Grimnir: Odin's Path of Misfortune
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
- A quick look into Odin's aspect as the Deceiver.
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I love this, thank you Arith. One of the many things I love about the stories of Odin is the constant reminder that power and skill and knowledge all require a sacrifice and we only get a brief moment to enjoy those things. It's a reminder to be deliberate about your pursuits and to be careful only to reach for the things you are willing to pay for in full. You only have two eyes, after all
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Only Bilbo did that.
Odin was one of the presiding gods over one the biggest festivals of the year. One source calls him the Father of Júl/Yule.
He is also clearly a hospitality god as well. A god that as a traveler expected good treatment for all who are welcomed into your home.
He is also a god of oaths kept, and agreements upheld. This is a grim responsibilty, but a positive one.
He also helped create humanity, and Midgard.
He is complex, amoral in some ways, but definitely favored. A day of the week is named for him, that is a high honor.
Odin is the great initiator into a higher consciousness
He is the Wotan, and will lead you to your downfall.
Máni = Monday
Tyr = Tuesday
Thor = Thursday
Freya = Friday
So Odin isn't the only one with a day.
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That's right. All of those gods are held in high honor. Isn't polytheism great?
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Another very informative entry.Wardruna,Forndom,Var Umn.That would be a great live line up indeed.
This is sadly relatable. I am being evicted and I can’t find housing. I may lose my precious cat Jarl. Sorry if this the wrong place, but any fellow Pagan prayers would be appreciated. Gods bless, thank you.🙏
Arith Brother, your music is powerful!
My dear friend Arith, always a joy to see you in my feed! Thank you for another great video on the Allfather. I look forward to hearing your music.
Major motivating factor:
ODIN: gain power over others by any means necessary
THOR: protect family and home passionately
LOKI: alleviate boredom and avoid stagnation
Modern conclusions:
ODIN: great guy, totally cares about people
THOR: warrior, not a family man
LOKI: totally evil and malevolent
I think christianity totally warped our POV. Hopefully this will correct itself over thr next few generations.
Absolutely wonderful. I swear, I think your videos help so much. A knowledge that is unparalleled that communicate to your community.
Love this analysis and understanding ❤ thank you so much for sharing this insight!
Now you have iluminated me. I have always consider them both tricksters but this new perspective have much sense.❤
Thank you! 😊 I always learn something new from you! You look well, I appreciate the videos
That explains alot, merci beaucoup mon ami!
I like Odin more each day.
Self development + no morals feels perfect
What can I say, I am a big fan of Odin love your work & also thanks for this lecture ❤❤❤❤👍
Literally I have Othala tattooed and dedicated my life to Odin and death in battle because life wasn't a very optimistic time for me in my younger years... I gained skill akin to Galdr read and wondered at the Havamal and learned the elder futhark both esoteric and as a writing system but this misery is true and as Grimnr he at least was able to come away with the blood of Kvasir or the Soma of the gods what happened to me I lost everything and everyone and turning to my left I became devout to Freyja in all her aspects and to Seither and sewing of seeds and wandering in observance and wonder the beauty of the forests and my animal in native american shamanism is the hawk or falcon interestingly as Freyja's cloak Brisingamn is of hawk feathers and I look on now to Folkvangr as it feels what is right in my life... I do feel a sense of accomplishment at having been blessed to be a living shield maiden imbued with aspects of both Vanir and Aesir... thanks for your beautiful tales and truths about norse religion! I love the music and your artwork as well!! You are one of the foremost advocates for the truth of the norse spiritual path! May you continue onward sacred bard!
Thank you Arith so good to hear more about Norse mythology and shedding light on Odin. Be safe!
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Odin gave me Gugnir and the oath, now mad and misfortune. Hard lessons when somebody got more knowledge than you are.
One eye, one arm two spirits. Three swords.
Hail Odin
Odin loved giving draupnirs away. Imagine having all your space taken up by billions and billions of self replicating golden rings.
I also think it is worth mentioning that a lot of the dubious, and cruel acts he does directly benefit the gods, and humanity.
The mead of poetry is where our art comes from.
The wars he causes and the lives lost help empower him for Ragnarok.
