"That's like, cult behavior." As is literally everything about religion. In the words of Caduceus Clay, "All a god is really is a cult with a franchise." ua-cam.com/video/GGQhSkwh2h4/v-deo.htmlh013m049s
@@cryofpaine Hell ya! Critical Roll. At least being religious in dnd makes sense because the gods actually do things and interact with thier believers.
The entire thing is horrifying, the idea that simply _observing_ something can "contaminate" you and ruin you. Can you imagine these terrified children, constantly worried that they might fuck up and look at the wrong magazine and be damned for all eternity? Hell, just imagine the state of these people who honestly believe that. That you have something called a "spirit" and just seeing and exposing yourself to stuff will harm it. Things like curse words or witches. All of this stuff clearly came from the pagan-hunting days, it's shocking that these people don't recognize the propaganda at play here.
@@potaterjim because we all know that theres no difference between a person who watches gore all day and one who doesn't? Eventually the one who does would likely snap because some things weren't meant for humans to see ALL the time
Can confirm. I got pretty good at hiding things in the family computer when I was younger. Can't say the same thing about my dad as I unfortunately found out one day...
the scary thing is knowing people it DID work on. The % of kids they raise this way that don't break out of the cycle of abuse are what they're counting on.
Reminds me how I'd sneak in "forbidden books" and read them on my PSP because any other fiction book I read that wasn't the bible would prompt my mom to nag me to read the bible. I read the bible from cover to cover thrice which is why I'm now an atheist. 🤷
@@GracUntoYou A long string of words meant to be impressionistic but conveying nothing. Replace God with Allah and see if you still agree. Get over your fear of death and start living for yourself and not an intangible person you have never seen and who never responds.
@@GracUntoYou So wait, then what does it matter even in the slightest what you see or listen to? If god is this unstoppable force and controls everything, then watch all the harry potter and porn (or harry potter porn) you want, none of it matters.
@@GracUntoYou " Knowing this, we know that in all things, everything will always work out." - I love the constant struggle present in the Bible between pre-determination and personal choice. Why should anyone worry about any of their actions if everything will always work out? Why bother with all the guilt?
“Satan puts thoughts on your head, we call those temptations ...” This will always be my biggest objection to Christianity: the shifting of blame for shitty behaviour to demons in an invisible spirit realm around us. Christians are conditioned to dodge accountability by blaming invisible monsters.
Never gave that a thought. Adds to my central objections to religion in principle. 1)Overwriting/withering peoples own moral compass by always referring to an arbitrary, orwellian, unquestionable moral authority. Someone with no tools to reflect about ethics is flying blind. 2) By believing moral being objective, absolute and surveilled at any time by that authority, it's turning turning every possible act someome can do into a performance for someone elses eye, instead of a genuine one. Someone who thinks thats how morality works literally can't be good. They can only performatively look good. It turns every good act they do into what they call "virtue signalling". It utterly destroys the idea of a genuinely good deed/thought. Of course, that god being a projection of themselves, they really do have a moral compass and create their own morals, they just live in denial.
@@tomitiustritus6672 Abrahamic religions also twisted justice into revenge. The suffering of punishment isn’t what makes justice, punishment is a tool that is ONLY to be used when nothing besides suffering can motivate someone to fix their mistakes and become a better person.
Of course, it's human nature. You cannot honestly tell me that when you were a kid and you broke something or whatever, you didn't tell your parents it wasn't you. It's not just Christians.
Lucifer: "And the mortals! I ask you *why*? Tell me that, why?" Dream: "Why what, first among the fallen?" Lucifer: "Why do they blame *me* for all *their* failings? They use my name as if I spend my entire day sitting on their shoulders, forcing them to commit acts they would otherwise find repulsive. "The devil made me do it!" I have never made one of them do any thing. Never. They live their own tiny lives, I do not live their lives for them."
As someone who wasn’t raised in a religious household, seeing some of that religious programming for kids is absolutely horrifying and intensely creepy. I’d never heard that whole “Watch what you hear” shit
Holy shit, yeah. I grew up naturally agnostic and THEN got introduced to religious programming for kids. Even VeggieTales pushes it for me. The videos always have a tone of "I'm behind you with a knife to your throat so you better do what I say" vibe to them. It's just so forceful, like kids don't have their own ideas, thoughts, feelings, or beliefs that are just as valid as yours. Yikes.
I grew up in it and became an atheist more recently. Frankly, it's terrifying now realizing the kind of indoctrination that goes on and that I was exposed to.
Really helps you see why evangelicals have become so susceptible to propaganda. Once the GOP and the far right managed to cement themselves as the party and ideology of traditional Christian values, a lot of Christians completely tuned out all other perspectives. Add in the way the algorithms of UA-cam and a lot of social media sites work, and you've got the perfect ingredients for a really scary echo chamber. New perspectives stop being something new to question and consider, because anything that makes you doubt your faith even for a second is the devil trying to damn you. If you're an evangelical reading this, or any one of the numerous groups of disillusioned and disenfranchised people that the far right is courting, please remember that you can keep your faith or whatever specific thing/space it is where you find happiness without giving yourself over to a fanatical or cult-like group. Anyone who tells you to listen only to them doesn't have your best interest at heart, any time you're told not to question you should do so, and anyone who tells you that the only way to escape persecution is to persecute others is not someone who is interested in making things better for you or anyone else. Edit: And that applies regardless of what ideology or political group is slinging the shit.
@@NobodyCares56 As a christain, I agree. The church has become far too corrupt, controlling, and politicly influenced. I would become catholic as they seem at least somewhat sane (outside of the priest scandles, you know the ones) but I strongly disagree with the worship of saints as I find. that crap insanely heretical, so yeah. I pretty have no church to go to that would accept me for who I am, so I just make my own body God's church and listen to what God (and highly learned biblical scholars with decades of expertise) says, not what know-it-all billionaire pastors say as they're paid millions by the GOP elites to preach what is basically propaganda and claim it's religeous, and even the government goes after them for obvious tax fraud, they claim that it's "religeous discrimination" and they get away with it every time while they send off LGBT kids to laos or something without their consent to be violently tortured 10,000 miles away from everyone they know on a remote pasific island. Disgusting.
"He's looking down with love, so be careful" sounds almost indistinguishable from "he doesn't _want_ to hurt you, but you provoke him, so you have no-one to blame but yourself."
It’s also so deeply authoritarian. I grew up Mormon and was so used to the concept that it only occurred to me after I left, but the idea that God is constantly watching you is the ultimate surveillance-state authoritarianism.
I mean…..yes. And it’s that way by design. The entire Old Testament is filled with stories of god and his followers committing ACTUAL genocide but it being hand waved away with the explanation of “they didn’t believe in god and were bad. If that’s the case, god forgives the murder of thousands of innocents because he is vengeful towards those who don’t follow his laws. And you will suffer the same fate if you defy me, your parent, little Timmy…”
I remember buying a legend of zelda art book and my parents found it and tore all the pages out while making me repent for buying such a 'sinful' book. It really hurt looking back and they wonder why I'm so secretive around them
I’m so sorry you went through that. My children love love love Legends of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. It’s the reason we eventually bought a Nintendo Switch. My heart breaks for you.
Your parents are horrible people who have crimes they need to answer for like the blasphemous sinners who use God's name to commit random acts of cruelty that they are. Have they ever once considered how they would feel if some random person did that to a Holy Bible? You should really confront them & tell them that they need to apologize for their crimes & everything that I just told you.
The Simpson's only sin was questioning a world that was legit half raised to never question itself. I don't think the kids realize just how hard script has flipped in the last 30 years.
It's so many things. When the simpsons came out, the stuff on at the same time was stuff like Family Matters (I can't remember if that actually came out first), stuff that made people feel good, and depicted nothing less than healthy, wealthy, stable families. It was borderline They Live propaganda, trying to teach people how to think. The Simpsons came along with a view of a _real_ american household: unplanned pregnancies, lazy, overweight dads, overworked housewives, untalented children, underfunded schools, and the dreaded "damn" word. It shook feathers because it dared to show a family that wasn't _perfect._ It resonated because it gave people an outlet. Over time, their quality of life slowly got better, and the viewers got worse, until they synched up in the golden age of the simpsons. Nowadays, the writing is very easygoing and inoffensive, but everyone is in a far worse situation, so we hate it now, because it's no longer relatable.
The "Hey, this is actually a really moral and good show" line isn't a con. A lot of Simpsons episodes follow a structure of a simple morality play: Homer does something lazy or greedy, or Bart does something "bad" or outrageous, an unlikely disaster ensues and drives the plot of the episode, with an obvious "Don't do that" moral to it. But just... the presentation was so shocking at the time, I guess?
What's funny about the Simpsons that in the late 80s Homer was considered to be a loser for barely being able to get by supporting his family. These days, that "loser" life - where he has a two story house and supports a wife + 3 kids on a single income - is now out of reach for most milennials and zoomers .
Funny story on the Harry Potter bit. I'd describe my father as "Evangelical Catholic", in that he gets the majority of his spiritual guidance from the Catholic Church, but gets his ideas on how to apply them to the world from Fox News. So he used to have Priests over for dinner regularly to get us feeling comfortable and more familiar with them. When Harry Potter drops, I (the son who loves fantasy, mythology, and at the time had a similar enthusiasm for Religion) am in a little feud with my father. I was only about twelve but had read about witchcraft and sorcery and pointed out to my father that Harry Potter does neither of those by Christian definitions. Harry and his friends never swear allegiance to the Devil, they never summon spirits, they don't do any of those things; I said they were more like Mutants from X-Men or other superheroes who are just born with powers. If God didn't want them to have powers, they simply wouldn't have them. My father was dismissive and tried to argue that the messaging of the books (which he never read or watched the films) was Satanic. So, we've got this Priest over and at one point, I ask him "Do you think Harry Potter is Satanic or Evil?" He asks me to clarify a bit, and I explained the little argument, in front of my father. The Priest just kind of shrugged and said "You make some interesting points, and from what I've seen of the films they're actually quite Christian. They depict forces of light attacking and defeating a central evil figure and his forces of darkness." All my dad did was grumble since he believed Church hierarchy was set. Now I'm older and those illusions have broken down, of course. Still, it's one of the funnier stories. Another similar one was my father tried to get me to stop watching Family Guy by saying that Seth (MacFarlane) was derived from the same word root as Satan. Asked a Priest and he was like "Nah, Seth is the name of one of Adam and Eve's sons." I still give him shit for that. At least my father never forbade me from doing things, just frowned on them and irritated me about them. So to use his kind of wording, "I'll count my blessings".
Great stories, Maso. We used to have priests over to our house as well. Funny thing: neither of the two priests I remember most at our house belong to the priesthood anymore. One (the one my friends and I thought was cute) left the church entirely and became a medical doctor. The other is still a conservative Catholic, but married with a bunch of kids, most of whom are grown by now. Several years ago I got into some deeply disturbing arguments with him on Facebook. He was advocating for hitting children as punishment to keep them in line. He also said that the priests who sexually abuse children often weren’t doing anything wrong because the children they were victimizing were “post-pubescent.” Furthermore, it was all the fault of progressives in the church in the first place. On the topic of Catholic dads, not fathers, I was recently dismayed when my sibling was badly injured in a car accident, needed a personal injury lawyer, and my Dad disdained the best one because the guy had helped to sue a Catholic diocese for its role is child sexual abuse. That has nothing to do with the topics at hand. It just helps to write and talk about it. Apparently my Dad really doesn’t care about protecting children. The church is his first priority. I think that is the crux of the problem with Christians blubbering on about “family values.” In reality they shove their institutions between parents and children. They certainly are hell-bent on standing between my parents and those of their children who left the church (and who never even remotely considered following the Republican Party).
My cousin was a preacher who wouldn't let his kids in high school and college watch or read the Harry Potter franchise or watch Ellen on TV, because he thought the former was Satanic and the latter was a lesbian. He thought it was the End Time because Harry got a movie and Ellen got a talk show, lol! He also called my gay press magazines "the Devil's books," lol! 😆😅🤣😂😄
@Jennifer Reyes Thanks for your comment. I learned this in my psychology classes, but it's very valuable to hear someone's actual experience on this. I hope you're better now 🤗
@@heftymagic4814 I never said anything about Orwell, I just cited a psychological fact. But yeah, it's great your "father in heaven" punishes us for things we can't control, thought crimes, and for the way he supposedly made us. Good thing he doesn't exist.
@@heftymagic4814 Actually, according to the source material, the Christian God doesn't judge you based on your morality, He judges based on His own mercurial whims. In some cases He punishes minor slights with terrible retribution, and in other cases He allows entire nations of His chosen people to endure hundreds of years of slavery. Surely you don't want to be on His bad side like those Pharisees and Sudducees who just would not ever shut up about the written word. Surely instead it'd be best to follow the example of Christ, who broke bread with whores and street thugs, but I think that'd require you to let them into your heart and potentially even see or hear them; God forbid.
I hate how these double standards have managed to reach my family in the Philippines. My mom would both encourage me as a kid writer to become like Christopher Paolini of Eragon fame but at the same time wouldn’t allow me to read Eragon because it contained dragons Gaslighting sucks
@@the3dluxe53 All mythical creatures are evil because they come from pagan cultures and paganism=witchcraft. Also, dragons "look" like demons and spew fire which is, obviously, hellfire so they're basically demons. They've always got a way to connect something to witchcraft & the devil no matter how innocuous it may seem.
@@the3dluxe53 To be totally fair, there's magic in the books anyway. So they're double evil! Another fun fact while everyone's talking about Eragon: They're an almost exact duplicate of the original star wars trilogy, nearly beat for beat.
This whole thing about even thinking bad thoughts being some sort of sin is just horrible for some folks. I have OCD so a lot of my thoughts are literally uncontrollable. No matter what I do I can't stop myself from experiencing "immoral" thoughts, I can only control how I react to them
We get all sorts of crazy thoughts up there. Just gotta be confident in yourself enough to know which thoughts are genuine, not try and block out what you are told is wrong.
Guys, everyone gets thoughts and emotions. We can not control what turns up in our heads. Sure there's meditation etc to learn to stop thinking, but it doesn't give you control over the thoughts your brain creates.
@@JayMaverick You're right, it's a totally natural process. But conservative Christians have often been against things that happen naturally, like having a sex drive.
There's a helpful little phrase that I remember whenever I find myself worrying about intrusive thoughts, though who said it eludes me at the moment: "You can't control the first thought that comes into your head, but you can control the second." Dunno how effective this will be for you, but I hope this helps at least a little bit.
One of the symptoms of my ocd is intrusive thoughts, so when I was taught over and over again that I controlled every thought I have is a reflection of the morality of my heart really fucked me up for a while... at least now I know it’s just mental illness lol
It's another example of how christians are completely out of touch with anything related to the physiology of a normal human being. No, you do not "control all your thoughts". Your brain does a lot of stuff without you thinking about it, and intrusive thoughts are not demons, nor are they a sign you're being "unfaithful". They're just a perfectly normal process. Sometimes they're related to anxiety or stress, sometimes they're a chemical imbalance, and most of the time, they just happen just because. Hell, take a look at practical meditation. The first thing your taught is to _not_ attempt to police your thoughts, just take note of them.
I have the same thing, and the clips in this video reminded me of how much I hate hearing people say that you can control your thoughts and that those thoughts determine who you are and how you behave. It used to really mess with me to hear shit like that, especially when it was from therapists. I even had a psychologist try and say my intrusive thoughts were evidence that I lacked empathy and that I had antisocial personality disorder (I don't). It was so fucked up.
Hi, Parker. I have serious issues with intrusive thoughts, and that stems from my trauma from my “Christian” school that I attended from 6th grade to the 12th grade. The intrusive thoughts come from both OCD and Asperger’s.
That burning CDs/music thing struck hard. Most of the games I enjoyed were deemed satanic, and my mom came home from a nutcase evangelical spiritual meeting and had me cut all my discs in front of her. She's not as radical now, but the pain is still there. She doesn't realize how traumatizing it was considering how that media was the only thing keeping me sane when our family was undergoing turmoil (Dad's infidelity and financial issues) and I was experiencing bullying at school.
I'm reminded how the Nazis burned "All is Quiet on the Western Front" for promoting "dangerous subversive ideas" to the German people, such as war is hell. After all, to the Nazis, "Gott mit uns".
Same here. I didn't go through that specifically, but coming home from school only to find out mom had thrown out my Pokemon cards, or that I was no longer allowed to watch certain shows I loved (I still remember sneaking into the basement to watch Sailor Moon), and later that I wasn't allowed to spend time online - which had the only social circle I felt comfortable in after numerous moves, dad's death and mom's abrupt remarriage to a guy with misunderstood mental illness and two kids from a previous marriage to integrate into the family - all left their mark. I still struggle with swinging into mindsets where I can't understand a relationship with God without throwing out anything in my house not strictly related to Christianity, and that nearly included a dear friendship a few times. I know a lot of Christians in my current church who swing into the same mindset as adults when they're stressed, and even more who seem to delight in educating those of us who grew up in those households on the pop culture we never got exposed to. My mom has offered to help me pay my therapy bills if I can't afford to continue. I'm not sure she'll ever understand, but that's what my therapist is for lol, and I deeply appreciate her support and her openness to mental health issues.
When my mom remarried, my stepdad took everything away from me he considered “evil”; but I doubled-down on Pokémon because I was a fan for 5 years and loved it. I threatened him that I would hate him for all eternity and stop believing in God altogether if you banned Pokémon. I was allowed to keep Pokémon and only Pokémon until college.
My fan theory is that Doom Guy is actually an angel (or metaphor for one or whatever). His fortress in Doom Eternal is very, very reminiscent of a Catholic cathedral when you view it from the outside. Plus he literally comes down from the heavens in order to fight the forces of Hell so.....
Jesus is all about love and forgiveness, Doom Slayer is all about righteous fury and destruction. He leaves the saving to Jesus, he’s too busy ripping demons apart.
I talked with another atheist about atheist-youtube-channel and we came to the conclusion that it may be time to change ways: Atheists dont have this 'Urge to spread the word', that religious channel have. This is understandble but negative. Negative but understandable. Maybe we Atheists should start promoting Atheism more, is what we came to think.
We had tons of inconsistent b.s. re: magic, violence, sex... I remember my oldest brother having to practically write an essay to my mom about why "Kiki's Delivery Service" wasn't about witchcraft at all, and was furthermore an enriching and wholesome story more than fit for children. It was the first movie I snuck and watched, knowing my mother would have made me turn it off if she'd caught me. I'm super grateful I get to curate my own media now that I'm an adult.
I’m so sorry for laughing for five minutes straight about the idea of a little kid sneaking behind their parents’ back to watch a forbidden movie… and it’s *Kiki’s Delivery Service*…
Yeah I didn't get to watch Kiki's until I was 22 when they were doing an anime viewing marathon at the local theater. The thought of a witch protagonist just really bothered my parents that much....I pretty much forgot that movie existed until my friends brought it up and took me to see it. It's one of my favorite Studio Ghibli movies now :) really wholesome. I'll make sure my kids get the opportunity to enjoy it too. I'm grateful my friends still love to play games and stuff because it gives me a chance to enjoy things I was banned from being part of as a kid.
