I'm enjoying my 1F also and have been through quite the learning processes for sure. I will certainly keep your tips in mind. Thanks for posting them...Bill from Colorado
Thanks! Hoping to join the CNC ranks in the coming months myself. I do wonder long-term if you’ll find zeroing from lower left and just being sure of your material size is a better solution, but I’m used to thinking in terms of designing in 3D space, so it seems more natural to me.
I will have a ONEfinity or a Stepcraft soon... this is one the best videos for newbies, why reinvent the wheel and repeat failures... t.y. a bunch for this! you're a champ! ...incidentally, when I do my CAD work I now always work from the center... I did start from the bottom left corner for some time, until I realized I could do everything from the center so much faster and simply move the different pieces into their given location once designed. ...I wonder how long it would have taken me to do this on the carving step!?
That last tip seems to involve a lot of manual work that doesn't take advantage of the CNC's capabilities. Why use a jig and swap out trays one at a time when the trays and designs could all be done at once from one larger sheet? Trays are secured by little tabs and are released with a quick hit from an oscillating multi tool at the end? Bit changes and sanding would be done anyway.
@@GeekRedux thanks for the tips. If I were cutting this out of one large piece, let’s say padauk, from my experience, this would be very costly - I find it much cheaper to buy smaller pieces or, better yet, use off-cuts from past projects. Even more important than that, there is a lot of stored up tension in large slabs of wood. That tension will be released as these are cut and will almost certainly lead to cupping/warping that will lead to sub par results or could easily damage your end mill or CNC. If these were out of plywood, MDF or particle board - I would definitely nest 6 or 8 trays on one sheet and set my file up accordingly
@@SJSSawdust Okay, yeah, you make a good point about the stress in a large sheet. Maybe a plywood or mdf jig could allow you to lay out a dozen or so trays at a time? I guess I'm just getting unreasonably frustrated seeing that CNC being used to do a job that could be done with a benchtop 3018 lol
Awesome - learn from my struggles. Lol. Have you broken a bit before? I broke a 1/16th bit about a month after starting out - as soon as it cut though the piece, it shifted and snapped the bit ( didn’t have tape/glue in the right spot).
hi, thanks for the handy tips. Quick question, how do you set up your bowl bits in easel? They dont have any settings or bits for round end bits. Thanks
I’m happy I found your channel, I’m like 2 months in learning my onefinity and have probably made all these mistakes myself… one question, what’s the wood on the bottom right ? The yellowish color one, it’s beautiful!
I agree! It’s Beetle Kill Pine. I rescued about 500’ from going into a dumpster at work - I built my entire enclosure out of it (video up coming). Lately, HD has had a lot of “special” pine - “Birdseye” pine and even Beetle Kill. I’m sure you can find some too!!
height setings... JUST edit the gcode. estlcam is a better choice then what your suggesting to use.. I have used it before but found it very lacking. editing the gcode file for the 2 required high z moves is easy. designspark free and ESTLcam very cheap one time. I own fusion but really only use it for the CAM side of it.
Have you tried setting up a stationary x,y stops. Set x,y once and you can continue to load repeatedly without setting x,y and z if all your projects are the same? I hope this makes sense.
Awesome thanks. As a complete novice, I was wondering what is the accuracy one can achieve on a mass production doing this process? Meaning if I set specific sizes with the cnc, how accurate will be let's say the actual inside pocket compared to the settings? Because I have 200 ceramic dishes (rectangle shape) and I would like to have 200 rectangle trays made and then put the dishes inside the trays (I'd like them to fit as precise as possible without leaving to much of a gap). Would you say too much variation occurs among the trays causing some dishes to fit and some don't?
To be honest - I don’t think there is any variance, or at least, there shouldn’t be. Any of the mistakes that have been made, were made by me not setting my file up correctly. You could set up a 90 degree stop and then just set your pieces against that, so you would have the same start coordinates everytime, eliminating the need to zero x, y and z each time
Absolutely. It’s very easy to use. The most difficult part is learning some sort of software- but if you use Easel - that’s the most beginner friendly. Kids today are very electronic savvy - so they’ll probably figure it out quicker than I did. Lol. You would be doing those kids a great service, teaching them CNC!