He is constantly trying to keep the gods and humanity safe by using his knowledge of the future, and the agreements he holds the great powers to.
yes, this is important, he is a leader who has aligned his own goals with what is good for those who follow him. Leaders do what has to be done, he is not tyrannical but he will not hesitate to take what he needs. he is a frightening figure but I think that's preferable to our leaders, who act just as brutally but pretend to be benign
If I go and build a house so I have a roof over my head, but this way the roof also provides protection for cats and bugs ... So, would you say: I am a great protector?
I did not consider the other critters, the house was for MY good. My good was all whete my intention goes into. I really don't care if the critters are here or not. But now the cat is here ... I bind it to me and use it to fight off the mich that endanger MY house.
Again: not compassion but personal gain.
Would you call me a protector for all?
@@sandra.helianthus He helped carve humanity, and many of the things he does is for the explicite defense of the gods and humanity. His name means Ecstacy, the ecstacy of battle, AND the ecstacy of art. He is one that inspires. If I were in battle, I'd want the ferverent drive to survive. When I do art, I want to creativity to show through.
He put Hel in charge of the realm of the dead so that even after we die we will be looked after. His son Thor is the protector of mankind. Odin clearly supports this.
I don't think we are like strays or pests in his home. It seems pretty clear he cares.
@@pcap8810 Yes, and the kind of leadership that was needed back then, is quite different from today. It wasn't a job, it was a duty. A duty that many abused, but that is still the same today. Odin would likely approve of ethical leadership, and wise leadership.
In conversations like this I think it is important tl remember that the myths are filtered in through christianity, and that the stories we tell to begin with are more like representations of the gods, than the gods themselves.
@@sandra.helianthus if you align your goals you don’t have to worry about what is being done for whom. When you’re all in the same boat you all work to keep it afloat, selfishly we help each other
Its interesting how you are able to explain the characters of the Norse gods to us. I have my own unverified gnosis of Odin, which was very positive but I realise you are talking the facts of the mythology. I respect your knowledge. Your explanation of tricksters makes sense. It is a necessity to shake up the foundations to see if there is anything that can be made better. I see the individuality of Odin, in fact, he invited me to sit on a throne (in a dream), which I interpret as self sovereignty, he is a Sovereign's god after all.
He giveth, and he taketh away. Great video, my friend! Thank you 🖤
Really excited to listen to this one! 'Grimnir' has always been one of Odin's most interesting and compelling names to me, so much so I made a character with the same name for a project I was working on. That story didn't pan out, but the character is still with me and I'm sure he'll manifest in one way or another in something I make, even as just a legend. Excited to learn more context both for my artistry and for my practice!
A blessing to destroy your destiny but will be a wild ride for five minutes
There's always a price to pay at the end of the day. Look at how much Odin suffered to gain knowledge of the runes or even how much he suffered to gain some of his other powers. I believe he isn't evil, but instead will make you understand that you must be prepared to endure any kind of sufferings or hardships if you truly want to reach a difficult goal. If you want to collect honey be prepared for the bee stings that come with it.
Fantastic video Arith! I found it to be very reflective of some of my own experiences with Odin, especially as someone who was led to Norse spiritual practice by Loki and so broadly looks at things with a more Lokean perspective.
I would say mine with Odin have been primarily positive, though the severity and intensity of his knowledge and ambition is ever-present. So I try not to ask too much of him.
Interestingly, I've also had some tension between him and The Morrigan in my personal experiences (I honor the Irish gods that have reached to me as well), as she is very tied to fate and outcomes, and interestingly battle as well.
Anyway, without getting *too* esoteric and personal, the practical explanation of the effect of The Morrigan upon me is that she helps me stay accountable to myself and reminded of the severity of going against the way of things upon my own path and in tandem with who I am.
(I once saw a crow very angrily chase a raven, which are in range but uncommon here, out of my yard relatively close to me)
I think there's a lot to learn from Odin, both in is fortunes and misfortunes, and I do still feel Loki and Odin as two sides of the same coin at times. Loki employs his divergent existence to disrupt power, and Odin's divergence serves his willingness to do whatever is needed to gain and grow power.
I see the greatest necessities in Loki, as it relates to my practice, but Odin has still helped me work towards self empowerment nonetheless.
So we shall see where things take me! My power continues to be in subversion and reappropriation of power, learned mainly through Loki (alongside some indigenous medicines as well) and I feel safe in that. A path in proximity to Odin in my eyes is one that should always be considered as clearly and consciously as possible.
