ARM CPUs as Fast As Possible

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  • Опубліковано 8 сер 2015
  • The term "CPU" no longer just covers multi-core, PC processors...
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  • @limacs
    @limacs 4 роки тому +2726

    Who is here 5 years later when apple might have an ARM Mac.

    • @MrWARRIORMONKS
      @MrWARRIORMONKS 4 роки тому +121

      Typing this on my ARM based laptop while watching in 1080p. Still at least 5 hours of youtube-watching battery life remaining.

    • @bobbybottleservice1027
      @bobbybottleservice1027 4 роки тому +9

      Lol, me

    • @frataltay4543
      @frataltay4543 4 роки тому +15

      @@MrWARRIORMONKS PineBook?

    • @zainkazi
      @zainkazi 4 роки тому +17

      The video is 4 years old. Are you from the future?

    • @limacs
      @limacs 4 роки тому +15

      @@zainkazi Sure, you can say I am from Aug 9th 2020, only about 3 months ahead of you :)

  • @NonsensicalSpudz
    @NonsensicalSpudz 8 років тому +2189

    i have arm in my pc, when i install new parts

    • @L3ON360Z
      @L3ON360Z 8 років тому +53

      do some bicep curls with it

    • @vgamesx1
      @vgamesx1 8 років тому +15

      NonsensicalSpudz is it a Snapdragon or Tegra?

    • @NonsensicalSpudz
      @NonsensicalSpudz 8 років тому +28

      vgamesx1 snapdragon all the way

    • @Selur91
      @Selur91 8 років тому +3

      NonsensicalSpudz Snapdragon for phones, Tegra for tablets

    • @vgamesx1
      @vgamesx1 8 років тому +11

      ***** I prefer x86 for my tablets... dem cheap atom tablets are pretty good considering their price.

  • @goshfather
    @goshfather 8 років тому +911

    i7 costs an "arm" and a leg

    • @daviddavies3637
      @daviddavies3637 6 років тому +9

      It costs many arms. I have an unused ARM CPU somewhere (think it's a Texas Instruments part) and that cost just $3 or so at trade prices.

    • @izzdanial4323
      @izzdanial4323 6 років тому +2

      Seriously dude?

    • @ThatWarioGiant
      @ThatWarioGiant 6 років тому

      goshfather ayy

    • @yeetyeetpotatoskeet5263
      @yeetyeetpotatoskeet5263 5 років тому

      Got it to 69 likes your welcome

    • @canbot1
      @canbot1 5 років тому

      @@yeetyeetpotatoskeet5263 it wasn't going to be there forever

  • @alexcoolboy97
    @alexcoolboy97 3 роки тому +303

    Apparently, ARM won't only be for portable devices starting from now

    • @goronslime1469
      @goronslime1469 3 роки тому +7

      Yes it’s also for MacBooks

    • @Agedude
      @Agedude 3 роки тому +21

      @@goronslime1469 Not just MacBooks but also future iMac and Mac Pro designs.

    • @goronslime1469
      @goronslime1469 3 роки тому +16

      AGEdude I know the joke is is that he is saying it’s not just for portable devices but the first device is portable

    • @alexcoolboy97
      @alexcoolboy97 3 роки тому +3

      @@goronslime1469 I meant small devices like phones or tablets 😂😂😂

    • @limaCAT
      @limaCAT 3 роки тому +1

      The Acorn Archimedes called, and also Japan's Fukugaku Supercomputer

  • @akakikuprashvili5713
    @akakikuprashvili5713 3 роки тому +614

    Who is here after Apple just announced transition to ARM?

  • @stealthradon
    @stealthradon 8 років тому +102

    CPU battles? More like ARMS race? .. I'll see myself out.

  • @Xenro66
    @Xenro66 8 років тому +870

    Why didn't apple call their phone processors the Apple Core™?

    • @basstothea.c.e1268
      @basstothea.c.e1268 8 років тому +177

      Jordan O'C and the cores would be seeds

    • @ViolentMLG
      @ViolentMLG 8 років тому +1

      BassToThe A.C.E ^ Yes.

    • @Xenro66
      @Xenro66 8 років тому +34

      BassToThe A.C.E We both know they're not powerful enough to ever need more than 1 core, so it'd be more like an avocado if anything.

    • @dotcomGone
      @dotcomGone 8 років тому +14

      Jordan O'C Because of the negative connotation as the core is the part of the apple you throw out?

    • @Xenro66
      @Xenro66 8 років тому +17

      dotcomGone If anything were to be thrown out, it would be the entire apple itself :)

  • @ganymede242
    @ganymede242 7 років тому +501

    I felt this was a rare miss from Linus. He was explaining ARM from a very x86 centric viewpoint. For example saying that ARM doesn't have a license to use the x86 instruction set is true, but gives the impression that they wanted it and have had to cobble together a second best in its place. Similarly he suggests that because ARM uses a simple instruction set, it can only do simple work. This isn't true at all. ARM can do anything x86 can do. Generally performance might be a bit slower, but power consumption is much lower. Desktop computers can certainly run off ARM and have done in the past.

    • @amarioguy
      @amarioguy 7 років тому +21

      Umm, but Windows RT crashed and burned because no Win32 Apps worked since they were all for X86 and not ARM

    • @hydrochloricacid2146
      @hydrochloricacid2146 7 років тому +5

      Ranjit Singh whats your point?

