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    Bob Patterson was an American television sitcom starring Jason Alexander. The series premiered on ABC on October 2, 2001, and the final episode aired on October 31 of that year.

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  • @catguy00
    @catguy00 3 роки тому +1002

    My favorite line from Bob Patterson "The only thing standing between you and your goals is you, and your goals. "

  • @Shorty_Lickens
    @Shorty_Lickens 3 роки тому +2312

    On the last day of filming, Jerry gathered up the whole gang and said "From this point on, nobody will ever be able to think of one of us, without thinking about all of us. And I cant think of any 4 people I'd rather that be true about."
    They all cried.

    • @nigelcarren
      @nigelcarren 3 роки тому +50

      "Onions... Who the hell is chopping ONIONS in here?" (British guy doing my frankly faultless Costanza)
      Thank you, that was beautiful, stay safe mon ami... 🇬🇧🏆🇺🇸

    • @venator0405
      @venator0405 3 роки тому +178

      Friendly reminder that Jerry Seinfeld was dating, and likely had sexual relations with, a 17 year old girl while filming Seinfeld.

    • @Shorty_Lickens
      @Shorty_Lickens 3 роки тому +74

      @@venator0405 And?
      Have you never opened a history book?

    • @notagreatname3710
      @notagreatname3710 3 роки тому +30

      @@venator0405 ok...

    • @notagreatname3710
      @notagreatname3710 3 роки тому +159

      @@venator0405 reminder that one of your playlists are nazi March music

  • @wmarkdyer
    @wmarkdyer 3 роки тому +285

    There are Bob Patterson ads on the bus shelters shot around Ground Zero on 9/11. I'm reminded of this show once a year.

    • @IsmailofeRegime
      @IsmailofeRegime 3 роки тому +84

      That must make for interesting conversations.
      "What comes to mind when you think of September 11?"
      "BOB BOB BOB BOB B-B-BOB BOB BOB BOB. . ."

    • @brettfawcett2306
      @brettfawcett2306 3 роки тому +35

      Alexander has suggested that 9/11 changed the national temper such that people weren’t as much in the mood for “Bob Patterson”’s comedy as they otherwise would have been. So, add *that* to the possible list of culprits for this show’s early demise.

    • @kendallcuddles
      @kendallcuddles 3 роки тому +18

      @@brettfawcett2306
      That makes sense. Something else nobody mentioned after 9/11 was that "because I got high" song.

    • @petewillson205
      @petewillson205 3 роки тому +6

      @@brettfawcett2306 it Is around the time single cams became big and multi cams not on cbsdied

    • @DrSpaceman42
      @DrSpaceman42 3 роки тому +1

      wat.

  • @russellst.martin4255
    @russellst.martin4255 3 роки тому +217

    There's an alternate universe out there where The Office was cancelled after the first season and Bob Patterson was a mega hit.

    • @73JDR
      @73JDR 2 роки тому +19

      Oscar is in both so thats a thing lol

    • @ZoneGlazed
      @ZoneGlazed 2 роки тому

      The office almost didn't make it in the beginning.

    • @mikearchibald744
      @mikearchibald744 6 місяців тому +4

      @@ZoneGlazed Yeah, the office was almost cancelled right after the duwalhi episode. It was 40 year old virgin becoming a hit and them making, shit, that long already, that star character more likeable. They even changed his hairstyle.

    • @HarryRiceHockey
      @HarryRiceHockey 6 місяців тому +1

      God I wish that could have been the case...

    • @sethmullins8346
      @sethmullins8346 6 місяців тому

      @@ZoneGlazedwe almost got a better world
      There are like ten funny clips from the office in it’s entirety, that’s why every meme from the office is only like one of a handful of different things. The rest of the time the show is just boring and I’ve never made it through more than a few episodes

  • @DeadwingDork
    @DeadwingDork 3 роки тому +1059

    Watching clips from this show just serves as a reminder of how wildly talented Jason Alexander is. I wish he got more roles these days, man.

    • @snakelama
      @snakelama 3 роки тому +23

      woah you know his real name??? 😮😮😮are you a real life friend of George from Seinfeld???🤔🤔🤔 or are you just a superfan??? 🤯🤯🤯

    • @themacocko6311
      @themacocko6311 3 роки тому +4

      The cast was unbelievably annoying.

    • @mrmusickhimself
      @mrmusickhimself 3 роки тому +6

      @@snakelama He's the Claw asshole, show some respect.

    • @snakelama
      @snakelama 3 роки тому +5

      @@mrmusickhimself he’s not going to fuck you

    • @bjones8470
      @bjones8470 3 роки тому +17

      He has a semi recurring role in Young Sheldon where he plays a drama teacher/real estate agent that’s really funny. George was by far the funniest most interesting character on Seinfeld . There were other high profile actors that tried for it. I think Jerry originally wanted Chris Rock and I’ve heard that Danny DeVito was thought about. Both probably would have worked but Jason took it too a whole nother level. Danny ended up in the perfect role anyway

  • @pogue972
    @pogue972 3 роки тому +883

    I loved him on Duckman. A now mostly forgotten animated series that ran on USA Network. I don't know the history of it, but I have fond memories of watching it as a kid.

    • @TheJrockfreak
      @TheJrockfreak 3 роки тому +52

      Duckman was great

    • @eddiedingle767
      @eddiedingle767 3 роки тому +29

      RebelTaxi has a great video on it

    • @hunterrose8019
      @hunterrose8019 3 роки тому +14

      Cornfed rocked and then became the Sprint guy.

    • @pogue972
      @pogue972 3 роки тому +3

      @@eddiedingle767 Thanks I'll check it out

    • @dimethedude
      @dimethedude 3 роки тому +5

      Greatest cartoon ever made

  • @sadeatthewhip1846
    @sadeatthewhip1846 3 роки тому +210

    Jason Alexander is so likable, it actually hurts me too that Bob flopped. My friend told me he and his family were in LA when he was a kid and happened to spot Jason at a restaurant so he got excited and went up to him and asked for an autograph. Jason smiled and patted his head (friend was a young kid at that point) and apologized, saying he's off-limits when he's out with his family but he still appreciated him going up to say hi to him anyway. I thought that was really cool and admirable 😁 Long live JA/GC

    • @QuadMochaMatti
      @QuadMochaMatti 2 роки тому +18

      Is your friend Bob Sacamano?