Odin is King
He is also the leader of the army of the dead. And the great initiator into a higher consciousness.
As an opinion layer of rooting bulbous bent to flower, we humble ourselves amidst what lies of truth. For as a dowry of antimony and/or kohl; this presentation of yours, Arith Härger gives a great luster to the metallurgy of marriage unto soul spiriting mind.
Thank you 😍
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Wonderful insights! I do tend to disagree w/ your assessment of Loki, who causes harm for harm’s sake. Odin is equally amoral, but for different reasons; mostly, what he perceives as his own benefit. I think your comparison between Odin and the ruling class is spot-on, and is meant as a metaphor for how most people should interact/view ruling classes, and their roles in the ancient culture.
totally agree with you on this one kiddo ! so glad that my favourite is Loki as we have a lot in common, both feral and outsiders of society and both full of fire and mischief but well meaning at heart :) I also see his son Fenrir as the creator/destroyer , I think as an aspect of himself ......oh by the way I love the new album and my favourite track is the title track
Love it when you call me "kiddo" :D and I'm happy you enjoyed the new album my dear friend! :D
:) you will always be 'kiddo' to me :) and yes i love it ......
I would also like to express my opinion. I believe that, for too long, humans have limited the gods by placing their own perceptions and mistakes; their frustrations and inclinations. Just like what people have done to the Christian God. They don't need to prove anything to humanity, for they are what they are, like a force of nature
I have always wondered about the modern fascination with Odin because I have always understood him to be a deceitful, manipulating god. So many people I know latched onto the superficial pop culture notions of Odin because it appears metal and cool. They have no idea the depths and truths of the god they proclaim to follow. Thank you for making this video!
Definitely will be listening to your music and drawing some norse stuffs
how can Odin not be for the collective when he blessed manking with the secrets of the runes?
He literally sought the knowledge of the runes for himself. The whole finding of the runes is a poem "a sacrifice from myself to myself" 🤷🏼
I love Odin. I can't help it. 😅
Nothing wrong with that
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Please consider reviewing the work of Neil Gaiman in its many forms: AMERICAN GODS.
I have a personal love for that story, having been born and raised near the House on the Rock, where the old gods of Europe convene on lands of the Ho Chunk. Thank you.
A great lesson, thank you.
I think of Odin as giving and taking the good and bad with equal measure, that the manifested is what we create. Is Loki the tester of our abilities trying to throw us off our path and goals?
Or, Is Odin transformation and does he change depending on what tricks are played or does he change to avoid the trick in the first place?
working alone he can open the mind to any manifestation?
The Allfather is so wise, he did lots of self gain! But not all of it was selfless, he understood the end was inevitable, he's having his fun while there's time. The more i read it shows doubt on the return of Baldr like maybe it's is Christiansted by Snorri's Edda. Hopefully we will learn through different works and arcology like Neil prices works, and Johanna Katrin Fridriksdottir, johan egerkrans shorts have given me a good look at different folklore, Carolyne Larrington has a different and cool view, and Crawford is adapted since his poetic edda, I'd insist on checking out these different works, though arcology alone price has taken us into shamanism and the sami, which our the ancestors of native Americans.
These ideas of odin from the sagas do you think some of the negative aspects could be christain influence?
They 100% are
Negative and positive aspects. Odin's development through the late Scandinavian Iron Age and Icelandic middle ages is through the assimilation of several religious figures.
Yes agreed thanks for the reply! Hope you are in great health
@@williamfreeman8197 I am indeed, thank you for asking. Are you well and thriving? Hope so!
I am doing my best you have inspired me when I'm not crazy busy at work ive became very spiritual over the past years watching your channel i started off a a christain then atheist and into left hand paths stuff eventually i found the gods and the spirituality of our ancestors i am a germanic polythiest and animist and have been working on learning the proto-germanic language for spiritual/rituals prayers etc. And using the instruments they would've used i want to create a blackened folk pagan band using proto-germanic. i recommend using a jaw harp in your music if you would like it's a instrument that has been used by countless cultures all over the world for 1000s of years i would love to learn ritual drum and and tagelharpa too i also use bullroars even older instrument.
In the land of the blind...the one eyed man is king. Beware he is the Wotan and if you are so possessed, it will lead to your downfall.
