Supporting Israel against Palestine & Hamas - Harris Sultan | Abbas Haidar | ViewPoint #68

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  • @AbbasHaidar
    @AbbasHaidar  9 місяців тому +19

    It is a religious war - Faisal Warraich.
    ua-cam.com/video/nVn0O0H96WI/v-deo.html

    • @MS-Hussain
      @MS-Hussain 9 місяців тому +1

      No mother has given birth to a child who can ever justify the oppression of ziiinsts on plstn and can criticise the right of plstnians to show resistance.
      Entire humanity on one side.
      Isrhell, US govt, and few islamophobes on the other.

  • @meesumnaqui7930
    @meesumnaqui7930 9 місяців тому +38

    I think Harris does have a point. The only possible solution now is to move on. Learn from Desmond Tutu, Nelson Mandela. Moving on is not easy but the only way to break the vicious cycle of violence. Now is not the time to ask the futile question, Who started the violence? the more important is how to end this violence and the only possible way is to move ahead.

    • @Islamic_Essence
      @Islamic_Essence 5 місяців тому

      They were also terrorists according to the world before success.

  • @indianatheist2023
    @indianatheist2023 8 місяців тому +16

    Harris said a beautiful point ❤❤❤ If u want peace then it is never possible with 100% justice ❤❤❤

  • @athershujeel3890
    @athershujeel3890 8 місяців тому +5

    Harris sultan the best Love from Christian community and merry Christmas Harris bhai.

  • @InNazareth
    @InNazareth 9 місяців тому +17

    Both well balanced personalities offering good conversation

  • @RakeshSharma-tz1wi
    @RakeshSharma-tz1wi 9 місяців тому +19

    Musharraf said, that even if Kashmir Issue is "resolved", the conflict with India would continue. Even in Israel-Palestine issue, the conflict will continue, no matter what. Why? The real reason is the attitude of the people of certain faith. This particular faith people seem to have issues/conflicts at multiple locations on this planet, with people of all other faiths/backgrounds . Can anybody human/rational, please conclude where the correction needs to happen? Abbas Bhai, do you know the answer? Please donot worry, i know even you have your compulsions. The continued existence of this conflict suits certain influential powers/people. So why resolve? Kashmir issues also needs to exist for the sake of the objectives and relevance of certain power(s) within Pakistan.

    • @reyeseuropeos9153
      @reyeseuropeos9153 9 місяців тому +1

      That is a secondary issue. There are disputes even within most muslim countries doesn't mean they should be denied their right to live

    • @kashurculture4632
      @kashurculture4632 8 місяців тому

      Look who is pointing finger,, 😂😂

    • @reyeseuropeos9153
      @reyeseuropeos9153 8 місяців тому +2

      @@kashurculture4632 whoever pointing has a substantial critique

    • @comparativereligiondailynews
      @comparativereligiondailynews 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@kashurculture4632
      Kashmir is India and Palestine should merge with Israel and adopt Secular Constitution.
      @ 10:18 PM @ 5 Jan 2024

    • @asr2009
      @asr2009 7 місяців тому

      go away streetshitter

  • @FaisalKhan-ri2un
    @FaisalKhan-ri2un 8 місяців тому +6

    میں نے بے یقینی کے ساتھ یہ ویڈیو دیکھنا اور سننا شروع کی کہ جانے مجھ ان باتوں سے اتفاق ہو گا کہ نہیں. مگر تمام بات سننے کے بات مجھے حارث سلطان کی باتیں ٹھیک لگیں. بہت خوب.

  • @ahmedvanya8840
    @ahmedvanya8840 9 місяців тому +25

    Haris is very logical and his points are mostly valid. However, Zionism initially was not a stupid idea! It was a DESPERATE idea by a severely persecuted people for a REFUGE, a homeland where their religion & CULTURE would be protected and where it would survive and thrive!!! Founders of Israel were not religious but secular and it was very logical for them to try to build a refuge in a land where they ALWAYS for generations harbored immense emotional attachment! Therefore, even an atheist or a bona fide Muslim could be a Zionist and sympathize with the Jews!
    The problem was the Arabs could not prevent uncontrolled immigration in their neighborhoods by the Jews.
    That is a tragedy for both the people--Jews and Arabs.
    The Arabs suffered INJUSTICES and the Jews also were victims during the struggle.
    It is time to move on!!!!
    It is true that a two state solution is the only viable long term solution.
    In order for the Israeli people to accept that, they must get iron-clad security guarantees, and destruction or at least severe minimization of religious extremists on both sides.
    Muslim-Arab governments are in the process of normalization of relations with Israel. But the Muslim masses are infatuated with the Islamists, like the Pakistanis were welcoming the Taliban when they returned to power. Islamic REFORM is the key to peace and stability of the WORLD!!!!!

  • @anarkali_217
    @anarkali_217 9 місяців тому +51

    What Haris confuses with is that Israel is called a colonial settler state. Pakistan India were created not by importing whites from Poland Russia or Ukraine. So the parallel doesn't apply. Yes Israel ppl born on the land should be able to live in Palestine/ Israel. Reversing that doesn't make sense. N those palestenians kicked out should be able to return. What Haris doesnt do is that he hardly critizes the treatment of palestenians. U can see his Twitter wall n is quite obvious

    • @Mussadi_Lal
      @Mussadi_Lal 9 місяців тому +27

      Pakistanis are more concerned about Palestinian than the fellow muslim culprit of Pakistan atrocities - Afghans born in Pakistan and East Pakistan in 1971.
      Pakistan throwing more Afghans, even whose fathers ware born in Pakistan.

