Oh My God. You have so lovingly explained such latent subtle yet veritable basics of Music both western and Indian classsical both. I am a die hard fan of great RD Burman and your narration of this song has still kindled my affinity for him. Please accept my due regards and good wishes for such a great interpretation of one of the most classic composition of Indian Film Music. Please continue to make such gripping episodes. Many questions are answered on its own . Thank you so much.
Thank you very much ♥️♥️🙏🙏😊 In my opinion, Salilda and Panchamda's compositions had too many complexities. The former used harmony in an extraordinary way and the latter exploited rhythm, melody and harmony in all possible ways within time he had at disposal. That movie was full of raag based songs and Panchamda used non classical instruments such as guitar in a totally innovative way. He took Raina beeti jaye to such a level that even Pandit Bhimsenji praised him for that song and other songs from Amar Prem. Hope to cover the analysis for this song in the next 2-3 months🙏
@@ArunArvindMusic This is such a wonderful masterclass from you Arun ji. I have always seen complex jazz influences in Salil da's compositions, which were much ahead of that time. Would love a detailed video on how these great Indian composers sprinkled some western ideas within the realm of hindustani classical. Also, eagerly awaiting your analysis on Raina Beeti Jaaye. I heard an audio clip of Pancham da saying that he composed that song keeping in mind the time. And if we take it from Madhyam, it moves to Todi while if we take it from Shadaj, it swings to Lalit. Look forward to your valuable insights and analysis Arun ji. 🙏
Nice to hear from you again Prashantji ❤️❤️❤️ You are totally right, Todi’s pa if turned to shadaj, will turn into Lalit raag. On the other hand lalits ma, if changed to shadaj, will make it raag todi, in simple terms but all other rules have to be followed carefully. RD himself said these things in meri sangeet yatra. Raina beeti is a bit stuck on my side due dependencies on other friends but the mukhada as you know is based on todi. From the word- nindiya na aaye, it gets out of todi😅 and then panchamda takes us back to todi with Raina beeti jaaye . Guitar chords are 7ths in the mukhada with a few inversions, if not played correctly in the exact positions will definitely mess up the song. Anatara takes us into the world of mishra khamaaj - it’s mishra as the melody uses teewra madhyam in between. That’s all for now, but this song is more complex than chingari. Panchamda was very brave to use guitar in this song with chords not sticking to the notes of todi, but still giving us the todi flavor. Will explain fully in the video😊🙏
अरूण दादा ,आप क्या गिटार बजाते है पूरे मन को झिंझोड़ देते हो ,आपके द्वारा वर्णित बाते भी बाबा गागर मे सगर जैसी होती है ,विडिओ छोडनेकामन हीनही होता है... दादा कभी ...दूनियां मे लोगो को .....और ....पिया तू अब तो आजा ....पर भी प्रकाश डालेंगे ऐसी मेरी हार्दिक ईच्छा है आप जरू पूरी करेंगे ..धन्यवाद❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks a lot Borade saab🙏🙏❤️❤️😊😊 Duniya mein - is that song which i will always include in my top 3 songs of Panchamda. The way he used his huffing was terrific and irreproducible. Yeh gaana karne ki tamanna to hain, lekin uske vocals aur music bahut kathin hain. Is ya agle saal hamare drummer dost ko leke yeh gaana ka instrumental version aur lesson banayenge👍
In my late teens I had tried to play guitar, then the exegencies of work took the better part of me; now it's too late to rekindle.. This is a very very favourite song i like to hear, play on my key boards. In this episode I've heard this song in a new light n am enthralled... Thanks n Regards..
Thank you very much Pradeepji❤️❤️😊🙏🙏 Even if we are not able to play for any reason, understanding the background and diving deeper into these songs is a wonderful journey that can continue for years. I am soon going to upload raina beeti jaye as well and that song too has many many aspects that need to be understood to really enjoy the depth of that song. Will try my best🙏
The stories behind such iconic songs always make interesting reading. And very few lessons take such pains to explain the theory and understanding of a raag based song. Well done.
Arun, your knowledge on all the aspects of this song, raga base and guitar techniques is incredible!! Amazing lesson and video. Thank you for sharing and spreading this interest amongst all!!🙏🏼🙏🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼❤️❤️
Fantastic. I rarely subscribe to guitar channels, but for yours I did not have any choice but to subscribe. Splendid video and great lesson. Pancham Da has been my all-time favourite. Thank you and God bless.
Listening to your explanation of this song is like having a grandmaster explain a chess game: "What was Anand thinking? What was Kasparov thinking?" There is so much more going on under the surface than what we see on the board. Amazingly educational for someone like me with zero knowledge of classical music. Thank you, sir!!
