I have no idea why your little channel popped up this right in my suggested videos, and I certainly wasn't in the market for a muffler, but this is a great video. Thanks for the unexpected knowledge on mufflers!
@@nickthevanman9011 For sure, my Gambler 500 van has a single exhaust with a cat and a thrush muffler on it, my el camino has no name glasspacks and one of my trucks has a set of Thrush's as well. Compliments of Advance Auto parts becaus I had a ton of speed perks saved up lol.
I heard one time that turbo mufflers were invented and first used on the Chevy Corvair Spyder, which was turbocharged hence the name. Don't know if it's true though.
Lets not forget about the dynomax race bullets. I had a set on my ls swapped c1500. Long tubes into the race bullets was stupid loud. Had I kept the truck, I would of swapped them out for sure.
I got a Monte Carlo with a modified 6.0 with aftermarket heads cam and intake long tube headers with dual 50 series flowmasters. It’s quiet at idle and sounds like crap to me. But it sounds pretty good under acceleration. I have a Silverado with a 4.8 with a stage 2 truck cam long tubes cat delete and a single dynomax 3” in/ dual 2/12” out and it sounds insane. It sounds awesome at idle and sounds like a race car under acceleration. Now I’m debating on getting dynomax mufflers for the monte
Id say Flowmaster would be most popular. Dynomax get brought in thru Australia. There are local companies still making absorbtion type mufflers like the Red and Purple ones you showed. Here we call that type regardless of brand Hotdogs. Ive run them all and prefer a balance pipe then Flowmasters and a short Hotdog to knock the drone back. Ran 3 inch Hotdogs only on a ute I had and power was great but if you snapped the throttle it tended to shatter the window of the house next to my driveway. Missus didnt like that too much.
The thrush welded is a good compromise between say the 40 series and the thrush turbo. Louder than the turbo, not as loud as the loud as the 40 series, and a lot less drone than the 40 series. The 40 series is a great sounding muffler if the cabin drone doesn't bother you. On a site note, holley is the parent company of a lot these mufflers...
Wow, Nick, great information, and dead-on accurate too! I respect the heck out of you, even if you do love the soul-sucking "Black Cat firecrackers in a culvert" sound of a Flowmaster. ;)
LOL I'm staying with my glasspack. Though I might switch it for an actual cherry bomb sometime. And it's exactly why you said. That's what my dad had on our old wood truck. That truck is the reason I have classic rig now and that's how it needs to sound in my head.
too bad all of these are "illegal" now in NYS. thanks to kathy hochul.... spent 6 years on my project deciding on how my 5.0 would sound was like the opening night of a symphony orchestra AFTER building an entire opera house. I still hear loud cars.. its mostly the ricers with pop and crackle that ruined it and caused it not so much V8s or classics.. but yeah they want to be able to not pass you on inspection for any muffler designed to be louder than stock. I wrote her a nasty email. But my setup are shorties with internal ceramic coating ( i plan to internally coat as much as possible then external paint on the pipes as well ) high flow cats ( 400 cell so not too insane ) , X pipe ... then that is all 2.5 inch then I have 3 inch thrush welded ( FM 40 basically ) . 5.0 with welded / 2 chamber muffler and a decent cam is the soundtrack of the 90s. I'm also doing a side exit I think through body on my conversion above the running board... but having 3 inch on the muffler and 2.5 inch allows the exhaust to have the proper velocity to not lose low end/torque but open up enough to lose some restriction. I should have maybe had the cats open up to 3 inch but oh well. But yeah theyre restricting us to 90 db but obnoxious Harleys get over 100 for a limit ... I think where I live most cops dont give a crap unless you were recklessly driving to begin with. I'm still pissed off though.
Dont like noise. I would rather have an expansion chamber were I need it and run two 3" after the chamber into one 4 inch at the rear. Your thoughts? I do like the rumble just not the drone.
Use a magnaflow or Borla oval case muffler , and add a resonator ahead of it , use a magnaflow round case for that. It'll keep it fairly quiet but being all straight through youll hear the turbo over everything else and not put any restriction behind it for reduced turbo lag.
@@nickthevanman9011 I was thinking about doing something like that. The stock exhaust has a resonator at the front, a resonator that looks like a muffler before the rear axle and a huge muffler after the axle. Thanks!
