The problem is Christian values are not unique. Every religion basically has the same teachings. There's no reason a Christian and a Muslim or a Pagan or a Jewish person cant pray together and be content.
I absolutely agree with Adrienne. As a Muslima, I hold the same values and am very happy to share the same with my husband. On another note, I love how A has evolved over the years and how she articulates her feelings 💞
@A J The values are very similar to the other two Abrahamic religions, but the practices do differ. We enjoy praying and fasting together, going to the mpsque as a family and so on
My dad was Muslim and my mom was Hindu but my siblings and I are all Christian lol. I wouldn’t date a non-Christian. It would be my first requirement for a potential partner. Even though I grew up in a multi-faith family so I know that it is possible and it works fine but it only works if religion is not important to the people involved, which it wasn’t for my mom and dad. My relationship with Christ is important to me so it has to be important to whoever I’m going to marry.
This is really interesting... Out of curiousity, since religion is most important to you, would u disapprove if your future kids (if u intend to have children) embrace other religions like Islam, Hinduism, etc? And if u do disapprove, would u like disown or just tolerate and possibly have bad relationships?
@@natdivaz5348 My children will be their own individuals. All I can do is teach them what I know and hope that what I teach them stays with them into adulthood. But once they reach the age of accountability, their walk with God will be an individual one and they will have to have an experience with Christ, just as all Christians do, and decide for themselves what they want to believe. I was blessed to grow up in a household where my father, as a Muslim man, taught me about all religions and encouraged me to think for myself and seek after my own truth. My children will be raised similarly. So, no, I wouldn’t disown my children, or let it affect our relationship if they chose to believe in a different religion. The choices they make are their own, just as mine were my own.
I bet it was suggested to her haha. It seems like their production team was really intent on seeing what the audience wanted these season lol. I’m here for it!
I think for me it’s more than just being a Christian but mostly about having a personal and devout relationship with God not just being sunday churchgoer
I love that topic. I'm with Adrienne. I appreciate that she clarified that religion and spirituality are different. The relationship with God is the most important. It's not easy. But in my opinion it's what matters the most in every situation in life....
The problem is, religion is very personal. Even two Christians may have contrasting beliefs. I believe in god, however I’m also supportive of the LGBTQ community, and I could never be with a person who would deny others love.
@@jking4973 You see I agree, that right there would be a problem-- because it's very easy to label yourself something but lets be specific. I am christian, I don't hate LGTBQ people at all but I am not a supporter of the movement at all, so If my "christian" partner is it'd be a problem because I'd assume she clearly doesn't read the word of God and is not leading a spirit lead life. Vice Versa to Muslim ect.
This a very good discussion to have, I’m a Muslim and it’s so important for me to be with someone of the same faith, same values, same goals in terms of believing in the afterlife because that affects how we choose to live. A couple that prays together is so beautiful to me
Spiritually and religion are very different and for me, I couldn’t be with someone who’s beliefs are different. It’s just based on how I was raised and what I choose for myself. And I love what Adrienne said. I feel the same way.
@@freedom4063 Adrienne and Israel are both Christian and her ex wasn’t. That’s who she was talking about her ex. He would make fun of her spiritual walk, Israel doesn’t.,
I’m loving the topics so far this season. I think coming back to the studio was a nice reset for everyone. And Jeannie’s really changing, and becoming more clear when she speaks now. I think her entering motherhood is empowering her on a new level. Also I’m really feeling Garcelle in the dynamic. This is going to be a great season.
I think it's about morals and compassion. I grew up with parents who had opposing views on religion and politics. It lead to some interesting dinner conversations, but it also taught me about being respectful of others, their opinions and beliefs while still staying true to your own moral compass. Both my parents had a good marriage, sadly both have now passed but I am grateful for their lesson on tolerance and respect.
I love how Adrienne says Israel covers her in prayer because that's really what I asked God for, somebody that can cover me in prayer and somebody that feel my prayers even when we are not together and vice versa.
Jeannie is correct. It's not just about what religion you are, it also depends on how devout you are. I'm a Christian but I'm not religious at all. I haven't been to church in a long time, I don't pray often and honestly I rarely have religious or spiritual thoughts in my day-to-day. I don't think I would be comfortable being in a relationship with someone who is super religious, TBQH.
@@simplypauline. I was baptized in a Catholic church. I'm not religious so I usually tell people I'm agnostic but I'm from a Catholic family. I sometimes do tell people I'm Catholic but I am a "bad one".
The guy I’m talking to is like you in a sense. He believed in God until he saw no change in his life and kind of walked away, meanwhile I am a devoted Christian on a daily basis and follow God with my entire heart. I know that in order for us to further dating, he would have to come around to be more of a Believer. But that would be his choice on his own time
@@simplypauline. No, I don't tell people that out of fear or pressure. It's kind of complicated to explain. I feel some kind of connection to Jesus/God. I wear a cross pendant everyday and my room does have a crucifix. Part of me believes but I still don't consider myself religious though.
Wow am so proud of Adrianne mentioning Jesus like that, always heard her saying she's a Christian but never heard her call the name like Tamera used too. Israel has a good faith impact on her. Glory to our Lord and I know God will honor their faith as a couple and give them a child together. Should you be Saved please pray for them too.
Lol please stop!! Christianity is the mainstream and acceptable religion in America. You're acting like it's underrepresented or highly discriminated against. Also, Jesus is an integral part of Christianity when she mentions being a Christian every 5 secs everyone is aware that she worships Jesus.
It's not about Israel, she has always been Christian but maybe she is freer since she is no longer fornicating. A has always held her creencia close to her heart though.
I will never be in a relationship with someone who has a different religion because if I’m with someone there has to be a future and if we can’t walk the same path there is no sense in pursuing that relationship!
I’m with Adrienne in the sense of not being able of marrying someone out of my religion , for me as a Muslim I don’t want to marry someone out of my religion because it will get very complicated specially with children , and I wanna add this just to clarify allah means god in Arabic Adrienne , and we do believe in Jesus as a prophet, anyways everyone is free to chose whatever religion they feel Comfortable in 🥰
@@damariowilson2350 John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word". God has no beginning and is eternal. "The Word was with God". Someone who is “with” another person cannot be the same as that other person. I know the KJV says "The Word was God". Other translations say "The Word was a god", "The Word was divine", The word was a divine being". But the other parts of the same verse will help you to come to the right conclusion. John 1:18 says no man has seen God at anytime and yet hundreds of people saw and touched Jesus when he was on earth. They are two separate entities. Jesus himself said the Father is greater than he is in John 14:28. They are not equal. Philippians 2:6 says that Jesus thought it inappropriate to be equal to God. Not to mention all the times Jesus prayed. So was he talking to himself? God doesn't pray. One of the most critical evidence is that Jesus died and God cannot die because he is from everlasting to everlasting. There are scriptures from Genesis to Revelation that refute the trinity doctrine. The ones @Jay mentioned are pretty good too.
I mean, this really comes down to respect. Whether you check the same religious box or not, you have to respect your partner and the things that are important to them. You don't have to share ALL the same beliefs, but you have to have mutual respect.
I'm a muslim and I agree with Adrienne 100%. I want to pray with my husband, I want to raise my children in the same faith and I want God to be at the center of our lives to guide us through the good and bad times.
I completely agree with Adrienne, I'm a muslim and I can't imagine myself married to a non muslim. I respect and love everyone with different beliefs and religions but for raising a family I definitely want someone that has the same religion as me.
@@jordanholloway5223 Thats what I was thinking…there are so many different types of Christians so you also have to keep in mind and talk about what you believe in specifically and how you want to live out your lives and potentially how you want to raise your children. I am dating a Christian and I too am a Christian Catholic and some things I believe in, he doesn’t necessarily believe in like saints etc even though they are in the Bible the way he interprets saints is different than I do…also some of the traditions I practice in church he doesn’t necessarily think are important. Neither person is wrong but we just have to talk about it and come to an agreement about where we want to go to church on Sundays and a lot of other things and that can get complicated especially if you throw kids into the mix…not impossible just more complicated.
