I Shoved The HOTTEST CPU into a SMALL 10L Case... what could go wrong? Alder Lake 12900k
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- #Keybored I Shoved The HOTTEST CPU into a SMALL 10L Case... what could go wrong? Alder Lake 12900k
So, needing to upgrade my workstation, I decided to go with the newest Intel Alder Lake CORE i9 12900K and an RTX3080 and shoved it all into a small 10L SFF case... What could go wrong?
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keyboards and ITX builds are my two main hobbies, so ty for catering to us nerds ✌️
I hope I didn't disappoint at all!
@@Keybored not at all, the build looks sick! but as other people mentioned, you could've picked up a diff aio since corsair ones are kinda pricy for what they are. atleast they're reliable and they look clean.
You built a really nice system, it was pretty good selection of parts. Some things to note:
You should look into VRAM overheating for 30-series GPU. The thermal pads on many units are less than ideal, resulting in overheating, sometimes even damaged VRAM chips. I solved this problem, and also improved the GPU thermals, by taking the GPU apart, and applying high thermal conductivity thermal pads from Thermalright, and some Thermalgrizzly paste. The result was a drop of around 10-15C during max synthetic load on the VRAM, and about 5-10C drop on the GPU die.
Your Thermalgrizzly paste isn't the regular Kryonaut, which is grey coloured, but the pink coloured Kryonaut Extreme. It was designed for extreme overclocking, and can function under liquid nitrogen! That's why the paste is much thicker than the regular thermal pastes normal users get. The paste is extremely expensive but also high performing, so you've done a good job there.
I think you could probably improve the CPU thermals by looking into how to undervolt it. Most systems draw way too much power into the CPU, to ensure stability no matter what situation the end user subjects it to, but most CPUs, especially the ones binned for high end, can easily run with far less voltage than stock settings. By testing and seeing how low you can push the voltage down and still maintain system stability, you can likely drop max temps by upwards of 5-10C, perhaps more. You can also make the fan profile a bit more aggressive as well. Another way to improve the thermals would be to get an AIO with a thicker radiator and more powerful fans, as Corsair's stuff is more about looks and less about performance.
For GPUs, this undervolting is also very useful, and you can achieve it using MSI Afterburner. On the 3080 and 3090, it is highly recommended for better boosting characteristics, longevity, and lower power use.
Make sure you've set the XMP profile to active in the system BIOS if you have not! Also, check if the monitor is running on the max potential refresh rate, just in case. I'm sure you've done it, but better to error on the side of caution and just say it.
It's a nice build, you'd make a wonderful general techtuber for sure! Feel free to talk about other stuff you get, like Audiophile gear, or mice, or even whole setups. I'm sure people will find it useful!
Thank you so much for this detailed recommendation! Really well laid out and very helpful! I'll have to try some of these things and see how I can improve this system further. Overall, it has been a rock solid system, but I think I can do some tweaks as you have recommended and make it even better! The original BIOS for the motherboard wouldn't take XMP profiles, but I heard the latest BIOS version allows for it to work ok! I'll have to go back and do it!
@@Keybored what is them max rad + fan height it can support?
without washers, if the fans are on the top
@@Keybored +if the front io and power buttom would have been transported under the front of the gpu, and if it would be 1-3mm wider, it could support a 280aio too :)
Great build! Although I have some suggestions to help the cpu temps and noise.
1) switch to noctua nf-a12 fans
2) undervolt your cpu (makes it run cooler with no performance impact, research it though because I’m not sure if it works well with intel 12 gen)
I definitely am planning to swap out the fans to the noctuas! Been just too lazy to tear it all apart again, but everytime the fans spool up to 100%... I'm thinking... need new fans lol
I have this case, mine has Ryzen 9 5900x and RTX 3080 64gb Ram
Hey Scott, great little build! Makes my NR200 look like a fridge lol. One suggestion I have is to swap your fans. Noctua AF-12s are the best but the Arctic P12s are a close second and much cheaper and what I personally use. Have you tried having your fans on the very top in pull config? It'll encourage cooler air than the push config I believe.
Thanks for the great advice! I'll definitely be looking into swapping fans... The corsair fans are so so... Also crazy loud. I want to do a pull config, but I ran into the issue of the radiator tube being bent too aggressively when the fan was on top so had to just stick it into push :( perhaps I can make a standoff to help it and redo it when I swap fans!
@@Keybored Really happy seeing your build, I'm about to build something similar. Everyone else is like "bad idea"... But it's not like people are going to be running at max capacity - cinebench equivalent - all the time with the i9 12900k...
