I thought Adam understood the size of the task when INEOS came in?. It was obvious we had to take a number of steps backwards before we could even move into first gear. It's not like we are a Club competing at the top. It's been getting progressively worse year after year. It was never going to be an immediate quick fix.
Ineos have done some dodgy things so far.But lets be honest, the financial restraints are not there fault.Its going to take time to clear the insane wages a lot of these players are on.
Adam: “I think there is quality in this team “… where? You’re 14th! Having players that score the odd lucky goal is not quality. And to not bring in anyone new during this transfer window would be a wasted opportunity & make’s the painful road to recovery even longer.
It may not be Ineos's fault, but a partial sale of the club was always going to be a much slower process than a full sale. INEOS aren't going to invest huge amounts of money just to improve things for the Glazers. We needed a full sale
Its all great to say we can wait until the summer to get the players we want but this is the same under the glazers for previous 10 years. Come the summer they always dither around and take an eternity to actually sign someone for too much money and panic buy near the end of the window. Its a never ending story of utd in the last 11 years. Our squad is already very thin before we get casemiro, rashford and a few others out this window. They have to at least replace some otherwise we actually have no replacements when we get injuries and suspensions. Its a dire situation and wouldn't blame Amorim if he walked if they dont support his changes. They seem to be supporting him in getting players out but its a worry with getting them players in!
Adam we are never going to spend on big name players as we have way too much debt and too many average players that need to leave to free up wage bill. January will be loans only.
We must have some money. Probably being saved for the summer why else would Amorim leave a club he was competing at to come to club where he couldn't get his own players as the funds have dried up.
Its all a mess, you can kinda see what they’re doing with balancing the books but like Adam says the football is being damaged in the process and that is revenue being pissed away too
@ who me? Lol im not demanding anything. Its the nature of football to spend on players, even Colchester would buy a player. No need to overpay if you have the right people in place to make those smart decisions. We will see.
On the brightside Amorim has had another 7 days on the training pitch with the lads HE wants from the current playing staff! Saw the improvement from the Newcastle performance to the LiVARpool game. I expect a hard earned win at Arsenal! totally agree Adam Casemiro and Rashford out will be a great statement to the fans!
Ugarte was our best buy last summer, zirkzee is debatable. We need to get these players earning way over the top when they don’t give their best throughout the season.
Yeah, just ignore the Glazers piracy, their two decades of pimping and whoreing of the clubs history and legacy and turning it into a cheap Bling brand, forget the way it's been financially ruined, turn a blind eye to the completely amateurish, incompetent and unsustainable way in which the squad has been assembled and disassembled to form the footballing equivalent of a Frankensteins Monster that's been chopped and changed and cut and shut under 6 different managers, with six different philosophies in 12 years....shrug our shoulders at the spoiled Billionaire playboy spending spree of the family trust fund with no understanding of football or one ounce of empathy for the long suffering fans.... No, all we have to do is manifest United into the best run club and greatest team the world has ever seen and the Universe will create it.
I didn’t expect much to happen in January, so can’t say I’m disappointed. Or surprised. I’m afraid Amorim will have to work with what he’s got until the Summer. This season is basically a write off.
The first reason we're in this position is the Glazers, Ratcliffe gave them the opportunity to stay, he kept changing the deal to their satisfaction which they then took, their massive debt still in place a major drain on the finance's. Rat and his crew compounded the problem with mistakes costing multi millions, cuts, price increases to cover it, nothing left for new players and here we are, a very good chance we are screwed.
I don’t understand why when an agent represents a player and gets them a good deal, it isn’t the player who pays them commission , am sure if this was the case the fees wouldn’t be so high except for the top deals, if any other person was using a service they would pay for it , is the fee included in the deal or separate? Confused how it works, I know Sir Alex hated agents
How was the summer transfer window good when we are 14th. Is that how low the standards are these days, we think spending 200m more and going from 8th to 14th is good business?