    • @amarioguy
      @amarioguy 7 років тому +5

      Hydrochloric Acid That desktop computers running on ARM have been less then successful

    • @hydrochloricacid2146
      @hydrochloricacid2146 7 років тому +17

      ***** that isn't relevant to the OP

    • @amarioguy
      @amarioguy 7 років тому +6

      Hydrochloric Acid Just a point. I got what the OP said, but i was just giving my input on desktop computers running on ARM

  • @thenerdyouknowabout
    @thenerdyouknowabout 8 років тому +55

    I talked to a guy from ARM a few months ago, it was one of the most interesting tech conversations of my life :)

  • @jesperhammarlund300
    @jesperhammarlund300 3 роки тому +160

    so much has changed in just 5 years. im here after apple's event. M1 chip is insane!!

    • @CTMKD
      @CTMKD 3 роки тому +12

      It's a mobile processor for a laptop. Don't expect sUcH aMaZiNg pErfOrmAnCe because it's from o'mighty overappreciated apple. It's not insane. It's amd right now that is conquering

    • @UriPhoneCracker
      @UriPhoneCracker 3 роки тому +30

      @@CTMKD lol the A14 chip on the iphone 12 has better performance than an i9 chip. The M1 is even faster than that, while consuming much much less power and no fans needed. Hell, the iPhone 12 can render 4K 10-bit video much faster than a decked out iMac Pro with a dedicated CPU and graphics card. So sorry, but you are factually wrong

    • @UriPhoneCracker
      @UriPhoneCracker 3 роки тому +10

      @@CTMKD also forgot to mention the i9 requires 125 watts of power, contrasted to the A12 that only needs 5 watts

    • @CTMKD
      @CTMKD 3 роки тому +2

      @@UriPhoneCracker All you apple people are not changing my opinion. Stop trying.

    • @UriPhoneCracker
      @UriPhoneCracker 3 роки тому +19

      @@CTMKD I'm not an apple person. I currently use an android device and don't use any apple products. It's clear you just want to hate apple for no reason

  • @thatguyontheright1
    @thatguyontheright1 8 років тому +111

    Forgot to mention ARM is a pretty old architecture, used in a consumer device first in 1987 on the Acorn Archimedes Computer. It's only 10 years newer than x86, but older than the PPC standard Apple held onto for a good many years before going x86 themselves.

    • @MrBearcatjew
      @MrBearcatjew 8 років тому +15

      ***** PPC was actually made by IBM not apple

    • @thatguyontheright1
      @thatguyontheright1 8 років тому +28

      PPC was actually made by a joint effort by IBM, Apple and Motorola.

    • @tuckersaspy
      @tuckersaspy 8 років тому +22

      MrBearcatjew he said "standard Apple held" not "invented by Apple" so his statement is completely correct

    • @ZLau13
      @ZLau13 8 років тому +8

      ***** Not really, as ARM keeps rolling out new architectures (armv5, armv6, armv7, armv8-A and so on) pretty often while x86 has only seen extensions like SSE and the 64-bit support by AMD. Both (series of) architectures keep pushing out new microarchitectures, though.

    • @Mrnentendoman
      @Mrnentendoman 8 років тому +1

      ZLau13 I doubt Arm completely redesigns its architecture that often.

  • @jakublulek3261
    @jakublulek3261 8 років тому +35

    By the way, ARM family was used as desktop processor units. Because ARM Holdings was once Acorn Computers, the coolest company ever, which developed BBC Micro, Acorn Archimedes and licenced ARM architecture to my beloved DEC and not so beloved, Intel. So Apple, what were you doing in that time? Selling ten Macintoshes for year to schools and hardcore fans? Acorn was on top of the world, man.

    • @georgemorley1029
      @georgemorley1029 7 років тому

      Jakub Lulek You said it mate.

    • @krashd
      @krashd 7 років тому +9

      Yeah, but they fucked up catastrophically. Apple may have went downhill for a while after they sacked Steve Jobs but Chris Curry completely flushed his company down the shitter! "We chose the name Acorn so we would show up before Apple in business directories!" Really, Chris? I can't find Acorn anywhere :D
      Chris did create my beloved ZX Spectrum though while he worked at Sinclair Research so I still love him even if he did throw away the chance of rivaling the American greats. Chris made Acorn bankrupt by accidentally ordering his factories to build the wrong thing, Clive Sinclair thought computers would be a fad and stopped his company making any more of them so he could concentrate on his failed electric car/bike and Alan Sugar wanted Amstrad/ABM to rival IBM when he should have been concentrating on smaller competition and couldn't get his foot in the door.
      Three British companies that dominated the home computer market outside of North America and all of their owners were fucking teapots with the business sense of three dead fish! Commodore was the only American company that managed to get a foothold in Europe before all of our companies committed suicide..

    • @Ozymandias1
      @Ozymandias1 4 роки тому

      @referral madness The Atari ST was very popular in the UK, Germany and other countries. The previous Atari 8-bit home computers not so much.

  • @supercakefish
    @supercakefish 8 років тому +628

    I prefer saying ARM as 'A.R.M.' with three syllables just like how I pronounce AMD as 'A.M.D.'. I don't know why, I just do.