@@Keybored I think having all fans set to exhaust is the way to go here. It is much better for the gpu to push the hot air out than pull cool air in for sandwich style cases like this one as the heat wants to rise upwards.
CPU temps will probably improve if you were pulling cool air through the radiator but surely at the expense of GPU temps as it recycles its hot air.
Nice vid, I really want to see more videos about your setup in general , this pc build was very refreshing actually, really liked it !
Thank you so much! Going into the new year, I'll think about how to expand the channel a bit!
wait wait wait i know i am late on that but he did build a mini itx pc and has no noctua fans o.o he must be a mad boy :O
Once you go ITX, you never go back. I built my ITX PC just over a year ago and I laugh at all my friends with their giant cases now compared to my 3080 equipped Ghost S1 (8.2L).
:) I'm still enjoying my build! It can get quite loud sometimes, but I think I need to upgrade the fans!
My 1st sff was my sliger sm560 and was easy to build minis the 12pin which I had to go custom as the sfx psu cables are generally for larger itx cases like the nr200 but too long for 11l sffpc still I'm looking to go i9 but not sure how to cool such a beast in these 11l cases without heat issues
yep. I really hate big desktops now. i also hate big itx case and build for some reason (360aio / 300mm gpu etc)....maybe cause its not small enough yet dense inside. itx is love, itx is life.
Clean pc build
Thanks! It was a fun build for sure... challenging at times but fun regardless
Great build! The only "issue" is that you went with a Corsair AIO, they're not bad but are a bit overpriced (especially compared to EK or Arctic offerings) and comes with a rat's nest of cables
It does come with a rats nest lol. I went with corsair because it was this and glacier that was confirmed to work with the specific motherboard I bought. And Dave2d used the lcd version with some success so I was relieved the block was able to handle the new 1700 die. But I agree, EK for sure is better! I used to build a lot with Swiftech before as well
@@Keybored Arctic Liquid Freezer II would work amazing in this case too, and the pump housing even has a tiny fan for VRM cooling. Corsair is more for RGB builds.
@ultradeadd will this cool the 12900k?
Keep it air-cooled nactua
I'm building a similar setup on Lian Li Q58 but i stayed with 12900 non-k to make sure power/thermals are managed but went with a 3080ftw3 12G version. Went with 280mm rad (yes it fits the q58). All these on a 850W psu if there's a chance i put my GPU to OC mode.
I've got a very similar build, except I went the gigabyte ddr4 b660i (has optical audio out) and I'm using the cooler Master NR200P.
I don't plan on overclocking it, instead I undervolted the 12900k. Under full sustained load in r23 after 60 minutes, I get 27352 pts, peak temp on one core of 94C, no throttling and it's sustainable and stable. Peak power consumption at 195W, and 1.188V.
To keep things under control, I've also capped the power limits to 200W, which it hasn't hit yet with an undervolt. The 12900k is very efficient and cool when gaming and under regular workloads.
Dayyuuuuuummmmm, this build is so clean. I got my pc before the price rises so I didn't pay that much. Anyways great video and clean build.
It was sooooo over priced... :( But my old station was starting to give a lot of errors after its 10 years of use... needed an upgrade!
Hey thanks for the video, nice system! I'm curious through, I'm looking for a sff case for rendering only, if you removed that GPU or just had a really low powered one, would I be able to achieve better CPU temps??? Renders obviously go on for 1hr plus so it's got to be well cooled. Also wondered about the 3950x plus low powered GPU. Thanks
Yes you should definitely upgrade your fans for Noctuas or you can also use some more budget friendly the Artic P12 pwm, also if you want there a chanel that i love to watch he does mostly mini itx builds name is Optimum Tech.
Started my journey on the keyboards rabbit hole with the keychron k8 and a leopold for gaming, and now im waiting for the kbd67 lite.
Great Video, keep the good work and content.
Ps: Phanteks T30 is actually the best in the market right now.
Yup! I love the content from Optimum Tech!
hows the system holding up!? i want this exact system but with 13 gen intel and 4090, scared of a meltdown lol. This is sweet though.
Keybored Tech Tips!
Haha. This content is different than my usual, but hey, it was fun so I'm happy overall :)
I think he built this cuz he was keybored
Haha, I got the joke lol
Maybe all of your viewers think that keybored is the right word 😂
How did your 240mm cool the 12900K?!
