Huge thanks to the world record holder Couriway for being a part of this video. Let me know if you enjoyed having an expert come on to share some insights, and I will try to make it happen again in a future video!
Id like to preface by saying i have a great deal of respect and admiration for you. That being said, I have a genuine question for you, Karl. Why is it that Dream's speedrun was ultimately denied? As a lifelong gamer myself, I have seen some ridiculous RNG shenanigans, including several literal 1-in-a-million chances happening in a row. That's both the beauty and horror of RNG; sometimes you have the worst possible outcomes, and sometimes you never even know it was supposed to be difficult.
"... you'll know that the world's fastest runs can often depend on a fair amount of luck..." tbh all I know at this point about minecraft speedrunning is that some runs can even depend on an unfair amount of luck...
@@coronelkittycannon as portals are TileEntities, they tick themselfs, so no. If you somehow are in that spot, place a block next to a portal to guve it a chunk update, so they do their routine again.
Maybe instead of trying to get enough pearls, you rush for 2-3, and try to see if you can get a portal that's full, or almost full. This strat is really luck based though, but can get you a stupidly short time
No angry random person on the internet before you reply to this comment with how much you hate minecraft and you don't want Karl to do videos about it, remember people have different opinions and not everyone hates/likes what you hate/like
It's funny how the chance of a portal being filled with 12 eyes is more likely than the chance anyone in the Minecraft speedrunning community ever got pearl + rod luck as good as Dream's
I’m glad Karl is covering Minecraft speed running ever since the whole Dream debacle tarnishing the reputation of legitimate speedrunners. Way to go you absolute legend.
@David Alexander nobody said that dream made people hate speedrun. Dream cheating just creates a layer of unnecessary suspicion on every Minecraft speed runner from here on out has to deal with. It’s not helped that it got so much attention and he has such a huge follower count which blew the situation up way more
@David Alexander dreams leads himself off to be illegitimate when he cheats tho lmao, that’s kinda the whole reason people are upset with him. Sure he’s had legitimate runs but once you cheat you cast this layer of suspicion on you that could’ve been prevented
@David Alexander Dream *was* a legitimate speed runner. The _instant_ he cheated now EVERY (good) run of his will be treated with skepticism and doubt. When even a good player resorts to cheating it negatively impacts the entire community as it creates a shadow over the community. i.e. _If one of "good guys" was cheating who else might be cheating that we are currently not aware of?_ The best interest of the community for long term survival is in everyone being as honest as possible. Once doubt begins to creep in it slowly fractures the community.
@David Alexander idk why u took this so off topic for. The original comment said that Dream tarnished a lot of legitimate speedruns. I feel like that’s valid since cheating generates suspicion. Nowhere in this discussion was anyone talking about people who wanted bad things for dream mentioned till you brought it up.
There is actually a minecraft seed (-4530634556500121041) that spawns you in a village and literally right next to the village is a ruined portal and a pirate ship. A chest in the pirate ship has a flint and steel in it. The ruined portal is almost complete and only needs a few more obsidian blocks to complete it. Conveniently there is a blacksmith in the village with a chest that contains 16 obsidian . Also conveniently next to the ruined portal there is a chest which contains a fire charge. This chest also contains iron and flint which makes going into the pirate ship useless for a speedrun. Once inside the nether there is a nether fortress not too far away. But fortunately there is a massive warped forest biome right next to the nether fortress which allows for quick ender pearls if the player is lucky with the drops. But surprisingly this is all a waste of time as the nether portal already has all 12 eyes naturally filled in. This means the player can skip the collection of ender pearls and blaze rods and just go straight to the stronghold from their exit portal. I can't find the exact coordinates for the placement of the exit nether portal but it is really close to where the player enters the nether. If they make their exit portal in the right spot they will spawn inside the stronghold diagonally above the portal room. The chances of winning the lottery are 1 in 292.2 million and just the chances of the ender portal being naturally filled in alone are 1 in 1 trillion. Whoever found this seed for the first time had a better chance of winning the lottery five times in a row than finding this seed. And that's just counting the ender portal being filled in and not everything else.