@@asmodiusjones9563 If you think that’s bad, back in 2008 my little brother snuck in to see the movie Meet The Spartans. When our nosy parents found out, they grounded him for a month. I was just a teenager at the time and I never went and saw the movie so I didn’t really have an opinion on the situation either way and was pretty indifferent to the whole “controversy” in our family but Reading in the comment section that someone snuck in to see the movie Kiki’s delivery service reminded me of my brother doing something very similar as I mentioned in the story I just told. I haven’t thought about that incident in many years until I read this part of the comment section but that it reminds me of that incident I realize that my parents overreaction to a kid just being a kid and on top of that to snoop around until they had confirmed it, combined their overreaction to a cheep poorly made unfunny satire movie says a lot more about them than it does my brother. For fucks sake! They were acting like he was doing porn or drugs or some shit! It was a fucking movie and not even a good one and to the ground him like that for a fucking month!? And I think that’s why they were mad that he went and saw it without telling them because that implies there’s something wrong with their parenting if one of their kids has to sneak in to see a third rate comedy. My parents have since mellowed out a little bit more (though every once in a while they can still be obnoxiously knee-jerk in over reacting to anything they don’t understand, ESPECIALLY my mother) since then but looking back I can’t help but feel sorry for my younger brother because it wasn’t fair and it wasn’t right to have such disproportionate retribution self righteously visited upon him to be grounded for a fucking month by the kind of parents who at the time still believed that Harry Potter and dungeons and dragons was evil. As a quick disclaimer they’ve VERY SLOWLY come to their senses about how much of an overreaction that as well as the satanic panic of the 80s was to so... better late than never I guess! 🤣
I went to a youth group retreat around 2002 and a speaker said: “It’s scientifically proven that music is the only thing that can enter your soul without your permission.”
If God is like how those Evangelics believe (petty, judgemental, spiteful) then he is similar to an abbusive father. After all, "do as I say and you get my love, don't and you get punished" is very similar. So much for "unconditional love" that they preach so much.
@@troyjardine5850 Thanks--I am doing much better. I mention it because I know others like me will watch this video and it's good for all of us to know we aren't isolated.
@@FirstOfTheYear777 Anger is a normal, healthy reaction to being taught to fear your own mind. A good therapist (one familiar with the nuances of religious abuse) can help you find healthy expression for it. It's helped me a lot.
I remember coming back to my mom after a while and finally asking, "Why wasn't I allowed to watch Sabrina the Teenage Witch but Bewitched was okay?" and she just sat there a moment and finally admitted that it was because she watched Bewitched growing up. We then had a beat of silence that was just a moment of mutual acknowledgement that her rule had been arbitrary and not based in biblical teaching and we went on with our day.
I feel this can be affable to people saying drag queens are "coRrupTiNg ThE YoUtHs" but how many of those SOBS watched Bugs Bunny dress up like a chick in every other Looney Tunes cartoon and still turned out straight
11:15 I used to be so sexually repressed bc I was constantly told "don't think about sex it's a sin!" To a point where as a hormonal teenager, I literally couldn't pay attention to the church service bc I was constantly having intrusive sexual thoughts and constantly trying to shoot them down. Lol
I remember feeling guilty about dreaming about having sex with my favorite celebrity! Now I realize that I was being ridiculous over a dream that would never become a reality anyway!
I always loved The Simpsons for being the only show at the time to realistically jab at christianity, the faults of it, and the point of view of how children view it. Our expended family were always the Flanders type so the show was definitely more relatable in that point too.
Yes, but one of the great things about the Simpsons is the moral ambiguity, the shades of grey. Flanders is also an exceedingly kind, caring person who would go the extra mile.
Yeah, Yet It managed to be fair in the portrayal of christians. The episode where his wife dies was great too, because It showed a christian in mourning, in faith crisis and ultimately how the bible can still bring comfort to some people. Pretty unbiased take if you ask me, I loved that episode as a kid.
If UA-cam ads are like other internet advertising, they have to pay more if you interact with the ad. I always make sure to click on PragerU ads, and I clicked on every Trump ad I saw.
when I was 12ish, I felt very guilty about my intrusive thoughts and read a daily devotional which advised me to make an oath not to watch anything that included 'sexually impure' content. I refused to watch a lot of media for the next 2 years and wouldn't watch "Brave" with my family because a Focus on the Family review said that it included nudity (the mother woke up naked in a field, under a blanket, having transformed from bear to a human). aside from that, I tried to completely police my thoughts during that time, even apologizing to several people I was close to for "accidentally thinking a 'bad' thing about them", praying that God would forgive me of all the thoughtcrimes I didn't intend, etc. turns out I was having symptoms of anxiety which absolutely worsened due to these beliefs, it has been a long process since of unchaining myself from it all and I can finally say that I feel free in my own mind (aside from bouts of now-managed anxiety/depression)
@@GracUntoYou perhaps it is better to question where those thoughts come from, and why you have them. This way instead of a knee jerk reaction to the symptoms, you can reflect and root out the cause of said thoughts. For some the root is anxiety or fear, for others it may be something like OCD. For some it may just be difficult or trying times, and for others it's nothing more than "just a thought". There is no need to police ones thoughts. They exist so that we may explore the depths of our mind, and better understand who we are as individuals.
@@GracUntoYou No, actually. "rebuking" intrusive thoughts is literally the worst thing to do. All of the science around intrusive thoughts indicates that putting any kind of focus on them can intensify anxiety and make the intrusive thoughts worse.
“Grieving the spirit” I remember my parents literally saying I would make the ultimate creator of the universe sad bc of my THOUGHTS I CANT CONTROL DURING MY DEVELOPMENT YEARS
Yeah it's weird. I don't even know where they got the idea that rats were satanic in any way. If anything, snakes are the satanic ones, but not really as snakes are often used as symbolism in the bible to referance evil or Satan, not actual snakes. Don't know why the think the name "splinter" is evil either. It's quite odd.
@@aspitube2515 You know what else was in the old testament? God murdering a group of children. (Kings 22:23) Why the hell did this religion get so far with such horrible actions taken?
@@dryfox11 There’s nothing in Kings 22:23 that has anything to do with the murdering of kids but, yes, he did indeed ordered his people to kill, not just the men, but the woman and the children too... Also, there are a lot of controversies about what the Hebrew verbs could really mean but, that’s not the subject now. Of course that’s a horrible to happen, but in context, one of the 2 widely accepted reasons of why he gave such orders are… *-To spare the woman and children of being raped and abused after the war.* *-To prevent their future generations to take revenge on the jewish people, which would eventually happen when “Saul” (as far as I can remember) disobeyed God.* People back then were brutal, it was probably the only way to take control, still giving free will, to them. And if you were referring to (psalms 137:9): “Happy is the one who takes your babies and smashes them against rocks” This is taken out of context, it’s poetry. It was when the people of Jerusalem were asking God to punish the Edomites. And of course, that was wrong for them to ask something like that. You can read the chapter online, to understand it better, if you want, it’ll only take a minute. The Bible isn’t about the people that surround you. Even after traumatic events (and I know that’s sad, I’m sorry for that), Jesus is there to help you, *for he is merciful and compassionate, slow to get angry, and filled with unfailing love. He is eager to relent and not punish.* And that’s open to everyone now, not just jews. Listen, It’s not about me, nor the others, it’s about you. It’s your choice. But, know, that he’ll always be waiting for you, with open arms, ready to hug you.
So while watching this and hearing how just thinking or seeing something non religious is bad i had weird dystopian vibes. but when he said "thought crimes" it was like Orwell himself hit me in the face with a 1984 KG dose of realization. also the "be carefull little eyes" song is something straight out of a horror movie where if you look at the monster it kills you.
Hahaha. Someone used "be carefull little eyes" in a horror game. I never played it myself, but I heard it was a very memeroble use of the song. It wasn't a dystopian horror though. More like a physcological-nightmare horror.
I’m deconstructing. Starting to realise that what I called “conviction “ or “being lead by the spirit” was actually just the fear I’d been fed. Fear that if I did x god would hate me. Its like an abusive relationship...
oof. I was there years ago too. Looking back now, I can say that it was DEFINITELY an abusive relationship. I would beat myself up mentally over the slightest missteps or "wrong thoughts", and the trauma is still lingering there to this day. :(
God loves you! But fear him at every corner and never go against his word ever or do this massive list of “sins” that isn’t real and you’re supposed to guess based on a 2,000 year old game of telephone. Why are they exempt from taxes again?
Yeah, Christain parents are always worried that their child would see messed up stuff, and really, who could blame them? The internet is a messed-up place. Luckily my parents weren't too mad when they found out I was watching p00rn (mostly transformation f3t15h h3nta1) and just told me to do it in private, don't do it too often, and not look at the really bad stuff or go on any actual p00rn websites like The Hub or something. They told me cooming was like alcohol. Good, but only when used in moderation. Very wise words.
My mom worked in the library at a private Christian school. (They sent us there too for education.) During the Scholastic Book Fair the church banned Harry Potter. My mom literally sold the books under the table like contraband.
The fact this channel exists on UA-cam is honestly nuts(in the good way). I’ve never seen Christianity questioned so boldly and intelligently in my life. I’ve just started to question my own faith after years of being indoctrinated and all these points have been things I couldn’t put into words to say to my pastor or parents. Good stuff
Dawkins and Hitchens and Harris did a lot of good groundwork....but it has almost entirely lost the power it once had. And I think for good reason. They broke those doors open....and thank god(?) they did. But NOW....we need content like this. Those 3 guys were _never_ religious....never lived it. From someone who was once on the inside, like many of us were(and some still are), being honest about it in a way no one else can.
Years ago, the whole "questioning religion" thing was really huge on youtube. This used to be everywhere. The problem was that somehow, almost all of these vocal atheists ended up being alt-right nutjobs. (Don't attack me. I'm an atheist.)
I talked with another atheist about atheist-youtube-channel and we came to the conclusion that it may be time to change ways: Atheists dont have this 'urge to spread the word', that religious channel have. This is understandble but negative. Negative but understandable. Maybe we Atheists should start promoting Atheism more, is what we came to think.
Kindness, anti fascism, respect for women, and compassion for people different from you? Yeah, sounds like it might ruin kids’ warmongering Christian indoctrination.
The horrifying thing about the "be careful little eyes" song is it makes it sound like you may accidentally stumble across something in everyday life, but then it would be too late. Just minding my own business when a transgender wizard playing rock n' roll pops out and the damage has been done. After all, everyone on the internet knows, what has been seen, cannot be unseen!
I'm still pretty annoyed that my family told me the colors of the Ninja Turtles and Power Rangers represented demons and new age woo. Seriously. As a man now in my 30's, I regularly mock them for that.
"Represent demons" ....Like _what?_ Is there even a quartet of color-coded demons _in_ the bible? What the hell is the blue demon? And for that matter, weren't all the renaissance artists, for which the turtles are named, christians??
@@potaterjim Consider this: the artists in question were all Catholics. If was assume Rhett is American, then it's likely that he grew up in a Protestant household, and Catholics aren't really well-received in this kind of environment.
I remember first watching Harry Potter when I was 18 and feeling like such a rebel. Also as someone who has anxiety over intrusive thoughts the whole thought policing thing Christians do and “only letting in good thoughts” had me thinking I was an evil person for most of my teenage years. It didn’t help that I was secretly gay either.
only about a year ago did i truly face my religious trauma. it was such a world changing thing. i actually am allowing myself to love myself now. i grew up being told everything was evil including me. gay btw
Glad you are on the up, anyone or thing that tells you you are evil isn't worth listening to and should be removed from your life. Good luck for your future.
I'm trans and had a similar experience. I can't listen to religious music without feeling physically sick, and I don't think I'll ever entirely be ok with Christianity as a whole because of how I was raised to be anything but myself. I'm an atheistic satanist now.
"Sleeping beauty has witches and magic mirrors!" Yeah, and those are the villains of the story. Same in Snow White, they both get horribly killed "Mickey mouse is the wizard himself!" Yeah, and magic goes absolutely haywire and he learns a valuable lesson about tampering with stuff he shouldn't have Do they even watch the-no, you're right, I know they don't.
Also in Harry Potter there are good wizards and bad wizards with a clear distinction between the two. In fact in real life Wiccan practice there's pro-curse witchs, anti-curse witchs, even Christian witch's that practice magic while worshipping God and even people who supposedly work with angels.
@@elizabethsmith7224 Magic kind of goes counter to Church teachings. The Church views magic and such things as acts of God. The church cannot have people claiming acts of God is actually witchcraft from mortal hands. Everything has to be from God. The supernatural is the punishments for sins and the rewards for piousness. All acts of God. Witchcraft and magic goes against all of that. A really interesting view on why the Church might have been so set on burning witches. It wasn't that they were evil. It was that they contested the Church's monopoly on belief.
@@fgrthyjukilo9377 - No. No Church views magic as "Acts of God". God does not use Magic and a Miracle is not Magic. The Real Reason The Bible condemns Witches is due to what they actually Were. They made Drugs basically. This is the Historical Meaning anyway. They made various things that could cause Hallucinations, Elevation or decline in Mood, even Kill You. But, they were not doing so with "Magic: as We define the term. or was it medical, which at the Time would be handled by The Levite Priesthood. (Or Locally in Tribes as Travel was Harder.) Magic is said to not exist in Christian Theology. Modern Neo-Pagan Witches are something that took the watered down Caricatures that developed after the Enlightenment mocked Christianity for the Early Modern witch Hunts. Which are now further obscured by claiming them as from The Middle Ages. In the Middle Ages People said Witches did not Exist, and even in The Early Modern Era it was secular Courts, not Church Courts, that Hear most of the Cases. Even the Witches Hammer by Kramer was rejected by The Church. And the Salem Witch Hunts were stopped By Ministers too, and were Protestant.
@@elizabethsmith7224 - Harry Potter is also Christian Allegory, from a Liberal Christian Perspective, like A Wrinkle In Time. Which should tell You BION is nit entirely Honest.
As someone who lost my best friend because I was so hellbent on keeping witchcraft out of my home, watching it nearly tank my marriage, and still standing firm. Only for a year later, after a deep study of the Christian bible, to come out as atheist, this one cut particularly deep
I was watching The Simpsons with my wife and her very Catholic mother came in and ended up watching 3 episodes and laughing the whole time. She then said "You know I've never watched this show. It is not what I thought it was" Yeah we know haha
I talked with another atheist about atheist-youtube-channel and we came to the conclusion that it may be time to change ways: Atheists dont have this 'Urge to spread the word', that religious channel have. This is understandble but negative. Negative but understandable.
Yeah, church is supper corrupt now. Make your own body and mind the church of the Lord, not some corrupt wordly establishment that cares more about preaching politics than spreading the good word.
@@GracUntoYou Hey, just so you know, posting the same damn comment repeatedly in multiple comment threads counts as spam. Also, why do you think you can convert us? We're beyond aware of how religion fits the BITE model. Especially with your apparently positive stance on brainwashing... The 'T' in 'BITE' stands for 'Thought Control'.
Reminds me of how my main reason of leaving the church was because a youth group leader continually told me that playing rpgs like D&D were akin to witchcraft and I needed to stop. Considering the fact that I was depressed and roleplaying still is one of the things that bring me genuine joy I stopped going to that youth group. I couldn't deal with someone guilting me for something that genuinely kept me alive at that time.
my mom, a Christian, never let my sister and I watch harry potter. if the movies came on the channel we watched, she switched it to her 70s' movies. weird thing is I was raised on disney and magical fantasy stories already...
Ah yes, the story of “the chosen one” who performs miracles and how he must save mankind by sacrificing himself and then returning to defeat evil. What a Satanic story.
I was allowed to watch it & read the books but only when the other kids in the family weren't there as they might learn to use magic spells according to my adopted mother. I was laughing mentally when she said that😂
When I was in high school Disney’s Beauty and the Beast came out and my fellow 16 almost 17 year old friend and I wanted to go to the movies to see it. Her mother made a HUGE deal out of it because it had a witch and witchcraft in it. We snuck off to see it anyway.
Oh my parents also had a problem with the live action Beauty and the Beast, but somehow even worse: There's a gay person in it so to them it had to have been bad
@@annaairahala9462 This is hilarious considering the person in question is hinted at so vaguely that probably nobody would have noticed or considered it intentional if they hadn't made a big deal about it.
Honestly.....I love this channel, it's SO heartfelt and honest and real. As a former born-again end-times obsessed Christian teen....everything on this channel hits CLOSE to home. But sometimes.....it's just terrifying. I'm genuinely worried that Conservative Christians are THIS CLOSE to full on embracing fascism. All they need is a leader with enough charisma and lack of shame to go for it. Oh wait...... Oh shit. Yeah...I worry a lot these days. Yeah, he's out of office. But did the "office" ever really mean anything? Or was it the realization of a latent power they now feel free to wield? Again....I worry a lot. It CAN happen here. I think it is actually. I think it's only starting....
Those people already are fascists & they already are in seats of power like Florida's Governor. They set Biden up to fail so that they could become unstoppable & it is obvious that these conservatives will lead the world to ruin. They just are too powerful & not even assassination will make a difference against these horrible people because of their brainwashed cults.
@@undrwatropium3724 Last time I went to church I think was may in 2022 and they were still talking about him like he is some hero and satan is trying to bring him down plus they were also talking about having men carry guns in the church in case of shooting even though this building was 10 miles out of town in the middle of farmland .... something about untrained people with loaded weapons in a small room with lots of kids running around seemed really dangerous to me
@@undrwatropium3724 I swear, my parents (mostly my dad) were obsessed with Rebel News during the peak of the virus-that-shall-not-be-named.... the organization is closely related to the chinese Falun Gong movement but their commentators are white conservatives perpetuating Christian values. And let me tell you, that news outlet (if you can even call it one) was VERY BIG ON TRUMP, more than Fox even, pretty much hailing him as a savior. I'm so glad my parents snapped out of that phase, but they're still centre-leaning-pretty-darn-right and I worry their propaganda has permanently tainted their worldviews.
That McGee and Me episode really messed with me as a kid. Some really awful, abusive things happened to me as a kid and the things I saw before age 10 would have been rated hard R or NC-17, and the speech of the dad about how the things the kid had seen had forever contaminated his soul just gave me more fuel for why all the bad stuff that happened was really my fault. Fortunately, I have an awesome therapist as an adult and I'm finding that's way more helpful and constructive than anything the church ever told me.
Getting dragged into the principals office in a Christian School because one of his seven children heard you say ‘gee wiz’ and conflated that with ‘Jesus wizard’. The trauma runs deep man...
@@GracUntoYou ta for the micro sermon but it’s very disingenuous to cover over years of social and mental abuse by just waving it away, I think you’d get along with my parents really well.
My parents removed tv and the internet from our home when I was 12. This really hurt me as I was super into the art of video games and wanted to learn to make them. It was a passion of mine. But sadly it only could be a passion at the age of 18. When I left home. Going into the church with my family was a massive change. One that still messes with me.
Every time a youth pastor or whoever said “we all have impure thoughts” but I was like 11 and even then it made my skin crawl, like, “nooo? What kind of impure things do you think about??”
@@nothanks6549 I was a driver for a mental heath live-in care facility. One day I heard "Staff lobby STAT" I asked what was going on, and they said, "Oh that's just [Jane] she pulled her eyeball out again" So I asked why she would do that?" "She read it in The Bible." Fun fact - You can pull your eyeball out, and it is still connected to your optic nerve, so you can stick it back in again, and go on sinning. Cutting off your hand is a little more problematic. Funny The Bible doesn't say anything about cutting off your dick. You would think that that would be at the top of the list. Also, yeah, the GIGO thing. Got that from my youth pastor.