Yes but Odin use white magic for his son Baldur you can see it on the bracteate "Bohuslan" in Sweden, i don't think Odin is a "bad god or good god".
The problem with the focus on sources is that it sit ones in the frame in which we are out of time.
Modern heathen experiences should be considered as much as historical sources.
I'm sure the one making the content agrees, but many heathens have yet to sit with this.
Agreed.
If the soul is made up of multiple pieces wouldn’t it be more logical that bad things are more likely the result of a past action of one of your parts in stead of the fuckery of a god?
Heimdall creating humans? Where's that from?
13:22 so when Odin caused the loss of Baldur through decepti.... on wait, that was Loki who caused that loss, a loss that could not be restored.
The sources demonstrate that Odin was well aware that such an event would happen and was inevitable. He let it happen. The entire Völuspá is the past, present and future being revealed to Odin and in other poems he does horrible things to ensure fate is fulfilled. Loki, on the other hand, as The Trickster, does everything to ensure alternative fates come to being, to prevent the original planned fate.
I completely agree that the actions of the Trickster were necessary to avoid loss, but disagree about the interpretation of Odins actions. Without Odins choices, all couldn't have continued for Loki's action to bear fruit (through the three siblings). While the Fate in question was unavoidable, each and all parties still had to aspire to highest aspiration for complete loss to be avoided.
@@jramsdell1 it's no coincidence that Odin and Loki are the most spoken about in the sources. In a nutshell, it's the animistic view of Divine planning Vs the freedom of choosing in a multiplicity of outcomes created by the Trickster. The power of choice is strongly portrayed in animatic cultures and societies, where fate is never fixed, and is always cyclical, unlike the Abrahamic sense of linear time.
Does this mean that you do not see Odin and Loki as Divine, or extensions of Divinity? My limited exposure to Loki's choices show his choices portrayed as responses to consequences of his own actions (thus free choice/will) - but without quite learning completely the lesson inherent in making better choices, while Odins choices seem in response to seeing only destruction and in needing to avoid such with limited options available. Odin gave up sight to gain insight. What did the Trickster sacrifice of his own and for what gain?
@@jramsdell1 the thing is, this video isn't about my own experiences with the gods and personal spiritual development. This is about what is in the written sources. Through the study of Loki we see clear traces of The Trickster character of many animatic societies and cultures. There are several matches, which explains plenty concerning Loki and its role, as well as the Loki-Odin interactions. If modern heathens want to deal with Loki as a deity, and Odin as the creator/father, all good and well. I'm all for UPGs and spiritual journeys and experiences. However, the ways Nordic peoples of the past dealt with all these figures, is quite different from the modern interpretations.
Odin sounds like hed be really good at capitalism 😂
Awesome video! Odin is not the Christian god!
Hi everyone, does anyone know what's going on? Today is Mr.Arith's video day!!!!! Where!?
Wednesday, 2024 June 12th? What do you think?
One of the reasons I have never been drawn to work with Odin has been for a couple of reasons: I feel that he is often misunderstood with bare minimum of surface level knowledge about him. He seems to be one of the most highly glossed gods where he is made to be this Abrahamic or Hellenist Sky Daddy where people flock to him based on the clearly biased ways he has been portrayed by Snorri. The other reason is that I have never gotten a good vibe from him. I've never felt that his relationship is given freely. The gifting cycle just seemed....transactional. I dunno, but he's not interested in me, and I have never felt a level of trust with him.
The other gods seem more receptive. Thor feels protective and tenacious. I ask nothing of him but thank him for his protection that he seems to naturally give. With Freyja I ask her only to make me more receptive to spaces between, but I ask nothing directly in anyway short of hoping to know her better. Odin seems like a god one goes to for something. That's not where I am at with my relationship.
Quick VAR UMN note! Whatever you are doing with the drums on those tracks is incredibly tactile when enjoyed through bone conductive headphones! One of the songs came up on my "weekly new release" or whatever list on Spotify and the gym and I immediately knew it was one of yours without even looking at my phone. It was almost like a zap to my inner ears every time you hit that drum. It wasn't what I was expecting while doing squats, but I think it would be a really immersive way for those wanting to FEEL the music when they meditate. I highly recommend listening to it in such a way if you have headphones like that. Awesome.
