GW price rises? Make your own minis from junk!

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  • @justa12packofrccola81
    @justa12packofrccola81 3 місяці тому +559

    Evil Mechanicus be like
    “Well rested and well fed workers are much more productive and efficient”

    • @MidwinterMinis
      @MidwinterMinis  3 місяці тому +120

      Ad Mech: "are we... the baddies?"

    • @pizzalord3n
      @pizzalord3n 3 місяці тому +12

      ​@@MidwinterMinisNdmech: new shift format introduced! Zero breaks, work till you drop, get fixed, back to it!

    • @blizzardgaming7070
      @blizzardgaming7070 3 місяці тому +13

      Fun fact, that thought process is how public schools were originally created in the UK.

    • @unclegruber5703
      @unclegruber5703 3 місяці тому +13

      "Whatcha got there?"
      *nervous dark admech*
      "... a smoothie?"

    • @MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen
      @MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen 3 місяці тому +4

      Ad Mech: "Wait, WE are the GOODIES?!"

  • @Arachnarch
    @Arachnarch 3 місяці тому +530

    They're actually called the Dark Mechanicum because they were originally discoverered by Arkhan Dark.

    • @MidwinterMinis
      @MidwinterMinis  3 місяці тому +120

      ... and the wrestler Billy England discovered England!

    • @kaelbeuk1
      @kaelbeuk1 3 місяці тому +28

      @@MidwinterMinis I think there was a Mister Sandwich at one point, and he ordered his steak between two slices of bread so he could eat while gambling

    • @dvandrom
      @dvandrom 3 місяці тому +5

      I see what you did there

    • @baalrog887
      @baalrog887 3 місяці тому +37

      The Emperor's true name is Jimmy Space and the Astartes are his Space Marines.

    • @Siege181
      @Siege181 3 місяці тому +3

      This comment had me laugh far harder than it should have ♥️

  • @sfjfilms8716
    @sfjfilms8716 3 місяці тому +54

    This is why I love Chaos. You can just create whatever you want and just say "yeah, Chaos just does that sometimes" so good for creativity.

  • @childofthedarkrat
    @childofthedarkrat 3 місяці тому +162

    I love that you've credited the artists in the artwork used. Now... if only GW would credit their artists

    • @andrewpackham8236
      @andrewpackham8236 3 місяці тому +12

      They don't do that anymore because 'fans' sent death threats to Matt Ward's house

    • @Yurt_enthusiast7
      @Yurt_enthusiast7 3 місяці тому

      ​@@andrewpackham8236GW don't do it to keep down the wages for their artists as they don't get any recognition

    • @skrumpf6793
      @skrumpf6793 3 місяці тому

      They specifically did not allow the mtg artists to be credited when the wargammer magic decks came out, they just want full credit for the brand not the people.​@@andrewpackham8236

    • @nickkohlmann
      @nickkohlmann 3 місяці тому

      Same!

  • @CorpusCallosotomy
    @CorpusCallosotomy 3 місяці тому +21

    As an Iron Warriors player, I love kitbashing Dark Mechanicum goons to use for my cultists and I got some great ideas from this one. Thanks!

  • @dartmart9263
    @dartmart9263 3 місяці тому +7

    Yes! Please make MORE videos on scratch building and converting minis!!!

  • @Sir_Whooo
    @Sir_Whooo 3 місяці тому +101

    The intro was so sick

    • @MidwinterMinis
      @MidwinterMinis  3 місяці тому +23

      Thanks mate! Nessa gave me some very weird looks when I was doing the voice. I think she thought she was in trouble.

    • @Sir_Whooo
      @Sir_Whooo 3 місяці тому +7

      XD I just finished watching the video abd 7 likes and already. I always enjoy the intros you do

  • @L9_Zwenguard
    @L9_Zwenguard 3 місяці тому +34

    You really are a genius, the scratch built one looks better than those printed ones!