    • @ketunky3056
      @ketunky3056 9 місяців тому +1

      Abe tum muslim haramzado ne Sabhi Hinduo ko bhaga diya pakistan se. Ab israel bhaga raha, tho maja aa raha hame. Harris view is correct here about israel.
      Who can live peacefully with muslims

    • @Religiondebunker
      @Religiondebunker 9 місяців тому +8

      So u mean to say nobody was killed in india pakistan partition?

    • @PakistaniMulhidUrdu
      @PakistaniMulhidUrdu 9 місяців тому

      50-60% of Israeli Jews ARE Mizrahi Jews i.e. Arab Jews expelled from other Arab states.

    • @davidhenry3553
      @davidhenry3553 9 місяців тому +20

      No, it is not that simple, they are not all European Jews there are many Jews thrown out of arabs lands, when the Palestinians left Jews were also expelled from arab countries, you are all for Palestinians to return to their land but what about all the Jews living in arab lands, where they were living even before Islam. So your argument would have weight on the day arab start giving equal rights to Jews and the right to return to their lands then you can ask for Palestinians to return to their land.

  • @kotamrajuprasad2742
    @kotamrajuprasad2742 9 місяців тому +5

    😂😂Jehadi wants to know about war crimes.. Funny.. Because Hamas is not an army and are dressed as civilians and disguise themselves as civilians.. They had enough time should have come out of Gaza and should have fought like any army. The mindset of Pakistanis cannot change..

    • @Islamic_Essence
      @Islamic_Essence 5 місяців тому

      Then allow palestine to have an army first. Hamas has to be like that. You will see the whole world crying on this issue like they do for native americans, south africa and black slavery.

    • @kotamrajuprasad2742
      @kotamrajuprasad2742 5 місяців тому

      @@Islamic_Essence
      World is with Palestine, but not with terrorists..The thing is your religion does not teach atleast what is right or wrong.Allah has no common sense..Whatever you talk is with a 6 th century mindset..millions of Muslims live in west..that too sucessfully,they will never go back to any Islamic country..World has advanced,anybody can live anywhere. Except middle east where they don't give citizenship..

    • @kotamrajuprasad2742
      @kotamrajuprasad2742 5 місяців тому

      @@Islamic_Essence
      Like what.. Rats in holes.. indiscriminately firing. Atleast get them educated first. Instead of building tunnels, build factories, set up trades,build colleges and hospitals as any normal country. 6th century concepts no longer valid. Only countries with education and technology prosper.Kind of God is irrelevant today. Constitution and laws and order are enough..

  • @mollyv4908
    @mollyv4908 9 місяців тому +13

    Harris deserves accolades for clarity of arguments. And thanks to Abbas for being unbiased

  • @aizazahmad8138
    @aizazahmad8138 9 місяців тому +29

    Lo g.. Cancer Raja ko new content mil gaya.. next 3 videos wo es podcast sy bana leyga 😂😂😂

    • @umroyaar
      @umroyaar 9 місяців тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @Rockstar52742
      @Rockstar52742 9 місяців тому +2

      Harris mossad agent hay😅 .

  • @techninfo421
    @techninfo421 9 місяців тому +32

    Harris speaks truth

    • @Islamic_Essence
      @Islamic_Essence 5 місяців тому

      You should listen to an expert on the issue rather than an anti islamist.

    • @linova341
      @linova341 7 днів тому

      ​@@Islamic_Essence😂 is channel ke sabhi followers atheist hain aur ismlamophobic kya hi expect kar sakte hain

  • @harshitsakariya1240
    @harshitsakariya1240 9 місяців тому +6

    Sir. Harris sultan 😎 ji 👍👍👍👍
    Aapki. Baate sunna 👂👂🎧🎧. Every time. New. Knowledge. Deta. Hai 🤗🤗
    (. Aur. Aapka. Argument. Every time. Right 👍👍 hi. Hota. Hai 🤗🤗
    Mai. Aapko. Thousand times. Salute 👋👋👋👋👋👋. Karta hu ji 👍🤗🤗
    Aur. Aapka. Baate. Karne. Me. Jo. (. सच्च्चाई। ). Hoti. Hai
    Woh. Aapke. (. Face. ). Par. Aati. Hai 🤗👋👋
    I hopefully 🤞 ki. Aap. Aise. Hi. Chalte. Rahege ji 👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @sandeshbhilare7901
    @sandeshbhilare7901 9 місяців тому +26

    salute Harris sir, I am Hindu of India and I am fan of Harris sir. He is one of those who will free Pakistan from their mean thinking.

    • @syrajatt6141
      @syrajatt6141 9 місяців тому

      Lol who's spread lies of covering of women graves in Pakistan to prevent rapes but in reality it belonged to India. The man who's whole personality depends on lies will free us lmao. I know why are you supporting him 😂

    • @pradhyudh
      @pradhyudh 9 місяців тому +1

      Atheist ho?

    • @Dan-vs9tu
      @Dan-vs9tu 9 місяців тому

      Who will free you from Hindu nationalism though….

    • @ahmadnoughty
      @ahmadnoughty 8 місяців тому

      Atheist ho

    • @linova341
      @linova341 7 днів тому +1

      Gobar bakht thinking se aap ko kon azaad kryega

  • @humanist5245
    @humanist5245 9 місяців тому +4

    "یہودیوں کو زندہ رہنے کا حق ہے" اسکا منکر کون ہے ؟؟ ظلم قتل و غارت غصب کا حق کس نے دے دیا

    • @umroyaar
      @umroyaar 9 місяців тому +2

      Collateral damage me civilians bhi mrte hen unfortunately

    • @umroyaar
      @umroyaar 9 місяців тому +1

      Zulm kia saudi 🇸🇦 ne yemen 🇾🇪 me nai kia ?
      Kitne bache maare gye ?
      Kia pakistan 🇵🇰 ne bangalion k saath 1971 me aur even k Palestinians k saath operation Black September me nai kia ?
      Kia china 🇨🇳 ne uighur Muslims k saath ? Turkey 🇹🇷 ne kurd Muslims k saath ?
      Azerbaijan sur Armenia ki jang ? Tibet pe china 🇨🇳 ka qabza ? Kabhi ap logon ne in pe baat ki? Kabhi ap k molvion ne masjid me in pe baat ki? Kabhi islamiat me ya pakistan studies me kabhi prha ?