    • @Mister_MS.PAC-MAN
      @Mister_MS.PAC-MAN 8 місяців тому +5

      I’m pretty sure that was Art Vandelay. He’s a famous architect. Don’t feel bad, very easy to confuse the two

    • @marks6663
      @marks6663 6 місяців тому +2

      so the boy asked for his autograph and Jason turned him down, and that is your anecdotal example of him being a great guy in real life?

  • @madizzle90
    @madizzle90 3 роки тому +186

    It's still a tragedy/mystery that JA did not receive even one Emmy for playing George.

    • @justingerald
      @justingerald 3 роки тому +15

      He lost so many to Kramer! (Also Niles Crane)

    • @Shlogger
      @Shlogger 6 місяців тому +6

      "George is gettin' upset!"

  • @gameb9oy
    @gameb9oy 3 роки тому +348

    10:42 ... I was not expecting to see Oscar from the office popping up as a random extra in this

    • @amatuerhippo5598
      @amatuerhippo5598 3 роки тому +7

      Fr lol

    • @funnybone6149
      @funnybone6149 3 роки тому +24

      Another person cursed by the show that will forever be bigger than them. Him and like 95% of the cast

    • @emk14
      @emk14 3 роки тому +4

      @@funnybone6149 excuse me, oscar stays booked and busy

    • @dm9489
      @dm9489 3 роки тому +3

      Right? With his name tag also reading "Oscar"

    • @Jacksabbath44
      @Jacksabbath44 3 роки тому +5

      @@dm9489 opportunity wasted there for a guest starring role (Jason Alexander in the Office)

  • @Oonagh72
    @Oonagh72 3 роки тому +328

    This show would have been a perfect Seinfeld spinoff. Have George become a self help guru who believes his own hype. It would have been hilarious. Call it The Costanza Mantra.

    • @parlinmains
      @parlinmains 3 роки тому +26

      The Human Fund!

    • @Brinta3
      @Brinta3 3 роки тому +5

      I don’t know exactly how such things work, but I’m guessing that financially, it was more profitable to create a new character.

    • @dcp8600
      @dcp8600 2 роки тому +9

      Serenity now!

    • @YasminSouzaRodrigues
      @YasminSouzaRodrigues 2 роки тому +1

      Bruh that's genius 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Herodollus
      @Herodollus 2 роки тому

      Ohh snap that would have been perfect

  • @lewiskazinsky7334
    @lewiskazinsky7334 3 роки тому +781

    Does it surprise anyone else that The Michael Richards Show had four co-creators? That is an insane amount of creative bankruptcy.

    • @dnasty312
      @dnasty312 3 роки тому +62

      How I feel when a film has a minimum *four* screenwriters 😬

    • @bigduke5902
      @bigduke5902 3 роки тому +57

      That's 1/8 as many producers on Picard.

    • @petewillson205
      @petewillson205 3 роки тому +16

      @@BaranoffIsaac the NBC executive was correct, Seinfeld was hot, a true Kramer sitcom would get numbers, Michael Richard's playing a tall normal detective wasn't going to work.

    • @NostalgiNorden
      @NostalgiNorden 3 роки тому +2

      Friends had at least 3.

    • @mightyfilm
      @mightyfilm 3 роки тому +31

      I don't know. When you take the most popular side character in a series and give them their own spinoff, especially if they're the wackiest characters, you really set the show up with expectations it can't possibly follow. The wacky characters need the more restrained characters to work off of. Imagine if instead of Frasier, they spun off Cliff or Norm. It would all be a "sounded like a good idea at the time" when they ran out of wacky things for them to do. A Kramer series would sound like an obvious success, but without Jerry, George, and Elaine to keep him in check, his wacky misadventures being the entire show would get stale. And that would also affect the new cast members. Would we either have stand ins of the Seinfeld gang to balance him out, or are they going to make him the straight man of the group and give him even wackier, cartoonish characters?

  • @TheChrisHype
    @TheChrisHype 3 роки тому +86

    Beethoven’s Symphony Number Five with the Seinfeld Bass. That should not have made me laugh as hard as it did.

  • @BugsyFoga
    @BugsyFoga 3 роки тому +154

    Jason Alexander is always a delight when I see him in anything.

    • @Michaeljoseph823
      @Michaeljoseph823 3 роки тому +2

      I agree, good actor

    • @bjones8470
      @bjones8470 3 роки тому +2

      Same here. He’s been in a couple of episodes of Young Sheldon and he’s great.

    • @zeusapollo8688
      @zeusapollo8688 3 роки тому

      Mosquito coast

  • @gfcm4210
    @gfcm4210 2 роки тому +27

    A Bob Patterson mockumentary would've been a big hit!

  • @facethestrange15yearsago81
    @facethestrange15yearsago81 3 роки тому +299

    Luckily for them, Seinfeld is as fresh today as it was 30 years ago and is a timeless classic that will be remembered lost after more successful actors careers are long forgotten.

    • @patriciofernandez2711
      @patriciofernandez2711 3 роки тому +3

      @Stellvia Hoenheim I do

    • @TheWinstonSlip
      @TheWinstonSlip 3 роки тому +31

      So relatable like when you have to change the tape on a girls answering machine because you left embarrassing messages on it?
      Timeless!

    • @LiaManila
      @LiaManila 3 роки тому +1

      @Stellvia Hoenheim Eww, Anti Semitic

    • @oldmanlogan9616
      @oldmanlogan9616 3 роки тому +16

      @@TheWinstonSlip it will be year 2050 and that wont get old

    • @fromthehaven94
      @fromthehaven94 3 роки тому +1

      @Stellvia Hoenheim Or if you can relate to getting caught... by your mother.

  • @dylanmcartoonell1536
    @dylanmcartoonell1536 3 роки тому +62

    Jason is always so committed in how he delivers every line

  • @rosebyanyname
    @rosebyanyname 3 роки тому +51

    Jason Alexander has a freaking Tony Award, so it’s fitting that he would semi-adapt the character into a live stage format!

  • @Adarkane325xi
    @Adarkane325xi 2 роки тому +54

    I’ve always said that Jason Alexander was the best actor on Seinfeld. He’s criminally underused, like pepperoni.

    • @John-e4p1x
      @John-e4p1x 2 роки тому

      Pepperoni is a violently murdered Living being that anted to live with emotions and feelings. Go vegan.

