Just a point of clarification because there’s some incorrect info in this content: The increased tracking is always active on this exotic. All “strengthened heavy knife” does is increase the damage so the knife will kill on a body shot.
Yo it’s Wockhardt from that last match again sorry for playing so shit. I was nervous as hell, plus I was already having a bad time this weekend playing so I just crumbled. Was an honor playing with you I hope to redeem my self one day so I don’t look as bad lol. Again sorry for that game I’ll be better next time.
As someone who mains this exotic, this was such a fun video to watch! Thanks for making such awesome trials videos, this is the best one you’ve done with this exotic by far! As a little idea/tip, I’ve found that bouncing the knife ceiling and then wall (when there is a ceiling) works much better than “floor to wall” - especially against titan barricades or when they’re behind cover! :)
The Adhortative craftable pulse with Heal Clip and Golden Tricorn could be insane with this build. Get the first kill to proc the knife, reload to heal then peak with the knife throw.
Wild! But probably played comp a few times and never has since. While I won't be able to compare to that amount of kills, I'm at silver 1 and only played comp at the start of the season or so and haven't touched it since.
Before the major sandbox PvP update, you could use a Swashbuckler bow to 1-tap after the Athrys Knife. Monte Carlo to proc the Embrace. Kill with knife to become radiant and Swash 5. Kill chain with 1-taps and Ember of Emperyean to keep it going. Fun in sixes, but then you're the guy using a bow...
Frost-EE5 with acrobat dodge is also nuts. Free 15% buff for your whole team every 25-30s of sprinting (you can sprint before and after a round) pretty much. Surprised more people don’t use it
I love this build! It's my main thing for the majority of pvp content A few interesting things to note (that may have been noted by others here already) is that having the exotic on always gives you the super tracking on the second bounce! The weighted knife is just for the bonus damage, so it can be worth it to just double bounce it around a corner to secure a kill against someone thats peek shooting you :) Second thing to note is that you were actually very correct in not building into strength, as having weighted knife active without your melee charge gives you a massive strength buff! I think it may even set it to 10 Also, this one's really niche to jav-4, but there's actually a super consistent floor-wall bounce on outside point to hit those people that you tried to ceiling-wall that one time! Throw it past that panel cover to their left so it bounces off of the wall to the left of the doorway behind them
this has been my go-to exotic for all things Crucible since forever tbh, I'm glad it's getting more recognition, but yeah it's pretty busted when you learn how to make use of angles to your advantage
My favorite weapon loadout to use Athrys's Embrace with is a scout like that exotic kinetic I've forgotten the name of and a hand cannon like exalted truth Works very well Edit: Scout rifle is Dead Man's Tale
its map dependent and the tracking isn't as op as it was after it got nerfed a while back so i dont think it needs a nerf also the weapon choice matters as well
@@abdalrhman7998 there is no available counter play to this exotic besides “hope they don’t hit headshots” and “hope the knife doesn’t track” It shouldn’t be able to one hit kill to the body
@@kenpachi2607 that’s not counterplay, that’s just hoping the tracking doesn’t catch you. There’s nothing you can personally do to stop it if it does. Also there is not a lot of setup. The setup is hit 4-5 headshots with an auto and then lob a knife.
U can set this build up for easy ignites as well. With the right fragments. Just chuck an incendiary and as long as theyre burning u can trip ignite with the knife
I've always been wondering how to use Athrys's Embrace. Thanks for summoning it up quite well, Jake. I'll give those gauntlets a try. If I were to focus them from the Cryptarch, what would be the better ghost mod to equip to get a better stat on?
I got a summoner w/ golden tricorn a couple of weeks ago, and I’ve been running this build in 6’s since. It’s extremely fun (for me. I get a lot of hate mail tho 😂).
Resilience in the Crucible increases how many points of shield health you have, so small changes in damage (like Surges, damage over time, exotic perks and the like) influence your opponents optimal TTK. Generally, having higher Resilience means your opponent will have to be more accurate because of this, but people argue about what the most desirable number is because people have different priorities and face different weapons.
This build made me switch from Titan but it was seriously rough at the beginning because I would constantly waste it trying to shoulder charge past sniper lanes 😂😂
I use this build a lot in pvp and it works great with the fragment that causes your ignitions to be bigger paired with the incendiary grenade since the weighted knife can cause scorched enemies to ignite. I’ve managed quite a few multi kills with that set up bouncing the grenade off of a wall around a corner then following up with a non strengthened knife off the floor to wall or ceiling to wall. Fast ball definitely helps with that grenade as well. I usually pair it with Monte and beloved but have also used conditional and the bxr pulse with it. Both set ups are loads of fun with this build.