  • @Hungry_Bert
    @Hungry_Bert 3 місяці тому +20

    If you're in the UK and want to grab some small wires for free have a look at the ground around the dark green phone/Internet junction boxes. The engineers are always forgetting to clean up their scraps 😅

    • @Yurt_enthusiast7
      @Yurt_enthusiast7 3 місяці тому +4

      This I think is universal for both telecom and electricity technicians the world over

  • @Hartmansgrad
    @Hartmansgrad 3 місяці тому +18

    Printing big things has been a revelation...so much so, my gaming group has decided to revisit Inquisitor, the old GW large scale skermish RPG. My eye-sight is failing as I get older and I hear a lot of complaints about scale creep in miniatures lately but doubling the scale of stuff has worked nicely. As a test project, I created 250 pt armies for Warhammer 40k 3rd ed, which whilst the game was definitely not intended to be played at tha scale (points or miniatures) it was a very fun hobby and gaming project for a bunch of grognards.

  • @poMocnyMichal
    @poMocnyMichal 3 місяці тому +28

    "If it breaks, it breaks"
    Ivan Drago, probably.

  • @NotOnLand
    @NotOnLand 3 місяці тому +44

    "My Magos, may we have Glaivewraith Stalkers?"
    "We have Glaivewraiths at the Forgeworld."
    Glaivewraiths at home:

  • @joshuawitchalls3827
    @joshuawitchalls3827 3 місяці тому +6

    Love the scratch built element to this channel, keep up the good work

  • @idizme4316
    @idizme4316 3 місяці тому +7

    I can't thank you enough for this idea. After years of being part of Warhammer community as a lore nerd, I finally have enough money to dip my toes in to the miniature side of the hobby. My only problem is that GamesWorkshop is really expensive, and eBay does not always have what I need. Not only that, but I really love dark mechanicum and have deemed them as my favourite faction, and was going to customize admech army as a dark mechanicum army. And as I was scrolling for admech minies in ebay, I saw a lot of "box of random bits" offers and was thinking that those might be useful for something. And now seeing this video it just now gives me an idea that I could create the models myself by combining those random bits, everyday stuff from my house and clay or something similar (already do sculpting as a hobby) to create my own models. Thank you for this amazing idea and keep up the great content.
    (English is not my primary language so bear with me here)

    • @robinblackmoor8732
      @robinblackmoor8732 3 місяці тому +1

      So, my English must not be great too. I did not see anything wrong with yours. I guess I don't know it well enough to see any problems with yours.

  • @kennymartin5976
    @kennymartin5976 3 місяці тому +10

    The teture of the paper towel really gave the cloak a fun woven look!

  • @bignick2488
    @bignick2488 3 місяці тому +10

    the homemade skitarii is so good I thought it was using the glaivewraith stalker kit from age of sigmar, but no! entirely from scratch, wonderful!

    • @MegaSharkX
      @MegaSharkX 3 місяці тому +1

      That's what I thought, too, when I saw the thumbnail

  • @Neukku
    @Neukku 3 місяці тому +8

    Great video and thank you for crediting the artists at the start! It’s pretty rare to see that in YT 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    • @MidwinterMinis
      @MidwinterMinis  3 місяці тому +2

      Thanks bud, I've started to do that wherever possible. I can't rightly criticise GW for not crediting artists and not do the same in my own videos!

  • @bio-boosted
    @bio-boosted 3 місяці тому +11

    The big roll cloak / shroud is very effective & quick to pull off.

  • @marks6928
    @marks6928 3 місяці тому +12

    I’m here for the hot Quake 2 grenade launcher action. That was the first PC game I fell in love with, and so good to see it getting a mention here. Amazing game.

    • @MidwinterMinis
      @MidwinterMinis  3 місяці тому +6

      THE NOISE! Thoooook... diggle-diggle BWOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

    • @marks6928
      @marks6928 3 місяці тому

      @@MidwinterMiniswhenever I do an impression of a grenade launcher (which my wife will tell you is pretty much daily), that’s the noise I’m replicating. Absolute classic.

  • @Bluecho4
    @Bluecho4 3 місяці тому +15

    I supported Pete the Wargamer's "Dead Animal Bits" sprue kickstarter a while back, so I'm going to have quite a few spares. While the sprue is mostly organic parts, like horns, severed hands/heads, bones, and shark teeth, the sprue DOES have oversized kiwi skulls. And I've been thinking that would work very well for strange kitbashed cyber-thralls, if they're poking out from under shrouds. So this video is VERY relevant to my interests.
    Unrelated, but this technique also works for creating your own Nighthaunt minis for Age of Sigmar. Just remove all the random wires, and employ regular skull bits and arms from historical minis. Anyone who builds such kits has a plethora of spare weapon arms.

