My friend's dad passed away recently and he loved to play games. Now my friend has his dad's account and is playing his games, finishing stories he couldn't finish, trying to beat his dad's records and everything. I think it's a really nice way to remember him.
That's soo cool! My dad didn't pass away or anything, but he did migrate to Console, leaving PC gaming behind, so he gave me his account. There is no way Steam's going to know the difference, to them all they'll register is the money coming in. Also giving your account to a family member allows them to continue to play what were once their favourite games.
Steam can say anything they want. Apple said "no" when someone wanted to will their iTunes library to someone. However, the court said otherwise, and that family member got that iTunes library.
@@Rad-Dude63andathirdand the EU is (slowlly unfortunately) working towards makind sure those TOS aren't even amlowed to be written anymore. Stuff like 14 days refunds and all those things is result of EU enforcing regulations on steam
@@clouds-rb9xt You can be libertarian within a regulated frame. It's not 100% libertarian, but it's enough to furnish devellopement and competition, while putting boundaries to avoid the most common abuses.
I think if taken to court a judge would agree that a steam account IS property. That being said, I don't think Valve will give anyone crap for handing down their ID and password after death. Its just they cannot say "yes" because then people are going to use that as a loophole to start selling accounts.
A court would rule against them ye. On top of that the law in Europe is already siding with the owner in that regard (A steam account is property. Revoking game licenses or bans is prohibited. If I want to hand the account over after my passing then that is my right and valve (or any other company) holds no power)
I mean when Gabe Newell dies, who's to stop the next guy in charge from going full EA with Steam and its user agreements? That's the part that concerns me the most...
Yeah from what I can tell, you rely on the goodness of people’s hearts in order to get your account back from these big companies Reddit is really cool about this. If your account gets incorrectly flagged as a bot, you are told to write a message to support, just saying why you opened your account and what you plan to do. And you are told to send the message everyday until you get a response (to make sure yours gets seen) For me it took like 3 days for my account to get attention and get fixed But with UA-cam, google, etc., I don’t feel that there’s a good way to get your account back if something goes wrong Being a celebrity is one way to ensure your stuff gets attention and gets fixed properly
Because we don't own the game we own the license to use it. It's a real problem with PC games. At the same time with consoles they shut down servers for older consoles so you can't access patches. Valve could revoke your games if they wanted to and it has happened to people who have bought games from CD keys that were illegally obtained. Frankly just don't say anything and valve won't do anything it's stupid to bring up to them anything about a will. They have over 20 million users and they aren't going to notice accounts being used by dead people.
@@Justthatguy1998 when do we stop companies from going internet-required on everything. why dont they just put user ids in programs and crack down if they end up finding a million from the same guy
@miniepicness ids could be unfair what if you send a copy to a friend and he sends it to a friend and that guy sells it to 5 million people do you get sued now
I have this set as a VERY specific loophole in relation to me. The Steam account in my case is what my family has designated as a FAMILY account. Meaning it stays in the family. Simple as that.
@@Damariobros Already got that solved. We have a savings account set up with a debit card that is in a lock box until my kid is of age. That card is the secondary purchase option.
Could possible setup an account using a Family Trust. If everything is in the name of the Trust, how would Steam identify who the origonal creator/owner is?
Something sweet about a steam account becoming a family heirloom, collecting more and more games through the generations, growing through each persons interest. They should totally allow inheritance rights thatd be incredible
Sad fact, but you don't technically own any game digitally. you bought a licence to play a game not the game itself... And anytime the creator can just stop supporting it and remove the game from steam. This is actually happened with some old ubisoft games.
Yes sadly all the consoles passed the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 you don't physically own anything even some of the games on the PS3 that you buy from the store you don't own so if they cancel the PlayStation store you won't be able to play them games anymore thankfully though I don't game anymore unless it's PS2 because it had all the best games just wish it had better graphics
I think it would be really heartwarming to go through a deceased family members games and see what they had been playing maybe find new games or old files that they spent time on that would be lost otherwise.
Why can’t one just give the email access to their loved ones after his/her death ??? I don’t know why to upscale the issue so much .. if anything, in my opinion, this really helps to avoid scammers getting access to account my giving false death information… We aren’t selling the account for any profit, it’s just for free
I assume the terms of service would expire upon death so anything done with the account after the users death should be fine. but it would be cool if they made something in steam to honor the previous users legacy for the younger generation taking over the mantle
When I wasin high school, a friend of ours took his own life. His steam account has been dormant for six years almost and it's basically become a memorial with good-bye and remembrance messages.
