The community is upset about losing the FD but nobody wants to step up and volunteer. Shame really that volunteerism has been replaced by the all mighty $. Sad trend in todays world :(
@@mcaddictsdamn right shit people ant doing shit free anymore or giving there damn fucking time free anymore dammit shit people got bills to pay and kids to feed shit
I'm a Career Firefighter of 15 years and a volunteer for 22 years. I've made my way up to Fire chief of the Volunteer dept. I'm on. It's sad to say, but volunteering isn't a priority anymore to people or their community. I'm hopeful for the future now. I recently started a "Junior Firefighter" program for any High School student age 16 and 17. They get all the training, gear and respond on emergencies with us. We cant have them fight fire or respond on EMS or Car accidents. Hook them while they are young...that's the way to do it lol
I’m a junior firefighter I get training gear and everything have a pager and I can go on any emergency I want I can do everything at them only thing I can’t do is work the ladder and jaws of life and run into the building but I can fight it from the outside
@@theexperience6448 every place is a bit different. I'm restricted due to my board that oversees the department. I get to make all operational decisions, but the legal aspects is from the board. There is a thought process behind it, it's not all legal stuff. 1) as a 16 year old, you don't need to see some of the stuff that is out there yet (i.e. EMS calls, suicides, Car Accident fatalities etc.) Protecting the young minds. 2) There are not only legal ramifications if a 16 or 17 year old gets hurt or killed on a fire, there is the public perception of your department (Doesn't matter if everything was done right, sometimes shit just happens). In Indiana you can not obtain a firefighter certification till you are 18. You can start training at 17 years and 1 week old (No idea how or why they came up with that). I also keep operations to "If you're not certified you don't go" Meaning EMS calls. Like I said, every place is a bit different in how they operate. The Department close to me does the same as your department.
One of the many problems you run into is that many employers will not let there employees off to make calls for there communities. I have always found that a sad thing. But I am afraid it's true. My father was a volunteer in EMS AND A PAID FIREFIGHTER. I MYSELF WAS A VOLUNTEER IN EMS AND LATER BECAME A PAID EMS WORKER. MY MOTHER'S BROTHER WAS A VOLUNTEER IN EMS AND RESCUE, THEN HIS SON WAS A VOLUNTEER IN EMS. MY MOTHER'S SISTER WAS A LPN IN THE SAME VOLUNTEER EMS WHEN THEY MADE OUT OF TOWN TRIPS TO OTHER HOSPITALS. NOW MY SON IS PAID LAW ENFORCEMENT A DEPUTY SHERIFF. I SAVED THE LAST PART THIS IS ALSO HOW MY WIFE AND I MET IN THE VOLUNTEER EMS, SHE WAS AN EMT JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE FAMILY. JUST LAST YEAR WE ALL AGREED NOW WE HAVE BLUE AND RED BLOODS IN THE FAMILY.
You know they all complain about not having volunteers and the community dosent like that yet you don't see anyone of them wanting to volunteer they dont give a shit the community not one bit
I don't think that's right to 12 so as long as you're fire department down because that they need more volunteer firefighters what will the city do without volunteer fireman and paid fireman
here in nc lot vol now mostly peope who wanna go in fire service and they have sometimes mutiple jobs such as fire dept paid and emt paid and they do vol on free willing itme so lot them stay super busy so vol is last thing theyd o and leaves lack of fire fighters in vol fileld
It's difficult for a young, married person with a job to spend hours of training, drills meetings,call to volunteer to be a firefighter these days. I joined the volunteer fire service in 1961 and still can do some things, like run the pump. The training consisted of about 20 hours of State requirements. Further training was taught by the officers. People just don't have the time for the amount of required training to be a volunteer firefighter
@@rayhollenbeck8419 true and not true lot vol fire ifghters were i live are paid and emt are some might be forrest fire fighter and vol but vol is on there free time ive seen some most work ffor city or surrend country that paid and be emt either with county ems or fire dpet makes emt run if there together and when they do vol its last rueslt osme do both and dont got time to vol even when they do they spend memuim time doing it lot vol take paid fire ifghters more then street worker or a cosnuttuion worker who wants vol time because one there going into field and they alredy got tranning and i think vol choosing to hire people who do fire fighing full time is could be a pat problom hire paid peopel who do it as carreer but also hire peopel who dont ive seen lot vol here we got city and vol do county ive seen they take vol fire fighters and city end up annexin the vol land clsing thrm making it into city then the city builds a city station and hire people the thing is the cities annex the vol land when they cant meet reguriments and the vol now belongs to city land i say vol need to not only bring in people who do it as a actully job but they need also pull people who do it as job let them vol yess but also pull people who wanna vol there actull time and u can work it out
Inexperienced young chief loses all his firefighters and company closes. That's what happened. That's what usually happens....but nobody is going to tell you that.