@@Clamski I don't really think that was one of the bits Jesus actually wanted people doing. The guy did a lot of social commentary with his sermons, and I'd always read that this one was him being hyperbolic, with the point being "Why don't you worry about yourselves? If YOU're so concerned about other people sinning and want to keep them pure, but then you start looking at a woman a bit lustfully, maybe YOU should rip your eyes out and throw them into a fire, so that way you never ever sin again with your eyes! Oh yeah, if you sin with your hands, maybe YOU should cut your hands off so you can't sin with your hands again!" He did this a lot around the Pharisees/Sadducees/teachers of the law when they were being particularly dickish.
@@raetekusu1 Jesus only said "right eye and right hand." You mentioned eyes and hands which is plural. So please have a re-read of Matthew 5. I mean I get it. He's not saying do it. He's just saying do it, or you risk eternal damnation. Or you could just wear blinders and ask for forgiveness. What else did Jesus say that you can interpret as you like? Matthew 5:20? Dang, that is a high bar to set. I guess I'm out then
I still remember there was a song on a kids christian music album we had called "Input / Output" and unfortunately, by remember, I mean remember many of the lyrics.
This hit home for me when I grew up. I remember the first time my mom said "If you think of something it is like doing it." And this was when I wrote a friend about a crush I had in middle school back in the days where we wrote notes to our friends on paper, no internet, no cell phones. Late 80s. But I was just telling my friend about a dream I had about my crush kissing me. Just innocent kissing and my mom found the note and guilt trip me as if kissing would lead to sex, rape and pregnancy. And it took 10 years till I stopped feeling guilty thanks to a book called Owning Your Own Shadow: Understanding the Dark Side of the Psyche by Robert A Johnson. And reading that book told me that there is nothing wrong with having dark thoughts and fantasizing about them as long as you don't do them physically. And that religion, especially modern Christian religion, is in extreme denial of their shadow that it will warp their minds. And it clearly shows, there is a reason why a lot of people are leaving the church and religion for this very reason. The church's mask that they show society is cracking and the shadow is showing letting the smart ones leave before it is to damn late. Since I moved out on my own over 25+ years ago I have seen the Christian religion get more and more cult like by the day. Hell when I was a kid my parents would get kicked out of churches because I would ask to many questions. When you have a 9 year old get read a bible passage and is told what it means, but when the 9 year old reads the same passage for themselves and it says nothing about what they where told and they question the Sunday school teacher about it, and in turn find out that the church talks to the parents and the parents have to find a new church because the 9 year old asked an honest question. That was my family with me. I was the 9 year old questioning religion. So when I grew up, got married and moved out, I went on a spiritual journey for myself and ended up being witch in the end because witchcraft and various pagan beliefs made sense to me. Don't get me wrong, I am a firm believer in science. To me magic and spells are real and do work, it is called quantum physics! Especially quantum entanglement. (Believe me if you look up how magic and spells are suppose to work and compare them to quantum physics both of them act the same way.) As for "God" or "Gods" I see those of psychological archetypes of one's own psyche and the collected unconscious of humanity. As for demons, devils, angels and the like, they are a form of energy with a specific frequency like the human soul that we have no clear understanding of yet other than beings from other parallel universes and other dimensions. That is my spiritual beliefs in a nutshell. Is there a God maybe, maybe not. But one thing I do know is modern Christianity has a huge psychological and social shadow that they are pretending that doesn't exist, but it is clearly showing. Like a person denying that their house is on fire and the entire neighborhood is clearly in flames.
ngl, the "be careful little eyes" song low key snatched me back to my childhood in ways I neither expected nor wanted. As did the Magee and me thing. I distinctly remember watching that specific episode as a kid.
Luckily I never watched Magee and Me growing up. The only Christains shows I watched were the original runs of Veggietales and Bibleman both which were low-key good, the latter more debatable than the former. While the messages in Bibleman could be harmful, I never really cared about those growing up and just came for the off-brand lightsaber duels. (I was a huge star wars fan growing up and the lightsaber battles were my favorite part. Episode I was my favorite in the series growing up solely because of the Darth Maul fight and podracing.) And Veggietales was pretty much 99% bible parodies with funny songs so completely harmless.
@@krimsonkatt VeggieTales is still a high key JAM. I follow Phil Vischer on Twitter and MAN am I glad I do, he absolutely calls out a lot of this same nonsense, he blessedly doesn’t subscribe to evangelical/fundamentalist insanity...though he attends an evangelical church? I haven’t worked that one out, but regardless, he doesn’t parrot this craziness and for that, I’m forever grateful.
No secular music was a big part of my childhood, so when my dad (a massive Born Again Christian and later an ordained Pastor) introduced me to the band Yes, I thought they were a Christian band because I never heard any curse words and I was conditioned to thinking all my dad listened to was Christian music. It was 5 years later that I learned they were Prog Rock band who's fans were mostly acid tripping hippies that liked to get as high as possible and zone out to the music. Needless to say, I was floored and completely confused why my dad was such a hypocrite, but by then I knew he was a hypocrite about much more than just music.
Close to the Edge, Down by a river! I get up! I get down! I love Yes, and even though he was a massive hypocrite your dad at least introduced you to one good thing.
To be totally fair, christianity isn't the major contributing factor to why it's a mess, at least right now. But they're doing their damndest to keep it broken
Honestly.....I love this channel, it's SO heartfelt and honest and real. As a former born-again end-times obsessed Christian teen....everything on this channel hits CLOSE to home. But sometimes.....it's just terrifying. I'm genuinely worried that Conservative Christians are THIS CLOSE to full on embracing fascism. All they need is a leader with enough charisma and lack of shame to go for it. Oh wait...... Oh shit. Yeah...I worry a lot these days. Yeah, he's out of office. But did the "office" ever really mean anything? Or was it the realization of a latent power they now feel free to wield? Again....I worry a lot. It CAN happen here. I think it is actually. I think it's only starting....
I relate to this so much. Growing up it seemed like whenever I was REALLY interested in something, a game, a tv series, a book, there was always some reason why that thing was particularly bad and I couldn’t enjoy it anymore. I mean FFS we weren’t allowed to watch Shrek when it came out because implies Bible stories are fairy tales...
@@ethancox9737 It didn't. That never happened. Shrek never even mentions christianity outside of the church at the end and the catholic wedding rites, but those things have been largely secularized by society despite their highly religeous nature so yeah. Instead, I wasn't allowed to watch Shrek as a kid because my Dad thought it was inappropriate and "too adult" when similar jokes happened in Pixar movies like Toy Story and Cars and yet he didn't care. Probably Mandella effect lol. Maybe my dad came from another timeline where Shrek was much more vulgar and was PG13?
@@krimsonkatt well, the talking donkey is a story from the Bible and one of the “fairy tale creatures” that lord farquad was trying to round up. There is also a scene where Fiona hides her ogre form inside a tomb with a large stone, which appears to be a reference to Jesus’ tomb. Seems small but it was enough 🤷🏻♂️
One of the movies I wasn’t allowed to watch was Sinbad. ‘Sin’ ‘bad’🤦🏻 finally watched it in art school one night and immediately called my mom just to yell at her.
@@help4343 why indeed. Really it was just because she thought the animation style was 'degenerate.' I wasn't allowed to watch most cartoons because they had 'degenerate' animation. Really anything from Picasso onward was 'degenerate.' My mom the art critic. 😆
My parents were the same. Simpsons, Nightmare Before Christmas and Harry Potter were some of the examples that we weren’t allowed to watch growing up, but of course that didn’t stop me from sneaking into the living room to watch them when they on tv.
@@nothanks6549 Isn't it nuts how being raised christian usually teaches kids to just not talk to our parents about the things we like it want to watch, for fear it will also be banned like so many other things. No one lies better than a christian kid.
When I was in Kindergarten or 1st Grade, there was this teddy bear we'd trade off taking home this teddy bear, and the parents would help write up what we did that weekend with the bear. One of the things my father and I wrote down was, "We watched Nightmare Before Christmas" which was new to VHS at the time. Well, my mom got off work and saw what we wrote and freaked out. 25 years later, turns out my mom actually loves that movie.
Yep... so many Disney movies we couldn’t watch because they had witches and magic and stuff; meanwhile we could watch Pepe the skunk or whatever-which always made me feel kinda icky-and/or various other cartoons where they always tried to hurt each other and blow things up ‘n stuff. And Harry Potter movies? I remember when it was the books popular cause of them and I couldn’t so much as glance at them on display at stores a brief second without my bros tattling on me. As soon as I was given my own laptop by someone at 17 for /writing/... I watched so many movies on it lol. Well. When my parents weren’t in the room and didn’t disconnect the internet, anyway.
Thank you for these videos. I am currently in therapy because these toxic religious teachings made me think ALL SEX was a sin. These videos opened my little eyes!!
I would love a video where you go more in depth on the thought policing aspect of Christianity. As someone with OCD, it wasn't helpful being taught as a kid that every thought that went through my head reflected on me as a person.
Yessssssss. I wasn't even raised very religiously, but this affected me, too. I have a lot of trauma from having disturbing intrusive thoughts, and then believing those thoughts made me a bad person, or that because I was thinking of a scary thing, that meant I would do it. It's terrifying to believe you don't have any control of your own mind and body, and it really fucks with your self image. Thankfully, medication and therapy have helped me get rid of the more upsetting thoughts, and gain more control over them in general.
I remember I had a friend who wasn't allowed to watch Master's of the Universe because it was "evil". When she was in her 20s she final watched and said "Wow. That's justs dumb. This is what my mom was scared of?"
@@johnoconnell5004 perhaps it's because Prince Adam says that when he transforms into He-Man he becomes the most powerful man in the universe. I think some Christians group may find it sacrilegious, but to me it's sounds ridiculous
My family is basically all atheists, but when I was young and my parents were in the military we briefly lived with another family that was Christian and had a lot of rules for their kids on what they could watch. Definitely led to some awkward moments because the only show I wasn't allowed to watch was Veggie Tales, which was the only cartoon the other kids could.
That's pretty weird. Veggie Tales is not only a good cartoon, but also a show that could be seen in even the strictest Christian households. I'm glad Veggie Tales was a part of my childhood.
@@The-Opium-DenI think OP meant because their family were atheists, they didn’t let them watch Veggietales because it was religious but let them watch anything else. When they met the Fundamentalist Christian family, that was the only thing they let their kids watch. So when he visited them, it felt awkward.
@@carlosalmonacid8958 Still seems strange to me, but I suppose when you put it that way it makes sense. Never thought Veggie Tales could offend anyone on account of being a religious show alone, but I suppose the overarching theme may rub some people the wrong way.
Whenever I hear someone say that they won't believe something because "It's a theory", I get frustrated because it displays a complete lack of understanding of how science works and makes apparent how important it is for people to not be isolated from the truth because of religion.
Id like to see observable proof for macroevolution before i accept it as true. Microscopic changes from generation to generation is proven and quite logical. But the changing of one biblical ”kind” to another has not been proven to be possible but is only assumed.
@@BlurpGooDiJabba maybe there's no proof of a biblical kind changing, because biblical kinds aren't a thing? The bible was written by people who didn't understand evolution or adaptations on any level, so they did their best. Let's not forget that Evolution was discovered and defined by an incredibly devout christian. Also yes, Macroevolution does have an unbelievable amount of proof, Evolution is one of, if not the single most solidly proven concepts in all of science. We have more evidence of it than almost anything else in existence. If you can't accept, or understand that because it conflicts with your world view then that is a you problem.
@@BlurpGooDiJabba There are dozens if not hundreds of thousands of books, studies, videos, essays, that are right at the tip of your fingers from any Google search, trip to the library, science apps and magazines, teachers etc etc. It's not my job to teach you basic concepts, anymore than it's my job to show you why 2+2 = 4. Look it up, I'm a random fuck texting you at work I'm not going out of my way to find you evidence when you can do it yourself in less than an hour.
I think the reason I love this channel so much is because it gives me a perspective on people who were raised so opposite the way I was raised. My mom let me explore whatever beliefs I wanted to, and be the person who I wanted to be. She never kept a tight leash on me or strict rules, but I also didn't break her trust by doing anything too crazy, most the time. It just blows my mind every time I hear stories from people that live sheltered lives or had heavy restrictions on what they could or couldn't do or watch. A friend of mine hadn't seen Harry Potter or Avatar The last Airbender or a lot of other media for these exact reasons. Introducing her to Avatar The last Airbender and seeing how much she loved it was so enjoyable for both of us, It sucks that some people didn't have the chance to experience shows like that when they were growing up.
My Old Pastor had a long series on why rock is so Evil while admitting that he has listened to it in private or going out to eat with him and he has fun while playing name that tune. And I know he misses smoking pot but will preach hard against it.
The last time I spoke to my biological father, he had quit media. I wasn't really sure what he meant, but it turned out that he... Quit watching TV and movies (which he used to love) and possibly video games. He had, however, continued watching "Christian" movies and "Christian" produced series, and the only music he listens to is "Christian." I'm not an expert in Christianity or in the word of God or anything but I seriously don't know if there's a part of the Bible where Jesus tells Matt to stop reading books and watching performances. I know Jesus said to drop your life but he didn't say to move into the church.
Cognitive Dissonance is powerful, somewhere in that shell is probably a frightened man being forced into this position, maybe by himself or external forces. Religion is quite an unfortunate thing.
That's such a damn shame cuz your pastor actually seems like a really cool guy. If only he didn't have the yoke of authoritarian theology over him, he'd probably be one of those Rastafarian preachers.
I was raised evangelical in the 80's, when the whole Satanic Panic was in full bloom, and one of the favorite targets of evangelicals then was Dungeons and Dragons. I can't remember how many times we were warned of the "dangers" of D&D and how it turned people into devil worshiping drug addicts. And of course, MTV, back when it actually played music videos. I had to do the same thing you had to do to watch the Simpsons. Stay near a window to make sure I could turn the channel and TV off when my grandma got home.
Love your content brotha! My wife grew up in a very religious home and these essays have really helped me better empathize and understand her experience.
I dunno if I believe that, but hey, I do believe that violent media helps kids mature faster, if only because they're being exposed to broader subjects. So I guess I agree with him!
Sounds like a great way to glorify violence. I know that makes me sound like a preacher but damn, it creeps me out how much we love violent media in this country sometimes.
It's like one of those parody conspiracy theories, but in this instance it's kind of sad because the speaker was actually touting Fantasia's whimsy as occult lmao
I love how these people rave about cults when they meet all the hallmarks of a cult. Also my aunt doesn't let her kids watch Harry Potter because of the magic, but she loooooovesssssss Chronicles of Narnia. AND even LORD OF THE RINGS is a family CLASSIC. What the F- How do these people not hear themselves being so ridiculous?
This video and discussion have me wondering: Am I being hypocritical by not foisting Narnia on my kids because of its drippy Christian allegory? My mother has been trying to get my kids interested, but when I told them it was Christian, they demurred. I myself loved the books as a kid and read each one two or three times, but I don’t particularly miss them. My oldest was absolutely devoted to Harry Potter when she was younger. On an unrelated note: for a rollicking good time free of any deeper purpose, my favorites are the audiobook versions of How to Train Your Dragon, read by David Tennant. The series is just so much fun and silliness, and nothing like the movies, which are sweet in their own right but just completely different.
@@pechaa i think the problem with the narnia franchise is that all their lore is basically a christian allegory, and it means few child could empatize with the worldbuilding at the degree where is easier to find harry potter OC's than narnians in deviantart...
To be fair, I imagine many religions would score rather high on certain portions of the the BITE model. Behavior Control Information Control Thought Control Emotional Control And some score really high in all of these categories.
I know I’m late, but I have an answer! Both C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien are Christians, and all of their writings have Biblical undertones to them, particularly in regards to evil and using evil powers. Many communities love the fact that is warns children away from interacting with black magic, instead of tempting them with it. On the other hand, Rowling was influenced by Freemasonry and, somewhat, by black magic. Therefore, all of her writings have Masonic and pagan undertones, which teach children that interacting with black magic is neutral, and may benefit them. In Christianity, we are strictly warned to never dabble in the dark arts, and even the human beings who engage in it are to be dealt with because they are infected by it, potentially bringing evil spirits and lost souls into their lives. That is why so many Christians refuse to touch what appears to be evil, for fear of sickness, night terrors, addictions, possession, death, and of course, eternal damnation. Does this answer your question?
I have an older brother, very catholic, 11 years older, who used to be very protective of me when I was a kid. Now I'm in my late 20s and every now and then, when he starts to talk about a 90s movie he liked a lot, I had to remind him I don't know what he is talking about, because I never could see that movie, and that he just never gave me permission to see it. It has happened SO MANY times, that I don't get annoyed anymore: lately, I have started telling him "Oh, I never got to see it because I used to had this brother who was a pain in the butt, he never let me see movies!". Several years ago we started to see some of these movies together. He's still a hardcore catholic though.
There were a lot of things I wasn’t allowed to see, listen to, etc. growing up because of this. But my favorite memory like this was when I was at a friends house, we were playing a DBZ game on his PS2, and his mom came in interrogating us about it. Heard the word “dragon” and was like “If Jesus was watching you two play this do you think he’d be happy?” Another time he said “good luck” to me about something and she snapped at him saying “we don’t say or believe in luck.” This shit happened all the time and it was insane. I’m free from most of this stuff now but every now and then the religious guilt of “maybe they were right and watching this stuff set me on the path to ultimately give up my faith”. But I’m well aware at the end of the day it’s just that. Religious guilt. Good luck to anyone out there struggling with similar things. You can overcome your fears and worries. Especially when they’re ultimately rooted in superstition like this. ✌🏻🖤
This is the second time in this comment section I've heard that christians don't like dragons. The hell is up with that?? Shenron doesn't even fit the stereotype "fire breathing, bat winged demon" bill either, not that I assume she would have checked for context. These people are insane
Considering that the Bible talks about dragons along with demons,angels & magic wielding witches as being a real thing trying to reason with these people is pointless😂
Off topic but I’ve always wanted to ask someone this: how do you feel about being named Christian as someone who’s left the religion and presumably has a decent amount of religious trauma? Do you just go by Chris or have you reclaimed your name somewhat?
@@emilybarclay8831 Lol I love this question. I’ve thought about this a lot actually and view it this way. I can specifically make my name mean what I want and it doesn’t have to be associated with the religion automatically. Most people don’t these days anyway. One person I told my name to said “oh like Christian Grey”😂 I basically see it as a power move now. Only religious people tend to hear my name and make that association but most others won’t. So it’s kinda cool. Sometimes I think of a label like “Christian… in name only” Love the question though. Completely fair to ask. Also if it helps, I was named after Christian Slater anyway so religion wasn’t even on my parents mind at the time. TLDR; To answer your question, I more so reclaimed it
@@CAVFIFTEEN I suppose Christian is such a common name thats it’s not necessarily automatically associated with actually _being_ a Christian. I’d imagine an ex Muslim called Islam would have a much harder time of it tho lol
Sometimes I marvel at how liberal a church I went to as a tween, like on youth group night we got to play flashlight tag in the chapel and the only reason our pastor wouldn't let us watch Life of Brian was because of the full frontal nudity. wild
My mother wouldn't let me watch "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" because "It shows Jesus naked!" Now that I've seen all the Python movies, I keep trying to tell her that that was "Life of Brian", but to this day, she doesn't believe me. Odd thing is, she loves at least "Monty Python's Meaning of Life".