Different religious beliefs can cause so much trouble in a relationship. People with different beliefs will defend and stand for their beliefs. Personally I couldn’t do it because I need to feel more secure in the relationship like Adrienne said.
I think one perfect example of this is with Married to Medicine Creator , EP & Star Mariah Huq & her husband Aydin… they’ve done a great job showcasing how s blended family especially with two different religious backgrounds and races come together and showcase how important it is to merge the cultures without making each other feel obligated to choose or feel as if either ur this or that or we can’t be together ! It’s beautiful
Do u think it's possible due to religions not considered the most important to them, so long relationships are well managed, religions comes in 2nd place? Kudos to the blended families, sure is very hard....
It's not a good example at all. Its just a good example for how in order for two people of different religions to be together, they must both be culturally religious and not really practicing. Aydin is not a practicing Muslim because if he was, he would have never married her.
@@agathachris9722 It is permissible for a Muslim man to marry a Christian or Jewish woman. Also, committing a sin does not mean someone is not a practicing Muslim. At the end of the day, only Allah can judge & decide on his piousness.
I’m really glad they talk about religion in these topics. I feel that a lot of talk shows run away from that but it can be a large part of someone’s identity and views.
They talk about a lot of things other shows run from. Let's be real people get offended really easily. People afraid they will say the wrong thing out their mouth.
Lmao I was thinking of Lenny the whole time 😂 Could've been Rob K too but definitely not her first boyfriend cause they attended the same church and he's even a Deacon now.
My mother said, “Think about how you want to raise your children.” As a Catholic and someone who wants to have children this has helped. Religion is one of the most important things when I think about my future spouse bc our morals need to align with the values we want to teach our children.
I had a totally opposite experience Adrienne ...my boyfriend's parents really dragged me through the mud and made me feel ashamed because I was an atheist...while I suppored him fully..😔
@@edithputhy4948 I don’t know, for me, I’d be fine with having a difference of religion as long as both sides have an understanding for the other person
I definitely think it's possible, however it literally depends on like Jeannie said, the relationship & also the respect both have for each other's religions.
1000% in agreement with Adrienne! Two people loving God, and putting him above each other first, is everything!! Prayer, worship, and relationship is everything! 🙏🏾
Yeah I grew up with Islam and always thought this. I don't feel the same way about the religion anymore lol but I still would like more perspective than just Chrisianity.
I dated somebody who was a Hebrew Israelite and he was constantly berating me and making me feel like I’m not worth anything. I’m a devout Christian and the way he made me feel about my faith was nothing short of small and insignificant. Now the man I’m with and will soon marry prays with me, prays for me and encourages me with the word of God.
This topic makes me think about how while the hosts are very diverse in their views, backgrounds and ethnicities, they are all religious (and Christian). Having an atheist perspective or someone from another religion or life philosophy on the panel would be very interesting! By the way, I love the show and the discussions they are having, so only love!❤❤
@@flamelily8486 I agree, some topics were hard to listen to when you are an agnostic or atheist. I would have loved to see some non-religious representation!
Agreed. I feel like they solely believe that everyone needs religion to guild them. It's worked for them, but they need to understand that not for everyone.
I am Christian and my partner of 5 years is Muslim and it’s been amazing to learn about his religion and take bits of pieces of it and apply it to my own life. He has never pushed his religion onto me but simply told me the beauty of it. I find myself now reading from both the Quran and the Bible and wow has it changed my life for the better! At the end of the day we both believe in God and have the same values and that’s all that matters to us! We do realize that religion could be a tool to separate people and we understand the bigger picture is God. He is my person and the religion we were born into wouldn’t stop us from loving each other! We have together built such a strong relationship with God. (also adding this in because there is misconceptions that Muslims don’t believe in Jesus but they very much do!! And Allah is just the Arabic translation for God)
I liked the little close, friendly interaction Loni and Jeannie had near the end of the video, when Jeannie indirectly told Loni that she’s read her memoir and paid close attention to the details as well. 😭🙌🏾😍👏🏾👯♀️
I'm agnostic and I think about that often! There are many annoying people in every religion and atheists as well. I certainly have been guilty in the past of being somewhat arrogant about my lack of belief and irreligiousness, but now religion and spirituality are fascinating to me and I totally get why people gravitate towards it. I think its fair that people want to date someone of their fate, but I've met interesting and highly intelligent people who are Jewish, Christian, Hindu, Muslim and faithless! I wouldn't mind dating someone religious or even participating in some of the rituals and I would NEVER mock them for it! There's something really beautiful and riveting in many of them! But I wouldn't want my own freedom of choice to be taken away because of someone else's faith and I'd prefer to raise my kids with an open mind so that they can join a religion or not when they're old enough to understand them. This is a very important discussion.
As adults who don’t want children that might fly but when kids come in the picture that’s when the battle can begin. ‘Equally yoked’ is a real thing, if you are passionate about your beliefs you want your offspring to carry your beliefs. The persons who subscribe to the ‘Spiritual not religious’ trend don’t seem to care as much though.
@@slaythedaywithvonnie8954 I’m not forcing anything I just said if you don’t know if you better get to know him. It’s up to you whether you want to have a relationship with your maker or not. I’m not here to judge or force anything god doesn’t even force himself on his creation so who am I to force him on you
I really needed to hear this from someone...dating someone from a different religion ain't easy But we have pulled through by respecting each others Beliefs
I am a Christian & my husband is a Muslim. We respect each other’s religion. We don’t have children together but our kids are free to choose whatever religion they feel connected to.
My husband is Muslim and I am Christian. It's was a struggle at first I didn't want to give up my religion and it was hard for him to understand but now we understand each other I respect his Islam religion and he respects my Christianity. We made it work because we love each other.
I don't care about "religion". It's a matter of principles. In fact, I wouldn't date religious people because they may have offensive opinions, so I'd rather date an atheist who loves his neighbor. Lol But if our faith is aligned, religion is the least of my concerns.
believing in "something higher that you keeps you accountable"?? as an atheist that always annoys me. I don't need to believe in a higher power to be accountable. I hold myself accountable because I have ethics and I want to be a good and honest person. I don't need to believe in a god to do that.
The hilarious thing is her husband is a cheater who had children with a woman outside of his marriage. Is that the high standards she upholds him to? I'm not an atheist but a lot of so called religion people act like they are holier than thou but are awful people.
Wow, if this question was asked in my 20's & 30's I would have said yes to being able to b in a relationship with someone of a different faith or maybe opened to the idea. But where I am in my life now that is a non-negotiable! We both must b of the Christian faith! Life is complicated enough to not b on the same page in terms of our faith being the foundation of our relationship! When times get tough, I need my mate to say we're not only praying through this thing but we're doing the necessary work to get through this storm together. "How can two walk together, unless they agree".
or at least someone younger. I'm starting to realize while I LOVE the ladies of the real. We need different views to make things interesting. I also felt this when they discussed about teaching about anal sex in sex ed class and not one of them thought of homosexual sex. We need maybe a LBGT host, a host that is not relegious or of different religion, a transgender host etc...
@@manikantasrao7868 Exactly. I thought it was weird they kept refering to anal sex as a "position". I think it's important to talk about it because that also promotes safe sex. I also agree that they need a diferent faith, an atheist. This conversation is too one sided.
@@melodyholt500 So you think keeping LGBTQ people uneducated is a solution? Because I hate to break it to you, if someone's not straight...they're not straight. Being ignorant about sexuality just breeds repression and ostracism.
So just wanted to add this comment with love: I’ve been thinking so much lately and exploring religions to find what works for me and my morals. (To add some context I wouldn’t say I’m Christian, but I was raised in a Christian household.) But something you lovely ladies spoke about was about humility and having a community and I love that ❤️
I have never had someone I can pray with and I think it would bring me a great sense of comfort. I grew up in a divided home and it was difficult having to navigate through both. Idk how my parents even stayed together lol
I always say I’m not “religious” and what people may mean by that are the theatrics of Christianity or the “traditions” of it. When people hear that they thinking of the judgement and there is a certain way that Christians should be and if you aren’t then something wrongs. I believe that at the end of the day the difference is the relationship you have with God. I always say I’m not religious I have relationship. Just an opinion, hope it makes sense.