    • @humanist5245
      @humanist5245 9 місяців тому

      @@umroyaar
      75 سال سے فلسطینی بدترین مظالم کا شکار ہیں ۔ انکی 80% زمین غاصب یہودیوں نے قبضہ کرلی ۔ ایسا ظلم کہاں ہورہا ہے دنیا میں ؟؟
      دیگر ممالک میں جزئ مظالم کی بنیاد پر اسرائیل کے مظالم کو درست کیسے قرار دیاجاسکتا ہے ؟؟

  • @IAzizIAziz
    @IAzizIAziz 9 місяців тому +19

    A useful dialogue, with valid arguments from both sides.
    This dispute is highly complex with layers of political and religious perspectives, hence to try and over simplify it by making it one or the other is pointless.
    Palestinians are in a terrible position, no doubt, but violence/resistance will never achieve them anything. Their only option is to surrender and accept Israel and live under their rule as peaceful obliging citizens, and try to educate their children and compete intellectually, not militarily!

    • @reyeseuropeos9153
      @reyeseuropeos9153 9 місяців тому +1

      Not "under them" rather accepting them moving on and asking the world for a state in tha part that could be talked over. They should get a free state just like jews got it for they thought they want to.

    • @comparativereligiondailynews
      @comparativereligiondailynews 8 місяців тому

      ​@@reyeseuropeos9153
      Why free state ?
      Why can't they merge with Israel and demand a United Secular Country. Mai bhi Musalmaan hu but actually Muslims are themselves responsible for Palestine misery.
      @ 5 Jan 2024 @ 10:20 PM

    • @reyeseuropeos9153
      @reyeseuropeos9153 8 місяців тому

      @@comparativereligiondailynews israel is the one that doesn't want a united state. Palestine has time again and again asked to merge into a single secular state but we know that then the muslims would be a majority and would dominate the politics and vote bank which would probably render it a not so secular state once again which is why jews/israel other people who don't agree with the others don't want a united state

  • @kotamrajuprasad2742
    @kotamrajuprasad2742 9 місяців тому +8

    Exactly the Indian stand..The number of deaths is not the metrics to gauge an issue. Had it not been for the Iron dome, many Israelis would have been killed.. While Israel is ready to ceasefire after the hostages are freed, the Hamas stand is the same since earlier and on 7 th Oct till now..

    • @Enigma_Aadil
      @Enigma_Aadil 8 місяців тому

      No it is not the case..

    • @kotamrajuprasad2742
      @kotamrajuprasad2742 8 місяців тому

      @@Enigma_Aadil
      Then what.. We are not idiots. What is the slogan river to the sea then..

  • @Heterodox01
    @Heterodox01 8 місяців тому +4

    Clearly this dude hasn't even read a single book on Israel-Palestine history nor has he properly looked at the survey he is quoting. Yes only 33% of Palestinians favour a two-state solution, because the remaining 67% favour a one-state solution run by the Palestinians! They do not want to live under an Israeli state rather a Palestinian one! Within that, 55% support an armed resistance for the Palestinians. I would say that the host also is unread and completely unable to assert himself or fact-check the ill-informed guest.

    • @Wolf_D._Furyy
      @Wolf_D._Furyy 5 місяців тому

      Okay I've read everything i still accept what Guest is saying as a refree, what's your argument now?

  • @KashifAli-qv1xo
    @KashifAli-qv1xo 9 місяців тому +30

    Pakistanis never think that deep Harris bhai..😂 11:50

  • @user-um6jd8mq1p
    @user-um6jd8mq1p 9 місяців тому +6

    Harris got good points

  • @Nasir-Ayub
    @Nasir-Ayub 9 місяців тому +6

    Mohd Hijab is Egyptian born. And Egypt was the first country to accept Israel as a state, merely to get their land back lol

    • @waseemahamad5209
      @waseemahamad5209 Місяць тому

      Isreal ko accept Egypt ki Government ne kiya tha Mohd Hijab ne nhi

  • @krazzy4u
    @krazzy4u 9 місяців тому +4

    Except for Religion, Harris Sultans Political Views are biased and naive.

  • @Nisarttm18
    @Nisarttm18 День тому

    You are more polished lately. Keep it up. Good job.

  • @KashifAli-qv1xo
    @KashifAli-qv1xo 9 місяців тому +4

    35:05 If all other religions can exist and have their holy places then why not Jerusalem for Jews??😱 35:05

    • @AmicableAgnostic
      @AmicableAgnostic 9 місяців тому

      Muslims never allow others to have thier holy sites. Did they allow it in Ayodhya for Hindus? That too just over a masjid built by a King. They are not allowing Jews. Thankfully they don't have masjid in other religion places like Buddhist, Jain. Otherwise they will fight with them as well.

    • @Islamic_Essence
      @Islamic_Essence 5 місяців тому +1

      You can't just come and occupy land like my culture started from Ethiopia now that's mine. Jerusalem should be an international it's not only a jews city. While jews living a better life with Arabs than they had in the West. Today israel may have a right to exist but that doesn't mean they have a right to oppress. If they want their rights they have to accept others rights first.

