I'm pretty sure it doesn't hurt your motor when you increase/decrease your sprocket counts; the only thing that matters is how many watts your controller puts into your motor.
it's not only watts. amps matter more because heat in a conductor is R*I^2 but as long as you keep in mind 100% throttle at very low speed or top speed should not be used continuously, you should bebok.Although if top speed is electronically limited and is significantly below the actual max rpm/needs only partial throttle to maintain, then you should be good staying at top speed forever, but I don't think the sur Ron is restricted once you cut the wire
There's one thing you missed. If you go actually fast, as in more than 60 mph, you really should take the time to make sure your rear wheel is really true. It makes a big difference at high speeds.
I want 32hours so the 2-3 hours a day I spend editing after work would put me around 40-44hours a week and have more time to fix bikes and whatever it is
the only difference is that engines (especially motorcycle engines) keep building torque and power the higher you go into the rooms,so lower gearing means more wheel torque all the way. electric motors have peak torque from 0rpm and reach peak power quite early, passed that point more rpm means less power so longer gearing can still have more acceleration once you pass that point (let's say around half top speed) this is why Porsche did put a 2 speed transmission in the back of the taycan that shifts at "low" speeds (around 40 mph but can be between 30 and 60 mph depending on driving mode/throttle position). the first gear could probably go 120-150mph but it would be simply slower than second gear passed 60mph even though it has shorter gearing... So just keep in mind that gearing just doesn't affect performance on electric motors exactly the same way it does on gas engines even though in the end because gas engines have transmissions, it still comes down to lower gearing gives more low speed torque, higher gearing more top speed, but the difference on electric motors it means also more high speed acceleration.
Digging the channel. Wish you’d talked more about your tire setup. Finding pure street tires for the Surron is exhausting. I know they exist but no one talks about them. I’ll search through your vids I’m sure u made one
I had both the RCR and the SurRon. I sold the Onyx, it seemed I would always head for the SurRon when I went to the garage. I’m 79 years old weigh 135# and like the low weight and riding position. The RCR was sprung for someone a lot heavier than me. Also the SurRon looks/is designed by engineers and built by robots where the RCR looked like it was an after work garage project. A really good one but not quite ready for Prime Time. The battery cover didn’t quite fit. I was able to get it off without tearing the seat but was afraid I would rip it putting it on. So I left it off. I kinda wish I had kept it now. The price has gone up a lot and maybe it would have been a worthwhile project to make it fit me. I backed it early on Indiegogo. Initially the CTY, after the upgrade I think I paid $2,100. Sold it for $2,975. Anyway, I love the SurRon and am planning the BAC 4000/LightSpeed 72/34 battery/controller upgrade.
Does it mess up the controller or battery doing full throttle for a long time? Do I need to let off and not do full throttle? Other UA-cam people like you don't answer me lol. That's y I follow you haaaa
Oh I will say 100% you need to understand your set up and see where your temperatures are at on your bike. With any BAC 4000 or bac8000 the EggRider or Green line engineering display. It will Show your motor and controller temps. All these set ups have safety features built into them and you can also tune the temperatures yourself to whatever you want it to be. The main thing you have to worry about is the stock motor I would never tell someone that’s pushing 15,000 W of power to hold the throttle longer than 15 secs at a time
48t on 17inch wheels. Basically the stock sprocket on smaller supermoto wheels. Normally we run the 42t on supermotos. So I can push more top speed if I drop down
Bac4000 or bac8000 controller and you can go 60mph max real gps. Change the battery and u can pull more power and go 75mph ish and have more range. Stock the bike in sports mode is 44mph real gps. Not 50 ^
I put mine down to 500-550 myself but mine was at 730 at one point. No problems at all. Just to much heat generated. Also took mine down from 18000w to 15000w because it wasn’t that big of a day to day difference for me
sorry but it doesn't make a lot of sense..sprockets rotate at same rate if you are going the same speed and using the same wheel size. but you are somehow right that same motor speed means bigger sprocket rotates slower if that's what you meant