Adam Ineos have had 1 year to fix Man U it’s going to take years and sir Jim asked for patience we need to give them 3 years to sort out this mess of a club. You have to go backwards to go forwards.
What happened with giving this manager/team time to get rid of deadwood first which was brought in by the previous regime and let him have a summer transfer window.
There's clearly no money they we have to generate money to buy players we are miles off the others around us ineos have made mistakes already we can't really wait till the summer when we need to buy it's clearly not good enough at the minute we are worse now than the last few years we need to buy but the quality and the depth needs to improve.
Amorim needs more training time , patience is required, regarding PSR it's not an issue has people are making it, and amortization is working , players like Shaw, Lindelof, Garnacho, Rashford, Mainoo, Maguire, Eriksen ,Evans and Dalot Free, Casemiro is all most paid up, 50M paid , 17.5 M left It's the salaries that are problem now, Ineos wants the wage bill lowered, Casemiro , Rashford wages together is around 35M per year , this is a major savings, this is how Ineos will conduct businesses, furthermore, Amorim present United squad is better than when he started at Sporting, He needs time to train these players, proof of this the Liverpool game, training them players for a longer period , even if it days, we almost nick it,
The current debt is reputedly $990 million. The 6 Glazer children reputedly own the Glazers share of the club, so on your suggestion, they would put in 300M which still leaves $690M of debt. The club's annual wage bill for the men's first team squad alone is £177,775M, the top earners being Casemiro, Rashford, Bruno and Mount, followed by Antony, de Ligt and Maguire. You can see why some query if the current player sales might be driven by debt reduction.
Stop throwing money at players who have not performed for minimum 2 years consistently. Sorry Mainoo go if you’re not willing to accept as 120-150k pay rise. Bring in the younger players and let muani go to spurs.
Adam this is on the Glazers and Ineos a decade of being run by Greedy owners a board full of idiots and Ineos kept them in power is why we are in 13th place the squad is full of overpaid average players Amorim is not Harry Potter
@@NathanPillay-iq1uw I very much admire Amorim, but he cannot do it all on his own. He needs Ratty, who is runnig the football side, to start producing the cash. The operations of Ineos (aka Ratty) at Nice is not a good portent: 8 managers at Nice since Ratty and his pals took ownership in 2019 -- this tells me that Ratty regards managers as expendable, and that those who wished the Qataris had taken ownership of Utd are probably correct - except the Glazers kept moving the goalposts to prevent this.
@@Bloodnok49 you are right. They got rid of Dan the man in a flash. Reuben could be out the door similar style. Only time will tell. We as United fans only have to hope or be optimistic at this stage. We are sucker's for punishment really.
I thought Adam understood the size of the task when INEOS came in?. It was obvious we had to take a number of steps backwards before we could even move into first gear. It's not like we are a Club competing at the top. It's been getting progressively worse year after year. It was never going to be an immediate quick fix.
INEOS AND GLAZERS ARE ONE
Adam thinks we are 1 player away from champions league. Clueless
Ineos have done some dodgy things so far.But lets be honest, the financial restraints are not there fault.Its going to take time to clear the insane wages a lot of these players are on.
Adam: “I think there is quality in this team “… where? You’re 14th! Having players that score the odd lucky goal is not quality. And to not bring in anyone new during this transfer window would be a wasted opportunity & make’s the painful road to recovery even longer.
I thought to myself at the time, not sacking Hag in the summer would cost us big time. Now Ruben is going to have to work with what tools he has.
Muani would be a strange signing; I don't see how he would strengthen the squad.
It may not be Ineos's fault, but a partial sale of the club was always going to be a much slower process than a full sale. INEOS aren't going to invest huge amounts of money just to improve things for the Glazers. We needed a full sale
Adam we are not into Kava, we have no money!
