am i proud to be a 29 year old man yelling at a 30-something year old professional online card player through my computer screen? not one bit, but i'm not a liar and i was disappointed that kibler didn't kadgar crown.
not to mention you can only run one barista in a deck so you don't maximize it's value most of it's time when you you're going through your deck searching for it.
remember when like 70% of all decks used brann? now give him stealth and on top of doubeling battlecrys he also doubles combos the only rogue deck where i can think of right now that couldn't use it to its full potential would be deathrattle rogue but they still have combos and some battlecrys
pretty damn absurd how a 1/5 3 mana cost can carry any rogue deck in ladder, lackeys way too good and versatile, shark just makes you go insane levels of value
It's not the 1/5 that is why it's so good. Rogue is the only class that can consistently and reliably replay and get extra value from lackey cards, on top of the fact 1 mana battlecries are just powerful for combo. The mechanic is pretty much tailor-made for rogue's toolkit. I don't think it needs to be nerfed or anything, but it's not like anyone didn't see rogues benefiting the most from lackeys coming.
I feel like the cards that are pogo hopper support are also all pretty good for other stuff, and hoppers become pretty damn decent as soon as the third one played.
I think the hardest part of making pogo work is that we lost Elvish Minstral. There really isn't enough card draw. We saw this with Jade Druid also - a lot of decks later game can handle or even outpace 1 large minion each turn - it's where you manage to average more than 1 large minion per turn that it is very difficult. The one thing I would say is that I'm not sure why Brian isn't running Ziliax main if this was supposed to be a Pogo Deck.... :D
Imagine saying Khadgar is good with Toggwaggle and then saying “Crown doesn’t do much here”. Just imagine using Wondrous Wand in your mostly 1-4 cost deck that has 14 pogo hoppers in it. Crazy.
i basically run this deck without the pogo hoppers. Just spirit of the shark and lackeys is super strong and so much fun. Add in the deathrattle myras and its been getting me close to legend.
Value is far less important than tempo in the mirror, and the 4 mana 0/3 is a rough turn. You can make up for the lost tempo in a lot of other matchups because shark is insane with Lackeys, but against actual Tempo rogue there's a decent chance you just die before it matters.
Let's make a Waggle/Lackey/Shark deck, then throw in two Pogohoppers to call it a Pogo deck, then say that the Pogohoppers are the worst part of the deck. Wow, ya don't say?
I was JUUUSTTT thinking about making a deck almost exsactly like this when I went to bed last night, I was thinking of a pogo deck that could survive off the other battle-cries, and the pogo would just be an end condition or a lucky start win.
Because there were too much pressure from the opponent and there are currently a lot of bad legendaries who don't do too much just by summoning. But his own deck has better cards to help him out so playing draw 3 was better. Although I do think khadgar+crown would've been funnier.
I feel like this annoys me more because another streamer did this recently, but why use pogohopper in title and thumbnail if they're not really the focus of the video?
This game was pretty disgusting. And I say that as someone who's playing a rogue deck that does some of the same things, but never quite to that degree.
I would've been so tempted to pick the crown, so I could Khadgar into crown for 4 legendaries. Obviously, Kibler did the right thing in picking the wand, but still.... had it been me, I don't know if I could have resisted that temptation, even if I knew that it would almost certainly come at the cost of losing that game.
You should have chosen the crown +Khadgar could be somehow leathal or maybe i dont know 4 LEGENDARYS .You didnt play well this game but it happens when you have lots o value
So I see Pogo still works best when you don't actually use the Pogo part of the deck? Thanks Kib
Ikr. Is it a pogo deck or a lackey deck?
Awesome. Isn't it?
Exactly my thought
Damien Duncan Probably a good alternative vs control warrior (almost an insta win)
Miguel Rodriguez good luck beating control warrior with no heal as rogue... better hope that zilliax lands on a 15/15 pogo
Every time I watch a Kibler video it’s “I can’t hold all this value” problems
And everytime i play it's ''where's my value at?''
My heart shattered when you didn't play khadgar into zarog's crown
am i proud to be a 29 year old man yelling at a 30-something year old professional online card player through my computer screen? not one bit, but i'm not a liar and i was disappointed that kibler didn't kadgar crown.
Spirit of the Shark works really damn great with Lackeys
Wondering if the barista is good in the deck
@@Kryptnyt too slow and a little bit low valued in my opinion compared to the other things rogue can do lol
not to mention you can only run one barista in a deck so you don't maximize it's value most of it's time when you you're going through your deck searching for it.
