CI "Fishbeard" Twin Fin Surfboard Review by Noel Salas Ep 97
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- Опубліковано 2 лют 2020
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In this episode I put the new Fishbeard twin fin by CI through the paces. The model is a blend of the Neck Beard 2 from the middle to the nose of the board and the back third is a twin fin fish design.
The Fishbeard offers excellent performance in tight transitions like a high performance short board (HPSB) due to it's sleek outline in the nose area. I pushed this Twin Fin like a HPSB every chance I got and it did NOT disappoint. The Fishbeard carries excellent down the line speed, great rail to rail transitions, and flow.
I highly recommend the Fishbeard for Intermediate - Pro Level surfers in 1-6' Surf. Beyond the 6' wave range still needs to be tested as I think this model would be epic in 6-8' point breaks.
This model performs best ridden longer and narrower compared to your typical Twin Fin Fish. If you loved your NB2 then go roughly the same size.
My height: 5'9"
My Weight: 160 lb or 72.5 kg
Custom Board dimensions tested in this review:
5'4" x 18 7/8 x 2 1/4 Liters 24.9 (PU / Poly)
5'5" x 18 7/8 x 2 1/4 Liters 25.5 (PU / Poly)
Britt Merrick's Height: 6'6"
Weight: 220 lb or 99 kg
Board DIMS:
6'0" x 20 1/2 x 2 3/4 Liters 36.7
Fin recommendations:
Futures Fins: Al Merrick Keels (Excellent hold and projection)
Futures Fins: EN Twin Fins (Quick pivot in tight transitions) - Фільми й анімація
Another epic one Noel, thanks mate. Very intersting RE: lenght discussion and having Brett was just cherry and choco on top of the ice cream, thanks man.
Great review! Thank you for sharing. I especially appreciate the tip that if I am stuck between two stock dimensions, go with the longer one. I am 5'10 145 lbs and typically like a bit more volume in my boards, so I'll go with the 5'8" stock dims. I currently use the Lost classic Round Nose Fish 5'7" 28.77 L as my go-to board, but when its grovel conditions I feel a little bogged down. I am super excited to pick up the Fishbeard!
Great review Noel and team! Love the detail!
Ripping! Another great review with some important info. I was stuck between 2 sizes and you guys gave us the info to get the right ride. I've been stuck on keel fins recently and this looks like the perfect addition to the quiver. Thanks always Noel!
Incredible review as usual! Loved it so much that I now have 2. Much thanks!
🔥🔥🔥
Another great review! Thanks!
what a epic review Sir Noel! well emphasize.
my custom fishbeard with spinetek is 12 weeks away. super stoked to give it a go. epic review as always🤙
Sick... let me know how it goes for you. I highly recommend my HP Keeps on the Fishbeard... next level performance. Check them out here.
www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/fins/products/surf-n-show-hp-keels-twin-fins
I got one of these couple months ago...it was shaped for dane reynolds...it's a really good board specially living in florida gets plenty of speed and nice off the top action
Another smashing review!!
Enjoy the level of details and bit of humor thrown in. Always have to rewatch these videos several times but have to remind myself to hit likes. For years I just lurked watched no likes on any videos just watching like I would television
Thanks for that review of the Fish beard🤙
Great review! Thanks!
Great review! Saw one of these in person today and they look amazing. Wondering your thoughts on the FB vs. the Rocket Wide with the twin fin + trailer setup? I have the RW in that configuration and love it, but need something new. Also familiar with fishes. I'm in Florida, so mainly 1-3 ft beach break mush
Bold City Home Inspections FB is so fun... totally different ride compared to the RW.
Hey awesome review! I'm tossing up between getting the fish beard or the Hayden Shapes Misc. could you tell me the differences you found between the two? and which one offers bigger wave potential?
Always bringing the great content! Can you please do one on the the CI Twin Pin? I had a 5”6 CI retro fish and want to get another twin fin and can’t decide between the Fish Beard or the Twin Pin.
Hi Noel, great review as always. How r the rails? Pinched, boxy or standard 60/40?
great review 😎
Hey Noel, your reviews are so good, thanks for putting out so many great videos! I was wondering which is your favourite fish? I have been thinking about the Black Baron or the Fishbeard... which would you recommend? ( I can only get one board unfortunately 😭) Thanks again
I prefer the Fishbeard... more high performance outline. It does not Care ch up front in the nose are.