Making Ruben start nearly half way through a season on the fly, is what’s ruining Ruben’s season
Its all great to say we can wait until the summer to get the players we want but this is the same under the glazers for previous 10 years. Come the summer they always dither around and take an eternity to actually sign someone for too much money and panic buy near the end of the window. Its a never ending story of utd in the last 11 years. Our squad is already very thin before we get casemiro, rashford and a few others out this window. They have to at least replace some otherwise we actually have no replacements when we get injuries and suspensions. Its a dire situation and wouldn't blame Amorim if he walked if they dont support his changes. They seem to be supporting him in getting players out but its a worry with getting them players in!
Adam, Rashford has no demands other than maintaining current salary, making main man at any club chuckle stuff.
Ineos and the glazers will turn united into a club like Brighton average team! It's a Vanity project and they are clueless.
An average team would be an improvement.
Poor comparison Brighton are well run
@wayneflynn8698 very good point, they are better than us.
@@wayneflynn8698 I worry that we they will sell are younger players for profit without improving
Adam we are never going to spend on big name players as we have way too much debt and too many average players that need to leave to free up wage bill. January will be loans only.
Slow down Adam!! You talk too fast.
It's interesting how after 1 year patience is running out. You want changes but aren't willing to suffer to get it done.
Ttashford will put us in the same position Martial did to us he will walk away with massive cash without playing any games.
We must have some money. Probably being saved for the summer why else would Amorim leave a club he was competing at to come to club where he couldn't get his own players as the funds have dried up.
Its all a mess, you can kinda see what they’re doing with balancing the books but like Adam says the football is being damaged in the process and that is revenue being pissed away too
And still you demand we waste further money overpaying to strengthen our squad ?? Makes sense
@ who me? Lol im not demanding anything. Its the nature of football to spend on players, even Colchester would buy a player. No need to overpay if you have the right people in place to make those smart decisions. We will see.
The season was a free hit when Ineos didn't sack ten Hag in the summer
On the brightside Amorim has had another 7 days on the training pitch with the lads HE wants from the current playing staff! Saw the improvement from the Newcastle performance to the LiVARpool game. I expect a hard earned win at Arsenal! totally agree Adam Casemiro and Rashford out will be a great statement to the fans!
The most sensible analysis of United’s transfer window I have heard so far. Regarding Bruno, what other clubs would he have been made captain?
He’d walk into any side in Europe other than Madrid.. Captain? Don’t know.
@ Agree
Ugarte was our best buy last summer, zirkzee is debatable. We need to get these players earning way over the top when they don’t give their best throughout the season.
your fearful mentality is typically a reason where here.
Yeah, just ignore the Glazers piracy, their two decades of pimping and whoreing of the clubs history and legacy and turning it into a cheap Bling brand, forget the way it's been financially ruined, turn a blind eye to the completely amateurish, incompetent and unsustainable way in which the squad has been assembled and disassembled to form the footballing equivalent of a Frankensteins Monster that's been chopped and changed and cut and shut under 6 different managers, with six different philosophies in 12 years....shrug our shoulders at the spoiled Billionaire playboy spending spree of the family trust fund with no understanding of football or one ounce of empathy for the long suffering fans....
No, all we have to do is manifest United into the best run club and greatest team the world has ever seen and the Universe will create it.
Go back to the very first interview sjr did and this time listen to what he says then you’ll relax a bit and not be in such a rush
I didn’t expect much to happen in January, so can’t say I’m disappointed. Or surprised. I’m afraid Amorim will have to work with what he’s got until the Summer. This season is basically a write off.
The first reason we're in this position is the Glazers, Ratcliffe gave them the opportunity to stay, he kept changing the deal to their satisfaction which they then took, their massive debt still in place a major drain on the finance's. Rat and his crew compounded the problem with mistakes costing multi millions, cuts, price increases to cover it, nothing left for new players and here we are, a very good chance we are screwed.
I don’t understand why when an agent represents a player and gets them a good deal, it isn’t the player who pays them commission , am sure if this was the case the fees wouldn’t be so high except for the top deals, if any other person was using a service they would pay for it , is the fee included in the deal or separate? Confused how it works, I know Sir Alex hated agents
Glazernomics is the underlying problem Ineos need to make bolder moves
Ineos are a minority holder, they have to run things via Glazers still, no doubting that!
cheers Adam 👍👍
Mate , stop saying ‘right now ‘ .