That’s exactly how some many others feel! Like the way that Christians have a negative judgmental connotation to them, and the certain ideologies that people might group with being Christian or expectations are not the same for everyone, and how many interpret things in a linear way when it comes to God. God is love, and loves everyone!
And you're damn right. God hates religiousness. Religions were made by men - that's why there are so many: millions of different doctrines and traditions. I am not religious. I reject religion. I am a disciple of Jesus and him alone. I follow him.
Almost ALL Sierra Leoneans are bi-religious. It’s the one thing I love about my country. We are very religious tolerant and celebrate each other’s religion and support one another
@@indomie7 most of the country has inter-religious (Christian and Muslim) marriages. So most children grow up with parents of different religion, but we celebrate all equally
It’s definitely difficult, especially when you add kids to the mix. The kids are confused and don’t have a strong religous foundation. Most of the time one person downs down their religious to appease the other.
Come through Jeannie with the equally yolked even when you both believe in the same religion. Definitely hit it on the head. You can believe the same things on different levels, you want someone that is just as devoted
Then he's not really a believer. If he's a spiritualist however, that's different. There is a more open approach. However if he claimed to be part of a particular religion, then that's impossible.
@@agathachris9722 why would that be impossible? There are plenty of relationships like that. Are u saying that in order to be a believer you have to also force your faith on your children and not let them choose for themselves???
Your husband is not a Christian then. 2 Corinthians 6:14 is clear as day not to be yoked with unbelievers. "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?".
It's important to me. I couldn't be with someone who isn't Christian. Not knocking anyone who is open to dating or marrying someone with different beliefs. I have a friend who ministers and married someone agnostic and they're completely happy. It's just not the path I want for myself.
Well, as an atheist I have to say it is hard for me to be with someone who has religious beliefs. My Dad is Catholic and always taught us kids that religion is something private even between family members. So if the person I was dating was religious but kept it private, I wouldn't mind. And to what Garcelle was saying, I find it interesting because I don't need a higher power to keep me responsible, I do it out of love for humanity, the planet and every living being on it. Just because I want to. And it makes me happy to see others safe and happy.
@@FallenXSeraph Yes. To be honest, I find it strange that some people say they need someone else or a higher power to keep them responsible. Makes me wonder what they would do if they didn't have that.
But what about an atheist who doesn't love humanity and the planet like you? Or even, with the same strength as you? That's the thing--with an atheist, you're not sure what you're getting. You're not sure what grounds them, because there is no defined standard of morality. They often have different, and changing, concepts of what is good and bad and why it is good or bad.
My husband is Christian and I am Muslim … we tend to focus on the similarities rather than the differences in religion and we still pray together, read the Bible and Quran …. It’s about the relationship with God and we make it work just like any marriage
I’m totally ok with having different beliefs. I’m Christian, my boyfriend is not religious. But to me, that’s ok because he respects my religion and prays with me when I need it. For me it is all about respect. That means more to me
It’s so strange! Since the beginning of the real. I’ve always wholeheartedly agreed with everything Adrienne says 🤣 like she says what I’m already thinking word for word.. I’m her! 🙈
Nah is deal breaker. As a Muslim I would want my spouse to be Muslim too and a practicing one at that. Is hard to raise kids with two beliefs is confusing and conflicting. Plus one person can lead you out your religion if they have a different religion
I'm agnostic. I always make it a point in dating to have an open and honest convo about religion because I hear men saying one thing but living a different way. I have been on dates with self-proclaimed devout christians who after a convo will say that they align more with my beliefs. I think many people are torn when it comes to religion but aren't saying it nor exploring it deeper. Its very important in marriages and especially when raising children.
It's not the same though. Muslims believe that Jesus was a mere prophet while Jesus Christ is the core of the Christian religion. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. No man cometh unto the father but through him. Is that what Muslims believe?
@@favour3319 Jesus never made something called Christianity, people did. Jesus had a duty to teach people, he didn't want to be worshipped. That's on period!
Personally, I will never be in another relationship with someone of a different religion. I’ve done it twice (before I fully started living for God) Once in my teens, another time in my early 20s & it’s all fun in the beginning but then something changes and it eventually becomes a problem. I’m a believer of Jesus Christ, I am Christian, I’m not “religious” I have a beautiful relationship with God. Yes I pray whenever I feel like it because talking to God should be like you’re talking to your friend lol. And Just like Adrienne mentioned, I love church & I go to church as well (but I also have church in my home because Gods spirit is everyone) & need a partner that fully believes in the same things because when you don’t it can be a disaster which for me in those two relationships they were (for reference one was Atheist the other was Muslim) and if/when I ever get married I need my husband to be able to cover me in prayer and I will do the same for him…and we will be raising our family with the same faith/values. Otherwise there’s a high possibility it won’t work
@Anna crystal Of course, just like in Christianity and Judaism you can't marry outside the faith but that's okay. The bias, micro aggression and hypocritical judgment is only reserved for Islam, right. Typical
I absolutely agree!!! The guy I’m talking to, believed in God until he saw no change in his life and kind of walked away, meanwhile I am a devoted Christian on a daily basis and follow God with my entire heart. I know that in order for us to further dating, he would have to come around to be more of a Believer. But that would be his choice on his own time
I am with Adrienne ! I have dated men outside my Christian belief for the most part they have been friendly toward my faith and let me practice and have been respectful edema though they hold no religious belief , yet I would prefer someone who has the same belief because it helps both our faith grow and make the relationship more stronger and stable .
For me it's more about the spiritual relationship with a higher power than a specific religion and traditions. The values created through the person's spirituality and/or religion, in addition with open mindedness, are most important. There is a common truth in the world's great religions, so as long as we both belive in this truth, the details of HOW we honor this truth are not that important.
I’m 27 I’m a Christian and my boyfriend of 8 years became a Hebrew Israelite which ultimately prevented us from getting married. Religion is very important in a relationship
I am still hoping to be blessed with a God fearing man. It is important to me because like Adrienne I have dated men of different religion and It never worked because of our believes
I never really thought much about it until my husband and I got married. We both grew up in catholic school and most kids who went to private school are very “blah” about it. We appreciate our faith but we’re not passionate about it. We knew we wanted to get married in church bc it felt natural to us. Also, it didn’t hit me until we had to go to a required retreat. We both grew up that way in grade school and high school and it was nice having someone who knows and just “got it”.
I’m not religious, but spiritual and my bf he believes in a higher power which is fine, we respect each other’s beliefs which is really what’s important.
It's conversations like this that makes me realize they really need an atheist on the panel. The accountability comment was a little insulting. The bible is not where morals were invented or the only place to learn about them.
Thank you! As an Atheist, I find my atheist folks to be a little more accountable because they don't have anything to fall back on. I hated that remark.
100% agree. The show has always been quite good with having women of different backgrounds and experiences, but they've never had someone who's an athiest/doesn't believe in a higher power.
I think the most important thing is how devout you are, your core beliefs, and how you incorporate those beliefs into your life. I’m not religious, but personally believe that there is something out there. I dated a Muslim guy and obviously I wanted to learn more about Islam and his traditions in his home country. We got on the topics of our personal beliefs and he was telling me about how they sacrifice goats on Eid and I cringed because I don’t like that idea, but respect it and would ever speak down upon it at all. He asked me why I cringed, I literally said “I just don’t like the visual of that. I understand and respect that it is your religion, so keep doing it, but I would never want to be there when it happens” then he called me a stupid white girl and said “you don’t get it”! Obviously I was very offended because I said I want to hear about why you do it and know significance of it, I would just not like the be there when it happens or see the goat before hand if we were to ever celebrate like that! He had a deeper issue with me not being Muslim in my opinion 🤷🏼♀️
@@Angieibrahim777 i know that, that’s why I respect it and would never have told him not to do it, but still don’t want to be a part of the killing. I don’t eat meat partly because I believe if you wouldn’t kill it with your bare hands then you don’t have the right to eat it 🤷🏼♀️.
my religion is the foundation of my faith and the foundation of my values, therefore i need somebody that i’m on same page with. i’m not sacrificing my salvation for anybody.