I play on Xbox One series X and when I start a game on trials I never see other player on Xbox , there's only ps player in my lobby .... Someone know how that's possible ?
I wouldn’t really say it’s a problem but it’s defiantly a good choice for people looking to get an opening pick to a round but the exotic has been slept on by most hunters and hunters bud video goes to show how strong it can be in the new PvP sand box
Well if someone ask me to describe hunter's knife build i'd say "Hate!", hate that this absurdios exist, hate Bungie that they done this, hate that Hunters exist, hate that Bungie nerf Titan's melee but left as he is Hunter's knife and gauntlets.
Just an idea. It'll go unnoticed for sure. Get every major d2 streamer/content creators to go on strike. Strike until destiny does something about the hackers/zims/chronus. Just tell bungie no! I know it's a lot to ask. This is your income. But the ininfluence you have is monumental
Seriously hate when UA-camrs use the same shit that I’ve had for years because since Bungie watches them the devs use them as a playtest of extremes and say well on the high end this is too strong and Nerf the one play style that is keeping me to this game
The knives already one shot and instantly come back in a sandbox where special ammo is limited making it already kinda broken, this exotic just takes away skill from it
Abusing? Lmfao he’s using it exactly how it’s supposed to be lol what we need to worry about is every Tom dick and Harry out there running the same build
"Is this one-shot exotic a problem?"..... nahhhhhh it's fine cuz it isn't for a titan.... if it was for a titan tho then naturally it would need to be nerfed IMMEDIATELY
Im betting just because this is the last untouched hunter gauntlet exotic bungie is going to destroy them because they think its funny. And thats why sony is going to take over. Hunters have only ever had our cool shit destroyed because of assholes in crucible hiding behind walls and complaining because i have a way to get around their ANTICS. Im tired of acting like a team player when it’s EVIDENT hunters aren’t welcome.
@@silverreverence6176 setup? you mean landing a few headshots without even getting a kill? then just throwing a knife into a wall near a ping on the radar and getting a free kill? you cannot be serious. there is literally no counter play to it. You died instantly from a heat seeking knife that bounced around a corner because your teammate who didn't even die happened to get shot in the head.
@@LennyLeLenny nah it’s got clear counterplay. Just never get shot at all and always stay at least 3 knife bounces away from the enemy. Or just uninstall. That’s the counterplay. Hope this helps :D
There was various comments I wanted to further comment on or go against & make comparisons, but mann my youtube app tryna act up all the sudden 🤦🏻♂️🤣 Bruh, how yall trippin on this when theres dudes comin outta nowhere with strand abilities destroying the whole gang & dudes flyin in the air and triple killin errrrbody on A?!? 🤣 my personal experience ( never played destiny before, started like 2 weeks ago, prolly 20 games of crucible) not once killed by this. Always some BS strand ability or some dude comin out the cuts barely popped on radar and one shot meleeing me… or some dude straight up MW2 commando pro’ing me outta nowhere with a sword. Plenty of more dogshiiiiteeee to worry about brothers. This takes more skill then just tappin ult or sending lil maggots around the corner or sumn🤦🏻♂️
I always love watching people use this thing. It's SO absurd. You DO have to earn it to get it ready, I suppose, but MAN when it works, it feels like you're cheating :p
Over powered hunters in pvp with all their damage exotics and dodging for health and or radiant it's getting ridiculous why can't warlocks or titans have anything like this it's just unfair advantage all the time and they can go invisible I mean really come on let's balance all the characters please some people like to play other characters but to a disadvantage.
Just a point of clarification because there’s some incorrect info in this content: The increased tracking is always active on this exotic. All “strengthened heavy knife” does is increase the damage so the knife will kill on a body shot.
Thank you
Yo it’s Wockhardt from that last match again sorry for playing so shit. I was nervous as hell, plus I was already having a bad time this weekend playing so I just crumbled. Was an honor playing with you I hope to redeem my self one day so I don’t look as bad lol. Again sorry for that game I’ll be better next time.
Wockhardt 😂
“Bible on the dash, wocky in the glovebox”
Acknowledging failure os the first step to strength. In other words, get good
bro actually wrote a apology letter
@@goboyghostI’m dying laughing about this
The 2nd bounce always has the tracking even when the perk isn’t active
As someone who mains this exotic, this was such a fun video to watch! Thanks for making such awesome trials videos, this is the best one you’ve done with this exotic by far!