    • @darkdynasty5097
      @darkdynasty5097 8 років тому +67

      This is how say it as well. Glad I'm not the only one

    • @pranavnachnekar
      @pranavnachnekar 8 років тому +11

      Cakefish You are not alone....

    • @cameronsmith223
      @cameronsmith223 8 років тому +24

      Like SQL vs S.Q.L.

    • @pranavnachnekar
      @pranavnachnekar 8 років тому +31

      ***** I say it like "A.R.M" because it's ARM and not Arm. Weird reasoning I know but seems logical to my brain.

    • @SRHxHEROSx
      @SRHxHEROSx 8 років тому +1

      pranav nachnekar what do you think about the alienware x51 i5

  • @MrMatapatapa
    @MrMatapatapa 8 років тому +86

    Motherboard chipsets As fast as possible

  • @JustJessDev
    @JustJessDev 8 років тому +204

    3:26 I briefly thought that was Berkel.

    • @TehOnlyShoe
      @TehOnlyShoe 8 років тому +7

      ***** ...Wut?

    • @nextlifeonearth
      @nextlifeonearth 8 років тому +5

      TehOnlyShoe Angela Merkel is a German politician.
      though ***** , Jess meant Nick van Berkel.
      (van Berkel by the way is a Dutch name and they all pronounce it wrong)

    • @nextlifeonearth
      @nextlifeonearth 8 років тому +3

      ***** Quit it with the wrong "corrections". It's annoying and the only one who likes it is you (you liked your own post... I only feel pity)

    • @nextlifeonearth
      @nextlifeonearth 8 років тому

      ***** The fella deleted his messages so you might not know what he typed(and it's been a while so neither do I)
      What I do remember is he kept spewing false information(I think it was grammar related, not sure)
      I just call people out when they spew false information, people will get the wrong idea.
      I don't see where I acted like an SJW.

    • @benhatto
      @benhatto 8 років тому

      +Jess He really does.

  • @MishaMykha
    @MishaMykha 3 роки тому +45

    Apple: *announces transfer to ARM processors*
    UA-cam: Hey, wanna know about them?

    • @adithyaudupa
      @adithyaudupa 3 роки тому +2

      This was released 5 years before the announcement lol

    • @MishaMykha
      @MishaMykha 3 роки тому +2

      @@adithyaudupa i know, I'm just saying how convenient UA-cam recommendations are.

    • @adithyaudupa
      @adithyaudupa 3 роки тому +1

      @@MishaMykha True 😁

    • @ThePapaja1996
      @ThePapaja1996 3 роки тому

      For the second time actully

  • @TheLambLive
    @TheLambLive 8 років тому +94

    The whole point of ARM is that it isn't 'specialized', it's a RISC based CPU.

    • @1ruisu
      @1ruisu 8 років тому +12

      I was wondering if Linus would mention the difference between RISC and CISC but he didn't.

    • @sparkey196
      @sparkey196 8 років тому +7

      +Dan Harris You could say it is specialised in being unspecialised.
      ARM is not fundamentally more/less efficient than x86 because of this. They are just different instruction sets. ARM based designs seem to be gaining a lot of efficiencies since the smartphone revolution but this is just through implementing the same strategies that Intel has for years. Soon physics will catch up with them too and there will be nowhere to go.

    • @Voidsworn
      @Voidsworn 8 років тому +4

      +Dan Harris I am pretty sure at the heart of modern x86, there is a RISC design. x86 CISC instructions are translated (or something like that) to something the RISC core can use.

    • @hjembrentkent6181
      @hjembrentkent6181 7 років тому +5

      He did talk about the reduced instruction set and related differences. Just saying it has RISC says little. There's a difference between knowing the name of something, and knowing something.

    • @lazertroll702
      @lazertroll702 6 років тому

      Other manufacturers specialize arm, i.e., tpm, smu, etc

  • @RogerLopez
    @RogerLopez 8 років тому +41

    What's up with the stock images haha

    • @dotcomGone
      @dotcomGone 8 років тому

      Roger Lopez UA-cam money, and moving I suppose

  • @nathanthecollector429
    @nathanthecollector429 5 років тому +14

    Editor: *Shows PS4 that doesn’t have backwards compatibility*
    Me: Why you triggering me boy!

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 8 років тому +26

    would be cool to see something like an APU, x86CPU cores+ARM or other low instruction set arcitecture+low latency GPU on a single chip

  • @alphagurder5828
    @alphagurder5828 8 років тому +575

    Am i the only one who watches linus and doesnt have a gaming pc?

    • @jordanhosfeldt4087
      @jordanhosfeldt4087 8 років тому +25

      Nope.

    • @ViolentMLG
      @ViolentMLG 8 років тому +12

      Rhys sopniewski No.

    • @pedromarques1880
      @pedromarques1880 8 років тому +24

      Rhys sopniewski gaming pc? Pfff I'm watching linus on my Overclocked Titan Abacus G-sync edition

    • @chakdefiji
      @chakdefiji 8 років тому +63

      24 Joy How do you watch videos on a GPU?

    • @aidanechi
      @aidanechi 8 років тому

      Nope:

  • @Zvangimo
    @Zvangimo 3 роки тому +3

    You need to update this video guys.