I have a TUF240MM front mounted with fans at 2000rpm and pump at max - and I still had to TDP limit it and undervolt it, cuz it keeps hittin 100C like instantly
Fortunately, I have not been having issues cooling the 12900k surprisingly. Only times I've seen it get crazy high was only during benchmark tests, and I hit very close to the 100c TJMAXX but avoided it by 2 degrees. For day to day, I usually top out around 70. Perhaps you should see if that 240mm aio has any block contact issues with the alder lakes? I know a lot of corsair do and I had to go with this one specifically because others have tried it with success
@@Keybored Thank you for your response! And such a quick one as well... Yeah the IHS/COOLER contact has came into my mind, but sadly as that TUF cooler was the only one available in Lithuania at that moment (for Lga1700) I had no choice :D
I think it uses the same plate/pump as it's the Asatek/Asatec(?) patent one?
I think your video made me 100% guaranteed I will have to invest into Corsairs 360mm AIO :D as if yours performed so good in a 10L case I HOPE a 360mm would perform at least the same in a mid tower :/
Tl;dr: Had nothing else to buy at the time, hopefully I wont burn down my i12 until I can get something else to cool it with :D
Double check the installation, see if it's properly sitting on top of the cpu or maybe try to apply the thermal paste evenly on the IHS like he did in the video.
I mean its like the Dan case by Lian Li pretty much same thing
two of my hobbies in one channel. this man doesnt miss.
Love the PC content. Basically covering my hobbies perfectly on ur channel.
Glad to hear that! It was a fun build!
Did you encounter any other issues with the Motherboard? Also those gpu temps are absolutely insane.
I did run into many many issues with the motherboard. The PCIE riser not being recognized, the memory XMP not working, weird stability issues. However, the latest bios update got rid of the stability issues. I had to set the memory profile manually and it worked. The GPU I had to connect into the board first, then change the PCIE setting to 3 manually before the riser worked lol. But all in all, it works now and has been rock solid throughout many benchmarking tests. The GPU temps are really crazy low... it's probably because the intake is literally right there by the side opening, so it's getting all the cool air it needs... issue is that it blows it into the radiator LOL
what are these speakers? look very cool
I thought that this was something like an oven-keyboard kinda thing :P
(jk much love haha)
Haha that would have been funny
Sick build! Been looking forward to this homie
Glad to hear that! Hope it doesn't disappoint!
Ngl I think I will be copying this build lol, except for with an i5 since it will only be used for gaming. Love the non-keyboard content as well, def wanna see more of these.
Just used your code to get one for myself! This is going to be a sick upgrade from my Node 202, though I had little choice since my TUF 3070 doesn't fit without special mods.
Hey there! Curious if you had issue with your PCIe 4.0 riser not working. Some say they had to scale back to 3.0. Did you have this issue?
Keyboard nerd assemble kickass ITX PC.
:) Thanks! It's been a champ so far!
im also about to stick a 12900k into an itx! glad to see that it's possible without it absolutely dying 🤣
cool build !!
I'd love to see any updates on this build man. I'm looking to do this in a Dan A4H2O when I can
What direction did you choose for the air flow? Throwing hot air from the top lid seems quite comfortable for the user comparing to actually heating the desk. On the other hand, pushing air from the top to inside makes AIOs life easier since the air there is actually colder than one going preheated by other components inside of the case.
quick question, hows the power consumtion? i feel like 750w is cutting it close with ur build
How noisy are the fans while you running the whole system?
Pretty noisy... I need to upgrade to noctuas
Keybored Tech Tips (KTT) kek. Nice build bro.
Thank you bro! It was fun and also different doing a computer build video Vs. keyboards :) Perhaps I can make a spinoff channel in 2022
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Hi Scott, great video! Unrelated, but I was wondering if you've heard about the Akko CS v3 switches namely the Starfish, Sponge, Jelly Black, blues, etc. Thought you might be interested in reviewing them since they claimed to be the improved versions of the previous ones :)) Cheers!
Thank you Jodi! I did receive the Starfish, Sponge, Jelly switches :) I like the Jelly switches more than the starfish/sponge! They actually feel pretty distinct and solid!
Also Asus does provide a mini ITX z690 board with ddr5 compatibility
It was too expensive :(
You are very good presenting any technology topic. However, you are one of the best at presenting and "inventing" custom keyboard moddings. I found you following the respect that the most recognized custom keyboard enthusiasts had to your mods and ideas. Although it was a really nice presentation and I enjoyed it, I was a bit disappointed that it wasn't keybo(ar/re)d related.
Have to keep things dynamic :) but perhaps I can make a spinoff channel!