bigger sprocket you don't need as much torque/amps to go the same speed/acceleration so the motor won't heat as much, except with shorter gearing you are more likely to go past the sweet spot where the motor is efficient. when power really starts dropping and the motor is basically limited by it's rpm (like close to the speed you'd be getting with the bike on a stand) that's where you don't want to stay for a long time because efficiency drops too. it's not efficient for the range and means much more heat dumped into the motor. the worse is going 100% throttle at slow speed like on a very steep hill but it's not likely to happen on a sur Ron, it's more a concern for low powered hub motor ebikes if you have a long climb and you are going full throttle/maximum assist level and the bike is still losing speed, because the controller is dumping max amps and the motor/controller get little air cooling. Then you should drop gears and start doing more work with the pedals. But again, not likely to happen on a sur Ron with the torque/gear reduction and power to weight, unless you're climbing a steep mountain all the way from bottom to the top... I'd say any gearing works as long as you are not loading the motor 100% at top speed for very long periods of time. just don't be to hard on the mechanics, even though electric motors are more resilient to abuse than gas engines, you always want to keep a margin to keep the drivetrain happy. unless you are racing and you don't care about wear or burning a motor/controller
I don't ride 70 on my Kawasaki Z125. You are getting into the danger zone there Maverick. Like that Top Gun reference? Well be safe out there, it's not the speed that's sketch it's the drivers and the poorly maintained streets in Fresno. One question I have is do you wear a motorcycle helmet?
Just be careful going that fast on windy gusty days without a windshield. I go 50mph or more and when the wind gust come out of no where it can be scary.. 30- 60mph is a good speed keep up with traffic depending where yoy are. Having the ability to go 60 doesnt mean do it all the time but it gives you a chance to keep your space away from traffic ...the more you can avoid vehicles passing you the less chance you have of being hit its that simple...
Haha it’s not that easy to think that way. Lunches, driving to work, editing videos every day for a few hours. Full 8 hours of sleep. Showering. Eating. Laundry. Prepped equipment everyday to be charged including the bikes. You can’t expect somebody to not get sleep and work two jobs back to back all week with zero sleep and be healthy or clean
@@MrCentralDriver I'm not saying you should do anything or do I expect anything... all I'm saying is 8 hours out of a day leaves you 16. That's a hell a lot of time to get shit done. I wish 40 hours was an option lol, I know people work 90+ hour weeks and still get a lot done after work.
Dude litespeed scammed the shit out of me, I bought a 72 volt battery and a bac8000 from them last October, total was over $3,000 and they just stopped responding to me after my order was in. They were happy to answer all my questions BEFORE I payed though
iv'e been told they went out of business but still the website is taking orders so I'm lost on what's going on at litespeed ? took me 4 months to get my battery
@@MrCentralDriver that's a problem too. They see it as a dirtbike on the road, or if saw as a motorcycle it needs VIN, reg insurance and a licence. Either way problems.
The smaller your smaller the chain ring the better it is for your motor because the motor likes to spin fast so the bigger the chain ring the harder the motor has to work I've changed the one on my electric bike from a 44 to a 36 for more torque and to to easier on my motor 😊
Sur ron the higher / bigger the sprocket is. The more torque you gain. If I go back to stock which is 42t on my supermoto wheels I’ll get better top end but less torque.
Hmmm looking at your sur Ron I am having doubts on upgrading me new super 73 RX Mojave :( know anyone looking to buy a new super 73 and a 5000w motor kit ? I am just going to buy a sur Ron :)
Depends on what type of riding you do . If more off-road get Sur Ron . I have a 72 volt SurRon and riden buddy’s 72 volt super 73RX fully charged it’s 8400 watts 100 amps . Super 73 is plenty fast topped out at 51 mph gps different is in off-road capability
@@SuperJj2468 I have the new RX and feel that is super slow . I need more torque and that’s why I bought the 72v motor kit but seen that the sur Ron has more toque stock . I am just going to sell everything and just use the sur Ron stock :/
@@retro93277 yes stock super 73 has no torque and top speed is like 31 mph. With 72 v battery and upgrade 5,000 watt motor super 73 has a lot of torque more then a stock SurRon and has a higher top speed then a stock SurRon as well. SurRon tops out stock around 43/44 mph on gps . All depends what type of riding you do. Now upgraded 72 volt SurRon is where the power is at 75 mph and a ton of torque but that’s will cost you another 3,000 dollars in upgrades
@@retro93277 true about the same to upgrade your super 73 to 72 volts . Just the 5,000 watt motor Is 1000 dollars then you need 72 volt battery. This complete kit for super73 motor/battery/controller/enclosure is like 2700 dollars with tax then shipping . Like I said a 72 volt super 73 is faster in acceleration then a stock SurRon and has more top speed then a SurRon . All depends what your looking to do with bike
I just want my bike to be able to keep up with traffic, i think its not safe when you're slower than everyone. I'd be happy with 40 and faster get up and go.
