The Pe-le story fails the Bechdel test (two women fight over a man), so why didn't Mike use his "judgey" voice like he did with the patriarchy episode?
Sure that might be true about the only dialogue that was commented on, but throughout the rest of the story (ie. Pe-le playing on the beach with her sisters, the youngest sister with her spirit friends (do spirits have genders?)) we have to assume for good of womankind that there was more to talk about than a hunky, twice dead prince.
In regards to your confusion at 2:24, in ancient Hawaiʻi the act of "kissing" did not actually mean the touching of lips, or any other part of the body for that matter. It was simply the exchanging of breaths between two people (honi). Kissing as we know it did not happen back then.
The Pe-le story fails the Bechdel test (two women fight over a man), so why didn't Mike use his "judgey" voice like he did with the patriarchy episode?
but that IS the whole point of bechdel test. This test is not a universal standard by the way, failing or not failing it doesn't make a sexist story okay and vice versa, it just highlights a wide problem, where we never see women on screen, and they don't seem to have a life. But common, here they have a family and they talk about naps, that sure counts. But there are plenty of stories which barely even feature one woman, soooo
You've really got to appreciate Native American ideologies sometimes. Treating women as men's equals, honouring the animals that they kill for food, and having an overall peaceful system that works in harmony with nature. Such a shame that the European conquerors never took the time to learn these valuable teachings from them.
moonlight ray Good point. I'm actually a strain of Orthodox Christian and when we hunt we always have to pray for the animal, or something. Sorry, I'm just 15, I'm not entirely sure. Also venison is incredible.
Also South Asian ideologies don't even eat animals (most of the time, at least; some aren't inherently veggie but a lot are). Not from there, but I heard that Sikhism thinks that the soul is genderless, immediately eliminating any religious argument for sexism or homophobia. Also, Native Americans weren't the best for sexism. They still had rigid gender roles (homemaker & warrior) just like the rest of the world, and it's pretty much always been "women and children first" in every culture. I guess that Celts had quite a few female warriors, although apparently women were the dominant gender so still technically unequal.
and woh for the Goddess of the wings favored man. and granted them a gift laced in the fire. let who can eateth the wings be granted blessing of the Gods
I don't see what you're trying to say here, MyLittle. (May I call you 'MyLittle'?) Consent and monogamy are two entirely different things. Two unmarried, uncommitted people can give consent the first night they meet. A married person can withhold consent on any given occasion. (Or even every occasion, which can be a drag for their partner.)
imagine how this looks, kissing while standing with your hands on your back. something like this: www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=13003795
Because Pele didn’t technically kill Hopoe. She transformed her into a rock that balances on the edge of a cliff, swaying in the wind as if dancing (because Hopoe was known for her hula skills). Hi’iaka doesn’t have the same powers as Pele and also, once transformed, usually cannot be un-transformed. In Hawaiian thought, transformation into rocks, trees, birds, fish, winds, and such does not equal death, because those are just as alive as humans.
It's always interesting that most artwork of Native Americans includes horses. Horses that the Native Americans didn't have for most of their existence.
Probably one of the most value parts of Native American lives along to with guns while Europeans where settling North America. And yet I would think that there would be a lot art from the thousands of years of Native American life without horses vs. a couple hundred years with horses.
Most European art is about the life of a man that never stepped outside of the Levant and lived before the Roman Empire broke apart. Cultural exchange is a powerful thing.
The time when Native Americans had horses spans several centuries, though. We also know very little about e.g. Great Plains culture in pre-Columbian times. Native American culture was in many ways profoundly transformed by the contact, even in regions where no or almost no Europeans went in person.
It's because when we did recieve the horse, it was so impactful on our lives and our people considered them very sacred so then put them on everything. We still do. There's also many guns on ledger art and animal skin art depictions.
And this brings home the shame on the early settlers in the U.S. - they thought there was no culture. They were so very wrong and wiped out conservatively 20 million Native Americans.
