Trains along the Dawlish Seawall - NetworkRail, a modern day King Canute in a battle to stop the sea

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  • Опубліковано 2 гру 2021
  • The section of the Great Western Main-line between London Paddington and Penzance along the notorious seawall at Dawlish is probably the most photographed railway location in Britain. The choice of route was not one of Isambard Kingdom Brunel’s better decisions, leaving a legacy of never ending headaches for those charged with maintaining the line. The seawall carrying the railway at Dawlish takes the full force of the open sea, it has been breached on numerous occasions since its construction, most recently in 2014 when the line was closed between February 4th and April 3rd due to a washout at Dawlish (Riveira Terrace) and a rock fall at Holcombe. Generations of children including myself have enjoyed playing on the sandy beaches as a succession of trains passed along the seawall ranging from famous named expresses to humble pickup freights. The route featured in this video between Exeter and Teignmouth was opened by the South Devon Railway company on the 30th May 1846 as a broad gauge line 7 feet ¼ inch (2,140 mm) utilising a novel form of propulsion whereby the train was attached to a piston pulled through a tube set between the tracks. A vacuum was created in the central tube by pumping stations spaced along the route, this vacuum in effect pulled the piston through the tube, unfortunately the technology was ahead of the materials available at the time, the leather used to seal the slot in the tube required to connect the piston with the underside of the train was simply not up to the job. Atmospheric trains as they were known only ran from 13th September 1847 until 9th September 1848 after which they were replaced by conventional steam locomotives. Standard Gauge rails (4 feet 8½ inches) replaced the original broad gauge tracks after 20th May 1892. The London and South Western Railway operated their trains via Oakhampton between Exeter and Plymouth, the line was occasionally used by GWR trains as an alternative route to Cornwall whenever the coastal line was closed due to storm damage. Over the years a local inland route was considered, avoiding the vulnerable coastal section between Exeter and Teignmouth, the idea never got past the talking stage. On Sunday, May 5, 1968 the Southern Railway Railway’s route to Plymouth was closed by the government of the day, leaving only the disaster prone coastal line to serve stations beyond Exeter to Plymouth and Penzance. We take a look at some of the stations along the old Southern Railway route still served by modern DMU’s today, indeed the route to Oakhampton has just reopened to passenger trains. Only a 20-mile (32 km) section between Meldon Quarry and Bere Alston was lifted, the seawall will be washed away again, MP’s West of Exeter will call for the old Southern Railway route to be re-instated, noises will be made in the Houses of Parliament and nothing will happen. Our forefathers must be holding their heads in utter despair as they look down on the pathetic decision makers of today as they prattle on about saving the planet whilst leaving people with no alternative to driving by road.
    To learn more about the seawall, please click on this link - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_D...
    To learn more about the atmospheric system of propulsion, please click on this link - devonheritage.org/stentiford/I...
    To learn more about the missing link, please click on this link - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmoo...
    Who was King Canute (Cnut)? - www.firstclasssailing.com/blo...

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  • @medwaymodelrailway7129
    @medwaymodelrailway7129 2 роки тому +1

    Nice video you done there. Thanks for sharing.

  • @mibi1946
    @mibi1946 2 роки тому +2

    Good to see what king CANUTE has been up to at Dawlish

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому

      I hope Network Rail is more successful than the King was in his fabled attempt to stop the tide at Bosham. The tale about the King was exaggerated by the press of the day, some things don't change over the century's 😊 - www.firstclasssailing.com/blog/the-king-canute-dispute/

  • @jimmyjam4371
    @jimmyjam4371 2 роки тому

    Brilliant footage. Most relaxing to watch. Many thanks for posting.😀

  • @GoodfordModelRailway
    @GoodfordModelRailway 2 роки тому

    What an interesting and well put together video, always had a soft spot for this part of the GWR! Thanks for sharing 👍

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому +1

      Hi, I'm pleased you liked it. I remember watching Westerns, Warships, Peaks and Class 47's as a kid running along the seawall, the highlight of my summer holidays was to spend the evenings walking along the beach with a bag of chips, how I wish my camera back then was something better than a Kodak Instamatic, it captured the memories, sadly the photos were poor quality, not good enough to publish.