  • @anushbhattarai8000
    @anushbhattarai8000 4 дні тому +2

    And 8 years later, we are just about to see arm chips in windows

  • @blackraven8841
    @blackraven8841 Рік тому +6

    This didn't age well.
    Arm is big dog atm 🤣🤣

  • @Seris_
    @Seris_ 8 років тому +3

    ARM is actually a product of Acorn from back in the 80's when they made the Acorn RISC Machine (RISC: Reduced Instruction Set Computing) architecture

  • @richmahogany1710
    @richmahogany1710 2 роки тому +3

    anyone else think he was going to sponsor at 2:05?

  • @PaulPagel
    @PaulPagel 8 років тому

    This video was awesome and funny. Kudos to the editor, and good job to Linus. The sped-up playback makes him sound even more cracked out in these.

  • @KieranWrightPhoto
    @KieranWrightPhoto 8 років тому

    thanks for this video guys! I never knew about this before today. You learn new things every day!

  • @afik1200
    @afik1200 3 роки тому +3

    3:32 aged like milk

  • @HydrusT
    @HydrusT 8 років тому +6

    1:55 That picture though...LOL

  • @jooplin
    @jooplin 3 роки тому +59

    Who is here because Linus has a beard now

  • @BertGrink
    @BertGrink 6 років тому +2

    ARM = Acorn Risc Machine, the first of which was used in the Acorn Archimedes, which in turn was the successor to the Acorn BBC computer.

  • @leodeoliveira7480
    @leodeoliveira7480 4 роки тому +21

    actually, Intel's 64-bit instruction set was licensed from AMD

    • @MaddTheSane
      @MaddTheSane 3 роки тому +1

      What are you talking about? ia64 is a real thing! Apologize to Itanium. Apologize!
      Yeah, Intel's ambitions for 64-bit fell through, then AMD released a 64-bit CPU based off of the old ia32 architecture. With their tail between their legs, they licensed AMD64 and branded it EM64T (which I have heard means Embarrassing Move in 64-bit Technology).

  • @styles18ful
    @styles18ful 3 роки тому +34

    Who came here after Apple’s event and the announcement of the transition to ARM for Mac?

  • @puriap250
    @puriap250 6 років тому

    You explain things awesomely. Subscribed.

  • @rohansampat1995
    @rohansampat1995 3 роки тому +9

    "dominated by x86"
    Cries in AMD64

    • @ishdx9374
      @ishdx9374 3 роки тому +1

      x86-64 is (mostly) compatible to x86

  • @zanpekosak2383
    @zanpekosak2383 7 років тому +87

    phones use an ARM CPU?

  • @Pan_Z
    @Pan_Z 8 років тому +8

    2:38 why did he show an image of the Xbox One and PS4 if they are poor examples of backwards compatibility?

  • @davidgrisez
    @davidgrisez 6 місяців тому +1

    It is interesting to watch this video after 8 years and realize how much things have changed in the use of the ARM cpu architecture. When Apple company switched to their own Apple Silicon M series of processors based on the ARM architecture we now have computers that very powerful in the computational area and at the same time considerably lower in electricity consumption to run them.

  • @zeeshanishaq9821
    @zeeshanishaq9821 6 днів тому +1

    This video needs to be updated for today's ARM race.

  • @korologosmichael0
    @korologosmichael0 8 років тому +34

    Did you put of stock image of a PS4 up when talking about backwards compatibility???

    • @james.w.
      @james.w. 8 років тому

      ***** The PS4s CPU is the same as in the XB1 (Custom AMD 8-Core APU), so technically it has backwards compatibility, its just that Sony chooses not to integrate it... but you do have a valid point...

    • @themaster3211234
      @themaster3211234 8 років тому +1

      James Wallace Sony chose not to integrate it so they can force you to re-purchase the games that get ported over to the PS4. Or, you can purchase a PS Now subscription for only $20 Per Month..

    • @jamesmarsh6853
      @jamesmarsh6853 8 років тому +9

      James Campbell Not true. The PS4 is theoretically BC compatible with other x86 software (eg PC software). The PS3 isn't x86 so would require emulation. And emulating the Cell Processor would be incredibly difficult and expensive if not impossible.

  • @ShuyangSun10
    @ShuyangSun10 3 роки тому +41

    Who’s here after Apple announced ARM Mac?

  • @i3130002
    @i3130002 7 років тому

    You'r the only one who i really enjoy watching him. Thanks for all the effort you put into videos.

  • @Augusto0926
    @Augusto0926 3 роки тому

    These explanations are so valuable. Thanks Linus !!

  • @Brianramos993
    @Brianramos993 3 роки тому +22

    hey this got recommend to me a day after Apple announced the move to ARM

  • @insaaanestuff
    @insaaanestuff 8 років тому +23

    New editor? supper annoying pics and sound effects...

  • @jyjtbub
    @jyjtbub 8 років тому +1

    Thank you! This is informative and simple!