@@Kryptnyt Compared to Barista, you can Prep -> Vanish so it's much easier to use.
remember when like 70% of all decks used brann?
now give him stealth and on top of doubeling battlecrys he also doubles combos
the only rogue deck where i can think of right now that couldn't use it to its full potential would be deathrattle rogue but they still have combos and some battlecrys
Kibler's looking like a mad scientist.
Fits the kind of deck he's playing imo :D
I was about to say same thing xD
I thought it was SSJ2. My bad
”Hehe i’ll show them, i’ll show them aaaall!”
I liked that turn where you played a lot of things.
So... every turn in the game?
SirBenthr 😄😄😄😄
The Pogos decided the entire game.
Nerf plis Pogos
Ash Lily Quinn What’s your profile picture?
@@Someguyy867It's from the cover of "The Art of Alice: Madness Returns."
@Someguyy867 It's from a video game called: "Alice Madness Returns". I used to play the shit out of that game back in the days.
Thank you very much. Have a good day guys.
Its great that he’s playing classical music while all that chaos is happening, on top of being a mad genius.
Ah man, really wanted him to play Khadgar with the summon legendary treasure.
4:05
Safeguard: Say the Magic Word! >:c
Kibler: okay.... sure. ._."
Shark and Miscreant fuel for DAYS
That turn where he got discover into exactly assassinate was pretty lucky.
Omg! Beethoven Violin Concerto! That's what I'm playing right now!!
pretty damn absurd how a 1/5 3 mana cost can carry any rogue deck in ladder, lackeys way too good and versatile, shark just makes you go insane levels of value
It's not the 1/5 that is why it's so good. Rogue is the only class that can consistently and reliably replay and get extra value from lackey cards, on top of the fact 1 mana battlecries are just powerful for combo. The mechanic is pretty much tailor-made for rogue's toolkit. I don't think it needs to be nerfed or anything, but it's not like anyone didn't see rogues benefiting the most from lackeys coming.
I feel like the cards that are pogo hopper support are also all pretty good for other stuff, and hoppers become pretty damn decent as soon as the third one played.
this deck has achieved the impossible!
kibler now ends his turns with a click, not a bang!
Barista Linchen seems like she'd be pretty great in this deck.
Oh nooooyyy! We All wanted the crown khadgar combooooo
Look at that man's smile.
10:45 I'm disappointed. Didn't play Khadgar Crown for views.
I think the hardest part of making pogo work is that we lost Elvish Minstral. There really isn't enough card draw. We saw this with Jade Druid also - a lot of decks later game can handle or even outpace 1 large minion each turn - it's where you manage to average more than 1 large minion per turn that it is very difficult.
The one thing I would say is that I'm not sure why Brian isn't running Ziliax main if this was supposed to be a Pogo Deck.... :D
He is running zilliax main deck =). He draws it off of wand near the end of the video, and you can see it in his deck tracker.
Imagine saying Khadgar is good with Toggwaggle and then saying “Crown doesn’t do much here”. Just imagine using Wondrous Wand in your mostly 1-4 cost deck that has 14 pogo hoppers in it. Crazy.
Kiblers homeless face indicates the current state of Hearthstone
Its fantastic, best meta in years
Pogo is like playing jade, where you just eventually have endgame turns playing out 20-50 stat creatures
But even control warrior can kill you before you do anything
nice now i wanna try carpet lackey rogue
Nice deck gg control!
The pogo part of the deck works better when you don’t use all your pogo cards for lackeys lmfao
Mind=Melted
i basically run this deck without the pogo hoppers. Just spirit of the shark and lackeys is super strong and so much fun. Add in the deathrattle myras and its been getting me close to legend.
Yeah Myra has so many good hits this expansion.
Spirit of the shark pop off
kibs is just the anti-SMOrc every time. Love the defensive plays while ahead just to get dat value tho.
You should’ve shuffled sharks and kept going off
APM rogue with no van-cleef
Playing tempo rogue and adding pogo for the lulz.
A link for the Decklist would be nice
so..... pogo or lackey deck????
neither. Thief and other versions are still better
Pogo or lackey?
Yes.
Do you have a decklist for us?
I made a similar deck but I am using hooktusk and shuffling her into the deck so she summons more hooktusk
Crazy game))
Oh, up to no good? Me too!
I was thinking can you use doll master with the pogo hopper to make them turbo out quicker or will they still be 1/1's
The Buff wouldn't go off because it's a battlecry.