  • @panikrystyna1
    @panikrystyna1 2 роки тому +1

    Witaj Tim! Lubię " Pana Pickwicka" między innymi za występujące tam dyliżanse. Dickens stworzył opowieść z życia dyliżansów i otrzymaliśmy " na wieczną rzeczy pamiątkę" obraz tych fascynujących pojazdów. Ty postąpiłeś podobnie. Ten film to opowieść z życia pociągów, tak jak u Dickensa przepojona sympatią .. A może nawet lepsza niż książka bo bogata w środki filmowe. To piękny obraz maszyn przyjaznych ludziom. Twój sposób widzenia kolei jest fascynujący. Dziękuję.

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому

      Widziałem wiele dyliżinsów, zwykle w muzeach transportu, chciałbym jeździć w jednym. Na końcu mojego ogrodu znajduje się miejsce, w którym na początku 1900 roku znajdowały się stajnie, które umożliwiały koniom dyliżnograficznym odpoczynek, podczas gdy świeża para przejęła kontrolę. Dickens był świetnym pisarzem, książka, którą znam najlepiej, to "Oliver Twist", film jest pokazywany w telewizji w każdy dzień Bożego Narodzenia. Nie wyobrażam sobie Dawlish bez kolei. Kolej jest tak samo częścią sceny, jak piaszczyste plaże. Najlepsze życzenia. Tim.
      I've seen a lot of stage coaches, usually in transport museums, I'd love to ride in one. There is a place at the end of my garden where there were stables in the early 1900's used to enable stage coach horses to rest, whilst a fresh pair took over. Dickens was a great writer, the book I know best is "Oliver Twist", the film is shown on TV every Christmas Day. I could not imagine Dawlish without a railway. The railway is as much a part of the scene as the sandy beaches. Best wishes. Tim.

  • @user-rk4gj8yh3i
    @user-rk4gj8yh3i 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the very nice video Tim.

  • @ADMIRALSCORNER
    @ADMIRALSCORNER 2 роки тому

    Always an interesting location to watch trains. Thanks for the video Tim.

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому

      Cheers, I'm pleased you enjoyed it. The scene is changing fast, as the new seawall progresses the uninterrupted views from the seaward train windows are being lost. Increasing the height of the sea defenses is a long overdue and necessary move, but I'll miss seeing people enjoying their holidays on the sandy beaches.

  • @VlakynaSlovensku
    @VlakynaSlovensku 2 роки тому

    Excellent video!

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому

      Thank you, it is a fascinating stretch of railway. Please click on this link to see the seawall in really rough weather - ua-cam.com/video/C-B-Bx3KjeQ/v-deo.html

  • @HedgehogsUK
    @HedgehogsUK 2 роки тому

    I've been watching a lot of your videos recently really well produced. It was quite a surprise when I saw my son and I on your video cycling home through Cockwood.

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому

      Hi, was that the two of you at 23:12 ? I'm pleased you enjoyed the videos and I appreciate your comment, it's a nice part of the country for cycling.

  • @christopherbraiden6713
    @christopherbraiden6713 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the video Tim, absolutely beautiful place to watch trains. A great collection of these here. Such beautiful scenery and a kind look sea!!😎🚆🚆🚆🚃🚃🚃🚃🇬🇧

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому +1

      Hello Christopher, I'm always drawn towards the seawall when I'm visiting Devon, there is nowhere else quite like it 😊.

  • @Pjs75
    @Pjs75 2 роки тому +1

    Tim, thank you - well up to your usual high quality, atmospheric *, amalgam of content over time. The action: even from the ‘animated’ stills, was palpable, especially with the added sound track.
    I’ve just realised that at Starcross station there was a glimpse of part of IK Brunel’s ill-starred * ‘Atmospheric Railway’ - viz. the building that used to contain the pumping machinery.

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому

      Hi Peter, I'm pleased you enjoyed the video. I was under the impression there was a museum about the atmospheric railway at Starcross in the old pumping house, I'm sure I've seen a video showing how a domestic vacuum cleaner was able to propel a person on a truck along a demonstration line. I must have dreamed it, the old pumping house is home to a fishing club now, maybe there was a museum and it closed, I can't find much information on the internet, although I do have an old Video125 VHS tape that appears to shown a museum inside the pumping house.