Well yeah smallpox and other diseases. And here's the joke, part of my genetic profile includes Native American and I know how it got there. Seems one of my ancestors went native.
Well... one of your ancestors had a taste for native women. That doesn't mean it was consensual (don't feel bad, around 1 in 200 men on the _planet_ has been found to be directly descended from Genghis Khan).
Leo Bat The settlers may have done certain things better than the indigenous population, but the native people were better than settlers in other ways. That makes neither group savages, and does not condone the often horrific actions of settlers.
This was an amazing episode, I hope you'll do more episodes like this where you talk in depth about two similar myths. A mini break between larger themes.
Sometimes the stories are so great, I just want to enjoy them as that: Stories. No thinking, no analogies, nothing. That's what I did this episode, and it was pretty nice. So thanks for that!
For Ptesanwin it was simply an attempted touch, not a kiss. The point is don't touch women without their permission. In Lakota ways, men used to not even be able to speak to women who weren't related to them or obviously their wife. They would have to ask permission to court her and then courted her through playing flute and other sweet gestures.
In ancient Hawaiʻi, the "kiss" was not the touching of lips. It was the exchanging of breath between two people, which did not necessarily involve touching. A bit of cultural context required to understand.
I clearly discovered Crash Course Mythology too late. I would love the Thoth Provoking Tote Bag, but it seems they are long gone. Any chance they'll be rereleased?
Mahalo nō i kou hoʻolaha ʻana mai no ko mākou akua aloha nui ʻia ʻo Pele! Auē naʻe ka hemahema o kou puana! Thank you for spreading this story about our beloved goddess Pele! Your pronunciation needs a bit more work, however!
This is so incredible I am in awe. To say how much I enjoy watching this course I can say I am doing it instead of playing Sims 4 or going to sleep hahaha
I wonder if they're going to tell the myth about the pompous, greedy emperor whose ambitious court sorceress transformed him into a llama, where he learns a lesson about humility and selflessness.
I appreciate the effort to avoid any possible slurs, but FYI Thathánka Oyáte (Bison/Buffalo Nation) is a term in Lakhóta that specifically refers to the bison themselves, not to the people. Collectively the bison are considered the "bison nation", deer as collectively of the "deer nation" etc, since the term for "nation" is not exclusively used for humans
It took me a moment to realize you were saying lehua because you were pronouncing it wrong. It's pronounce lëhuä (or ley-hoo-ah which is the best way I can type this out.) And as some commenters have said Pele is pronounced with a short-mid /e/ so it would be something like Pe̞le̞ (Phehleyh - Aspirated /p/ and a reminder that the /e̞/ is short.) If you don't know how the vowels sound you can look them up on the IPA Vowel Chart. There are several sites that contain audio versions so that you can hear what the vowels sound like. Hawaiian is phonetically similar to Japanese so if you have background in Japanese just pronounce Hawaiian words like you would Japanese words. I highly encourage learning how to pronounce words of the things you are going to be talking about. There are many sources that are ready to help!
Grateful to hear our legends of the great Pacific being told on platforms foreign to our own. Yet, the pronunciation needs some work and imagery and focus weren’t true to the tale. Hōpoe was a spirit, but the idea of spirits and beings in island mythology aren’t of these strange creatures. Hōpoe was human looking, not this leafy little dude. Hōpoe was the being that taught (Hi’iakaikapoliopele) Hi’iaka the ancient art of hula. Because Hi’iaka went through many unforeseen obstacles and trials (like reviving Lohi’au’ipo), Pele thought her absence was evidence of betrayal. In her waiting, her jealousy and distrust grew, and her lava ate the land. Taking the lehua groves and consuming Hōpoe, turning her to stone. Hi’iaka would continue to hula in honor of Hōpoe. The legend is a lesson in trust. A legend of patience and understanding. To understand the connections of siblings etc.