Thank you so much♥️♥️🙏🙏 Indeed what we see is the final result, people took lots of efforts in the past to create a song!!! Having 50-100 people, with those many instruments that need to be tuned perfectly and so many mics, recording live, mixing properly etc - were so many challenges that those people got through with flying colors🙏🙏
I have heard so many theories upon this gem of a track of Pancham till this date,but the way you did that is so deep and clear to understand for music lovers like me❤️As a singer I always follow the melody left by the great जोडी of Pancham ❤️ Kishore,I am singing this from years.But now after understanding the thoughts behind this composition which was driven by the Great Mozart....It would b the different experience for me while doing that... excellent 👍
Thank you so much 🙏🙏😊😊❤️❤️ Music definitely becomes more interesting if we can understand more about the theory or the background. Of course the practical is such as singing or playing the instrument is much more important. All the best for your singing journey👍
Great introspection. ..That's music education. ..Fools out there are putting all nonsense on the net and imparting self made concoctions. ..I myself a ardent fan of RDB knew this genre doesn't even exist in any western or rock music. ..it's only at the beach which you beautifully dramatised. ..keep it up bro. ..Music education needs more people like you. ..Best wishes n Merry Christmas to you n Lord bless you all
Thanks a lot Davidson♥️♥️♥️😊😊😊🙏🙏 Was really nice to see you write about so many points in such a short message. These days everybody wants to teach unfortunately without even sufficient knowledge. Hope I can reduce the noise at least for a few songs. Wishing you too a belated Merry Xmas and a happy new year!!!🎼🎉
@@ArunArvindMusic Thanks Sir for Profile Pic, I alway get confused when we relate our Eastern Sargam with Western Scales though I'm new to scales perhaps that could be the reason its been 9 months only I am learning Music with Guitar, just to mention I'm 34 Year old BOY 😋 who is always late to everything, I'm happy with my progress I play all normal barre Chords and few 7th and 9ths too Thanks to Tutorials Like this on youtube. My question is ; is it necessary to get pro in eastern scals or its just ok to understand basics only and don't get deep into it like Raags Raagni Surs etc. 2nd Question is what should be the right time to learn Eastern Sargam either learn western Scals and Sargams simultaneously or just focus on western Scales and once get pro in it then jump into Eastern or vice versa. I'm looking for guidance please, One important thing to mention I have interest and I play or try to play mostly Jazz, blues, bluegrass and sometime Linkin Park, white strips, ac/dc, Junoon yeah i'm a kid from 90s .
Arun ji, I always enjoy watching n listening to your lessons. I always have a feel of classroom learning. Though I don't subscribe to idea of Online learning but the way you explain the notes of the chord/ragas n play it, one can easily learn it the easy way. 👍👍👍👍👍💐💐💐💐💐
Thanks Hanif-ji♥️♥️♥️😊😊🙏🙏 You are indeed right - initial learning has to be from a teacher. Points such as how to hold the pick, how the hands should move, wrist movement, left hand thumb positioning etc cannot be learnt online. The teacher has to be there to correct the students. We were very lucky to learn from the greats 3 decades back!!!🙏🙏🙏 Feel free to send me email whenever you can, no rush, no pressure👍 Stay safe and healthy!!
Arun ji, I will be highly obliged if you can send videos of how to play 7th, 6th, 9th n added chords i.e their positions n scales by playing the notes. We have exchanged mails in the past. Thanks n regards.
Yes of course Hanif-ji, I remember our emails and the common link, our sir. Ok, will create a video covering just the chord positions and upload on this channel. Should be easy!!!👍
@@ArunArvindMusic nhi sir bhai mat kaho ham tho ap ke student hai .....sir plz sitsi manzil movie ka song tum jo mil gaye ho song ke. Sirf chords ka lesson plz ....
Arun, Excellent!! My long awaited wish is finally fulfilled 😃.. Thanks so much. Thanks for sharing your knowledge story behind this great song. Lot to learn from you. Wonderful lesson and I need to watch this video over and over for my own understanding!!! Enjoyed and loved your singing and the backing track you made❤️
Many thanks Girish ♥️♥️😊😊 I guess we used to play this song to some extent, in the past during those fun times!!! I cannot sing much as you know, but had to do it for the team😅
ll jay ho jay bharat vande matram... manyvar aapke harday me virajmaan param aatma ko hamara nat mastak pranaam......ham itna english nahi jante magar sabji aapki tarif jitani kare utani kam he bahot sidat se aapne video banya he kabile taarif he aap aap hindi bhi bola kijiye taki ham log puri baat samaj sake ek baar phir aapka dhanywwad aapke lesson ka ham intzar rheta he hamari shubh kamna aapke saathhe
Sir first of all thanks for putting in so much effort in making such a great lesson ! With each lesson of your Sir I feel there so much in music we don't know yet ! When we think we just start to know something we just. See your lesson and again we realise we have again to learn so many things 😀 , but we have a great teacher in you Sir we simply love your sharing of so much knowledge ! 🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️ Stay blessed sir ! Your knowledge sharing is very honest !
Thank you very much Wazir-ji♥️♥️♥️😊😊🙏🙏 I guess the learning never stops. If we just just talk about a major or a 7th chord, there are so many positions we can take!!! And then each raag has too many rules, hence it takes a long time to properly present a raag😊
Thank you so much Sir, Shall remain indebted for such an insightful explanation of intricacies of this beautiful composition. I used to use G chord for the komal RE part and now understood what exactly was used in the original composition. Request for another gift w.r.t. Raina Beet Jaye based on raag miya ki todi please ! You're a Genius and Blessed musician. Warm Regards, 🙏🌼🙏
Thank you Subhamoy-ji🙏🙏♥️♥️ Yes, sure will cover Raina beeti jaye in the future. The theory, usage of almost non- permitted notes in chords and application are very interesting as well as complex, though chord playing is not tough👍
@@subhamoybanerjee6724, that's correct. The video cannot be rectified, hence I had updated the description box with the below note. Important Correction: ================== Reference made to Ionian mode has been incorrect. It should Aeolian mode - minor scale!!!