As a little idea/tip, I’ve found that bouncing the knife ceiling and then wall (when there is a ceiling) works much better than “floor to wall” - especially against titan barricades or when they’re behind cover! :)
Wait thats actually big brain
The Adhortative craftable pulse with Heal Clip and Golden Tricorn could be insane with this build. Get the first kill to proc the knife, reload to heal then peak with the knife throw.
4:32 Jake’s reaction was priceless 😂😂😂😂
Just matched up with someone who has 10028000 crucible kills in silver 1
Nah I feel that😭
Wild!
But probably played comp a few times and never has since. While I won't be able to compare to that amount of kills, I'm at silver 1 and only played comp at the start of the season or so and haven't touched it since.
You play comp? I only did it for rose an i got 2 god rolls an never pooked back 😅
Before the major sandbox PvP update, you could use a Swashbuckler bow to 1-tap after the Athrys Knife. Monte Carlo to proc the Embrace. Kill with knife to become radiant and Swash 5. Kill chain with 1-taps and Ember of Emperyean to keep it going.
Fun in sixes, but then you're the guy using a bow...
I was gunna say at 5:00 he missed his opportunity to melt with Golden Tricorn x2 but he ran out of time just as he killed the guy with his knife
Nah he had x2 for 10 seconds just swapped to the sidearm so it went away
Frost-EE5 with acrobat dodge is also nuts. Free 15% buff for your whole team every 25-30s of sprinting (you can sprint before and after a round) pretty much. Surprised more people don’t use it
Guys let’s play an anti-fun meta build 120 Igneous with Conditional 🤓
That’s why
I love this build! It's my main thing for the majority of pvp content
A few interesting things to note (that may have been noted by others here already) is that having the exotic on always gives you the super tracking on the second bounce! The weighted knife is just for the bonus damage, so it can be worth it to just double bounce it around a corner to secure a kill against someone thats peek shooting you :)
Second thing to note is that you were actually very correct in not building into strength, as having weighted knife active without your melee charge gives you a massive strength buff! I think it may even set it to 10
Also, this one's really niche to jav-4, but there's actually a super consistent floor-wall bounce on outside point to hit those people that you tried to ceiling-wall that one time! Throw it past that panel cover to their left so it bounces off of the wall to the left of the doorway behind them
Noooooo you are blowing our special secret haha amazing gameplay as always 👌
Yeah I’ve been using this for years, it’s so fun and can absolutely get you out of some tricky situations
This is so broken. No counterplay for the victim. Just a mysterious death in cover. Pretty much totally against d2 crucible principles.
Shocked it has gone untouched for so long. I’ve been expecting an athrys meta ever since spines got nerfed
this has been my go-to exotic for all things Crucible since forever tbh, I'm glad it's getting more recognition, but yeah it's pretty busted when you learn how to make use of angles to your advantage
My favorite weapon loadout to use Athrys's Embrace with is a scout like that exotic kinetic I've forgotten the name of and a hand cannon like exalted truth
Works very well
Edit: Scout rifle is Dead Man's Tale
I'm still amazed they haven't nerfed this exotic, it's actually absurd how potent it is for just landing headshots without even a kill requirement.
They did nerf it, it use to have INSANELY aggressive tracking, now its moderate compared to what it once was. Still really good though
its map dependent and the tracking isn't as op as it was after it got nerfed a while back so i dont think it needs a nerf also the weapon choice matters as well
@@abdalrhman7998 there is no available counter play to this exotic besides “hope they don’t hit headshots” and “hope the knife doesn’t track”
It shouldn’t be able to one hit kill to the body
@im44789 the counter is they nerfed the tracking. The exotic requires a lot of set up to even function.
@@kenpachi2607 that’s not counterplay, that’s just hoping the tracking doesn’t catch you. There’s nothing you can personally do to stop it if it does. Also there is not a lot of setup. The setup is hit 4-5 headshots with an auto and then lob a knife.
U can set this build up for easy ignites as well. With the right fragments. Just chuck an incendiary and as long as theyre burning u can trip ignite with the knife
When the Strengthened Knife is active you also gain +50 strengh. so only tier 4 or 5 strength is needed
I’ve tried this in PvE going for 300k+, most I’ve hit was 132k a couple of times in GMs. It’s a ton of setup but when you hit high it feels amazing
peregrine greaves titans only wish they could get such cheesy melee kills
Bro… this is my main exotic please don’t get it nerfed. It’s important that ppl continue to think it’s “gimmicky”
Athrys became my Jav-4 loadoud last week and I had so many round clutches bc of this exact instance 4:50
Fun fact, strengthen knives kill anyone in a well so you don’t need to worry if you don’t have a super
Oh lord here we go, Frost first now this.