Anything is justified when the objective is to prevent the destruction of all things and once again allow the cycle to restart. You have made me question whether that aspect of ragnarok was an invention by the powerful to justify their decisions tho. Either way, it would seem disrespectful to assume the gods don't change over the centuries like any sentient thing does. We now live in a time where deception is solely used for profit as opposed to being a survival skill to stop marauders from ending your everything.
Odino ha condiviso la conoscenza delle Rune e Donato l'idromele della poesia, i racconti sulle disgrazie di chi si fidava di lui non potrebbero essere state influenzate dal progredire del cristianesimo? Come peraltro è accaduto con altri culti👋
Amor. Odin é o Rei de Espadas. O controle da nossa mente. Sim passamos por tudo igual a mitologia, mas discordo de você em um ponto rsrs. Não vejo os filhos de Odin com infortúnios. Como Odin ele é a Razão, Rei de Espadas ele nos ensina de quem sofre não somos nós e sim o Ego. Então morremos sim, varias vezes a Desconstrução. Velhos pensamentos morrerm, velhas Espiritualidade morrerm, emoções morrerm. Tudo que não irá agregar mais em nosso caminho tem que morrer. Sentimos isso no físico também. Pk eu passei por isso. Para podermos renascer, temos que morrer, runa Eihwaz. Quando compreendemos que quem tem medo é o ego, quem sofre é o Ego, que se magoa é o Ego nós depertamos a nossa Real Essência ( Sowilo ) pk nós não somos o Ego, ele quer que acreditemos que somos ele mas não somos. Quando Odin chega na nossa vida tudo se transformar. Ficamos mais racionais, mais frios, ser frio não é ser maldoso e sim não se deixar corromper pelo meio, ate o nosso meio mesmo. E Odin ele nos protege e mantem nossas águas ( emoções) protegidas. Pk quando somos mais racionais, nada nos abala. Eu não vejo como infortúnio e sim uma benção, pois quando temos o controle de nossos pensamentos, o que vem de fora ou até de dentro que pode estar mal resolvido não nos abala, pk sabemos como ceifar, transmutar, curar e elevar. Odin te faz enxergar por trás do véu, alem de ser muito mais muito protetor. Falo por experiência e vivência 💜🐦⬛🐦⬛
Your only picking up yhe legend midway. See Arthur Lillie on Odin first being Gotama Buddha, the Gothic Guthan by which we have the title God
I thought you were leaving? Again? Was the leaving video just to get likes? I'm confused. Are you here, or are you leaving?
Don't know how many more times do I have to explain this. If people had watched the first 2 minutes of said video, they would have listen to me saying that I'm leaving social media but I will keep doing videos for UA-cam. That's what happened and I never left UA-cam. Just left my other social media networks such as Facebook.
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These ideas work well today, and were okay. But, in that era these were Gods, and none of the Gods were in any way of perfected character. Unlike the docile the Gods fought evil, and offered all hope, since all were too domesticated to stray, and too childlike and loving to not be slaves. So, these two GODS offer a hammer and nail, where the "good ones" tricked everyone into sleep states. The GODS then have no choice but, to go in and do their own triks, and both do tricks, and act as gods, pushing it all into non subjection to remove slavery. There is no other way to end subjection, but through bigger war, and the GODS did that, so change that idea, it is modern.
"Odins path of misfortune"?
Shouldn´t that be "peoples misfortune" because of the aristocracy misused Odin´s power and wisdom for egoistic gains?
Following Odins wisdom isn´t deception and should really provide fortune for everybody and everything in the creation.
The aristocracy did not misuse Odin's power and wisdom. Odin was first introduced in the North to Scandinavians by the aristocracy itself. Odin's development in the Scandinavian religious reality was through the aristocracy, destroying the cult to several native deities, assimilated into Odin.
Thanks for replying:
In 3:31 you said: "It´s actually Odin that represent a completely amoral personality in the myths".
I reject that as Odin represent Wisdom - so how do you come to that conclusion at all?
Brother, don't be comparing your misfortunes in life to the Christianized depiction of the Alfather and telling those who watch this channel, "this is right".
Your recent downfall doesn't have anything to do with the Alfather, but the trails of life becuase Odin is the teacher of life becuase he has gifted us understand and the capabilities to understand our suffering as human beings. He along with other God's also created the very ground you stand on, so don't say he "isn't a creation God" because the Alfather is.