    • @pilapila183
      @pilapila183 2 роки тому +5

      He absolutely is. I’ve always felt that jerry is actually the worst

    • @Adarkane325xi
      @Adarkane325xi 2 роки тому +6

      @@pilapila183 I’ve thought that too. To be fair, Jerry’s just a comedian - he’s good enough in that he understands setup and payoff, the rule of 3, absurdity, timing, etc.

    • @DPMusicStudio
      @DPMusicStudio 2 роки тому +1

      @@pilapila183 Jerry actually said this when he gave a speech when Julia won the Mark Twain Prize for comedy.

  • @jamvan1000
    @jamvan1000 3 роки тому +419

    This is honestly an amazing premise for a sitcom. Shame it didn't really last

    • @johntallanger4036
      @johntallanger4036 2 роки тому +21

      Was thinking the same thing. And Alexander seems like he had a great feel for the character. Had to be something political behind the scenes that sunk it.

    • @PureWaterGuy
      @PureWaterGuy 2 роки тому +7

      Honestly it's just the premise of Frasier

    • @DrunkenSlob
      @DrunkenSlob 2 роки тому +3

      @@PureWaterGuy I mean their office looks like Frasiers but that’s about it

    • @gajaga789
      @gajaga789 2 роки тому +2

      @@DrunkenSlob He's a therapist, Bob is a self help guru. I get what the guy's saying, but its a stretch.

    • @mrcritical6751
      @mrcritical6751 Рік тому

      And Frasier isn’t really neurotic outside of a few episodes, for the most part he’s just a snobbish prick

  • @authorrayrogers
    @authorrayrogers 3 роки тому +261

    I never thought that the problem with the Seinfeld actor's solo shows was that they were different, it was that they were too much the same. Bob Patterson would've worked if the character wasn't at all George. The Michael Richards Show would've worked if it wasn't at all like Kramer. Veep works because Selina Meyer isn't Elaine. See my point? Audiences are savvier than the networks think they are. We want different but familiar. These actors are familiar enough that we didn't need George and Kramer clones to drive that point home.

    • @whatifschrodingersboxwasacofin
      @whatifschrodingersboxwasacofin 3 роки тому +14

      Agreed. One wonders what tv execs think while watching movie actors play completely different roles in multiple movies. Good actors become the role they’re playing and can change between them. George Clooney isn’t even a great actor, but Monument Men is a far cry from a Coen brothers’ film, which is a far cry from Ocean’s anything. Audiences can keep up if the actors can act persuasively.

    • @bjones8470
      @bjones8470 3 роки тому +10

      Yeah it’s like the execs were still playing to the mindset of tv consumers from the 60s and 70s. The audience wants to see new and different things now.

    • @johntallanger4036
      @johntallanger4036 2 роки тому +4

      Seinfeld wouldn't have worked if they cut the cord after 5 episodes. These shows would have all found their audiences and voices.
      Veep was kept on the air because it was pushing a political agenda and had a woman in it. Plus Julia most likely has more pull than Alexander and Richards.
      Good show but that is most likely why.

    • @DPMusicStudio
      @DPMusicStudio 2 роки тому +11

      @@johntallanger4036 Veep was kept on the air because it had great writing and was funny.
      HBO isn't in the business of keeping bad shows that don't pull ratings on their network.
      I've had a few HBO shows that I loved get cancelled prematurely.
      HBO rarely misses.

    • @johntallanger4036
      @johntallanger4036 2 роки тому

      @@DPMusicStudio lol

  • @krememan4621
    @krememan4621 3 роки тому +258

    Jason was also the star of Duckman. That show is incredible

    • @meumnomen
      @meumnomen 3 роки тому +19

      Agreed. That duck was such a funny, arrogant scumbag.

    • @AyeThatsHandsomePete
      @AyeThatsHandsomePete 3 роки тому +8

      Great show!

    • @zacharycollett5456
      @zacharycollett5456 3 роки тому

      Unfortunately still a flop. I love that show

    • @krememan4621
      @krememan4621 3 роки тому +22

      @@zacharycollett5456 what makes you say it was a flop? 70 episodes and a fan base that loves it.

    • @lostinthemasses
      @lostinthemasses 3 роки тому +9

      It blows my mind it isn't streaming anywhere. They did reruns on Comedy Central for a while like 20 years ago.

  • @jonathanstern5537
    @jonathanstern5537 3 роки тому +53

    Jason Alexander is so talented. He can sing, he can dance, he can do magic, he can write, he can act, he's a quintuple threat.

  • @keybyss98
    @keybyss98 3 роки тому +72

    I honestly died at the Seinfeld-esque music at the beginning. 😂

    • @nslouka90
      @nslouka90 3 роки тому +6

      That sad bass line had be cracking up

  • @cowgrll
    @cowgrll 3 роки тому +47

    I think there are some aspects of the Bob Patterson premise that could still work today, especially with the increased prevalence of self-help/financial gurus and MLM reps selling the dream. There’s so many opportunities for parody and satire. I’m glad he went on to do the Donny Clay character.

    • @IsAName1
      @IsAName1 2 роки тому +1

      Yes i would love this now

  • @Aidenkong523
    @Aidenkong523 3 роки тому +341

    It's sad when Bob Patterson has more episodes than Police Squad!

    • @Shorty_Lickens
      @Shorty_Lickens 3 роки тому +58

      Friends has more episodes than Seinfeld.
      Friends is dog shit.

    • @madmaxandrade
      @madmaxandrade 3 роки тому +48

      ...though TBF, Police Squad spawned a movie trilogy.

    • @Aidenkong523
      @Aidenkong523 3 роки тому +8

      @@madmaxandrade fair.

    • @Jacksabbath44
      @Jacksabbath44 3 роки тому +5

      and both Bob Patterson and The Michael Richards Show could gone great if they mirror that same formula, the original concepts work better as movie series!

  • @TheTenCentStory
    @TheTenCentStory 3 роки тому +378

    George Can't stand ya is the best TV character of all time.

    • @themonkeyhand
      @themonkeyhand 3 роки тому +3

      Was... then the true Costanza emerged in Larry David on Curb Your Enthusiasm.

    • @TheTenCentStory
      @TheTenCentStory 3 роки тому +1

      @@themonkeyhand That show doesn't count because it was on cable.