    • @Pjs75
      @Pjs75 2 роки тому

      Tim, I haven’t been to Starcross except passing on a boat tour from Exmouth up the Exe to Topsham, and back. The nearest I’ve been to that history is seeing a section of the cast iron pipe at Didcot railway where they even have some of the broad-gauge track. Cheers

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому +1

      @@Pjs75 Didcot runs broad gauge replica trains occasionally, its nice to be able to see and experience the past. Did you see any seals on your boat ride between Exemouth and Topsham?

  • @derisleybrittain
    @derisleybrittain 2 роки тому

    Superb footage 💖💖💖💖👊👊👊🎈🎈🎈🤩🤩🤩☀️☀️☀️😁😁😁😁😁

  • @MrPeerum
    @MrPeerum 2 роки тому

    ha Tim.nice video on the coast.super. have a nice weekend stay save. greetz:Peer.

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому

      Hello MrPeerum, I'm pleased you enjoyed the video and I'll be sure to have a good weekend, I hope your weekend is a good one too. Cheers. Tim.

  • @bevsbitznbobz5754
    @bevsbitznbobz5754 2 роки тому +1

    What a stunning film! The definition is brilliant and you are obviously a professional cameraman. The composition is perfect and you must have some fantastic equipment for the long shots. I spent many a holiday in the 50s and 60s at Dawlish Warren, with Kings and Castles hammering through the Warren. Excellent stuff, Tim!

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому +1

      Hi, how I wish I'd seen Kings and Castles along the seawall, although watching the first generation diesels was exciting to me as a young child. I was lucky enough to sea steam in its last days on the mainline, the Brighton to Plymouth train ran past my home in West Sussex with one of Bullied's Pacifics up front, if I had a time machine I'd go back to those days and travel on the train I saw every day.
      I appreciate your kind comment, my parents used to record our holidays on cine film, when I had children of my own I bought my first video camera back in the mid 80's. UA-cam was still a long way in the future, so I didn't worry too much about the quality of my videos, after all it was only going to be myself and my immediate family watching it. I joined UA-cam in 2012, my first uploads were a bit shaky, so I bought a tripod and the best camera I could afford at the time, the improvement was noticeable, next I bought an external microphone. The way I could record and share my passion for travel and trains was heavily influenced by UA-cam. Today, I rarely watch television, preferring to watch the fascinating stuff people post to UA-cam, whatever you can think of, somebody somewhere has made a video about it. My day job as a plastic injection mold toolmaker/tool designer is a complete contrast to my hobby. All the best. Tim.

    • @bevsbitznbobz5754
      @bevsbitznbobz5754 2 роки тому

      @@Timsvideochannel1 Like you, I started videoing in the late 80s, with a Phillips Explorer full-size shoulder camera - and I’ve still got it somewhere! Now I use my iPhone.

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому

      @@bevsbitznbobz5754 My first video camera was a Hitachi 6500E, I wore the video recorder on a strap over my shoulder and held the camera, it was massive. It's amazing what a mobile phone can do today.

  • @nigelgarvey2046
    @nigelgarvey2046 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this. When my brother and I were kids in the late 1950s and early 1960s, we'd spend summer holidays with our grandparents and cousins who lived in Exeter. We'd be taken on day trips by steam train to either Exmouth, Dawlish, or Teignmouth and spend the days on the beach or playing in the sea. At Dawlish, we'd wade around in the sea until we saw steam come round the headland in either direction, then make our way back to the beach and up to the wall just in time to catch the name or number of the locomotive. 🙂
    There used to be black swans in the park by the station. (Edit.) I see from others' comments that there still are. 🙂

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому

      I believe the black swans are still resident in the river that runs through the park in the center of Dawlish, although I didn't see them on my last visit. It must have been wonderful to see steam trains on the sea wall, in my childhood days steam had disappeared from the West of England, first generation diesels hauled the expresses. My parents used to take us to a farm caravan site at Rattery near Totnes where I'd spend my days watching Western's, Warship's, Brush Type 4's and Peaks struggling at walking pace to lift their 12 and sometime 13 coach trains up the gradient, in later days an HST broke down in front of me just before it entered the tunnel at the top of the bank, I watched it being towed away using a special draw bar. Back in the 70's I used to buy an anywhere in Devon to anywhere in Cornwall rail ticket and go exploring all the branch lines as well as the main line ... happy days. I always looked forward to West Country holidays, it must have been great to have family in Exeter 😊.