As an agnostic-atheist this is important for me. I don't desire to be with a person who is religious, "spiritual" or a believer. A challenge as a black person but oh well. And if I were to become a parent I wouldn't want to have to go back and forth about raising children without a religious practice. These conversations are always so one note on programming marketed to black & POC folks. There is rarely a non-religious perspective nevermind agnostic-atheist one.
I have a question for you. Since you don't believe in a higher power, what is the meaning to life? Why are we here? (Just want to hear an atheist perspective)
@@shannon281 as an atheist I can say I don't know and I don't need to know. Humans' obsession and need to explain everything in the world leads to so many theories. We're here, we die and the world goes on until it doesn't anymore. That's it. I don't feel the need to know how the world started or why we're here, we just are. But I understand not having a purpose can send some people into an existential crisis.
@@reybae That's great that you don't care. Makes life very simple. However, I'd be worried if humans were not curious about anything at all. Imagine if scientists didn't think about breathing. Why do we breathe? We never would have discovered oxygen. Or other planets. And medicine. Maybe that innate curiousity is a good thing. The Bible says that curiosity and conscience was put there by God to remind us that He exists. Good thing majority of people believe in a higher power and want to expand their minds; or else we would all be doomed.
@@shannon281 that's all well and good that you're curious I never said it was a bad thing. But it has lead to many erroneous theories. It's kind of ironic that you speak about curiosity and open mindedness when religious people tend to be some of the most close minded people out there. Many of them don't agree with all of the science that you're mentioning now and accuse scientists of playing God. But I guess the curiosity of science is good conveniently. They tend to be so close minded that they can't even accept people who don't believe in religion 🥴 not everyone is the same. And at the end of the day your belief is no more right than mine and that's what a lot of religious people need to accept. Get over it.
@@shannon281 and it doesn't make life very simple actually. My life is exactly the same as it was 8 years ago when I stopped believing lol no better no worse...the same. It's simply another perspective on life. Don't let it bother you too much lol
Another vital discussion. The Real is so necessary. Thanks Ladies! I want nothing to do with a man who doesn't know and have a deep relationship with The Lord. I don't poo on other people's religions; believe what and how you want to believe (or not); I respect your privacy. For me, I love and serve Jesus! And the man who would be my husband will be the Pastor of the home. That means, as his wife, I come under him (spiritually speaking). I'm not about to submit to and spiritually come under a man who himself doesn't submit to God. Be equally yoked or nothing.
Im with Adrienne a 100% knowing I can pray with my husband and knowing we have the same values. For sure
It’s the best feeling.
Agree.
The problem is Christian values are not unique. Every religion basically has the same teachings. There's no reason a Christian and a Muslim or a Pagan or a Jewish person cant pray together and be content.
@@Prince_the_One Don’t even bother with these people.
Given that her husband is an adulterer I'm not sure they have the same values.
I absolutely agree with Adrienne. As a Muslima, I hold the same values and am very happy to share the same with my husband. On another note, I love how A has evolved over the years and how she articulates her feelings 💞
Yeees A has evolved. I love her more
My entire life and my most enjoyable convos revolve around Islam, totally agree ukhti
@Lady D Muhammad ﷺ did not create the world, nor do I worship him. He was a Prophet who called to monotheism like Jesus peace be upon him.
@A J The values are very similar to the other two Abrahamic religions, but the practices do differ. We enjoy praying and fasting together, going to the mpsque as a family and so on
thats because they are getting old now
My dad was Muslim and my mom was Hindu but my siblings and I are all Christian lol. I wouldn’t date a non-Christian. It would be my first requirement for a potential partner. Even though I grew up in a multi-faith family so I know that it is possible and it works fine but it only works if religion is not important to the people involved, which it wasn’t for my mom and dad. My relationship with Christ is important to me so it has to be important to whoever I’m going to marry.
This is really interesting... Out of curiousity, since religion is most important to you, would u disapprove if your future kids (if u intend to have children) embrace other religions like Islam, Hinduism, etc? And if u do disapprove, would u like disown or just tolerate and possibly have bad relationships?
@@natdivaz5348 My children will be their own individuals. All I can do is teach them what I know and hope that what I teach them stays with them into adulthood. But once they reach the age of accountability, their walk with God will be an individual one and they will have to have an experience with Christ, just as all Christians do, and decide for themselves what they want to believe. I was blessed to grow up in a household where my father, as a Muslim man, taught me about all religions and encouraged me to think for myself and seek after my own truth. My children will be raised similarly. So, no, I wouldn’t disown my children, or let it affect our relationship if they chose to believe in a different religion. The choices they make are their own, just as mine were my own.
Interesting I am Muslim with Muslim family but we ain't religious at all which is so bad 💀💀
@@aena5995 it's okay it's not late.
@@aena5995 shhh the haram police might be listening
Loni coming through with the stories this season, love that she’s opening up more.
I bet it was suggested to her haha. It seems like their production team was really intent on seeing what the audience wanted these season lol. I’m here for it!
she comes up with most of her stories lmao
I think for me it’s more than just being a Christian but mostly about having a personal and devout relationship with God not just being sunday churchgoer
Amen
I agree, so many people say their Christian yet don't know God at all and have no relationship with him or obey the word
You are exactly right! 💯
that part
Preach it🙌🏽
I love that topic. I'm with Adrienne. I appreciate that she clarified that religion and spirituality are different. The relationship with God is the most important. It's not easy. But in my opinion it's what matters the most in every situation in life....
The problem is, religion is very personal. Even two Christians may have contrasting beliefs. I believe in god, however I’m also supportive of the LGBTQ community, and I could never be with a person who would deny others love.
@@jking4973 so true!
@@jking4973 You see I agree, that right there would be a problem-- because it's very easy to label yourself something but lets be specific. I am christian, I don't hate LGTBQ people at all but I am not a supporter of the movement at all, so If my "christian" partner is it'd be a problem because I'd assume she clearly doesn't read the word of God and is not leading a spirit lead life. Vice Versa to Muslim ect.
This a very good discussion to have, I’m a Muslim and it’s so important for me to be with someone of the same faith, same values, same goals in terms of believing in the afterlife because that affects how we choose to live. A couple that prays together is so beautiful to me
❤❤🙌🙌🙌amen to that
Muslim women are not allowed to marry non muslim anyway. Only the muslim man can.
I'm a Christian, and I agree with her too. My bible says God is not the Arthur of confusion, but of peace. And that can cause confusion ❤❤❤❤❤
praying together is the honeymoon phase. wait when she is 10 years older and has some lines.
yeah, that's why I as an atheist could never date a religious person
Spiritually and religion are very different and for me, I couldn’t be with someone who’s beliefs are different. It’s just based on how I was raised and what I choose for myself. And I love what Adrienne said. I feel the same way.
I agree.. I don't see them lasting FOREVER
What u believe in boo
@@freedom4063 Adrienne and Israel are both Christian and her ex wasn’t. That’s who she was talking about her ex. He would make fun of her spiritual walk, Israel doesn’t.,
@@blueblackyellow I believe in God and Jesus
well both are superstition
I’m loving the topics so far this season. I think coming back to the studio was a nice reset for everyone. And Jeannie’s really changing, and becoming more clear when she speaks now. I think her entering motherhood is empowering her on a new level. Also I’m really feeling Garcelle in the dynamic. This is going to be a great season.
@pinkroses that's... kind of sad :( but i'm glad she's happy now
I think it's about morals and compassion. I grew up with parents who had opposing views on religion and politics. It lead to some interesting dinner conversations, but it also taught me about being respectful of others, their opinions and beliefs while still staying true to your own moral compass.
Both my parents had a good marriage, sadly both have now passed but I am grateful for their lesson on tolerance and respect.
Sounds so sweet. Did your parents stay together?
Did they stay together?
I love how Adrienne says Israel covers her in prayer because that's really what I asked God for, somebody that can cover me in prayer and somebody that feel my prayers even when we are not together and vice versa.