From nothing...POWER
lul my pogo decks literally called "pogo more like poggers"
Pog Hoppers
Pogo still awesome
What's the best replacement for tak?
The pogos, they do nothing!
Was it misplay to not use spirit of the shark to trigger eviserate twice early in the game? Not sure if that is how it would have worked or not.
shark only works with minions
To be fair, the pogos should stay in for late game, making the deck more viable against most kind of decks.
Wait would spirit be good when run in regular tempo rogue? Value is important in the mirrors
Value is far less important than tempo in the mirror, and the 4 mana 0/3 is a rough turn. You can make up for the lost tempo in a lot of other matchups because shark is insane with Lackeys, but against actual Tempo rogue there's a decent chance you just die before it matters.
Kib, do u upload ur decks to some site? If not, pls do. Thanks!
Check disguised toasts site it has all streamers and legend player decks, even for different classes. It’s what I use
Let's make a Waggle/Lackey/Shark deck, then throw in two Pogohoppers to call it a Pogo deck, then say that the Pogohoppers are the worst part of the deck.
Wow, ya don't say?
this game was about everything but pogos
Perfectly good kadgar crown wasted
Summon four Nat Pagles.
3:02 That timing.
Amazing timing, at that.
I know wand was probably the right play but I really wanted to see crown with khadgar :(
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why he doesnt give the deck codes in the description?
Deck list? This version is awesome and fun
this deck isn't meta..... but hell yeah it's funny
Summon an even larger pogo
What would you cut for Edwin?
.....pogo lmao did u even watch the vid
Chat :Jebaited
Ya I'm just using vancleef and evil rats instead xd
So guys, this video is the best example you should NEVER play with electricity
Lackeystone
Pogos new meta?? Lol
Can deck list
At 1:14 wouldn't it be better to first play shark into backstab prep evis to do double 4 damage and not having to trade?
evis isnt a battlecry......
what do you mean double 4 damage? shark only doubles battlecries and combos, not spells.
Spells don't work with shark; only minions trigger its effects.
@@syntez019 damn im stupid :D
So much happening, but no impact whatsoever.
bullshit. He won with all that incremental value. Every little thing mattered.
I was JUUUSTTT thinking about making a deck almost exsactly like this when I went to bed last night, I was thinking of a pogo deck that could survive off the other battle-cries, and the pogo would just be an end condition or a lucky start win.
Deckcode pls
GG
Give me the code of deck, pleeeeeease
1:30 was that a misplay?
Cause he didnt need to trade his 3/2 minion, if he prepped evis. Cuz shark would’ve popped evis on the drake twice
Definitely need edwin lol
That hair
Pogo is the new Jade... and its not that great. Turns out the mana ramping was the best part of Jade anyways... who knew.
y not khadgar into crown??
Because there were too much pressure from the opponent and there are currently a lot of bad legendaries who don't do too much just by summoning. But his own deck has better cards to help him out so playing draw 3 was better. Although I do think khadgar+crown would've been funnier.
Mahmudul Hassan Hasib itd been fun tho
Pog WTF
lol the pogos were not necessary after all
problem with pogos nowadays = not enough minion draw... also Tess - dead again
I feel like this annoys me more because another streamer did this recently, but why use pogohopper in title and thumbnail if they're not really the focus of the video?
Nujum Key clickbait
The only other person I've seen use Pogo's is Toast and he nailed it with 32/32 pogos against a control warrior
💖
Played a few times and never got any lackeys. Without those, this deck seems to suck.
Battlecry Rogue
Clickerino baiterino kiblerino
12:34
REEEEEEEEE
This game was pretty disgusting. And I say that as someone who's playing a rogue deck that does some of the same things, but never quite to that degree.
World's slowest player
Bouncing rogue
Kebab
Gotta write a comment if I’m this early
Earliest I’ve ever been.
Clickbait title. Not enough pogo!
Not even use khadgar poor:(
I would've been so tempted to pick the crown, so I could Khadgar into crown for 4 legendaries. Obviously, Kibler did the right thing in picking the wand, but still.... had it been me, I don't know if I could have resisted that temptation, even if I knew that it would almost certainly come at the cost of losing that game.
So many rope turns, ugh.
Брайн, ты с похмелья?
You should have chosen the crown +Khadgar could be somehow leathal or maybe i dont know 4 LEGENDARYS .You didnt play well this game but it happens when you have lots o value
Everyone bitching about not using khadgar even tho you won..... Smh
*BUT THE VALUE!*