That seems fine until you realize your in the bike lane and traffic is bumper to bumper and you wanna turn left at the street ahead. You have to either slow all the way down and wait for all the traffic or use the bike lane at the intersection. I realized 60mph is perfect because you can cruise with traffic but also speed up to get around people. Plus people always go over the speed limit by 5mph always if not more
May be true out there in California, but i live in nebraska. No bike lanes here, bikes just ride with traffic and have to treat you as a vehicle. I wouldn't mind the capability of hitting 60 though but i ride on side streets so speed limit is mostly 35 or 40 on my routes.
Where does your bike work harder From a stand still, or while it's already up to speed. I'd say I think it's working it's hardest from a standstill (torque) burns up the motor not top speed.
@@MrCentralDriver confidence or not, you can't control other drivers on the street. The fact is that motorcycles lack the safety features of a car. Hopefully nothing happens tho
@@fantasticalhistory4285 other drivers have nothing to do with how the bike performs and is operated.. you said “one slip up and..” implying that if the rider makes a mistake they are grated meat. So, again.. what do other drivers have to do with one’s abilities to operate the bike?
@@daddychill619 also I think just swapping the battery to 72v already increases top speed, but controller upgrade adds much more torque and even higher top speed
I'm pretty sure it doesn't hurt your motor when you increase/decrease your sprocket counts; the only thing that matters is how many watts your controller puts into your motor.
Thank you!
it's not only watts. amps matter more because heat in a conductor is R*I^2
but as long as you keep in mind 100% throttle at very low speed or top speed should not be used continuously, you should bebok.Although if top speed is electronically limited and is significantly below the actual max rpm/needs only partial throttle to maintain, then you should be good staying at top speed forever, but I don't think the sur Ron is restricted once you cut the wire
theres also this thing called friction, which generates heat. the faster it goes, the more is generated.
There's one thing you missed. If you go actually fast, as in more than 60 mph, you really should take the time to make sure your rear wheel is really true. It makes a big difference at high speeds.
4:05 40 hours compressed work weeks are the best. 7:59 should be intro for every video
I want 32hours so the 2-3 hours a day I spend editing after work would put me around 40-44hours a week and have more time to fix bikes and whatever it is
I love the riding videos...plan to get a go pro and make some myself
This was a great video. I like your explanation of speed.
I would imagine it’s like changing a sprocket on a motorcycle where engine performance is the same but you just trade speed for acceleration.
Yeah exactly.
the only difference is that engines (especially motorcycle engines) keep building torque and power the higher you go into the rooms,so lower gearing means more wheel torque all the way. electric motors have peak torque from 0rpm and reach peak power quite early, passed that point more rpm means less power so longer gearing can still have more acceleration once you pass that point (let's say around half top speed)
this is why Porsche did put a 2 speed transmission in the back of the taycan that shifts at "low" speeds (around 40 mph but can be between 30 and 60 mph depending on driving mode/throttle position). the first gear could probably go 120-150mph but it would be simply slower than second gear passed 60mph even though it has shorter gearing...
So just keep in mind that gearing just doesn't affect performance on electric motors exactly the same way it does on gas engines even though in the end because gas engines have transmissions, it still comes down to lower gearing gives more low speed torque, higher gearing more top speed, but the difference on electric motors it means also more high speed acceleration.