In the West African Yoruba pantheon, there is also Oya (AKA Iansa) who is one of the "hot Gods, ) associated with hurricanes. She is also associated with the African Buffalo. In one myth, she tells her husband never to look in the closet. Of course, he does and finds a buffalo skin, so she kills him. Oya has two lovers who are always fighting over her. One, Shango, is the god of lightning, drums and dancing. The other, Ogun, is the God of blacksmithing, iron, and war. It seems that there is a global connection between hot, fiery goddesses and buffalo.
3:31 -- "Well, mostly dead." What, no Princess Bride reference? You should NEVER pass up the opportunity to make a Princess Bride reference. Pelé doesn't like it! (The footballer, I mean, not the goddess. She's never even seen Princess Bride.) OK, lemme do it for ya': "Well, it just so happens that your friend here is only mostly dead." There you go. You're welcome.
8:00 you said the story happened so long ago it was before horses, but horses were brought to the Americas by Europeans a little over 500 years ago so it doesn't give me much indication of how old the story actually is. Unless you're saying the story is only 500 years old
The prehistoric horses in the Americas weren't domesticated or ridden. The video implied that the guy had to walk because it was before horses, but rideable horses weren't around until the Europeans introduced them
Most myths have a very vague placement in time. Like, nobody alive today was alive when the myths were taking place, but mythic figures always seem to have culture and technology much more similar to that of the storytellers than that of their ancestors. So, to give a conservative estimate, White Buffalo Woman probably gave people the pipe at some point before last Thursday. Yes, it was definitely before then. Australians have come up with the term "dream-time" to describe that unclear temporal location, and I absolutely adore it. It's so widely applicable.
OK Dirt Rider In short - yes. This story, you have to remember, survived mostly as part of an oral tradition, being told and re-told by one generation to the next. As such, details tend to fluctuate or just outright get lost. Honestly, the fact that we even know it took place before horses arrived is a lot more than with most other old stories and myths.
This is a very minor thing, but kind of surprising from Crash Course: There are at least two blatant punctuation errors. One boo-boo is at 9:45 -- a comma is missing between "the trees" and "the grasses." Then, at 10:18, there is a renegade double quotation mark (") after the appropriate single quotation mark at the end of "You are from Mother Earth." Sometimes I feel like the princess in the Princess and the Pea.
you should discuss how geography affects mythology. for instance: the predictable Nile lead to benevolent gods, and the tiberus and eufrates flooded irregularly and often distroyed villages and the gods were angry and vengeful.
Actually lohi'au and Pelehonuamea married, they also made love many times for many nights in her dream. There are other stories that are part of this epic as well. The other thing that was wrong on your telling is that the reason why Pelehonuamea burned Hi'iaka'ikapoli'opele's Grove down was because she vowed to remain chaste until Lohi'au was delivered safely back to the volcano. But Hi'iaka'ikapoli'opele strayed and had a fling with another chief, so Pelehonuamea in rage over Hi'iaka'ikapoli'opele not keeping her promise, burned everything down and transformed Hopoe into a rock. Also the reason why Pele decided to stop destroying is because Hi'iaka'ikapoli'opele's was about to destroy the foundations of Hawai'i island. The older God's intervened and calmed both sisters down. Lohi'au's 'aikane(intimate friend) is a side story.
I really love this series. Ever since I was a kid, I've been quite interested in mythologies. I also have to admit that I have an enormous crush on Mike Rugnetta. He's so well-spoken and funny, and he's very cute too. Consent may be sexy, but Mike is sexier.
Lakota Here. I thought your retelling of the Ptesáŋwiŋ was pretty good, but your pronunciations were pretty funny. FYI, I appreciate your efforts to not refer to our people as Sioux, but a better alternative might have been Očhéthi Šakówiŋ (Council of 7 fires) which is what we call the alliance between the 6 Dakota Tribes and the Lakota tribe. Americans have always called it the Great Sioux Nation. Also Nakota is the incorrect term for 2 tribes of Dakota who have a slightly different dialect (hence the name differences), but they themselves identify as Dakota and not Nakota. Nakoda is a term for a tribe in Canada that speak a language that probably has the same roots as ours but they were not part of the Očhéthi Šakówiŋ. I've devoted a lot of time to reading and understanding our stories and legends. It's nice to see it get a thought bubble segment. Phílamayaye [I thank you]
"Consent is Sexy" is probably the best thing I have ever heard
I need a t-shirt that says "Goddess Groping = Gruesome Death" right now please.