@@autobotstarscream765 What I really want to do is convince her to join me on a Let's Play and have her play "Trauma Center: Under the Knife". I'd love to see her reaction when the game basically makes you draw a pentagram. But don't know how I'd be able to keep her away from my content, so that's a no.
To set the tone for the sex education weekend retreat, the youth group leaders put us all on a rug and had us wrestle each other until only one person was left on the rug. Bunch of teenagers crawling all over each other and giggling. Their message for the weekend was that you and your body are important and to remember that when you make choices about sex. I still became an atheist, but one without trauma from my Christian upbringing. There were more extreme congregations from the rural areas in my state, which I had contact with when we met up. They helped me along the path to atheism. They weren’t traumatic *for me*, just off putting.
I think I was about 6 or 7 years old when this happened. There wasn’t any school this day and I heard loud music coming from the living room. It was my mom listening to this preaching from her church. They were preaching about how disney and all sorts of other media is corrupting us and how we’re gonna turn out evil and like the “rest of the world” if we don’t throw everything out of our minds or something. So as my loving mother did for her kids, she started to throw literally every dvd, vhs, video game and console that we had laying in the house. As well as all sorts of disney themed items we had around the house. That day is still fresh in my mind, I’m 24 now. That little era of that whole crazy christian belief died down once I got older. I got my consoles back and my games little by little. I started listening to metal and all sorts of music I liked growing up. Back in 2021 my mom had started going down that rabbit hole again. She’s the type to believe anything that comes from the church now and I started to see little bits of what had happened years ago come back up. History was repeating itself and she started to throw away all the things that weren’t of God. Slowly it spread to my sisters as well and they’re on the boat now. I honestly feel like the black sheep of the family because of my strong stance against their beliefs. I remember a time when my older sister bought herself a new ps5 with some games to play, only to return it 2 weeks later. It’s honestly sad and heartbreaking to see my younger sisters go through this indoctrination of beliefs that my mom and her church puts them through. They shut down any type of argument or any type of opposition as,” oh you’re full of demons or you don’t have enough faith”. My mom would also put us through terrible financial difficulties because in her words, “I put it in the hands of God”. Still struggling till this day, am moving out in the summer so I won’t be trapped here for too long. I don’t have a good relationship with my family because of it.
I remember being a kid and being told the same thing about The Simpsons. I was also later told that The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past was a game designed to lead me to witchcraft.
Ironically, the early design concepts for A Link to the Past had a lot of elements based off Christianity, Nintendo of America made them redo it though because I guess they were afraid that Evangelicals might be offended at it being done wrong or something.
@@mattwolf7698 Nope. LttP always intended for the game to have its own made-up religeon. Early Zelda games (Zelda 1 and 2 on the NES) has Christains symbolism because many other games at the time (like FF1 and Dragon Quest) had similar symbolism. Ever since LTTP the world of Hyrule had had it's own mythology seperate from real world religeons, and the early game's would most likely be retconned if they were ever revisited. Christianity in the east is viewed as very "mystical" and "foreign." That's why a lot of japanese games draw inspiration from christianity, including apothryca like the Talmud, Zohar, the Enouch Books, and the Gnostic Gospels. Some pull this off successfully, (Xenoblade 2, Xenogears, ect) while others fail misirably. (pretty much everything SMT related sans Persona, Xenosaga which literally quotes freaking Da Vinci Code, which is basically modern-day apocrypha and is extremely heretical, and claims it's from the bible, ect)
@@noahbossier1131 You're welcome, but since that comment was from a year ago I've recended most of my statements later in the post. My points about Zelda still stand tho.
No....don't. Not cuz of the devil, but because the "current" version of the game is so absurdly ridiculous that moves take 15 minutes to complete and are single shot wins. Unless you just keep to the OG cards, maybe going up to sync summoning, then you might get some serious fun out of it. But the power creep in yugioh over the years has been real.
I remember many years ago there was this one song called "The Ketchup song" or "Asereje". Use to love that song as a kid, but this one family (was super religious) that was God parents to my sibling told me not to dance to it because it was of the devil, and it really scared me. And a couple months later, during a rainy day my school decided to play some music for us to dance to for indoor play, and sure enough it was the song, and I didn't want to participate. Years later I would over come my fear and re listen to the song and come to find, most of the song they were literally singing gibberish. And I also discovered other songs that were similar sounding that were either people copying off each other, or it was pure coincidence. One done was about the Devil, so maybe people were confused about that song - Don Diablo Then there is, Ragatanga And the oldest and one that I still listen to to this day-$IMARIK and I also found out that the song Levitating by Dua Lipa also has a similar beat. So ya, after all this time I still remember the fear I had as a child. Don't do that to kids.
I love this channel! These video essays feel like a throwback to the early days of UA-cam atheism, when it still felt compassionate and driven by outreach to those in a state of transition. It's media like this that helped me come out on the far side of a fundamentalist upbringing. Keep up the amazing work!
It is so funny that the so-called ungodly content is almost always so much better than so-called godly content. It is due to a passion for filmmaking and great expectation for the casts to do well. In fact, I saw more entertainment in a one-and-a-half-minute clip of Dean and Cassie making love in Supernatural than any of the God's Not Dead movies had to offer.
Same, but still simpsons is easily 13+ plus at least, maybe 14+. It's definitely not appropriate for a little kid to watch, but it's definitely more appropriate and less vulgar than family guy or south park. Though south park is really funny at times, if really offensive and heretical, also at times. But that's all part of the fun and the show doesn't take itself seriously at all (everything is a parody) so yeah.
That’s actually understandable depending on how young you were at the time. Although when I was little I watched it and all the dirty jokes flew over my head lol.
@@NeilRichter It's kind of a mantra? They are repeating this to themselves, not to convince anyone but rather silence invasive thoughts that resonate with the message of this video.
One thing I found interesting when learning about biblical stories in school, was how the teachers kept accidentally legitimizing witchcraft and making it seem plausible. I remember being confused about the Witch of Endor story where she is able to summon the spirit of a deceased prophet and thinking "Wait if sorcery is supposed to be a fabrication/of the devil, how is she able to bring forth a prophet's soul?" Why would a person with 'satan-granted magic' be able to intrude upon what was supposedly God's domain? And the teacher struggled answering why such a thing would be possible because up to that point we've been taught that the devil holds such little power and only miracles/reality breaking events could be achieved by God. In restricting things based upon "satanic influences" it only ends serving to give even more power to the idea of the devil and cause kids to question many things they've been taught up to that point. Instead of the devil just being a symbol of sinful urges/temptation, they make it seem to be like on the same playing field as God in terms of power like great going guys
All points Christians make crumble if one analyzes their consistency in comparison to the Bible. That’s why religions are so heavy on faith and abhor reason and critical thinking. Religion crumbles when we apply logic and reason to it.
@@pansepot1490 I apply logic and reason of christianity, and I see know flaws in the story. I believe in science and stuff, but magick is very much real. I've seen it first hand, both IRL and in the visions I possess of the world beyond. The witch in the story summoned a shade from Sheol using dark magick, namely minor necromancy, which doesn't require that much mana. She didn't actually revive a person, she merely brought forth a projection of Samuel's spirit while he still metaphysically resided in Sheol, also known as Hades, the realm of the dead. All souls not redeemed by Jesus and not pure evil go there when the die to eternally wander until the final judgement. She did not revive him, even temporarily, but she was casting the spell most likely using the life energy of some sort of demon, possibly a local one like Baal or Ashera, as part of a pact she made with the demon where she exchanged something she held dear in exchange for power. (a near infinite supply of mana) Demons are the servants of Lucifer and the other 6 demon lords, so therefore using their power is heresy against the Lord Almighty. Magick comes in three types: anima, which comes from natural forces and reasearch which is used by syphoning power from the elemental plane and using that power to manipulate natural forces such as wind and fire. It is neutral in nature, and is often used for combat using elemental attacks and for providing positive probability results or even for altering the timestream. Then there is Light Magick, which is gained from belief. The most common source of this power is belief in a higher being, but can also be a belief in other things such as friendship or themselves, though it isn't as strong that way. This is the Magick Jesus used, which was granted directly from the True God. Most of the time, Light Magick is inheritly good, and is used to heal and perform miracles. Dark Magick the final type of magick is powered by life energy, either the user's own or the life force of others. It is inherinetly evil, but can be used for good. Overuse of this type of magick can cause great detremental effects to the user like deformation, memory loss, and a heavily decreased lifespan. Use with extreme caution. However, due to the forbidden cloud which has currently been clouding earth since the 1400s, all magick usage is blocked requiring a bond with a supernatural being to use any sort of magick. This is the main reason the majority of modern humanity doesn't believe in magick, as it is extremely rare among humans these days. The being that decides to make a pact is usually a demon since they are more willing to interact with humanity in order to lead them to darkness. More moral or neutral spirits such as angels, elementals, dragons, or the fey prefer to stay away from human affairs unless they have to. The cloud is set to leave the earth's area in 2056, 600 years after the cloud started covering earth (1456) where an alien invasion will occour and the magickal awakening wi occour, beginning earth's final age.
@@obloquious Its the same with groups some people want you to hate, they are simultaneously lazy slobs who mooch on our welfare and hardworking people who will take our jobs. (fascists, nationalists, racists and yes religions all use this logic, we are both better then them, but they are also somehow magically dangerous to us even if we are somehow superior bullshit)
I'm so happy I was raised in two open-minded Christian households (my maternal grandparents were my legal guardians and I would visit my dad every other weekend growing up) that watched horror movies, raunchy comedies, magical fantasies, and violent action films growing up. It wasn't perfect, and I certainly have some religious trauma from the more general Christian culture I grew up in, but around my tween years is when I began to realize my family wasn't very typical in the church and far less restrictive than others, and I really appreciate that.
Imagine purposely depriving yourself of many of the joys you can experience in your limited time on this earth out of fear that there's an omnipotent God who will judge and condemn you for eating "forbidden fruit"? This way of thinking of the world is a recipe for intense anxiety and depression which is the vibe I get whenever i encounter my family that still thinks like this.
I remember being banned from hearing music, watching scary movies, going out, hanging with non-christian friends or doing anything remotely wordly and now that i am a parent myself i let my kid watch anything and be who she wants to be because that's just life, experiencing things and living through this world leads to eventually finding out who you are and what you want with no force or coersion as it should be. I missed many things in this life and am still catching up. Blessing to all my traumatized peeps out there , it gets better!
Props to you for being the better parent! Im lucky enough my parents gave up on controlling everything when I was around 16 so even though I was homeschooled I could use the internet to fill my time. I’ll still never understand how they could be so lacking in empathy or common sense to think controlling all knowledge and social interactions could create a good person
@@charlottesimss9853 Thank you! It is a hard process to unlearn but needs to be done. yes, in all reality I don't even think they thought it through or at all, they were just told and they accepted everything at face value. I'm glad you were let go of that control a bit and I hope you heal for this is really messed up and I hope this cycle never continues beyond us!
I remember learning as a kid that one of our fellow Christian homeschooled families didn’t allow their kids to read Narnia because it was fantasy and just being dumbfounded
Oh yeah, if it's not boring "churchy" stuff, some parents won't allow it even if it does have a religious message. I remember as a 12-year-old having to convince my mother to let me listen to Skillet (a Christian rock band) because it didn't "sound Christian." Luckily my parents (mostly my mom honestly, I don't think my dad ever really cared) have since grown out of this nonsense.
Damn that "guard your heart" song was actually ridiculously catchy though, too bad it's about indoctrination and thought-stopping techniques or I'd be wanting to download it or something
Meh music is about interpretation. I've always viewed "guarding your heart" as protecting yourself from being hurt by people. These "Christians" are posers
That “be careful little eyes” song is just terrifying to me as someone who’s never heard it before. That’s like, cult behavior
And still stuck in my head almost thirty years later.
As a survivor of Evangelical Christianity and someone who grew up singing that song, it is definitely cult behavior
"That's like, cult behavior." As is literally everything about religion. In the words of Caduceus Clay, "All a god is really is a cult with a franchise." ua-cam.com/video/GGQhSkwh2h4/v-deo.htmlh013m049s
@@cryofpaine Hell ya! Critical Roll.
At least being religious in dnd makes sense because the gods actually do things and interact with thier believers.
Well, yes. Christianity is a cult, so that makes sense.
"There's a father up above and he's looking down in love, so be careful little eyes what you see."
Actual Orwellian mentality right there
You know George orwell was in fact a hypocrite who worked for the British state himself.
I guess big brother learned it from father huh?
The entire thing is horrifying, the idea that simply _observing_ something can "contaminate" you and ruin you. Can you imagine these terrified children, constantly worried that they might fuck up and look at the wrong magazine and be damned for all eternity?
Hell, just imagine the state of these people who honestly believe that. That you have something called a "spirit" and just seeing and exposing yourself to stuff will harm it. Things like curse words or witches. All of this stuff clearly came from the pagan-hunting days, it's shocking that these people don't recognize the propaganda at play here.
Yeah, if you stop to think about it... Heaven is the most communist state of all time.
@@potaterjim because we all know that theres no difference between a person who watches gore all day and one who doesn't? Eventually the one who does would likely snap because some things weren't meant for humans to see ALL the time
“Stop learning things. Learning things is dangerous.” yeah, totally good and moral
“Ignorance is bliss” personified.
Limit ur brains and dont have fun
not culty at all
"I don't understand evolution and I must protect my kids from understanding it. We will not give in to the thinkers!" - Some dumb hag on Futurama.
"LEARN A BOOK SETH!!"-Girl You Wish You Never Started a Conversation With At a Party(Cecily Strong SNL).
It never actually stops kids and teenagers to not do the things they told us not too. Just taught us how not to get caught
Us ex Christian kids are some of the best people to be able to hide and sneak about...
Can confirm. I got pretty good at hiding things in the family computer when I was younger. Can't say the same thing about my dad as I unfortunately found out one day...
@@daniel_gallardo808 big oof.
the scary thing is knowing people it DID work on. The % of kids they raise this way that don't break out of the cycle of abuse are what they're counting on.
Reminds me how I'd sneak in "forbidden books" and read them on my PSP because any other fiction book I read that wasn't the bible would prompt my mom to nag me to read the bible. I read the bible from cover to cover thrice which is why I'm now an atheist. 🤷
"careful what you consume" more like "only listen to us, never learn about anything, never experience anything, only obey us"
@@GracUntoYou A long string of words meant to be impressionistic but conveying nothing. Replace God with Allah and see if you still agree. Get over your fear of death and start living for yourself and not an intangible person you have never seen and who never responds.
@@GracUntoYou So wait, then what does it matter even in the slightest what you see or listen to? If god is this unstoppable force and controls everything, then watch all the harry potter and porn (or harry potter porn) you want, none of it matters.
truth..thsnks squirrel
@@GracUntoYou " Knowing this, we know that in all things, everything will always work out." - I love the constant struggle present in the Bible between pre-determination and personal choice. Why should anyone worry about any of their actions if everything will always work out? Why bother with all the guilt?
@@potaterjim Is Harry Potter porn a thing?
“Satan puts thoughts on your head, we call those temptations ...”
This will always be my biggest objection to Christianity: the shifting of blame for shitty behaviour to demons in an invisible spirit realm around us. Christians are conditioned to dodge accountability by blaming invisible monsters.
Never gave that a thought. Adds to my central objections to religion in principle.
1)Overwriting/withering peoples own moral compass by always referring to an arbitrary, orwellian, unquestionable moral authority. Someone with no tools to reflect about ethics is flying blind.
2) By believing moral being objective, absolute and surveilled at any time by that authority, it's turning turning every possible act someome can do into a performance for someone elses eye, instead of a genuine one. Someone who thinks thats how morality works literally can't be good. They can only performatively look good. It turns every good act they do into what they call "virtue signalling". It utterly destroys the idea of a genuinely good deed/thought.
Of course, that god being a projection of themselves, they really do have a moral compass and create their own morals, they just live in denial.
@@tomitiustritus6672 Abrahamic religions also twisted justice into revenge. The suffering of punishment isn’t what makes justice, punishment is a tool that is ONLY to be used when nothing besides suffering can motivate someone to fix their mistakes and become a better person.
Of course, it's human nature. You cannot honestly tell me that when you were a kid and you broke something or whatever, you didn't tell your parents it wasn't you. It's not just Christians.
Lucifer: "And the mortals! I ask you *why*? Tell me that, why?"
Dream: "Why what, first among the fallen?"
Lucifer: "Why do they blame *me* for all *their* failings? They use my name as if I spend my entire day sitting on their shoulders, forcing them to commit acts they would otherwise find repulsive. "The devil made me do it!" I have never made one of them do any thing. Never. They live their own tiny lives, I do not live their lives for them."
That’s a problem
As someone who wasn’t raised in a religious household, seeing some of that religious programming for kids is absolutely horrifying and intensely creepy. I’d never heard that whole “Watch what you hear” shit
It’s pretty damaging and guilt/anxiety inducing. I’m 30 and still working through it
Holy shit, yeah. I grew up naturally agnostic and THEN got introduced to religious programming for kids. Even VeggieTales pushes it for me. The videos always have a tone of "I'm behind you with a knife to your throat so you better do what I say" vibe to them. It's just so forceful, like kids don't have their own ideas, thoughts, feelings, or beliefs that are just as valid as yours. Yikes.
I grew up in it and became an atheist more recently. Frankly, it's terrifying now realizing the kind of indoctrination that goes on and that I was exposed to.
Really helps you see why evangelicals have become so susceptible to propaganda. Once the GOP and the far right managed to cement themselves as the party and ideology of traditional Christian values, a lot of Christians completely tuned out all other perspectives. Add in the way the algorithms of UA-cam and a lot of social media sites work, and you've got the perfect ingredients for a really scary echo chamber. New perspectives stop being something new to question and consider, because anything that makes you doubt your faith even for a second is the devil trying to damn you.
If you're an evangelical reading this, or any one of the numerous groups of disillusioned and disenfranchised people that the far right is courting, please remember that you can keep your faith or whatever specific thing/space it is where you find happiness without giving yourself over to a fanatical or cult-like group. Anyone who tells you to listen only to them doesn't have your best interest at heart, any time you're told not to question you should do so, and anyone who tells you that the only way to escape persecution is to persecute others is not someone who is interested in making things better for you or anyone else.
Edit: And that applies regardless of what ideology or political group is slinging the shit.
@@NobodyCares56 As a christain, I agree. The church has become far too corrupt, controlling, and politicly influenced. I would become catholic as they seem at least somewhat sane (outside of the priest scandles, you know the ones) but I strongly disagree with the worship of saints as I find. that crap insanely heretical, so yeah. I pretty have no church to go to that would accept me for who I am, so I just make my own body God's church and listen to what God (and highly learned biblical scholars with decades of expertise) says, not what know-it-all billionaire pastors say as they're paid millions by the GOP elites to preach what is basically propaganda and claim it's religeous, and even the government goes after them for obvious tax fraud, they claim that it's "religeous discrimination" and they get away with it every time while they send off LGBT kids to laos or something without their consent to be violently tortured 10,000 miles away from everyone they know on a remote pasific island. Disgusting.
"He's looking down with love, so be careful" sounds almost indistinguishable from "he doesn't _want_ to hurt you, but you provoke him, so you have no-one to blame but yourself."
yeah, God sounds scary af lol
It’s also so deeply authoritarian. I grew up Mormon and was so used to the concept that it only occurred to me after I left, but the idea that God is constantly watching you is the ultimate surveillance-state authoritarianism.