This is a great video! I just got the same case and plan on putting a 12900k in mine as well. If you have the data, do you mind sharing any additional gaming benchmarks? Just curious how the system runs with some more demanding games. Thanks for giving me hope for this dream build.
I'll have to run some more games! But if it can benchmarking software with less issues, i think gaming sound be OK!
It's so cool. I wish I could build one 🥺
It's such a pain to get parts!
@@Keybored Yeah 😵
you should try the feker ik75! Its basically a plastic gmmk pro or keychron Q1
Yup! Others have suggested this board as well!
hey do you think you could cover the feker ik75? it's basically a clone of the gmmk pro but for insanely cheap. there's a couple issues with it, but i think it's worth it for its price and could be decent after modding.
I'll look into it! I believe I saw this keyboard pop up here and there, but didn't get a chance to look into it yet :(
Did you have any issues with your PCIE riser cable? I heard some folks having issues with it if you got gen 4 gear running through a gen 3 cable
I did actually. It wouldn't boot in default settings, so I had to plug the GPU into the board directly first, then change the PCIE settings in bios to 3, then it posted fine after that. I hear the performance difference between 3 and 4 is miniscule, and 3 runs more reliably, so I will be sticking with that for now!
98 degrees! Let me guess drawing power like there is no tomorrow, Nah is not for me, thanks for the video.
Only during the benchmarks. For normal use, I don't see it really breaking a sweat :)
You should have tested your GPU with fur mark, but the video was great.
Will check that out!
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If u undervolted cpu and gpu would that reduce the noise considerably?
I'm not quite sure... but I do wish to reduce the level of noise tho... when those fans go 100%... can get loud!
The algorithm never showed me this video on my feed until now! I'm subbed to you and have been and saw all your recent videos in between
:( probably because it thinks it's unrelated content
loved the build, i have been thinking about a small form factor build too. also would love to see an hhkb review from you
:) Thank you! It was a fun build! So far I made 1 hhkb build :) the drop Tokyo60!
Love this build! I was on medical leave for surgery and it got me building my first pc last year. I started modding keyboards after and I'm am on my 6th one. Anyways PC build was thrilling and I admit hunting for the pc parts was the one that I enjoyed the most. Such an achievement when you get then in-stock and the right price. I am now on my 2nd build similar to this one on the video. iqunix zx-1, i7 12700k, 3070ti tuf gpu, aorus z690i, coolermaster aio, noctua fans, sfx750 psu, gskill trident z 32gb 4000mhz and samsung 970 evo plus 2tb and 980 pro 1tb. I am waiting on a gen4 riser just because found one cheap I could not resist not getting. The install process is not what I'm worried but the bios update. This is something I have not done at all any tips how you updated your bios is much appreciated. Did you install everything first on the case or did you do bios update before putting everything together? thanks in advance! keep up the good work on creating good contents!
Yup! The bios update was done after I got the build up and running first! I recommend to actually do it without finishing the build. Get things plugged in and out of the case and make sure to get everything up and running before shoving it all in... I did it the opposite way and quickly realized that I needed to uninatall everything again for the riser to work, etc. Lol. But once you get it all up and running, it runs amazing!
You should run higher resolutions or harder to run games and uncap the frame rate to test the GPU thermals.
Yeah, I need to push this system more... It can do much more than what I throw at it haha
I really want to build a SFF PC soon, awesome video!
It was a challenging but fun build for sure!
Dont let the views discourage you from videos like this, this was sick!
Thank you for the encouragement Ghoul!
@@Keybored and thank you for the great content!😊 been watching your stuff for a hot minute and just realized I wasn’t subbed earlier today, so I gotchu now 💪
Can or run crysis
Haha, I'll have to check
great system! I built a similar pc using the NR200 and it turned out great. One question about the cooler though..I used the same one, but am a little worried with the compatibility with LGA1700. Since the cooler did not come with the correct standoffs, I had to use the LGA1200 ones in the box. The temperature seems fine, (65-ish for 12600k in cinebench using just the pre-applied paste on the pump) but Corsair actually sells the LGA1700 retrofit kit separately, which is the supposedly correct height for an alder lake CPU. Did you also use the LGA1200 standoffs for yours? Do you think the temps will increase if you got the correct standoffs?
Hmm I'm not too sure! I used these because Dave2d mentioned compatibility. So far so good! But I do wish to update it with a air cooler if there is a good enough one is the future! Would rather free up the side a bit of possible
@@Keybored oh, I referred to his build too haha. Actually, he used the lcd version, which supposedly comes with the 1700 standoffs, whereas the non-lcd version does not
Hey, great build overall. If you want the aio to run quieter and cooler, pick up two 120mm noctua fans like the A12x25, or cheaper models, and install those.