  • @jiqbalg
    @jiqbalg 8 місяців тому +5

    Harris Bhai is a great rational and free thinker. I hold his views in high regards. He is a bold social and religious analyst. Abbas Haider is a very sweet and intelligent interviewer. Keep it up such types of enlightening talks. Thank you.

  • @user-hg4ng9nj1p
    @user-hg4ng9nj1p 9 місяців тому +15

    Harris present great argument. How to bring peace in this conflict situation ?
    Thank you! Abbas, conducted this interview so peoples can see both side.

  • @unknown5182
    @unknown5182 8 місяців тому +2

    More good points from Harris than I expected i have to admit. But one critical predisposition of Harris I noticed: he shows willingness to judge Israeli policies by what they say and conveniently choses to judge israel by their peoples visible secular sentiments (instead of their vile words against Palestinians) when it is convenient for his narrative. Read that again. Not to mention 5here seems to be an anti-Islamic undertone to his arguements. At least to me one thing is clear. I can see that he's talented in rationalising his arguments by carefully chosing words. Very well masked bias

  • @shahzadqurashi7728
    @shahzadqurashi7728 8 місяців тому +2

    Hats off to abbas haider , god bless

  • @syrajatt6141
    @syrajatt6141 9 місяців тому +2

    So you invited a ex Muslim who has spread lies before and got caught too. Shame on you for inviting him for debate in a first place.

  • @nsdhillon9937
    @nsdhillon9937 2 місяці тому

    Harris sahib or Abbas sahib tuhanu 🎉 from Punjab India 🇮🇳

  • @bhas831
    @bhas831 9 місяців тому +13

    Haris has strong arguments..👍

  • @aadil4787
    @aadil4787 8 місяців тому +2

    Why so much respect for a murtad. Some people just doesn't deserve respect. I think even if someone is a journalist he should have his red lines.

    • @comparativereligiondailynews
      @comparativereligiondailynews 8 місяців тому +2

      Shut the f up.
      Respect every human. That's why I call myself Humanist Muslim.
      Religious belief is a personal matter.
      Haris Sultan wants to be non Muslim. Let him be.
      I listen his videos because he exposes hypocrisy of Radical Muslims like you.

    • @logicaleddic4804
      @logicaleddic4804 8 місяців тому

      This is the reason why people like you are getting expelled from Europe

  • @afzal.nihang
    @afzal.nihang 8 місяців тому +1

    I'm very new to listen to you guys, haris clear about his direction, but my question to Abbas ,which mindset you have?

    • @SmokeMamba-pi5xk
      @SmokeMamba-pi5xk 8 місяців тому

      Bro,Can u please give me a short summary of this video. What did abbas say or with which side he stands. Actually I'm travelling in a train and my network isn't working, I can't watch the video properly

  • @Pakistaniboysgaming
    @Pakistaniboysgaming 9 місяців тому +16

    Abbas Bhai its amazing. Allah taala aap ka effort kamyaab kare.

    • @reyeseuropeos9153
      @reyeseuropeos9153 9 місяців тому +3

      ​@@exmuslimsahil1is chabi ko aap hanuman aur jesus ki g me dede jaise alla ke dete hai👍🏻

    • @reyeseuropeos9153
      @reyeseuropeos9153 9 місяців тому

      @@exmuslimsahil1 jesus seedha hai wow. Same hindus would complaint about the rice bags. Also I would like you to talk about jesus from the old testament

    • @PHALANGE1931
      @PHALANGE1931 9 місяців тому

      ​@@exmuslimsahil1ur first comment 😂😂

    • @reyeseuropeos9153
      @reyeseuropeos9153 9 місяців тому

      @@exmuslimsahil1 okay and Buddhists are better than womanisers like krishna and rice bags? So

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      @jeevabalegar4954 8 місяців тому

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  • @Moodus55
    @Moodus55 8 місяців тому +1

    What Harris Sultan public phone contact. I have some questions for him?

  • @humanist5245
    @humanist5245 9 місяців тому +2

    20% Zamin Agar Jews ne kharidi ha
    "i dont know kharidi ha Ya nhi"
    agar Kharidi hai To uspe mulk bana le
    but 80% Zamin ki Azadi Tak "Jihad" hoga

    • @sarvathavicharsheel7487
      @sarvathavicharsheel7487 8 місяців тому +1

      Initially utna hi liya tha, fir attack kiya Israel par, tab Israel ne aur area le liya, then fir attack fir aur land le liya
      This is how they got majority land

  • @unknown5182
    @unknown5182 8 місяців тому +1

    I have to commend abbas for showing how to disagree with utmost repsect and manners. I pray this quality becomes common in Pakistan

  • @q-epoch1837
    @q-epoch1837 8 місяців тому

    He has a valid point, if you are calling yourself martial race then don’t cry. Hypocrisy

  • @HaqsuchkiAwazZahid
    @HaqsuchkiAwazZahid 8 місяців тому +2

    Both should recognize each other

  • @umayr2935
    @umayr2935 9 місяців тому +2

    18:00 'Also the political solution he is talking about like Nelson Mandela, Israel didn't support it, the PLO and PNA were closer to it, instead Israel funded Hamas who didn't believe in a political solution in the first place'

    • @PakistaniMulhidUrdu
      @PakistaniMulhidUrdu 9 місяців тому

      Yes, let's entertain the conspiracy theory that Israel funds Hamas. Essentially, are you suggesting that Hamas is Israel? If so, why do the majority of Muslims around the world support Hamas?