You should try Xanadu, living legend!
Amazing reviews! Tkx bro
Hi Noel
Great review really excited about this board about to order one. Would you go PU or Spintek?
Keep up the great work
Cheers
Thanks for another great review , waiting on my custom fish beard just got email it’s glassed can’t wait 🙌🏽
How's the board going for you Steve?
How’s that board steve
Stevo! How’s that bloody board maaate
You rock up your favourite spot, the waves are clean, chest to head high with some curve and punch to them, you have two boards in your car, the Fish Beard and the Seaside.
Which one do you grab?
Woz & Nic Fishbeard... I want more performance with the extra rail line and performance in the pocket. If it’s high tide and a bit mushy I want the Seaside...
Flate Earth
Hey Noel, thanks for another great review. I have seen a couple of spine-tek fish beards around. Do you think those could work better than the PU versions you tested?
toubutey I just got a Stock 5’5” Spinetek FB and it’s epic. I even like it in overhead surf!!!
Great reviews, thank you. Any noticeable limitations? I’m looking for a daily driver but my local breaks are fast and heavy and we often get big swells. Is there a wave type that you think this wouldn’t do well in? Thanks!
Tyler Gingras Big heavy surf will challenge you on this board.
Noel’s surfing always looks good on a merrick
Probably muscle memory or something
Hey Noel I’m stuck between the 5’6, 26.4 litters and 5’7 , 27.7 litters surfing ny , nj . I usually use 27.0 flat can’t decide which stock board to choose from. I’m 5’7 about 145 pounds intermediate level thank great video !
Antonio Principe You can go Stock 5’6” 26.4 in Spinetek EPS and it will float like 27, or go PU 5’6” at 26.4 stock and it will go good too. The Spinetek will go better
another excellent review. How would you compare it to the Rocket Wide - looks like it has a very similar outline ?
Roger Pye No real comparison to the RW in board design and they surf nothing alike.
Nice review 👌
How would you compare this board to the ci twin fin? I’m debating on which one I should buy!
Hey Noel, your surfings looking great in this one. It seems like a great time to by buying boards from Al Merrick and pyzel with soo many great designs. What's your thoughts on main differences on the CI fishbeard, CI neck beard and Pyzel astro pop?
Jose Ande 3 Completely different designs with nothing in common except wave range. The NB2 is a Small wave performance board / Daily driver that goes best in 2-6’ surf. It’s fast, agile, and wants to boost. The Fishbeard is a performance Twin fin that shreds in 1-6’ surf that draws completely different lines compared to the NB2 due to it being a Twin Fin only... with no pivot fin and it has a fish tail. The AP is a performance Fish for 1-4’ surf. It shreds in multiple fin setup options and grovels really well in gutless surf. These 3 boards surf nothing a like and I would not compare them to each other.
@@surfnshowreviews7777thanks for the insights noel, all super interesting boards: my savings account is getting anxious. Great to see that your fine tuning your ideal dimensions, this is something most of us average Joe's really find hard to do when buying new so your doing some great work helping us figure out what dims will work for each board. Come for a surf trip in NZ!!
Thanks for an awesome review. My recent board history: Pod(2x)->Neck Beard(2x)->Sampler(current). I am starting to get really stoked on the Fishbeard but I never ridden a twinny. Don't want to drop a ton of cash on a fin setup I'm not exposed to. Thought and suggestions? Continue to make great reviews!
Jessie Asuncion Justbuy one pair of Twin Fins... get the Al Merrick Keels. Best Twins to date in my book
@@surfnshowreviews7777 how about the machado Keels for this board?
@@jonathanmuir6521 My HP Twins & HP Keels are the best on the Fishbeard. Check them both out here.
surfnshow.com/collections/fins-1
@@jonathanmuir6521 Not sure about the Machado Keels….
@@jonathanmuir6521 Not sure there is enough hold backside
Hey Noel, appreciate the breakdown where did you find those surfboard racks you had them on @ 1:10 in the video? cheers!