I definitely have this planned! I've been just lazy because of the disassembly again haha
Ha, that’s fair to say, I have had mainly SFF cases and they are a huge pain to disassemble!
This is pretty awesome dude! I'm gonna wait until there's no shortage anymore for silicon before buying any computer parts, but good on you for managing to get all this shit and build your PC during these times
Yeah it's a tough time... I would have tried to hold off also, but my old pc was literally a decade old and started to error lol
More impressed if you air cooled it.😂🤣😂
Haha, then it would have burned down my house for sure!
Nice change of pace from the usual keeb content! And congrats on a very sleek build! I too just upgraded, biting the bullet on a Zotac 3070 Ti that's at least cheaper than eBay averages (according to Tom's Hardware). How's the noise overall? My Zotac sounds like a jet engine taking off when I'm doing intense gaming. Also, considering buying GPUs are worse than group buys (IMHO), I think you should speak more on how you did it. Newegg Shuffle? And also, what was the overall cost? Anyway, great vid, and you've tempted me to go back to ITX because of how great the case options are nowadays.
Hi Marco! Thank you very much for the support! The components were such a pain to procure lol. I did try the newegg shuffle for a few months with no success... I just bought it straight from one of their 3rd party vendors instead... it was terrible. The build is fairly quiet under regular use (web browsing, etc.) but it does get pretty loud during rendering/benchmarking as the CPU temps go up. The overall cost was too much haha... in the $4Ks unfortunately.
@@Keybored It is totally ridiculous. My "luck" came from having Falcodrin's Discord up pretty much all the time while I was at my computer, and coming to terms with the right cost/stress/risk balance for me. By this point, I'd failed at multiple Newegg Shuffles, and many Best Buy drops -- and decided so long as it was a few hundred cheaper than eBay averages, I was okay with Zotac's pricing ($999 vs. the $1200 eBay average) and relatively sane queuing system.
Think of it this way -- this hardware should last us years to come (which is definitely true of the 1070 that my 3070ti replaced, and for sure your build). And no more scrambling to Falcodrin's Discord! 😌😌
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how much did you pay for the 3080?
Lol way too much... I got fed up after waiting 3 months on newegg shuffle bore no fruit
Nice!
Thanks man!
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Yes
Thank you!
I really enjoyed the new type of video!
Thank you so much Airogeneric! It was a really fun build!
That's one crazy mini oven
Haha, indeed! But it's actually not too bad when you are using it for normal day to day and not benchmarking
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Wow that is a nice pc did you know that The Winter One sff case actually has a keyboard switch as a power button and i think you can change it
Oooh that is an interesting concept! I'll have to go look at that
@@Keybored Linus made a build with it ua-cam.com/video/BoFxslm6DKY/v-deo.html
@@cobaltknightofficial cool thanks!
Damn that GPU ran really cool
It's been doing OK. I think having the openimg right next to it helps
need some wide monitor
:) 34" Ultra-wide. But I wouldn't mind the 49" Ultra-ultra wide curved :)
@@Keybored getting a good g9 arent easy
Great video! You can do it all!
Thanks!
Beautiful build and wonderful video!
Thank you so much Felipe!
:o looks pretty nice!
Thank you so much! It was a challenging but fun build!
Im pretty sure microcenter has some gpu's.
Haha I've been stopping by one once a week and all they ever have are the AMD gpus :(
@@Keybored oh, rip
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Thank you! It was a fun build... although I do plan to take it apart to upgrade the radiator fans... the stock corsair ones suck lol.
@@Keybored really?? they charge so much for the aio in the first place, sucks to hear you have to swap the fans.. any particular reason?
thats a clean rig
Thank you so much!
Nice PC bro
Thanks bro!
Soo clean
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Congrats!
Thank you miyuki! I appreciate it!
I love watching your vids! Always so informative and well thought out!
The change of breathe is also great! Whatever content you make, I’ll happily watch and learn!
Thank you so much! This video was challenging and fun at the same time. It was refreshing to do something different than just keyboards :)
How are the temps of i9 with after effects?
It's actually not too bad at all with Adobe CC suites. Only see those crazy Temps with synthetic benchmarks
What mousepad?
Zambumon!
nice
Thank you! I appreciate the support!
@@Keybored a pcb is a pcb.... right?