    • @umroyaar
      @umroyaar 9 місяців тому

      But now the situation is different ... at that time, israel 🇮🇱 supported hammas to crush plo s political power inside Palestine 🇵🇸

    • @umayr2935
      @umayr2935 9 місяців тому

      @@umroyaar 'So how is it the Palestinian people's fault then? If you accepted that it was Israel who crushed the PLO, so its their fault'

    • @umroyaar
      @umroyaar 9 місяців тому

      @umayr2935 yes, israel 🇮🇱 koi doodh se thori dhula he ..hammas ko israel ne aik strategic benefit k liye use kia jis tarah America 🇺🇸 ne osama bin laden ko pakistan 🇵🇰 ne taliban ko aur India 🇮🇳 ne sikhon k bhindrawale ko ... likin output khatarnak hi nikalti he

  • @maxpayne8953
    @maxpayne8953 9 місяців тому +3

    Haris is forgeetting that they had nelson mandela type people like Yasir Arafat who walked towards a 2 . state solution . but the terms of those pacts were so anti palestine that arafat couldnt accept it . same is the case with current administration of west bank where settlers can incite violence whenever they want . Israel is not being an honest actor here

    • @PakistaniMulhidUrdu
      @PakistaniMulhidUrdu 9 місяців тому +6

      Yasir Arafat was FAR from being Nelson Mandela. He never accepted the two-state solution. In the 90s, nearly 70% of the Israelis were in favour of a two-state solution. The West Bank settlers are only 2% of the West Bank and they CAN be expelled once there is a will to work out a solution.

    • @reyeseuropeos9153
      @reyeseuropeos9153 9 місяців тому +4

      Imagine saying Arafat was Mandela. This just shows that you basically don't know Arafat but you have this notion that just because he was more softer than the Hamas so he was the Mandela. He was never in the favour of Israel's right to exist. He always said that Palestine and Israel's should be one country

    • @umroyaar
      @umroyaar 9 місяців тому +1

      No, yaser arafat has accepted 2 state solutions in Oslo accord. Therefore, Palestine has observer status in United Nations like Vatican City ... therefore, israel 🇮🇱 has allowed Palestine as a free state on some extent having its president, Mehmood Abbas, and embassies in Muslims countries like the Palestine embassy in Islamabad. And accepting 2 state as solution was also difficult for israel too as yitzghak Rabin the Israeli prime minister (who signed Oslo accord with yaser arafat ) was killed by a Jewish religious extremist.

    • @reyeseuropeos9153
      @reyeseuropeos9153 9 місяців тому

      @@umroyaar oslo accords wasn't a two state agreement. It just made Plo, the organisation give recognisation to israel and vice versa and broadened the bilateral talks toward peace and possible two state solution and creation of PNA however then Rabin was killed as Arafat backed up and officially said there shouldn't be an israel but just Palestine and israel should be part of it. Oslo accords didn't have an official two state solution and none officials ever signed one.

    • @maxpayne8953
      @maxpayne8953 9 місяців тому

      @@umroyaar yeah that Palestinian state in which every day settlers harass and threaten the Palestinians, and in which Natenyahu's ministers constantly talk about creating settlements, or the one in which Israeli army regularly goes and destroys the civilian infrastructure.. come on ! There is no Palestinian state. Its a joke

  • @raviagarwal3924
    @raviagarwal3924 8 місяців тому +2

    Mera logic ye hai ki mujhe as a hindu or atheist will be given rights in Israel not Palestine which is why I will have to support Israel not matter what

  • @DesiBuzz70
    @DesiBuzz70 9 місяців тому +5

    Haris has strong point👍

  • @user-jr1id1ro9b
    @user-jr1id1ro9b 9 місяців тому +1

    Harris is saying that Palestine will find politicial solutions not by war but what he said when isreal caputer many Palestine who simple protest for their home without any weapon is this your political solutions so called educated people

  • @TArif-iv1sz
    @TArif-iv1sz 19 днів тому +1

    جو خالق کی پہچان کھو گیا
    اس کی کیا چیز ویلڈ ھو سکتی ھے؟
    ؟؟؟؟؟؟

  • @0xsajjad
    @0xsajjad 4 місяці тому

    You're tilted towards Israel that's very clear.
    You probably forgot to mention, Hamas accepts two states solution while Israel doesn't. Which is the core of conflict at the moment and its sole responsibility is on Israel.

  • @Mussadi_Lal
    @Mussadi_Lal 9 місяців тому +1

    Only 15 thousands. Pakistan army used to collect this many Afghans in few months during peak time of Afghans war.
    And will easily collect from FATA in next one year.

  • @sahmed6527
    @sahmed6527 9 місяців тому +9

    I'm happy to attend your show and debate him. I'm a lawyer, and he lacks understanding about genocide, ethnic cleansing, and international law. He calls himself an atheist but seems to have anti-Islamic views. Has he ever been to Palestine or Israel? Does he know about Israel government policies? Palestinian’s likely have a broader mindset than him. He seems to see all Muslims as extremists and doesn't understand their perspective. He repeatedly emphasizes the need for a two-state solution, but he lacks correct facts on current affairs and war. I'm disappointed that you gave him a platform to spread unverified knowledge without citing sources. I'm sorry, but I'm unsubscribing. Also, most of my atheist friend agree that his mindset is anti-Islamic rather than atheist. Perhaps he needs education on being a true atheist because he seems extremely confused

