Pistol grip... Receiver... Barrel Theese were the ingredients chosen for spains smg but bob accidentally added a extra ingredient to the concoction.. Bad stock... And thus the cetme was born
Savinelli 1876 plot twist car manufacturers used gun coating for their truck beds... that being said I have no idea who used what first or even it it was the same thing but assuming they are using similar stuff I’m pretty sure that gun was made in the 60’s while a truck from the 70’s or 80’s still used normal car pain for their truck beds idk I haven’t done my research and I’m basing that on one truck my grandmother owned
RageAZA gaming I mean I’m pretty sure with some simple google searches you can figure out who did what first. As long you know what terms to use which here would start with truck bed liner, another for the gun itself, and one last one for gun coating in general. The longest part would be reading and doing more refine google searches once I got more specific terms to use. I’m just lazy and if I’m gonna read anything be for something I like like information on games mechanics/lore or some story that got my interests. Finding out if a gun used the same coating as truck beds is very low on my list of priorities
"Instead of firing a coherent beam of light like the archaic laser, the blaster fired a compressed, focused, high-energy particle-beam that was very destructive, commonly referred to as a "bolt.""
So we've made a nice smg but the boss wants his son to design part of it Just give him the stock, he can't screw it up that badly Ian 60 years later: this stock is true garbage
"Next is professor Gonzales another world-renowned specialist who will design the barrel and finally the stock will be designed by my 14-year old nephew Bubba. "
For some strange reason I have a need to point out that being European Spanish the surname would be Gonzalez and not Gonzales. Not like it would matter in the first place because the professor would probably be German.
Never knew Spain made these! Every day a school day, eh? Might not be parts interchangeable, but they got the proper old-school crackle finish bang on!
In 1982 Odin International Ltd., of Alexandria, VA imported a small number of the CETME C2 SMGs for a Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) procurement. DEA was looking to replace some MAC and UZI SMGs after an issue arose around a dropped firearm and a sear that failed to keep it from going bangiddy bangdiddy once it hit the ground. It was the mechanical safety mechanism of the CETME C2 that got DEA's attention. IIRC DEA bought H&K MP5s.
The C2 was designed mainily with security forces in mind. Policia and Guardia Civil on national buildings, courthouses and airports you could still see some of those until not so long ago (I ignore if they are still in use, there is no reason to assume they are not in some locations) The idea of the stock is that you use it Mainly as a handguard and to display a visual cue of modernity (which Spain's forces at those days lacked) You could obviously use it in combat but that was not the main idea. This weapon was issued to special forces group. And the plastic in the folding stock seems like an addenda. Never seen that on Spanish issue nor in photos. Excellent video Ian, your videos and your Spanish gets better and better ...
Cetme aka : Centro de Estudios Técnicos de Materiales Especiales, with the special colaboration of "Meister Ludwig Vorgrimer (A god gunsmith) IMAO. C2 had an incident with secure set... Called too " naranjero" (orange tree) like (mp) Z45, Coruña series, etc... bonifacio echevarria S. A company, A large cluster of fire arms.. llama (Gabilondo & Cia.) Retolaza, Campo-Giro even Ballester - Molina who worked in Argentina mainly...
When I was a kid i used to go to school near the Army South HQ in Seville, that same place appears in Lawence of Araby as the british hq in Cairo, and the guards were carrying either this gun or the Star.
Fun fact - in the original Starr Wars movie on vhs you can see the shell casings being ejected from the blanks when framing the scene. Before the digital edits.
Saw a policeman with one of these at a Spanish airport once. He was casually swinging it by one hand (no sling) like it was a toy. Thank god for all those safety features!
This weapon saw very limited use in some Special Operation units of the Spanish Navy, frogmen and ship boarding teams. The finish was intended as a way of improve the grip with wet hands.
I know of an incident that happened,just like Ian described. A brick of troops were de-busing from the back of a Land Rover in Northern Ireland and one of the guys Sterling got caught in some webbing,by the charging handle,when it broke free it let off a round. The result was,the guy lost his life.