    • @themonkeyhand
      @themonkeyhand 3 роки тому +1

      @@TheTenCentStory Well, I'll take that as we're both right then!

    • @TheTenCentStory
      @TheTenCentStory 3 роки тому +3

      @@themonkeyhand Cable shows just have more freedom. You wouldn't compare a Netflix mini-series to a sitcom on a standard TV or an HBO show. They have different standards.

    • @homeownerwithacombover
      @homeownerwithacombover 3 роки тому +2

      I believe it's pronounced Cartwright lol.

  • @apieceofbitsandpieces342
    @apieceofbitsandpieces342 3 роки тому +158

    I’d like to think this series was responsible for the joke about Castanza’ book in Curb Your Enthusiasm.

    • @jjryan1352
      @jjryan1352 3 роки тому +10

      They also did the private bathroom bit in Curb

    • @wvu05
      @wvu05 3 роки тому +5

      @@jjryan1352 That was a takeoff from George quitting because his boss wouldn't let him use his private bathroom.

  • @samlibutti
    @samlibutti 3 роки тому +99

    This show had way more potential than most of the other Post Seinfeld shows for the cast. Insane to me that they didn’t give it more of a shot considering the fact that Seinfeld itself took a couple seasons to become successful. You’d think they’d learn from that model.

    • @rumpledtrenchcoatacolumbop8422
      @rumpledtrenchcoatacolumbop8422 3 роки тому +14

      Very true. The first 2-3 episodes of Seinfeld and Cheers are virtually unwatchable. Imagine if they were cut off after just 5 episodes?

    • @parlinmains
      @parlinmains 3 роки тому +2

      No network exec willing to take a chance.

    • @theyellowlightsaber3193
      @theyellowlightsaber3193 2 роки тому +9

      TV execs never learn cos TV execs wouldnt have commisioned Seinfeld in the first place if theyd been paying full attention to it, Seinfeld the show really slipped under the radar amidst a sea of family sitcoms. And you find that with just about anything fresh or unique TV executives are the last ones to realise what they have, the same went for Monty Pythons Flying Circus, the BBC took no notice of it til it started getting complaints.

    • @drygnfyre
      @drygnfyre Рік тому +2

      "The Office" is a rare example of where they did a scenario kind of what you're describing. The first season had low ratings and wasn't well received critically, and they were going to cancel it. The only reason they gave it a second season was "The 40-Year-Old Virgin" was coming out and they thought that Steve Carrell's new boost in popularity might help the show. (It was also retooled a fair bit with the writing). The gamble paid off big time.

  • @Jose-se9pu
    @Jose-se9pu 3 роки тому +171

    The reason why Julia managed to break the "curse" is because she didnt play Elaine in her other projects...Michael played Kramer, Jason played George, and of course their shows sucked without Larry David writting the scripts, especially in the latter case, because Larry IS George.
    The networks probably pushed for this because of how popular Seinfeld was, but the actors should have stayed their ground...like Julia did.

    • @weirdisspeltweird
      @weirdisspeltweird 3 роки тому +10

      Veep is so good

    • @bjones8470
      @bjones8470 3 роки тому +1

      Sweet profile pic

    • @davidl570
      @davidl570 3 роки тому +8

      Agree about Julia, but she DID have one forgotten failure--Watching Ellie. Asked him to cover that one in my above comment, so we'll see what happens!

    • @NeedyForMusic
      @NeedyForMusic 3 роки тому +2

      Julia just got lucky tbh.

    • @DeadSexyAdamCheney
      @DeadSexyAdamCheney 3 роки тому +13

      She also has her billionaire dad backing her so she could be choosy with her jobs as Jason and Michael have to continue to work to make a living.

  • @ExplorerDS6789
    @ExplorerDS6789 3 роки тому +120

    Much like the Michael Richards Show, I think the networks were making Jason portray his character exactly like his Seinfeld counterpart. People were still reeling over the ending of that show and they wanted to retain the magic. They figured people wouldn't have watched these shows if they didn't feature Kramer and George carbon copies.

    • @chrishandsome4267
      @chrishandsome4267 3 роки тому +1

      Well said

    • @fstrgray82
      @fstrgray82 3 роки тому +4

      A few years after that he did a show called “Listen Up”, and I thought the same thing. He’s still playing George.

    • @Adamdidit
      @Adamdidit 3 роки тому

      @@fstrgray82 actually he was playing Tony Kornheiser in that one

    • @Echidneys
      @Echidneys 3 роки тому +3

      He said in the video that Jason himself admittedly brought a lot of George's character to the show, so no, the networks weren't exactly forcing it to be another George Costanza

    • @ExplorerDS6789
      @ExplorerDS6789 3 роки тому

      @@Echidneys Apparently Jason wasn't quite ready to let go of George. Maybe what he should have done instead was ask Jerry if he could use the character in his own spin-off, but maybe he did and Jerry said no.

  • @halfabeet
    @halfabeet 3 роки тому +85

    Alexander was always a stage guy, he didn't even want to audition for george as it was television - he went back to being a successful stage actor after the show and his two aborted television shows

  • @Kerorofan1990
    @Kerorofan1990 3 роки тому +21

    I somehow still remember that episode where he laid on a bed of spikes. Amazing the random stuff you remember even though you only saw it once 20 years ago.

  • @andrewb4999
    @andrewb4999 3 роки тому +10

    Jason’s work on Duckman will always be my second favorite thing he’s done since Seinfeld.

  • @BurtSampson
    @BurtSampson 3 роки тому +114

    The Merv Griffin Show episode is my all time favorite Seinfeld episode.

    • @DebitAdams
      @DebitAdams 3 роки тому +4

      Classic

    • @markportuondo2483
      @markportuondo2483 3 роки тому +6

      "What is this?" "We're trying out a new formula, Scandals and Animals!"

    • @joannablack
      @joannablack 3 роки тому +2

      I watched it a couple nights ago because my partner didn't remember it and we both were in stitches! I love that seinfeld holds up

  • @BigEOT3
    @BigEOT3 3 роки тому +123

    Julia Louis-Dreyfus is probably one of the better Seinfeld Curse survivors due to the success of New Adventures of Old Christine and Veep. Watching Ellie notwithstanding.

    • @johansvensson833
      @johansvensson833 3 роки тому +16

      and now also part of the MCU

    • @gator9339
      @gator9339 3 роки тому +2

      @@johansvensson833 she's in the MCU?