Those are called Ghost Racks
How does it compare in terms of paddling, stability and down the line speed to the Sampler? Interesting how it felt better longer.
bodhi tree Sampler might paddle a little better but it’s close. Speed wise... FB seems faster.
I have the 5.10 fishbeard.. I love it but was thinking of getting a centre plug installed so I can use a nubster fin for extra stability?
What's your thoughts noal?
I think that’s great idea...
Hi Noel, Great informative review as always. I have a question for you, I am about the same weight as you so if you wanted this type of board but as a groveller for surfing in small, weak waves around waist to max chest high would you go a bit more volume than your standard HP shortboard?
martinwajda I would go Spinetek with same liters. If you don’t like EPS then go up maybe 1/2 liter
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks Noel
Board looked so good under your feet you definitely have gotten better at riding twinnies! Also Ik it’s an old fun but I’ve been looking to buy the Ando Blackstix but are there better options now since those came out a while ago?
Noah Stone The Ando’s have too much flex for me. When I push them hard my turns are inconsistent and unpredictable. I really like the Jack Freestone Generation series. A bit stiffer so more predictable and better consistency.
Surf n Show Reviews thnx Noel appreciate it 🤙🏼
Awesome review, thing looks sick, I have a black baron that I have been really stoked on recently but the thing can not handle any overhead surf. Do you think it would be worth trying keel fins in it instead of the power twin fins? Or do you think just fully upgrading to the fishbeard for bigger surf is better?
Joey Churchin Get the Al Merrick Keep fins first. You will love them in both boards. After you get the Keel fins sell a different board in your quiver and get the FB so you have two sick Twinies and then you can ride them both and make a solid decision. That’s what I would do.
The FB will handle bigger surf for sure... make sure you get it in PU for bigger surf.
Thanks man!
What up noel! Watching this review again and wondered if you trade your boards back in or what?
Natural Born Reeler All the boards we review are ours to keep. We sell some and keep others for future show board comparisons and fin testing.
10:32 BEST EVER, Soul Brothers bahaha
Hey Noel ! thank you very much for your great reviews ! :D
How would you compare the fishbeard to the hayden misc ?
thank you
Fishbeard has a more high performance outline keeping the nose free from catching through your carves. I like the Fishbeard better due to its high performance outline.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thank you very much for reply and for your great help ! :)
Hey Noel what’s cracking
Are you looking at doing a review on the el tomo ?
Keep up the good work
Cheers
Daniel Thomas Yes... still waiting for boards. Firewire seems to be sold out. Hopefully soon... sorry
Great review as always! Who’s the dog though? She looks like she’s enjoying a sunny patch in your living room.
Ferdinand Arcinue That’s Roxxy... and yes she is chasing the sunny patch.
off topic question .. can or will you ever get your hands on any chilli surfboards ? would love to see the hot knife or rarest bird .
stretch13 9 I ordered a couple Hot Knifes 3 months ago. Not my fault sorry. They look epic too. Just waiting on the folks at Chilli.
Hey mate, great review. I love my twin keel fish but am looking for something with a little more performance without getting another HPSB. I’d like to give the spinetek version a run but not totally sure on volume. I’m 90kg and surf any day I can. Maybe 5’11? Cheers 🤙
I say 36.5-38.5 is a good liter range for you. Spinetek EPS will float like 0.5 liters more than PU. Example.... If a boards volume says 38.5 then it will float like 39 in EPS.
Surf n Show Reviews ok great thanks Noel
I saw Dane Gudauskas ride it with a round tail, how do you think that would ride compared to the swallow? And do you think channels would work well with this board?
Mahon Walsh The Round tail could be really fun.. just adds a bit more hold and wants to carve more. Channels... hmm not sure. Could be good or it might offer too much hold especially with theAM Keels. I’m sure you would have to do some fin testing to dial it. Sounds like fun to me...
Hey Noel! Great review! Your surfing looks awesome on it. Any chance of you doing a review on a Firewire Baked Potato? Would love to see your approach to it. Cheers
lammykins09 Not sure... still waiting for the EVO and El Tomo Fish
@@surfnshowreviews7777 time for the Evo
Anyone got some insight on choosing volume on this one?
I usually ride 30 in my daily drivers which sits in between 5'8 (29.2) and 5'9 (30.7)...not sure which one to get.