The stock is a single source of curse of that c2, very nice and well thought smg, this c2 should made into the new iterations of starwars as a very decent replacement for E11 blaster.. Okay just a face-lift, a new you..
Another improvement: giving you adjustable sights for 50-100 yards instead of 100-200 yards. It's a 9mm open bolt SMG guys, get your heads out of the clouds.
hi, im from spain, and for first congratulations for your videos i enjoy every one you upload here, and the second is: this gun normaly was used by MP, this type of submachines guns normally dont have a military aplication for us, except for personal in tanks airplanes and something like that. sorry for my awfull english but y wanted to explain you a little about this gun in terms of uses that we did to this guns.
If there's anything I love as much as tiny pistols, it's SMG's with weld marks and crackle paint; LOVE an ugly gun that works and was adopted formally 😍
That curious textured surface looks really inviting. Really makes me want to handle it. I'm guessing this should be fairly corrosion resistant as a result.
That little metal that sticks up from the trigger preventing the clambering of the bolt would be helpful if you have a worn sear, as well as being a drop safety.
Often wondered about the British/Spanish engineering connection. Especially with military themed things. You have the Spanish CETME C2 & the British Sterling L3A3 SMG, You also have the Santana Land-Rovers which were almost identical to the venerable Land-Rover Defenders. Both items were very close, just a few subtle differences
IMMentat Well, only if you want to put something into production and have the parts be safely interchangeable with the original. If you want to handmake a one-off, you could probably hand-fit most of the parts together and work out most of the kinks with trial, error, a slow motion camera, and a long string tied to the trigger.
a burst fire mechanism is juts a ratchet and clank, remove them and its full auto. this has no burst fire mechanism R is LITERALLY the position for full auto its not the worlds problem Spain doesnt understand how and automatic weapon works.
Just a little thing. "Tiro" would translate to both "Shot" or "Marksmanship", both fitting for the semi-auto option. At first guess I'd say the R could be for "Repetición" (repetition) meaning automatic, but I guess " Ráfaga" makes sense since it translates to "Burst" which would be the desirable use of automatic.
At what point does the plethora of safety issues and design challenges that accompany open bolt guns cease to outweigh the monetary cost increase inherent to creating a locked system? My guess is this design is the exact limit on that.
How does the wedge safety demonstrated at around 6:00 not accidentally engage during normal operation? It seems like when firing full-auto, after every round there is a small window during which that safety could cause a stoppage if you just happen to be releasing the trigger at the wrong time.
When my father was in the army his Sargeant shot one of those in front of the platoon, the guy was trying to look tough but he missed the target entirely, honestly I doubt we could have fielded this in a war. In addition to this, if you hit the floor with the bottom of the stock of the old Cetme the piece of junk would shoot itself. To all the viewers out there, having had my father and grandfather use those I can assure you you’re better off buying a Spanish hand gun or shotgun, they are far better quality even the bolt-action mausers we produced are really good. And Ian I honestly love your content pal very in depth approach to the guns and context which they were built in not just the mechanics.
If you get a chance to show off a Canadian C1 sub machine gun it would be interesting. I thought that they were just a Canadian made Sterling, but now I see that is not the case.
"Im so proud of everyone on this team. Except for you, Bob. That stock is awful, youre better than that."
Pistol grip... Receiver... Barrel
Theese were the ingredients chosen for spains smg but bob accidentally added a extra ingredient to the concoction.. Bad stock... And thus the cetme was born
@rustybuttpate Being a Spaniard myself, I'd go for "Vaya mierda de culata Rober, para ésto no vales..."
What a shit stock Bob, this is not your thing
@@armr6937 Si, Senor.
no wonder stormtroopers always keep it folded
Nice to see Spain ahead of their time; never thought of coating my guns with truck bed liner......