Thanks Atulji♥️♥️🙏🙏 I will add it to my list though honestly I don't know when I can do it as I don't know that song so well and unfortunately don't have the time to study😊
Absolutely amazing lesson..and part of "Raina biti Jaye " was just beautiful ..ek video Raina biti Jaye pe Banta sir....thank you for inspiring us..GOD BLESSED
Thanks a lot Paragda🙏🙏🙏♥️♥️♥️♥️ Making just a straight chords lesson on Raina beeti jaye is easy, though that song has too many complexities, has 2 raags, some stories as well - hope to pick it up early next year!!!🙏
Very nice lesson sir. But I would like to mention one thing very humbly- I know nothing about classical music but spent some time searching the raag on which it is based. I discussed with a classically trained person. The song is not based on bhairavi rather it's on Bilaskhani Todi. Will be expecting your reply sir. 🙏
Good question! Most of the light indian songs are not long enough to establish a raaga's full essence. Chingari is based on bhairavi as mentioned by many experts from the field of classical music. If I remember correctly, Panchamda himself thought of bhairavi while composing the tune. Bilaskhani todi is part of Bhairavi thaat, has a few similarities, so a few people might reinterpret the same song differently, though the main sur in this raag are dha and ga. There are many other differences as well and it depends on which part sounds like bilaskhani. For that matter the anatara has a portion that can take us to Miya ki todi as I mentioned in the video. But dissecting a song that is already short (from classical music's angle) and assigning different raags to those parts will not be the right approach. In short, if you want to dive deeper you can discuss further with your friend to understand why he thinks it's bilaskhani, which parts fall in that raag and then also read about why many others say the song is based in Bhairavi. You will have to spend some time on this👍😊
Good question! Most of the times, songs in videos are higher by half a note. This is because the songs went at higher speeds than the original audio songs. There are also audio songs at higher / lower speeds causing differences in keys, this is because the motor speeds of a cassette player, vinyl player etc have had differences. For chingari original key is f#. Also played by bhupiji in live concerts with kishoreda in F#. And lastly, the opening piece has to have G open string in F# minor key. Us zamaane mein log capo istemaal nahi karte then.
@@ArunArvindMusicJust a quick follow up. I stumbled into a live show recording of Kishoreda from LA. The link is as below. Please scroll to 68 minute mark (1 hour 8 minutes). You can see that the scale is half a note higher than your version 🙏 m.ua-cam.com/video/UYIUaj-ZUwc/v-deo.html&pp=ygUTQXNoYSB3aXRoIGxhdGEgbGl2ZQ%3D%3D
@@ArunArvindMusic thank you for your reply...both the songs are composed beautifully...kuch toh log kehe ge is the one I was hoping you would teach...look forward to your many more tutorials..
Phase 1: Theory wise - guitarists should know these chords (major, min, 7, 6, 9, dim, Aug, Sus2, sus4) and for lead: chromatics, major scale, minor scale in 3 positions. Phase 2: One doesn't have to know modes, ragas initially. But later, depending on what you like you can go to western or Hindustani. Example if you like Deep purple, then learn western. If you like Kishoreda more, learn Hindustani theory more. And this learning continues forever😊👍
Thanks for this lesson. I enjoyed your “trip” almost making it a one on one lesson. The removal of G almost all together has thrown the possibility of Phrygian out of the window. And how. ❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥🔥👌👌👌🙏🙏🙏🙏 Secondly, the Bminor has lived so well to the challenge. RD was a classical genius but in Indian classical music a Raag is built over hours and purist won’t be happy with the abbreviated versions of popular music using Raaga, hence the explanation in part of RD to keep clear of unnecessary controversy. But make no mistake he knew the key movements (phrases) of all Raaga, he knew how to get that “spell” out of the whole thing. The Phrygian thing is now settled, but I would put it in words: in a key Phrygian phrase the reliance is on 1minor 2flatMajor. Here F#min and Gmaj. If that progression is absent the matter is settled it is not Phrygian-plain and simple. Now that is about what it is not. So now what is it. The SamWaadi F# and Wadi B with their respective minor did the job perfectly well and to my ear sound PERFECT. This was UNEXPECTED. I was expecting Gmaj for all your key Bminor use but it was not to be and by definition it is then not Phrygian. It’s key pakad did you spell out. I will see again and work my way again here. The tiwra ma thing in a minor setting adds such a beautiful Indian flavour. Thanks for this huge huge exercise. Your sound always always blows my mind and strikes to the heart straight away. Great work. ❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥🔥👌👌👌👌👍👍👍👏👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thanks doctor Saab for the feedback and opinions♥️♥️♥️😊😊🙏🙏 Yes, the 1st minor, 2nd flat major, 3rd flat major combo is commonly used when songs don't have the bhairavi essence. The wadi is B and samvadi is F#. Usage of C note / teewra madhyam followed by D note, was overwhelming. Didn't say this in the video as it is already too long. D7 chord usage has made at least 2 of LoRD's songs popular - Kya yehi Pyar Hain and this one. Separately, western theory cannot keep up with Indian classical in couple of areas. I will cover one of the points in early 2022 - with another bhairavi song. Phyrgian here won't be able to handle a basic concept 😅😅
Yes, you are totally right👍♥️ I put that correction in the Description box the next day after the video was uploaded, unfortunately there is no way to edit the video🤦Nice of you to bring this up👍😊
Unfortunately for you, I don't as I don't get time from my regular and personal work🙏😊 If you have any specific queries or questions, then drop me an email. I can send unedited videos when I get a chance 👍
Thanks 😊😊♥️♥️ chatted you last week on Saturday about the tabs. I have put tabs for the whole song in the Description box of: ua-cam.com/video/3XkfL1O5Oi8/v-deo.html In case of questions, send me an email please 👍
That's the usual progression, which you may want to correct. But I am glad to hear that you have already been using D, if not D7. Thanks Prakash-ji♥️♥️🙏🙏😊😊
Description has been updated to reflect the correction rgd Aeolian. There is no komal ma, bhairavi uses shuddha ma and in some cases can also include teewra madhyam.