@@strangeloveesq makes me think of 1987’s authority figure big brother
I mean…..yes. And it’s that way by design. The entire Old Testament is filled with stories of god and his followers committing ACTUAL genocide but it being hand waved away with the explanation of “they didn’t believe in god and were bad. If that’s the case, god forgives the murder of thousands of innocents because he is vengeful towards those who don’t follow his laws. And you will suffer the same fate if you defy me, your parent, little Timmy…”
Ah yes because being held accountable for your morals is sooooo orwellian. Sorry that not everything you do is approvable by our father in heaven.
I remember buying a legend of zelda art book and my parents found it and tore all the pages out while making me repent for buying such a 'sinful' book. It really hurt looking back and they wonder why I'm so secretive around them
I’m so sorry you went through that. My children love love love Legends of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. It’s the reason we eventually bought a Nintendo Switch. My heart breaks for you.
That’s horrible and disgusting.
Your parents are horrible people who have crimes they need to answer for like the blasphemous sinners who use God's name to commit random acts of cruelty that they are. Have they ever once considered how they would feel if some random person did that to a Holy Bible? You should really confront them & tell them that they need to apologize for their crimes & everything that I just told you.
That’s awful, I’m so sorry
That's ridiculous!!! What exactly was so "sinful" about it?
The Simpsons seems like such a benign show today, it's weird looking back how it was so controversial in the 90s
The Simpson's only sin was questioning a world that was legit half raised to never question itself. I don't think the kids realize just how hard script has flipped in the last 30 years.
The Simpsons seems benign in comparison to today because it opened a gateway and led to the degradation of society. Bush was right.
/sarcasm
It's so many things. When the simpsons came out, the stuff on at the same time was stuff like Family Matters (I can't remember if that actually came out first), stuff that made people feel good, and depicted nothing less than healthy, wealthy, stable families. It was borderline They Live propaganda, trying to teach people how to think. The Simpsons came along with a view of a _real_ american household: unplanned pregnancies, lazy, overweight dads, overworked housewives, untalented children, underfunded schools, and the dreaded "damn" word. It shook feathers because it dared to show a family that wasn't _perfect._
It resonated because it gave people an outlet. Over time, their quality of life slowly got better, and the viewers got worse, until they synched up in the golden age of the simpsons.
Nowadays, the writing is very easygoing and inoffensive, but everyone is in a far worse situation, so we hate it now, because it's no longer relatable.
The "Hey, this is actually a really moral and good show" line isn't a con.
A lot of Simpsons episodes follow a structure of a simple morality play: Homer does something lazy or greedy, or Bart does something "bad" or outrageous, an unlikely disaster ensues and drives the plot of the episode, with an obvious "Don't do that" moral to it.
But just... the presentation was so shocking at the time, I guess?
EVERYTHING was out for shock value in the 90s. That was the decade of Marilyn Manson among other things.
I love how The Simpsons was ever considered "anti-family". I guess at some point when the economy became terrible, they became relatable
What's funny about the Simpsons that in the late 80s Homer was considered to be a loser for barely being able to get by supporting his family. These days, that "loser" life - where he has a two story house and supports a wife + 3 kids on a single income - is now out of reach for most milennials and zoomers .
Lol the Simpsons where Homer regularly strangles his 10 year old son. Such family friendly entertainment.
I guess people were afraid because they were a parody of sitcoms at the time. And you know, change is scary
Satire is lost on the religious right.
Conservatives have no idea what they support or why. Bush 41 told them to hate it so they did.
Funny story on the Harry Potter bit. I'd describe my father as "Evangelical Catholic", in that he gets the majority of his spiritual guidance from the Catholic Church, but gets his ideas on how to apply them to the world from Fox News. So he used to have Priests over for dinner regularly to get us feeling comfortable and more familiar with them.
When Harry Potter drops, I (the son who loves fantasy, mythology, and at the time had a similar enthusiasm for Religion) am in a little feud with my father. I was only about twelve but had read about witchcraft and sorcery and pointed out to my father that Harry Potter does neither of those by Christian definitions. Harry and his friends never swear allegiance to the Devil, they never summon spirits, they don't do any of those things; I said they were more like Mutants from X-Men or other superheroes who are just born with powers. If God didn't want them to have powers, they simply wouldn't have them. My father was dismissive and tried to argue that the messaging of the books (which he never read or watched the films) was Satanic.
So, we've got this Priest over and at one point, I ask him "Do you think Harry Potter is Satanic or Evil?" He asks me to clarify a bit, and I explained the little argument, in front of my father. The Priest just kind of shrugged and said "You make some interesting points, and from what I've seen of the films they're actually quite Christian. They depict forces of light attacking and defeating a central evil figure and his forces of darkness." All my dad did was grumble since he believed Church hierarchy was set.
Now I'm older and those illusions have broken down, of course. Still, it's one of the funnier stories. Another similar one was my father tried to get me to stop watching Family Guy by saying that Seth (MacFarlane) was derived from the same word root as Satan. Asked a Priest and he was like "Nah, Seth is the name of one of Adam and Eve's sons." I still give him shit for that. At least my father never forbade me from doing things, just frowned on them and irritated me about them. So to use his kind of wording, "I'll count my blessings".
How do you not hate your father for shit like that?
Great stories, Maso. We used to have priests over to our house as well. Funny thing: neither of the two priests I remember most at our house belong to the priesthood anymore.
One (the one my friends and I thought was cute) left the church entirely and became a medical doctor.
The other is still a conservative Catholic, but married with a bunch of kids, most of whom are grown by now. Several years ago I got into some deeply disturbing arguments with him on Facebook. He was advocating for hitting children as punishment to keep them in line. He also said that the priests who sexually abuse children often weren’t doing anything wrong because the children they were victimizing were “post-pubescent.” Furthermore, it was all the fault of progressives in the church in the first place.
On the topic of Catholic dads, not fathers, I was recently dismayed when my sibling was badly injured in a car accident, needed a personal injury lawyer, and my Dad disdained the best one because the guy had helped to sue a Catholic diocese for its role is child sexual abuse.
That has nothing to do with the topics at hand. It just helps to write and talk about it. Apparently my Dad really doesn’t care about protecting children. The church is his first priority. I think that is the crux of the problem with Christians blubbering on about “family values.” In reality they shove their institutions between parents and children. They certainly are hell-bent on standing between my parents and those of their children who left the church (and who never even remotely considered following the Republican Party).
holy shit dude
I’m not gonna read all that but congratulations if it’s good and I’m sorry if it’s bad
My cousin was a preacher who wouldn't let his kids in high school and college watch or read the Harry Potter franchise or watch Ellen on TV, because he thought the former was Satanic and the latter was a lesbian. He thought it was the End Time because Harry got a movie and Ellen got a talk show, lol! He also called my gay press magazines "the Devil's books," lol! 😆😅🤣😂😄
Labelling certain thoughts as inherently bad and sinful is also a great way to develop obsessive compulsive disorder.
@Jennifer Reyes Thanks for your comment. I learned this in my psychology classes, but it's very valuable to hear someone's actual experience on this. I hope you're better now 🤗
Scrupulosity OCD is the type of OCD you're talking about. Yep, there's actually a type for it.
Ah yes because being held accountable for your morals is sooooo orwellian. Sorry that not everything you do is approvable by our father in heaven.
@@heftymagic4814 I never said anything about Orwell, I just cited a psychological fact.
But yeah, it's great your "father in heaven" punishes us for things we can't control, thought crimes, and for the way he supposedly made us.
Good thing he doesn't exist.
@@heftymagic4814 Actually, according to the source material, the Christian God doesn't judge you based on your morality, He judges based on His own mercurial whims.
In some cases He punishes minor slights with terrible retribution, and in other cases He allows entire nations of His chosen people to endure hundreds of years of slavery. Surely you don't want to be on His bad side like those Pharisees and Sudducees who just would not ever shut up about the written word. Surely instead it'd be best to follow the example of Christ, who broke bread with whores and street thugs, but I think that'd require you to let them into your heart and potentially even see or hear them; God forbid.
I hate how these double standards have managed to reach my family in the Philippines. My mom would both encourage me as a kid writer to become like Christopher Paolini of Eragon fame but at the same time wouldn’t allow me to read Eragon because it contained dragons
Gaslighting sucks
Dragons aren’t even magic though. Just mythical creatures.
@@the3dluxe53 All mythical creatures are evil because they come from pagan cultures and paganism=witchcraft. Also, dragons "look" like demons and spew fire which is, obviously, hellfire so they're basically demons. They've always got a way to connect something to witchcraft & the devil no matter how innocuous it may seem.
@@ArnisKaye yeah those who reason like that are kinda sad
@@the3dluxe53 To be totally fair, there's magic in the books anyway. So they're double evil!
Another fun fact while everyone's talking about Eragon: They're an almost exact duplicate of the original star wars trilogy, nearly beat for beat.
@@ArnisKaye Dragons, demons and magical beings are all alien races from another planet.
This whole thing about even thinking bad thoughts being some sort of sin is just horrible for some folks. I have OCD so a lot of my thoughts are literally uncontrollable. No matter what I do I can't stop myself from experiencing "immoral" thoughts, I can only control how I react to them
We get all sorts of crazy thoughts up there. Just gotta be confident in yourself enough to know which thoughts are genuine, not try and block out what you are told is wrong.
It's no different from thoughtcrime in the book Nineteen Eighty Four.
Guys, everyone gets thoughts and emotions. We can not control what turns up in our heads. Sure there's meditation etc to learn to stop thinking, but it doesn't give you control over the thoughts your brain creates.
@@JayMaverick You're right, it's a totally natural process. But conservative Christians have often been against things that happen naturally, like having a sex drive.
There's a helpful little phrase that I remember whenever I find myself worrying about intrusive thoughts, though who said it eludes me at the moment:
"You can't control the first thought that comes into your head, but you can control the second."
Dunno how effective this will be for you, but I hope this helps at least a little bit.
One of the symptoms of my ocd is intrusive thoughts, so when I was taught over and over again that I controlled every thought I have is a reflection of the morality of my heart really fucked me up for a while... at least now I know it’s just mental illness lol
yep. been there. still have religiosity OCD
It's another example of how christians are completely out of touch with anything related to the physiology of a normal human being.
No, you do not "control all your thoughts". Your brain does a lot of stuff without you thinking about it, and intrusive thoughts are not demons, nor are they a sign you're being "unfaithful". They're just a perfectly normal process. Sometimes they're related to anxiety or stress, sometimes they're a chemical imbalance, and most of the time, they just happen just because.
Hell, take a look at practical meditation. The first thing your taught is to _not_ attempt to police your thoughts, just take note of them.
@@GracUntoYou Shut up
I have the same thing, and the clips in this video reminded me of how much I hate hearing people say that you can control your thoughts and that those thoughts determine who you are and how you behave. It used to really mess with me to hear shit like that, especially when it was from therapists. I even had a psychologist try and say my intrusive thoughts were evidence that I lacked empathy and that I had antisocial personality disorder (I don't). It was so fucked up.
Hi, Parker. I have serious issues with intrusive thoughts, and that stems from my trauma from my “Christian” school that I attended from 6th grade to the 12th grade. The intrusive thoughts come from both OCD and Asperger’s.
That burning CDs/music thing struck hard. Most of the games I enjoyed were deemed satanic, and my mom came home from a nutcase evangelical spiritual meeting and had me cut all my discs in front of her. She's not as radical now, but the pain is still there. She doesn't realize how traumatizing it was considering how that media was the only thing keeping me sane when our family was undergoing turmoil (Dad's infidelity and financial issues) and I was experiencing bullying at school.
I'm reminded how the Nazis burned "All is Quiet on the Western Front" for promoting "dangerous subversive ideas" to the German people, such as war is hell. After all, to the Nazis, "Gott mit uns".
@@nothanks6549 Thanks. I'm enjoying a liberating adult life now, and I've never been happier. :) I can finally enjoy all the "filthy" media I want!
I would hate my mother for a year for doing that.
Same here. I didn't go through that specifically, but coming home from school only to find out mom had thrown out my Pokemon cards, or that I was no longer allowed to watch certain shows I loved (I still remember sneaking into the basement to watch Sailor Moon), and later that I wasn't allowed to spend time online - which had the only social circle I felt comfortable in after numerous moves, dad's death and mom's abrupt remarriage to a guy with misunderstood mental illness and two kids from a previous marriage to integrate into the family - all left their mark. I still struggle with swinging into mindsets where I can't understand a relationship with God without throwing out anything in my house not strictly related to Christianity, and that nearly included a dear friendship a few times. I know a lot of Christians in my current church who swing into the same mindset as adults when they're stressed, and even more who seem to delight in educating those of us who grew up in those households on the pop culture we never got exposed to.
My mom has offered to help me pay my therapy bills if I can't afford to continue. I'm not sure she'll ever understand, but that's what my therapist is for lol, and I deeply appreciate her support and her openness to mental health issues.
I feel ya. My parents threw out a ton of my metal band tshirts over the years
When my mom remarried, my stepdad took everything away from me he considered “evil”; but I doubled-down on Pokémon because I was a fan for 5 years and loved it. I threatened him that I would hate him for all eternity and stop believing in God altogether if you banned Pokémon. I was allowed to keep Pokémon and only Pokémon until college.
Damn, that's pretty intense. For Pokémon. I'm glad you won, though.
You deserve a lot of points and stardust for taking that stand! 😂
What’s funny is that Doom would be a no go 100%, but it’s all about just murdering demons, which is the holiest thing you can do right?
My fan theory is that Doom Guy is actually an angel (or metaphor for one or whatever). His fortress in Doom Eternal is very, very reminiscent of a Catholic cathedral when you view it from the outside.
Plus he literally comes down from the heavens in order to fight the forces of Hell so.....
Jesus is all about love and forgiveness, Doom Slayer is all about righteous fury and destruction. He leaves the saving to Jesus, he’s too busy ripping demons apart.
The demons rebelled against a tyrannical, pathetic, selfish weak God. The demons are the good guys.
but it doesn't tell you to surrender your will and money to church, so it must be stamped out
I talked with another atheist about atheist-youtube-channel
and we came to the conclusion that it may be time to change ways:
Atheists dont have this 'Urge to spread the word', that religious channel have.
This is understandble but negative.
Negative but understandable.
Maybe we Atheists should start promoting Atheism more, is what we came to think.
We had tons of inconsistent b.s. re: magic, violence, sex... I remember my oldest brother having to practically write an essay to my mom about why "Kiki's Delivery Service" wasn't about witchcraft at all, and was furthermore an enriching and wholesome story more than fit for children. It was the first movie I snuck and watched, knowing my mother would have made me turn it off if she'd caught me. I'm super grateful I get to curate my own media now that I'm an adult.
I’m so sorry for laughing for five minutes straight about the idea of a little kid sneaking behind their parents’ back to watch a forbidden movie… and it’s *Kiki’s Delivery Service*…
My mom was skeptical of Pokémon but specifically sought out Kiki’s Delivery Service to show me that when I was a toddler, lol.
I wanted to watch that movie so bad, growing up!
Yeah I didn't get to watch Kiki's until I was 22 when they were doing an anime viewing marathon at the local theater.
The thought of a witch protagonist just really bothered my parents that much....I pretty much forgot that movie existed until my friends brought it up and took me to see it. It's one of my favorite Studio Ghibli movies now :) really wholesome. I'll make sure my kids get the opportunity to enjoy it too. I'm grateful my friends still love to play games and stuff because it gives me a chance to enjoy things I was banned from being part of as a kid.
@@asmodiusjones9563
If you think that’s bad, back in 2008 my little brother snuck in to see the movie Meet The Spartans. When our nosy parents found out, they grounded him for a month. I was just a teenager at the time and I never went and saw the movie so I didn’t really have an opinion on the situation either way and was pretty indifferent to the whole “controversy” in our family but Reading in the comment section that someone snuck in to see the movie Kiki’s delivery service reminded me of my brother doing something very similar as I mentioned in the story I just told. I haven’t thought about that incident in many years until I read this part of the comment section but that it reminds me of that incident I realize that my parents overreaction to a kid just being a kid and on top of that to snoop around until they had confirmed it, combined their overreaction to a cheep poorly made unfunny satire movie says a lot more about them than it does my brother. For fucks sake! They were acting like he was doing porn or drugs or some shit! It was a fucking movie and not even a good one and to the ground him like that for a fucking month!? And I think that’s why they were mad that he went and saw it without telling them because that implies there’s something wrong with their parenting if one of their kids has to sneak in to see a third rate comedy. My parents have since mellowed out a little bit more (though every once in a while they can still be obnoxiously knee-jerk in over reacting to anything they don’t understand, ESPECIALLY my mother) since then but looking back I can’t help but feel sorry for my younger brother because it wasn’t fair and it wasn’t right to have such disproportionate retribution self righteously visited upon him to be grounded for a fucking month by the kind of parents who at the time still believed that Harry Potter and dungeons and dragons was evil. As a quick disclaimer they’ve VERY SLOWLY come to their senses about how much of an overreaction that as well as the satanic panic of the 80s was to so... better late than never I guess! 🤣
I went to a youth group retreat around 2002 and a speaker said:
“It’s scientifically proven that music is the only thing that can enter your soul without your permission.”
Dumbest thing I ever heard
😂 that is funny since science can't prove there is a soul
@@joycej9415 "can't" is the operative word. Not hasn't. It is unverifiable, thus can't even be debated properly with facts, only.logic
"Scientifically proven" 😂😂😂😂Thought y'all didn't believe in science ?
So that must be why Hozier felt like a religious experience when I heard him for the first time + all Taylor Swfit's "Folklore"
I literally have ptsd from spending my entire childhood believing that a god knew and judged my every thought.
Same here. Hard not to be angry about it
If God is like how those Evangelics believe (petty, judgemental, spiteful) then he is similar to an abbusive father. After all, "do as I say and you get my love, don't and you get punished" is very similar. So much for "unconditional love" that they preach so much.
I do feel bad that you had to go through that. I hope you are doing better now.
@@troyjardine5850 Thanks--I am doing much better. I mention it because I know others like me will watch this video and it's good for all of us to know we aren't isolated.
@@FirstOfTheYear777 Anger is a normal, healthy reaction to being taught to fear your own mind. A good therapist (one familiar with the nuances of religious abuse) can help you find healthy expression for it. It's helped me a lot.
I remember coming back to my mom after a while and finally asking, "Why wasn't I allowed to watch Sabrina the Teenage Witch but Bewitched was okay?" and she just sat there a moment and finally admitted that it was because she watched Bewitched growing up. We then had a beat of silence that was just a moment of mutual acknowledgement that her rule had been arbitrary and not based in biblical teaching and we went on with our day.
Victory! A little moment to savor.
With some people, anything is ok as long as it's old enough.
i was reading and half expecting the response to be "because Sabrina is single witch and Samantha is a married witch" or something.
I’m honestly surprised most fundies never figured out how Bewitched is basically one large minority allegory.
I feel this can be affable to people saying drag queens are "coRrupTiNg ThE YoUtHs" but how many of those SOBS watched Bugs Bunny dress up like a chick in every other Looney Tunes cartoon and still turned out straight
11:15 I used to be so sexually repressed bc I was constantly told "don't think about sex it's a sin!" To a point where as a hormonal teenager, I literally couldn't pay attention to the church service bc I was constantly having intrusive sexual thoughts and constantly trying to shoot them down. Lol
I remember feeling guilty about dreaming about having sex with my favorite celebrity! Now I realize that I was being ridiculous over a dream that would never become a reality anyway!