  • @TheLaptopLagger
    @TheLaptopLagger 6 років тому +1

    Loved the cheeky zoom on the ps4 when he said "backwards compatibility"

  • @parthibanarivalagan3119
    @parthibanarivalagan3119 11 місяців тому +4

    M1 has started it all

  • @ABaumstumpf
    @ABaumstumpf 8 років тому +4

    The comparison was somewhat lacking.
    x86 is a niche product nowadays - x64 all the way.
    And while ARM is more power efficient, it can never come even close to the performance of x64 due to the nature of its design.
    Want to multiply two matrices, add another matrice to that, and then store that in memory?
    Well - with the extensions present in x64 you can do a 4x4 matrix multiplication in a few clock cycles while the ARM would be 4x slower at least.
    So depending on the work, an ARM and an x64 CPU both clocked the same, the x64 could be anywhere from just as fast to orders of magnitude faster.

    • @bensemusx
      @bensemusx 8 років тому +4

      X86-64 is still x86 just specified for 64bit

    • @ABaumstumpf
      @ABaumstumpf 8 років тому

      bensemus x x64 has a lot more instructions available at standard already compared to x86.
      It is based upon 86 but extends it heavily.

    • @bensemusx
      @bensemusx 8 років тому +4

      ABaumstumpf im not saying it doesn't extend it with heavy modification, just that it is an extension of x86 and not a stand alone thing.

    • @ferencszabo3504
      @ferencszabo3504 5 років тому

      Actually some ARMs contains SIMD instructions and HW for it

  • @HedgehogY2K
    @HedgehogY2K 3 роки тому +2

    I think this explains a bit about my experience with chromebooks back in school, being closer to an android than Mac or Windows.

  • @sablanex
    @sablanex 8 років тому

    arm has some nice things like the NEON instruction set which is a SIMD(Single Instruction Multiple-Data) extension for arm, and that really speeds up cpu intense calculations like video and audio processing by vectorizing it. And 64-bit arm cpus are on the way, so they are not too far behind.

  • @fridaycaliforniaa236
    @fridaycaliforniaa236 Рік тому +4

    WHo is here in 2023 and thinks this video has to be updated ? 😁

  • @brandonsoto7753
    @brandonsoto7753 8 років тому +21

    Intel only lets AMD have the X86 because more competition is bad for business,but that means less competitive processors. Intel has the closest thing to a monopoly legally possible! Another flaw in free market economies.

    • @tifforo1
      @tifforo1 7 років тому +2

      But the technology has been advancing, so it's a much better example of a near-monopoly duopoly where innovation still occurs compared to something like the graphing calculator market, where testing boards basically only allow TI giving them a monopoly despite the existence of competition.

    • @Drewitall54
      @Drewitall54 6 років тому +8

      AMD invented the x64 extension to x86 that allows 64 bit instruction and licences it out to intel, so whos letting who

    • @sebastianhernandez1228
      @sebastianhernandez1228 5 років тому +1

      thank god amd has come back and competition is a thing again

    • @benpalumbo6726
      @benpalumbo6726 5 років тому +2

      How is that a flaw in the free market? They created the instruction set, it is their intellectual property, and they profit from it.

    • @anshsharma9142
      @anshsharma9142 5 років тому +1

      Not as close of a monopoly as Google

  • @embersaffron5522
    @embersaffron5522 8 років тому

    Linus, You guys rock, These little vids in the past...day? Have taught me more about computer things than 2 years of college level class's...thank you for not charging tuition.

  • @GreatAffinityProductions
    @GreatAffinityProductions 3 роки тому +1

    ARM for laptops and desktops are here. Although wasn't first they are the most significant player. Others are watching closely and will be imitating them.

  • @thepoliticalstartrek
    @thepoliticalstartrek 8 років тому +4

    Repackaged CISC vs RISC arguments begin.

  • @matsv201
    @matsv201 8 років тому +4

    You totaly confused the advantages of x86 and ARM :S... firstly ARM is the manufacture. Its really the x86+, that contain x86, ,i386 (32 bit instructions), x87 (flotingpoint), MMX (FFT instructions), SIMD 1,2,3,4.... (multiple input instructions), 3D now (transform instructions) and x64 (the 64 bit instruction set).
    For are its a similar situation with the cortex instruction set. Its really just the core instruction (that is basically the x86 and the i386) that is run inside inner core of the CPU. The other instructions is called from a other part of the core. With processors like piledriver, this part is shared with two inner cores.
    The thing is that x86 inner core is CISC so it can run all instructions inline regardless of length. So they can call the x87 part to do basically inline instructions. For Cortex based CPU the inner cor is RISC but the other external instructions may not be. So the inner core have to package the instructions, send them away, wait for a answer and keep processing. This lockes up the processor while other instructions is made. The 8 cores or so can still work independent of each other, but they can´t work independent of there FPU:s.
    This is one of the reasons why x86 processors is faster. The other is that it have a higher instruction per clock cycle, and this basically is a increased flexibility of the x86 core.
    Its true in principle that a RISC core consumes less power per instruction than a CISC core, but that its really just true for inner core instructions. On modern CPU there is so much ad on so it don´t really matter any more. You can run x86 just fine on a smart phone. But its basically the same problem as ruining a ARM on a desktop. Most programs is not made for it. When ARM first entered the smart phone market there was a diverse flurry of processors, they beat out all of the strange once, so now they are basically the only one. The program converged at the cortex instructions so now its quite hard for any other instructions to enter the market. Its still a lot easier than in the desktop market, but still quite hard.
    Today in high performance operation a x86 is still more power efficient than then a cortex CPU on high work loads. This was not always true, and its mostly the case from intel i series processor.