How was the summer transfer window good when we are 14th. Is that how low the standards are these days, we think spending 200m more and going from 8th to 14th is good business?
Its the financial damage by glazers that INEOS is trying to clear..its not INEOS fault
Adam Ineos have had 1 year to fix Man U it’s going to take years and sir Jim asked for patience we need to give them 3 years to sort out this mess of a club.
You have to go backwards to go forwards.
What happened with giving this manager/team time to get rid of deadwood first which was brought in by the previous regime and let him have a summer transfer window.
We need more positivity for 2025!!
There's clearly no money they we have to generate money to buy players we are miles off the others around us ineos have made mistakes already we can't really wait till the summer when we need to buy it's clearly not good enough at the minute we are worse now than the last few years we need to buy but the quality and the depth needs to improve.
The rat kept the glazers here. He’s an enemy of ours naw too.
Amorim needs more training time , patience is required, regarding PSR it's not an issue has people are making it, and amortization is working , players like Shaw, Lindelof, Garnacho, Rashford, Mainoo, Maguire, Eriksen ,Evans and Dalot Free, Casemiro is all most paid up, 50M paid , 17.5 M left
It's the salaries that are problem now, Ineos wants the wage bill lowered, Casemiro , Rashford wages together is around 35M per year , this is a major savings, this is how Ineos will conduct businesses, furthermore, Amorim present United squad is better than when he started at Sporting, He needs time to train these players, proof of this the Liverpool game, training them players for a longer period , even if it days, we almost nick it,
If the glazers who are all billionaires pay off some of their debt utd are fine .. whats 50 mill each to a multi billionaires..
Agree, but the greedy parasites wont do that will they, always so short sighted
The current debt is reputedly $990 million. The 6 Glazer children reputedly own the Glazers share of the club, so on your suggestion, they would put in 300M which still leaves $690M of debt.
The club's annual wage bill for the men's first team squad alone is £177,775M, the top earners being Casemiro, Rashford, Bruno and Mount, followed by Antony, de Ligt and Maguire.
You can see why some query if the current player sales might be driven by debt reduction.
Washford is rent free in ur head 😂😂they wanted him out first nothing wrong with what he said 😮😮
Tell psg to take a hike.
Stop throwing money at players who have not performed for minimum 2 years consistently. Sorry Mainoo go if you’re not willing to accept as 120-150k pay rise. Bring in the younger players and let muani go to spurs.
Adam this is on the Glazers and Ineos a decade of being run by Greedy owners a board full of idiots and Ineos kept them in power is why we are in 13th place the squad is full of overpaid average players Amorim is not Harry Potter
Bro we always in the shite, never out of it. Amorim will struggle a lot but because he is smart and ruthless he will overcome the obstacles
I think you mean 2 decades 😡.
@@NathanPillay-iq1uw I very much admire Amorim, but he cannot do it all on his own. He needs Ratty, who is runnig the football side, to start producing the cash.
The operations of Ineos (aka Ratty) at Nice is not a good portent: 8 managers at Nice since Ratty and his pals took ownership in 2019 -- this tells me that Ratty regards managers as expendable, and that those who wished the Qataris had taken ownership of Utd are probably correct - except the Glazers kept moving the goalposts to prevent this.
@@Bloodnok49 you are right. They got rid of Dan the man in a flash. Reuben could be out the door similar style. Only time will tell. We as United fans only have to hope or be optimistic at this stage. We are sucker's for punishment really.
@@raymondmassie4898 let's hope it's not the case. Do we have to wait 3 decades as well as our Arch rivals. Damn I hope not
Also left wingback is priority
Can I just be a pedantic git and say there’s NO SUCH WORD AS MEDIOCRISY
INEOS have made us worse. Absolute clowns.
The season was a free hit when Ineos didn't sack ten Hag in the summer