I've always been wondering how to use Athrys's Embrace. Thanks for summoning it up quite well, Jake. I'll give those gauntlets a try. If I were to focus them from the Cryptarch, what would be the better ghost mod to equip to get a better stat on?
What are the mods for your throwing knives build and what are the required weapon for your build
I like using it for clean ups too not just wait till I get the perk bc the extra tracking is always there after the 2nd bounce
I remember when Th3Jez used this a lot. Aways wondered why crucible isn't flooded with it.
This is one of those videos where having chat reaction would be nice
I got a summoner w/ golden tricorn a couple of weeks ago, and I’ve been running this build in 6’s since. It’s extremely fun (for me. I get a lot of hate mail tho 😂).
So I’ve been using bad juju and athrys embrace for a month+.
Guess I’ll be in the Jake impersonator group now 😂
If you have more Resilience doesn't it mean u can take more damage? or do interactions stay the same having tier 10 as to tier 2-3?
Resilience in the Crucible increases how many points of shield health you have, so small changes in damage (like Surges, damage over time, exotic perks and the like) influence your opponents optimal TTK. Generally, having higher Resilience means your opponent will have to be more accurate because of this, but people argue about what the most desirable number is because people have different priorities and face different weapons.
This is my favorite hunter exotic to use in PvP lol. It’s so gimmicky but so fun.
I’m in your video and your summoner melted my soul😂
This is the only build I play pvp with. It's such a fun gameplay loop.
This still doesn’t make me as mad as stasis spam and strand hunters
My man said that's not the kind of youtube or I am
This build made me switch from Titan but it was seriously rough at the beginning because I would constantly waste it trying to shoulder charge past sniper lanes 😂😂
It's gonna take a while to unlearn your crayon eating ways, but I know you can do it
"He was weak, so he d**d." - Conan, or possibly Jake
Nice, peak angles my man 👌 you are hilarious with the random ass saves this vid. Great example of Athrys'
This video was so sick. I wish i could pull off ole arthritis brace. I ain't played hunter enough.
Jorums claw can also get golden tricorn and is a pretty good match for this build
Love the vids man your making me want to comeback to Destiny
4:32 what’s insane is that’s post nerf tracking. It was even stronger when if first came out. 😂
Why not use a Summoner with Swashbuckler then? You’d still get to 45 damage but you don’t need the setup of x2 tricorn.
I use this build a lot in pvp and it works great with the fragment that causes your ignitions to be bigger paired with the incendiary grenade since the weighted knife can cause scorched enemies to ignite. I’ve managed quite a few multi kills with that set up bouncing the grenade off of a wall around a corner then following up with a non strengthened knife off the floor to wall or ceiling to wall. Fast ball definitely helps with that grenade as well. I usually pair it with Monte and beloved but have also used conditional and the bxr pulse with it. Both set ups are loads of fun with this build.
Whats your crafted roll?
Crazy trick shot off the roof 👀
I play on Xbox One series X and when I start a game on trials I never see other player on Xbox , there's only ps player in my lobby .... Someone know how that's possible ?
It's completely broken
Try using it
What about ape Titans with their shoulder charge BS?
I wouldn’t really say it’s a problem but it’s defiantly a good choice for people looking to get an opening pick to a round but the exotic has been slept on by most hunters and hunters bud video goes to show how strong it can be in the new PvP sand box
Imagine if titan baby hammer did that.
For everyone mad, this build is mostly good for smaller enclosed maps
AMAZING. Building it ASAP
how do i get it
This seems a little op glad at least clones distract it
Well if someone ask me to describe hunter's knife build i'd say "Hate!", hate that this absurdios exist, hate Bungie that they done this, hate that Hunters exist, hate that Bungie nerf Titan's melee but left as he is Hunter's knife and gauntlets.
i’m happy that you highlighted this build. This build has been out for years now and no one has not used it.
Here starts the death of the build I've been using for two years.
Whats on your sidearm
He goes ahead and talk shoot about Daltnix build with weavewalk and now he uses something really dirty too 🤣
how long before this is nerfed
Iv been using this exotic in trials for years I get so many kills on titans behind barricades
I've been using athry for a long time and it was peaceful
Just an idea. It'll go unnoticed for sure. Get every major d2 streamer/content creators to go on strike. Strike until destiny does something about the hackers/zims/chronus. Just tell bungie no! I know it's a lot to ask. This is your income. But the ininfluence you have is monumental
Seriously hate when UA-camrs use the same shit that I’ve had for years because since Bungie watches them the devs use them as a playtest of extremes and say well on the high end this is too strong and Nerf the one play style that is keeping me to this game
i personally use revision zero with this build
Bro is an 1852 and we have 69 days left! I hope he hits 1900!!