Yasss!
Sorta like someone covering a co-worker shift, when you can't a certain day.
@@TRINI818 exactly ,never thought about it like that. One thing for sure is that this coworker covers you happily and non grudgingly
It’s so beautiful.
Jeannie is correct. It's not just about what religion you are, it also depends on how devout you are. I'm a Christian but I'm not religious at all. I haven't been to church in a long time, I don't pray often and honestly I rarely have religious or spiritual thoughts in my day-to-day. I don't think I would be comfortable being in a relationship with someone who is super religious, TBQH.
@@simplypauline. I was baptized in a Catholic church. I'm not religious so I usually tell people I'm agnostic but I'm from a
Catholic family. I sometimes do tell people I'm Catholic but I am a "bad one".
@@simplypauline. appreciate this question being asked respectfully
@@simplypauline. what do u mean when u say Christianity is a religion in itself?
The guy I’m talking to is like you in a sense. He believed in God until he saw no change in his life and kind of walked away, meanwhile I am a devoted Christian on a daily basis and follow God with my entire heart. I know that in order for us to further dating, he would have to come around to be more of a Believer. But that would be his choice on his own time
@@simplypauline. No, I don't tell people that out of fear or pressure. It's kind of complicated to explain. I feel some kind of connection to Jesus/God. I wear a cross pendant everyday and my room does have a crucifix. Part of me believes but I still don't consider myself religious though.
Wow am so proud of Adrianne mentioning Jesus like that, always heard her saying she's a Christian but never heard her call the name like Tamera used too. Israel has a good faith impact on her. Glory to our Lord and I know God will honor their faith as a couple and give them a child together. Should you be Saved please pray for them too.
I’ve heard Adrienne say Jesus countless times on the show lol
I've literally heard her use the phrase "covered in prayer" before, so what show have you been watching for years?
She’s always said Jesus lol.
Lol please stop!! Christianity is the mainstream and acceptable religion in America. You're acting like it's underrepresented or highly discriminated against. Also, Jesus is an integral part of Christianity when she mentions being a Christian every 5 secs everyone is aware that she worships Jesus.
It's not about Israel, she has always been Christian but maybe she is freer since she is no longer fornicating. A has always held her creencia close to her heart though.
I will never be in a relationship with someone who has a different religion because if I’m with someone there has to be a future and if we can’t walk the same path there is no sense in pursuing that relationship!
Perioddddddd
Facts!!
Exactly but I was already in a relationship before he converted and now I’m confused cuz l love him but not his religion
I’m with Adrienne in the sense of not being able of marrying someone out of my religion , for me as a Muslim I don’t want to marry someone out of my religion because it will get very complicated specially with children , and I wanna add this just to clarify allah means god in Arabic Adrienne , and we do believe in Jesus as a prophet, anyways everyone is free to chose whatever religion they feel Comfortable in 🥰
In Adrienne view he his the Son of God, and equal with God the Father more than a mere prophet.
With all due respect it's not the same though. Christians believe that Jesus is God not just a prophet.
I'm Christian and I believe Jesus is the son of God and not God himself because the Bible doesn't actually teach that.
@@ivorenesmith9003 yeah u need a new bible then... moreover read John Gospel 1:1-14 & Philippians 2:5-11... BEWARE ‼️ 2Corinthians 11:1-4
@@damariowilson2350 John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word". God has no beginning and is eternal. "The Word was with God". Someone who is “with” another person cannot be the same as that other person. I know the KJV says "The Word was God". Other translations say "The Word was a god", "The Word was divine", The word was a divine being". But the other parts of the same verse will help you to come to the right conclusion. John 1:18 says no man has seen God at anytime and yet hundreds of people saw and touched Jesus when he was on earth. They are two separate entities. Jesus himself said the Father is greater than he is in John 14:28. They are not equal. Philippians 2:6 says that Jesus thought it inappropriate to be equal to God. Not to mention all the times Jesus prayed. So was he talking to himself? God doesn't pray. One of the most critical evidence is that Jesus died and God cannot die because he is from everlasting to everlasting. There are scriptures from Genesis to Revelation that refute the trinity doctrine. The ones @Jay mentioned are pretty good too.
I mean, this really comes down to respect. Whether you check the same religious box or not, you have to respect your partner and the things that are important to them. You don't have to share ALL the same beliefs, but you have to have mutual respect.
I'm a muslim and I agree with Adrienne 100%. I want to pray with my husband, I want to raise my children in the same faith and I want God to be at the center of our lives to guide us through the good and bad times.
Adrienne's story shows how much Israel and her are meant to be💗
I completely agree with Adrienne, I'm a muslim and I can't imagine myself married to a non muslim. I respect and love everyone with different beliefs and religions but for raising a family I definitely want someone that has the same religion as me.
As a muslim we know praying 5 times a day is such a relief and it fules my soul soo much.
Indeed. Alhamdulilah
It's a deal breaker for us Christian's . Do not be unequally yoked!
Amen!!! Also it is written for us believers of Jesus Christ can two walk together except they agree.
You realize there are over 3000 different denominations with different interpretations of scriptures.
@@jordanholloway5223 Thats what I was thinking…there are so many different types of Christians so you also have to keep in mind and talk about what you believe in specifically and how you want to live out your lives and potentially how you want to raise your children. I am dating a Christian and I too am a Christian Catholic and some things I believe in, he doesn’t necessarily believe in like saints etc even though they are in the Bible the way he interprets saints is different than I do…also some of the traditions I practice in church he doesn’t necessarily think are important. Neither person is wrong but we just have to talk about it and come to an agreement about where we want to go to church on Sundays and a lot of other things and that can get complicated especially if you throw kids into the mix…not impossible just more complicated.
@@cechernandez i like your take on this! Thanks for sharing.
No mention of Catholics vs Protestants? A friend of mine was literally called a pope worshiper by her date who was southern baptist.
Different religious beliefs can cause so much trouble in a relationship. People with different beliefs will defend and stand for their beliefs. Personally I couldn’t do it because I need to feel more secure in the relationship like Adrienne said.
I think one perfect example of this is with Married to Medicine Creator , EP & Star Mariah Huq & her husband Aydin… they’ve done a great job showcasing how s blended family especially with two different religious backgrounds and races come together and showcase how important it is to merge the cultures without making each other feel obligated to choose or feel as if either ur this or that or we can’t be together ! It’s beautiful
That is exactly who I thought of as well!!!
Do u think it's possible due to religions not considered the most important to them, so long relationships are well managed, religions comes in 2nd place? Kudos to the blended families, sure is very hard....
I don't believe Mariah or Aydin are that religious in the first place so it would work for them. Most devout couples it would not.
It's not a good example at all. Its just a good example for how in order for two people of different religions to be together, they must both be culturally religious and not really practicing. Aydin is not a practicing Muslim because if he was, he would have never married her.
@@agathachris9722 It is permissible for a Muslim man to marry a Christian or Jewish woman. Also, committing a sin does not mean someone is not a practicing Muslim. At the end of the day, only Allah can judge & decide on his piousness.
I'm Christian and my belief says we should not be unequally yoked, meaning our beliefs, goals and values should align.
Most definitely!
As a lady of faith in Christ Jesus, I take the "unequally yoked" scriptural instruction very seriously.
I’m really glad they talk about religion in these topics. I feel that a lot of talk shows run away from that but it can be a large part of someone’s identity and views.
They talk about a lot of things other shows run from. Let's be real people get offended really easily. People afraid they will say the wrong thing out their mouth.
Aww I felt bad for Adrienne when she said she was laughed at for going to church. Was this Leny?
Lmao I was thinking of Lenny the whole time 😂 Could've been Rob K too but definitely not her first boyfriend cause they attended the same church and he's even a Deacon now.
It’s funny how we know a lot of their business and trying to figure out who it was 😂😂😂
@@omphilemoerane2569 yup, definitely not Erin Flores
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I feel like it was Rob. He was pretty immature. Lenny seems too old to be laughing at that.