Hate to do it brother, becuaee I've learned from you over the years but I can't watch you keep misleading or spreading false information. Gotta unsubscribe
Hello there. I do advise reading the sources, because that's what this video is about. It seems to me your judgment is clouded, because you are taking this as if it were a religious propaganda. If you have indeed watched my past works, you know it's nothing of the sort. This is about the surviving sources that clearly show us the path of misfortune of the followers of Odin in several poems and sagas. Literally, the written sources modern heathens hold on to, clearly show us the amoral deeds of Odin to achieve individual attainment. As for my recent "downfall", I don't know what you are talking about. My life this year is pretty good and better than I could have anticipated. I'm doing fine. Hope you are doing fine as well, best of luck. Farewell.
I'd be careful with the writings of the Sagas to no preclude the biases of the early Christian age. Your use of Gladr for example is a gift you still utilize which is a very close association of the Alfather. Those early works always show Odin with the sort of Geni effect. But Life itself isn't fair, life is very cruel and can be selfish. Odin is not a human being,but the spiritual understand of nature and your video doesn't seem to show that. My original point stands
@@sortofadm4764doesn't your use of the word "Alfather" imply your own closeness to christian sources/interpretation? 🤔
@@sandra.helianthus Depends on your interpretation. I believe since it is Odin that has given mankind breathe, he is then the father of all. Without this gift, all humans easily die (as you could imagine).
I know that Heimdall is referred in the poem of Voulspa and he is father of mankind and granting social order but to my understanding, Heimdall is the Son of Odin. To me, that means even to that; Odin is the father.
Odin is All knowing, even his demise. He is selfish and he won't stop for anything to prevent his death. But even when destruction like volcanoes or nuclear explosion or fall of civilizations, life still finds a way to prosper just as it has been for the Alfather.
The individual desire to attain knowledge for only the sake of the individual is a vain idea to place on Odin. He is the head of the table, the father, the doer, the breather of life. Yet we’re really going to compare his “amoral” ways of achieving it to his moral reasonings to begin with? Did he not use his knowledge to better his situation, to then better the situation of all the Aesir? You are interpreting, and you forget that that is all you are doing, since information is gained every day and old information can become obsolete over time.
I like your videos, but it is sad to see that you waste time all the time bashing so called "neopagans, asatruars,etc.". It is especially strange when your interpretation is more forced and more modern than the one you criticise.
Sorry, you are wrong about some things: Odin and Loki two sides of same deity. Odin is Wisdom of Consciousness. Loki represents ignorance. They are Wisdom and Ignorance ... Osiris and Set ... Two sides of every personality including that of the Universe. Odin is Supreme Consciousness. He has a dark side known as the Trickster. That's Loki.
Odin is the Creator aspect of Frey. Frey is the Lord. He has 3 aspects: Creator Sustainer and Destroyer .. Odin Thor and Loki. They are One Deity named Frey. They are Brahma Vishnu and Rudra in Hinduism, and Frey is called Shiva. They all represent Consciousness. The female deities represent Matter. Matter is Mother. Consciousness is Father. They are Lord and Lady, the Sun and Earth. Together they are the Mother Goddess ... Nerthus. All these names were different in the difference tribes, so a lot of confusion.
There were two sets of 3 deities representing Consciousness and Matter, Creation Sustainment and Destruction. And the Whole was/is Great Mother, All of Nature. She is called Maha Devi or the Brahman in Hinduism. In the North She was Nerthus etc. My ancestors in Mecklenburg called Her Frau Goda.
Odin is the Creator aspect of Supreme Consciousness. As such he is the Father not only of humans, but the entire Universe.
I don't see any interpretation of the myths that would lead you to believe that Loki represents ignorance. He is crafty, smart, witty, he knows what he needs to do to accomplish his goals, he even takes the very form he needs to do this. In one myth he even invents tools. None of this is ignorant.
Once you start combining gods like this it gets very difficult to draw the line on where to stop.
As a polytheist I strongly disagree with your perspective. But I do respect it.
Arith why are you not allowing me to continue my conversation in my own comment thread?
Dude, I can't pay attention to every comment all the time. If you are having trouble commenting on something, it's UA-cam that's behind it, not me. I'm literally not paying attention to whatever you are saying somewhere around here. UA-cam has several strict guidelines and many comments (even my own replies on my own videos) get lost, banned or are taken as spam or inappropriate. No idea what you are commenting, but many times comments disappear on account of the language used and/or if you are already marked as spam, inappropriate or have been reported elsewhere.