It is 1/2” thick rubber mat from Amazon and it’s available in different thicknesses and sizes. Mine is 1/2” thick and the sheets were 24” x 48” I believe. Very easy to cut and I used spray adhesive and screws with fender washers to hold it secure. It cuts down on the sound pretty well and I imagine 3/4” is even better.
@@SJSSawdust thanks! I have sound foam in mine 2x2’s and although they help with noise they keep falling off. I’m going to invest in some solid one piece like you have. May be easier to keep it attached. Thank you!!
That depends on many factors. In my experience, craft shows do better because people can hold the item in their hands and select the exact one they want
@@SJSSawdust Me too man me too, but lets not fool each other. If you where making big money on the cnc you wouldn't be spending your time making UA-cam video's? But I can be wrong like I am pretty sure that is the reason people make these kind of UA-cam video's since almost every CNC video description is full with referral links. There is nothing wrong with doing this, but let just be honest to each other and don't give false hope to our fellow makers.
@@MisterMakerNL I’m not quite sure what you’re getting at. I make these videos to help other viewers learn and grow their skills- and my own. I am new to CNC ( about 10 months in) and I would have loved to see these tips and tricks myself when I first began. I am hoping these videos inspire others and they reach out to the community and share some of their tips/tricks - so we all can grow.
@@SJSSawdust As I said nothing wrong with these video's and nothing wrong with making money from it. But you can inspire people too quit there jobs and start doing the cnc business then discover they never gonna make ends needs, because all those people on UA-cam where making money of guys like him that buy the cnc machine from there referral links and not actually from the business they are promoting. I am not this kind of guy, but I am tired of referral links video's most of them are just glorified advertisements. Which come over as genuine honest tips video's. Just like you say in your reaction, but they are ads and should be marked as advertisement. You get paid from the products you promote.
@@MisterMakerNL You have a point, but what you describe has been done in many ways before the Internet technology was available... many generations back, all the way back to before known history. The only difference is that today, all of this happens much faster and with much more density... that can be a shock and create indignation. It is up to each one of us, to do proper due diligence and not fall in the traps... the learning experience can't hardly be better and faster when people share, no matter how... and we all now have access to all of it instantly staring into the educational window that the Internet is! Just shun anyone you deem a profiteer... that's all. o!!! then you will have to come off the Planet... sadly!
Love this tips..great channel ..keep the tips coming..new user myself..have a Shopbot CNC
@@bobmonday925 you are far too kind! Thanks for the support !
Thanks man... I just ordered my first CNC... trying to learn what I can from others to minimize my own errors. Thanks for all the tips. Live well
No problem at all - it’s been quite the learning experience. You’ll get the hang of it
I'm sure I will... and thanks to folks like you, I should be able to get through it with fewer issues.
Thanks again mate... cheers!
Live well
I'm enjoying my 1F also and have been through quite the learning processes for sure.
I will certainly keep your tips in mind. Thanks for posting them...Bill from Colorado
Bill, This video could have been 4 times as long if I wanted to post ALL my errors. lol. Keep at it man, continue to learn and grow
Thanks! Hoping to join the CNC ranks in the coming months myself. I do wonder long-term if you’ll find zeroing from lower left and just being sure of your material size is a better solution, but I’m used to thinking in terms of designing in 3D space, so it seems more natural to me.
Thanks for the tips! Cannot wait to watch more
helpful videos.
We all suffer through these very issues!
Yep! I still do… 2 years later. Lol
Great video and good production, keep it up man!
I sincerely appreciate that!
I will have a ONEfinity or a Stepcraft soon... this is one the best videos for newbies, why reinvent the wheel and repeat failures... t.y. a bunch for this! you're a champ!
...incidentally, when I do my CAD work I now always work from the center... I did start from the bottom left corner for some time, until I realized I could do everything from the center so much faster and simply move the different pieces into their given location once designed.
...I wonder how long it would have taken me to do this on the carving step!?
Enjoy your CNC journey! Thanks for the comment!