    • @jjryan1352
      @jjryan1352 3 роки тому +9

      Veep is fantastic. Not only because of the speed of the gags but for how accurately it portrays how politics actually happens behind the scenes.

    • @zarrg5611
      @zarrg5611 3 роки тому +2

      @@jjryan1352 The Thick of It is much better though, Veep is a bit disappointing after it.

    • @oldmanlogan9616
      @oldmanlogan9616 3 роки тому +2

      New Adventures of Old Christine was great.

  • @jtmichaelson
    @jtmichaelson 3 роки тому +297

    It's interesting that you inserted a reference to Curb Your Enthusiasm. You pretty much answered the question of why Bob Patterson couldn't work. Granted, there is only one George Costanza, but there is only one Larry. Larry took George back and re-wrote him for Curb. That was smart because George needed to be exposed for what he really was; Larry David. Jason did an amazing job, but Larry is just a natural at it. He took out some of the extreme "neurotic-ness" of George and channeled it with Larry.
    Plus, by the time Bob Patterson came out, Larry was already a massive ratings hit, so there was most likely no room for two Larrys/Georges.

    • @davidgalinat4257
      @davidgalinat4257 3 роки тому +87

      A George divided against itself cannot stand!

    • @bjones8470
      @bjones8470 3 роки тому +18

      @@davidgalinat4257 Georges colliding

    • @steveomac385
      @steveomac385 2 роки тому +6

      I loved that about the reunion. Cheryl starts liking Jason Alexander, and Larry is just like that's not Jason thats George, that's me lol.

    • @reshmiya
      @reshmiya 2 роки тому +7

      So what you're saying is "Sorry, we've already got a George" ?

    • @ericad8616
      @ericad8616 2 роки тому +3

      When Joe said that the final episode that aired was just pure George and then he showed the scene where Bob Patterson was complaining about other people using his restroom, I thought to myself that he actually reminded me more of Larry David there.

  • @gabe_s_videos
    @gabe_s_videos 3 роки тому +13

    I went to theater camp and did a few shows with Jason Alexander's son, who's name is also, coincidentally, Gabriel and is a phenomenal actor in his own right.

  • @Awesome4Prez
    @Awesome4Prez 3 роки тому +7

    I remember this show, I actually liked it. I found it funny and then, it just disappeared like it never happened....never knew why. Good to see someone talking about this hidden gem.

  • @nottiredofwinning3736
    @nottiredofwinning3736 3 роки тому +32

    Yes! Been looking forward to more of these Seinfeld forgotten failures!

  • @johnhein2539
    @johnhein2539 3 роки тому +16

    I feel like the world has grown into the premise of this kind of show. Considering fake gurus are absolutely everywhere these days, especially online.

  • @SkyeGuy
    @SkyeGuy 3 роки тому +14

    Most recently, Jason was in an Adult Swim pilot called The Mark Lembeck Technique (which has similar self-help guru infomercial energy while also infusing surreal psychological darkness) that I absolutely ADORED. I think it's impossible for me not to enjoy Jason, no matter what he's in. He's won a Tony, a Grammy, VERY NEARLY had a whole bunch of Emmys (especially considering his success as, let's face it, the heart and soul of Seinfeld [which makes no sense but is true])... let's get him a really meaty role to win an Oscar for, consarn'it!

    • @bjones8470
      @bjones8470 3 роки тому +1

      He has a recurring role in Young Sheldon as a drama teacher/real estate agent that’s really funny

    • @DPMusicStudio
      @DPMusicStudio 2 роки тому +1

      LOL. I love what you said... "Make no sense but it is true."... I get that! Seinfeld HAS no soul... "No hugs no learning."

  • @uppercaset12345
    @uppercaset12345 3 роки тому +3

    I always remember this show was set to premier on Tuesday September 11th 2001. No one was watching sitcoms that night.

  • @LaurenceQuint
    @LaurenceQuint 3 роки тому +20

    Jerry really didn't try or care about finding another sitcom. He never considered himself an actor anyway. He just went back to stand-up, as he wanted to do.

    • @gordonlekfors2708
      @gordonlekfors2708 7 місяців тому

      he just went back to bunk tier garbo standup, like he always wanted.

  • @DCMarvelMultiverse
    @DCMarvelMultiverse 3 роки тому +82

    They tried to create a new Frasier and got warmed-over George leftovers.

    • @kurtwagner350
      @kurtwagner350 3 роки тому +9

      Lovely observation, I was getting mild Frasier vibes too

    • @davidperez5089
      @davidperez5089 3 роки тому

      Haha i don't think George ever had any leftovers!! Munch a bunch portly guy.

    • @davidl570
      @davidl570 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, I'd say one of the many reasons for this show's failure was that it somewhat seemed like a Frasier ripoff.

    • @tearfulsmiles9901
      @tearfulsmiles9901 3 роки тому

      Fraiser was by far the most annoying character on Cheers. The only good part of his spin-off was his dad's dog.

    • @kurtwagner350
      @kurtwagner350 3 роки тому

      @@tearfulsmiles9901 tell us how you really feel 😂

  • @sympathy4mario
    @sympathy4mario 3 роки тому +69

    Bee Movie should have had a Jason Alexander cameo

  • @StevenSenile
    @StevenSenile 6 місяців тому +1

    After researching more about Jason Alexander, I became hopeful that it is never too late to start something new in life. He is mad talented

  • @thenickster015
    @thenickster015 3 роки тому +3

    Whenever I see Jason Alexander in anything post-Seinfeld, I always get this goofy grin, I love seeing him in anything!

  • @TheLeevoy
    @TheLeevoy 2 роки тому +4

    You are such a true and pure historian of pop culture. The things you are curating are wonderful glimpses into the past that have been forgotten with time but I hope as your channel grows and grows they won't be forgotten. And that's something to respect and admire.

  • @sugreev2001
    @sugreev2001 3 роки тому +8

    I was waiting for this. Jason’s best work post-Seinfeld was one of the most underrated comedies of the 2000’s - Shallow Hal.

  • @blankadams3120
    @blankadams3120 3 роки тому +29

    The Seinfeld curse might also have to do with viewers not wanting more Seinfeld without the entire cast, or, it might have been Seinfeld fatigue... could be either of those.