HollyIsInTheWorld same
yes!!!
The Pe-le story fails the Bechdel test (two women fight over a man), so why didn't Mike use his "judgey" voice like he did with the patriarchy episode?
Sure that might be true about the only dialogue that was commented on, but throughout the rest of the story (ie. Pe-le playing on the beach with her sisters, the youngest sister with her spirit friends (do spirits have genders?)) we have to assume for good of womankind that there was more to talk about than a hunky, twice dead prince.
Reverse the gender roles, and see how blase you are about this tale.
Lohiau and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day.
In regards to your confusion at 2:24, in ancient Hawaiʻi the act of "kissing" did not actually mean the touching of lips, or any other part of the body for that matter. It was simply the exchanging of breaths between two people (honi). Kissing as we know it did not happen back then.
"He hanged himself with his loincloth."
So he gave himself a wedgie?
Mikh Gamboa
a deadly one
The Pe-le story fails the Bechdel test (two women fight over a man), so why didn't Mike use his "judgey" voice like he did with the patriarchy episode?
+Benjamin Megginson
In that case, EVERY story passes the Bechdel test
+John M
My, what a reasoned response ...
but that IS the whole point of bechdel test.
This test is not a universal standard by the way, failing or not failing it doesn't make a sexist story okay and vice versa, it just highlights a wide problem, where we never see women on screen, and they don't seem to have a life. But common, here they have a family and they talk about naps, that sure counts. But there are plenty of stories which barely even feature one woman, soooo
+Mikh Gamboa It's sad, but sometimes it's the only way to deal with blue balls.
You've really got to appreciate Native American ideologies sometimes. Treating women as men's equals, honouring the animals that they kill for food, and having an overall peaceful system that works in harmony with nature. Such a shame that the European conquerors never took the time to learn these valuable teachings from them.
moonlight ray Good point. I'm actually a strain of Orthodox Christian and when we hunt we always have to pray for the animal, or something. Sorry, I'm just 15, I'm not entirely sure. Also venison is incredible.
Also South Asian ideologies don't even eat animals (most of the time, at least; some aren't inherently veggie but a lot are). Not from there, but I heard that Sikhism thinks that the soul is genderless, immediately eliminating any religious argument for sexism or homophobia.
Also, Native Americans weren't the best for sexism. They still had rigid gender roles (homemaker & warrior) just like the rest of the world, and it's pretty much always been "women and children first" in every culture. I guess that Celts had quite a few female warriors, although apparently women were the dominant gender so still technically unequal.
+Itka Maax Thank you for correcting me. I never claimed to be an expert, just went off of what the video said.
africa was the same too
moonlight ray I prefer being more technologically advanced though
I would love if we could get bloopers of him learning how to say some of these names and cultures
alexis england he still didn't pronounce them right lol
And he still dosnt say them right...
Fire goddess + buffalo goddess =buffalo wings
and woh for the Goddess of the wings favored man. and granted them a gift laced in the fire. let who can eateth the wings be granted blessing of the Gods
I'm hungry now
🌊☀️☀️🌱🕷️😂🙇♂️🙏🙍🌊🙏🔥✨😗🕷️😗😚😘☀️☀️wfgbnggh FNC thing jh
Consent is sexy. Spread the word!
My fetish is not committing homicide.
+John D'Aversa lolol I like the way you think
No, they say it as if consent is sexy. You don't need to hate on them for that
... which it is (Spread the word!)
I don't see what you're trying to say here, MyLittle. (May I call you 'MyLittle'?) Consent and monogamy are two entirely different things.