That last tip seems to involve a lot of manual work that doesn't take advantage of the CNC's capabilities. Why use a jig and swap out trays one at a time when the trays and designs could all be done at once from one larger sheet? Trays are secured by little tabs and are released with a quick hit from an oscillating multi tool at the end? Bit changes and sanding would be done anyway.
@@GeekRedux thanks for the tips. If I were cutting this out of one large piece, let’s say padauk, from my experience, this would be very costly - I find it much cheaper to buy smaller pieces or, better yet, use off-cuts from past projects. Even more important than that, there is a lot of stored up tension in large slabs of wood. That tension will be released as these are cut and will almost certainly lead to cupping/warping that will lead to sub par results or could easily damage your end mill or CNC. If these were out of plywood, MDF or particle board - I would definitely nest 6 or 8 trays on one sheet and set my file up accordingly
@@SJSSawdust Okay, yeah, you make a good point about the stress in a large sheet. Maybe a plywood or mdf jig could allow you to lay out a dozen or so trays at a time? I guess I'm just getting unreasonably frustrated seeing that CNC being used to do a job that could be done with a benchtop 3018 lol
Very good tips. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Man, great stuff from a struggling CMCer, seems like you're going to save me some trouble. I'm up to three major boo boo's to date!
Awesome - learn from my struggles. Lol. Have you broken a bit before? I broke a 1/16th bit about a month after starting out - as soon as it cut though the piece, it shifted and snapped the bit ( didn’t have tape/glue in the right spot).
If you set up your files to probe from the machine bed you would avoid the safety height issue
I always zero from the center when I can sometimes you just can't.
hi, thanks for the handy tips. Quick question, how do you set up your bowl bits in easel? They dont have any settings or bits for round end bits. Thanks
Thanks. Under the bit selection, you can manually enter your specific bits’ details
Thank you for these!
I hope I can help you avoid the same headaches I had. Lol.
I’m happy I found your channel, I’m like 2 months in learning my onefinity and have probably made all these mistakes myself… one question, what’s the wood on the bottom right ? The yellowish color one, it’s beautiful!
I agree! It’s Beetle Kill Pine. I rescued about 500’ from going into a dumpster at work - I built my entire enclosure out of it (video up coming). Lately, HD has had a lot of “special” pine - “Birdseye” pine and even Beetle Kill. I’m sure you can find some too!!
@@SJSSawdust looking forward to it, thanks!
Thanks for sharing, nice trays! To make thousands of these, we need some sort of automation...??!?! Subscribed!
Thanks for watching!
The safety height thing would have gotten me for sure. That's one of those things that royally pisses me of but there's no one else to blame but me.
Yeah, I was more mad at myself!
Good tips, good progress.
It is definitely a learning process
@@SJSSawdust Thats the part I am weary off when I get my shapeoko.
Thanks!
Great video! Really good tips. What species of wood is the brownish red featured in your video?
That is Padauk finished with mineral oil. I love the way it looks when finished!
height setings... JUST edit the gcode. estlcam is a better choice then what your suggesting to use.. I have used it before but found it very lacking. editing the gcode file for the 2 required high z moves is easy. designspark free and ESTLcam very cheap one time. I own fusion but really only use it for the CAM side of it.
Number one error. Make your wood the same size. It is easier and faster to probe from the bottom left.
Exactly! I’ve changed-up the way I do things now
Have you tried setting up a stationary x,y stops.
Set x,y once and you can continue to load repeatedly without setting x,y and z if all your projects are the same? I hope this makes sense.
Yes! That works perfectly. You can cut a 2” wide, 16” x 16” 90 degree angle, clamp that down and set zero once from the corner
Awesome thanks. As a complete novice, I was wondering what is the accuracy one can achieve on a mass production doing this process? Meaning if I set specific sizes with the cnc, how accurate will be let's say the actual inside pocket compared to the settings? Because I have 200 ceramic dishes (rectangle shape) and I would like to have 200 rectangle trays made and then put the dishes inside the trays (I'd like them to fit as precise as possible without leaving to much of a gap). Would you say too much variation occurs among the trays causing some dishes to fit and some don't?