My man Karl doesn't care about ad rates in January haha, he just uploads for the fans and because he's passionate about the videos. If 2021 carries on like this, it will turn out great for the channel
@@CraftyMasterman Yeah it's a half joke comment but still true because most UA-camrs will just take a break now but Karl has come in with some great videos recently and seems to want to start the year nicely. I appreciate it
One in a trillion? There is actually a minecraft seed (-4530634556500121041) that spawns you in a village and literally right next to the village is a ruined portal and a pirate ship. A chest in the pirate ship has a flint and steel in it. The ruined portal is almost complete and only needs a few more obsidian blocks to complete it. Conveniently there is a blacksmith in the village with a chest that contains 16 obsidian . Also conveniently next to the ruined portal there is a chest which contains a fire charge. This chest also contains iron and flint which makes going into the pirate ship useless for a speedrun. Once inside the nether there is a nether fortress not too far away. But fortunately there is a massive warped forest biome right next to the nether fortress which allows for quick ender pearls if the player is lucky with the drops. But surprisingly this is all a waste of time as the nether portal already has all 12 eyes naturally filled in. This means the player can skip the collection of ender pearls and blaze rods and just go straight to the stronghold from their exit portal. I can't find the exact coordinates for the placement of the exit nether portal but it is really close to where the player enters the nether. If they make their exit portal in the right spot they will spawn inside the stronghold diagonally above the portal room. The chances of winning the lottery are 1 in 292.2 million and just the chances of the ender portal being naturally filled in alone are 1 in 1 trillion. Whoever found this seed for the first time had a better chance of winning the lottery five times in a row than finding this seed. And that's just counting the ender portal being filled in and not everything else.
@@prolapses Yes but there are two things to consider. Firstly, I never said that it wasn't, I just said the chances a person would have of finding this seed. And secondly, I don't remember asking?
@@1767hfdh I think it's more of the former. He doesn't just make videos on what is popular, he makes videos on what he knows. So since he just had an emergency crash course, he ended up with a wide range of topics to talk about that he didn't have a good enough understanding of before.
@@jjcoola998 karl jobst is blacklisted in dreams comment plus if you even say remotely about the speedrunning scandal you will get banned on dreams reddit.the first one is probably why hes posting minecraft videos
leibakki why are you people being so childish about this, is it so hard to understand that he just MIGHT have wanted to make a video because it interested him? Just because a game is popular doesn’t mean he is doing for money. And when would he even make this video if not for now, right after he first dove into the game during the dream situation? Would you have wanted him to wait until minecraft speedrunning was less popular? Just give it a chance jesus christ, Its like 2016 all over again where people were hella toxic towards minecraft, like i get people dont like dream, but dream =/= minecraft
I'm still amazed at how much Karl researches every single game, and their run strats, before making each video. That shows dedication and passion for speedrunning.
Huge fan of the minecraft content on this channel and how it's been handled; having experienced runners weigh in and give examples of notable runs adds a huge feeling of legitimacy and feels like a real look into the scene, and the research youve done is clearly evident and makes the vid so much stronger. Enthralling stuff as always
Karl: -talks about how quick dragon perches can make or break an End fight, and how lucky you have to be to get a good one- Me: ...oh no Karl: So, Minecravenger- me: Well that aged like milk!
Man, your Minecraft Speedrunning documentation videos have been really entertaining and informative these past few weeks! Keep up the legendary content! :D
"... some extremely interesting anecdotes about how some of these crazy luck factors have played out in *legitimate* speedruns." Throwing shade at Dream, are you?
@@vyor8837 he modified his game to get unreasonably lucky for the last 6 speedrunning streams. Got "wr pace", but failed it in the end, but still got a pb, that he did submit, and there were ppl sus of the luck in the streams that launched investigation, and mods had to write a multi-page paper trying to not be overly harsh and that reduced the chance of the luck from a 1 in few sextillions of just him getting the luck into 1 in 7.5 trillions that anyone could get it, while accounting for reasonable issues with bias
I would love a series like this with every game you're experienced with Karl, this is something i've always wondered but isn't too explored on UA-cam from what i've seen
I mean technically the fastest one would be finding the stronghold in the ocean as close to spawn as possible, and then digging right into the portal room and it has all 12 eyes filled. It’s TECHNICALLY possible but it would be crazy lucky.
@@ej-jz5rc Don't have to be a Dream stan to think it's kinda bullshit that they disqualified a speedrun with exactly zero actual evidence of wrongdoing. All there is (that I've seen) is a dozen odd videos talking about how unlikely his runs are. Nothing that he did is impossible, just improbable. If they can't even show actual proof that the game was tampered with... well. Put up or shut up, frankly. Unlikely things happen every single fucking day. No amount of "this is so unlikely, here's how unlikely this is, isn't it just SOOO unlikely?!" is actually providing evidence of tampering. Prove he did something impossible during normal play or prove he altered the game in a way that breaks the rules. Otherwise fuck off. If someone bought three lotto tickets and won with all three of them, you'd be right to be skeptical. But you'd also have to prove that he cheated or falsified the winning numbers somehow, not just scream out into the void how it's not a probable outcome. Can't prove it? Tough shit. Admittedly his reactions on Twitter were pretty bad. He definitely acted like someone caught cheating.
@@MystearicalX they disqualified the runs because they were “too improbable to verify,” not because he definitely cheated. The issue isn’t that he got really lucky; it’s that he consistently got really lucky over a long stretch of time, which is why the probability found by the statisticians was so low.