One of the car magazines did a test, maybe Hot Rod back in the early 80s. The old GM designed turbo muffler won. Not surprising when you think about it. GM engineers designed those for the turbo Corvair vs after market companies making mufflers that sound cool to stupid people. People literally pick cam shafts based on how they sound these days so they're going to want mufflers that sound cool too. If someone actually came up with a quiet muffler that didn't loose any horsepower it wouldn't sell very well.
@@nickthevanman9011 Yup not enough noise. 😂 Worked at a tune-up shop in the mid 80s with chassis dynos, the loudest cars almost never made much power. Most power I saw while there was a completely stock 70 Chevelle SS454 , it literally wasn't any louder than a station wagon. But that's not a real accurate assessment because we were a cheap place to get on a dyno. The results in a shop that catered to a more affluent (and smarter) crowd might be different. Our crowd seemed to loose power the more they worked on their cars. 😂
I have no idea why your little channel popped up this right in my suggested videos, and I certainly wasn't in the market for a muffler, but this is a great video. Thanks for the unexpected knowledge on mufflers!
Thank you!
I've always been a "slap the cheapest humanly possible glasspack on it" kind of guy lol
Lol no shame! Bang for the buck
@@nickthevanman9011 Exactly, plus I've never had anything that had any significant enough power to even consider flow restrictions.
@@CrazyWoody1989 I'm in the same boat, probably why turbo mufflers and even single exhaust systems never seemed to hurt my stuff too bad.
@@nickthevanman9011 For sure, my Gambler 500 van has a single exhaust with a cat and a thrush muffler on it, my el camino has no name glasspacks and one of my trucks has a set of Thrush's as well. Compliments of Advance Auto parts becaus I had a ton of speed perks saved up lol.
I heard one time that turbo mufflers were invented and first used on the Chevy Corvair Spyder, which was turbocharged hence the name. Don't know if it's true though.
You are correct! They were designed out of necessity for packaging and to mute the noise from the turbocharger on the corvair Spyder turbo. Very good!
Lets not forget about the dynomax race bullets. I had a set on my ls swapped c1500. Long tubes into the race bullets was stupid loud. Had I kept the truck, I would of swapped them out for sure.
Dynomax Race Bullets are my favorite race mufflers, and probably the best for power. A great choice in my humble opinion.
Good content. Love the comparison
Thanks Shooter! Hey...Red Lobster...my treat! (Sorry I always wanted to say that to shooter 😂)
Sage advice, buddy. This is the informational content the UA-cam-sphere needs more of! Keep it up.
Thanks bro!
I got a Monte Carlo with a modified 6.0 with aftermarket heads cam and intake long tube headers with dual 50 series flowmasters. It’s quiet at idle and sounds like crap to me. But it sounds pretty good under acceleration. I have a Silverado with a 4.8 with a stage 2 truck cam long tubes cat delete and a single dynomax 3” in/ dual 2/12” out and it sounds insane. It sounds awesome at idle and sounds like a race car under acceleration. Now I’m debating on getting dynomax mufflers for the monte
I’m going to try and do a comparison video
Thrush mufflers were my favorite back in the late 80's and into the 90's. Tried dyno max,they were good as well.
Dynomax is my all time favorite, love super turbos
100% with you on the Dynomax.
One and only downside with Dynomax units is the price, well here in NZ it is anyway.
@@matui6983 what are the popular, locally available mufflers in New Zealand?
Id say Flowmaster would be most popular.
Dynomax get brought in thru Australia.
There are local companies still making absorbtion type mufflers like the Red and Purple ones you showed. Here we call that type regardless of brand Hotdogs.
Ive run them all and prefer a balance pipe then Flowmasters and a short Hotdog to knock the drone back.
Ran 3 inch Hotdogs only on a ute I had and power was great but if you snapped the throttle it tended to shatter the window of the house next to my driveway. Missus didnt like that too much.
The thrush welded is a good compromise between say the 40 series and the thrush turbo. Louder than the turbo, not as loud as the loud as the 40 series, and a lot less drone than the 40 series. The 40 series is a great sounding muffler if the cabin drone doesn't bother you. On a site note, holley is the parent company of a lot these mufflers...
