move their companies to Mexico, like The USA moves their companies to The Philippines ?
They are already moving to Mexico, in addition they are investing into infrastructure.
so move massive chinese work encampments to our southern border? that’s a great idea!
it's been done not only in mexico
but around the globe. see those
made in pakistan clothing they're
chinese companies like smithfield pork n beef.
I heard about this but I learned about the throughput numbers from you.
Why not use water from the Pacific ocean to fill the channels of the canal? It will slow down the use of traffic, but water naturally flows down hill and it will stop freshwater disputes in drier seasons.
"including crafts, poetry and DANCES" -- standard leftie argument against industrialization and real progress.
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ok I have a question, for ships coming from China, why wouldn't they just go to the west coast of America? It's not like they have no docks there that can accommodate them?
Mexico is working to one day 'asap' become economically independent from the U.S. : BRICS here we come.
G7? what G7! oh the AG7 Arrogant Global 7 you mean? World's changing, ain't it.
Apart from transfer time the rail system could be better than a canal, plus as the goods already being on rail Mexico could do local transfers via rail.
The Mexican option is interesting but problematic. The levels of corruption and criminality makes Mexico not viable. One problem, one "accident ", will block operations.
America government is corrupt in every area. Not sure Mexico is worse just drug dealers get the money. America the politicians get the money.
Why don't they use sea water to run the Panama canal?
The Panama Canal is not at sea level. The United States did not have the technology to drill the Panama mountain range, so they created the lock system to raise ships to the level of Gatun Lake in the center of the country and then lower it on the other side in the Caribbean.
1) Costs. It takes a lot of energy to pump the volumes of water to higher levels.
2) ground salinity. Canals aren't impervious, unless you fully construct them with water immpervious materials (certain concretes come to mind, just clay doesn't cut it). Some of the salt water will seep into the ground, eventually killing off any possibility of agriculture in the region. And when it's there, it won't go away unless a lot of fresh water is used to flush it out...
3)corrosion of equipment. You'll need to saline proof all locks etc. Ships are (somewhat) made to sail in a saline environment, fresh water locks aren't. This will result in a steep increase of maintenance costs or the requirement of building a complete new set of locks (concrete poured with fresh water conditions in mind erodes a lot faster in salt water conditions. For example, if the concrete isn't completely impervious, chlorine ions will migrate to the concrete weaponing, corroding it).
There are several problems with using sea water. First, sea water only exists at sea level. Billions of acre-feet of salt water would have to be pumped over land into the inland lakes at enormous cost in energy and money. Filling freshwater lakes with salt water would utterly destroy the existing Panamanian ecosystem, triggering an extinction level environmental disaster.
In fact, you should do your research in the case of the Mayan Train as well, it really isn't well planned and they ignored many environmental impact issues, in fact it has already contaminated several underground aquifer systems (in Yucatan they are called cenotes) damaging local fauna and endemic species, apart from the budget is way above what it was supposed to spend, it's normal for projects to cost more than expected, but this project exceeds everything that will be paid in decades.
The Mayan train and the inter-oceanic corridor are two different things.
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@@mattbosley3531 i'm just saying because he mention it on the end of the video
@@seterminoelchayotebarbadil804 Ugh don't mention them...
Isnt deleting cargo off one ship, putting it on rails and then loading it back up to another ship horribly inefficient too? It takes like 3 days straight to delete one of those mega cargoships, so basicly 6 days just for switching loads. Sure still better than 3 weeks wait on the panama canal but....
A second canal won't hurt panama because atm there is more ships than one canal can get through. Reducing the traffic would actually help Panama.
You should do a video on the destruction of the ecosystem in Las Vegas.
It use to have streams and geysers but now it's just a city no streams geysers just a couple flood changes thats it.
Use to have ponds and native palm trees around these ponds now nothing.
Is there a reason that the WEST coast USA can't have a port for those ships to go to instead?
This Mexico corridor will be good for Mexico, AND good for America!
Of course it will good for Asia, Oceanía, Africa, Europe and America!
The railroad idea the people that have a problem just show them enough $$$ & they’ll be happy
So when did Steve become the narrator?
A pipeline seems like a good idea or several for different products.
trains cant carry the volume of ships
What about the ecological impact it would have to make a direct connection between pacific and atlantic ocean??- the panama canal doesnt have that issue due to how its designed with gates n shit.