    • @nigelgarvey2046
      @nigelgarvey2046 2 роки тому

      @@Timsvideochannel1 I think I was probably more interested in the trains than in the family at that age. 😄 Unless Dad was able to hire a car, we'd travel there from Guildford by train: electric to Woking and Merchant Navy-hauled steam from there to Exeter Central. I particularly remember Honiton Tunnel and the signs on the way saying "You're in the Strong country". From my grandparents' house, we could hear the trains struggling up the hill from St. David's to Central. Grandad was a locomotive cleaner at Exmouth Junction and had previously lost the top joint of a finger through an accident with a coal wagon. He used to cycle to work on an ancient bike with carbide lamps! The Warships (three different types) and Westerns were around then too. They were exciting for being new and different. 😊

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому

      @@nigelgarvey2046 Like yourself, I was more interested in the trains than the scenery or family outings. Our family had a car, although getting a family of five along with all the camping equipment into a Mini was a bit of a challenge. The Roads around Exeter had not been built and the holiday traffic jams in and out of the city were legendary, not a great experience for bored young children or parents who had to listen to "how much longer before we get there?" over and over again. There were plenty of times when I'd look at the passing trains and wish I was a passenger. I have only seen the "You're in the Strong country" sign on the Watercress Railway, I have been lucky enough to experienced steam to Exeter with N15 Class No.777 Sir Lamiel in the mid eighties on a special out of Waterloo, a few years later I traveled on another special that started from the Watercress Railway back in the days when they ran the "Green Train" on the main line, our locomotive was a green "Black 5" nicknamed the "Pocket Rocket", we traveled to Exeter via the Southern route returning via the Berks & Hants Line. My daughter was a signaler at Exeter Central until recently, she's moved on to another box now. I never saw one of the D600 Class A1A-A1A warships, although they were around in the mid sixties. Westerns were my favorites, I loved the Body Styling. Granddads always have a gift for making the past sound romantic, mine used to take me around the docks at Birkenhead and tell me tales of Dockyard shenanigans, on one occasion there was a pug type dock shunter across the road having left the rails, I wish I'd had one of today's video cameras back then 😊.

  • @amfamilycreations5312
    @amfamilycreations5312 2 роки тому +2

    L ❣️ K E 129
    INDESCRIBABLE WORK 🤩
    👌

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you, I'm really pleased you enjoyed it 😊😊😊.

    • @amfamilycreations5312
      @amfamilycreations5312 2 роки тому +2

      @@Timsvideochannel1 Welcome Dear
      Thanks For Good Response 🤗
      🙏

  • @Fan652w
    @Fan652w 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you Tim for an excellent video! Until 18 months ago, I would have said that there was no real chance of re-opening Okehampton to Bere Alston. But two things have happened. Firstly, a lot of people now realize that to save the planet we must get out of cars onto public transport. Secondly. particularly in the light of Covid, railways must do more for LEISURE TRAVEL, particularly in tourist areas. Cornwall (including its branch railway lines) had a bumper summer in 2021. Two years ago it would have been possible to deprive that county of its railways. That is no longer acceptable.

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому

      As you point out things are changing. My youngest daughter lives in London, where there is no real need to own or use a car, many Londoners simply hire one when they need one. The problem comes for those who don't drive when they take a UK holiday, public transport in Devon and Cornwall isn't like it is in London. As more cities introduce measures to discourage car use, the more it will be necessary to provide better public transport away from the cities. If city folk can't take holidays in the UK because of poor transport links, they will go overseas to places like Switzerland where public transport is excellent, after all they can fly to Bern in less time than it takes to reach Plymouth by train. Planners face some interesting challenges in the near future as flats and houses of multiple occupation are built without parking provision. Reopening some railway lines might prove to be part of the answer as seen with the Borders Railway in Scotland, people need to live close to their places of work to cut out unnecessary commuting, the cost of using public transport must be cut dramatically to make it a realistic alternative to the car. All this will cost money and many of those paying increased taxes away from the cities won't see much benefit. The public will not vote for a party proposing to increase taxes to pay for better public transport. I'm glad I'm not a politician, it will take an awesome figure to convince a reluctant public to swallow the bitter pill of increased taxation to sort our public transport out.

