Ireland's Horned God - Jon O'Sullivan - Irish Pagan School
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- Опубліковано 9 гру 2023
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In this episode Jon explores the idea of a 'Horned God' in Ireland. time and again we are contacted for information about Cernunnos but need to dis appoint folks by informing them that he is Gaulish not Irish, but does that mean that there is no God of wild places and fecundity?
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"Lugh was of more than one race"; when I think of the Irish professor Pat Flannery sharing the account of Red Hugh O'Donnell going to the Spanish King in the 1600s, telling him "the Milesians had come from Spain; many remains of the O'Donnells and O'Neills can be found in Spain" showing the Book of Invasions to him, we remember Lugos/Luis/Lugh(there is a town in Northwestern Spain known as Lugos)/Luz(light) light of the rainbow interconnecting us through the open sea we sail as we continue ahead, bringing the tribes together through the rainbow in a healing way indeed🔥🌧🌈🌊🌬⛵
How strange! I was literally researching this last night!
A new video from you guys is the best way to start the day! Thanks for your time!🖤
Sundays/Monday coffee chats always make work better. it's become my weekly Dagda time.
Thank you so much for this description of the word Celtic.
There's an academic belief that Cernunnos is a God liminality and perhaps one of death. They claim that the "God of the wild an animals" is a false distinction placed on Cernunnos by Wiccan faith.
Pretty interesting. I've been a bit curious about this particular deity and haven't found much info on him. Thanks for sharing some info!
I really appreciate this video!
Excellent explanation and clarification on the subject !
While Cernunnos is a Gaulish God, is it not possible that some of these correlations, or vague similarities between the various "horned" Gods are actually later aspects of a much older Proto-Indo European God?
That also seems to be possibly true as well with various Earth Goddesses as well.
I keep trying to figure out what you're saying in the intro but I can't figure out the spelling to look it up. Lol. I know it ends with welcome!
Its Jon's version of hello and welcome. The modern Irish for 'hello' translates to 'God be with you'. Jon swaps in his God and so he says 'Dagda dhaoibh agus failte' (pronounced 'dag-da yee-ov og-us fault-ya) which translates as Dagda be with you and welcome. thanks for asking
What if those others mentioned apart from Dagda is reborn from or in other ways connected to him … seems like death and also who rides / comes along is a bit of a negotiation when it comes to Irish gods.
I would maybe call what ole Julius did syncretism - pretty common practice for the Romans and others. Ethnocentrism I think is just 'mine is best'
Thank you for the video. I really can't understand why people Celtic so freely especially when they're talking about other countries. I mean how come they can't just say the name of the countries they're talking about.
What about the more modern Irish as the old Irish from what I’ve understood is a diffrent language - is modern or intermediate Irish more Gaulish in language root? Perhaps overlaying the old Irish.
nope
This deity showed me the language Ogham. So, whatever humans have placed as an origin, he will define his own without our help.
The arrogance of you to come onto a kindly-presented, well-informed and calmly-spoken video (which is a free informational resource designed to help people) in which a native Irish person is explaining that Cernunnos is not an Irish or a Gaelic god (and therefore has nothing to do with Ogham), while highlighting that asserting otherwise is ahistorical, colonial in attitude, and generally offensive to people who are living in the regions, like this. He basically said "please don't blob our cultures together into one mass, it's not great" and you were like "this doesn't apply to me, because I cannot listen. Also I know better because gods speak to me, I'm special" and did it anyway. Nobody cares about your UPG about this Gaulish deity. You do not know better than Irish people. Your "insights" from your neopagan Wicca-brained "god-phone" are 100% bullshit. You do not define what is and not Irish. Irish people, and to an extent historians and other academics, do. "But Zeus told me personally that he was born and raised in Japan. He said labels suck." That is how stupid you sound. Do better.
These deities are so ancient too, and they’ve seen thousands of years of language and culture. I’m not Greek, but my Matron is Hekate, and she’s the first and only goddess who ever called out to me. Gods will find their way to whoever they can give the best help and guidance to, but so far that’s my experience.