    • @tifforo1
      @tifforo1 7 років тому

      It took me a few reads to figure out that "cortex instruction set" is what ARM uses.

    • @matsv201
      @matsv201 7 років тому

      Yea... but only the modern once. I don´t know the level of compability, but older ARM processors use a other instruction set, While similar, not identical.

  • @ichhaiezv6395
    @ichhaiezv6395 3 роки тому +2

    Who is here 5 years later after apple announcing ARM M1 Mac?

  • @chan.sorman
    @chan.sorman 8 років тому

    ARM was in PCs such as the BBC Micro and Acorn Archimedes Series. They run on RISC. The ARM company is based in Cambridge, UK and license the architecture out. It was spun out acorn computers when it liquidated in the mid 90s.

  • @adamgolden1802
    @adamgolden1802 8 років тому +41

    Can we get leg CPU's next?

  • @SuperVt100
    @SuperVt100 5 років тому +5

    Was this the old
    RISC vs CISC
    argument?

  • @AlvinLee007
    @AlvinLee007 8 років тому

    The SquareSpace ad at the end... Only Linus could pull it off. =) Cause I watched it through all the way to the end since Linus was doing his best.

  • @towsifahamedlabib3642
    @towsifahamedlabib3642 3 роки тому

    We need a episode 2 of this

  • @FPStexan
    @FPStexan 8 років тому +24

    ARM stands for Advanced RISC Machines btw

  • @erfanebrahimi9446
    @erfanebrahimi9446 8 років тому +3

    The dark net as fast as possible

  • @donkeytits1
    @donkeytits1 6 років тому +2

    Nice first generation Subaru Legacy cluster there at 0:17, for anyone wondering

  • @jamillejeez4404
    @jamillejeez4404 8 років тому

    i dont know why but linus ads are the only ads i like to watch(not him specifically but everyone on his channels)

  • @MrSlurpyGames
    @MrSlurpyGames 7 років тому +12

    "Dildo racing" ok.

  • @omarlite
    @omarlite 3 роки тому +15

    Who's here after Apple Silicon (ARM) announcement?

  • @DAVIDGREGORYKERR
    @DAVIDGREGORYKERR 8 років тому

    the ARM chips where designed in the United Kingdom which was part of ACORN computers which was spun off to make ARM chips, The inventor of the ARM PROCESSOR is Sophie Wilson.

  • @Chrisivisi
    @Chrisivisi 8 років тому

    This is getting my favorite channel of youtube

  • @VermilionRua
    @VermilionRua 8 років тому +53

    Dildo race? What?

    • @peterseagrave4051
      @peterseagrave4051 8 років тому +27

      Yeah... Just... Yeah. That happened.

    • @VermilionRua
      @VermilionRua 8 років тому +11

      I could ask so many questions, but I don't want to hear any of the answers.

    • @james.w.
      @james.w. 8 років тому +4

      That Blind Guy Watch it :D Hilarity ensues.

  • @alatrix06
    @alatrix06 4 роки тому +3

    It's unlikely to replace x86 In windows pc's anytime soon..
    2019: Surface with Arm CPU's

    • @justauser
      @justauser 4 роки тому +3

      Yeah but it's hot garbage..

    • @alatrix06
      @alatrix06 4 роки тому

      @@Alexander-jr8nw The new surface did! It uses an emulator

  • @AJMansfield1
    @AJMansfield1 8 років тому

    For the really small power-sipping devices like door locks, its more likely that they would use something like a PIC or Atmel AVR processor, running at a few kilohertz (if that), rather than the relatively power-hungry ARM. (Although my personal favorite is the SX instruction set.)

  • @peppi69
    @peppi69 3 роки тому +2

    just watched WWDC2020 an Apple has an ARM Mac

  • @Gizego
    @Gizego 7 років тому +4

    can i emulate x86 on arm?

    • @Slenderman63323
      @Slenderman63323 7 років тому +1

      You can try, but it requires porting over and changing a bunch of code.

    • @jamiecarranza8847
      @jamiecarranza8847 7 років тому

      Gizego from what I understand it's possible but it's super slow

    • @Gizego
      @Gizego 7 років тому +1

      I just wanted to run my windows forms game in a raspberry Pi 3

    • @DanielMonteiroNit
      @DanielMonteiroNit 6 років тому +1

      DOSBox runs fine on ARM. In fact, I'm able to cross-compile from ARM to x86 using a Raspberry Pi 3

  • @adwaitagnome
    @adwaitagnome 8 років тому +3

    i think via also makes x86 cpu's.

    • @MaddTheSane
      @MaddTheSane 3 роки тому

      Cyrix also made x86-compatible CPUs. Which, I've heard, had the best integer math core out there.

  • @vandeljasonstrypper6734
    @vandeljasonstrypper6734 7 років тому

    hey linus I have a question
    if like what you said does a chip operate in a keyboard like razer or a mouse
    does it use ARM technology or razer made it themself ??

  • @Lickemstick
    @Lickemstick 8 років тому +1

    Thanks Linus! Another home run. Best tech information videos to have ever been brought to life.

  • @Quarker
    @Quarker 8 років тому +4

    Do one on AVR processors!