Imagine making children vilify themselves due to hormonal changes and thoughts. Literal Orwellian thought crime.
LITERALLY! i hate how they all go “sex is bad sex is bad sex sex sex is bad!! even though god made it so that humans love sex!! sex is bad!!”
33 year old here. It still effects me daily.
Meanwhile the pastor is fucking half the congregation 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂and snorting up the donations isn't religion just fantastic
I always loved The Simpsons for being the only show at the time to realistically jab at christianity, the faults of it, and the point of view of how children view it. Our expended family were always the Flanders type so the show was definitely more relatable in that point too.
Yes, but one of the great things about the Simpsons is the moral ambiguity, the shades of grey. Flanders is also an exceedingly kind, caring person who would go the extra mile.
And it’s so eye opening to see how much they actually hate the idea of freedom when you do criticize them
reee! persecution!
"Expended family" ha! Haha!
Yeah, Yet It managed to be fair in the portrayal of christians. The episode where his wife dies was great too, because It showed a christian in mourning, in faith crisis and ultimately how the bible can still bring comfort to some people. Pretty unbiased take if you ask me, I loved that episode as a kid.
The thing is, when you guard up your heart you prevent circulation to other parts.
Hits a lot different when you realize they’re going around promoting blood clots lol
Like the brain
Save us jebus
Very true
What are you?
"Potted up on weed"
That's a new one, that's a good one, I'm keeping this just in case.
I hope you didn't get behind the wheel after getting all potted up.
The religious ads I now get are still worth having someone actually talk about a lot of my trauma for once
If you get AdBlock Plus you won't ever see ads again and it free
Religious ads.... I get Credit card ads and phone ads
If anything, they become comedy because I know someone is wasting their money on me. Couple thousand dollars more and they might break through.
If UA-cam ads are like other internet advertising, they have to pay more if you interact with the ad. I always make sure to click on PragerU ads, and I clicked on every Trump ad I saw.
@@justinwatson1510 That's clever
when I was 12ish, I felt very guilty about my intrusive thoughts and read a daily devotional which advised me to make an oath not to watch anything that included 'sexually impure' content. I refused to watch a lot of media for the next 2 years and wouldn't watch "Brave" with my family because a Focus on the Family review said that it included nudity (the mother woke up naked in a field, under a blanket, having transformed from bear to a human).
aside from that, I tried to completely police my thoughts during that time, even apologizing to several people I was close to for "accidentally thinking a 'bad' thing about them", praying that God would forgive me of all the thoughtcrimes I didn't intend, etc.
turns out I was having symptoms of anxiety which absolutely worsened due to these beliefs, it has been a long process since of unchaining myself from it all and I can finally say that I feel free in my own mind (aside from bouts of now-managed anxiety/depression)
Thought crimes are the worst thing a culture can promote. You should not have to feel bad for just thinking about something.
@@GracUntoYou perhaps it is better to question where those thoughts come from, and why you have them. This way instead of a knee jerk reaction to the symptoms, you can reflect and root out the cause of said thoughts.
For some the root is anxiety or fear, for others it may be something like OCD. For some it may just be difficult or trying times, and for others it's nothing more than "just a thought".
There is no need to police ones thoughts. They exist so that we may explore the depths of our mind, and better understand who we are as individuals.
Jesus Ochoa no. Why would it need to be rebuked? Thoughts are just thoughts. Man, you people are fucked up..🤦♂️
Holy shit, that sounds like hell. These people are insane, pushing this kind of nonsense on children, ignoring the damage they do.
@@GracUntoYou No, actually. "rebuking" intrusive thoughts is literally the worst thing to do. All of the science around intrusive thoughts indicates that putting any kind of focus on them can intensify anxiety and make the intrusive thoughts worse.
“Grieving the spirit” I remember my parents literally saying I would make the ultimate creator of the universe sad bc of my THOUGHTS I CANT CONTROL DURING MY DEVELOPMENT YEARS
I don't know why "you heard it here first, folks: a rat named Splinter is the hero" is goddamn funny to me.
Christians Hate Rats
fr whyd he say it like that lol what did splinter ever do to deserve hate
It sounds racist. I don’t know HOW it sounds racist, but it does.
Omg a cartoon animal is a hero in a cartoon, I can't believe to what the world has come to
Yeah it's weird. I don't even know where they got the idea that rats were satanic in any way. If anything, snakes are the satanic ones, but not really as snakes are often used as symbolism in the bible to referance evil or Satan, not actual snakes. Don't know why the think the name "splinter" is evil either. It's quite odd.
When I was a Christian and reading through Leviticus I was freaked out by the Priestly rituals. It was literal blood magic, spells and divination.
but since it was ordered "ny God" it was ok, and they didn't noticed it was not different from the pythonize of apolo...
It was their culture. It was in the Old Testament
@@aspitube2515 You know what else was in the old testament? God murdering a group of children. (Kings 22:23) Why the hell did this religion get so far with such horrible actions taken?
@@dryfox11 There’s nothing in Kings 22:23 that has anything to do with the murdering of kids but, yes, he did indeed ordered his people to kill, not just the men, but the woman and the children too...
Also, there are a lot of controversies about what the Hebrew verbs could really mean but, that’s not the subject now.
Of course that’s a horrible to happen, but in context, one of the 2 widely accepted reasons of why he gave such orders are…
*-To spare the woman and children of being raped and abused after the war.*
*-To prevent their future generations to take revenge on the jewish people, which would eventually happen when “Saul” (as far as I can remember) disobeyed God.*
People back then were brutal, it was probably the only way to take control, still giving free will, to them.
And if you were referring to (psalms 137:9):
“Happy is the one who takes your babies and smashes them against rocks”
This is taken out of context, it’s poetry.
It was when the people of Jerusalem were asking God to punish the Edomites. And of course, that was wrong for them to ask something like that.
You can read the chapter online, to understand it better, if you want, it’ll only take a minute.
The Bible isn’t about the people that surround you.
Even after traumatic events (and I know that’s sad, I’m sorry for that), Jesus is there to help you, *for he is merciful and compassionate, slow to get angry, and filled with unfailing love. He is eager to relent and not punish.*
And that’s open to everyone now, not just jews.
Listen, It’s not about me, nor the others, it’s about you. It’s your choice.
But, know, that he’ll always be waiting for you, with open arms, ready to hug you.
So while watching this and hearing how just thinking or seeing something non religious is bad i had weird dystopian vibes.
but when he said "thought crimes" it was like Orwell himself hit me in the face with a 1984 KG dose of realization.
also the "be carefull little eyes" song is something straight out of a horror movie where if you look at the monster it kills you.
Hahaha. Someone used "be carefull little eyes" in a horror game. I never played it myself, but I heard it was a very memeroble use of the song. It wasn't a dystopian horror though. More like a physcological-nightmare horror.
@@fgrthyjukilo9377 Outlast 2 did it, and in a quite an unnerving manner.
Like half the christian children's songs would fit into a cult themed horror movie with zero modifications.
I’m deconstructing.
Starting to realise that what I called “conviction “ or “being lead by the spirit” was actually just the fear I’d been fed. Fear that if I did x god would hate me. Its like an abusive relationship...
oof. I was there years ago too. Looking back now, I can say that it was DEFINITELY an abusive relationship.
I would beat myself up mentally over the slightest missteps or "wrong thoughts", and the trauma is still lingering there to this day. :(
yup
Hey man, might be a bit late but if you still need more help deconstructing, try out theramintrees on UA-cam, they do great breakdowns
it 100% is. Good for you on deconstructing!
God loves you! But fear him at every corner and never go against his word ever or do this massive list of “sins” that isn’t real and you’re supposed to guess based on a 2,000 year old game of telephone. Why are they exempt from taxes again?
The "be careful little eyes what you see" song sounds like it was written by some parents who don't want to close their bedroom door.
Yeah, Christain parents are always worried that their child would see messed up stuff, and really, who could blame them? The internet is a messed-up place. Luckily my parents weren't too mad when they found out I was watching p00rn (mostly transformation f3t15h h3nta1) and just told me to do it in private, don't do it too often, and not look at the really bad stuff or go on any actual p00rn websites like The Hub or something. They told me cooming was like alcohol. Good, but only when used in moderation. Very wise words.
@@krimsonkatt Transformation? A fellow man of culture, I see.
@@АртёмУсенко-и4ю A man of culture indeed. I have a quite refined taste, unlike those mpreg and inflation people over there in the corner.
@@krimsonkatt I can't believe your parents didn't want you watching Transformers on The Hub
I thought of not opening their parents' room at night time ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
My mom worked in the library at a private Christian school. (They sent us there too for education.) During the Scholastic Book Fair the church banned Harry Potter. My mom literally sold the books under the table like contraband.
Nice. I respect her
Respect 🙌❤️
The fact this channel exists on UA-cam is honestly nuts(in the good way). I’ve never seen Christianity questioned so boldly and intelligently in my life. I’ve just started to question my own faith after years of being indoctrinated and all these points have been things I couldn’t put into words to say to my pastor or parents. Good stuff
You can watch Theramin trees too! He does a wonderful job in criticising religion
Dawkins and Hitchens and Harris did a lot of good groundwork....but it has almost entirely lost the power it once had. And I think for good reason. They broke those doors open....and thank god(?) they did.
But NOW....we need content like this. Those 3 guys were _never_ religious....never lived it.
From someone who was once on the inside, like many of us were(and some still are), being honest about it in a way no one else can.
Atheist Experience, The Line & other affiliate YT Channels?
Years ago, the whole "questioning religion" thing was really huge on youtube. This used to be everywhere. The problem was that somehow, almost all of these vocal atheists ended up being alt-right nutjobs. (Don't attack me. I'm an atheist.)
@@dream-lh4pc Theramin trees needs more views !! He's great !!!
"... and of course, Mickey is the sorcerer himself."
uhhhh, actually. Mickey was the sorcerer's APPRENTICE! Come on man.
I talked with another atheist about atheist-youtube-channel
and we came to the conclusion that it may be time to change ways:
Atheists dont have this 'urge to spread the word', that religious channel have.
This is understandble but negative.
Negative but understandable.
Maybe we Atheists should start promoting Atheism more, is what we came to think.
Throwback to when my parents told me I couldn’t watch “Avatar: The Last Airbender” because it “wasn’t teaching Christian values”
I see that "Christian values" are highly overrated and dystopian!
That's stupid.
Kindness, anti fascism, respect for women, and compassion for people different from you? Yeah, sounds like it might ruin kids’ warmongering Christian indoctrination.
It teaches some very good lessons. Uncle Iroh is the best.
My new age Cristhian mother banned Avatar in my house too 😂
The horrifying thing about the "be careful little eyes" song is it makes it sound like you may accidentally stumble across something in everyday life, but then it would be too late. Just minding my own business when a transgender wizard playing rock n' roll pops out and the damage has been done. After all, everyone on the internet knows, what has been seen, cannot be unseen!
That'd be a hell of a sight though.
Oh man but that would own though. Can they actually do magic or are they just dressed like a wizard? I mean both good but still holy shit.
Safeguard your spleen brother....keep watch....
That's a goatsie reference lol
Thats not the Songs intention.
I'm still pretty annoyed that my family told me the colors of the Ninja Turtles and Power Rangers represented demons and new age woo. Seriously. As a man now in my 30's, I regularly mock them for that.
U really should be mad at them, because u missed out on some awesome toys.
@@GracUntoYou Stop spamming.
"Represent demons" ....Like _what?_ Is there even a quartet of color-coded demons _in_ the bible? What the hell is the blue demon?
And for that matter, weren't all the renaissance artists, for which the turtles are named, christians??
Yes the Tmnt are named after Christian artists😂
@@potaterjim Consider this: the artists in question were all Catholics. If was assume Rhett is American, then it's likely that he grew up in a Protestant household, and Catholics aren't really well-received in this kind of environment.
I remember first watching Harry Potter when I was 18 and feeling like such a rebel. Also as someone who has anxiety over intrusive thoughts the whole thought policing thing Christians do and “only letting in good thoughts” had me thinking I was an evil person for most of my teenage years. It didn’t help that I was secretly gay either.
only about a year ago did i truly face my religious trauma. it was such a world changing thing. i actually am allowing myself to love myself now. i grew up being told everything was evil including me. gay btw
I'm so glad you've been strong enough to face it. And I promise that you do, definitely, deserve love like everyone else.
Mood bro. Hang in there.
Glad you are on the up, anyone or thing that tells you you are evil isn't worth listening to and should be removed from your life. Good luck for your future.
I'm trans and had a similar experience. I can't listen to religious music without feeling physically sick, and I don't think I'll ever entirely be ok with Christianity as a whole because of how I was raised to be anything but myself. I'm an atheistic satanist now.
Being told that you’re unworthy of love is the absolute worst trauma someone can experience.
"Sleeping beauty has witches and magic mirrors!" Yeah, and those are the villains of the story. Same in Snow White, they both get horribly killed
"Mickey mouse is the wizard himself!" Yeah, and magic goes absolutely haywire and he learns a valuable lesson about tampering with stuff he shouldn't have
Do they even watch the-no, you're right, I know they don't.
Also in Harry Potter there are good wizards and bad wizards with a clear distinction between the two. In fact in real life Wiccan practice there's pro-curse witchs, anti-curse witchs, even Christian witch's that practice magic while worshipping God and even people who supposedly work with angels.
@@elizabethsmith7224 Magic kind of goes counter to Church teachings. The Church views magic and such things as acts of God. The church cannot have people claiming acts of God is actually witchcraft from mortal hands. Everything has to be from God. The supernatural is the punishments for sins and the rewards for piousness. All acts of God. Witchcraft and magic goes against all of that. A really interesting view on why the Church might have been so set on burning witches. It wasn't that they were evil. It was that they contested the Church's monopoly on belief.
@@fgrthyjukilo9377 - No. No Church views magic as "Acts of God". God does not use Magic and a Miracle is not Magic. The Real Reason The Bible condemns Witches is due to what they actually Were. They made Drugs basically. This is the Historical Meaning anyway.
They made various things that could cause Hallucinations, Elevation or decline in Mood, even Kill You. But, they were not doing so with "Magic: as We define the term. or was it medical, which at the Time would be handled by The Levite Priesthood. (Or Locally in Tribes as Travel was Harder.)
Magic is said to not exist in Christian Theology.
Modern Neo-Pagan Witches are something that took the watered down Caricatures that developed after the Enlightenment mocked Christianity for the Early Modern witch Hunts. Which are now further obscured by claiming them as from The Middle Ages. In the Middle Ages People said Witches did not Exist, and even in The Early Modern Era it was secular Courts, not Church Courts, that Hear most of the Cases.
Even the Witches Hammer by Kramer was rejected by The Church.
And the Salem Witch Hunts were stopped By Ministers too, and were Protestant.
@@elizabethsmith7224 - Harry Potter is also Christian Allegory, from a Liberal Christian Perspective, like A Wrinkle In Time. Which should tell You BION is nit entirely Honest.
You shouldn't take small clips as whole beliefs. Nor see all Christians the way BION presents them.
As someone who lost my best friend because I was so hellbent on keeping witchcraft out of my home, watching it nearly tank my marriage, and still standing firm. Only for a year later, after a deep study of the Christian bible, to come out as atheist, this one cut particularly deep
I've lots of Wiccan and a couple of Satanist friends and dated a couple of them. My dates were awesome!😁😃🥰😋😛🥳😎
I was watching The Simpsons with my wife and her very Catholic mother came in and ended up watching 3 episodes and laughing the whole time. She then said "You know I've never watched this show. It is not what I thought it was"
Yeah we know haha
I talked with another atheist about atheist-youtube-channel
and we came to the conclusion that it may be time to change ways:
Atheists dont have this 'Urge to spread the word', that religious channel have.
This is understandble but negative.
Negative but understandable.
Ironically it was the fervent crusade against Harry Potter and Pokemon that had my mom stop stop going to church and by extension a very thankful me.
Yeah, church is supper corrupt now. Make your own body and mind the church of the Lord, not some corrupt wordly establishment that cares more about preaching politics than spreading the good word.
@@krimsonkatt "now"
what a load
it's always been
@@GracUntoYou
Bane 25 17
Noone cared who I was untill I put on the mask
@@GracUntoYou
no, I know believing in fairy tales and brainwashing children is wrong
@@GracUntoYou Hey, just so you know, posting the same damn comment repeatedly in multiple comment threads counts as spam.
Also, why do you think you can convert us? We're beyond aware of how religion fits the BITE model. Especially with your apparently positive stance on brainwashing... The 'T' in 'BITE' stands for 'Thought Control'.
Reminds me of how my main reason of leaving the church was because a youth group leader continually told me that playing rpgs like D&D were akin to witchcraft and I needed to stop. Considering the fact that I was depressed and roleplaying still is one of the things that bring me genuine joy I stopped going to that youth group. I couldn't deal with someone guilting me for something that genuinely kept me alive at that time.
my mom, a Christian, never let my sister and I watch harry potter. if the movies came on the channel we watched, she switched it to her 70s' movies. weird thing is I was raised on disney and magical fantasy stories already...
Ah yes, the story of “the chosen one” who performs miracles and how he must save mankind by sacrificing himself and then returning to defeat evil. What a Satanic story.
yeah we weirdly were allowed to watch it but not reading because JK "wrote it with a coven of witches"
I was allowed to watch it & read the books but only when the other kids in the family weren't there as they might learn to use magic spells according to my adopted mother. I was laughing mentally when she said that😂
Warner bros is dangerous according them, xd I dont even want to know what they think about the looney tunes,
When I was in high school Disney’s Beauty and the Beast came out and my fellow 16 almost 17 year old friend and I wanted to go to the movies to see it. Her mother made a HUGE deal out of it because it had a witch and witchcraft in it. We snuck off to see it anyway.
@@nothanks6549 Well, I also helped her get birth control so probably!
Oh my parents also had a problem with the live action Beauty and the Beast, but somehow even worse: There's a gay person in it so to them it had to have been bad
@@annaairahala9462 well they were half right. The movie was bad but also there were no gay people in it.
@@annaairahala9462 This is hilarious considering the person in question is hinted at so vaguely that probably nobody would have noticed or considered it intentional if they hadn't made a big deal about it.
@@det.bullock4461 exactly!
Honestly.....I love this channel, it's SO heartfelt and honest and real.
As a former born-again end-times obsessed Christian teen....everything on this channel hits CLOSE to home.
But sometimes.....it's just terrifying. I'm genuinely worried that Conservative Christians are THIS CLOSE to full on embracing fascism. All they need is a leader with enough charisma and lack of shame to go for it. Oh wait...... Oh shit. Yeah...I worry a lot these days. Yeah, he's out of office. But did the "office" ever really mean anything? Or was it the realization of a latent power they now feel free to wield?
Again....I worry a lot. It CAN happen here. I think it is actually. I think it's only starting....
Those people already are fascists & they already are in seats of power like Florida's Governor. They set Biden up to fail so that they could become unstoppable & it is obvious that these conservatives will lead the world to ruin. They just are too powerful & not even assassination will make a difference against these horrible people because of their brainwashed cults.
A leader with charisma, yeah that's what they need! Guess you didn't know that Trump is their God now
And how ironic is it that this “leader” is clearly an atheist pretending to be a Christian - and doing the WORST impersonation in history?