My friend passed away a couple years ago. Bought me the new battle field before he passed and we were supposed to play together with some other friends. I miss him. He was a good guy. It’s always sad seeing his profile in my friends list showling last seen 2 years ago.
Funny fact, when my Father passed away I still remembered his Account info. Since then, it's become mine and now, 18 I'm still playing and Enjoying Terraria. Though he isn't around to be here with me, I'm still playing an old Favorite. Not the same, but I'm sure he would've enjoyed the stuff we've gotten since he passed.
I remember having a thought out this. Gaming is reaching an age, where we legitimately need to be concerned about passing on our accounts when we die. I have over 200 games in my library, hundreds of dollars invested into it, into entertainment, and the thought of not being able to share that with my descendants is a painful one. Where will we be in 100 years? Maybe steam will be no more, maybe the gaming space will have been revolutionized and our PCs will look like relics. Our grandchildren should be able to enjoy our games in the state we get to enjoy them now.
This scared me, I literally haven’t finished any game outside of Papers, Please, Firewatch, and Persona 5 Royal. I have about 70 games on my account with more to come when the summer sale starts..
The contra proferentem rule is a legal doctrine in contract law that dictates how ambiguous clauses in a contract should be interpreted. The rule stipulates that if a clause in a contract is ambiguous or can be interpreted in multiple ways, it should be read in a way that disfavors the party who originally drafted, introduced, or demanded the inclusion of that specific clause. The contra proferentem rule guides the legal interpretation of contracts and is typically applied when a contract is challenged in court. It serves as protection against the potential misuse of contract language. It's often applied in contract disputes involving insurance companies that have refused to pay claims. KEY TAKEAWAYS The contra proferentem rule is a legal doctrine in contract law that can be enforced at the local, state, or federal level. The contra proferentem rule places fault on a party who creates or introduces an ambiguous contract clause for their own benefit. Contra proferentem rulings usually require the intermediation of a court to change a contract’s interpretation or results. The rule effectively acts as a safeguard against the potential misuse of contract language by one party over another.
I still have my dad’s vinyls and he hit me with a hatchet. At this rate, we’re going to have flying cars that you have to rent by square foot traveled.
"Son, I am becoming one with the matrix. Take my account,' and play my games, finish them all. I believe in you"
Yooooo
"thanks dad... I'll miss you."
*He has a folder called "the backlog" with 500+ games*
"What the fuck dad."
@@novamorph 500? That shit in the thousands range
@novamorphine worst part is half of those is rpgs. He also put in his will to "100% old school and normal runescape" so your cooked
What about the search history,Father?
The hell are they gonna do? Dig me up, ressurect me and sue me?
theyll prob ban your account
@@ManzmaniaThat'll just be the pettiest reason to ban someone.
To quote the south park lawyer in the case v Sir John Harrington "you can always sue somebody"
Just need A sueance
ban account or sue whoever you gave the account to
@@Manzmania Good luck with that in Europe (they cant)
Mom: Your steam library will be passed down to your brother when you die
Me: Doesn't die
Me:deletes it before death
I'd burn my computer before I let that little s**t stain have it
@@boredboi6279real
@@boredboi6279 kek 🤣
Immortality unlocked 😂
Lil bro getting traumatized from the H games
My friend's dad passed away recently and he loved to play games. Now my friend has his dad's account and is playing his games, finishing stories he couldn't finish, trying to beat his dad's records and everything. I think it's a really nice way to remember him.
That's soo cool! My dad didn't pass away or anything, but he did migrate to Console, leaving PC gaming behind, so he gave me his account. There is no way Steam's going to know the difference, to them all they'll register is the money coming in. Also giving your account to a family member allows them to continue to play what were once their favourite games.
U made me cry man
Damn, i love that
Yes son play nekopara 1 to 3 as I have done
🤣🤣🤣
Steam can say anything they want.
Apple said "no" when someone wanted to will their iTunes library to someone. However, the court said otherwise, and that family member got that iTunes library.
This. TOS doesn't mean _anything_ in the face of the law.
@@Rad-Dude63andathirdand the EU is (slowlly unfortunately) working towards makind sure those TOS aren't even amlowed to be written anymore.
Stuff like 14 days refunds and all those things is result of EU enforcing regulations on steam
@@ax9897See i'm conflicted as ideologically i'm more libertarian
@@clouds-rb9xt
You can be libertarian within a regulated frame.