Two unmarried, uncommitted people can give consent the first night they meet. A married person can withhold consent on any given occasion. (Or even every occasion, which can be a drag for their partner.)
the lesson: if you touch someone without their consent you will die
My new dating rule: Kiss me, but no touch please!
*blows you a kiss
(^ɞ^)╭- ~ ~ ~
imagine how this looks, kissing while standing with your hands on your back.
something like this: www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=13003795
john pardon Dawww
so stoked to see mythology on tatanka oyate! mitakuye oyasin, crash course!
thumbs up for Wind Waker reference
mathiasthewise moana thumbnail!!!!!
and Breath of the Wild Koroks!
The Koroks in BOTW come from Wind Waker
oh really?! I wasn't allowed to have consoles as a kid so I never got to play Wind waker :/
It's a me, Makar!
I'm in tears of joy for the fact that you don't use "Sioux"!!
Yeah, and recognizes it's a slur.
Why is that a bad word?
Man, I love this series.
the first story is like a telenovela.
"terrible things will happen to you if you try to touch a great goddess without her permission"
me: DAMN RIGHT
If she could resurrect the guy, why couldn't she just resurrect her tree friend too?
Probably different skills needed to resurrect a human soul vs a tree spirit.
She had used the last of her magic, magic that originally came from Pele.
Because Pele didn’t technically kill Hopoe. She transformed her into a rock that balances on the edge of a cliff, swaying in the wind as if dancing (because Hopoe was known for her hula skills). Hi’iaka doesn’t have the same powers as Pele and also, once transformed, usually cannot be un-transformed.
In Hawaiian thought, transformation into rocks, trees, birds, fish, winds, and such does not equal death, because those are just as alive as humans.
Leanne 6
It's always interesting that most artwork of Native Americans includes horses. Horses that the Native Americans didn't have for most of their existence.
Reactor89 they must have really valued horses.
Probably one of the most value parts of Native American lives along to with guns while Europeans where settling North America. And yet I would think that there would be a lot art from the thousands of years of Native American life without horses vs. a couple hundred years with horses.
Most European art is about the life of a man that never stepped outside of the Levant and lived before the Roman Empire broke apart. Cultural exchange is a powerful thing.
The time when Native Americans had horses spans several centuries, though.
We also know very little about e.g. Great Plains culture in pre-Columbian times. Native American culture was in many ways profoundly transformed by the contact, even in regions where no or almost no Europeans went in person.
It's because when we did recieve the horse, it was so impactful on our lives and our people considered them very sacred so then put them on everything. We still do. There's also many guns on ledger art and animal skin art depictions.
And this brings home the shame on the early settlers in the U.S. - they thought there was no culture. They were so very wrong and wiped out conservatively 20 million Native Americans.
Well yeah smallpox and other diseases. And here's the joke, part of my genetic profile includes Native American and I know how it got there. Seems one of my ancestors went native.
Greed is claiming unworked land to support an inefficient hunter-gatherer lifestyle when there are landless farmers in Europe.
Vae Victis.
Well... one of your ancestors had a taste for native women. That doesn't mean it was consensual (don't feel bad, around 1 in 200 men on the _planet_ has been found to be directly descended from Genghis Khan).
Leo Bat The settlers may have done certain things better than the indigenous population, but the native people were better than settlers in other ways. That makes neither group savages, and does not condone the often horrific actions of settlers.
This was an amazing episode, I hope you'll do more episodes like this where you talk in depth about two similar myths. A mini break between larger themes.
Sometimes the stories are so great, I just want to enjoy them as that: Stories. No thinking, no analogies, nothing. That's what I did this episode, and it was pretty nice. So thanks for that!
MisterMonkeyMonk my thoughts
"Mostly dead" Have fun storming the castle!
Maybe "touch" is a euphemism...which would explain why "touch" is more severe than "kiss"?
For Ptesanwin it was simply an attempted touch, not a kiss. The point is don't touch women without their permission. In Lakota ways, men used to not even be able to speak to women who weren't related to them or obviously their wife. They would have to ask permission to court her and then courted her through playing flute and other sweet gestures.