@@yonce2347 from little things she’s said here and there, Lenny was older but didn’t seem to be all that mature about certain things.
I agree with Adrienne I couldn't. But anyone can do what they want. We all have our lives & choices💯
My mother said, “Think about how you want to raise your children.” As a Catholic and someone who wants to have children this has helped. Religion is one of the most important things when I think about my future spouse bc our morals need to align with the values we want to teach our children.
I had a totally opposite experience Adrienne ...my boyfriend's parents really dragged me through the mud and made me feel ashamed because I was an atheist...while I suppored him fully..😔
I'm sorry Maria
It was your boyfriend 's duty to protect you, if he didn't then good riddance.
I think I'd rather die alone than date a Christian or any religious person for that matter
@@edithputhy4948 same
@@edithputhy4948 I don’t know, for me, I’d be fine with having a difference of religion as long as both sides have an understanding for the other person
I definitely think it's possible, however it literally depends on like Jeannie said, the relationship & also the respect both have for each other's religions.
1000% in agreement with Adrienne! Two people loving God, and putting him above each other first, is everything!! Prayer, worship, and relationship is everything! 🙏🏾
I really hope one day there could be an arab/muslim co host too! Cause sometimes I'm like...... we are the forgotten
Yeah I grew up with Islam and always thought this. I don't feel the same way about the religion anymore lol but I still would like more perspective than just Chrisianity.
Yes!
Same !
They don't have to be Arab as long as they are muslim I am happy, whether thats south Asian, Arab, African, Malaysian I don't care.
It doesn’t have to be Arab/ Muslim just Muslim
I dated somebody who was a Hebrew Israelite and he was constantly berating me and making me feel like I’m not worth anything. I’m a devout Christian and the way he made me feel about my faith was nothing short of small and insignificant. Now the man I’m with and will soon marry prays with me, prays for me and encourages me with the word of God.
Good job Adrienne stand on your faith I like that!!!!
This topic makes me think about how while the hosts are very diverse in their views, backgrounds and ethnicities, they are all religious (and Christian). Having an atheist perspective or someone from another religion or life philosophy on the panel would be very interesting! By the way, I love the show and the discussions they are having, so only love!❤❤
Totally agree! Often it feels like they assume everyone is Christian in their discussion. Totally need a non-religious perspective on the panel.
I agree. I went from Christian to Agnostic. I actually stopped watching the show because when it comes to religion the opinions aren't diverse.
@@flamelily8486 I agree, some topics were hard to listen to when you are an agnostic or atheist. I would have loved to see some non-religious representation!
Agreed. I feel like they solely believe that everyone needs religion to guild them. It's worked for them, but they need to understand that not for everyone.
Loni isn't religious. Are you sure she's actually a Christian?
I am Christian and my partner of 5 years is Muslim and it’s been amazing to learn about his religion and take bits of pieces of it and apply it to my own life. He has never pushed his religion onto me but simply told me the beauty of it. I find myself now reading from both the Quran and the Bible and wow has it changed my life for the better! At the end of the day we both believe in God and have the same values and that’s all that matters to us! We do realize that religion could be a tool to separate people and we understand the bigger picture is God. He is my person and the religion we were born into wouldn’t stop us from loving each other! We have together built such a strong relationship with God. (also adding this in because there is misconceptions that Muslims don’t believe in Jesus but they very much do!! And Allah is just the Arabic translation for God)
Muslims reject Jesus' divinity which is the whole thing on what Christianity is based on.
My family are Christians and my brother married a Muslim and he converted to Muslim. And they have a happy relationship with all depends on the people
Great!
converted to Islam*
@@lindajohnson2419 no not great. He just disowned our ✝ faith
@@freedom4063 he's a Muslim now so it's great 👍🏽
I liked the little close, friendly interaction Loni and Jeannie had near the end of the video, when Jeannie indirectly told Loni that she’s read her memoir and paid close attention to the details as well. 😭🙌🏾😍👏🏾👯♀️
I'm agnostic and I think about that often! There are many annoying people in every religion and atheists as well. I certainly have been guilty in the past of being somewhat arrogant about my lack of belief and irreligiousness, but now religion and spirituality are fascinating to me and I totally get why people gravitate towards it. I think its fair that people want to date someone of their fate, but I've met interesting and highly intelligent people who are Jewish, Christian, Hindu, Muslim and faithless! I wouldn't mind dating someone religious or even participating in some of the rituals and I would NEVER mock them for it! There's something really beautiful and riveting in many of them! But I wouldn't want my own freedom of choice to be taken away because of someone else's faith and I'd prefer to raise my kids with an open mind so that they can join a religion or not when they're old enough to understand them. This is a very important discussion.
I also agree to it
As adults who don’t want children that might fly but when kids come in the picture that’s when the battle can begin. ‘Equally yoked’ is a real thing, if you are passionate about your beliefs you want your offspring to carry your beliefs. The persons who subscribe to the ‘Spiritual not religious’ trend don’t seem to care as much though.
As a person who doesn’t really believe, I cannot date someone who heavily believes in church and mentions God all day. That’s just me. 🤷🏾♀️
If you don’t know god you better get to know him
Same!
@@Nnnnnnnn426 I didn't ask you that. This is exactly why I can't date someone who does believe. 🤣 Don't force your beliefs on someone else.
@@slaythedaywithvonnie8954 I’m not forcing anything I just said if you don’t know if you better get to know him. It’s up to you whether you want to have a relationship with your maker or not. I’m not here to judge or force anything god doesn’t even force himself on his creation so who am I to force him on you
@pinkroses a threat? 😂 Ok…..
I really needed to hear this from someone...dating someone from a different religion ain't easy But we have pulled through by respecting each others Beliefs
That’s a good thing! The problem it’s no respect 💯! It’s either you are with and my beliefs or you dead weight 🤷🏾♂️
I am a Christian & my husband is a Muslim. We respect each other’s religion. We don’t have children together but our kids are free to choose whatever religion they feel connected to.
How did y’all come to this conclusion? Are you both very religious?
My husband is Muslim and I am Christian. It's was a struggle at first I didn't want to give up my religion and it was hard for him to understand but now we understand each other I respect his Islam religion and he respects my Christianity. We made it work because we love each other.
Idk how yall do it ... i feel like an ass hole rn
I don't care about "religion". It's a matter of principles. In fact, I wouldn't date religious people because they may have offensive opinions, so I'd rather date an atheist who loves his neighbor. Lol
But if our faith is aligned, religion is the least of my concerns.
I get exactly what you're saying. Jesus wasn't even Christian.
Same my boyfriend is an atheist. I’m not religious myself
believing in "something higher that you keeps you accountable"?? as an atheist that always annoys me. I don't need to believe in a higher power to be accountable. I hold myself accountable because I have ethics and I want to be a good and honest person. I don't need to believe in a god to do that.
Fellow atheist here and I was a little offended by that too haha.
The hilarious thing is her husband is a cheater who had children with a woman outside of his marriage. Is that the high standards she upholds him to? I'm not an atheist but a lot of so called religion people act like they are holier than thou but are awful people.
@@fizzybizzy3790 they got divorced so clearly she doesn’t
@Queen queen exactly! does that mean it's only their worry of eternal damnation that stops them from being awful people? lol
So you've never told a lie before?
This is how you respectfully have different opinions without tearing someone down.. other talk shows should take notes.
I’m DEADDD loni’s ex was in a cult 🤣
All religions are cults in a way. lol
All religions are cults. I find them terrifying, so as soon as I find out someone is religious I run for my life.
That’s true.. if you look up the definition of cult, it’s still a religion lol.
Aren’t they all philosophical beliefs?
😂😂😂
I subscribed just to follow Jeannie's pregnancy journey. I am so overjoyed for her.
Wow, if this question was asked in my 20's & 30's I would have said yes to being able to b in a relationship with someone of a different faith or maybe opened to the idea. But where I am in my life now that is a non-negotiable! We both must b of the Christian faith! Life is complicated enough to not b on the same page in terms of our faith being the foundation of our relationship! When times get tough, I need my mate to say we're not only praying through this thing but we're doing the necessary work to get through this storm together. "How can two walk together, unless they agree".