Savinelli 1876 plot twist car manufacturers used gun coating for their truck beds... that being said I have no idea who used what first or even it it was the same thing but assuming they are using similar stuff I’m pretty sure that gun was made in the 60’s while a truck from the 70’s or 80’s still used normal car pain for their truck beds idk I haven’t done my research and I’m basing that on one truck my grandmother owned
@@RyoLeo so weve got a "chicken or egg" type connundrum.
RageAZA gaming I mean I’m pretty sure with some simple google searches you can figure out who did what first. As long you know what terms to use which here would start with truck bed liner, another for the gun itself, and one last one for gun coating in general. The longest part would be reading and doing more refine google searches once I got more specific terms to use. I’m just lazy and if I’m gonna read anything be for something I like like information on games mechanics/lore or some story that got my interests. Finding out if a gun used the same coating as truck beds is very low on my list of priorities
The Sterling came first and the "paint" is actually baked on, which is why it has that distinctive crinkle texture.
Savinelli 1876 Lol
"These aren't the droids you're looking for"
Yo same.
Ian forgot to mention that it's also commonly known as the E-11
@@Anastunsia had to do a quick google image search to confirm, but was going to post this too. :D
The spanish dubbed version.
Are you sure it doesn't shoot lasers with dubious accuracy?
"Instead of firing a coherent beam of light like the archaic laser, the blaster fired a compressed, focused, high-energy particle-beam that was very destructive, commonly referred to as a "bolt.""
The E-11 blaster was very accurate but plot armour exists
@@GonzoIV exactly
HEY don't blame the gun! Those troopers had it coming.
@@AM-hf9kk Forgotten weapons in star wars universe? Can't wait till he goes through the bombers from the last jedi. LOL XD
The texture of this gun makes is look like it was hand forged.
GreatgoatonFire Roll on Truck bedliner.
@@robertkubrick3738 Umm I'm sorry what?
GreatgoatonFire Lol. He said it looks like roll-on truck bedliner. It's like a paint for your truck bed to protect it.
@@limpingllama57 Oh I've never heard of that. Thanks for clearing it up.
GreatgoatonFire It's not a bad aftermarket finish for the behind the seat pump shotgun or whatever. Kind of textured, non slip.
Ian's spanish is improving, that "ráfaga" was pretty good.
"The CETME C2. For when you want to get your Stormtrooper larp-age on, but can't afford a Sterling."
Wrinkle Paint needs to be brought back. "Forgotten Paints" ;)
My dad used to put green Hammerite on _everything_ , sort of a glossy green wrinkle, not so tactical but very hard-wearing.
So we've made a nice smg but the boss wants his son to design part of it
Just give him the stock, he can't screw it up that badly
Ian 60 years later: this stock is true garbage
"Next is professor Gonzales another world-renowned specialist who will design the barrel and finally the stock will be designed by my 14-year old nephew Bubba. "
He might as well have :D
For some strange reason I have a need to point out that being European Spanish the surname would be Gonzalez and not Gonzales. Not like it would matter in the first place because the professor would probably be German.
@@Yumao420 Yeah, it should have been a "Von Gonzalez." 😄
@@rotwang2000 quite probably was
I love all the simple but effective improvements. I’d carry one.
"Lets talk about the elephant in the room"
No mention of star wars.
The bantha in the poodoo?
Calum Barnes the gun George lucas used for the one stormtrooper gun was the sterling so maybe that’s why
They were but damn that's a dead ringer
Preston Samson all of the guns in star wars look like ww2 guns, you are only just now noticing this?
STORM TROOPERS REJECTED THIS
Sterlings always look really cool
I like the finish and safety features on this firearm 👍
Never knew Spain made these! Every day a school day, eh?
Might not be parts interchangeable, but they got the proper old-school crackle finish bang on!
Hammerite!
But noisy as hell, the metal absorved better the heat, but dust damaged early than sterling s...
The paint finish looks awesome
In 1982 Odin International Ltd., of Alexandria, VA imported a small number of the CETME C2 SMGs for a Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) procurement. DEA was looking to replace some MAC and UZI SMGs after an issue arose around a dropped firearm and a sear that failed to keep it from going bangiddy bangdiddy once it hit the ground. It was the mechanical safety mechanism of the CETME C2 that got DEA's attention. IIRC DEA bought H&K MP5s.