  • @andywang7875
    @andywang7875 3 місяці тому +53

    Joke about official Warhammer toilet roll (TM) for engagement metrics.
    "Cover up the crack (on Cadia) with your munitorum special issue bog roll. Remember to praise the emperor"

    • @MidwinterMinis
      @MidwinterMinis  3 місяці тому +15

      You know for a fact that Imperium issued bog roll would be that horrible single-ply tracing paper stuff

    • @liamoneill7692
      @liamoneill7692 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@MidwinterMinisNope, just actual sandpaper.

    • @darrylhilbig6459
      @darrylhilbig6459 3 місяці тому +2

      Yeah, not wipe but scrape it off.

    • @luketfer
      @luketfer 3 місяці тому +3

      @@MidwinterMinis Jesus christ that brings back memories of school toilets, that cheap as shit single ply tracing paper toilet paper that is both simultaneous too thick and also disintergrates the moment any moisture touches it...

  • @mattshaw5179
    @mattshaw5179 3 місяці тому +6

    "Robotic dangly bits..." Surely a line from Carry On 40K!

    • @Mechmaster0
      @Mechmaster0 3 місяці тому +1

      I was wondering if I was the only one who sniggered when he said that. 😆

  • @johnbruce4004
    @johnbruce4004 3 місяці тому +2

    That was 100% back to your personal roots - not that you're a Dark Mechanicum tech priest (although....), really top notch video. Interesting,well executed and very informative. Thanks Guy.

  • @fynnnr
    @fynnnr 3 місяці тому +12

    In my 3 years of doing warhammer I never knew these guys existed 😂

    • @unclegruber5703
      @unclegruber5703 3 місяці тому +2

      Get yoself on the Horus Heresy audiobook addiction.
      The schism on Mars makes me long for a Dark mech army

    • @Yurt_enthusiast7
      @Yurt_enthusiast7 3 місяці тому +1

      They're really cool! check out the HH book "Mechanicum" if you want to get a glimpse at the birth of them, or if you're not a reader I know Arbitor Ian and Mira is soon realising a review of that book on his channel

  • @gryffin20
    @gryffin20 3 місяці тому +1

    Yessss YESSSSS!!!! Bring more of the dark Mechanicum to life. I don't see other youtubers doing it

  • @icesleeping-d5s
    @icesleeping-d5s 3 місяці тому +2

    This was awesome, bashing together a homemade figure, coming up with cool textures and bits, this was awesome 😁

  • @mrheisenberg83
    @mrheisenberg83 3 місяці тому +5

    Get the man to 5k likes, I wanna see those proxy knights!

  • @cannonbo3642
    @cannonbo3642 2 місяці тому +1

    Great build. we appreciate the effort that goes into using images from human artists and crediting them.

  • @MentatOfDune
    @MentatOfDune 3 місяці тому +3

    Looks fantastic. Think I'll try this type of kitbashing with my young-fella and let his imagination run wild

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video. Really like the scratch build. The blue was a great touch. Those large knight proxy would be great to see. Looking forward to the next video. Keep up the good work.

  • @TheOneTrueKit
    @TheOneTrueKit 3 місяці тому +3

    6:06 DISSAPOINTED! I was expecting a sneaky …..’loo roll’ Neil Buchanan Art attack reference there, For shame!
    Keep up the good work!

  • @dustpunkminiatures
    @dustpunkminiatures 3 місяці тому +1

    I love this kitchen paper technique, its my go too for fabrics- for my own models I don't even sculpt fabrics I just leave room to do this!

  • @RickardLejonhjarta
    @RickardLejonhjarta 3 місяці тому +7

    dark mechanicum has such potential
    the idea of chaos infused flesh and metal in the most unholy of combinations is at least on paper The scariest thing in 40k

    • @AccoSpoot
      @AccoSpoot 3 місяці тому

      *at least on toilet paper
      Ftfy

  • @pikmyman
    @pikmyman 3 місяці тому +8

    Ok that looks sick...
    Now i want to do that.

