Lecture Demonstration | Prince Rama Varma and Amrutha Venkatesh |
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- An extremely crucial aspect that we have to focus on , 'Pronunciation', in all the aspects of Music .
I am thrilled to share the recording of this Lec-dem that Prince Rama Varma Sir and I did for Sri Parthasarathy Swami Sabha on 21.12.24.
Here is the entire lec-dem that many in the audience that day wanted to listen to again.
Excellent rendition. I am a senior citizen & Sanskrit student from my childhood. In other language krithis also Sanskrit words are used. Very very apt that mouth is not closed. Literally I cry when I hear song in Kalyani Bhajare re Chitha. In Anupallavi Nithya Kalyanim, most musicians pronounce Nitha Kalyani
For many years I was longing for this type of demonstration. Today I feel that some musicians like you give importance to lyrics also.
Mahaans compose songs with Bhakthi & hence Bhava & pronunciation are very important.
Really I thank you both for bringing out the importance of lyrisc also.
GREAT WORK
A big thanks to Parthasarathi Swami Sabha, Chennai for organising this lecture demo on a very BOLD TOPIC. All pranams to this Guru Shishya (Prince Rama Varma ji and Vidushi Amrita ji) for taking up this much needed topic for lecture demo which is VERY VERY useful to present and future generations. This topic shall be understood by every (Carnatic) Musician, Rasika. Expecting coverage of more such important topics from this duo 🙏
Pure Gold! Must be mandatory viewing / listening for anyone aspiring to be a musician; equally valuable for the audience. Kudos. Soar ever higher!
What an intelligent artist Amrutha is, I am awed by her knowledge of multiple langauages. Amazing job.
Absolutely brilliant presentation by Shrimathi Amrutha and Sri Rama Varma Sir, Pranams
Excellent. Thanks for highlighting the importance of lyrics. Great composers were bhaktas first then music composers. Saahitya is at the heart of these compositions
So amazingly good! Ranks as one of my most favorite lec-dems. The sheer number of specific and incredibly valuable takeaways makes it so! Very well done, Prince Rama Verma ji and Amrutha Venkatesh ji 🙏🙏
Excellent topic ! Amazing presentation. More power to addressing these points in carnatic music... high time people wake up to the truth of pronunciation!!
Very very good presantation.... 🙏
Thank you very much sasikiran sir this very very great demonstration programme. Very very useful for every music singers ,students .koti Namaskarangal.🙏🙏🙏🙏
What a lec dem.... absolutely fantastic....Golden showers on both the vidwans.....
Amrutha ma'am and Varma sir ...pranams
Quite an elaborate demonstration of the mistakes commonly arising due to lack of familiarity with the language other than one's own mother tongue. Excellent work by them.
Thank you so much. This video must be seen and heard by every performing musician!
🙏🙏🙏🙏 blessed with this lecture
Legends - Meaning of larger than Life - that’s Prince and Amrutha ❤❤Music revolution 2025 ❤Platform to showcase
To ALL!!!! For cerebration of Life vis Music !!!
Thank u for You Tube exposure ❤🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Coming from the same background thoroughly enjoying this lecture. Amrita has blossomed into a Proficient Musician, proud to say under Elite Gurus. As an Ardent Rasika in my Seventies, take pleasure in wishing well this teaming with Prince Rama Verma . He is so unique in simplicity, sense of humor and so adorable in every way. His Mimicry is CLASSIC. ❤
CLASSICAL SINGING HAS BECOME STEREOTYPICAL, IT HAS BECOME RARE TO WATCH LEC DEMs. Thanks for this . Excellent info and interpretations. Wake up call that we should learn more on the language side. Sanskrit knowledge is a must. More in the future please.
I enjoyed all the aspects of the lecture. It is very difficult to demonstrate mistakes and Amrutha teacher - you did an excellent job! That shows how great a teacher you are. Languages, composers, variety of mistakes - wonderful organization/ content in the lecdem as well. Prince sir was at his amusing best - loved the mimicry he did in places. Thank you so much for sharing this!