Hey Noel,
As always Great review! Thanks for covering some of the thoughts you had for the first board that you ended up dialing in by adding some length. How would you size this compared to a neck beard 2 with spinetek but keeping the fish beard PU? I love the get up go and early wave entry of the nb2 and the down the line speed but I think part of that has to do with the spinetek construction.
Mhanny Diaz I like the FB in stock 5’5” dims for 1-4’ surf... if you want to shred it in 2-6’ surf I would add 1” in length for little more rail line to drive through your turns. Keep the width and thickness somewhat the same as the Stock DIMS that suit you best, just add 1” in length.
As always brilliant review and backing it up with great surfing on all the board's you review.I have bought 2 boards from videos thanks to your knowledge and awesome break downs .They both have suited me well..My question is what exactly are the blue fins,size etc? I have this board but I don't love it to be honest.I believe it has potential .I want to try other fins,not just the Kiel fins.,,,Thanks mate...
You will love it with my HP Twins or if you surf heavily off your front foot then get my HP Keels. Here is the link to both sets.
surfnshow.com/collections/fins-1
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks so much for your reply.
Hey Noel- how do you feel about sizing the fishbeard up so it's a bit more cruisy and drawn out? like say 2-3 liters more than your shortboard. For point break style waves. Do you think it would go?
Size 1-2L max
What would you suggest for glassing? Custom would you suggest spending the money for swapping layers with 2S? being the price I won't something that will last me. Thank you great review!
Beach Runner I would contact the folks at CI I see what they recommend for durability and performance. If you glass it to heavy then you won’t get the performance your looking for.
For sure thank you for the reply. Really stoked on ordering this board
Noel, thoughts on the FB in Spine Tek? I noticed on your review page you gave it lower marks for durability. Do you think you'd bump it up on durability and potentially paddle power if ridden in the Spine Tek?
CW Rodriguez Yes.. it will be more durable and have more pop for the life of the board too.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Funny enough, my local shop had my size in Spine Tek yesterday when I went to score a leash. Put a down payment on it.
Hello Noel, I’m 5’11 185lbs. Usually ride between 32.5-33 liters. Is 5’10 FB right or should I g up a notch. Thanks like always
5’10” sounds solid to me. If go Spinetek it will float like 33L. Either PU/Poly or EPS your hood at 5’10”. The 5’11” might feel to bulky
@Noel are you aware if there will be a Fred Rubble 2 coming out in the next few months?
Rall Naude Not that I know of...
Hi Noel, do you have any advice regarding tail pads for the fishbeard? I tried a fishbeard (and loved it) but it didn't have a tail pad. I'm going to buy one and I want a tail pad on mine but I'm not sure if a fish style tail pad (with a high kick) or a regular pad would have any advantage and disadvantages.
I like the Jack Freestone pad for my Fishbeard. It’s not a fish pad but I like the tail kick on it and the slight arch. Check it out
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks Noel! I’ll check it out now. Love the reviews mate.
great review thanks dude! Just a heads up audio is swapped leftright with britt interview at least with headphones and I couldn't stop looking at you when he was talking and vice versa haha
Cheers for the heads up
Thanks for your review Noel. Would you describe the FB as a decent groveler?
Jordi Dalmau Absolutely
@@surfnshowreviews7777 wow ! 😮
For mediocre 1-5 foot beach break, would you pick the Fishbeard or Astro Pop? I was leaning to the Astro Pop, but just discovered the Fishbeard from your vid and it looks sick.
The Fishbeard would be my choice.
@Nathan I'm in the same dilemma , + the Rusty twin fin ! Did you get the Fishbeard ?
Hello,
I have the amk keels and fn fins. How do your hp keels fit between these fins for the fishbeard? Looking at getting a set. Thanks!
My Hp Keels and HP Twins are next level in the Fishbeard and other Twinnys. Tight turns in the pocket with excellent drive, hold, pivot, and release. Check both sets out here.
www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/fins
it easy to see how Brit has built on Als knowledge base.👍
great review - do you think they plan on making this in spine-tek? if so - do you think you would gravitate to that construction or are you stoked on the PU?