  • @rileymitch33
    @rileymitch33 3 місяці тому +1

    Hi Guy, thank you for giving me such a great idea because of this video. I just kitbashed a thousand sons infernal master a couple hours after the video released, thanks again man ,and keep making great videos and please make a traitor guard video soon.

  • @Malachi57
    @Malachi57 3 місяці тому

    Eric would be proud of this, lol. Great video. I love seeing hand built stuff like this. Great imagination and great ideas!

  • @Bobdd0
    @Bobdd0 3 місяці тому

    I really really want to see a squad of each of these lads! Amazing inspiration here

  • @electronicrat3836
    @electronicrat3836 3 місяці тому +1

    3:06 nope! Here because I love all your content and character 😄 very excited for the next titanic great unclean one vid

  • @TheHammerHero
    @TheHammerHero 3 місяці тому +1

    Something new from MM?? Now that always saves the day! 🎉

  • @nickkohlmann
    @nickkohlmann 3 місяці тому +1

    I would be so happy if the Grim Skull models (e.g. the amazing grimdark servitors and much more) on Wargames Exclusive would also be available as digital files, not only physical minis. Tracking through a warzone, shipping and especially customs are a huge factor in why I would prefer to have them printed by a company/friend in my country :/
    I asked them about this and I was told they don't plan to offer digital files, sadly.
    Either way, their designs are the best I've ever seen for many models.

  • @RestlessSoul45
    @RestlessSoul45 3 місяці тому

    The solwyte stuff is insane. saw someone digibashing some random skinny arms onto the constructs , that was such a Dark mech Vibe.

  • @kennymartin5976
    @kennymartin5976 3 місяці тому +2

    Paper mache!! My goodness, this takes me back to Art Attack!!

  • @Miniscape-wh40k
    @Miniscape-wh40k 3 місяці тому +5

    Excellent idea. Now I want try this project myself. Also, Guy, do you wanna play second edition with me? 😊

    • @MidwinterMinis
      @MidwinterMinis  3 місяці тому +2

      YES PLEASE! I was actually binging your videos in my lunchbreaks this week!

    • @Miniscape-wh40k
      @Miniscape-wh40k 3 місяці тому

      @@MidwinterMinis 😃 that is so cool. I am honoured and humbled.

  • @jaysunbodaysun3302
    @jaysunbodaysun3302 3 місяці тому

    Man, I sure do live the videos you make! Dont ever stop!

  • @Nomortem
    @Nomortem 3 місяці тому

    I genuinely hope the negavolt cultists come back as a battleline unit if/when they release DarkMech. They're just so cool looking, and the voltagheist field ability was pretty cool

  • @bottlecaps2741
    @bottlecaps2741 3 місяці тому

    The iron hive by makers cult is something I keep regularly contemplating to print. It's a mix of dark mech and tyranids. Very tempting.

  • @alistairwilkinson4055
    @alistairwilkinson4055 3 місяці тому +1

    “That’s Warhammer, baby!”

  • @moldiworp9143
    @moldiworp9143 3 місяці тому +1

    Since I watched Hetty make Oogie boogie i swear to god i see the world as potential textures now.

  • @joshuaedley5191
    @joshuaedley5191 3 місяці тому +1

    really like the scratch build model looks very cool!

  • @NeilVanStyn
    @NeilVanStyn 3 місяці тому +2

    After watching this video, all I want to do now is give my entire army toilet paper capes.

  • @daverage4729
    @daverage4729 3 місяці тому

    Absolutely smashing! Love the colours too. That trick with soaking the kitchen towel in PVA is genius. Definitely stealing that.

  • @KazeTheCursedOne
    @KazeTheCursedOne 3 місяці тому

    Ah yes the most deadly of all omens for the loyal mechanicus, the Blue Screen of Death

  • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
    @PelinalDidNothingWrong 3 місяці тому +1

    I'd love the Dark Mechanicum to become a full fledged faction with rules

  • @nornironlad8472
    @nornironlad8472 3 місяці тому

    Looks good, the different visor makes a huge difference. The weapon changes also an improvement. Followed your previous video to build six terminators 👍

  • @heretical_hobbyist
    @heretical_hobbyist 3 місяці тому +2

    I'm converting a Forge World Goliath character into a Forge Tyrant, and im just about to use this technique to make his cloak. Wish me luck!