  • @jdraven0890
    @jdraven0890 3 роки тому +5

    Those interviews with Jason Alexander for the archive of American television are fantastic (as was this video)

  • @NoUploadJustComment
    @NoUploadJustComment 3 роки тому +9

    He is a massive talent (not just in comedy, but in drama and even in musicals). ABC should have given him a proper shot to get it off the ground, but I do think the notes you gave here are also really smart (as well as the ones on the MR show episode).

  • @MatthewCobalt
    @MatthewCobalt 3 роки тому +14

    This show felt like it could have had a chance, but still had the shadow of Seinfeld looming over it

  • @noeditbookreviews
    @noeditbookreviews 2 роки тому +2

    I remember in the 90s Mad magazine did an article about various Seinfeld spinoffs. This reminds me of that.

  • @TheBigMclargehuge
    @TheBigMclargehuge 3 роки тому +32

    Almost cult-classic idea: Cheech and Chong's non-stoner movie called The Corsican Brothers. A silly and smart comedy that demonstrates a range of abilities from Cheech Marin and Tommy chong.

    • @TheAlexSchmidt
      @TheAlexSchmidt 3 роки тому +4

      Maybe in comparison to Gene Wilder's Start the Revolution Without Me which is also a take on The Corsican Brothers?

  • @psychonaut1502
    @psychonaut1502 3 роки тому +115

    You should do a show on SNL failures. There's tons of them. Some are good, like The Critic, and some are very bad, like It's Pat.

    • @Echidneys
      @Echidneys 3 роки тому +2

      Pat skits were pretty funny imo

    • @djpegao
      @djpegao 3 роки тому +11

      @@Echidneys exactly, skits. A full movie? Nope

    • @J.S.3259
      @J.S.3259 3 роки тому +11

      Hot take: The Critic was better than most of The Simpsons. I adore, ADORE that show

    • @J.S.3259
      @J.S.3259 3 роки тому +7

      @PestoMayo The Critic hit the ground running, as The Simpsons was also at its peak at that time. I know people hate Al Jean, but it is a marvelous show. A rare example of a program that got even better after introducing a permanent new character/live interest during its second season
      “We have a saying back home in Tennessee. Be a mensch, not a schmendrick.”

    • @bjones8470
      @bjones8470 3 роки тому

      @@J.S.3259 Al Jean?

  • @CrownRock1
    @CrownRock1 Рік тому +3

    I remember the marketing for this show. They rarely said that it was a sitcom, and almost never mentioned Jason Alexander's name. They presented it as a self-help show by guru Bob Patterson There were a lot of people on the internet forums at the time who were confused by this technique, and kept commenting that this Bob Patterson guy looks a lot like George from Seinfeld.

    • @richs4878
      @richs4878 11 місяців тому

      Yeah I think they did that on purpose thinking it would be some kind of viral “secret” that would spread among the subset who (hee hee hee) get it. Backfired horribly.

  • @MrFlame133
    @MrFlame133 3 роки тому +10

    I think Alexander said it perfectly when he said he wished he could go back and redo some things but keep the concepts because he’s knows they would work. I think if they did something more akin to the righteous gemstones it would of been an awesome show.

  • @TimAllen624
    @TimAllen624 3 роки тому +7

    That theme song is incredible.

  • @matthewconnors1011
    @matthewconnors1011 3 роки тому +4

    Some helpful info to add to these videos about failed shows is what time of year they debuted: fall, mid-season or summer; night of the week/lead-in/time slot competition; the ratings themselves.

  • @johnenigma8506
    @johnenigma8506 3 роки тому +38

    At least Jason Alexander still has Duckman to his name.

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 3 роки тому +11

    I figured the one actor to break the Seinfeld curse would be the actor who played Jay Peterman. He starred on dance with with the Stars, hosted Family Feud, and is currently hosting the Thanksgiving day dog show on NBC.

    • @ExplorerDS6789
      @ExplorerDS6789 3 роки тому +4

      John O'Hurley?

    • @wstine79
      @wstine79 3 роки тому +3

      @@ExplorerDS6789 yes

    • @ExplorerDS6789
      @ExplorerDS6789 3 роки тому +4

      @@wstine79 Not to mention, Joe said "four actors" at the beginning, surely he doesn't mean Jerry too? Jerry pretty much retired after Seinfeld ended, and he only emerged to make Bee Movie.

    • @bobbyhillthuglife
      @bobbyhillthuglife 3 роки тому +9

      Bryan Cranston aka Tim Whatley has done pretty well

    • @andywinslow9638
      @andywinslow9638 3 роки тому +3

      He's also hosted the revival of To Tell The Truth . Also Bob Odenkirk played Elaine's boyfriend and is doing pretty well.

  • @jonathanturbide2232
    @jonathanturbide2232 3 роки тому +4

    Wow, never heard of this show before! I knew Jason did that Listen Up sitcom post Seinfeld, but I had no idea he did that one too! Thanks for sharing! 👍

  • @FreihEitner
    @FreihEitner 2 роки тому +2

    Jason Alexander was great as the voice of Catbert in the 2-season Dilbert cartoon in the late 1990s.

  • @thewkovacs316
    @thewkovacs316 3 роки тому +4

    dont knotts and bob newhart are two of the few actors who have been successful at carrying their characters through multiple shows

  • @robertholston4708
    @robertholston4708 3 роки тому +4

    I remember seeing a billboard for this show as a kid.

  • @deadpoolguy283
    @deadpoolguy283 3 роки тому +3

    Finally! I was waiting for your video on Bob Patterson.

  • @unkieclaw6488
    @unkieclaw6488 3 роки тому +2

    I remember watching and liking Bob Patterson....20 years ago. wow i feel old as balls.

  • @teddyfurstman1997
    @teddyfurstman1997 3 роки тому +47

    The Seinfeld Curse is tragic for the former actors on this show. Also, Poor Jason Alexsander.

    • @salamisumo2
      @salamisumo2 3 роки тому +18

      Julia broke the curse with Veep

    • @adammumby8883
      @adammumby8883 3 роки тому +20

      She had another long running show before veep and after Seinfeld... New Christine

    • @jonathanpasch6604
      @jonathanpasch6604 3 роки тому +3

      I highly doubt he's poor. Seinfeld re-runs started before the show even ended and never stopped.