@@undrwatropium3724 Last time I went to church I think was may in 2022 and they were still talking about him like he is some hero and satan is trying to bring him down plus they were also talking about having men carry guns in the church in case of shooting even though this building was 10 miles out of town in the middle of farmland .... something about untrained people with loaded weapons in a small room with lots of kids running around seemed really dangerous to me
@@undrwatropium3724 I swear, my parents (mostly my dad) were obsessed with Rebel News during the peak of the virus-that-shall-not-be-named.... the organization is closely related to the chinese Falun Gong movement but their commentators are white conservatives perpetuating Christian values.
And let me tell you, that news outlet (if you can even call it one) was VERY BIG ON TRUMP, more than Fox even, pretty much hailing him as a savior. I'm so glad my parents snapped out of that phase, but they're still centre-leaning-pretty-darn-right and I worry their propaganda has permanently tainted their worldviews.
That McGee and Me episode really messed with me as a kid. Some really awful, abusive things happened to me as a kid and the things I saw before age 10 would have been rated hard R or NC-17, and the speech of the dad about how the things the kid had seen had forever contaminated his soul just gave me more fuel for why all the bad stuff that happened was really my fault.
Fortunately, I have an awesome therapist as an adult and I'm finding that's way more helpful and constructive than anything the church ever told me.
Cheers I'm glad you found things that work for you 🙂
It wasn't your fault
Getting dragged into the principals office in a Christian School because one of his seven children heard you say ‘gee wiz’ and conflated that with ‘Jesus wizard’.
The trauma runs deep man...
@@GracUntoYou ta for the micro sermon but it’s very disingenuous to cover over years of social and mental abuse by just waving it away, I think you’d get along with my parents really well.
Oh yeah, gee wiz, such a bad word lol.
But Jesus was a wizard, he performed magic. so was Moses.
@@GracUntoYou Know Thyself.
“Did you just say gosh on my Christian Minecraft server!?”
My parents removed tv and the internet from our home when I was 12. This really hurt me as I was super into the art of video games and wanted to learn to make them. It was a passion of mine. But sadly it only could be a passion at the age of 18. When I left home. Going into the church with my family was a massive change. One that still messes with me.
Every time a youth pastor or whoever said “we all have impure thoughts” but I was like 11 and even then it made my skin crawl, like, “nooo? What kind of impure things do you think about??”
Forging my parents' signatures on an awful report card
I can’t count the number of times I heard “garbage in, garbage out” growing up.
@@nothanks6549 I was a driver for a mental heath live-in care facility. One day I heard "Staff lobby STAT" I asked what was going on, and they said, "Oh that's just [Jane] she pulled her eyeball out again" So I asked why she would do that?" "She read it in The Bible." Fun fact - You can pull your eyeball out, and it is still connected to your optic nerve, so you can stick it back in again, and go on sinning. Cutting off your hand is a little more problematic. Funny The Bible doesn't say anything about cutting off your dick. You would think that that would be at the top of the list. Also, yeah, the GIGO thing. Got that from my youth pastor.
@@Clamski I don't really think that was one of the bits Jesus actually wanted people doing. The guy did a lot of social commentary with his sermons, and I'd always read that this one was him being hyperbolic, with the point being "Why don't you worry about yourselves? If YOU're so concerned about other people sinning and want to keep them pure, but then you start looking at a woman a bit lustfully, maybe YOU should rip your eyes out and throw them into a fire, so that way you never ever sin again with your eyes! Oh yeah, if you sin with your hands, maybe YOU should cut your hands off so you can't sin with your hands again!" He did this a lot around the Pharisees/Sadducees/teachers of the law when they were being particularly dickish.
@@raetekusu1 Jesus only said "right eye and right hand." You mentioned eyes and hands which is plural. So please have a re-read of Matthew 5. I mean I get it. He's not saying do it. He's just saying do it, or you risk eternal damnation. Or you could just wear blinders and ask for forgiveness. What else did Jesus say that you can interpret as you like? Matthew 5:20? Dang, that is a high bar to set. I guess I'm out then
Ditto - the religious fundamentalists want to strictly control what people see and hear because they don’t want you exposed to competing narratives.
I still remember there was a song on a kids christian music album we had called "Input / Output" and unfortunately, by remember, I mean remember many of the lyrics.
This hit home for me when I grew up. I remember the first time my mom said "If you think of something it is like doing it." And this was when I wrote a friend about a crush I had in middle school back in the days where we wrote notes to our friends on paper, no internet, no cell phones. Late 80s. But I was just telling my friend about a dream I had about my crush kissing me. Just innocent kissing and my mom found the note and guilt trip me as if kissing would lead to sex, rape and pregnancy. And it took 10 years till I stopped feeling guilty thanks to a book called Owning Your Own Shadow: Understanding the Dark Side of the Psyche by Robert A Johnson. And reading that book told me that there is nothing wrong with having dark thoughts and fantasizing about them as long as you don't do them physically. And that religion, especially modern Christian religion, is in extreme denial of their shadow that it will warp their minds.
And it clearly shows, there is a reason why a lot of people are leaving the church and religion for this very reason. The church's mask that they show society is cracking and the shadow is showing letting the smart ones leave before it is to damn late. Since I moved out on my own over 25+ years ago I have seen the Christian religion get more and more cult like by the day. Hell when I was a kid my parents would get kicked out of churches because I would ask to many questions. When you have a 9 year old get read a bible passage and is told what it means, but when the 9 year old reads the same passage for themselves and it says nothing about what they where told and they question the Sunday school teacher about it, and in turn find out that the church talks to the parents and the parents have to find a new church because the 9 year old asked an honest question. That was my family with me. I was the 9 year old questioning religion.
So when I grew up, got married and moved out, I went on a spiritual journey for myself and ended up being witch in the end because witchcraft and various pagan beliefs made sense to me. Don't get me wrong, I am a firm believer in science. To me magic and spells are real and do work, it is called quantum physics! Especially quantum entanglement. (Believe me if you look up how magic and spells are suppose to work and compare them to quantum physics both of them act the same way.) As for "God" or "Gods" I see those of psychological archetypes of one's own psyche and the collected unconscious of humanity. As for demons, devils, angels and the like, they are a form of energy with a specific frequency like the human soul that we have no clear understanding of yet other than beings from other parallel universes and other dimensions. That is my spiritual beliefs in a nutshell.
Is there a God maybe, maybe not. But one thing I do know is modern Christianity has a huge psychological and social shadow that they are pretending that doesn't exist, but it is clearly showing. Like a person denying that their house is on fire and the entire neighborhood is clearly in flames.
ngl, the "be careful little eyes" song low key snatched me back to my childhood in ways I neither expected nor wanted. As did the Magee and me thing. I distinctly remember watching that specific episode as a kid.
Luckily I never watched Magee and Me growing up. The only Christains shows I watched were the original runs of Veggietales and Bibleman both which were low-key good, the latter more debatable than the former. While the messages in Bibleman could be harmful, I never really cared about those growing up and just came for the off-brand lightsaber duels. (I was a huge star wars fan growing up and the lightsaber battles were my favorite part. Episode I was my favorite in the series growing up solely because of the Darth Maul fight and podracing.) And Veggietales was pretty much 99% bible parodies with funny songs so completely harmless.
@@krimsonkatt VeggieTales is still a high key JAM. I follow Phil Vischer on Twitter and MAN am I glad I do, he absolutely calls out a lot of this same nonsense, he blessedly doesn’t subscribe to evangelical/fundamentalist insanity...though he attends an evangelical church? I haven’t worked that one out, but regardless, he doesn’t parrot this craziness and for that, I’m forever grateful.
GOD, same.
@@jenniferhiemstra5228 not all evangelism is the same. Each pastor takes a different read on the Bible and some are far less objectionable.
@@jenniferhiemstra5228 Phil Vischer and the veggietales crew are really good people. Veggie tales the show is pretty good too
No secular music was a big part of my childhood, so when my dad (a massive Born Again Christian and later an ordained Pastor) introduced me to the band Yes, I thought they were a Christian band because I never heard any curse words and I was conditioned to thinking all my dad listened to was Christian music. It was 5 years later that I learned they were Prog Rock band who's fans were mostly acid tripping hippies that liked to get as high as possible and zone out to the music. Needless to say, I was floored and completely confused why my dad was such a hypocrite, but by then I knew he was a hypocrite about much more than just music.
I love the band, they’re one of my favorites from the 60s
ah, my favorite Christian song: roundabout
Close to the Edge, Down by a river! I get up! I get down!
I love Yes, and even though he was a massive hypocrite your dad at least introduced you to one good thing.
that "Be Careful Little Eyes" song brought back some super repressed memories
Wow, as a second generation atheist. This helps me to understand so much about why my country is a mess.
To be totally fair, christianity isn't the major contributing factor to why it's a mess, at least right now. But they're doing their damndest to keep it broken
Please don't think this is all Christians or churches tho, mine was never like this.
Yup bunch of non critical thinkers
@larry lawrence that's not how homeschooling or Christianity works
Honestly.....I love this channel, it's SO heartfelt and honest and real.
As a former born-again end-times obsessed Christian teen....everything on this channel hits CLOSE to home.
But sometimes.....it's just terrifying. I'm genuinely worried that Conservative Christians are THIS CLOSE to full on embracing fascism. All they need is a leader with enough charisma and lack of shame to go for it. Oh wait...... Oh shit. Yeah...I worry a lot these days. Yeah, he's out of office. But did the "office" ever really mean anything? Or was it the realization of a latent power they now feel free to wield?
Again....I worry a lot. It CAN happen here. I think it is actually. I think it's only starting....
I relate to this so much. Growing up it seemed like whenever I was REALLY interested in something, a game, a tv series, a book, there was always some reason why that thing was particularly bad and I couldn’t enjoy it anymore.
I mean FFS we weren’t allowed to watch Shrek when it came out because implies Bible stories are fairy tales...
How did Shrek imply that?
@@ethancox9737 It didn't. That never happened. Shrek never even mentions christianity outside of the church at the end and the catholic wedding rites, but those things have been largely secularized by society despite their highly religeous nature so yeah. Instead, I wasn't allowed to watch Shrek as a kid because my Dad thought it was inappropriate and "too adult" when similar jokes happened in Pixar movies like Toy Story and Cars and yet he didn't care. Probably Mandella effect lol. Maybe my dad came from another timeline where Shrek was much more vulgar and was PG13?
@@krimsonkatt Got it lol.
@@krimsonkatt well, the talking donkey is a story from the Bible and one of the “fairy tale creatures” that lord farquad was trying to round up. There is also a scene where Fiona hides her ogre form inside a tomb with a large stone, which appears to be a reference to Jesus’ tomb. Seems small but it was enough 🤷🏻♂️
@@GracUntoYouamazing. Your uninvited proselytizing that is utterly irrelevant to this discussion has converted me back to Christianity. Keep it up 👍🏻
One of the movies I wasn’t allowed to watch was Sinbad. ‘Sin’ ‘bad’🤦🏻 finally watched it in art school one night and immediately called my mom just to yell at her.
Why was your mom against sin being called bad?
@@help4343 why indeed. Really it was just because she thought the animation style was 'degenerate.' I wasn't allowed to watch most cartoons because they had 'degenerate' animation. Really anything from Picasso onward was 'degenerate.' My mom the art critic. 😆
Lmaoooooo
please tell me you recorded that conversation and uploaded it to youTube
@@MBrainspaz I mean like her take is still dumb but damn how they animated Eris is well…….interesting 😳
My parents were the same. Simpsons, Nightmare Before Christmas and Harry Potter were some of the examples that we weren’t allowed to watch growing up, but of course that didn’t stop me from sneaking into the living room to watch them when they on tv.
YES! My aunt got really mad that I wore a Nightmare Before Christmas pin on my jacket at church.
@@nothanks6549 Isn't it nuts how being raised christian usually teaches kids to just not talk to our parents about the things we like it want to watch, for fear it will also be banned like so many other things.
No one lies better than a christian kid.
When I was in Kindergarten or 1st Grade, there was this teddy bear we'd trade off taking home this teddy bear, and the parents would help write up what we did that weekend with the bear. One of the things my father and I wrote down was, "We watched Nightmare Before Christmas" which was new to VHS at the time. Well, my mom got off work and saw what we wrote and freaked out. 25 years later, turns out my mom actually loves that movie.
@@KezanzatheGreat However, Latin in prayers is generally a Catholic thing. And Protestants aren't too fond of Catholics.
Yep... so many Disney movies we couldn’t watch because they had witches and magic and stuff; meanwhile we could watch Pepe the skunk or whatever-which always made me feel kinda icky-and/or various other cartoons where they always tried to hurt each other and blow things up ‘n stuff.
And Harry Potter movies? I remember when it was the books popular cause of them and I couldn’t so much as glance at them on display at stores a brief second without my bros tattling on me.
As soon as I was given my own laptop by someone at 17 for /writing/... I watched so many movies on it lol. Well. When my parents weren’t in the room and didn’t disconnect the internet, anyway.
Thank you for these videos. I am currently in therapy because these toxic religious teachings made me think ALL SEX was a sin. These videos opened my little eyes!!
I would love a video where you go more in depth on the thought policing aspect of Christianity. As someone with OCD, it wasn't helpful being taught as a kid that every thought that went through my head reflected on me as a person.
I was just thinking this! I went through the same thing.
Same thoughts, OCD and PTSD
Nice Kirisu pic. Mayuri is better.
Literally apologizing to God became a ritual for me
Yessssssss. I wasn't even raised very religiously, but this affected me, too. I have a lot of trauma from having disturbing intrusive thoughts, and then believing those thoughts made me a bad person, or that because I was thinking of a scary thing, that meant I would do it. It's terrifying to believe you don't have any control of your own mind and body, and it really fucks with your self image. Thankfully, medication and therapy have helped me get rid of the more upsetting thoughts, and gain more control over them in general.
Came for the video essays, stayed for the podcast.
The Simpsons references really sealed the deal
Sameeeeee
Lol same
Exactly my experience!!
Ture
I remember I had a friend who wasn't allowed to watch Master's of the Universe because it was "evil".
When she was in her 20s she final watched and said "Wow. That's justs dumb. This is what my mom was scared of?"
I guess the title fooled her, lol!🤣😂😆😅😄
Why do christians hate He-Man?
Because they just see a skull and that it has magic in it and judge it based solely on that.
@@johnoconnell5004 perhaps it's because Prince Adam says that when he transforms into He-Man he becomes the most powerful man in the universe. I think some Christians group may find it sacrilegious, but to me it's sounds ridiculous
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They seem to hate She-Ra (the Dreamworks one) even more.
My family is basically all atheists, but when I was young and my parents were in the military we briefly lived with another family that was Christian and had a lot of rules for their kids on what they could watch. Definitely led to some awkward moments because the only show I wasn't allowed to watch was Veggie Tales, which was the only cartoon the other kids could.
That's pretty weird. Veggie Tales is not only a good cartoon, but also a show that could be seen in even the strictest Christian households. I'm glad Veggie Tales was a part of my childhood.
@@The-Opium-DenI think OP meant because their family were atheists, they didn’t let them watch Veggietales because it was religious but let them watch anything else. When they met the Fundamentalist Christian family, that was the only thing they let their kids watch. So when he visited them, it felt awkward.
@@carlosalmonacid8958 Still seems strange to me, but I suppose when you put it that way it makes sense. Never thought Veggie Tales could offend anyone on account of being a religious show alone, but I suppose the overarching theme may rub some people the wrong way.
Whenever I hear someone say that they won't believe something because "It's a theory", I get frustrated because it displays a complete lack of understanding of how science works and makes apparent how important it is for people to not be isolated from the truth because of religion.
Id like to see observable proof for macroevolution before i accept it as true. Microscopic changes from generation to generation is proven and quite logical.
But the changing of one biblical ”kind” to another has not been proven to be possible but is only assumed.
@@BlurpGooDiJabba maybe there's no proof of a biblical kind changing, because biblical kinds aren't a thing? The bible was written by people who didn't understand evolution or adaptations on any level, so they did their best.
Let's not forget that Evolution was discovered and defined by an incredibly devout christian. Also yes, Macroevolution does have an unbelievable amount of proof, Evolution is one of, if not the single most solidly proven concepts in all of science.
We have more evidence of it than almost anything else in existence.
If you can't accept, or understand that because it conflicts with your world view then that is a you problem.
@@abirdnamedwill well name one observable proof then.
@@abirdnamedwill if its so evident then you should be able to prove it. dont throw out big claims without some references.
@@BlurpGooDiJabba There are dozens if not hundreds of thousands of books, studies, videos, essays, that are right at the tip of your fingers from any Google search, trip to the library, science apps and magazines, teachers etc etc.
It's not my job to teach you basic concepts, anymore than it's my job to show you why 2+2 = 4.
Look it up, I'm a random fuck texting you at work I'm not going out of my way to find you evidence when you can do it yourself in less than an hour.
I love how twilight was slammed for being to “worldly” when it was written by a practicing Mormon and the 2 leads abstain from sex till marriage.
I think the reason I love this channel so much is because it gives me a perspective on people who were raised so opposite the way I was raised. My mom let me explore whatever beliefs I wanted to, and be the person who I wanted to be. She never kept a tight leash on me or strict rules, but I also didn't break her trust by doing anything too crazy, most the time. It just blows my mind every time I hear stories from people that live sheltered lives or had heavy restrictions on what they could or couldn't do or watch. A friend of mine hadn't seen Harry Potter or Avatar The last Airbender or a lot of other media for these exact reasons. Introducing her to Avatar The last Airbender and seeing how much she loved it was so enjoyable for both of us, It sucks that some people didn't have the chance to experience shows like that when they were growing up.
My Old Pastor had a long series on why rock is so Evil while admitting that he has listened to it in private or going out to eat with him and he has fun while playing name that tune. And I know he misses smoking pot but will preach hard against it.
I'm sure he has wonderful things to say about D&D.
The last time I spoke to my biological father, he had quit media. I wasn't really sure what he meant, but it turned out that he... Quit watching TV and movies (which he used to love) and possibly video games. He had, however, continued watching "Christian" movies and "Christian" produced series, and the only music he listens to is "Christian."
I'm not an expert in Christianity or in the word of God or anything but I seriously don't know if there's a part of the Bible where Jesus tells Matt to stop reading books and watching performances. I know Jesus said to drop your life but he didn't say to move into the church.
Cognitive Dissonance is powerful, somewhere in that shell is probably a frightened man being forced into this position, maybe by himself or external forces. Religion is quite an unfortunate thing.
@@kakizakichannel Jesus in the manga clearly said "if you watch TV you will actually be worse than Judas."
That's such a damn shame cuz your pastor actually seems like a really cool guy. If only he didn't have the yoke of authoritarian theology over him, he'd probably be one of those Rastafarian preachers.
It feels so Orwellian. I remember asking questions in Sunday school and being pulled aside and being yelled at to not ask questions.
I was raised evangelical in the 80's, when the whole Satanic Panic was in full bloom, and one of the favorite targets of evangelicals then was Dungeons and Dragons. I can't remember how many times we were warned of the "dangers" of D&D and how it turned people into devil worshiping drug addicts. And of course, MTV, back when it actually played music videos. I had to do the same thing you had to do to watch the Simpsons. Stay near a window to make sure I could turn the channel and TV off when my grandma got home.
Love your content brotha! My wife grew up in a very religious home and these essays have really helped me better empathize and understand her experience.