Okay fair enough
Be cautious about taking this individual's perspective seriously. Since announcing his departure, he's been introducing esoteric notions disguised as 'information,' all while admitting these are merely his opinions. It's worth noting he lacks certainty in his assertions. Moreover, despite being of Portuguese and mixed heritage, he attempts to persuade us of his sincerity. However, he blatantly disregards the racial origins of white culture and religion, arguing they are no longer tied to their ancestral people. He goes so far as to claim that an African child shares the same potential connection to Northern European deities as a white child. His attempt to blend historical truths with falsehoods is transparent. He underestimates our discernment, believing he can deceive us subtly. He dismisses any consideration of race's role in religion as a 'slippery slope,' yet fails to apply the same scrutiny to other indigenous groups and their faiths.
dafuq you talking about? >.> is everything alright at home?
Found the folkist.
Here's the thing, Arith has stated he is indeed "mixed race" and he shares N.Euro blood. Also take into consideration that the Celtic tribes spread as far to Portugal, the Celts sharing many religious ties to Germanic and Scandinavians.
So quite frankly your racism is unfounded in regards to him.
Now to address the part saying that an African can't share your views. Who's to say that Africans past soul life wasn't from somewhere in Europe. Many people around the world share accounts of having strange fascinations and even obsessions with other countries other than their homeland, which lead many people to believe their past life maybe from those areas?
No Frith no Folkists
@@michaeldoerksen2841 your assumption of my identification of him being Portuguese somehow implies I’m racist isn’t true. and it’s brought up to prove he isn’t full Germanic blood and is not a pure son of the Germanic progenitor. He will never be able to invoke those ancestral spirits because he doesn’t have the blood for it, simple as that.
Your second “ist” you label me with I’m proud to say is true I am a folklorist. Is that a problem? Being of the folk and to know your folks lore is natural and to worship your folk and to venerate the dead folk as well as celebrate folk festivals is healthy, natural, and found in all people around the world as being a natural phenomenon which occurs.
You believing an African thinks he’s a European is simply a naive fantasy. It doesn’t happen and knowledge of the separate cultures among their common folk is probably non existent for the most part even to this day. There is more occurrences of past life recalling within the same race than outside of it.
@@cothromgrimr161 Him being part N.Euro and more than likely with Celtic blood as well gives him every right to practice this folk tradition. Blood is blood, stop with your discrimination and accept that other people who aren't "full Germanic blood" can practice the tradition. My Rottweiler x Husky was exactly half and half according to his dna test, and yet still was able to partake in a home defense situation and a seperate personal defense situation. His part Husky never turned him into an aloof, non protective stereotypical Husky when those situations happened. His protective Rottie blood came through in full. Give it up, your arguement is weak AF.
The second part I have no issue with, in fact I completely agree with it, as it does happen all over the world. Doesn't mean you have the right to tell someone who has Swedish blood that he's wrong about what he practices. You're gatekeeping and that's all it is. His experiences he has touched on in older vids give him good reason to practice what he does. The old gods call to him regardless of his Portuguese blood. Just as my part Rottie gave into his protective nature when the time came.
It really isn't though. Soul migration maybe easier through bloodlines, but that doesn't mean someone can't experience it. There's more than enough documentaries around about past life, and soul migration of people who have profound dreams of places they've never been to. Or of people who've traveled the world and found somewhere thousands of miles from their birthplace being profoundly compelled to that location. It happens, get over it.
No Frith for Folkists
@@michaeldoerksen2841 you aren’t getting anywhere with the rhetoric of “BlOoD IsNt EvErYThInG”. Of course it absolutely is. It’s what defines you at to your very core regardless of your environment. It’s the motivation, the momentum, the multi generational hamingja to prosper yourself, your family and tribe. Again with the anti-folk talk is cringe and non pagan. Modern Marxist ideas spew from the mouth of arith with the false pretense of it being pagan. There is no logical benefit to allowing yourself to be changed from your blood and kin to another unless you had no choice via invasions/rape/genocide. It is again, HEALTHY, NATURAL, and GOOD to put your family first before another family, your kin first before another kin, and if you disagree you’re not a good family man or have traditional sense about you.
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