Galactic Empire wants to know your location
I was expecting this comment and I was not disappointed. FOR THE EMPIRE!
This comment is in every gun similar to the sterling...
U mean, Spanish Empire. We always be an Empire Dude.😘
@@lordbouzas3640 oh no, he means the British Empire.
@@trickshot646 ok we are both empires.
👍
The C2 was designed mainily with security forces in mind. Policia and Guardia Civil on national buildings, courthouses and airports you could still see some of those until not so long ago (I ignore if they are still in use, there is no reason to assume they are not in some locations) The idea of the stock is that you use it Mainly as a handguard and to display a visual cue of modernity (which Spain's forces at those days lacked) You could obviously use it in combat but that was not the main idea. This weapon was issued to special forces group. And the plastic in the folding stock seems like an addenda. Never seen that on Spanish issue nor in photos. Excellent video Ian, your videos and your Spanish gets better and better ...
3:15. I love when you pronounce Spanish names ha ha ha. Greetings from Spain, Jesucristo de las armas.
Cetme aka : Centro de Estudios Técnicos de Materiales Especiales, with the special colaboration of "Meister Ludwig Vorgrimer (A god gunsmith) IMAO.
C2 had an incident with secure set...
Called too " naranjero" (orange tree) like (mp) Z45, Coruña series, etc... bonifacio echevarria S. A company, A large cluster of fire arms.. llama (Gabilondo & Cia.) Retolaza, Campo-Giro even Ballester - Molina who worked in Argentina mainly...
When I was a kid i used to go to school near the Army South HQ in Seville, that same place appears in Lawence of Araby as the british hq in Cairo, and the guards were carrying either this gun or the Star.
"if the gun gets stuck throw It away and take anoother one or can explote"
-A general to my dad when he was in the army
Also known as the E-11 Blaster. The Empires main battle weapon for its Stormtroopers. Lol
icepicjoey damn I was going to say that as soon as I saw the thumbnail
beat me to it ya wanker
This is also the _DC-15S Carbine_ used by, the *Clone Army of the Galactic Republic.* 🤔
@TheMetalGuy852 I'm sure everyone in the comments of the Sterling videos already beat y'all to it years ago
Fun fact - in the original Starr Wars movie on vhs you can see the shell casings being ejected from the blanks when framing the scene. Before the digital edits.
I have a picture of me and the Spanise Guardia Civil and it look like the gun he has is this gun that was around 1977
I know you didn't mean it this way, but I love the way your wording suggests that the Spanish Guardia Civil is one guy. :)
Saw a policeman with one of these at a Spanish airport once. He was casually swinging it by one hand (no sling) like it was a toy. Thank god for all those safety features!
This weapon saw very limited use in some Special Operation units of the Spanish Navy, frogmen and ship boarding teams. The finish was intended as a way of improve the grip with wet hands.
I know of an incident that happened,just like Ian described. A brick of troops were de-busing from the back of a Land Rover in Northern Ireland and one of the guys Sterling got caught in some webbing,by the charging handle,when it broke free it let off a round. The result was,the guy lost his life.
El force is with you, el Skywalkerino!
Non-reciprocating charging handle wonderful. But change the stock.
Would be fantastic if someone put the Sterling stock on it. Always liked that cleaver design
The stock is a single source of curse of that c2, very nice and well thought smg, this c2 should made into the new iterations of starwars as a very decent replacement for E11 blaster.. Okay just a face-lift, a new you..
I love the texture of the gun.
Love the barrel texture!
Sand coating, actually a pretty good idea. So many useful applications when I think of it more and more.
Seen a Guardia Civil on the Spain-Andorra border with one of these just last year.
Another improvement: giving you adjustable sights for 50-100 yards instead of 100-200 yards.
It's a 9mm open bolt SMG guys, get your heads out of the clouds.