Thanks for the knowledge you shared. Beautiful lesson. I got amazed to hear the chord that you played for....Raina beeti jaye..what was that sir..it was so full. Can you tell the fingering. I play C#7 (F#m scale)here. But what you played was amazing. You may also like to do a lesson on this song. Keep posting...god bless..
Thanks a lot Ashok-ji 🙏🙏♥️♥️♥️ Yes, the chord was C#7, position from the 6th string is as: XX3421. So G# is not played in this position. Then we have to go to D7 and then F#min. Strumming is just the same - single downstroke on the 1st beat. Then from the word neendiya - it goes to F# major etc, you can try this out, should not be tough for you imo👍👍
Oh My God. You have so lovingly explained such latent subtle yet veritable basics of Music both western and Indian classsical both. I am a die hard fan of great RD Burman and your narration of this song has still kindled my affinity for him. Please accept my due regards and good wishes for such a great interpretation of one of the most classic composition of Indian Film Music. Please continue to make such gripping episodes. Many questions are answered on its own . Thank you so much.
Thank you very much ♥️♥️🙏🙏😊 In my opinion, Salilda and Panchamda's compositions had too many complexities. The former used harmony in an extraordinary way and the latter exploited rhythm, melody and harmony in all possible ways within time he had at disposal. That movie was full of raag based songs and Panchamda used non classical instruments such as guitar in a totally innovative way. He took Raina beeti jaye to such a level that even Pandit Bhimsenji praised him for that song and other songs from Amar Prem. Hope to cover the analysis for this song in the next 2-3 months🙏
@@ArunArvindMusic This is such a wonderful masterclass from you Arun ji. I have always seen complex jazz influences in Salil da's compositions, which were much ahead of that time. Would love a detailed video on how these great Indian composers sprinkled some western ideas within the realm of hindustani classical. Also, eagerly awaiting your analysis on Raina Beeti Jaaye. I heard an audio clip of Pancham da saying that he composed that song keeping in mind the time. And if we take it from Madhyam, it moves to Todi while if we take it from Shadaj, it swings to Lalit. Look forward to your valuable insights and analysis Arun ji. 🙏
Nice to hear from you again Prashantji ❤️❤️❤️ You are totally right, Todi’s pa if turned to shadaj, will turn into Lalit raag. On the other hand lalits ma, if changed to shadaj, will make it raag todi, in simple terms but all other rules have to be followed carefully. RD himself said these things in meri sangeet yatra.
Raina beeti is a bit stuck on my side due dependencies on other friends but the mukhada as you know is based on todi. From the word- nindiya na aaye, it gets out of todi😅 and then panchamda takes us back to todi with Raina beeti jaaye . Guitar chords are 7ths in the mukhada with a few inversions, if not played correctly in the exact positions will definitely mess up the song. Anatara takes us into the world of mishra khamaaj - it’s mishra as the melody uses teewra madhyam in between. That’s all for now, but this song is more complex than chingari. Panchamda was very brave to use guitar in this song with chords not sticking to the notes of todi, but still giving us the todi flavor. Will explain fully in the video😊🙏
अरूण दादा ,आप क्या गिटार बजाते है पूरे मन को झिंझोड़ देते हो ,आपके द्वारा वर्णित बाते भी बाबा गागर मे सगर जैसी होती है ,विडिओ छोडनेकामन हीनही होता है... दादा कभी ...दूनियां मे लोगो को .....और ....पिया तू अब तो आजा ....पर भी प्रकाश डालेंगे ऐसी मेरी हार्दिक ईच्छा है आप जरू पूरी करेंगे ..धन्यवाद❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks a lot Borade saab🙏🙏❤️❤️😊😊 Duniya mein - is that song which i will always include in my top 3 songs of Panchamda. The way he used his huffing was terrific and irreproducible. Yeh gaana karne ki tamanna to hain, lekin uske vocals aur music bahut kathin hain. Is ya agle saal hamare drummer dost ko leke yeh gaana ka instrumental version aur lesson banayenge👍
In my late teens I had tried to play guitar, then the exegencies of work took the better part of me; now it's too late to rekindle..
This is a very very favourite song i like to hear, play on my key boards.
In this episode I've heard this song in a new light n am enthralled... Thanks n Regards..
Thank you very much Pradeepji❤️❤️😊🙏🙏 Even if we are not able to play for any reason, understanding the background and diving deeper into these songs is a wonderful journey that can continue for years. I am soon going to upload raina beeti jaye as well and that song too has many many aspects that need to be understood to really enjoy the depth of that song. Will try my best🙏
The stories behind such iconic songs always make interesting reading. And very few lessons take such pains to explain the theory and understanding of a raag based song. Well done.