    • @facethestrange15yearsago81
      @facethestrange15yearsago81 3 роки тому +4

      He was in Everybody Hates Chris as well

    • @Jose-se9pu
      @Jose-se9pu 3 роки тому +14

      @@salamisumo2 The thing with Julia is that she did something the others didnt; she didnt play Elaine.
      Which was always the issue, Jason was still playing George, and Michael was still playing Kramer.

  • @MrKeys57
    @MrKeys57 10 місяців тому +1

    Loved the Bob Patterson show! Many of us here in Sweden did!

  • @globetrekker86
    @globetrekker86 3 роки тому +5

    Bob Patterson’s snafu at the baseball game reminds of Larry on CYE, tripping Shaq a few hours short of proclaiming that he can’t stand the Lakers

  • @ClunFunDun
    @ClunFunDun 3 роки тому +1

    Very well done. Your point about the sitcom format itself, rather than the specifics of the show, was spot on.

    • @jjryan1352
      @jjryan1352 3 роки тому +1

      Excellent idea to use a toupee.

  • @thema1998
    @thema1998 3 роки тому +7

    I had *never* heard of "Bob Patterson" until now! 🤓

    • @bjones8470
      @bjones8470 3 роки тому

      Neither had I. I wasn’t watching a lot of tv back then.

  • @averyeml
    @averyeml 3 роки тому +1

    This looks great, honestly. I also like the fact that he owns up and takes pride in this show, and ended up redoing it with Donny Clay. Jason Alexander has more talent and chops than are immediately obvious. When I grew up everyone always just described him as “that one guy from Seinfeld” and I never realized how much of an injustice they were doing him until I got older.

  • @mariogamefreak1
    @mariogamefreak1 3 роки тому +8

    If he tried to do this again I have a feeling it would be a hit.

    • @IsmailofeRegime
      @IsmailofeRegime 3 роки тому +2

      Not to mention that even if he retread his George Contanza persona, nowadays nostalgia for Seinfeld would play in favor of that.

    • @jjryan1352
      @jjryan1352 3 роки тому

      Bob the UA-camr

  • @no.9516
    @no.9516 6 місяців тому

    Jason Alexander never got the attention he deserved. He has never had a single miss with a single character. Maybe the project didnt succeed , but he literally never misses.

  • @flapjack6495
    @flapjack6495 3 роки тому +4

    The new adventures of old christine is so underrated I really hope he covers it

    • @bjones8470
      @bjones8470 3 роки тому

      I’m rewatching it now along with Veep on HBO. Both are great

  • @MrKaywyn
    @MrKaywyn 3 місяці тому

    Jason Alexander is an exceptionally talented actor who deserves great success.

  • @gabrielborges7909
    @gabrielborges7909 2 роки тому +5

    What if they made a show about someone crashing into their car, but he don't have insurance or money to pay for the repairs, so he ends up being their butler for a month?

    • @monfronoriginal
      @monfronoriginal 6 місяців тому

      I like it! And if it flops we can pitch it to Japan!

  • @RobinHerzig
    @RobinHerzig 2 роки тому +1

    Jason Alexander had a memorable cameo character arc in Mrs Maisel as an old lefty from Midge's dad's past as a playwright during McCarthyism - it was really good

  • @Gappasaurus
    @Gappasaurus 3 роки тому +5

    2:22 It’s Babu Bhatt! 😄
    10:42 and Oscar, pre-Office 😳
    Guess this show had good guest cameos if nothing else 😅

    • @jjryan1352
      @jjryan1352 3 роки тому +1

      "What's a Babu Bhatt?" 🤣

    • @bjones8470
      @bjones8470 3 роки тому +1

      @@jjryan1352 he was a recurring character on Seinfeld he owned a restaurant and was Jerry’s neighbor

    • @jjryan1352
      @jjryan1352 3 роки тому

      @@bjones8470 whooooooooosh

  • @RileyDia
    @RileyDia 3 роки тому +1

    You're so right to mention The Bernie Mac Show, that's often forgotten when it comes to that kind of revolutionary single-camera sitcom era. Great video as always!

    • @bjones8470
      @bjones8470 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah that was a great one

  • @Jared_Wignall
    @Jared_Wignall 3 роки тому +16

    It’s a shame that Jason Alexander and Michael Richards shows didn’t do well. Both are talented, but unfortunately too many people just wanted them to essentially play the same Seinfeld characters in different shows with different names. At least Julia Louis-Dreyfus has had better success over the years by being able to branch out and play characters that aren’t exactly like Elaine, which is good. It’s just unfortunate that when people play a character for so long, that many people want them to play that character in essentially everything else they do, when actors generally want to stretch and want to leave certain characters behind to avoid being typecast.

    • @parlinmains
      @parlinmains 3 роки тому

      Not even when they play them for so long. Look at Mark Hamill.

    • @tbird81
      @tbird81 2 роки тому

      Michael Richards isn't talented.

    • @ironmaster6496
      @ironmaster6496 2 роки тому

      @@parlinmains To be Fair at this point he Is More well known as the joker too, and he Is even better in that role

  • @AndrewWoodford
    @AndrewWoodford 2 роки тому +2

    I’d love to watch this show after seeing these clips. This looks like the best of the failed shows.

  • @Tim_the_Enchanter
    @Tim_the_Enchanter 3 роки тому +8

    On a positive note, apparently Robert Klein was able to stop his leg.

    • @bjones8470
      @bjones8470 3 роки тому

      Ha!! Now that’s old school

  • @happygolucky7241
    @happygolucky7241 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the video! I remember seeing so much ads for this show before I got to high school and try to watch it. Just didn't work like Seinfeld & Duckman.

  • @PinheadLarryVEVO
    @PinheadLarryVEVO 3 роки тому +9

    This one seems better than the Michael Richards show, I’d actually check it out

    • @brettfawcett2306
      @brettfawcett2306 3 роки тому +2

      I’ve seen a few episodes of both and you are absolutely right. Bob Patterson has its charm; after the pilot, The Michael Richards show is nearly unwatchable.

    • @bjones8470
      @bjones8470 3 роки тому +3

      Kramer was a fun over the top character but we didn’t need any more of him and that’s Richard’s main schtick, that really physical comedy. I really liked him on Fridays and was delighted when I saw him on Seinfeld but was a little disappointed that the character was so small. Once the show started taking off and he had more freedom to play Kramer the way he wanted it was great.