Youre not fooling me, thats an E-11 blaster rifle.
The fact the stock doesnt double as a foregrip baffles me
This is the gun version of "Hey, can I copy off your homework?" "Fine, just change it a little so nobody notices."
So glad you did this video. I was just on their site and saw it and was very curious if it was a Sterling clone or junk. I guess it's neither!
I wonder if the fact that Gun Jesus has touched these, gives a boost to the auction price.
Everyone is making Star Wars jokes meanwhile I’m here marvelling over how cool Frost’s gun is.
hi, im from spain, and for first congratulations for your videos i enjoy every one you upload here, and the second is: this gun normaly was used by MP, this type of submachines guns normally dont have a military aplication for us, except for personal in tanks airplanes and something like that. sorry for my awfull english but y wanted to explain you a little about this gun in terms of uses that we did to this guns.
it is really nice that if you buy one of these guns at an auction you get a free history lesson and guide for the gun.
I loved using this gun in Ghost Recon Wildlands. Had it on secondary whenever charging a base going loud, right behind either my fal or Ak
Weird finish. The trigger group looks like HK. Really interesting video.
Thanks for your work!
Imperial March: Intensifies.
Looooooorrrrrdddddd vadeeeeerrrrrrr
That crackle paint makes it look like it spent 20 years on the bottom of a lake.
Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen
And here I though CETME was the name of the 7.62 rifle. Well, you learn something every day.
I don't always shoot 9mm Largo, but when I do I wear my bad guy eye patch.
Its also an E-11
Great stuff 🇬🇧👍.
Very Cool sterling SMG
Gun Jedi showing us them E-11 blasters lol
It’s got some really cool features (uses tabanna gas)
Finally a Blaster review
If there's anything I love as much as tiny pistols, it's SMG's with weld marks and crackle paint; LOVE an ugly gun that works and was adopted formally 😍
What about ugly guns that don't work and were adopted formally?
That is a star wars blaster
I personally love that finish but for whatever reason it was not very common on guns but was on cars...
The Spanish AF used this weapon during 84-87 (I was stationed in Spain during that time).
Better than Star Z84 (a remake of uzi)
I'm pretty sure this is a Stormtroopers laser blaster. I really love the paint though, gun makers need to bring it back on modern rifles.
That curious textured surface looks really inviting. Really makes me want to handle it.
I'm guessing this should be fairly corrosion resistant as a result.
Um, no, Ian, this is clearly an Imperial issue Stormtrooper blaster rifle
Ok who at first thought this must've been a roller delayed design thing when you see CETME?
Idk but all I could think of was.... CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES THIS IS MY LAST RESORT
SUFFOCATION
NO BREATHING
DONT GIVE A F*** IF I CUT MY ARM BLEEDING
I would, but Spain got the idea right, simpler and cheaper to outsourced HK mp5..
That little metal that sticks up from the trigger preventing the clambering of the bolt would be helpful if you have a worn sear, as well as being a drop safety.
3:05 So, "locks stock in barrel guard."
Looks like someone went crazy with the Parkerizing.
Looks like a Sterling smg with carbon fibre camo.
It looks like a freshly paved road
Practically invisible when fighting inside of a TV with the AV cords disconnected
Some really interesting features to it...
Everybody: It shoots lazers
@ 0:52 Is it just me, or does the Sterling look like a Star Wars blaster?
What do the helical grooves around the bolt do?
I can't believe they made the E-11 into a real life gun
You realize the Star Wars prop is a real gun with some bits glued on it, right?
@@ForgottenWeapons I joke, I know pretty much all the Star Wars weapons are real guns with bits on it to make it look more "sci-fi"
im sorry but that gun is sexy and tactical stealth looking af. damn i wish i owned it. that paint job is friggin unique.
never got a chance with the sterling at any trigger time but my old man was R.A.F and spent many a time on them and said they were good smg's.