It's not 100% libertarian, but it's enough to furnish devellopement and competition, while putting boundaries to avoid the most common abuses.
So if they notice a Steam account that is still active is 120+ years old, what will they do?
Probably ask for identification?
Once steam turns 120 we might find out
@@Sylrieth I guess we won't be there to know 😅😅
Release half life three
Realistically, probably nothing. The backlash steam would receive would be astronomical plus, they probably wouldn’t care that much to begin with.
“Just don’t die and you’ll have nothing to worry about” - Can confirm. I’ve been doing this my whole life and it’s been working so far
It's easy once you think about it
I think if taken to court a judge would agree that a steam account IS property.
That being said, I don't think Valve will give anyone crap for handing down their ID and password after death. Its just they cannot say "yes" because then people are going to use that as a loophole to start selling accounts.
Probably really werid loophole though.
A court would rule against them ye. On top of that the law in Europe is already siding with the owner in that regard (A steam account is property. Revoking game licenses or bans is prohibited. If I want to hand the account over after my passing then that is my right and valve (or any other company) holds no power)
I mean when Gabe Newell dies, who's to stop the next guy in charge from going full EA with Steam and its user agreements?
That's the part that concerns me the most...
@@blok--head7472 That is why you make copies of your games and keep then stored, at least the single player games.
@@Kyosukedono how?
The son of a good friend got the steamaccount of his dad when he died and is now playing as that account.
Because Valve can't go against it. If they go to court in the US they would most likely lose and in the EU they are already forbidden from doing so.
I gave my kid my xbox account so he can keep it living on 😅
Considering how new mainstream video games are im sure the topic will be brought up in civil courts eventually
I mean there's a possibility.
This is something that needs to be addressed sooner or later
This is the most cyberpunk dystopia real life thing I’ve seen in a while mainly because of the way you say it all
It's like video game companies that say we don't own games. We don't own our accounts now, either.
Yeah from what I can tell, you rely on the goodness of people’s hearts in order to get your account back from these big companies
Reddit is really cool about this. If your account gets incorrectly flagged as a bot, you are told to write a message to support, just saying why you opened your account and what you plan to do. And you are told to send the message everyday until you get a response (to make sure yours gets seen)
For me it took like 3 days for my account to get attention and get fixed
But with UA-cam, google, etc., I don’t feel that there’s a good way to get your account back if something goes wrong
Being a celebrity is one way to ensure your stuff gets attention and gets fixed properly
Because we don't own the game we own the license to use it. It's a real problem with PC games. At the same time with consoles they shut down servers for older consoles so you can't access patches. Valve could revoke your games if they wanted to and it has happened to people who have bought games from CD keys that were illegally obtained.
Frankly just don't say anything and valve won't do anything it's stupid to bring up to them anything about a will. They have over 20 million users and they aren't going to notice accounts being used by dead people.
Welcome to the future. "You will own nothing and be happy"
@@acdoobit's not "Valve" that removes your account, it is the game company that removed your game and remove the game from the store page
"You will own nothing, and be happy."
This sounds like a “if buying isn’t owning, then
piracy isn’t stealing” kinda scenario
literally they legally arent those things
buying is licensing (sure its a bad deal) and piracy is copyright infringement
@@miniepicness womp womp
@@Justthatguy1998 when do we stop companies from going internet-required on everything. why dont they just put user ids in programs and crack down if they end up finding a million from the same guy
@miniepicness ids could be unfair what if you send a copy to a friend and he sends it to a friend and that guy sells it to 5 million people do you get sued now
Terms of service will never surpass laws
In austria, you can legally share passwords with family. Valve can't do anything about it
Just like Sun Tzu Soldier said, "Dying is G-"
I have this set as a VERY specific loophole in relation to me. The Steam account in my case is what my family has designated as a FAMILY account. Meaning it stays in the family. Simple as that.
They'll just counter that with "whoever's card was used to purchase it is the owner. Non-transferable, have a nice day."
@@Damariobros Already got that solved. We have a savings account set up with a debit card that is in a lock box until my kid is of age. That card is the secondary purchase option.
That's dope@@anime-mun
Could possible setup an account using a Family Trust. If everything is in the name of the Trust, how would Steam identify who the origonal creator/owner is?
Pretty sure Steam has the last say in stuff like this, so they could just say no or just shut down the account
Me handing down my beloved games and steam account info to my only son before I die:
I feel like physical media needs a lot more love.