    • @SRHxHEROSx
      @SRHxHEROSx 8 років тому

      Quarker what do you think about the alienware x51 i5

    • @laurentiucristian1
      @laurentiucristian1 8 років тому

      Quarker They are based on ARM's architecture, so they already explains what matters in this video.

    • @sdgelectronics
      @sdgelectronics 8 років тому

      Laurentiu D Only a small percentage are. Most are based on Atmel's original architecture.

    • @ferencszabo3504
      @ferencszabo3504 5 років тому

      Better not. We can read the wiki pages ourselves.

  • @batra204
    @batra204 3 роки тому +3

    If ARM can't do complex tasks as X86 then why is Apple ditching X86?

    • @Iam_Dunn
      @Iam_Dunn 3 роки тому +3

      Vishal Batra ...Because this was from 5 years ago and the platform has improved immensely.... you dumbass.

    • @batra204
      @batra204 3 роки тому

      @@Iam_Dunn ARM can never match the performance of x86 even if it has improved a lot you dumb fuck shit.

    • @batra204
      @batra204 3 роки тому +2

      @@Iam_Dunn do you call everyone asking questions dumbass? Perhaps you need a lesson or two in how to behave you dumb piece of shit

  • @RonLaws
    @RonLaws 6 років тому +2

    You do find ARM in your PC, usually as a small controller on a HDD or some other device.

  • @JACKOFALLFATES
    @JACKOFALLFATES 8 років тому +2

    When creating XAML animations on Windows 8.1 NT It forced me to cache EVERYTHING in order for it to work. In other words, ARM CPUs are much more limited when it comes to these sort of things.

  • @nadavram7322
    @nadavram7322 3 роки тому +6

    Who else is here after WWDC?

  • @fogglee
    @fogglee 8 років тому +19

    Please don't confuse microprocessors and CPUs. Microprocessors have built-in ROM, RAM and CPU.
    I also didn't really like your analogy about the instruction set because its pretty much backwards, ARM CPUs have more registers so can theoretically multitask better which also explains the better power consumption, and saying one is more 'closer to the metal' is just weird, they're both the lowest level code physically possible.
    I do understand how this was probably a difficult to topic to explain simply :/

    • @skifree0
      @skifree0 8 років тому +3

      Lee Fogg well in a way arm cpus can work "closer to the metal". even in x86 assembly, there is more abstraction in the x86 assembly language. they are both physically as low as possible on their own designs but comparatively they one is lower.

    • @RattuSonline
      @RattuSonline 8 років тому

      Lee Fogg Thank you, I was looking for this (so I don't have to write it myself). I'll add that ARM (being based on RISC architecture) has a reduced instruction set compared to Intel's x86 and thus doesn't have "to handle as much stuff".

    • @n_3719
      @n_3719 7 років тому +2

      Wrong. You're confusing an microprocessor w/ an microcontroller. Example: ARM Microprocessor: SPEAr600; ARM Microcontroller: STM32F769I

    • @fogglee
      @fogglee 7 років тому

      You're correct, I forget the difference sometimes.

    • @fogglee
      @fogglee 7 років тому

      You're correct, I forget the difference sometimes.

  • @dominicsanvoisin972
    @dominicsanvoisin972 5 років тому

    I still have a Strong-Arm powered RiscPC, (with the SRAM Kinetic cache; hogging the DMA port) wow history there.

  • @dlarge6502
    @dlarge6502 6 років тому +2

    Back in the 90's a desktop with an ARM cpu knocked the socks off x86 PC's.

    • @MarcABrown-tt1fp
      @MarcABrown-tt1fp 3 роки тому

      PowerPc? that was indeed impressive. I'm still upset that IBM gave up on that.

  • @jowarnis
    @jowarnis 8 років тому +48

    X86 technology is old. All new cpus are x64 or x86-64, technology invented by amd.

    • @skifree0
      @skifree0 8 років тому +43

      jowarnis x86 is still the core ISA. -64 is just an extension to the ISA that implements x86 on for 64 bit processing. you are still using x86. the same can be said from "ARM". cpus don't adopt arm as a whole, we adopt implementations of arm such as aarch64 and aarch32. but despite the extension its still arm.

    • @LoganT547
      @LoganT547 6 років тому

      Or Intel

    • @ax2bxc
      @ax2bxc 6 років тому +1

      X86-64 wouldn't exist without X86

    • @ladrillorojo4996
      @ladrillorojo4996 6 років тому +2

      Idunnohuur x64 was created because x86 has a limitation in the dates it can handle. I think the limit was 2034, then x86 cannot go further, correct me if I'm wrong with the date.

    • @ax2bxc
      @ax2bxc 6 років тому +2

      LadrilloRojo
      32 bit sucks. The end.