Thank you very much for the appreciation 🙏🙏♥️♥️♥️😊😊
Arun, your knowledge on all the aspects of this song, raga base and guitar techniques is incredible!! Amazing lesson and video. Thank you for sharing and spreading this interest amongst all!!🙏🏼🙏🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼❤️❤️
Thank you!!! Panchamda really poured out his heart in these songs, all I can do is analyze to some extent what these geniuses were thinking ♥️♥️🙏🙏😊😊
@@ArunArvindMusic🙏💕👍
Fantastic. I rarely subscribe to guitar channels, but for yours I did not have any choice but to subscribe. Splendid video and great lesson. Pancham Da has been my all-time favourite. Thank you and God bless.
Thank you very much❤️🙏😊 and glad that you liked it!
Excellent way of teaching and intepretition 🎉🎉🎉
Thank you very much Ranjeetji❤️❤️❤️😊🙏
Arun ji : What an education in understanding western scales and Indian ragas.
I am blessed and inspired by your erudite explanation. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Thank you very much Anantji❤️🙏🙏😊😊
Listening to your explanation of this song is like having a grandmaster explain a chess game: "What was Anand thinking? What was Kasparov thinking?" There is so much more going on under the surface than what we see on the board.
Amazingly educational for someone like me with zero knowledge of classical music. Thank you, sir!!
Thank you so much♥️♥️🙏🙏 Indeed what we see is the final result, people took lots of efforts in the past to create a song!!! Having 50-100 people, with those many instruments that need to be tuned perfectly and so many mics, recording live, mixing properly etc - were so many challenges that those people got through with flying colors🙏🙏
I have heard so many theories upon this gem of a track of Pancham till this date,but the way you did that is so deep and clear to understand for music lovers like me❤️As a singer I always follow the melody left by the great जोडी of Pancham ❤️ Kishore,I am singing this from years.But now after understanding the thoughts behind this composition which was driven by the Great Mozart....It would b the different experience for me while doing that... excellent 👍
Thank you so much 🙏🙏😊😊❤️❤️ Music definitely becomes more interesting if we can understand more about the theory or the background. Of course the practical is such as singing or playing the instrument is much more important. All the best for your singing journey👍
@@ArunArvindMusic Thanks for blessings Sir ❤️
This information given is GOLD !! PLZ KEEP IT UP 👍👍
Thank you so much ❤️😊🙏
Excellent lesson sir... Thank u very much 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thank you very much Vijay-ji♥️♥️🙏🙏🙂🙂
Great introspection. ..That's music education. ..Fools out there are putting all nonsense on the net and imparting self made concoctions. ..I myself a ardent fan of RDB knew this genre doesn't even exist in any western or rock music. ..it's only at the beach which you beautifully dramatised. ..keep it up bro. ..Music education needs more people like you. ..Best wishes n Merry Christmas to you n Lord bless you all
Thanks a lot Davidson♥️♥️♥️😊😊😊🙏🙏 Was really nice to see you write about so many points in such a short message. These days everybody wants to teach unfortunately without even sufficient knowledge. Hope I can reduce the noise at least for a few songs. Wishing you too a belated Merry Xmas and a happy new year!!!🎼🎉
Entertained with your grip on specially Chingari song. What an immortal song and music . Thank You indeed
Thank you very much ♥️♥️🙏🙏😊😊
Too much informative ❤💓, most of knowledge just go above my head as I'm new to music theory but I say its the best lesson i ever had on youtube.
Thank you very much ♥️♥️🙏🙏😊 The theory is not so tough, let me know if you have any questions. Your profile pic in nice😊👍
@@ArunArvindMusic Thanks Sir for Profile Pic, I alway get confused when we relate our Eastern Sargam with Western Scales though I'm new to scales perhaps that could be the reason its been 9 months only I am learning Music with Guitar, just to mention I'm 34 Year old BOY 😋 who is always late to everything, I'm happy with my progress I play all normal barre Chords and few 7th and 9ths too Thanks to Tutorials Like this on youtube. My question is ; is it necessary to get pro in eastern scals or its just ok to understand basics only and don't get deep into it like Raags Raagni Surs etc. 2nd Question is what should be the right time to learn Eastern Sargam either learn western Scals and Sargams simultaneously or just focus on western Scales and once get pro in it then jump into Eastern or vice versa. I'm looking for guidance please, One important thing to mention I have interest and I play or try to play mostly Jazz, blues, bluegrass and sometime Linkin Park, white strips, ac/dc, Junoon yeah i'm a kid from 90s .
Sorry for such a Long Comment 🥺.
Brilliant composition
Arun ji, I always enjoy watching n listening to your lessons. I always have a feel of classroom learning. Though I don't subscribe to idea of Online learning but the way you explain the notes of the chord/ragas n play it, one can easily learn it the easy way. 👍👍👍👍👍💐💐💐💐💐
Thanks Hanif-ji♥️♥️♥️😊😊🙏🙏 You are indeed right - initial learning has to be from a teacher. Points such as how to hold the pick, how the hands should move, wrist movement, left hand thumb positioning etc cannot be learnt online. The teacher has to be there to correct the students. We were very lucky to learn from the greats 3 decades back!!!🙏🙏🙏 Feel free to send me email whenever you can, no rush, no pressure👍 Stay safe and healthy!!