New physical media still has drm. What you need to do is buy from gog all their games are drm and you can use third party launchers
Such wise words
"Basically, just don't die, and you won't have anything to worry about"
Something sweet about a steam account becoming a family heirloom, collecting more and more games through the generations, growing through each persons interest.
They should totally allow inheritance rights thatd be incredible
Family plan, boom no longer an issue.
Don’t give them ideas
I got a box of old games from an uncle when I was a kid, it’s really sad that people can’t really do that anymore.
"Dont die"???????
Remember you cannot die even if u are killed and dying is gay
Very simple, just don't die
Pretty simple if you ask me. Fucking mortals I swear
@@killermimmic101 but I am gay
@@Amara87387 DID I STUTTER!!!?
I guess I'll leave my Steam library to my cats because I have no family.
If you purchase a game with your own money and the seller have full rights to control what you do with the product, is a sign of fucked up world.
Sad fact, but you don't technically own any game digitally. you bought a licence to play a game not the game itself... And anytime the creator can just stop supporting it and remove the game from steam. This is actually happened with some old ubisoft games.
Yes sadly all the consoles passed the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 you don't physically own anything even some of the games on the PS3 that you buy from the store you don't own so if they cancel the PlayStation store you won't be able to play them games anymore thankfully though I don't game anymore unless it's PS2 because it had all the best games just wish it had better graphics
@@DrewBrewerTell that to GOG where you can make offline back-ups of games
Just giving your usernames and password to your family member
@@DrewBrewer risk factions...
I think it would be really heartwarming to go through a deceased family members games and see what they had been playing maybe find new games or old files that they spent time on that would be lost otherwise.
Instructions unclear. Im bathing with a toaster to keep my steam library forever
“just don’t die”
bro thought dying was optional💀
Tell me why i thought he was gonna say one gamer was curious enough to figure it out so he faked his death💀
“Basically just don’t die and you don’t have anything to worry about”
Ah that makes sense.
Can’t wait for this to be a case in the EU and for the big corpo to bend the knee and not be garbage
oh hell yeah the eu bent every company known for this crap into the right direction at one point
"Just don't die, and you won't have anything to worry about" If I die, I will ALSO have nothing to worry about
Well i mean if you do just die you will also have nothing to worry about...
"just don't die, so you don't need to worry about anything"
- UFDTech
That’s drm everybody 😂
“Just don’t die and you won’t have anything to worry about” words to live by…. Literally
So if you die, they will have money that you paid for something you couldn't use
My boy is gonna have one hell of a game library before he even held a controller. Only 4 more months till he's here too.
"What are they gonna do, sue me?"
"Only if they're Disney, son."
Why can’t one just give the email access to their loved ones after his/her death ??? I don’t know why to upscale the issue so much .. if anything, in my opinion, this really helps to avoid scammers getting access to account my giving false death information…
We aren’t selling the account for any profit, it’s just for free
They cant prevent you from handing the account over in your last will. EU law is against them and they most certainly lose in an US court as well.
"So basically just don't die and you wont need to worry about it"
If only it was that simple...
just scummy corpos being scummy basically 😂
Aside of this matter, i think steam is one of the good corpo.
Imagine working at Steam Customer Service, and one day, you come in to work to find "what happens when I die?" in your inbox
JESEUS 9 MINS AGO UA-cam IS NOW RECCOEMDNING SO MUCH NEW CONTENT
WE PASSING DOWN HENTAI GAMES WITH THIS ONE🗣️🔥🔥🔥💯💯
I assume the terms of service would expire upon death so anything done with the account after the users death should be fine. but it would be cool if they made something in steam to honor the previous users legacy for the younger generation taking over the mantle
I will never die; my mighty Steam library will live forever!
Just
Don’t
Die
"just don't die and you'll have nothing to worry about" best advice i've heard all day.
When I wasin high school, a friend of ours took his own life. His steam account has been dormant for six years almost and it's basically become a memorial with good-bye and remembrance messages.
My friend passed away a couple years ago. Bought me the new battle field before he passed and we were supposed to play together with some other friends. I miss him. He was a good guy. It’s always sad seeing his profile in my friends list showling last seen 2 years ago.
Ownership is passed by inheritance. Anything belonging to the deceased by law belongs to the rightful heir. Civil rights.
Funny fact, when my Father passed away I still remembered his Account info.
Since then, it's become mine and now, 18 I'm still playing and Enjoying Terraria.
Though he isn't around to be here with me, I'm still playing an old Favorite. Not the same, but I'm sure he would've enjoyed the stuff we've gotten since he passed.