  • @ARealPersonNotABot
    @ARealPersonNotABot 3 роки тому +1

    Huge Seinfeld fan here. I actually watched the Michael Richards show when it aired. I have never heard of Bob Patterson until a few minutes ago.

  • @MrSoopSA
    @MrSoopSA 3 роки тому +16

    Damn, only five episodes went on? That’s brutal. I suppose a fair amount of why it doesn’t quite work is that the pitiable Jason Alexander schtick works only in doses and can’t carry a whole show. The footage you showed looks like more of the same from Seinfeld, but only more of the same.

  • @eman4568
    @eman4568 2 роки тому

    Jason Greenspan's best role post Seinfeld was as the fire alarm in the straight-to-VHS hit video "Be Cool About Fire Safety".

  • @yszman6478
    @yszman6478 3 роки тому +13

    I have always thought in a weird ways the Seinfeld characters especially the male characters mirrored Mickey and friends. Jerry = Mickey, Kramer = Goofy, and George = Donald. And of those characters who had the best solo cartoons, who are you most interested in spending time with, Donald Duck. Look at the comic book sale. What was I talking about again? Yeah George was the best character.

    • @jjryan1352
      @jjryan1352 3 роки тому

      Cool comparison. That's gold yszman. Gold!

    • @yszman6478
      @yszman6478 3 роки тому +1

      @@jjryan1352 Well if I can go further into my Donald / George comparison, which I just thought of now. (and yes I am going more into comic book Donald than cartoon Donald) But an argument one can make, that Frank was George's Uncle Scrooge. And to a lesser extent and I admit this a big stretch, that Loyd Brawn is George's Gladstone.

    • @parlinmains
      @parlinmains 3 роки тому

      I feel like that's a common trope. The Comic Trio.

  • @mclovinproteinshake9370
    @mclovinproteinshake9370 3 роки тому +2

    Been waiting for this since the Michael Richard's Show one. You gotta keep doing these!

  • @VisualTedium
    @VisualTedium 3 роки тому +5

    TV after Seinfeld was just Christopher Guest movies shortened for TV

    • @bjones8470
      @bjones8470 3 роки тому

      Exactly they really ran with that format

  • @mattm7798
    @mattm7798 6 місяців тому +1

    Wow, 5 episodes(so 5 weeks). Look at all the classic shows throughout history, including Seinfeld itself, which had a rocky 1st season but weren't cancelled. 5 weeks is a crazy short amount of time to give a new show to find an audience!
    Makes you wonder how many amazing tv shows we've lost because network execs didn't get instant ratings.

  • @cinnamongeek
    @cinnamongeek 3 роки тому +3

    Absolutely fantastic video! This will most likely get lost in the sea of comments, but I created the Bob Patterson lost media wiki page last year after seeing that the show was mostly lost, and I'm so happy that this show is starting to be talked about.
    I doubt my wiki page had much influence on this video, but I do know that "Bathroom Bob" was uploaded by a wiki contributor! Where did you find that pic for the thumbnail though? I've literally looked through the 12th page of google for info from this show but NEVER seen that pic before, I'm impressed haha

    • @HatsOffEntertainment
      @HatsOffEntertainment  3 роки тому +2

      I used your great Wiki page for research! Particularly the link to the archived Bob Patterson website. Thanks so much for archiving that stuff. I can email you the Bob Patterson image if you like. I found it on a Google deep dive.

    • @cinnamongeek
      @cinnamongeek 3 роки тому

      @@HatsOffEntertainment Oh my god that's so cool! And you're very welcome! I found that website from that promo you included at the beginning of the vid. Totally email it to me, I'd love it! Where should I give my email?

    • @bjones8470
      @bjones8470 3 роки тому

      @@cinnamongeek have you done others?

    • @cinnamongeek
      @cinnamongeek 3 роки тому

      @@bjones8470 done other what? done other articles? Sorry I’m not sure what you’re asking me

    • @cinnamongeek
      @cinnamongeek 3 роки тому

      @@HatsOffEntertainment Can you still send me that image? I’ll give you my email

  • @CineBrosSupreme
    @CineBrosSupreme 3 роки тому +1

    I remember when this show was announced. I was just starting grade 11, and my friends and I were all fans of Seinfeld, so we were all pretty excited for Bob Patterson. However, for some reason I could never catch it, and before I knew it, it had vanished, never to be heard of again (until now, lol).
    Another show that aired around this time but came to an end quickly was Inside Schwartz, starring Breckin Myer, which aired on NBC.
    I remember catching the first 2 episodes and thought the show was awesome, but as the weeks went on and the show progressed, it all fell flat very quickly.
    That would make for a great episode of "Forgotten Failures" Joe, hint hint, wink wink, lol!
    Great stuff as always, keep up the good work! -Jex

  • @Maniac536
    @Maniac536 3 роки тому +5

    And now Elaine is the Contessa.... I think at least she’s okay

  • @coreyworthingtonii9230
    @coreyworthingtonii9230 6 місяців тому

    Curb doing so well in hindsight shows me that Larry was really brilliant and a true ideas man.

  • @jamesburke2759
    @jamesburke2759 3 роки тому +13

    Dunstan Checks in is a brilliant example of Jason being a fantastic out of character actor.

    • @Jolis_Parsec
      @Jolis_Parsec 3 роки тому +2

      Indeed. I still watch that movie whenever it comes on television even as an adult since it has a certain kind of charm that endeared it to me in spite of all the mixed reviews it garnered from critics upon its release.

    • @FutaYuuta
      @FutaYuuta 3 роки тому +1

      Dunston Check In is underrated as hell.

    • @jamesburke2759
      @jamesburke2759 3 роки тому

      I think it was actually the hair piece. When he put it on he was no longer George

    • @Jolis_Parsec
      @Jolis_Parsec 3 роки тому

      @@jamesburke2759 Wait. He had hair in that movie? Pretty sure I remember him looking just like he did in Seinfeld, though I did look it up and sure enough, Jason’s sporting a pretty obvious toupee in that film. Either I’m misremembering the film or it’s yet another Mandela Effect, just sayin’. 👽🛸

    • @davidl570
      @davidl570 3 роки тому

      James Burke Haven't seen it--I know it's a comedy, but does he play a serious role?

  • @huskobonsarune
    @huskobonsarune 3 роки тому +2

    I actually liked the show when it came on during its original Airing. I later down the line looked back at some UA-cam re-uploads, and changed my view.