    • @ChrisK-rz1sy
      @ChrisK-rz1sy 2 роки тому

      @@Timsvideochannel1 I think part of the inland route has been developed as a Sustrans cycle route. A conflict there!

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому

      @@ChrisK-rz1sy "Yes" I think you are correct. If the line is reinstated as a single track, the railway and the cycle path can still share the same alignment, as the original railway was double track. The Welsh Highland Railway between Dinas and Caernarfon uses the old British Railways double track formation where it comfortably accommodates both the railway and the cycle path.

    • @lonenomad8583
      @lonenomad8583 2 роки тому

      To think driving or not driving a car can "help save the planet" shows you clearly have very little knowledge on how the climate works...

  • @redscraftgameplay6499
    @redscraftgameplay6499 2 роки тому

    Bom dia super amigo já dei meu like assisto do Recife Pernambuco

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому

      Olá, estou feliz que tenha gostado do vídeo. Felicidades. Tim.

    • @redscraftgameplay6499
      @redscraftgameplay6499 2 роки тому

      @@Timsvideochannel1 bom dia meu amor assisto vc da cidade de recife Pernambuco Brasil

  • @robertcoleman4861
    @robertcoleman4861 2 роки тому

    Hi tim ,This rail corridor is a engineering masterpiece i hope they never reroute the line this would have to be one of the most scenic lines in the world ,Is the line sometimes closed in bad weather & how big are the tides they look enormous once again beautiful pictures thanks tim cheer's bob.

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому

      Hello Bob, even if the old Southern Railway route is reinstated, the wall will still have to be maintained to protect the town and the crumbling red sandstone cliffs. The railway doesn't just serve Cornwall, it also serves destinations that the old Southern Route didn't serve such as Torquay and Paignton. I think the seawall route is safe for the foreseeable future. Take care and stay safe. Tim.

  • @Robin-at-Longcross-UK.
    @Robin-at-Longcross-UK. 2 роки тому

    Tim, the 1987 BBC series "A Perfect Spy" was partially filmed at Dawlish. It was a great series and was repeated on BBC4 some years ago. Seeing your great film reminded me of it again.

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому +1

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Perfect_Spy_(TV_series) Hi, I don't remember this series, so I looked it up, some episodes can be found on UA-cam, having taken a quick look, I think episode 7 showed what looked like Marine Parade in Dawlish. It is available on Prime TV, I'm curious now, I'll have to look out for it.

  • @johannperaus6890
    @johannperaus6890 2 роки тому

    Hi Tim! The line is beautiful shots. It's not 2134 but 2140 millimeters, but that was once upon a time, now it's standard gauge. Best regards from Hans and Cheers 🍻

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому +1

      Hello Hans, holidays with a succession of wonderful trains in the background was my idea of heaven when I was a youngster building sand castles on the beach. I used this article to look up the rail gauge - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Western_Railway The gauge was referred to as 7 ft (2,134 mm) whilst the actual gauge was later increased to 7 ft 1⁄4 in (2,140 mm), you are correct to point out that 7 ft 1⁄4 in is (2,140 mm). I’ve changed the video description to include the correct figure. Cheers 🍺. Tim.

  • @paulliebenberg3410
    @paulliebenberg3410 Рік тому

    Guessing that you live (have lived?) near this area in Cornwall? My wife's Great-greats are from Cornwall (but almost to the tip), hope to visit someday.

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  Рік тому +1

      Hello Paul, I don't live in West Country, but I love to take holidays there, my parents took me there as a child, it remained a favourite destination as I matured, eventually getting to take my own children and now I'm old a grey it’s not just a destination of choice, it's a place full of happy memories. If you do make the trip, I'm sure you'll love it, there is no place quite like it, pretty countryside, cream teas, amazing coastlines and I recommend a visit to Saint Michael's Mount.

  • @29brendus
    @29brendus 2 роки тому

    No freight on this line? Great vid.

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому

      Hi there isn't much freight these days, some cement traffic into Cornwall and china clay products out along with an occasional log train. Most freight trains are run in conjunction with repair and maintenance to the railway itself. During the week there are only one or two freight trains a day with more at the weekend carrying materials such as rail and ballast to keep the line in a good state of repair. I'm glad you enjoyed the video.