"This is a part of our community". Ok, first, you can dry your eyes and be quiet for a while. Remember, you're all upset because it's a VOLUNTEER department shutting down. If you're that upset enough to show up to a meeting and state your voice, then you have that same amount of time and ambition to fix said problem as well. Instead, let's continue to complain, watch the fire station shut down, then relieve the stress and anxiety to the local surrounding departments, where their response time will be twice as much and twice and crucial, and then that builds on the whole new age old problem "What took you guys so long?" Trust me when I say this, it's been this way then, and will continue to be so: YOU, and ONLY you are the problem AND the solution.
My community has paid full time firefighters. It cost the taxpayers a fortune to have them sitting around being paid to do nothing most of the time they even get paid to sleep at work. Volunteer depts are the far better alternative communities need to support them.
The fuck? its a job...they're running 24 hour shifts...they are entitled to sleep...and what you don't know? Is that those guys aren't sitting around doing nothing. They're working out in the gym, cleaning the TAXPAYER paid station and apparatus, training, ect....yes there is down time, but not as much as you think.
That's not right to close any volunteer fire department down because that what will they do if it's a house fire or any apartment fires it's not right at all to close any fire departments or any fire stations we need all fire stations to stay open when it's a fire and any fire department in any state can help out by not closing fire stations is volunteer firefighters no volunteer fire department should get shut down and that's not cool
The community is upset about losing the FD but nobody wants to step up and volunteer. Shame really that volunteerism has been replaced by the all mighty $. Sad trend in todays world :(
lol
What ever man the major city fire departments are were it’s at shit
Mike Ayers you hit the nail on the head. People won’t give support then get upset when they lose it.
whydoesnt anyone volunteer is it all about the money im a volunteer its the best job ever even though i dont get payed
Cap Cap People have to work two or three jobs to get by now. Nobody has time to volunteer anymore. Its not like the old days.
That's "paid" not "payed"
I was once told if you have to get paid for everything you do you're not worth much 🤔
That’s the point ass I need to get damn fucking paid shit I got bills to pay ass
@@mcaddictsdamn right shit people ant doing shit free anymore or giving there damn fucking time free anymore dammit shit people got bills to pay and kids to feed shit
I'm a Career Firefighter of 15 years and a volunteer for 22 years. I've made my way up to Fire chief of the Volunteer dept. I'm on. It's sad to say, but volunteering isn't a priority anymore to people or their community. I'm hopeful for the future now. I recently started a "Junior Firefighter" program for any High School student age 16 and 17. They get all the training, gear and respond on emergencies with us. We cant have them fight fire or respond on EMS or Car accidents. Hook them while they are young...that's the way to do it lol
Good luck chief. Anything is worth a try
If they respond on all emergencies but can’t fight fires, can’t go on a ems or Mva... what can they do?
I’m a junior firefighter I get training gear and everything have a pager and I can go on any emergency I want I can do everything at them only thing I can’t do is work the ladder and jaws of life and run into the building but I can fight it from the outside
@@theexperience6448 every place is a bit different. I'm restricted due to my board that oversees the department. I get to make all operational decisions, but the legal aspects is from the board. There is a thought process behind it, it's not all legal stuff. 1) as a 16 year old, you don't need to see some of the stuff that is out there yet (i.e. EMS calls, suicides, Car Accident fatalities etc.) Protecting the young minds. 2) There are not only legal ramifications if a 16 or 17 year old gets hurt or killed on a fire, there is the public perception of your department (Doesn't matter if everything was done right, sometimes shit just happens). In Indiana you can not obtain a firefighter certification till you are 18. You can start training at 17 years and 1 week old (No idea how or why they came up with that). I also keep operations to "If you're not certified you don't go" Meaning EMS calls. Like I said, every place is a bit different in how they operate. The Department close to me does the same as your department.
@@mrxperfectxdeathx9620 they can do extirpated firefighting as least in my state. Fire fires from the outside, tools bitch and anything else.
I volunteer as tribute! Seriously if I lived near by I'd volunteer
One of the many problems you run into is that many employers will not let there employees off to make calls for there communities. I have always found that a sad thing. But I am afraid it's true. My father was a volunteer in EMS AND A PAID FIREFIGHTER. I MYSELF WAS A VOLUNTEER IN EMS AND LATER BECAME A PAID EMS WORKER. MY MOTHER'S BROTHER WAS A VOLUNTEER IN EMS AND RESCUE, THEN HIS SON WAS A VOLUNTEER IN EMS. MY MOTHER'S SISTER WAS A LPN IN THE SAME VOLUNTEER EMS WHEN THEY MADE OUT OF TOWN TRIPS TO OTHER HOSPITALS. NOW MY SON IS PAID LAW ENFORCEMENT A DEPUTY SHERIFF. I SAVED THE LAST PART THIS IS ALSO HOW MY WIFE AND I MET IN THE VOLUNTEER EMS, SHE WAS AN EMT JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE FAMILY. JUST LAST YEAR WE ALL AGREED NOW WE HAVE BLUE AND RED BLOODS IN THE FAMILY.