A direct connection wouldnt have same shielding effect
I found this interesting. However, I felt like this video was never going end. It seemed more like 50 mins not 21.
New Air cargo methods will change the current norm quickly.
I thought there was a railway line from the west coast to the east coast... so why doesn't China deliver to the east coast of America?
How do you forget to make yourself a cup of coffee?
People act like panama is the only port because it's the main port for all drug trade
You know drugs in the United States come easy from the south and opium and heroine started being introduced to the US before the Panama Canal existed?
In U.S drugs enter in 1874, morphine and opium have a much longer history in the world. Cocaine consumption had grown since 1899 that come from south that dont never need go to any 1914 Canal of Panama
The Erie Canal was built in the early 1800s and it’s how long?
Manufacture at home give your head a shake which gives all these country’s employment
Ever seen a train with 10,000 cars?
And dont forget, panama also has a train between the pacific and atlantic ports that can be expanded
Are you a bot?
@@AthamAldecua no why?
They could build 20 rails side by side if they wanted to, I wonder how many they plan to make?
And honestly with their new president I'm not sure they gonna do it
Container ships from China come in true the West Coast not the East Coast. You got plenty of West Coast ports.
Send in the Tesla bots!
I'm not honestly concerned with maintaining China's economy.
Why don't they just put the ships on oversized trains? LOL
Why not just send your ship to the west coast of the USA. There are extensive rail networks that criss cross the country.
like the drug cartels would let this happen without taking a huge cut of the profits. this is a bad idea. like the mexican government will help the poor people who live there. have they ever done that before?
One thing I never understood maybe this is something I don't know but why not cut off the freshwater and make it all salt water
Why doesn't Mexico utilize the Baja strip for ports and rail hub into the US? I don't know the area so I'm just asking.
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Yes sounds good but if you know anything about money and people in power...None of that will help the poor people!!! GREED will always win
I have driven though the areain mexico....and i remember, the wind moves rapidly.
the panama canal is done already. it accumulates sediment at a rate that can not be stopped
Peace. Mexico's canal should prioritize vessels carrying perishable goods. These distributors could better count on shorter waiting times to go through rather than risk weeks in, 'wait' mode at Panama Canal. Peace.
What Mexican canal?
@@brucealanwilson4121 Peace. Thank you for replying, for query. Mexico's administrative and legal staffs have started construction, in Vera Cruz and far souhern areas of Mexico, to build another trans-continentalcanal to facilitate commerce between Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. Panama Canal's shipping traffic has increased to past reasonable capacity. Servicing traversing shipping can extend to waiting times of three weeks, more or less. Millions of pesos have already been invested and are being expended on second canal. It will take more than a handful of years for facilities to be ready to provide services. Peace.
@gloriagarza6823 It isn't a canal--it is a railroad line.
@@brucealanwilson4121 Peace. Thank you again. It is a railroad; a planned canal; a planned industrial park with facilities. Please refer to podcast's openung remarks. Am taking this final train to... Peace.
train conveyor automated so cargo are loaded and unloaded on a permanent moving trainturning in circle lol would work
FBI hat on the desk?
200k per ship tollfee should be cost less for ship owner.
Would it not be possible to add a port in Oregon California or Washington states coastline ? Something like they do for the mini passenger luxury ships.
There is a minimum of two parts per each state that you just mentioned this person just fell to mention the truth most of the shipments from China come in through the West Coast
The state of Oregon has 23 ports, California has 11
Am I the only one asking why the $%^ they don't figure out a way to use OCEAN water?
Way too many ads on this video.
Better yet how about sticking all that money back here in the USA! WE build our own deep water port any where from Washington to California, an put Americans or migrants to work. Since the ships are coming here anyway. It could be done! Elon could find a way!!!! How about ask for his help, after all the man is a genius. Now think of the tax on imports.
What about the China and Russia Northern Shipping lanes and plan for warming Arctic waters, that's the purpose of melting the Arctic ice glaciers (aka purposeful global warming cooperative). US and Canadian forces in July intercepted Russian and Chinese bombers flying together near Alaska for the first time, while their two navies operated together in international waters off the Alaskan coast in 2022 and 2023, according to the US military (report by CNN intl). Northcom & Norway have expressed concerns. In the meanwhile, U.S. public news talks about Trump gossip & promotes Harris campaign of U.S. citizen abortion.
I could prob get a new canal/border done for 1/4 the price of the “line city”