BTW thank you for all your info and what you do!!!
Ahh i can’t even imagine the fun of driving a Surron to work Awsome. 😎❤️🔥
Best thing ever and it goes fast enough where the heat doesn’t get to you as much
Fr I want one but would have to save up for a year to get it gonna see if I save up enough for a used one
I don't mind the same videos to work, at least you have new things to say. By the way "1BOPEEP" Little Bo Peep lost her sheep. It's a nursery rhym. 😆
Lmao would have never guessed it ment that.
🤦🏻♂️😂
where did you buy your 72v battery pack from? Luna cycle is out of the Panasonic pack and I can't find any other pack
I got mine from litespeed but they are out of business from what I was told. You would have to go with chi batteries
@@MrCentralDriver thanks I will look into that. Or I might just learn how to do it myself if it comes down to it.
@@MrCentralDriver woah lite speed is done
Hey,
Nice vid.
Is the bike stock, what sprcket do you use?
In this video I believe 48t with 17inch wheels
What speedo app do you use?
Speedometer on iOS
@@MrCentralDriver thank you. Keep up the on the vids..
How were you able to connect your phone to your bike? What app is that sir?
Speedometer on iOS for mph speed. GLE app but u need there Controller
Digging the channel. Wish you’d talked more about your tire setup. Finding pure street tires for the Surron is exhausting. I know they exist but no one talks about them. I’ll search through your vids I’m sure u made one
Do you prefer the surron or the onyx rcr? I wish the RCR could actually reach up to 60mph without any mods.
Surron all day.
I had both the RCR and the SurRon. I sold the Onyx, it seemed I would always head for the SurRon when I went to the garage. I’m 79 years old weigh 135# and like the low weight and riding position. The RCR was sprung for someone a lot heavier than me. Also the SurRon looks/is designed by engineers and built by robots where the RCR looked like it was an after work garage project. A really good one but not quite ready for Prime Time. The battery cover didn’t quite fit. I was able to get it off without tearing the seat but was afraid I would rip it putting it on. So I left it off. I kinda wish I had kept it now. The price has gone up a lot and maybe it would have been a worthwhile project to make it fit me. I backed it early on Indiegogo. Initially the CTY, after the upgrade I think I paid $2,100. Sold it for $2,975. Anyway, I love the SurRon and am planning the BAC 4000/LightSpeed 72/34 battery/controller upgrade.
@@theknifedude1881 damn good for you man at 79💪🏼
Does it mess up the controller or battery doing full throttle for a long time? Do I need to let off and not do full throttle? Other UA-cam people like you don't answer me lol. That's y I follow you haaaa
Oh I will say 100% you need to understand your set up and see where your temperatures are at on your bike. With any BAC 4000 or bac8000 the EggRider or Green line engineering display. It will Show your motor and controller temps. All these set ups have safety features built into them and you can also tune the temperatures yourself to whatever you want it to be. The main thing you have to worry about is the stock motor I would never tell someone that’s pushing 15,000 W of power to hold the throttle longer than 15 secs at a time
@@MrCentralDriver thnx buddy! Appreciate you!
Yeah no problem. And by holding the throttle I mean pinned 15+ secs it wouldn’t be good at all.
I’m going to get a surron from Luna do you recommend the super moto wheels cause I’m going to be mostly on street and going high speeds
I still have knobby s on mine. What street tire do you recommend?
Anything really. Just look up the speed rating. Get P or better. Supermoto wheel set on lunacycle is cheap
how long will the battery last? 2 years? i wonder how long before the battery no longer holds a charge.
About 1000 full cycle charges is the standard. 2000 if you don’t charge the cells to max.
The speed is fantastic on these but what's the range if you ride fairly normal?
+20 riding btw eco and sport mode
stock i did 20miles at 45mph. this battery about 45-50miles at traffic speed
What sprocket did you have on when you hit 68
48t on 17inch wheels. Basically the stock sprocket on smaller supermoto wheels. Normally we run the 42t on supermotos. So I can push more top speed if I drop down
@@MrCentralDriver sweet that’s what I’m running I love it 😂
I assume 68 mph isn’t possible with a stock Sur Ron bike from the factory. What’s different about yours that enables that speed?