Finally, Rama Varma speaks on a topic that is timely.
Kollengode S Venkataraman
Very educative. Thank you both
What an erudite singer and a simple scholar is Sri Rama Varma from a royal family !!! Hats off to him. Thanks for upload. Well rendered and enlightening kacheri.
Listening to the point on importance of breaking lines and words in such a way that the meanings of the sahithya are protected, I just wanted to do sashttaanga namaskaaram to both of you !
Fantastic effort laden with humour and information. Thank you 🙏🏼
Long awaited video Madam.Thank you for sharing. 👌👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
What a wonderful insightful session. Prince Rama Varma sir’s sense of humor & his skills to imitate the stalwarts & still bringing out the importance of sahithya shuddhi & uccharippu is really commendable.
Amrutha- u urself are an ocean of knowledge❤. I loved ur interesting pointers and the way u sang & showed the corrections.
Kudos & Namaskarams to u both for such a wonderful lec - dem🎉
Great justice to Dhaatu and Maatu❤lovely Amrutha👌especially Govilda Govilda in many many songs - not even RaGa and such musicians pay heed to this; so nice to see that you have addressed Uccharaaranam aspects … very useful; respects to RV sir
Fantastic presentation.
I attended and enjoyed this Lecdem.Thank you so much for uploading the same madam.
Very nicely explained
thanks for lecture
Well summed up by Sasikiran Sir. An Amazing Learning experience for all from 2 Versatile, Unassuming Connociers of Carnatic music. PRANAMS
We need more of these types of lec dems.
Excellent lecdem! I just want to add my observation about a current pronunciation trend. Tamil words like கற்று (kaRRu) சுற்றி (cuRRi) and குற்றம் (kuRRam) are traditionally pronounced with an alveolar “t”, where the tongue is placed at the root of the teeth. The current trend, especially among younger singers, is to pronounce these words with a retroflex “t”, where the tongue touches the roof of the mouth in a curled up fashion. Most Indian languages excluding Tamil and Malayalam lack the alveolar stops, so it may be natural for speakers north of Tamil Nadu to mispronounce them. However, even Tamil speakers appear to be unaware of the distinction. It is refreshing to hear older musicians and musicians of the past pronounce this consonant correctly. A recording of Smt. MLV singing the thiruppavai கற்று கறவை (kaRRu kaRavai) comes to mind, where the alveolar “t” occurs in every line due to dvitiyakshara prasam.
Excellent !!!!
Thanks for uploading this lec dem
Such an eye opener to students
The most important lec dem in today's Carnatic music, id say this confidently. Need all famous artists, budding singers, Gurus and even students who just started their music journey to imbibe these values.
Ive noticed the pronunciation aspect in Manaviyalakincharadate also... its Manavi-Ala and not Manavyala as people say
Wonderful presentation
Very useful tips, thank you so much 🙏
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very informative gracefully presented. It sounds so good when they give actual pronunciation. All points are valid, especially i like the way, how sir spoke about the Varnams. Thanks for posting this.
Rana Varma makes it hilarious.
Excellent ❤
Thank you so much for uploading this 🙏🙏🙏
This was a wonderful topic! My kids have asked me many times on why singers (in recordings) are mispronouncing things on some of the exact same examples you gave here (I tell them just to be mindful when pronouncing). I was born and raised in the USA, as are my kids, and we try to pronounce things carefully whenever learning and singing carnatic compositions -- thank you for this informative session.
Arputham arputham thanks so much for uploading this event was jn the morning hours I was travelling to office I missed..but I thank u for putting this in youtube. Next time I will surely make it
Beautiful! This lecture should be given to musicians and not to rasikas. I have already noted in FB major problems changing the whole meaning, such as distorting 'raghuvaraa aprameya' to 'raghuvaraa pramEyA' and the like. Problems come often because people don't take pains to understand the meaning of the lyrics before singing and also because mistakes are passed on through paramparas.