Often wondered about the British/Spanish engineering connection. Especially with military themed things. You have the Spanish CETME C2 & the British Sterling L3A3 SMG, You also have the Santana Land-Rovers which were almost identical to the venerable Land-Rover Defenders. Both items were very close, just a few subtle differences
Este subfusil era el que utilizaban los Mossos de escuadra en el 92 creo. Me dejaron mirar una a fondo.
I'm interested in the significance of the cork paintjob on it; why isn't that more standardized?
a nice interesting piece!, I hope U have the time to test it at the range, beside the stern, thks!
Is the texture of the tube receiver matter? I noticed that it was quite different.
You show all these interesting guns and I wonder are there blueprints available?
steamboatmodel blueprints are irrelevant without the machining tolerances and material requirements.
IMMentat Well, only if you want to put something into production and have the parts be safely interchangeable with the original. If you want to handmake a one-off, you could probably hand-fit most of the parts together and work out most of the kinks with trial, error, a slow motion camera, and a long string tied to the trigger.
I just finished playing Battlefront II, opened youtube, saw this thumbnail and wondered why Ian is looking at an E-11 Blaster
O Glack this is a real gun
hey Ian we would love to see a review of the port said smg
It's coming; I have it filmed.
@@ForgottenWeaponsYou are the best Ian !!
An Egyptian copy of Carl Gustav m/45 SMG if I'm not mistaken.
@@rizaradri316 spot on sir!
Ian, “rafaga” means “burst” but it is used incorrectly for saying its full-auto
a burst fire mechanism is juts a ratchet and clank, remove them and its full auto.
this has no burst fire mechanism
R is LITERALLY the position for full auto
its not the worlds problem Spain doesnt understand how and automatic weapon works.
Just a little thing. "Tiro" would translate to both "Shot" or "Marksmanship", both fitting for the semi-auto option. At first guess I'd say the R could be for "Repetición" (repetition) meaning automatic, but I guess " Ráfaga" makes sense since it translates to "Burst" which would be the desirable use of automatic.
Just to clarify; the E-11 (you all damn well know what I mean) was based not on this but on the British Sterling SMG which this is also based on.
even the bolts rifled goddammit
I have a Gevarm E1 with that same crackle/krinkle finish. Sure seems to be more common than I thought in 60's European firearms
Seems like a missed opportunity to not allow the butt plate in the forward position to be used as a forward verticle grip.
Has Ian ever done a video on the Beretta 93R? I would be interested in seeing that.
It looks like the butt plate would make a better vertical forgrip when its folded under than it would be as a stock.
I'm a simple man, I see forgotten weapons, I click like
At what point does the plethora of safety issues and design challenges that accompany open bolt guns cease to outweigh the monetary cost increase inherent to creating a locked system? My guess is this design is the exact limit on that.
Nice weapon, with the look of but quite different to the Sterling. But not something that would Cetme on fire.
You
Out.
How does the wedge safety demonstrated at around 6:00 not accidentally engage during normal operation? It seems like when firing full-auto, after every round there is a small window during which that safety could cause a stoppage if you just happen to be releasing the trigger at the wrong time.
Yeah but can you set it to stun mode.
Not with that stock. :)
@@ZGryphon Holy shit that's dark
When my father was in the army his Sargeant shot one of those in front of the platoon, the guy was trying to look tough but he missed the target entirely, honestly I doubt we could have fielded this in a war. In addition to this, if you hit the floor with the bottom of the stock of the old Cetme the piece of junk would shoot itself. To all the viewers out there, having had my father and grandfather use those I can assure you you’re better off buying a Spanish hand gun or shotgun, they are far better quality even the bolt-action mausers we produced are really good. And Ian I honestly love your content pal very in depth approach to the guns and context which they were built in not just the mechanics.
When Mira and Frost have a lovechild.
Did they contract with Cobray?
It is also known as a variant of the E-11 blaster rifle. Just for the record.
If you get a chance to show off a Canadian C1 sub machine gun it would be interesting. I thought that they were just a Canadian made Sterling, but now I see that is not the case.