Will Davis It will go excellent in Spinetek for 1-4’ surf... and I’m sure you can custom order it. I would be stoked to shred the FB in Spinetek. I heard that CI will NOT be stocking the FB in shops in Spinetek at this time.
What would the difference be between twin and quad set up on this board?
Hey coach ! I gotta a question please,
Is the fishbeard mostly for point breaks and clean open face waves ?
cause I surf mostly beach breaks
The FB will shred Beachies. It’s quick, pivots well with the right twin fins and gets through flats spots fast.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thank you very much for the quick reply and helpful knowledge coach !
Can't wait for mondays new episode :D
Noel, do you prefer this model o the JS last twin review. Thanks mate.
Jorge Varela I prefer this Fishbeard. A bit more high performance
I got the js black baron, wich one would fit better in mushy condition? Wich one do you prefer? and PU OR SPINETEK for small waves?
I prefer Fishbeard. The BB might paddle and grovels a little better but nowhere near the performance as FB.
Hey! Im currently transitioning out of a 6'0 foamie, with 47l. I am 6'1 75kg, and learned with it. Would you recommend this board to transition to proper boards? I'm thinking a dimension of 6'1 or 5'11.
I highly recommend the Lost RNF 96 to transition from your foam board. Maybe start 36-38L on the 96
Ripping review as usual Noel thank u! What's your thoughts on riding the NB2 with a twin plus trailer set up? Possibly getting more drive and release like the fishbeard?
cvosburg77 I heard the NB2 goes great with the Twin + Trailer. Not sure it will feel anything like the FB though... the changes are significant enough that they surf completely different. Twin Fins in general draw different lines and no drag from a center fin.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks brotha getting a set now
I had the same question!
Thanks SnS.
Hey great review! I test rode the off the rack 5'6 x 19 x 2'5 1/6 yesterday. 26lts...
My normal board I've been surfing is 26ltrs , 5'10 ( can't quit read the dimensions but it's 18 x something 2 x something)
Would you think I'd be ok to stick with the 5'6 pu?
I was unsure if the 5'7 might be a bit too much volume. I'm about 5'7 58kg
Thank you:)
Here are some volume ranges to think about for your weight at different skill levels.
Pro/Expert = 20-22L
Advanced = 22-24L
Intermediate = 25-27L
If the 5’6” you tested yesterday paddled you good, and you caught waves easily then go 5’6”…. It’s in your range of you are a intermediate surfer. If you are a lower intermediate surfer then go up to 5’7”
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Awesome thanks very much 👍 😀 I'm perhaps more towards advanced then intermediate, so I'll stick with the 5'6. It will atleast get me started as I navigate the twin fin design :) Felt a very distinct difference jumping back on my thruster today, fealt much slower and more drag. Interesting to observe.
At the 13 minute mark is it just me or do the swallow tail outlines look different? It seems like the one on the right has a deeper swallow. If so why is that? Don’t the shapers use a template? I feel like that would make the boards feel quite a bit different.
J B Pretty technical question... side by side both boards look the same minus the one “ in length. I am sure they use a template....
Hey Noel, awesome review as always. What traction pad did you use? I'm in between installing one. Mahalos
Whitney Haraguchi I used the Creatures Jack Freestone pad.... I also like the Creatures Griff Colapinto pad.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 great thanks!
@@surfnshowreviews7777 did you cut it for the tail?
@@n1ckjudd Nope.. no need
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Hey Noel, how far back did you place the pad? Awesome reviews on the FB, you talked me into getting one.
Noel, please, can u talk about Asher Pacey fins! If u use before, if u liked ? Any opinion about it ! Tanks !
Ivon Pacheco Sorry I have only tried them 1x and they were pretty good. I will try them some more... no opinion on them at this time. Sorry more testing needed for honest feedback.
Thanks man, i really like your show !
Got the Fishbeard with your HP twins and absolutely love it! My other board is a Ghost, but I often feel the waves in Oregon aren’t good enough for a Ghost… what would your recommended board be to compliment the Fishbeard as a two board quiver? I mostly surf 2-8 occasional 10 foot Pacific Northwest beaches (Oregon). Intrigued by the recent Slater Designs S Boss…
Not sure the S Boss can shred 6-10’ surf. Check out the Pyzalien 2… it has a great wave range and easy to shred too
@@surfnshowreviews7777 ooh good shout! The Pyzalian 2 was not really on my radar, but it looks sick! I’ll look into it, thanks!