Excellent session. Pronounciation is as important as singing. 🎉🎉🎉
Wonderful topic Teachers 🙏
Remember Listening to MDR Live when I was 12 . Singing Vanarothama Sahitha - he had the audacity to point finger at the front row men, of course in lighter vein. Even Chembai used such hilarious moments . They were at ease with the audience .
Very well compiled session....like many skip the consonants
Such Error pointing discussions should come out frequently.
Excellent. Thank you.
Superb
Thank you so much..
This lec-dem is a must watch for any musician. But I wonder how many seniors will introspect with open mind & correct themselves. It's really frustrating to hear mistakes like RAAHAM instead of RAAGAM and MURUHA for MURUGA.
Another point to note is instead of DAIVAM we hear the pronunciation DEIVAM 😢
Top notch lec dem akka
Humble to earth
For years together I was waiting for someone to come forward, correct the Tamilian way of singing Endharo Mahaanubhavulu..Andhariki Vandanamulu..which is sung as Entha..Roma ...hanubhavulu...Anthari ..kee eee etc
There should be correct demarcation of words at correct time with space . Other wise the meaning itself will change as in the krithi Sangeetha Gynanamu Bakthi Vina . There is a joke where a clerk misplaced the sign coma (,) in the sentence HANG HIM, NOT LET HIM GO. Actually the judge wrote HANG HIM NOT , LET HIM GO. Note the placing of the sign by which the entire meaning change drastically. Same thing may happen in singing as well. The Lec dem is an educative vedio for upcoming performers. Super .
It is important to learn to pronounce just the lyrics first as if a poem was being read out. All songs are basically poems or conversations. "Chalamelaraa saaketha Raama? ", "Raama ! Nee Samaanamevaru?", "Marivere Gatiyevvaramma?, "Enna Tavam Seidhanai Yashoda?", "Baaro Krishanayya, Ninna bhaktara manegeega", "Pillangoviya Cheluva Krishnana elli nodidiri?", "Mandasmitha Mukhaambujam, Mandaradhara karaambujam, Nandakara Nayanaambujam, Sundaratara Padaambujam" All these are musical sambhaashana or Stuti of the deity which the composer was telling to the god or goddess. As Amrutha Venkatesh ma'am rightly explained the lyrics of Jagadaanadakaaaraka's Srusthisthithyankaara line, it is important to know the sandhi viccheda of the words in the lyrics in order for the singer to really understand the meaning of the lyrics. This Lec Dem is an eye opener for many unnecessary mistakes which non-native singers do to our divine songs. Thanks a lot for the two masters for continuously working to improve Carnatic music by bringing it back to its roots 🙏🙏🙏
Wonderful ❤
Whatever Vidushi Amrutha said towards the end is 100% correct
Super🙏🙏🙏
44:56 Jagat Aanandakaaraka...is generally sang as Jagataa...nandakaaraka
O My ..Atlast someone is there to express the correct way to pronounce..🎉
Very well presented, it is important that all Carnatic musicians should learn some basic Samskritam, Telugu.
Kannada, Tamil & Malayalam so that they get the pronunciation right and do justice to the kirtanas and the composer.
Enna Raham 😀
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In Tamil to change the pronounciation of
En Ananda mogana venu gana.........
(In alai paayude kanna.....)
That should be pronounced as Mohana
Fantastic.. overdue.. pronunciation is not considered important at all by the whole community... pronunciation gets stepmotherly no no no orphan like treatment...
pronunciation...if it were a person...that person would be pained,.. tortured... would weep.. musicians would do well to listen to this lecdem end to end...would be actually doing themselves a favour by doing so...
Madam,
Before practicising, the correct meaning of the all words sholud be learnt, what ever may be the language. That learning will solve this type of misakes.
While doing raga alap, when na is used and ri is added to na, it becomes nari..which can be avoided.