Stock eco mode : 32mph max
Stock sport mode: 50 mph max
Upgrade controller to go faster
Bac4000 or bac8000 controller and you can go 60mph max real gps. Change the battery and u can pull more power and go 75mph ish and have more range. Stock the bike in sports mode is 44mph real gps. Not 50 ^
@@MrCentralDriver Mine is 50mph stock battery, stock controller
What model is this?
sur ron x
With the stock tires, yes. Stock grips that tend to slip.
there's Mr Central Driver going to work again....yeah, with nearly 11000 subs and growing.
Doing something right bro.
Somehow haha
What kind of phase amps and watts are you pushing? My BAC8000 isn't happy over 550 phase amps. I hear guys pushing 750 to 800!
I put mine down to 500-550 myself but mine was at 730 at one point. No problems at all. Just to much heat generated. Also took mine down from 18000w to 15000w because it wasn’t that big of a day to day difference for me
Smaller sprocket revolution is more than a larger one. Larger one takes more time to fully rotate
sorry but it doesn't make a lot of sense..sprockets rotate at same rate if you are going the same speed and using the same wheel size. but you are somehow right that same motor speed means bigger sprocket rotates slower if that's what you meant
Can surron go to 80 pmh or hub motor?
Mid drive motor. And it can go 80 with a smaller sprocket
@@MrCentralDriver um okay just wondering
Did 82.5 yesterday on 48t sproket. Bac4000 72 v
Do you need a motorcycle endorsement for the surron?
No. It’s an ebike if you have the pedal kit on it but you most ride it following your cities bike Laws
Hey bro I want to ask if you have any problem with your 72v super73 rear wheel being straight laced instead of crossed?
No. Nothing yet. I only have 300miles on it but nothing
Hey Buddy, I just bought my first ebike. The G-Force 42 can you suggest the best high range backup battery I can buy for this bike. So I could have 2.
I’m sorry but I don’t no much about that bike
This is KPH I'm assuming
No it’s mph
@@MrCentralDriver wow.....awesome machine
That KO motor looks sick! With my stock sprocket and my 72 volt battery and BAC4000 i can hit 74 MPH.
That’s how I hit 74mph also. Never tried on the bac8000
@@MrCentralDriver the bac4000 72v can do 79mph+ whit the nxt display. It cause u use eggriders this is public tuning it can be tuned way better
bigger sprocket you don't need as much torque/amps to go the same speed/acceleration so the motor won't heat as much, except with shorter gearing you are more likely to go past the sweet spot where the motor is efficient. when power really starts dropping and the motor is basically limited by it's rpm (like close to the speed you'd be getting with the bike on a stand) that's where you don't want to stay for a long time because efficiency drops too. it's not efficient for the range and means much more heat dumped into the motor. the worse is going 100% throttle at slow speed like on a very steep hill but it's not likely to happen on a sur Ron, it's more a concern for low powered hub motor ebikes if you have a long climb and you are going full throttle/maximum assist level and the bike is still losing speed, because the controller is dumping max amps and the motor/controller get little air cooling. Then you should drop gears and start doing more work with the pedals.
But again, not likely to happen on a sur Ron with the torque/gear reduction and power to weight, unless you're climbing a steep mountain all the way from bottom to the top...
I'd say any gearing works as long as you are not loading the motor 100% at top speed for very long periods of time. just don't be to hard on the mechanics, even though electric motors are more resilient to abuse than gas engines, you always want to keep a margin to keep the drivetrain happy. unless you are racing and you don't care about wear or burning a motor/controller
I don't ride 70 on my Kawasaki Z125. You are getting into the danger zone there Maverick. Like that Top Gun reference? Well be safe out there, it's not the speed that's sketch it's the drivers and the poorly maintained streets in Fresno. One question I have is do you wear a motorcycle helmet?
Yes. Same one in my image
Not sure what this is about?