@@surfnshowreviews7777 have you seen the new Pyzel Precious model? Curious if you have thoughts on it. I assume the Pyzalian 2 has a bigger wave range, but the new Precious looks pretty interesting
@@Nocean831 I saw it on Insta but not in person. Looks interesting indeed
Could I go with a regular set of fins (FCS2 Firewires Pc Carbon Large) as a twin on a Fishbeard?
Nope... no traction or hold. Get the Al Merrick Keels in FCSII.
Do you recommend the Machado Keel future fin to this board? Thanks.
No… I recommend my HP Twins or my HP Keels. Check them both out here.
www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/all
My standard Daily Driver is a 5'8 JS Monsta Box in HYFI-I found a 5'6 in Spinetek online-since you have ridden both boards would you think 5'6 would be a good size? Thanks mate
If the volume is similar to your JS then yes get the 5’6”
@@surfnshowreviews7777 It is by like 1/2 liter so thanks so much bud
How are you doing a model review when you provide stock DIMs?
Nice! I’m surprised you didn’t try more fins. I’m not convinced the Keels would be your go to.
bushkey Have you tried the AM Keels? They don’t surf like normal keel fins. The EN’s offered more pivot and other twin fin sets I have don’t offer enough hold to put in most Twin Fins I ride. The more upright fins like the T1, T2, AMT, MR’s type of fins with Trailer fins slide out like crazy for me backside.
How come you don’t stick to stock dims? Probably falls more in line with what they were going for
Eric Papa I do my best to go stock on every model I review. Sometimes custom is what happens when they don’t have stock Dims dialed yet.
Do you think this will work well in Florida wind chop?
Alex Suarez Yes
Both have it👍5’8keep high speed any other boards
Hey Noel, I’m 88kg and 6ft tall. My current short board is 38L. I’m at the intermediate level and wanting to keep progressing. Would you think the 6’0 would be too small for me? I enjoy my short board but I wonder if I’m riding too much foam
Here’s a liter range for your weight at different skill levels.
Pro/Expert = 31-33L
Advanced = 33-35L
Intermediate = 36-38L
If your catching waves easily then you can drop to 36-37L and get your boards to be more responsive
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thank you!
Hi Chief, is the Lost Swordfish in the wings for review? Corey rips on it but even he admits that he isn't great at analyzing the actual design.
IzandEva Inmyheart Yes... Swordfish review is coming. I just got a couple.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 psyche!
Sorry if this has been asked, what do you prefer between the Fishbeard and the FW Seaside?
I prefer the Fishbeard. It offers more performance surfing and I like Twin Fins
How do you think the fishbeard would go at Waco? I was considering getting this or a nb2 which I know is a favorite at the pool. Any other newer models stand out, driver 2.0 or sub driver 2.0? What would be your top picks for Waco?
The Fishbeard would be sick at Waco with my HP Keel Twin Fins. You will need the hood, drive, and pivot. Here is a link to learn more about my Keels. www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/fins/products/surf-n-show-hp-keels-twin-fins
I also like the Modern Fish by Akika Aipa... with my Keels at Waco.
I also like the Uber Driver XL, and The Medina Model by Cabianca at the pools.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Awesome. That was my next question, which keels do you think would be better for me. I’m 5’6” 135 lbs so I’m thinking a smaller keel like the k2 would be better than the AMK. Looks like your keels are mediums?
@@jedalloyd My Keels will offer more hold, drive, pivot, and release.
Great review. How does the Fishbeard compares to the Rocket Wide?
cassio santos No real comparison at all. FB is faster and really high performance for a Twin Fin but the RW is a Thruster so it draws different lines.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 whilst being both different boards either could work as a daily driver? I think you mentioned that the RW could be ridden with the AMK fins. I need to choose one. Struggling between them.
Terence Ingram RW with AMT fins not AMK. AMT stands for Al Merrick Twins, and AMK stands for Al Merrick Keels. I would never suggest the AMK’s for the RW. Get a set of AMT’s for your RW....