In ancient Hawaiʻi, the "kiss" was not the touching of lips. It was the exchanging of breath between two people, which did not necessarily involve touching. A bit of cultural context required to understand.
I clearly discovered Crash Course Mythology too late. I would love the Thoth Provoking Tote Bag, but it seems they are long gone. Any chance they'll be rereleased?
Mahalo nō i kou hoʻolaha ʻana mai no ko mākou akua aloha nui ʻia ʻo Pele! Auē naʻe ka hemahema o kou puana!
Thank you for spreading this story about our beloved goddess Pele! Your pronunciation needs a bit more work, however!
Have I mentioned how much I love mythology? Keep 'em coming
Super happy to see Hawai'i given some coverage but I hope you also find time to cover the Maori myths cause they are pretty interesting too.
No party like a Pele party. ☺
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Osp?
This is so incredible I am in awe. To say how much I enjoy watching this course I can say I am doing it instead of playing Sims 4 or going to sleep hahaha
It would be really interesting to see more myths from other nations
put that on a t-shirt "goddess groping = gruesome death"
Im still waiting for the mesoamerican and southamerican episodes... >.>
I wonder if they're going to tell the myth about the pompous, greedy emperor whose ambitious court sorceress transformed him into a llama, where he learns a lesson about humility and selflessness.
LLAMA FACE!
A llama??? He's supposed to be DEAD!!
Oh right, the llama. The llama that's an emperor. The emperor chosen specially to be a llama. The emperor llama.
Mike's singing gives me life.
Zelda Wind Waker reference, best reference.
Hey, everyone. Don't forget all these episodes have already been filmed. They may do more but any suggestions would not go into effect until then.
Bird-Thoth is back. I like him better. :)
The theme song is still grating on my ears 10 years later
I like this in-depth format!
I love the Koroks at 3:14!
I appreciate the effort to avoid any possible slurs, but FYI Thathánka Oyáte (Bison/Buffalo Nation) is a term in Lakhóta that specifically refers to the bison themselves, not to the people. Collectively the bison are considered the "bison nation", deer as collectively of the "deer nation" etc, since the term for "nation" is not exclusively used for humans
I love this guy :) this is a wonderful new crash course contribution!!
You know, that Buffalo Nation myth is the best example of the "gods could have been aliens" idea I've ever heard. For so many reasons.
fav episode so far
Every new video make me love this class a little bit more!! Thanks a lot!
This is a fantastic episode. If there were a button for feeling stronger than a "like" I'd punch it. Thanks.
Great content! I wonder if CrashCourse plans to do a series on arts.
Just to correct a mistake in the subtitles : Buffalo Nation is Tatanka Oyate, not D'Danke Oh Yah De ;)
This is so amazing. More Hawaiien Myths please! 😘🌸🌴🦐🐢
I'd love to see a Tibetan/Mongolian/central Asian episode!
I love the Makar cameo!
I realy love stories about the Goddesses. they are so wise and peaceful.
Please cover the Celtic Pantheon :D
The inclusion of Koroks from The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker is cute and amusing. Kudos.
Love the reference to the Koroks from Legend of Zelda ^.^
It took me a moment to realize you were saying lehua because you were pronouncing it wrong. It's pronounce lëhuä (or ley-hoo-ah which is the best way I can type this out.)
And as some commenters have said Pele is pronounced with a short-mid /e/ so it would be something like Pe̞le̞ (Phehleyh - Aspirated /p/ and a reminder that the /e̞/ is short.)
If you don't know how the vowels sound you can look them up on the IPA Vowel Chart. There are several sites that contain audio versions so that you can hear what the vowels sound like. Hawaiian is phonetically similar to Japanese so if you have background in Japanese just pronounce Hawaiian words like you would Japanese words.
I highly encourage learning how to pronounce words of the things you are going to be talking about. There are many sources that are ready to help!