YES! Agree so much. Can’t afford to be out here unequally yoked
The conversation would be more interesting if one host would be an atheist or would actually practice a different religion
or at least someone younger. I'm starting to realize while I LOVE the ladies of the real. We need different views to make things interesting.
I also felt this when they discussed about teaching about anal sex in sex ed class and not one of them thought of homosexual sex.
We need maybe a LBGT host, a host that is not relegious or of different religion, a transgender host etc...
@@manikantasrao7868 nah we good. We not gonna make the world more gayer than it already is
@@manikantasrao7868 Exactly. I thought it was weird they kept refering to anal sex as a "position". I think it's important to talk about it because that also promotes safe sex. I also agree that they need a diferent faith, an atheist. This conversation is too one sided.
@@melodyholt500 😐
@@melodyholt500 So you think keeping LGBTQ people uneducated is a solution? Because I hate to break it to you, if someone's not straight...they're not straight. Being ignorant about sexuality just breeds repression and ostracism.
Adrienne articulated herself so well here. 🤎
So just wanted to add this comment with love:
I’ve been thinking so much lately and exploring religions to find what works for me and my morals. (To add some context I wouldn’t say I’m Christian, but I was raised in a Christian household.) But something you lovely ladies spoke about was about humility and having a community and I love that ❤️
I have never had someone I can pray with and I think it would bring me a great sense of comfort. I grew up in a divided home and it was difficult having to navigate through both. Idk how my parents even stayed together lol
I love these conversations. Continue ladies.
I always say I’m not “religious” and what people may mean by that are the theatrics of Christianity or the “traditions” of it. When people hear that they thinking of the judgement and there is a certain way that Christians should be and if you aren’t then something wrongs. I believe that at the end of the day the difference is the relationship you have with God. I always say I’m not religious I have relationship. Just an opinion, hope it makes sense.
That’s exactly how I feel!!
That’s exactly how some many others feel! Like the way that Christians have a negative judgmental connotation to them, and the certain ideologies that people might group with being Christian or expectations are not the same for everyone, and how many interpret things in a linear way when it comes to God. God is love, and loves everyone!
And you're damn right. God hates religiousness. Religions were made by men - that's why there are so many: millions of different doctrines and traditions.
I am not religious. I reject religion. I am a disciple of Jesus and him alone. I follow him.
Absolutely agree!
Some of you sound like you care too much what people think about Christians rather than you're own feelings about it.
The topics are good this season.
They feel fresh.
Almost ALL Sierra Leoneans are bi-religious. It’s the one thing I love about my country. We are very religious tolerant and celebrate each other’s religion and support one another
Sorry what does bi religious mean? like mixed faiths relationships?
@@indomie7 most of the country has inter-religious (Christian and Muslim) marriages. So most children grow up with parents of different religion, but we celebrate all equally
Yeah we do
@@SaloneSweetest oh okay thank you for explaining :)
It’s definitely difficult, especially when you add kids to the mix. The kids are confused and don’t have a strong religous foundation.
Most of the time one person downs down their religious to appease the other.
Come through Jeannie with the equally yolked even when you both believe in the same religion. Definitely hit it on the head. You can believe the same things on different levels, you want someone that is just as devoted
I am not a believer but my husband is and I fully support and respect that. We’ve agreed to show but options to our kids and it’s worked great so far
Then he's not really a believer. If he's a spiritualist however, that's different. There is a more open approach. However if he claimed to be part of a particular religion, then that's impossible.
@@agathachris9722 My goodness. Who do you think you are??
@@agathachris9722 why would that be impossible? There are plenty of relationships like that. Are u saying that in order to be a believer you have to also force your faith on your children and not let them choose for themselves???
Your husband is not a Christian then. 2 Corinthians 6:14 is clear as day not to be yoked with unbelievers. "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?".
@@BornTigerr 2 Corinthians 6:14 tells us not to be yoked with non believers.
It's important to me. I couldn't be with someone who isn't Christian. Not knocking anyone who is open to dating or marrying someone with different beliefs. I have a friend who ministers and married someone agnostic and they're completely happy. It's just not the path I want for myself.
Well, as an atheist I have to say it is hard for me to be with someone who has religious beliefs. My Dad is Catholic and always taught us kids that religion is something private even between family members. So if the person I was dating was religious but kept it private, I wouldn't mind.
And to what Garcelle was saying, I find it interesting because I don't need a higher power to keep me responsible, I do it out of love for humanity, the planet and every living being on it. Just because I want to. And it makes me happy to see others safe and happy.
Hmm
For whatever reason, these people think that people who dont believe in god have no morals.
I came to say a similar thing. I don't need a higher power to be held responsible or accountability for my actions.
She rubs me up the wrong way.
@@FallenXSeraph Yes. To be honest, I find it strange that some people say they need someone else or a higher power to keep them responsible. Makes me wonder what they would do if they didn't have that.
But what about an atheist who doesn't love humanity and the planet like you? Or even, with the same strength as you? That's the thing--with an atheist, you're not sure what you're getting. You're not sure what grounds them, because there is no defined standard of morality. They often have different, and changing, concepts of what is good and bad and why it is good or bad.
My husband is Christian and I am Muslim … we tend to focus on the similarities rather than the differences in religion and we still pray together, read the Bible and Quran …. It’s about the relationship with God and we make it work just like any marriage
I’m totally ok with having different beliefs. I’m Christian, my boyfriend is not religious. But to me, that’s ok because he respects my religion and prays with me when I need it. For me it is all about respect. That means more to me
May I ask you a question?
@@SuckerPunch92 sure!
@@makeupisme456 do you plan on getting married?
@@SuckerPunch92 for sure. We have been together 2 years
@@makeupisme456 gotcha. I only ask because my ex wasn’t a believer and submitting to him was a mess. Lol
It’s so strange! Since the beginning of the real. I’ve always wholeheartedly agreed with everything Adrienne says 🤣 like she says what I’m already thinking word for word.. I’m her! 🙈
Y'all are just alike. Maybe y'all can be very good of friends
Nah is deal breaker. As a Muslim I would want my spouse to be Muslim too and a practicing one at that. Is hard to raise kids with two beliefs is confusing and conflicting. Plus one person can lead you out your religion if they have a different religion
I'm a Christian and my boyfriend is Muslim, we've never remotely had that issue tbh.
@@LavendrSkies Agreed my fiancé and I have been together for over 15 years he’s Muslim I’m Christian
@@LavendrSkies As long as he doesn't stop you from eating bacon & drinking alcohol
@@TRINI818 😅 I don't drink tbh and mainly eat turkey bacon, high blood pressure.
Exactly. How could a practicing person be okay with their kids and spouse living a life opposite to their values?
I'm agnostic. I always make it a point in dating to have an open and honest convo about religion because I hear men saying one thing but living a different way. I have been on dates with self-proclaimed devout christians who after a convo will say that they align more with my beliefs. I think many people are torn when it comes to religion but aren't saying it nor exploring it deeper. Its very important in marriages and especially when raising children.
Allah means God in Arabic. Y’all got to stop thinking it’s something else
It's not the same though. Muslims believe that Jesus was a mere prophet while Jesus Christ is the core of the Christian religion. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. No man cometh unto the father but through him. Is that what Muslims believe?
@@favour3319 Jesus never made something called Christianity, people did. Jesus had a duty to teach people, he didn't want to be worshipped. That's on period!
@@bohlalenchabeleng1370 I'm Muslim and you are correct
Let em know
@Christ Follower 777 JESUS NEVER CLAIMED TO BE GOD! SHOW ME A QUOTE WHERE HE SAID "I am God" or "I am Jehova/Yaweh". I'll wait.
Adrienne I'm a proud mama right now. She said exactly how it is. Praying together brings about great intimacy.....yasssssss ❤❤❤
I look forward to these video clips every day 😊
I love it!!! 🥰
I thoroughly enjoyed this segment!