  • @thegod-emperorofmankind6638
    @thegod-emperorofmankind6638 3 місяці тому

    I've been a big fan of DorkFactory since I first found them on MMF a couple years ago. Nice to see some collaboration there. Also, I've never seen Solwyte get a spotlight before! Her designs are so damn cool! She also has other model ranges so if you think her style is cool check her out on MMF as well.

  • @soupalex
    @soupalex 3 місяці тому

    "thats warhammer babey" - maclador the siggilet

  • @diyfireking
    @diyfireking 3 місяці тому

    Great technique. I get absolutely so excited when I watch this video 👍👍

  • @theandf
    @theandf 3 місяці тому

    This video is awesome, going straight to my favorites. I've seen similar techniques used to kitbash AoS Nighthaunt. If you think about it, the basic template is the same for any shrouded floating dudes, it's just the dangly bits and weapons that change...

  • @toblexson5020
    @toblexson5020 3 місяці тому

    I love the bitbox kitbash dark-skitari. I'd love to see an attempt at making an army (or kill team) just from spare parts.

  • @arandomlostsoul753
    @arandomlostsoul753 3 місяці тому

    That scratchbuilt guy looks fantastic, cheers!

  • @deividgarmar
    @deividgarmar 3 місяці тому

    I would love to see more scrach-built minis!

  • @moldiworp9143
    @moldiworp9143 3 місяці тому +1

    Castellations is my new favourite word

  • @travman228
    @travman228 3 місяці тому

    Great work! Hey keep any circuit boards and save them as well, I use them for walls in my terrain builds, they make awesome control rooms or power grid walls and doors. I had the idea about a year ago

  • @CyberWeapon1337
    @CyberWeapon1337 3 місяці тому

    What a coincidence, I also have some leftover Triach Praetorian parts and also intended to replace the missing legs, arm and neck with cables to go for a lamia/kraken inspired Necron. :D

  • @SirTetley
    @SirTetley 3 місяці тому

    The kitbash was brilliant, and I was very impressed with the paper towel trick definitely gave me ideas for my next kitbash

  • @pat0652
    @pat0652 3 місяці тому

    Excellent vid that empowers your viewers. No reason this would not work for an Admech army.

  • @samnelson9038
    @samnelson9038 Місяць тому

    I really like the grim reaper esc feel of the first model. Vashtor would be pleased

  • @wolfgangrecordings
    @wolfgangrecordings 3 місяці тому +1

    the dark mechanicum are allegedly gonna get some proper tabletop representation in the near future, according to rumours. i think vashtorr's appearance may have helped there. not really a "hidden" faction though, they're mentioned plenty and have a massive part in the lore since the heresy (schism of mars etc), they just don't have an army yet. fingers crossed

  • @Draekal
    @Draekal 3 місяці тому

    You've pretty much given me a recipe for creating my own flayed ones. Many thanks

  • @RainMakeR_Workshop
    @RainMakeR_Workshop 3 місяці тому

    I find wet wipes/baby wipes with a 50/50 mix of PVA and water work well as canvas for minis. Makes for great cloaks and even tarp for terrain.

  • @gutshotcrypto3559
    @gutshotcrypto3559 2 місяці тому

    the little nightcourt vampire ghoul guys are also perfect for dark admech

  • @sglenny001
    @sglenny001 3 місяці тому +3

    Guy i would say your the blue peter of The Warhammer world

  • @greulich9635
    @greulich9635 3 місяці тому

    For cloaks: VMS produces something called paper shaper that turns paper, cloth etc into plastic like material when it dries

  • @goralein
    @goralein 3 місяці тому

    Seems the Age of Sigmar Nighthaunt could be a good Base for a Conversion, very nice work so far, as usual :)

  • @MosBaked
    @MosBaked 3 місяці тому

    That turned out incredible!

  • @DarkPhoenix1515
    @DarkPhoenix1515 3 місяці тому +1

    this channel never ceases to impress me

  • @CthulhusDream
    @CthulhusDream 3 місяці тому

    Oooo evil ad mech makes so much sense! This is a faction I honestly didn't know existed, I'm super interested!! 💀

  • @chadkittleson5447
    @chadkittleson5447 3 місяці тому

    Really great video. I don't know what to call this style of video but I like it.