@@terenceingram7786 hey i remember you talking about your v4 rocket.i surf the v3 rocket for4 years.any advice? i want new board cant decide.maby payzelian 2xl.
Hi Noel, looking to buy a twinnie and am split between the FB and the merrick twin fin. Do you have a preference?
cal searson Fishbeard hands down. I love the FB and it blows doors on the CI Twin and CI Fish
Surf n Show Reviews damn was hoping you wouldn’t say that, I’m drawn to the twin for the old school 70’s feel and aesthetic. Would you give it the edge in any facet... except coolness 😂 thanks for the info and reviews 🤙
cal searson Nope... not on any level. It’s got a cool classic look but very sticky on turns for me. I rode the CI Fish in perfect 3-4’ surf and it was nearly impossible for me to do a Two Turn combo without it bogging hard in the nose. I gave the CI Fish back to CI and decided not to do the review. Tough board for me to surf....
Oh man that music is really ummmm interesting
Hey Noel, quick question, hope you don't mind: if you were only going to buy one set of fins, EN or AM keel, which would you choose for surf up to head high?
AMK have more hold n drive. The EN’s will pivot faster but lack drive and hold is so so backside. In 1-2’ surf I might want the EN’s... keep the board quick n pivotal but in 2-4’ surf I would want the AMK.
For waves over 4’ I don’t recommend either set.... the AMK’s might crack your fin boxes and not enough hold on the EN’S. My HP Keels go mental excellent drive, pivot, hold, and release when you want. . Check them out here.
www.shopsurfnshow.com/collections/fins
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Brilliant. Thanks so much Noel. I've just picked up a used FB for £200 and was hoping to get by on one fin set. I surfed it on borrowed third party upright fins (not dissimilar to ENs) and felt the board benefitted from a bit of help in the pivot department … but then I haven't tried the AMKs. I've actually bought a set of ENs already but haven't tried them yet - might return them and go keels. Thanks man. Love your work.
@@silo2105 If you want to buy a pair of my HP Keels you can get them at Down The Line Surf.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Cheers for the info Noel. I know the guys at DTL, great store to have your fins made available.
How does the fishbeard compare to the black baron from js?
The FB offers more high performance surfing due to its sleek outline and longer rail line. The BB is more of a Groveler for 1-4’ surf. The FB is best in 2-6’+ surf. I like the FB way better as it suits my style of surfing.
Hey Noel, just got a Rocket Redux. Any fin set up recommendations
Ken Barrett Mine came out a little in the big side. Waiting for new boards... sorry not much help yet on fins.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 No worries. Let me know when you test it out. Thanks
Hey Noel, I’d like your opinion on my choice between two boards. I’m very interested in both the pyzel phantom and the Ci fishbeard. I’m leaning more towards the fishbeard in hopes of having more speed and slightly better in less than perfect conditions as we don’t get amazing waves very often. But on the other hand the pyzel just seems like such a simple small-medium wave board that can still grovel decently well. Any thoughts? (Note the pyzel I’m looking at only comes as a thruster at my local shop)
Ben Carr Fishbeard... faster and way fun is my opinion
Surf n Show Reviews I jumped the gun and it’s on its way 🤙🏼 can’t wait! Thanks for all the amazing reviews I can’t express how much of a help this channel is😎
@@bencarr605 you ridden board yet? What are your thoughts
Mr B blew the fun box out on the first day.. not much of an opinion yet but it felt great so far. Ask me again in two weeks lol
@@bencarr605 ohhhhhhh no way 😂 ci and the dodgy fin boxes.. Claaaaaaassic 😂 best shapes in the game though
any recommendations for 1-4 ft swells for someone 6' 3" 185 lbs looking for something other than a longboard
9soccerplayr Fishbeard and Seaside are epic. I suggest 33-35L
@@surfnshowreviews7777 was looking towards getting a JS Black Baron 5'9-10" or a seaside and beyond 6'8" i want to try a quad or twin fin
Hey noel! Noticed you got a neckbeard2
there with the small spinetek spine. Have you reviewed one with a smaller spine lay up yet? If not what do you prefer the small or the medium spine? And have you tried the NB2 as a quad yet? Thanks legend! 🤙
tom earl Yes, this NB2 has a smaller Spine suited for my weight. I have been testing it and I don’t notice much difference.... not enough to say it works way better. I am sure for lighter guys than me it will make more of a difference just not sure how much. Now for a guy that’s 190-205 lb I am sure he will notice a big difference from the bigger spine and more carbon compared to small Spine. No plans at the moment to go deeper on this for now... but I hope this helped.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks for the reply! Will you have any new spineteks with the small spine from now on then?
tom earl Not sure at this point... I have no CI boards on order at the moment
Hey n.salas.thanks for all your reviews.im looking for aboard that remind the w.ripper ci.