To be honest - I don’t think there is any variance, or at least, there shouldn’t be. Any of the mistakes that have been made, were made by me not setting my file up correctly. You could set up a 90 degree stop and then just set your pieces against that, so you would have the same start coordinates everytime, eliminating the need to zero x, y and z each time
@@SJSSawdust Cool! Thanks a lot mate
Did you sand any of these? I love doing bowls but I find that I need to sand them afterwards and it makes it not worth the time
Check this video out. No sanding needed! ua-cam.com/video/Hs_qNwbQumI/v-deo.html&feature=share
There's no way to program in to the G code the height of the 2 operations when it crosses to the next tray?
By now you've figured out another name for cnc is "mistake amplifier" ...
Yep- it does exactly what you tell it to do. If you input the wrong info, you’ll get the wrong product out.
thanks.. New sub's here
Come on in - thanks for watching!
@@SJSSawdust 🤩
Do you think the Onefinity is within the limits of what 8th grade woodshop kids could handle?
Absolutely. It’s very easy to use. The most difficult part is learning some sort of software- but if you use Easel - that’s the most beginner friendly. Kids today are very electronic savvy - so they’ll probably figure it out quicker than I did. Lol. You would be doing those kids a great service, teaching them CNC!
nice video
Thank you. Hopefully some of these tips can help you avoid ruining one of your work pieces
What cnc do you use?
Onefinity. And I love it. Very robust 😀
What sound proofing is that? I’m looking to make changes to my enclosure
It is 1/2” thick rubber mat from Amazon and it’s available in different thicknesses and sizes. Mine is 1/2” thick and the sheets were 24” x 48” I believe. Very easy to cut and I used spray adhesive and screws with fender washers to hold it secure. It cuts down on the sound pretty well and I imagine 3/4” is even better.
@@SJSSawdust thanks! I have sound foam in mine 2x2’s and although they help with noise they keep falling off. I’m going to invest in some solid one piece like you have. May be easier to keep it attached. Thank you!!
How much can you get for these pieces?
That depends on many factors. In my experience, craft shows do better because people can hold the item in their hands and select the exact one they want
Do be honest, do you make more money from UA-cam/referral links or these trays you are selling?
I do it because I LOVE CNC!
@@SJSSawdust Me too man me too, but lets not fool each other. If you where making big money on the cnc you wouldn't be spending your time making UA-cam video's? But I can be wrong like I am pretty sure that is the reason people make these kind of UA-cam video's since almost every CNC video description is full with referral links. There is nothing wrong with doing this, but let just be honest to each other and don't give false hope to our fellow makers.
@@MisterMakerNL I’m not quite sure what you’re getting at. I make these videos to help other viewers learn and grow their skills- and my own. I am new to CNC ( about 10 months in) and I would have loved to see these tips and tricks myself when I first began. I am hoping these videos inspire others and they reach out to the community and share some of their tips/tricks - so we all can grow.
@@SJSSawdust As I said nothing wrong with these video's and nothing wrong with making money from it. But you can inspire people too quit there jobs and start doing the cnc business then discover they never gonna make ends needs, because all those people on UA-cam where making money of guys like him that buy the cnc machine from there referral links and not actually from the business they are promoting. I am not this kind of guy, but I am tired of referral links video's most of them are just glorified advertisements. Which come over as genuine honest tips video's. Just like you say in your reaction, but they are ads and should be marked as advertisement. You get paid from the products you promote.
@@MisterMakerNL You have a point, but what you describe has been done in many ways before the Internet technology was available... many generations back, all the way back to before known history.
The only difference is that today, all of this happens much faster and with much more density... that can be a shock and create indignation.
It is up to each one of us, to do proper due diligence and not fall in the traps... the learning experience can't hardly be better and faster when people share, no matter how... and we all now have access to all of it instantly staring into the educational window that the Internet is!
Just shun anyone you deem a profiteer... that's all. o!!! then you will have to come off the Planet... sadly!
Most of your problems could be solved. Better software. Fusion 360 you were to cut all your mistakes. Good luck going forward.
I definitely want to look into some new software. Thanks for the input, I appreciate it
I can’t justify spending $3000 minimum for that thing. Not even made in the US. Plus shipping and taxes? Screw that.