I could really use that hall sensor video right about now lol
I just started editing it last night
Same here :/
Me not having one watching every single video dreaming about getting one
What I did before I bought one lmao
@@MrCentralDriver I don’t think ima be able to buy one lol
Just be careful going that fast on windy gusty days without a windshield. I go 50mph or more and when the wind gust come out of no where it can be scary.. 30- 60mph is a good speed keep up with traffic depending where yoy are. Having the ability to go 60 doesnt mean do it all the time but it gives you a chance to keep your space away from traffic ...the more you can avoid vehicles passing you the less chance you have of being hit its that simple...
Heavy tyres stops all this non sense don’t know if the trade off is worth it for most people tho
40 hours a week is only 8 hours out of 24. You have more than enough time to do anything.
Haha it’s not that easy to think that way. Lunches, driving to work, editing videos every day for a few hours. Full 8 hours of sleep. Showering. Eating. Laundry. Prepped equipment everyday to be charged including the bikes. You can’t expect somebody to not get sleep and work two jobs back to back all week with zero sleep and be healthy or clean
@@MrCentralDriver I'm not saying you should do anything or do I expect anything... all I'm saying is 8 hours out of a day leaves you 16. That's a hell a lot of time to get shit done. I wish 40 hours was an option lol, I know people work 90+ hour weeks and still get a lot done after work.
Which speed app is that? 🤔 Does it juice your phone battery? I use “speedometer and odometer by Nikhil K.” & it drainssssss by 📱 🔋 like crazy!
I sometimes feel my days are Repetitive same shit different day 😊😅
Isn’t a school zone 25
When it’s active and the street lights are flashing orange school is active and it’s 25mph. If not it’s the normal speed limit
I live out in fresno
Dude litespeed scammed the shit out of me, I bought a 72 volt battery and a bac8000 from them last October, total was over $3,000 and they just stopped responding to me after my order was in. They were happy to answer all my questions BEFORE I payed though
iv'e been told they went out of business but still the website is taking orders so I'm lost on what's going on at litespeed ? took me 4 months to get my battery
@@MrCentralDriver when did yours arrive? Because it's been well over 8 months for me
Had the same issues. File a claim with your credit card.
@@offroadfozzy I did but I used debit so it's basically like I handed them cash
I can only do 27mph on mine, lol
Cut the green wire lol
@@MrCentralDriver Ill do that when i get a higher end bike lol \m/
Things seems less mundane for an ebike commuters ☝️🤟👽🚲
Damn if I rode that on public streets in Wisconsin I would probably be in jail , & they would impound the bike
It could happen “if” they know your an electric bicycle. Cops see me and think I’m a motorcycle
@@MrCentralDriver that's a problem too. They see it as a dirtbike on the road, or if saw as a motorcycle it needs VIN, reg insurance and a licence.
Either way problems.
I plan on getting one, I’m located in Madison wi. That’s why you hit a bike trail & ditch the cops. You could do the same on a Honda grom.
@@sk843v3rr Ya you guys have alot more bike trails and paths than we do in EC
Anybody see the donuts on the road smh🤣🤣
The smaller your smaller the chain ring the better it is for your motor because the motor likes to spin fast so the bigger the chain ring the harder the motor has to work I've changed the one on my electric bike from a 44 to a 36 for more torque and to to easier on my motor 😊
Sur ron the higher / bigger the sprocket is. The more torque you gain. If I go back to stock which is 42t on my supermoto wheels I’ll get better top end but less torque.