    • @bhupindersinghkanwar5681
      @bhupindersinghkanwar5681 3 місяці тому

      Dear advocate
      Nothing succeeds than success
      Jew have right to live in Israel they were arabic Jew under English rule they have right to live in theirs own cultural immotional land associated with culture historical spiritual connection
      Islam dnt give them freedom dignity and participation under theirs rule
      They lived in getto all over world including Muslim .
      Secondly Palestine is not only Israel
      It is all area. Including Israel jorden Syria lebnon
      Why they fighting for Israel occupied
      1947uno given judgement
      Why they refused to accept
      No doubt Israel have right to exist protect and exert theirs law .
      Phelstine best solution now is accept isreal
      And adopt two state formulas as plo
      Mahmud faction following
      Violence is not solution
      Consequences are before you
      uAE Saudi supporting isreal
      Only Iran supporting Hamas hazbulla ..
      As defeating Guerilla .
      Adding new world order for globalist
      Conflict is theirs food to servive
      Islam cannot win against satanic verses political fake fighting Islam ideology
      Better to accept isreal theirs existence and collaborate unlike plo for political solution than wiping out Jews from Israel
      More over Pakistani have not right to support isreal
      They already got Hindu land as Islamic republic
      Given by Hindu as peace solution .because Muslim dnt wantto live with under Hindu .
      Similiar argument with Jews

  • @AR-yk1kv
    @AR-yk1kv 9 місяців тому +9

    Harries absolutely right

  • @Mulhid_Al_Islam
    @Mulhid_Al_Islam 9 місяців тому +12

    Excellent job Harris Sultan 👍👍👍

  • @gigachad_6862
    @gigachad_6862 9 місяців тому +4

    Good discussion

  • @chemistrynine7256
    @chemistrynine7256 8 місяців тому

    People who made Pakistan are local people. Jinnah, Liaquat etc are not from Europe. But zionists were migrated from Europe. Poor logic by Haris.

  • @EXXRAVV
    @EXXRAVV 2 місяці тому

    Best of harris bhai❤❤ very informative❤❤

  • @ErHajiHussain
    @ErHajiHussain 8 місяців тому

    Two flags were raised from the beginning
    One white and the other black
    It was then when Qabeel martyred Habeel
    When Moses confronted Pharao
    When Hussain confronted Yazeed And it will go to the last days
    Israel will never accept two state solution.Natan Yahoo appeared in UN holding the flag of Greater Israel.
    Yes this war will go untill persons like Haris(who talks without a logic) is erased from the surface of the earth.
    All religions believe that a saviour shall come.

  • @ganeshuniyal7367
    @ganeshuniyal7367 7 місяців тому

    What are Abbas's views on genocide of Kashmiri pandits?

  • @rudra22
    @rudra22 9 місяців тому +7

    जो मेरा है वो मेरा है और जो तू तेरा समझ रहा है वो भी मेराही है --अब्दुल

  • @anarkali_217
    @anarkali_217 9 місяців тому +1

    Harris is so hypocritical when did israel backed by US ever have anything to Palestinians without them fighting for it. Everytime when they fought they got something in return. Why did the oslo accords took place. When did israel ever have anything peacefully to Palestinianes in gaza or west bank. Give me some examples.

    • @kotamrajuprasad2742
      @kotamrajuprasad2742 5 місяців тому

      😄Did you give any rights to minorities in middle east or Pakistan....How many non muslims get citizenship every year...Nobody is a fool here..

  • @cricketlaunch2405
    @cricketlaunch2405 7 місяців тому +2

    Yar Abbas tm Islam ky baray bakwas sun kaisay layty ho Zara bhi sharam nhi ati

  • @AnasJavaidOfficial
    @AnasJavaidOfficial 8 місяців тому

    Nelson Mandela said himself if all doors towards peace are closed and there's no progress then choose the way of violence to move forward

  • @kashifdaniel7274
    @kashifdaniel7274 9 місяців тому +12

    Great talk show and great questions and answers and great explained sir Haris ..😊

  • @Savageguy519
    @Savageguy519 13 днів тому

    Progressive discussion ❤

  • @Islamic_Essence
    @Islamic_Essence 5 місяців тому +1

    Harris has the lowest sense from all of the guest you have on this channel till this date.

  • @sumitsuri256
    @sumitsuri256 8 місяців тому

    one basic question why its only Muslims have issues globally

  • @ashutosht8100
    @ashutosht8100 8 місяців тому +3

    This issue is so critical that when we hear Harris we think that this is truth but when we hear Tha Pakistan Experience & Galib Kamal we feel that they are true..... Really difficult 😬😬😬

    • @SmokeMamba-pi5xk
      @SmokeMamba-pi5xk 8 місяців тому

      Harris is speaking only on facts from one side

    • @samarmascarenhas
      @samarmascarenhas 8 місяців тому +1

      Because you haven't Spent thousands of hours Studying Archeology, Genealogy and Ancient historicity.

  • @BharatiyaVaasi
    @BharatiyaVaasi 9 місяців тому +4

    Salute to Mr Harris! A phenomenal talk. Truth always hurts and is insensitive.

    • @Dan-vs9tu
      @Dan-vs9tu 9 місяців тому +1

      Yes like when Modi committed ethnic cleansing against Muslims in gujrat. I know you won’t like hearing that, but it’s true🤷🏽.