    • @29brendus
      @29brendus 2 роки тому

      @@Timsvideochannel1 Many thanks for the info. I love train videos, traveling by train, and watching trains, and I like the technical side as well, especially the electrics. Greetings from Ireland. I haven't yet travelled this section, but it's on my to-do list as well as the trams at Seaton.

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому

      @@29brendus Hi, I hope you make it to the West Country, it is home to some wonderful heritage railways and the train between Exeter and Penzance travels along the most scenic rail route in England. The Seaton trams are well worth a visit, especially if you can arrange to visit the tram maintenance depot.

  • @Barflax
    @Barflax Рік тому

    At 19:40 Diesel-Electric train?

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  Рік тому

      "Yes" but not in the conventional sense with a diesel engine driving a generator creating power to drive traction motors, it is a Bi- mode Electric/Diesel train. The train in the video is a Class 800 Intercity Express, it uses electric motors powered from overhead electric wires for traction, but it also has diesel generators to enable it to operate on non-electrified track as shown here. A bit confusing I know, basically it is an electric train, fitted with diesel generators to allow it to operate over non-electrified track where required.

  • @AnthonyFurnival
    @AnthonyFurnival 2 роки тому

    Brilliant footage - one of my favourite places - not only for trains, but the location and of cause the black swans they have there. Sadly I think the sea wall works are going to make it tougher for us train geeks - if the remainder of the wall and promenade is like the first section then it’ll become very tough to spot there indeed. I enjoyed seeing the pacers - it’s a shame the MHR haven’t tried to get a set - I know they weren’t used in the area but I think a pacer to go with their thumper would be quite nice! Anyhow I digress - wonderful video - so many great shots and angles. Lovely to see some HSTs (the shots from the 80s were all amazing) and the voyager crossover looking down from above I really liked.

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому +1

      Hi, Dawlish is a magnet for those of us who love to see trains passing through stunning scenery, I've been visiting for over 50 years now and I never get bored with the place. Walking towards the sea next to the river where the black swans can usually be found with the railway raised on a bridge in the back ground is truly iconic, did you notice the local train being overtaken at 1:02, the signaler was really making good use of the bi-directional signalling, that was the first time I'd seen that happen on a two track railway in the UK. The Mid Hants would need to move fast to get their hands on one of the later Pacers, there are still a couple on standby at Exeter and they are in very good condition. I miss the traditional DMU they had up until a few years ago, I'd be be prepared to pay a little extra to enjoy a forward view. The CrossCountry HST's offer the last chance to see full length traditional HST's on the main line, I hope one is saved and returned to the original Blue/Grey colour scheme, maybe with a valenta powered unit at one end and the prototype unit at the other. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Cheers. Tim.

    • @AnthonyFurnival
      @AnthonyFurnival 2 роки тому

      @@Timsvideochannel1 I did indeed see that clip - I loved it, there’s actually a video on UA-cam somewhere of 2 HSTs running in the same direction there too! I like the old DMUs where you can see through the cab - there’s a 117/121 hybrid at the EOR and I went on a 121 at Swanage too. I think the MHR still have a Thumper though… but it’s been out of action for a while. I wish the MHR would take one of those pacers on but they don’t seem to have much love for DMUs there.

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому +1

      @@AnthonyFurnival I'll look out for the video featuring 2 HST's running side by side. The old DMU's with a forward facing view were my favorite trains, my grandfather used to take me for rides along the North Wales coast on the local stopping trains in the 60's, sometimes we'd go to Blaenau Ffestiniog, it was great fun to see the driver and the line ahead.. The Thumper is still on the Mid Hants as far as I'm aware, it makes sense to have one there, because they were regular performers along the line. I can see a number of advantages to having a pacer on most heritage lines, being based on a bus, I image spare parts for the engine are readily available and they can be used off peak for the first and last trains of the day. I bet there are a fair number of younger enthusiasts who would visit a railway just to travel on one again.