Employers in pa can not punish or fire an employee if they miss work for a fire call. Employees can also leave early for fire calls too
Two rivers is such a small city I can see why there's really no one who wants to join there's just not enough population for it.
If I were there I would volunteer as a firefighter again! I can also train k9 for search and rescue
Isn’t Ryan Upchurch From Cheatham County ashland City to be exact
I want ....But what are you willing to do to get.
You know they all complain about not having volunteers and the community dosent like that yet you don't see anyone of them wanting to volunteer they dont give a shit the community not one bit
I don't think that's right to 12 so as long as you're fire department down because that they need more volunteer firefighters what will the city do without volunteer fireman and paid fireman
here in nc lot vol now mostly peope who wanna go in fire service and they have sometimes mutiple jobs such as fire dept paid and emt paid and they do vol on free willing itme so lot them stay super busy so vol is last thing theyd o and leaves lack of fire fighters in vol fileld
Who’s gonna cover the area for alarms?
If they'd be accepting 14-17 year olds and older, i would love to sit down and chat about training me and doing volunteer work.
I have to wonder if there is an underlying reason for no volunteers..........
It's difficult for a young, married person with a job to spend hours of training, drills meetings,call to volunteer to be a firefighter these days. I joined the volunteer fire service in 1961 and still can do some things, like run the pump. The training consisted of about 20 hours of State requirements. Further training was taught by the officers. People just don't have the time for the amount of required training to be a volunteer firefighter
@@rayhollenbeck8419 true and not true lot vol fire ifghters were i live are paid and emt are some might be forrest fire fighter and vol but vol is on there free time ive seen some most work ffor city or surrend country that paid and be emt either with county ems or fire dpet makes emt run if there together and when they do vol its last rueslt osme do both and dont got time to vol even when they do they spend memuim time doing it lot vol take paid fire ifghters more then street worker or a cosnuttuion worker who wants vol time because one there going into field and they alredy got tranning and i think vol choosing to hire people who do fire fighing full time is could be a pat problom hire paid peopel who do it as carreer but also hire peopel who dont ive seen lot vol here we got city and vol do county ive seen they take vol fire fighters and city end up annexin the vol land clsing thrm making it into city then the city builds a city station and hire people the thing is the cities annex the vol land when they cant meet reguriments and the vol now belongs to city land i say vol need to not only bring in people who do it as a actully job but they need also pull people who do it as job let them vol yess but also pull people who wanna vol there actull time and u can work it out
@@rayhollenbeck8419damn right shit
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Inexperienced young chief loses all his firefighters and company closes. That's what happened. That's what usually happens....but nobody is going to tell you that.
People are so driven by fear.
Ask how much your taxes will go down,,,I’ll bet not one cent
"This is a part of our community". Ok, first, you can dry your eyes and be quiet for a while. Remember, you're all upset because it's a VOLUNTEER department shutting down. If you're that upset enough to show up to a meeting and state your voice, then you have that same amount of time and ambition to fix said problem as well. Instead, let's continue to complain, watch the fire station shut down, then relieve the stress and anxiety to the local surrounding departments, where their response time will be twice as much and twice and crucial, and then that builds on the whole new age old problem "What took you guys so long?" Trust me when I say this, it's been this way then, and will continue to be so: YOU, and ONLY you are the problem AND the solution.
My community has paid full time firefighters. It cost the taxpayers a fortune to have them sitting around being paid to do nothing most of the time they even get paid to sleep at work. Volunteer depts are the far better alternative communities need to support them.
Bull shit paid major city fire departments is were its at Ass
@@armaniburton8661 Paid retirement homes is what career fire depts really are. On the backs of the misinformed taxpayers of course.
@@Dbodell8000 yeah what ever azz hole
@@armaniburton8661 You’re no doubt a career firefighter aren’t you? Asshole!
The fuck? its a job...they're running 24 hour shifts...they are entitled to sleep...and what you don't know? Is that those guys aren't sitting around doing nothing. They're working out in the gym, cleaning the TAXPAYER paid station and apparatus, training, ect....yes there is down time, but not as much as you think.
That's just wrong!
That's not right to close any volunteer fire department down because that what will they do if it's a house fire or any apartment fires it's not right at all to close any fire departments or any fire stations we need all fire stations to stay open when it's a fire and any fire department in any state can help out by not closing fire stations is volunteer firefighters no volunteer fire department should get shut down and that's not cool
WHAT??????????