@@MrCentralDriver yes now I remember Sur-Ronster changing his Rear sprocket on his Sur-Ron
give me some surron i working
Give u what 😐
Hmmm looking at your sur Ron I am having doubts on upgrading me new super 73 RX Mojave :( know anyone looking to buy a new super 73 and a 5000w motor kit ? I am just going to buy a sur Ron :)
Depends on what type of riding you do . If more off-road get Sur Ron . I have a 72 volt SurRon and riden buddy’s 72 volt super 73RX fully charged it’s 8400 watts 100 amps . Super 73 is plenty fast topped out at 51 mph gps different is in off-road capability
@@SuperJj2468 I have the new RX and feel that is super slow . I need more torque and that’s why I bought the 72v motor kit but seen that the sur Ron has more toque stock . I am just going to sell everything and just use the sur Ron stock :/
@@retro93277 yes stock super 73 has no torque and top speed is like 31 mph. With 72 v battery and upgrade 5,000 watt motor super 73 has a lot of torque more then a stock SurRon and has a higher top speed then a stock SurRon as well. SurRon tops out stock around 43/44 mph on gps . All depends what type of riding you do. Now upgraded 72 volt SurRon is where the power is at 75 mph and a ton of torque but that’s will cost you another 3,000 dollars in upgrades
@@SuperJj2468 hmmm $3k a lot for a controller and battery . Maybe I should rethink this :)
@@retro93277 true about the same to upgrade your super 73 to 72 volts . Just the 5,000 watt motor Is 1000 dollars then you need 72 volt battery. This complete kit for super73 motor/battery/controller/enclosure is like 2700 dollars with tax then shipping . Like I said a 72 volt super 73 is faster in acceleration then a stock SurRon and has more top speed then a SurRon . All depends what your looking to do with bike
think bicycle...big sproket, you can pedal very easy. small sproket its harder...same applies to the stress on the motor...
I want to buy 30KW mid drive, 96V 70Ah bike.
That would be nice.
If top speed is 45 how are you going over 50
controller and custom battery to 72v
Less RPM probably better..
I agree
LMAO I need more time off of work I’ve been working 40hrs a week for three weeks 😂 I only get two days off a week 😆 Adulting sucks bro!
Yeah man 😤
I just want my bike to be able to keep up with traffic, i think its not safe when you're slower than everyone. I'd be happy with 40 and faster get up and go.
That seems fine until you realize your in the bike lane and traffic is bumper to bumper and you wanna turn left at the street ahead. You have to either slow all the way down and wait for all the traffic or use the bike lane at the intersection. I realized 60mph is perfect because you can cruise with traffic but also speed up to get around people. Plus people always go over the speed limit by 5mph always if not more
May be true out there in California, but i live in nebraska. No bike lanes here, bikes just ride with traffic and have to treat you as a vehicle. I wouldn't mind the capability of hitting 60 though but i ride on side streets so speed limit is mostly 35 or 40 on my routes.
@@hmschow hey im in omaha and have a sur ron. gold goggles, black helmet. see you out there ;)
Where does your bike work harder
From a stand still, or while it's already up to speed.
I'd say I think it's working it's hardest from a standstill (torque) burns up the motor not top speed.
I’d say top speed because it’s in the higher rpm on 3x it’s stock power. The lower end is real ruff on the components like the belt and chain.
larger sprocket= better gearing for top speed. Smaller sprocket = better for off the line, stop/go, low speed higher torque riding
That’s actually the opposite for our bikes. Smaller rear sprocket. Faster top end speed we have. Larger the rear sprocket the more torque we get.
@@MrCentralDriver No kidding? Learn something every day.
You got to the top of the hill to hit full throttle 😂 What your top speed on flat land? It look like 60mph.
me on flat ground different sprocket ua-cam.com/video/qyizkI-pdZM/v-deo.html
@@MrCentralDriver 😱 woah!
Wow this is dangerous. I would never do high speeds like this on a bike. One slip up and you are going to be grated meat.
Confidence the bike is not scary.
@@MrCentralDriver confidence or not, you can't control other drivers on the street. The fact is that motorcycles lack the safety features of a car. Hopefully nothing happens tho
@@fantasticalhistory4285 other drivers have nothing to do with how the bike performs and is operated.. you said “one slip up and..” implying that if the rider makes a mistake they are grated meat. So, again.. what do other drivers have to do with one’s abilities to operate the bike?
Sounds like your mom never let you ride anything with 2wheels.
The bike may be safe but your driving is crap!!
didn't hurt nobody
What mods do you use to go so fast?
Controller and battery
I’d like to get the same set up
@@daddychill619 also I think just swapping the battery to 72v already increases top speed, but controller upgrade adds much more torque and even higher top speed