Arun ji, I will be highly obliged if you can send videos of how to play 7th, 6th, 9th n added chords i.e their positions n scales by playing the notes. We have exchanged mails in the past.
Thanks n regards.
Yes of course Hanif-ji, I remember our emails and the common link, our sir. Ok, will create a video covering just the chord positions and upload on this channel. Should be easy!!!👍
Yes this will help me n others also in learning these chords n lessons which is generally not taught in guitar classes.
Absolutely Amazing Arun Ji!❤
Thanks a lot Victorji❤️❤️😊🙏
Just amazed at how much you have studied music
Thank you very much Vikramji ♥️♥️🙏🙏😊
Kya baat sir very use full song ......
We need more lessons 😎😎😎😎👍😎😎😎😎😎👍
Dhanyawad Yusuf Bhai♥️♥️🙏🙏😊
@@ArunArvindMusic nhi sir bhai mat kaho ham tho ap ke student hai .....sir plz sitsi manzil movie ka song tum jo mil gaye ho song ke. Sirf chords ka lesson plz ....
Is this the song :
ua-cam.com/video/3GYp_B2J_hI/v-deo.html
If not, can you please post the link?
Excellent. Thank you sir.
Thank you very much ♥️♥️🙏🙏😊
Arun, Excellent!! My long awaited wish is finally fulfilled 😃.. Thanks so much. Thanks for sharing your knowledge story behind this great song. Lot to learn from you. Wonderful lesson and I need to watch this video over and over for my own understanding!!! Enjoyed and loved your singing and the backing track you made❤️
Many thanks Girish ♥️♥️😊😊 I guess we used to play this song to some extent, in the past during those fun times!!! I cannot sing much as you know, but had to do it for the team😅
Very nice Arun Magician sir.. Every time you surprise us with your guitar and music knowledge. Keep sending lessions for us sir. Thanks
Thanks Amarnath-ji ♥️♥️😊😊
Great, nice song, nice lesson and good info about basuda, rd burman and bhupender👌🙏
Thanks 😊😊🙏🙏 It's actually Bhanuda, he played the guitar. Basuda was the arranger, the names are quite close😊
@@ArunArvindMusic ok
Enjoyed your lesson saw it several times.Thank you sir.
Thanks a lot ♥️♥️😊😊
ll jay ho jay bharat vande matram... manyvar aapke harday me virajmaan param aatma ko hamara nat mastak pranaam......ham itna english nahi jante magar sabji aapki tarif jitani kare utani kam he bahot sidat se aapne video banya he kabile taarif he aap aap hindi bhi bola kijiye taki ham log puri baat samaj sake ek baar phir aapka dhanywwad aapke lesson ka ham intzar rheta he hamari shubh kamna aapke saathhe
Bahut bahut dhanyawad Jay Prakash-ji🙏🙏🙏😊♥️♥️ Ab se angrezi thoda kum karke, Hindi mein jyada bolne ki koshish karunga👍😊
Sir great thanx a lot for this lesson.
Thank you Kamal-ji, hope you are doing fine 🙏🙏♥️♥️😊😊
Fantastic master class
Thanks Aakashji♥️♥️😊😊
Sir I am a big fan of yours. Thanks for this video. I have learnt a lot from this.
Thank you so much, glad to hear that it was useful🙏🙏😊😊♥️♥️♥️
Very good explanation !! 👍
Thank you very much 😊😊♥️♥️🙏🙏
Thanks a lot..beautiful tutorial.
Thank you ❤️❤️🙏🙏😊😊
It's very informative for a beginner guitarist like me. I really enjoyed this.
Thanks and very glad to hear you as a beginner, were able to understand ♥️♥️😊😊🙏🙏
Fantastic. Thank you
Thank you very much ♥️♥️🙏, 😊
Very nice, thoroughly enjoyed! :-)
Thanks 😊😊♥️♥️
Great lesson sir...
Thank you very much ♥️♥️🙏🙏😊😊
What an amazing lesson. Thank you sir!
Thanks a lot 😊😊♥️♥️🙏🙏
Sir first of all thanks for putting in so much effort in making such a great lesson ! With each lesson of your Sir I feel there so much in music we don't know yet ! When we think we just start to know something we just. See your lesson and again we realise we have again to learn so many things 😀 , but we have a great teacher in you Sir we simply love your sharing of so much knowledge ! 🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️ Stay blessed sir ! Your knowledge sharing is very honest !
Thank you very much Wazir-ji♥️♥️♥️😊😊🙏🙏 I guess the learning never stops. If we just just talk about a major or a 7th chord, there are so many positions we can take!!! And then each raag has too many rules, hence it takes a long time to properly present a raag😊
Thank you so much Sir,
Shall remain indebted for such an insightful explanation of intricacies of this beautiful composition. I used to use G chord for the komal RE part and now understood what exactly was used in the original composition.
Request for another gift w.r.t. Raina Beet Jaye based on raag miya ki todi please !
You're a Genius and Blessed musician.
Warm Regards,
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Thank you Subhamoy-ji🙏🙏♥️♥️ Yes, sure will cover Raina beeti jaye in the future. The theory, usage of almost non- permitted notes in chords and application are very interesting as well as complex, though chord playing is not tough👍
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One clarification please,
Ionian mode is major scale & aeolian mode is natural minor scale, kindly correct me.