Ronald Chasen I was sooo mad when he said it wrong
Thanks for this series man, it,s very enjoyable. I'm looking forward to my home countrys myth, persian myth 👍
you guys need to update the mythology playlist, it's missing several videos :)
Grateful to hear our legends of the great Pacific being told on platforms foreign to our own. Yet, the pronunciation needs some work and imagery and focus weren’t true to the tale.
Hōpoe was a spirit, but the idea of spirits and beings in island mythology aren’t of these strange creatures. Hōpoe was human looking, not this leafy little dude.
Hōpoe was the being that taught (Hi’iakaikapoliopele) Hi’iaka the ancient art of hula.
Because Hi’iaka went through many unforeseen obstacles and trials (like reviving Lohi’au’ipo), Pele thought her absence was evidence of betrayal. In her waiting, her jealousy and distrust grew, and her lava ate the land. Taking the lehua groves and consuming Hōpoe, turning her to stone.
Hi’iaka would continue to hula in honor of Hōpoe.
The legend is a lesson in trust. A legend of patience and understanding. To understand the connections of siblings etc.
Do a video about Polynesian mythology next like the stories of Maui.
i am so happy this exists!
Wow, Mike, what a great guy, really engaging.
Great video,amazing goddesses
Anybody else think the tree spirit at 1:57 looks like a Korok from the Zelda universe?
In the West African Yoruba pantheon, there is also Oya (AKA Iansa) who is one of the "hot Gods, ) associated with hurricanes. She is also associated with the African Buffalo. In one myth, she tells her husband never to look in the closet. Of course, he does and finds a buffalo skin, so she kills him. Oya has two lovers who are always fighting over her. One, Shango, is the god of lightning, drums and dancing. The other, Ogun, is the God of blacksmithing, iron, and war. It seems that there is a global connection between hot, fiery goddesses and buffalo.
You uh, have a drunk editing team there bud? Seems like Thoth was there just a few seconds to late :)
noticed that lol
Beutiful pronunciation of the hawaiian words bro. Only one snipit from me, the word lehua is pronounced (lay~hoo~ah). Other then that it was perfect.
I hope you do the Hopi kachina cycles
The pipe holds us all together 👏👊
This has been one of my favorites :-)
Great series! :)
If there is two words to describe Pele, the all-powerful lava goddess of Hawaii, it would be these:
Fiery Temper
Awesome Show Videos.
3:31 -- "Well, mostly dead."
What, no Princess Bride reference? You should NEVER pass up the opportunity to make a Princess Bride reference. Pelé doesn't like it! (The footballer, I mean, not the goddess. She's never even seen Princess Bride.)
OK, lemme do it for ya': "Well, it just so happens that your friend here is only mostly dead."
There you go. You're welcome.
8:00 you said the story happened so long ago it was before horses, but horses were brought to the Americas by Europeans a little over 500 years ago so it doesn't give me much indication of how old the story actually is. Unless you're saying the story is only 500 years old
The prehistoric horses in the Americas weren't domesticated or ridden. The video implied that the guy had to walk because it was before horses, but rideable horses weren't around until the Europeans introduced them
Not the pre-columbian horses. There is no indication they were used as beasts of burden, and they went extinct 8000 to 12000 years ago.
Most myths have a very vague placement in time. Like, nobody alive today was alive when the myths were taking place, but mythic figures always seem to have culture and technology much more similar to that of the storytellers than that of their ancestors. So, to give a conservative estimate, White Buffalo Woman probably gave people the pipe at some point before last Thursday. Yes, it was definitely before then.
Australians have come up with the term "dream-time" to describe that unclear temporal location, and I absolutely adore it. It's so widely applicable.
Funny enough it was the indians who might have extinguish the neolitic horses.
OK Dirt Rider In short - yes. This story, you have to remember, survived mostly as part of an oral tradition, being told and re-told by one generation to the next. As such, details tend to fluctuate or just outright get lost. Honestly, the fact that we even know it took place before horses arrived is a lot more than with most other old stories and myths.