I’m with Adrienne on this one, very beautifully said.👍👍👍
Personally, I will never be in another relationship with someone of a different religion. I’ve done it twice (before I fully started living for God) Once in my teens, another time in my early 20s & it’s all fun in the beginning but then something changes and it eventually becomes a problem. I’m a believer of Jesus Christ, I am Christian, I’m not “religious” I have a beautiful relationship with God. Yes I pray whenever I feel like it because talking to God should be like you’re talking to your friend lol. And Just like Adrienne mentioned, I love church & I go to church as well (but I also have church in my home because Gods spirit is everyone) & need a partner that fully believes in the same things because when you don’t it can be a disaster which for me in those two relationships they were (for reference one was Atheist the other was Muslim) and if/when I ever get married I need my husband to be able to cover me in prayer and I will do the same for him…and we will be raising our family with the same faith/values. Otherwise there’s a high possibility it won’t work
I am a Muslim I can’t marry anyone who isn’t a Muslim.
Right, sister 💛
Unless you are a man, you ain’t got a choice, Sis!
@Anna crystal Of course, just like in Christianity and Judaism you can't marry outside the faith but that's okay. The bias, micro aggression and hypocritical judgment is only reserved for Islam, right. Typical
@Anna crystal Projection much!!!
All I can say is don't think for a second that you can change what a person believes in except them or move on
I absolutely agree!!! The guy I’m talking to, believed in God until he saw no change in his life and kind of walked away, meanwhile I am a devoted Christian on a daily basis and follow God with my entire heart. I know that in order for us to further dating, he would have to come around to be more of a Believer. But that would be his choice on his own time
I am with Adrienne ! I have dated men outside my Christian belief for the most part they have been friendly toward my faith and let me practice and have been respectful edema though they hold no religious belief , yet I would prefer someone who has the same belief because it helps both our faith grow and make the relationship more stronger and stable .
For me it's more about the spiritual relationship with a higher power than a specific religion and traditions. The values created through the person's spirituality and/or religion, in addition with open mindedness, are most important. There is a common truth in the world's great religions, so as long as we both belive in this truth, the details of HOW we honor this truth are not that important.
I’m 27 I’m a Christian and my boyfriend of 8 years became a Hebrew Israelite which ultimately prevented us from getting married. Religion is very important in a relationship
As always, so eloquent and respectfully discussed
I am still hoping to be blessed with a God fearing man. It is important to me because like Adrienne I have dated men of different religion and It never worked because of our believes
I never really thought much about it until my husband and I got married. We both grew up in catholic school and most kids who went to private school are very “blah” about it. We appreciate our faith but we’re not passionate about it. We knew we wanted to get married in church bc it felt natural to us. Also, it didn’t hit me until we had to go to a required retreat. We both grew up that way in grade school and high school and it was nice having someone who knows and just “got it”.
i love watching adriennes little racoon hands when she is talking in an animated way and uses them to emphasize what she is saying hahahaa so cute!
🤣
Racoon hands.. Mean 😂😂😂😂
raccoon hands lmaoo 😭🤣
I’m not religious, but spiritual and my bf he believes in a higher power which is fine, we respect each other’s beliefs which is really what’s important.
No mention of Catholics vs Protestants? A friend of mine was literally called a pope worshiper by her date who was southern baptist.
Lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂....this person came to fight
oh no lol
The Bible says we shouldn’t be unequally yoked, and I now that I’ve experienced unequally yoked relationships, i see why!!
Cause the Bible is stupid
“The two shall not be unequally yoked”
I agree..having something you belive in will keep you to have integrity and conviction.
It's conversations like this that makes me realize they really need an atheist on the panel. The accountability comment was a little insulting. The bible is not where morals were invented or the only place to learn about them.
Thank you! As an Atheist, I find my atheist folks to be a little more accountable because they don't have anything to fall back on. I hated that remark.
100% agree. The show has always been quite good with having women of different backgrounds and experiences, but they've never had someone who's an athiest/doesn't believe in a higher power.
Great topic !! I’m definitely with Adrienne on this !! Reminds me of the movie she played in “ I’m in love with a church girl “ 🥰🥰
I think the most important thing is how devout you are, your core beliefs, and how you incorporate those beliefs into your life. I’m not religious, but personally believe that there is something out there. I dated a Muslim guy and obviously I wanted to learn more about Islam and his traditions in his home country. We got on the topics of our personal beliefs and he was telling me about how they sacrifice goats on Eid and I cringed because I don’t like that idea, but respect it and would ever speak down upon it at all. He asked me why I cringed, I literally said “I just don’t like the visual of that. I understand and respect that it is your religion, so keep doing it, but I would never want to be there when it happens” then he called me a stupid white girl and said “you don’t get it”! Obviously I was very offended because I said I want to hear about why you do it and know significance of it, I would just not like the be there when it happens or see the goat before hand if we were to ever celebrate like that! He had a deeper issue with me not being Muslim in my opinion 🤷🏼♀️
@@Angieibrahim777 i know that, that’s why I respect it and would never have told him not to do it, but still don’t want to be a part of the killing. I don’t eat meat partly because I believe if you wouldn’t kill it with your bare hands then you don’t have the right to eat it 🤷🏼♀️.
I am happy about Loni's response. I always saw her different based on previous comments
Adrienne is so well spoken n has matured so much since the cheetah girls days
my religion is the foundation of my faith and the foundation of my values, therefore i need somebody that i’m on same page with. i’m not sacrificing my salvation for anybody.
As an agnostic-atheist this is important for me. I don't desire to be with a person who is religious, "spiritual" or a believer. A challenge as a black person but oh well.
And if I were to become a parent I wouldn't want to have to go back and forth about raising children without a religious practice.
These conversations are always so one note on programming marketed to black & POC folks. There is rarely a non-religious perspective nevermind agnostic-atheist one.
I have a question for you. Since you don't believe in a higher power, what is the meaning to life? Why are we here? (Just want to hear an atheist perspective)
@@shannon281 as an atheist I can say I don't know and I don't need to know. Humans' obsession and need to explain everything in the world leads to so many theories. We're here, we die and the world goes on until it doesn't anymore. That's it. I don't feel the need to know how the world started or why we're here, we just are. But I understand not having a purpose can send some people into an existential crisis.
@@reybae That's great that you don't care. Makes life very simple. However, I'd be worried if humans were not curious about anything at all. Imagine if scientists didn't think about breathing. Why do we breathe? We never would have discovered oxygen. Or other planets. And medicine. Maybe that innate curiousity is a good thing. The Bible says that curiosity and conscience was put there by God to remind us that He exists. Good thing majority of people believe in a higher power and want to expand their minds; or else we would all be doomed.
@@shannon281 that's all well and good that you're curious I never said it was a bad thing. But it has lead to many erroneous theories. It's kind of ironic that you speak about curiosity and open mindedness when religious people tend to be some of the most close minded people out there. Many of them don't agree with all of the science that you're mentioning now and accuse scientists of playing God. But I guess the curiosity of science is good conveniently. They tend to be so close minded that they can't even accept people who don't believe in religion 🥴 not everyone is the same. And at the end of the day your belief is no more right than mine and that's what a lot of religious people need to accept. Get over it.
@@shannon281 and it doesn't make life very simple actually. My life is exactly the same as it was 8 years ago when I stopped believing lol no better no worse...the same. It's simply another perspective on life. Don't let it bother you too much lol
I agree with Adrienne. Having a spiritual life is also healthy for you as well.
“God’s more important “💜
Yes Adrienne I love doing that also with my hubby…. GOD IS GOOD! 🙏🏾🤎🙌🏽
I am an atheist and my bf was raised Sikh. Our views align because there’s morality to hold u accountable not just “a higher power”.
Another vital discussion. The Real is so necessary. Thanks Ladies!
I want nothing to do with a man who doesn't know and have a deep relationship with The Lord. I don't poo on other people's religions; believe what and how you want to believe (or not); I respect your privacy. For me, I love and serve Jesus! And the man who would be my husband will be the Pastor of the home. That means, as his wife, I come under him (spiritually speaking). I'm not about to submit to and spiritually come under a man who himself doesn't submit to God. Be equally yoked or nothing.