The varying appearances of "Be Careful Little Eyes" was really piercing and evocative. You make terrific videos and I appreciate your efforts.
My grandpa actually liked showing me and my cousins violent movies because he believed it would make us tough. Strength was a prized value.
I dunno if I believe that, but hey, I do believe that violent media helps kids mature faster, if only because they're being exposed to broader subjects. So I guess I agree with him!
grandpas are great
Sounds like a great way to glorify violence. I know that makes me sound like a preacher but damn, it creeps me out how much we love violent media in this country sometimes.
"And of course, Mickey is the sorcerer himself" while a clip from fantasia plays is honest to god the funniest thing I've seen in a long time
It's like one of those parody conspiracy theories, but in this instance it's kind of sad because the speaker was actually touting Fantasia's whimsy as occult lmao
I love how these people rave about cults when they meet all the hallmarks of a cult.
Also my aunt doesn't let her kids watch Harry Potter because of the magic, but she loooooovesssssss Chronicles of Narnia. AND even LORD OF THE RINGS is a family CLASSIC. What the F- How do these people not hear themselves being so ridiculous?
This video and discussion have me wondering: Am I being hypocritical by not foisting Narnia on my kids because of its drippy Christian allegory? My mother has been trying to get my kids interested, but when I told them it was Christian, they demurred. I myself loved the books as a kid and read each one two or three times, but I don’t particularly miss them. My oldest was absolutely devoted to Harry Potter when she was younger.
On an unrelated note: for a rollicking good time free of any deeper purpose, my favorites are the audiobook versions of How to Train Your Dragon, read by David Tennant. The series is just so much fun and silliness, and nothing like the movies, which are sweet in their own right but just completely different.
@@pechaa i think the problem with the narnia franchise is that all their lore is basically a christian allegory, and it means few child could empatize with the worldbuilding at the degree where is easier to find harry potter OC's than narnians in deviantart...
To be fair, I imagine many religions would score rather high on certain portions of the the BITE model.
Behavior Control
Information Control
Thought Control
Emotional Control
And some score really high in all of these categories.
Double standard favoritism?
I know I’m late, but I have an answer! Both C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien are Christians, and all of their writings have Biblical undertones to them, particularly in regards to evil and using evil powers. Many communities love the fact that is warns children away from interacting with black magic, instead of tempting them with it.
On the other hand, Rowling was influenced by Freemasonry and, somewhat, by black magic. Therefore, all of her writings have Masonic and pagan undertones, which teach children that interacting with black magic is neutral, and may benefit them.
In Christianity, we are strictly warned to never dabble in the dark arts, and even the human beings who engage in it are to be dealt with because they are infected by it, potentially bringing evil spirits and lost souls into their lives.
That is why so many Christians refuse to touch what appears to be evil, for fear of sickness, night terrors, addictions, possession, death, and of course, eternal damnation.
Does this answer your question?
I have an older brother, very catholic, 11 years older, who used to be very protective of me when I was a kid. Now I'm in my late 20s and every now and then, when he starts to talk about a 90s movie he liked a lot, I had to remind him I don't know what he is talking about, because I never could see that movie, and that he just never gave me permission to see it. It has happened SO MANY times, that I don't get annoyed anymore: lately, I have started telling him "Oh, I never got to see it because I used to had this brother who was a pain in the butt, he never let me see movies!". Several years ago we started to see some of these movies together. He's still a hardcore catholic though.
At least he's trying to make amends
@@GracUntoYou please stop spamming this everywhere, nobody wants to hear it
There were a lot of things I wasn’t allowed to see, listen to, etc. growing up because of this.
But my favorite memory like this was when I was at a friends house, we were playing a DBZ game on his PS2, and his mom came in interrogating us about it. Heard the word “dragon” and was like “If Jesus was watching you two play this do you think he’d be happy?”
Another time he said “good luck” to me about something and she snapped at him saying “we don’t say or believe in luck.”
This shit happened all the time and it was insane. I’m free from most of this stuff now but every now and then the religious guilt of “maybe they were right and watching this stuff set me on the path to ultimately give up my faith”. But I’m well aware at the end of the day it’s just that. Religious guilt.
Good luck to anyone out there struggling with similar things. You can overcome your fears and worries. Especially when they’re ultimately rooted in superstition like this.
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This is the second time in this comment section I've heard that christians don't like dragons. The hell is up with that?? Shenron doesn't even fit the stereotype "fire breathing, bat winged demon" bill either, not that I assume she would have checked for context. These people are insane
Considering that the Bible talks about dragons along with demons,angels & magic wielding witches as being a real thing trying to reason with these people is pointless😂
Off topic but I’ve always wanted to ask someone this: how do you feel about being named Christian as someone who’s left the religion and presumably has a decent amount of religious trauma? Do you just go by Chris or have you reclaimed your name somewhat?
@@emilybarclay8831 Lol I love this question. I’ve thought about this a lot actually and view it this way. I can specifically make my name mean what I want and it doesn’t have to be associated with the religion automatically. Most people don’t these days anyway.
One person I told my name to said “oh like Christian Grey”😂
I basically see it as a power move now. Only religious people tend to hear my name and make that association but most others won’t. So it’s kinda cool. Sometimes I think of a label like “Christian… in name only”
Love the question though. Completely fair to ask. Also if it helps, I was named after Christian Slater anyway so religion wasn’t even on my parents mind at the time.
TLDR; To answer your question, I more so reclaimed it
@@CAVFIFTEEN I suppose Christian is such a common name thats it’s not necessarily automatically associated with actually _being_ a Christian. I’d imagine an ex Muslim called Islam would have a much harder time of it tho lol
Love how this is psychologically impossible. You can’t decide what occurs to you.
Sometimes I marvel at how liberal a church I went to as a tween, like on youth group night we got to play flashlight tag in the chapel and the only reason our pastor wouldn't let us watch Life of Brian was because of the full frontal nudity. wild
What is flashlight tag?
My mother wouldn't let me watch "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" because "It shows Jesus naked!" Now that I've seen all the Python movies, I keep trying to tell her that that was "Life of Brian", but to this day, she doesn't believe me. Odd thing is, she loves at least "Monty Python's Meaning of Life".
@@TheNotoriousBTG The only way to fix this is to show her Life of Brian and Holy Grail back-to-back! 😎
@@autobotstarscream765 What I really want to do is convince her to join me on a Let's Play and have her play "Trauma Center: Under the Knife". I'd love to see her reaction when the game basically makes you draw a pentagram. But don't know how I'd be able to keep her away from my content, so that's a no.
To set the tone for the sex education weekend retreat, the youth group leaders put us all on a rug and had us wrestle each other until only one person was left on the rug. Bunch of teenagers crawling all over each other and giggling. Their message for the weekend was that you and your body are important and to remember that when you make choices about sex. I still became an atheist, but one without trauma from my Christian upbringing. There were more extreme congregations from the rural areas in my state, which I had contact with when we met up. They helped me along the path to atheism. They weren’t traumatic *for me*, just off putting.
What's the difference?
One word: CONSENT!
Say it louder for those in the back!
@@brendanmcwilliams4072
🗯ENTHUSIASTIC CONSENT🗯
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A word sadly not in the evangelical dictionary. No wonder they don't understand the difference.
I think I was about 6 or 7 years old when this happened. There wasn’t any school this day and I heard loud music coming from the living room. It was my mom listening to this preaching from her church. They were preaching about how disney and all sorts of other media is corrupting us and how we’re gonna turn out evil and like the “rest of the world” if we don’t throw everything out of our minds or something. So as my loving mother did for her kids, she started to throw literally every dvd, vhs, video game and console that we had laying in the house. As well as all sorts of disney themed items we had around the house. That day is still fresh in my mind, I’m 24 now.
That little era of that whole crazy christian belief died down once I got older. I got my consoles back and my games little by little. I started listening to metal and all sorts of music I liked growing up. Back in 2021 my mom had started going down that rabbit hole again. She’s the type to believe anything that comes from the church now and I started to see little bits of what had happened years ago come back up. History was repeating itself and she started to throw away all the things that weren’t of God. Slowly it spread to my sisters as well and they’re on the boat now. I honestly feel like the black sheep of the family because of my strong stance against their beliefs. I remember a time when my older sister bought herself a new ps5 with some games to play, only to return it 2 weeks later. It’s honestly sad and heartbreaking to see my younger sisters go through this indoctrination of beliefs that my mom and her church puts them through. They shut down any type of argument or any type of opposition as,” oh you’re full of demons or you don’t have enough faith”. My mom would also put us through terrible financial difficulties because in her words, “I put it in the hands of God”.
Still struggling till this day, am moving out in the summer so I won’t be trapped here for too long. I don’t have a good relationship with my family because of it.
I remember being a kid and being told the same thing about The Simpsons. I was also later told that The Legend of Zelda A Link to the Past was a game designed to lead me to witchcraft.
Ironically, the early design concepts for A Link to the Past had a lot of elements based off Christianity, Nintendo of America made them redo it though because I guess they were afraid that Evangelicals might be offended at it being done wrong or something.
@@mattwolf7698 Nope. LttP always intended for the game to have its own made-up religeon. Early Zelda games (Zelda 1 and 2 on the NES) has Christains symbolism because many other games at the time (like FF1 and Dragon Quest) had similar symbolism. Ever since LTTP the world of Hyrule had had it's own mythology seperate from real world religeons, and the early game's would most likely be retconned if they were ever revisited.
Christianity in the east is viewed as very "mystical" and "foreign." That's why a lot of japanese games draw inspiration from christianity, including apothryca like the Talmud, Zohar, the Enouch Books, and the Gnostic Gospels. Some pull this off successfully, (Xenoblade 2, Xenogears, ect) while others fail misirably. (pretty much everything SMT related sans Persona, Xenosaga which literally quotes freaking Da Vinci Code, which is basically modern-day apocrypha and is extremely heretical, and claims it's from the bible, ect)
@@krimsonkatt thanks for teaching me
@@noahbossier1131 You're welcome, but since that comment was from a year ago I've recended most of my statements later in the post. My points about Zelda still stand tho.
My grandma burned my yu gi oh cards when I was a kid, I'm thinking about actually learning how to play the game now.
No....don't. Not cuz of the devil, but because the "current" version of the game is so absurdly ridiculous that moves take 15 minutes to complete and are single shot wins.
Unless you just keep to the OG cards, maybe going up to sync summoning, then you might get some serious fun out of it. But the power creep in yugioh over the years has been real.
Yeah i agree with the other guy, stick with Magic
Yugioh is still awesome and you should definitely check it out. The competitive scene is bigger than ever.
@@GracUntoYou god is dead, and as I stated before, I was the culprit.
@@GracUntoYou cuz ;)
I remember many years ago there was this one song called "The Ketchup song" or "Asereje". Use to love that song as a kid, but this one family (was super religious) that was God parents to my sibling told me not to dance to it because it was of the devil, and it really scared me.
And a couple months later, during a rainy day my school decided to play some music for us to dance to for indoor play, and sure enough it was the song, and I didn't want to participate.
Years later I would over come my fear and re listen to the song and come to find, most of the song they were literally singing gibberish. And I also discovered other songs that were similar sounding that were either people copying off each other, or it was pure coincidence.
One done was about the Devil, so maybe people were confused about that song - Don Diablo
Then there is, Ragatanga
And the oldest and one that I still listen to to this day-$IMARIK
and I also found out that the song Levitating by Dua Lipa also has a similar beat.
So ya, after all this time I still remember the fear I had as a child. Don't do that to kids.
I love this channel! These video essays feel like a throwback to the early days of UA-cam atheism, when it still felt compassionate and driven by outreach to those in a state of transition. It's media like this that helped me come out on the far side of a fundamentalist upbringing. Keep up the amazing work!
That rockstar puppet is the most terrifying thing in this video
I kinda thought that was the best part in the video. I might be a bit biased though, being that I believe Animal is the best drummer of all time.
It is so funny that the so-called ungodly content is almost always so much better than so-called godly content. It is due to a passion for filmmaking and great expectation for the casts to do well. In fact, I saw more entertainment in a one-and-a-half-minute clip of Dean and Cassie making love in Supernatural than any of the God's Not Dead movies had to offer.
Growing up in a Muslim household I was also not allowed to watch The Simpsons because my parents considered it "too adult." 🤣
Same, but still simpsons is easily 13+ plus at least, maybe 14+. It's definitely not appropriate for a little kid to watch, but it's definitely more appropriate and less vulgar than family guy or south park. Though south park is really funny at times, if really offensive and heretical, also at times. But that's all part of the fun and the show doesn't take itself seriously at all (everything is a parody) so yeah.
Depending on the age, that’s not really unreasonable.
That’s actually understandable depending on how young you were at the time. Although when I was little I watched it and all the dirty jokes flew over my head lol.
@@NeilRichter It's kind of a mantra? They are repeating this to themselves, not to convince anyone but rather silence invasive thoughts that resonate with the message of this video.
Well they are pretty adult, what is wrong with that, they were most likely great parents
One thing I found interesting when learning about biblical stories in school, was how the teachers kept accidentally legitimizing witchcraft and making it seem plausible. I remember being confused about the Witch of Endor story where she is able to summon the spirit of a deceased prophet and thinking "Wait if sorcery is supposed to be a fabrication/of the devil, how is she able to bring forth a prophet's soul?" Why would a person with 'satan-granted magic' be able to intrude upon what was supposedly God's domain? And the teacher struggled answering why such a thing would be possible because up to that point we've been taught that the devil holds such little power and only miracles/reality breaking events could be achieved by God.
In restricting things based upon "satanic influences" it only ends serving to give even more power to the idea of the devil and cause kids to question many things they've been taught up to that point. Instead of the devil just being a symbol of sinful urges/temptation, they make it seem to be like on the same playing field as God in terms of power like great going guys
The enemy is simultaneously weak and incredibly powerful of course!
All points Christians make crumble if one analyzes their consistency in comparison to the Bible. That’s why religions are so heavy on faith and abhor reason and critical thinking. Religion crumbles when we apply logic and reason to it.
@@pansepot1490 I apply logic and reason of christianity, and I see know flaws in the story. I believe in science and stuff, but magick is very much real. I've seen it first hand, both IRL and in the visions I possess of the world beyond.
The witch in the story summoned a shade from Sheol using dark magick, namely minor necromancy, which doesn't require that much mana. She didn't actually revive a person, she merely brought forth a projection of Samuel's spirit while he still metaphysically resided in Sheol, also known as Hades, the realm of the dead. All souls not redeemed by Jesus and not pure evil go there when the die to eternally wander until the final judgement. She did not revive him, even temporarily, but she was casting the spell most likely using the life energy of some sort of demon, possibly a local one like Baal or Ashera, as part of a pact she made with the demon where she exchanged something she held dear in exchange for power. (a near infinite supply of mana) Demons are the servants of Lucifer and the other 6 demon lords, so therefore using their power is heresy against the Lord Almighty.
Magick comes in three types: anima, which comes from natural forces and reasearch which is used by syphoning power from the elemental plane and using that power to manipulate natural forces such as wind and fire. It is neutral in nature, and is often used for combat using elemental attacks and for providing positive probability results or even for altering the timestream.
Then there is Light Magick, which is gained from belief. The most common source of this power is belief in a higher being, but can also be a belief in other things such as friendship or themselves, though it isn't as strong that way. This is the Magick Jesus used, which was granted directly from the True God. Most of the time, Light Magick is inheritly good, and is used to heal and perform miracles.
Dark Magick the final type of magick is powered by life energy, either the user's own or the life force of others. It is inherinetly evil, but can be used for good. Overuse of this type of magick can cause great detremental effects to the user like deformation, memory loss, and a heavily decreased lifespan. Use with extreme caution.
However, due to the forbidden cloud which has currently been clouding earth since the 1400s, all magick usage is blocked requiring a bond with a supernatural being to use any sort of magick. This is the main reason the majority of modern humanity doesn't believe in magick, as it is extremely rare among humans these days.
The being that decides to make a pact is usually a demon since they are more willing to interact with humanity in order to lead them to darkness. More moral or neutral spirits such as angels, elementals, dragons, or the fey prefer to stay away from human affairs unless they have to. The cloud is set to leave the earth's area in 2056, 600 years after the cloud started covering earth (1456) where an alien invasion will occour and the magickal awakening wi occour, beginning earth's final age.
@@krimsonkatt And then you just have insane people, as seen here.
@@obloquious Its the same with groups some people want you to hate, they are simultaneously lazy slobs who mooch on our welfare and hardworking people who will take our jobs.
(fascists, nationalists, racists and yes religions all use this logic, we are both better then them, but they are also somehow magically dangerous to us even if we are somehow superior bullshit)
I'm so happy I was raised in two open-minded Christian households (my maternal grandparents were my legal guardians and I would visit my dad every other weekend growing up) that watched horror movies, raunchy comedies, magical fantasies, and violent action films growing up. It wasn't perfect, and I certainly have some religious trauma from the more general Christian culture I grew up in, but around my tween years is when I began to realize my family wasn't very typical in the church and far less restrictive than others, and I really appreciate that.
Same. These accounts have made me realize how blessed my childhood was.
Imagine purposely depriving yourself of many of the joys you can experience in your limited time on this earth out of fear that there's an omnipotent God who will judge and condemn you for eating "forbidden fruit"? This way of thinking of the world is a recipe for intense anxiety and depression which is the vibe I get whenever i encounter my family that still thinks like this.
I've been on and off like that last 3 years and still think it may be true
I remember being banned from hearing music, watching scary movies, going out, hanging with non-christian friends or doing anything remotely wordly and now that i am a parent myself i let my kid watch anything and be who she wants to be because that's just life, experiencing things and living through this world leads to eventually finding out who you are and what you want with no force or coersion as it should be. I missed many things in this life and am still catching up. Blessing to all my traumatized peeps out there , it gets better!
Props to you for being the better parent! Im lucky enough my parents gave up on controlling everything when I was around 16 so even though I was homeschooled I could use the internet to fill my time. I’ll still never understand how they could be so lacking in empathy or common sense to think controlling all knowledge and social interactions could create a good person
@@charlottesimss9853 Thank you! It is a hard process to unlearn but needs to be done. yes, in all reality I don't even think they thought it through or at all, they were just told and they accepted everything at face value. I'm glad you were let go of that control a bit and I hope you heal for this is really messed up and I hope this cycle never continues beyond us!
That’s horrible. I’m glad you feel better
I remember learning as a kid that one of our fellow Christian homeschooled families didn’t allow their kids to read Narnia because it was fantasy and just being dumbfounded
That's especially weird given how the whole series is a pretty blatant Christian allegory O_o
Oh yeah, if it's not boring "churchy" stuff, some parents won't allow it even if it does have a religious message. I remember as a 12-year-old having to convince my mother to let me listen to Skillet (a Christian rock band) because it didn't "sound Christian."
Luckily my parents (mostly my mom honestly, I don't think my dad ever really cared) have since grown out of this nonsense.
Damn that "guard your heart" song was actually ridiculously catchy though, too bad it's about indoctrination and thought-stopping techniques or I'd be wanting to download it or something
Meh music is about interpretation. I've always viewed "guarding your heart" as protecting yourself from being hurt by people. These "Christians" are posers
Nice NiGHTS Pfp!
literally crimestop
It’s the same tune asi “if you’re happy and you know it clap your hands”
“Guarding my heart” didn’t stop me from having horrific intrusive OCD thoughts! :D