    • @AnthonyFurnival
      @AnthonyFurnival 2 роки тому

      @@Timsvideochannel1 I completely agree - I’m baffled as to why the MHR haven’t tried to land one. I appreciate they weren’t used locally but in my view they were quite a significant DMU both in the way they were built and indeed the reasons why they were introduced. Personally I think DMU running days could also be used to being in some money on the winter weekends the MHR is traditionally closed in November then again Jan - Mar/Apr - cheaper to operate and if advertised as diesel running days they’ll have their own appeal and nobody will feel let down by the lack of steam

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому +1

      @@AnthonyFurnival Someone is trying to save one - www.pacerrail.org/pacer-history.html Around 1980 I was waiting next the Settle and Carlisle Railway at Settle junction to video the Flying Scotsman on a special train when the prototype Class 140 Pacer passed by, it was ugly and I've seen it more recently looking in need of some love and attention on the Keith and Dufftown Railway in Scotland. I hope the National Railway Museum take it under their wing and restore it, as it was a very significant development. Some of the earlier pacers Class 142 are shown in this video in a chocolate and cream livery, they were referred to as skippers, but it wasn't long before they were moved on because they screeched and squealed too much on the sinuous West Country branch lines. All the reasons they were built in the first place still apply today, an aluminium bus body, mass produced off the shelf bus components wherever possible, cheap running costs, all good reasons for the preservation movement to consider them for their off peak services. The Class 143 Pacers also seen in this video would be my choice as the GWR ones are still used to cover for failures, they look good and they have been looked after.

  • @marcosantonio1006
    @marcosantonio1006 2 роки тому

    Assistir TimsvideochanneI1 em: 10/05/2022, ás 13:19 minutos, Terça-Feira. Estado de Pernambuco- Brasil. Mais uma viajem, na Inglaterra. Boa sorte a todos que assistiu a este vídeo.

  • @neilforbes416
    @neilforbes416 2 роки тому

    30:46 Somehow I don't see Harry Potter, Ron Weasley and Hermione Grainger setting off for Hogwarts from Platform 2 & 9 Eighths! LOL

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому

      I don't know the story behind the sign, but I'm sure it should read "Platform 3 1/8" 😉.

    • @neilforbes416
      @neilforbes416 2 роки тому

      @@Timsvideochannel1 It might well have been a gag sign put there by some joker(but I plead innocent, Your Honour! LOL)

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому

      @@neilforbes416 It's the sort of thing you'd do, but I'll accept that in this case you are not too blame, after all its a long way from Oz.

    • @neilforbes416
      @neilforbes416 2 роки тому

      @@Timsvideochannel1 Oooooohhhhh cheeky! LOL

    • @travelingman5762
      @travelingman5762 2 роки тому

      @@neilforbes416 cue the theme music LOL

  • @alanatkins4315
    @alanatkins4315 2 роки тому

    Would have been of lest cost to change the route inland behind the town, nostalgia aside.

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому

      Hi, the case for building an inland route was made almost every time the line was forced to close as a result of damage caused by rough seas. The high cost of an inland route coupled with the need to maintain the seawall to protect the town regardless of whether or not it still carried the railway undermined the case for a new route. There was also an alternative route to the West via the Southern line through Oakhampton until 1968. I find it more than a little puzzling that vast amounts of money were spent on improving the A30 whilst at the same time the Southern railway route was closed. In light of the temporary closure of the GWR route caused by rough seas in 2014 and the likelihood of it happening again, make closing the line to Plymouth via Oakhampton look like a very poor decision.

  • @terrybull1043
    @terrybull1043 2 роки тому

    With all the money and bull by net work rail the train was stuck for four hours 😂

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому +1

      Oh well, look on the bright side, it could have been worse 😉.

  • @neilforbes416
    @neilforbes416 2 роки тому

    Hi, Tim! You mentioned you were keen to see my latest video on Richmond Vale Railway Museum, I've just now finished uploading it, here's the link: ua-cam.com/video/XbJ4KNPBEpQ/v-deo.html Hope you enjoy! Cheers!

    • @Timsvideochannel1
      @Timsvideochannel1  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you Neil, I've left a longer comment on the video itself. Cheers. Tim.

    • @neilforbes416
      @neilforbes416 2 роки тому +1

      @@Timsvideochannel1 Yes, I read it. thank-you for your kind comments!

  • @daniele2172
    @daniele2172 2 роки тому

    10

  • @mikezard1311
    @mikezard1311 2 роки тому

    i'll go against the crowd. no driver pov. disappointing imo.

    • @bevsbitznbobz5754
      @bevsbitznbobz5754 2 роки тому

      If you want driver views (of the north of England) I can recommend videos by Don Coffey, if you haven’t already found them. They are superb.