  • @fdsfsdvv
    @fdsfsdvv 3 роки тому +3

    Looks like Nvidia got it

    • @Danish9248
      @Danish9248 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah lol. I literally had to come here to watch this

  • @devjock
    @devjock 8 років тому

    I don't actually subscribe to this channel for the info..
    But the videoediting is comedy gold! Whoever is doing that needs a raise Linus ;)

  • @aymenesengouga5944
    @aymenesengouga5944 5 років тому +1

    ARM cpus are coming to the laptop market 2019

  • @faizanjoyia
    @faizanjoyia 3 роки тому +3

    Watching this in 2020 after Apple released ARM chips for all macs

  • @user-qz4nf5pl5p
    @user-qz4nf5pl5p 8 років тому +4

    Arm sux. $800 iPad Pro cannot run what a $300 laptop with an i3 can do easily

    • @user-qz4nf5pl5p
      @user-qz4nf5pl5p 8 років тому

      Correction apple a has similar architecture

    • @TheBryce98
      @TheBryce98 8 років тому +1

      +Alex Maiorov
      That's because its $300 of hardware in $500 of aluminium.

    • @tifforo1
      @tifforo1 7 років тому +1

      Raspberry Pi is good in many ways. Being a competitor to desktops and laptops is questionable. A chromebook costs about the same as a pi plus an SD card, a case, a network card (for older pi that don't come with it), either a larger SD card or a USB storage device, a keyboard, a mouse, and a monitor, plus separate shipping on each item potentially, and is a lot more powerful in terms of CPU and memory.

    • @ferencszabo3504
      @ferencszabo3504 5 років тому

      Yes ARM is just a toy with lower power consumption! If they would like to buff up the performance,then the power advantage is GONE.And the Raspy is a bad example with the shared USB, ethernet bus. I've a Raspi 3 and the performance suck when is about networking.

  • @sp3edstr
    @sp3edstr 3 роки тому

    Just watching this on an auto gen playlist. I think you should def keep the beard Linus!

  • @JDWrex
    @JDWrex 3 роки тому +2

    Would be nice to revisit this considering the new apple silicone ARM

  • @Peshyy
    @Peshyy 8 років тому +5

    My Snapdragon 808 heats up to over 80 degrees Celsius. My 4790k heats up to max 75 degrees Celsius under load.. I think my mobile CPU is defective xD

    • @SRHxHEROSx
      @SRHxHEROSx 8 років тому

      Peshyy what do you think about the alienware x51 i5

    • @Peshyy
      @Peshyy 8 років тому

      Future US Marine haven't even looked at what it looks like and what it has. :D
      I'm comparing an ARM processor to an i7 desktop processor.
      In this video, Linus said the heat output of ARM processor is times lower than the one of a desktop CPU. Not in my case. And this chip is on my LG G4. I think I'm going to ask for a replacement

    • @SRHxHEROSx
      @SRHxHEROSx 8 років тому

      oh, Im on console right now and Im trying to get into pc. I was just wondering if it was good

    • @Peshyy
      @Peshyy 8 років тому

      Well, for me Alienware PCs have always been a bit overrated. I like building my systems and I'm quite happy. You can ask on the LinusTechTips forums for help if you want, they're a great community :) I bet you can get something a bit better for maybe the same price or less, depending on where you're located ^^
      And I'd like to welcome you to the PC Master Race army ^^

    • @chris195868
      @chris195868 8 років тому +5

      Peshyy The difference between your 808 and i7:
      One is passively cooled, one is actively cooled. Your i7 kicks out WAY more heat than your 808, but the i7's heat is dissipated by your cooler. If they put an i7 in your phone, it would melt, if it had enough power to run it for more than 5 seconds.

  • @amirabudubai2279
    @amirabudubai2279 7 років тому +6

    This isn't even close to right....
    "The term "CPU" no longer just covers multi-core, PC processors..." The "CPUs" in all sorts of devices you're talking about are called microcontrollers. They literally predate the PC so I am not sure why you're talking about redefining "CPU."
    As a quick comparison; ARM is faster, X86 uses less RAM, X86 has years of backwards compatibility(the reason nobody's in a hurry to switch PCs).
    The technical side of it is much more complicated. X86 is a CISC cpu which means that it does more than one task in a single command; this means that programs are a lot smaller(once upon a time, program commands actually used measurable amount of RAM), however the achilles heel of CISC is that not even command takes the same amount of time. This might not sound like much of a problem, but frequency is a very important factor in circuit design and CISC can vary by 4 or 5 times. Because of this, RISC, which use to be the inferior design, became the standard. ARM on the other hand(pun not intended), was designed from the ground up around RISC.
    While X86 is a CISC design, almost all X86 computers are actually RISC; the reason X86 gets so hot is because it has added circuits to convert X86 code into useable RISC code.
    So the short of it is, X86 is a ghost of the past that people can't get rid of because of backwards compatibility.

    • @hydrochloricacid2146
      @hydrochloricacid2146 7 років тому

      Amir Abudubai x86 isn't actually cisc anymore. It is risc with a cisc wrapper, because its actually faster to emulate cisc on a risc processor rather than run it natively. The DEC alpha showed this.
      Ibm's power architecture is pure cisc however.

    • @SpecialEDy
      @SpecialEDy 6 років тому +2

      A microcontroller has the processor, chipset, and memory built into it, a microprocessor is a only a CPU. The CPU/MPU contains no peripherals while a MCU is literally an entire computer on a single die.
      ARM comes in both MCU and MPU variants.

  • @CallMeDezy
    @CallMeDezy 7 років тому

    I freaking love theese stock images

  • @Voidsworn
    @Voidsworn 8 років тому

    See also: MIPS, low-RISC, RISC-V, POWER, for other instruction sets/CPUs.