  • @sonarchy5158
    @sonarchy5158 3 місяці тому +33

    Can't spell "Mechanicum" without Mecha
    But I guess that's just Chaos Knights

    • @MidwinterMinis
      @MidwinterMinis  3 місяці тому +12

      Ohhhh, now I just want to see Chaos Gundam

    • @RMP1186
      @RMP1186 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@MidwinterMinis That is a great idea for another video.😂

  • @dominickkhanum-lowe3263
    @dominickkhanum-lowe3263 3 місяці тому +1

    I just bought a box of admech skitari for kill team, a week later this video comes out, must be a sign

  • @anneperchard3477
    @anneperchard3477 3 місяці тому +2

    Brilliant video. Love kitbashing.

  • @khorem1353
    @khorem1353 3 місяці тому

    Great stuff. I love the kidbashed one.

  • @NagashUnbroken
    @NagashUnbroken 3 місяці тому

    Fat tadpole... teardrop... or what? 😶
    Fantastic job. Feeling inspired!

  • @sittingstill3578
    @sittingstill3578 3 місяці тому

    Fun seeing Bill’s Bead Bot build technique brought to the very community he pretends to loathe so much. Very interesting video, Guy.

  • @davidchristie1200
    @davidchristie1200 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for this, wanting to do a dark mechanicum combat patrol for a while and unsure what to do for the Skitarii substitutes - gonna use this as a basis,

  • @frankyboi1819
    @frankyboi1819 3 місяці тому

    I will say that the kitbashing in this video is also great for making some custom nighthaunt models for AoS

  • @NoOne-nm4ng
    @NoOne-nm4ng 3 місяці тому

    I'd love to see a darkmech vehicle kitbash.

  • @kienesel7
    @kienesel7 3 місяці тому +1

    The continued price hikes from GW have strongly discouraged me from buying from them again
    …but if they came up with a dark mechanicum box I might reconsider

  • @minime9990
    @minime9990 3 місяці тому

    Another intro going hard, well played guy!

  • @timothyyoung2962
    @timothyyoung2962 3 місяці тому

    Not sure if anyone mentioned Station Forge. They have a lot of 40k inspired minis that are great for bits as well as proxy models. They have a whole Mechanicum inspired line and a few Necron style robots that I'm sure would work great kitbashed or used just as.

  • @TheMichaellathrop
    @TheMichaellathrop 3 місяці тому

    Some of the wraiths from fantasy/aos combine well with the kataphron parts for a very cool admech look.

  • @jonny_leach
    @jonny_leach 3 місяці тому

    Nighthaunt in SSSSSPPPPAAAACCCCEEEEE !
    Love it!❤

  • @Ulrican414
    @Ulrican414 3 місяці тому

    Nighthaunt models are a treasure trove for converting shroud inspired chaos mechs.

  • @kennymartin5976
    @kennymartin5976 3 місяці тому

    I actually did something similar with the World Eaters Lord on Juggernaut for my friends World Eaters.
    That kit comes with enough parts to make two complete riders! And all it needs is a second torso for the Juggernaut!
    It bugged me so much that I used some foil and miliput to make the missing torso.
    It turned out a bit bulky for my first atempt at sculpting, but I think it turned out well enough and it was better than letting like 9/10s of a mini just, collecting dust forever. 😅
    Seriously I hope GW makes a muliti kit for those things, seems like a missed opportunity to not have a detachment of World Eaters calvary on demon rhinos.

  • @thomasrobertson4213
    @thomasrobertson4213 3 місяці тому

    Love how you made something from almost nothing here!

  • @Adamnoisetog
    @Adamnoisetog 3 місяці тому

    There's something slightly like the old Inquisition models this reminds me of! Love it!

  • @ChaseDaOrk3767
    @ChaseDaOrk3767 3 місяці тому

    I might have to get around to scratchbuilding my own Dark Mechanicum models

  • @thedabblingwarlock
    @thedabblingwarlock 2 місяці тому

    The foil body looks like a Prince Rupert's drop. If you've never heard of them, Smarter Every Day has a video or two on them.
    Still, it's a cool mini!

  • @NiftyVT2
    @NiftyVT2 3 місяці тому

    Fine cheese cloth is great for the cape/shroud.