    • @PHALANGE1931
      @PHALANGE1931 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Dan-vs9tu No i like hearing that, what do u have to say about that now 🤣🤣

    • @SmokeMamba-pi5xk
      @SmokeMamba-pi5xk 8 місяців тому

      Says an indian 😂

    • @Dan-vs9tu
      @Dan-vs9tu 8 місяців тому

      @@PHALANGE1931 that your a genocidal maniac 🤷🏽

    • @veer7458
      @veer7458 8 місяців тому

      ​@@Dan-vs9tuyahi situation gujrat may thi jaise hamas ne pahle hamla karke Israeli mare....usi tarah gujrat k mullo 59 hinduo.. jinme jyadatar bacche budhe or mahilaye thi ..ko train k dibbe me petrol dalke jinda jala diya ...phir hinduo ne jawab diya mullo ko.....socho yahi harkat ager pakistan me kisi area k hindu kar dete to tum sare mulle milke sabko mar dalte ...dange kahi bhi ho galat he lekin apni gireban me bhi jhakana chahiye

  • @pascalwager4544
    @pascalwager4544 9 місяців тому +1

    Now that Abbas Haider is involved in an engaging conversation that he is speaking in a more natural manner using English words occasionally as normally a lot of Pakistanis do. Even though I appreciate his efforts in trying to avoid pink Urdu, I think, in doing do his speech comes off clunky and unnatural. I have also seen his use incorrect words at times due to lack of understanding the meaning or nuances of those words.

  • @Umerrr__1
    @Umerrr__1 8 місяців тому +1

    Please read a book
    Gaza An Inquest into its martyrdom by Norman Finkelstein and On Palestine by Noam Chomsky-The Real Intellectuals
    It will answer the rubbish haris has spoken for hours

    • @suhelmallick
      @suhelmallick 8 місяців тому

      finklestein refused to debate destiny and benny morris

    • @Umerrr__1
      @Umerrr__1 8 місяців тому

      @@suhelmallick where? Proof?

    • @suhelmallick
      @suhelmallick 8 місяців тому

      on twitter, Finklestein didn't respond after several requests@@Umerrr__1

  • @chemistrynine7256
    @chemistrynine7256 8 місяців тому

    Even Israel current prime minister don’t accept two state solution. Jews and Muslim lived together in Spain from hundreds years. But it is land of Palestinian.

  • @MS-Hussain
    @MS-Hussain 9 місяців тому +1

    Does this Shai.taan know more and better than entire world who is supporting plstn??
    Shaitaan is fringe and his opinion is extreme, so ignored.

    • @sarvathavicharsheel7487
      @sarvathavicharsheel7487 8 місяців тому

      No one is supporting one state solution in favour Palestine except Muslim countries

  • @Liam-yo5ex
    @Liam-yo5ex 9 місяців тому +2

    Harris and Abbas both are genuine right minded people , these people bring all facts on table

  • @kavenmughal4996
    @kavenmughal4996 7 місяців тому

    Peace

  • @sufyaneshum7721
    @sufyaneshum7721 8 місяців тому

    It is impossible that a person who changed his religion from Islam to Atheist can make good Analysis.

  • @dharmeshparikh7837
    @dharmeshparikh7837 9 місяців тому +5

    Interesting discussion, Harris.

  • @aksharmaboi
    @aksharmaboi 8 місяців тому +1

    True speaking harris

  • @rahematullakaladagi1183
    @rahematullakaladagi1183 9 місяців тому +1

    15:01 in 1948 750000 PALESTINian are expelled from their home land ...

    • @MuhammadIrfan-yc9py
      @MuhammadIrfan-yc9py 9 місяців тому

      Just like hindus and sikhs from Pakistan. Just like the jews from all the Arab countries.

    • @suhelmallick
      @suhelmallick 8 місяців тому

      after starting a war themselves wher they claimed they would wipe out all jews

  • @therealkafir
    @therealkafir 9 місяців тому +2

    Harish love you ❤

  • @NinjaThinker
    @NinjaThinker 9 місяців тому +5

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @mastanjhon5906
    @mastanjhon5906 8 місяців тому

    This is not a religious war which is this war is between devil and peace

  • @chemistrynine7256
    @chemistrynine7256 8 місяців тому

    Haris probably don’t know 3 left wing (dfpl, lfpl, abu ali Mustafa brigade) also fighting for their Palestinian land.

  • @Danishkhan-ej6mk
    @Danishkhan-ej6mk 8 місяців тому

    Modern Israel behaves like a western democracy?? where is this mroron getting his information from? Harris you have lost it this time. I understand a political agreement is the only solution to this. But all your videos and ideas do not confirm that you are propogating this idea. You are blind with hate just accept that and move on.

  • @snehasara2562
    @snehasara2562 6 місяців тому

    Sir kya gaza ek state ki tarah nahi rah sakte Israel k under jaise Kashmir as a state hai country India k sath...kafi tarakki bhi kiya h Kashmir ne... Ache se bhi rahe wahan... Terrorism bhi kam hua hai wahan... Kya nahi ho sakta

  • @salmanhamza4202
    @salmanhamza4202 9 місяців тому +6

    banda atheist hu aur bewaqoof na hu ye hu nhi sakta

    • @anilkumar-dn6rq
      @anilkumar-dn6rq 9 місяців тому +1

      Banda musalman ho aur jaahil na ho ye nahi ho sakta. Kuchh to reason hai Jo ki pure duniya me joote hi kha rahe hain. Khud ke koum ki laure Lage hain lekin dusre ke maame Bane ghum rahe hain

    • @ExMuslim_Rehan_khan7770
      @ExMuslim_Rehan_khan7770 9 місяців тому +9

      Banda musalman ho aur atankwadi na ho ye ho hi ni sakta 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @salmanhamza4202
      @salmanhamza4202 9 місяців тому +1

      @@ExMuslim_Rehan_khan7770 atankwadi word is so funny 🤣 . Tum kiya jano atanwad mai kiya maza hai. 🤣😂. Anyway ye word bhara funny hai.