Good to hear on the thrush, I always liked the quality of their mufflers. Love Thrush Turbos too
You look exactly like someone i would expect to be the go-to guy for everything in the shop.
This was a very good video. Thanks for the info ☮️
Wow, Nick, great information, and dead-on accurate too! I respect the heck out of you, even if you do love the soul-sucking "Black Cat firecrackers in a culvert" sound of a Flowmaster. ;)
I really appreciate that Brian, thank you!
LOL I'm staying with my glasspack. Though I might switch it for an actual cherry bomb sometime. And it's exactly why you said. That's what my dad had on our old wood truck. That truck is the reason I have classic rig now and that's how it needs to sound in my head.
A 360 into true duals with cherry bombs and axle dumps is the idle I remember.
I have no moral issues sacrificing 10-15hp for the sound , of lack there of I desire. Totally understand.
too bad all of these are "illegal" now in NYS. thanks to kathy hochul.... spent 6 years on my project deciding on how my 5.0 would sound was like the opening night of a symphony orchestra AFTER building an entire opera house. I still hear loud cars.. its mostly the ricers with pop and crackle that ruined it and caused it not so much V8s or classics.. but yeah they want to be able to not pass you on inspection for any muffler designed to be louder than stock. I wrote her a nasty email. But my setup are shorties with internal ceramic coating ( i plan to internally coat as much as possible then external paint on the pipes as well ) high flow cats ( 400 cell so not too insane ) , X pipe ... then that is all 2.5 inch then I have 3 inch thrush welded ( FM 40 basically ) . 5.0 with welded / 2 chamber muffler and a decent cam is the soundtrack of the 90s. I'm also doing a side exit I think through body on my conversion above the running board... but having 3 inch on the muffler and 2.5 inch allows the exhaust to have the proper velocity to not lose low end/torque but open up enough to lose some restriction. I should have maybe had the cats open up to 3 inch but oh well. But yeah theyre restricting us to 90 db but obnoxious Harleys get over 100 for a limit ... I think where I live most cops dont give a crap unless you were recklessly driving to begin with. I'm still pissed off though.
You may try a pair of 50 series delta flows... Or a pair of Dynomax Super Turbos along with an x pipe
Just subed, hope to see you at the NNN 2023
Thank you for your sub! I appreciate it
Dont like noise. I would rather have an expansion chamber were I need it and run two 3" after the chamber into one 4 inch at the rear. Your thoughts? I do like the rumble just not the drone.
What kind of vehicle? For packaging purposes
Does anyone know how to make a 4 cylinder turbo sound good without making it terribly loud and raspy? I thought maybe a magnaflow but not really sure.
Use a magnaflow or Borla oval case muffler , and add a resonator ahead of it , use a magnaflow round case for that. It'll keep it fairly quiet but being all straight through youll hear the turbo over everything else and not put any restriction behind it for reduced turbo lag.
@@nickthevanman9011 I was thinking about doing something like that. The stock exhaust has a resonator at the front, a resonator that looks like a muffler before the rear axle and a huge muffler after the axle. Thanks!
Muffler deletes is where it's at..not
Unfortunately that's what all the common folk in town want it seems.
One of the car magazines did a test, maybe Hot Rod back in the early 80s. The old GM designed turbo muffler won. Not surprising when you think about it. GM engineers designed those for the turbo Corvair vs after market companies making mufflers that sound cool to stupid people. People literally pick cam shafts based on how they sound these days so they're going to want mufflers that sound cool too. If someone actually came up with a quiet muffler that didn't loose any horsepower it wouldn't sell very well.
David Vizard did, the Sonic Turbo. It's no longer made.
@@nickthevanman9011 Yup not enough noise. 😂
Worked at a tune-up shop in the mid 80s with chassis dynos, the loudest cars almost never made much power. Most power I saw while there was a completely stock 70 Chevelle SS454 , it literally wasn't any louder than a station wagon. But that's not a real accurate assessment because we were a cheap place to get on a dyno. The results in a shop that catered to a more affluent (and smarter) crowd might be different. Our crowd seemed to loose power the more they worked on their cars. 😂
If liking the way big camshafts and loud mufflers sound is stupid then you can call me a straight up idiot
@@jmullis78ify OK