With llitele more preformens.any advice can help...i surrf 1_4_5fit.cheers
surfer The WR is epic... nothing comes to mind. The WR has a good amount of rocker and it comes in a short package with a lot of foam.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 i have a question.i hope u can help.if i am big guy.87kg.do you think that if the tail rocker is more flat this help me more in raill to raiil? turns?i think that my board hase alot of taill rocker.and he sink in turns more than boards with flat taill rocker?i hope u understand what im talking about.thx
surfer Boards with more tail rocker will offer more hold or traction through turns compared to a board with low tail rocker. Most of the time a board with low tail rocker are made for going fast in small waves. If a board has a wide tail and low tail rocker then it’s usually pretty wide and short with concave or covex bottom contours to help that board get on rail.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 o.k
So how this fishbird comper to the wr ?
@@soulsurfer3102 If your are referring to the Weirdo Ripper when you type WR then there is no comparison between these two sleds. One is a Twin Fin and the other a Thrusters
It’s interesting, on The JS Black Baron... You went a lil’ bit shorter & found it more responsive.
On the CI FishBeard, you went a lil’ bit longer & found that to be more responsive.
Since they’re both in the performance twin category,
what factors come in to play?
Design/shape? Fins? Construction? Foam? Etc.
Have you thought about putting the AM Keel fins in the JS Black Baron & giving it another go???
I have the CI NB2 5’8x19 3/8x2x7/16 29.7L
(I’m frothing in it!!!)
If I want to purchase the
CI FishBeard... from this review, you’re advising that I should stay with relatively, the same dim’s?
And last, but not least...
Black Baron or FishBeard???
Sick review as always!!!
Shannon Young The BB goes better shorter due to it having more foam in the nose area. It has a lot of surface area forward so it tends to catch in the nose on my turns if it’s longer in length or if I’m not surfing it off the tail. By the way... I liked the Al Merrick Keels best in the BB review especially backside.. no need for more testing with the AMK fins on the BB they go insane in that board.
The Fishbeard goes better longer due to its sleek lines in the front 2/3 of the board. It has the NB2 nose and center so it has the freedom to perform high performance turns with more rail line and not catch in the nose. All this to say it’s a design difference between the BB and FB. Completely different shapes and performance. I thought I made all of this clear in the review.....
I prefer the FB for my style of surfing and I also like that I can surf it longer. The longer Twin Fin FB makes it easier for me to transition from board to board because its longer.... same size as my Daily Drivers and only 2” shorter than my HPSB.
If you love your NB2 then get the FB roughly the same size.
Black Baron uses a more upright twin template so its more pivoty. The fish beard being a keel has more drive which is what we all want in a good thruster.
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jordan ward 🤙👊
Hello, what are dimensions for your Fishbeard in Surf Ranch episode please? Could imagine surfing it with more lenght in ocean ? Thank
tina ramholt Yes I like it a little longer in the Ocean too. The dims are the same as the stock 5’5” in width and thickness... Britt stretched it out to 5’6”.5 in length.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I saw it was 5'6''5 and 26 liters. What about the width and thicness please? Same as the 5'5??
tina ramholt Yes... same as the stock 5’5” stock width and thickness
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Merci beaucoup!!!
Driver 2.0 review? 🙏🏻
hi noel, do you think it could would work if you go for a bigger size?
Yes… the Fishbeard goes good when it’s a little longer.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 my local surfshop has a 5.8, im a 5.7..would it work?
Can you do a review of the new Tomo El Fish🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🤙
Mark Yoshida I’m trying to get a couple for review. Hang tight
El tomo fish tail
Look weird.this surfing not air plains.