    • @ExMuslim_Rehan_khan7770
      @ExMuslim_Rehan_khan7770 9 місяців тому

      @@salmanhamza4202 bevkuf word b so funny h ....Atankwad me maja to tb h jab tumhare pale hue tum p hi fat jate h ...kl fate the na 5 fata me 23 army ke jawan ko dila di na 72 hoor 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @anilkumar-dn6rq
      @anilkumar-dn6rq 9 місяців тому +3

      @@salmanhamza4202 aatankwad ka maza hi le rahe hain abhi ghaja Wale. Puchho jara unko kitna maza aa Raha hai. 2 din ka maza mahino ki saza

  • @gulzarahmad6383
    @gulzarahmad6383 8 місяців тому +1

    He is pure islamaphofoc

    • @physis8981
      @physis8981 8 місяців тому

      And that's good f*ck islam

  • @Moodus55
    @Moodus55 8 місяців тому

    Just curious, was Harris Sultan at one time an Ahmadi ?

  • @mominasiftfogam9837
    @mominasiftfogam9837 9 місяців тому +1

    Most Isreal is white European.

  • @AliHamza-jn6qy
    @AliHamza-jn6qy 9 місяців тому

    two state solution only on the condition that the palestinain refugees, who were evicted from their houses in 1948, should be made to return to their houses.

  • @Getpowerofholysipirt-tn5bs
    @Getpowerofholysipirt-tn5bs 9 місяців тому +6

    GOOD job Haris Sir

  • @Moodus55
    @Moodus55 8 місяців тому +1

    My compliments to Abbas Haider. The most fair and independent host. I wish him great success

  • @RazM007
    @RazM007 9 місяців тому

    Before Christians and during Christism, we recognise Jews, but not now days. Yahudi nahi hote to Christian bhi nahi hote.. all that comes before Islam... Now days Islam against Yahudies instead of Christians

    • @umroyaar
      @umroyaar 9 місяців тому

      Agr yahoodi nai hote to Christians nai hote to kia islam hoskta tha ? Zra sochiye

  • @filzahussain9366
    @filzahussain9366 9 місяців тому +1

    At the time of Indian subcontinent partition most of the population at both sides were indigenous inhabitants of the lands they were living at, while around 12-13 million people migrated to both sides. Hindus, Sikhs and Muslims around the world did not migrate/shift to then divided Pakistan and India. This inter-migration continued for few years.
    It is a different scenario as compared to jews migration from all around the world to a land which was at that time a British controlled area formally controlled by Ottoman empire. So claiming that Palestine was just a piece of land ruled by no one as a state/country, local people solding their lands aimlessly is a lame excuse for mass jews migration. Knowing the fact that before British rule it used to be governed by Ottoman empire so what's wrong if it was not an independent country. it is not a good justification to handover a big part of land to dispersed jews around the world just because there is so much empty land so you can live here.
    Despite the similarity that Pakistan and Israel are founded on religious basis the two nation theory for both states had different targets.

  • @tariq34567
    @tariq34567 9 місяців тому +1

    I will not be surprised if US gives natenyahu noble peace award. after seeing current US support

    • @umroyaar
      @umroyaar 9 місяців тому +3

      To ap ismail hania ko 7th October ki dehshatgardi pe bula k sitara e jurrat / nishan e haider / hilal e imtiaz do ge kia ?

    • @umroyaar
      @umroyaar 9 місяців тому

      USA 🇺🇸 Netanyaho ko prize nai de ga kyun k USA 🇺🇸 ne yahya khan ko bangalion k saath zulm krne pe bhi koi Nobel prize nai diya tha ..wese noble prize America 🇺🇸 nai deta bl k Norway 🇳🇴 deta he

    • @MuhammadIrfan-yc9py
      @MuhammadIrfan-yc9py 9 місяців тому

      You are an idiot

    • @MuhammadIrfan-yc9py
      @MuhammadIrfan-yc9py 9 місяців тому

      This is why you muslims are so stupid, America is constantly pressuring Israel to wrap the operation up.🤣😂

    • @AYUSHKUMAR-yw7hj
      @AYUSHKUMAR-yw7hj 9 місяців тому +2

      Hilale pakistan, nishan-e-haider milna chaiye Netanyahu ko.

  • @dhananjoybiswas1154
    @dhananjoybiswas1154 8 місяців тому +1

    Good job by Harris vai.....👍👍👍

  • @HaqsuchkiAwazZahid
    @HaqsuchkiAwazZahid 8 місяців тому

    In.Pakistan and afghanistan shia muslims are prosecuted.much more.i stand by.Falisteeni but not.hamas

    • @suhelmallick
      @suhelmallick 8 місяців тому

      sunnis are persecuted in iran and syria and yemen. i dont support hams sha terrorist lapdog of iran

  • @WorldwithoutReligion-j1l
    @WorldwithoutReligion-j1l 4 місяці тому

    Haris explained well

  • @RazM007
    @RazM007 9 місяців тому +7

    Great conversation. Kudos to both of you 👍

  • @bijayagarwal9842
    @bijayagarwal9842 9 місяців тому +1

    Sao baat ki ek baat jaha Islam migrate karta hai wahi problem create ho jata hai seedhi baat no bakwas

  • @salmanisrar3772
    @salmanisrar3772 8 місяців тому +1

    Highly appreciate this video, Abbas. Infinite thank you. Can you do the same by bringing Galib Kamal?

  • @benjaminbenjamin8834
    @benjaminbenjamin8834 9 місяців тому +3

    Harris is GENIUS.

  • @thearsamjaved
    @thearsamjaved 8 місяців тому +1

    Haris Sulatan to warr gya. Only for money yeh bbanda kaam kr rha ha.

    • @logicaleddic4804
      @logicaleddic4804 8 місяців тому

      Tu konsa bin paiso k lie kaam karta hai??