Ayyyyy I like that sly jab about the Paris Climate Accord at 6:51
Brianna Beecher when exactly the hot under the collar thing?
nicholas dalli 6:52
Thnks
I love your channel.
Wait...are the tree spirits at 3:15 Koraks from LoZ?
I love this series!!!! I found it by accident :D
10:24 Cooking mama reference! Not expecting that in Mythology.....may make the game more interesting in this context.
such drama, I LOVE IT!!
This is a very minor thing, but kind of surprising from Crash Course: There are at least two blatant punctuation errors. One boo-boo is at 9:45 -- a comma is missing between "the trees" and "the grasses." Then, at 10:18, there is a renegade double quotation mark (") after the appropriate single quotation mark at the end of "You are from Mother Earth."
Sometimes I feel like the princess in the Princess and the Pea.
you should discuss how geography affects mythology. for instance: the predictable Nile lead to benevolent gods, and the tiberus and eufrates flooded irregularly and often distroyed villages and the gods were angry and vengeful.
coming from a place of love I love your show
1:56 NICE ZELDA REFERENCE!! :D
Actually lohi'au and Pelehonuamea married, they also made love many times for many nights in her dream. There are other stories that are part of this epic as well. The other thing that was wrong on your telling is that the reason why Pelehonuamea burned Hi'iaka'ikapoli'opele's Grove down was because she vowed to remain chaste until Lohi'au was delivered safely back to the volcano. But Hi'iaka'ikapoli'opele strayed and had a fling with another chief, so Pelehonuamea in rage over Hi'iaka'ikapoli'opele not keeping her promise, burned everything down and transformed Hopoe into a rock. Also the reason why Pele decided to stop destroying is because Hi'iaka'ikapoli'opele's was about to destroy the foundations of Hawai'i island. The older God's intervened and calmed both sisters down. Lohi'au's 'aikane(intimate friend) is a side story.
Woopwoop being dat quick
GAHHHH I LOVE THIS VIDEO AND I AM SO GLAD I FOUND IT AND THANK YOU SO MUCH AND HECK YES I AM DORKILY VERY EXCITED RN TEHEHEHEH
I really love this series. Ever since I was a kid, I've been quite interested in mythologies. I also have to admit that I have an enormous crush on Mike Rugnetta. He's so well-spoken and funny, and he's very cute too. Consent may be sexy, but Mike is sexier.
ToutCQJM I mean you probably want both, Mike and consent.
Noah Aist oh yeah. Otherwise it's no fun.
Mike is the sexiest. Mmm :-)
Cool video!
sounds like a perfect premise for a Disney movie. sequel to Frozen....."Blazing"
pe-le with her sisters is me on monday mornings
*shrugs*
can't blame the goddess
Pele is a tsundere
Lakota Here. I thought your retelling of the Ptesáŋwiŋ was pretty good, but your pronunciations were pretty funny. FYI, I appreciate your efforts to not refer to our people as Sioux, but a better alternative might have been Očhéthi Šakówiŋ (Council of 7 fires) which is what we call the alliance between the 6 Dakota Tribes and the Lakota tribe. Americans have always called it the Great Sioux Nation. Also Nakota is the incorrect term for 2 tribes of Dakota who have a slightly different dialect (hence the name differences), but they themselves identify as Dakota and not Nakota. Nakoda is a term for a tribe in Canada that speak a language that probably has the same roots as ours but they were not part of the Očhéthi Šakówiŋ.
I've devoted a lot of time to reading and understanding our stories and legends. It's nice to see it get a thought bubble segment. Phílamayaye [I thank you]
Aw! Makar!
Please guys you need to make a Crash Course History of Religions 🙏 💚
I feel smart cuz I've read and heard these two stories before!😃
I'd TOTHally buy a Hawaiian Toth plushie if you guys made one. ; )
@3:32 sooooooo Lohiau is only MOSTLY dead? :P
Can you guys do an episode on ragnorak?
"consent is sexy" yeah except it's also mandatory or you die