"Just don't die and you won't have to worry about anything."
I wasn't planning to die anyways.
"just don't die & u won't have anything to worry about"
Quite the opposite for me
I am now passing my login info onto my son and I've decided my final words will be...
"You must continue your journey without me."
Instructions very clear. I will now bother with achieving immortality
"Just don't die"
Bro just solved the immortality problem 😂
Judge: It's hearsay.
Me: It's notarized.
Judge: I still think it's hearsay.
I remember having a thought out this. Gaming is reaching an age, where we legitimately need to be concerned about passing on our accounts when we die. I have over 200 games in my library, hundreds of dollars invested into it, into entertainment, and the thought of not being able to share that with my descendants is a painful one. Where will we be in 100 years? Maybe steam will be no more, maybe the gaming space will have been revolutionized and our PCs will look like relics. Our grandchildren should be able to enjoy our games in the state we get to enjoy them now.
To quote someone
"You will own nothing and be happy"
If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing.
"As part of my last wishes, I request that *********** legally change their name to mine in order to become the rightful owner of my Steam library"
"Just don't die, and you won't have anything to worry about" Quite the opposite,mate
When Lord Jebus returns steams gonna be in trouble.
This is why I will always be a pirate.
Hell, I haven't paid for games, movies, or music since I discovered the internet in '99.
"You will own nothing and you will be happy"
This scared me, I literally haven’t finished any game outside of Papers, Please, Firewatch, and Persona 5 Royal. I have about 70 games on my account with more to come when the summer sale starts..
"you will own nothing and you will be happy about it"
Im passing my 1000's of steam games to my son.
"he just left his login info here ah 20-30 years ago I guess it logs itself in every once in a while"
The contra proferentem rule is a legal doctrine in contract law that dictates how ambiguous clauses in a contract should be interpreted. The rule stipulates that if a clause in a contract is ambiguous or can be interpreted in multiple ways, it should be read in a way that disfavors the party who originally drafted, introduced, or demanded the inclusion of that specific clause. The contra proferentem rule guides the legal interpretation of contracts and is typically applied when a contract is challenged in court. It serves as protection against the potential misuse of contract language. It's often applied in contract disputes involving insurance companies that have refused to pay claims. KEY TAKEAWAYS The contra proferentem rule is a legal doctrine in contract law that can be enforced at the local, state, or federal level. The contra proferentem rule places fault on a party who creates or introduces an ambiguous contract clause for their own benefit. Contra proferentem rulings usually require the intermediation of a court to change a contract’s interpretation or results. The rule effectively acts as a safeguard against the potential misuse of contract language by one party over another.
Just don't die as the most gamer response
Imagine generations of games and achievements. Friends like family trees
“Just don’t die and you won’t have anything to worry about” technically if you die you also won’t have anything to worry about. Win-win
And if you’re dead, then you really don’t have anything to worry about.
"Just dont die"
an achievement we can't get
Its basically passing your games to your children, and their children and so on.
Basically making your steam account a family heirloom.
The secret to immortality is just not dying, obviously.
I still have my dad’s vinyls and he hit me with a hatchet. At this rate, we’re going to have flying cars that you have to rent by square foot traveled.
*reading the will* “ I pass on 1 Million dollars” *everyone shakes heads in agreement* “and my steam account” *audible gasps and murmuring*
Reminder, Steam isn't about stopping piracy, it's about preventing the resale market.
That's hella cool to me because I have a daughter and that'll be a way she can remember me and remember the things I loved that's super sweet
You can’t be in direct violation of something if you’re dead.
If you don't die you have everything to worry about.
"Just don't die." Yeah, that's the plan
I dont know if i can imagine any game library living for that long...
"Just dont die" Ok, fair enough💀
"son....here..."
*hand out a piece of paper*
"my....lifes work....its yours....."
We are all immortal until we're not.
the best advice for people
"just don't die and you won't have anything to worry about"
At that point, i would just sign my profile and transfer it all to one of my family members, hoping they would continue, like 9 generations later
Imagine families fighting over who gets their grandparents' Apex Legends skins and banners
I'm maybe old school, but this is one of the reasons why I still believe in physical media.
Good old days when you purchase the physical product and it was yours and however you pass it on to after your death
"You will own nothing and be happy"
last logged in 80 years ago. happy birhday great grandson. lol.
"just don't die" ahh yes lemme just take my immortality pill so I can play GTA 6
*Me at my 895th birthday because I dont want to abandon my Tiger H1 in War Thunder*