@@subhamoybanerjee6724, that's correct. The video cannot be rectified, hence I had updated the description box with the below note.
Important Correction:
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Reference made to Ionian mode has been incorrect. It should Aeolian mode - minor scale!!!
Amazing lesson n video... thank u sir
Excellent 👌👌 sir
Thank you Mukulji ♥️♥️🙏🙏😊
Thank you so much Sir for telling Deep theory of this song.
Thanks Neeraj- ji🙏🙏♥️♥️ There was no choice but to go deep😊😊
Arun ji, excellent information. thank you so much. Request for a session for 'Jab koi baat bigad jaye"?
Thanks Atulji♥️♥️🙏🙏 I will add it to my list though honestly I don't know when I can do it as I don't know that song so well and unfortunately don't have the time to study😊
@@ArunArvindMusic no issues. Appreciate the response
Absolutely loved the video Sir....keep em coming :) ...great work as always!
Thank you very much Pratikji♥️♥️🙏🙏😊😊
Sir you are great
Thanks, still learning 😊😊 It's great to have students like you♥️♥️🙏🙏
Awesome sirju
Thank you very much ♥️♥️😊😊🙏
Absolutely amazing lesson..and part of "Raina biti Jaye " was just beautiful ..ek video Raina biti Jaye pe Banta sir....thank you for inspiring us..GOD BLESSED
Thanks a lot Paragda🙏🙏🙏♥️♥️♥️♥️ Making just a straight chords lesson on Raina beeti jaye is easy, though that song has too many complexities, has 2 raags, some stories as well - hope to pick it up early next year!!!🙏
Very nicely done and informative. Needs editing and shortening. Otherwise quite brilliant
Thank you very much❤️😊🙏
Amazing 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thank you very much 🙏😊❤️
Brilliant! Superb! Just one ' minor' point: Ionian mode is major; it's aeolian mode that's minor
Thank you very much ♥️♥️🙏😊 Yes, I put a correction in the Description box, as there no way to re-edit the video.
Nice sir please upload badan pe sitare
Thank you😊😊♥️♥️🙏🙏 Sure will do, will take some time, too many songs are on the queue and i am getting busy with other things👍
Love you sir❤️
Thank you 😊😊♥️♥️
Very good sir 😊
Thanks a lot😊❤️🙏
Nice video ji ❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks a lot🙏😊❤️
awesome guitar lesson Sir 🙏🏻
do u teach guitar online?
Thank you very much ♥️♥️😊😊🙏🙏 Unfortunately I don't teach due to lack of time.
❤Excellent 🎉
Thank you 😊🙏
Very nice lesson sir.
But I would like to mention one thing very humbly-
I know nothing about classical music but spent some time searching the raag on which it is based. I discussed with a classically trained person. The song is not based on bhairavi rather it's on Bilaskhani Todi.
Will be expecting your reply sir. 🙏
Good question! Most of the light indian songs are not long enough to establish a raaga's full essence. Chingari is based on bhairavi as mentioned by many experts from the field of classical music. If I remember correctly, Panchamda himself thought of bhairavi while composing the tune. Bilaskhani todi is part of Bhairavi thaat, has a few similarities, so a few people might reinterpret the same song differently, though the main sur in this raag are dha and ga. There are many other differences as well and it depends on which part sounds like bilaskhani. For that matter the anatara has a portion that can take us to Miya ki todi as I mentioned in the video. But dissecting a song that is already short (from classical music's angle) and assigning different raags to those parts will not be the right approach.
In short, if you want to dive deeper you can discuss further with your friend to understand why he thinks it's bilaskhani, which parts fall in that raag and then also read about why many others say the song is based in Bhairavi. You will have to spend some time on this👍😊
Sir. When you watch the video, the song sounds half a note above this. Which is the correct scale?
Good question! Most of the times, songs in videos are higher by half a note. This is because the songs went at higher speeds than the original audio songs. There are also audio songs at higher / lower speeds causing differences in keys, this is because the motor speeds of a cassette player, vinyl player etc have had differences.
For chingari original key is f#. Also played by bhupiji in live concerts with kishoreda in F#. And lastly, the opening piece has to have G open string in F# minor key. Us zamaane mein log capo istemaal nahi karte then.
@@ArunArvindMusicJust a quick follow up. I stumbled into a live show recording of Kishoreda from LA. The link is as below. Please scroll to 68 minute mark (1 hour 8 minutes). You can see that the scale is half a note higher than your version 🙏
m.ua-cam.com/video/UYIUaj-ZUwc/v-deo.html&pp=ygUTQXNoYSB3aXRoIGxhdGEgbGl2ZQ%3D%3D
Can you please do another song from amar prem too...it's great to learn from you 🙏
Thank you Maniji♥️♥️🙏🙏🙂🙂 Which is the other song in your mind - raina beet jaaye or kuchh to log kahenge?
@@ArunArvindMusic thank you for your reply...both the songs are composed beautifully...kuch toh log kehe ge is the one I was hoping you would teach...look forward to your many more tutorials..
Sir, I think that should be Aeolian Mode instead of Ionian.