This guy single handedly lobbied to nerf tripmines and the gauntlets. Now he's starting on these gauntlets. Bro. Chill.
Well hello don’t play destiny anymore still ❤ ya Jake 👍🇦🇺
The knives already one shot and instantly come back in a sandbox where special ammo is limited making it already kinda broken, this exotic just takes away skill from it
Ah yes the unlimited kills ranged melee... but shoulder charges are too strong...
They were too strong before the nerfs, but this is by no means balanced either lmao. This is completely broken
I’ve been using this before it was cool
Someone suggesting a hunter exotic is broken?
If u don't stop abusing these Exotics soon You're going to get everything a nerf lol
Abusing? Lmfao he’s using it exactly how it’s supposed to be lol what we need to worry about is every Tom dick and Harry out there running the same build
Yoooo you are a savage for that lmaoo 😂
I believe they nerfed this exotic at some point
Love the melee
"Is this one-shot exotic a problem?"..... nahhhhhh it's fine cuz it isn't for a titan.... if it was for a titan tho then naturally it would need to be nerfed IMMEDIATELY
Yeah OK, that knife isn't broken at all.
I main athrys I have a 100 strength build 🔪
Damned his Video make me build this again 😂but i must farm the exo again ... 😂
When you realise you only need 50 strength, 100 is a waste
Fun stuff
4:30 bink🤣
Welp there goes my build all the youtubers gonna get it nerfed again
Im betting just because this is the last untouched hunter gauntlet exotic bungie is going to destroy them because they think its funny. And thats why sony is going to take over. Hunters have only ever had our cool shit destroyed because of assholes in crucible hiding behind walls and complaining because i have a way to get around their ANTICS. Im tired of acting like a team player when it’s EVIDENT hunters aren’t welcome.
Whelp my build is getting nerfed
1852 dawg wtf
I wanna use this with ammit hahaha
Nice vid
How many times people talked about this exotic? It's good, but not oppressive that it needs a nerf
did you watch the video lmao?
@@LennyLeLennyit takes set up and then a situation to be useful. Nothing compared to the other classes kit.
@@silverreverence6176 setup? you mean landing a few headshots without even getting a kill? then just throwing a knife into a wall near a ping on the radar and getting a free kill? you cannot be serious.
there is literally no counter play to it. You died instantly from a heat seeking knife that bounced around a corner because your teammate who didn't even die happened to get shot in the head.
@@LennyLeLenny nah it’s got clear counterplay. Just never get shot at all and always stay at least 3 knife bounces away from the enemy. Or just uninstall. That’s the counterplay. Hope this helps :D
There was various comments I wanted to further comment on or go against & make comparisons, but mann my youtube app tryna act up all the sudden 🤦🏻♂️🤣 Bruh, how yall trippin on this when theres dudes comin outta nowhere with strand abilities destroying the whole gang & dudes flyin in the air and triple killin errrrbody on A?!? 🤣 my personal experience ( never played destiny before, started like 2 weeks ago, prolly 20 games of crucible) not once killed by this. Always some BS strand ability or some dude comin out the cuts barely popped on radar and one shot meleeing me… or some dude straight up MW2 commando pro’ing me outta nowhere with a sword. Plenty of more dogshiiiiteeee to worry about brothers. This takes more skill then just tappin ult or sending lil maggots around the corner or sumn🤦🏻♂️
4:23😅😅😅
Yeah it is pretty bad, they should nerf titans as a result 😆
I’ve been away from destiny on holiday for 2 weeks and I’m already gonna come back to another broken game… thanks bungie 😂😂
I always love watching people use this thing. It's SO absurd. You DO have to earn it to get it ready, I suppose, but MAN when it works, it feels like you're cheating :p
Over powered hunters in pvp with all their damage exotics and dodging for health and or radiant it's getting ridiculous why can't warlocks or titans have anything like this it's just unfair advantage all the time and they can go invisible I mean really come on let's balance all the characters please some people like to play other characters but to a disadvantage.
You just copied chibirobo’s build 😂
Who?
@@thomassimmons1306 read you dummie
F-ck this game. I'm done!
ahahaaa no wormhuskk