Love your channel
Oh, that was a bad mistake 🤦 I will put correction in the Description box. Thanks for bringing this up🙏🙏♥️♥️👍
Hlo sir
Guitar western or Indian kon se style m seekhna better h🙏🙏
Phase 1: Theory wise - guitarists should know these chords (major, min, 7, 6, 9, dim, Aug, Sus2, sus4) and for lead: chromatics, major scale, minor scale in 3 positions.
Phase 2: One doesn't have to know modes, ragas initially. But later, depending on what you like you can go to western or Hindustani. Example if you like Deep purple, then learn western. If you like Kishoreda more, learn Hindustani theory more.
And this learning continues forever😊👍
@@ArunArvindMusic thanks a lot sir... 🙏🙏🙏
Million thanks to you for such wonderful gift....no words....🙏
Thank you very much 😊😊♥️♥️ Hope all's well at your end.
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Thanks♥️♥️♥️🙏🙏🙏😊😊
Thanks for this lesson. I enjoyed your “trip” almost making it a one on one lesson. The removal of G almost all together has thrown the possibility of Phrygian out of the window. And how. ❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥🔥👌👌👌🙏🙏🙏🙏
Secondly, the Bminor has lived so well to the challenge.
RD was a classical genius but in Indian classical music a Raag is built over hours and purist won’t be happy with the abbreviated versions of popular music using Raaga, hence the explanation in part of RD to keep clear of unnecessary controversy. But make no mistake he knew the key movements (phrases) of all Raaga, he knew how to get that “spell” out of the whole thing.
The Phrygian thing is now settled, but I would put it in words: in a key Phrygian phrase the reliance is on 1minor 2flatMajor. Here F#min and Gmaj. If that progression is absent the matter is settled it is not Phrygian-plain and simple.
Now that is about what it is not. So now what is it. The SamWaadi F# and Wadi B with their respective minor did the job perfectly well and to my ear sound PERFECT. This was UNEXPECTED. I was expecting Gmaj for all your key Bminor use but it was not to be and by definition it is then not Phrygian.
It’s key pakad did you spell out. I will see again and work my way again here.
The tiwra ma thing in a minor setting adds such a beautiful Indian flavour.
Thanks for this huge huge exercise. Your sound always always blows my mind and strikes to the heart straight away.
Great work.
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Thanks doctor Saab for the feedback and opinions♥️♥️♥️😊😊🙏🙏 Yes, the 1st minor, 2nd flat major, 3rd flat major combo is commonly used when songs don't have the bhairavi essence. The wadi is B and samvadi is F#. Usage of C note / teewra madhyam followed by D note, was overwhelming.
Didn't say this in the video as it is already too long. D7 chord usage has made at least 2 of LoRD's songs popular - Kya yehi Pyar Hain and this one. Separately, western theory cannot keep up with Indian classical in couple of areas. I will cover one of the points in early 2022 - with another bhairavi song. Phyrgian here won't be able to handle a basic concept 😅😅
@@ArunArvindMusic so true. Long live the lord. 🙏🙏🙏
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Thank you ♥️🙏🙂
Sir Ionian is Major 7th i think that should be Aeolian or pure minor
Yes, you are totally right👍♥️ I put that correction in the Description box the next day after the video was uploaded, unfortunately there is no way to edit the video🤦Nice of you to bring this up👍😊
Thanks so much Sir
Version 2 is exact...as the original...cheers
Thank you🙏🙏😊😊
Sir Do you take classes?
Unfortunately for you, I don't as I don't get time from my regular and personal work🙏😊 If you have any specific queries or questions, then drop me an email. I can send unedited videos when I get a chance 👍
Sir kya aap online tution dete hai
Utna waqt nahi hai unfortunately. Aapko kuchh sawal pucchne hain to email bhejiyega please🙏👍
Sir please make video how to find any song tune or melody please
This is a tough request. It takes years to learn this. Will create a short video on the basics 👍 lekin Kafi time lagega!!!
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Very nice sir 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾please kyamat ka tabs khe staye khe rulaye
Thanks 😊😊♥️♥️ chatted you last week on Saturday about the tabs. I have put tabs for the whole song in the Description box of: ua-cam.com/video/3XkfL1O5Oi8/v-deo.html
In case of questions, send me an email please 👍
first one
Nice arun ji I use F#m A Bm Em D G F#m in mukhda
That's the usual progression, which you may want to correct. But I am glad to hear that you have already been using D, if not D7. Thanks Prakash-ji♥️♥️🙏🙏😊😊
sir can make srivali song with tab tks lot
Sorry but I don't know that song🙏🙏
Version 2 authentic
You got it right 👍
Gteat Traching
Thank you very much 😊🙏❤️
Ionoin not aelion and ma shudh what? It's ma komal
Description has been updated to reflect the correction rgd Aeolian. There is no komal ma, bhairavi uses shuddha ma and in some cases can also include teewra madhyam.
Thanks for the knowledge you shared. Beautiful lesson. I got amazed to hear the chord that you played for....Raina beeti jaye..what was that sir..it was so full. Can you tell the fingering. I play C#7 (F#m scale)here. But what you played was amazing. You may also like to do a lesson on this song. Keep posting...god bless..
Thanks a lot Ashok-ji 🙏🙏♥️♥️♥️ Yes, the chord was C#7, position from the 6th string is as: XX3421. So G# is not played in this position. Then we have to go to D7 and then F#min. Strumming is just the same - single downstroke on the 1st beat. Then from the word neendiya - it goes to F# major etc, you can try this out, should not be tough for you imo👍👍