@@MystearicalX He cheated and it's really obvious if you look at the debunking videos, he hasn't responded to them either. He's just ignoring it hoping it will blow over, and it will because of people who believe his every word like you.
this one seed I played had a fortress so big it spanned over 8 different biomes, was incredibly tall, and led into a bastion. I've never seen anything bigger than that, it had like three blaze spawners
@@WhisperAH Saying Dream is a good speedrunner doesn't make someone a Dream stan... He *is* a good mc speedrunner, one of the best even. But yeah, he still cheated.
@@Cowpowblaow The beginning of this video might be from DK, but Karl has used the galaxy map theme from Mass Effect ("Uncharted Worlds" - ua-cam.com/video/6TICn16U-rI/v-deo.html) so many times and it always gives me a big dose of nostalgia. It's at around 6:10 in this video for example. :)
@@Cowpowblaow Yes the beginning is donkey country but at the 7 min mark it changes, and that's the one I couldn't put my finger on. And that the one the og poster was talking about
Great video, Karl, the quality is insane, and it's nice to see you taking a good look at Minecraft-it really has something for everyone. Having an expert around is pretty cool, I wouldn't mind seeing more coming. Keep it up, man.
Found your channel a while ago and just been binge-watching ever since, love your videos. They're great both for those who are into the game you're covering and those who've never seen a speedrun of it, managing that balance deserves some serious kudos! On a different note, I couldn't help but notice that a certain galaxy map theme often plays in the background when you explain something--any chance you'll do something on Mass Effect trilogy speedrunning? :D
Dream doing the speedrun, winning 82 lotteries, getting struck by lightning 50 times then finishing with a fallen satellite on his head. he was a really lucky guy
"Not every speedrunner is so sure that sub-10 could ever realistically happen" If there's one thing the absolute legend Mr.Jobst himself is very familiar with, it's breaking barriers that others aren't even sure are possible
Karl, you set the feet where you are, as a youtuber and a speedrunner. You are not like SmallAnt, focused on playing games and speedrunning as your main focus (yes, I know about your records on 00 agent). You aren't like Summoning Salt, who I can say looks more like a cientist. You are an ambassador, for the whole speedrun community, and those who want to know about it, and this is awesome. I can't imagine a better person to show to the world what speedrun a games is, and why its so fun and beautiful. Thanks for being this legend
@@christiannoble5549 it does not seem to generate him more views. It seems like its pretty much the same views as his other videos. (the dream video is controversial so of course it has a heck ton of views)
Still can't believe Minecraft speedrunning has become so popular... I always thought many RNG elements dictating a game is bad for speedrunning, because you just get lucky or screwed over without having any impact on that... but here we are for some reason.
I think the way minecraft does rng is a lot more appealing and feels more fair in a way than it does in other games where the rng portions are at a specific point always and you lose time there if you are unlucky, whereas in minecraft literally everything is rng, and and it feels like more of an adventure when looking for structures around the world praying to RNGesus
I think it became so popular because of the creativity and on the fly thinking you don't get with most speedruns. Most speedruns rely entirely on quick reflexes and a total knowledge of the level. For minecraft it's different every time, so you may have to adapt your strategy on the fly
Instructions on how to get Minecraft RSG 1.16 world record in under 5 minutes. Step 1: Click "generate new world" Step 2: Have dream luck... Step 3: Get a seed that players use for set seed that way it still counts as random seed. Step 4: TIME TO THROW POGCHAMP
cherny yes it can, what do you mean? the set seed world is a minecraft seed just like any other, and when you generate a random seed you can get ANY seed, including that one
@@pebble312 Exactly... Sadly not all people have dream luck to get it. Also, I'm 100% confident that speedrunners will find a better seed. Although that one they use is quite insane already
Karl it's always a pleasure, sorry the stans have come out in force. Anyone who does not know who holds 3 of the "boring 4" and dosen't brag about it must be confused. Thanks for all your research, you are doing justice to speed running across all categories.
@@stasheman8920 the idiots who think dream didn't cheat regardless of how many astro lubers he's got. Like trump guys, so far into it they can't fathom anything thing negative. Lost souls.
My kids play Minecraft constantly, I've never got it. That said, I've thoroughly enjoyed the videos about the speedrunning aspect of it. Always interesting to hear how those at the top of any competition see it, and what they strive for.
@Frax Because Karl Jobst could make a video about the inner workings of a fridge and I'd still watch it. The man is like a less rich Midas, everything he touches turns interesting.
Coming back to this 2 years later and seeing Minecravenger used as an example of the perfect end fight. The game is possibly the worst in history for cheaters.
Man, I love that you use the ME soundtrack. It's so soothing music. A little distracting when the nostalgia hits, but you have a compelling narration so it's not really an issue.
@@johnmckenna3993 But he said the 'Fastest Minecraft Speedrun' which would include bedrock.. If he had said the 'Fastest Minecraft Java Speedrun' then that would have been couriway.
Actually started tuning in on MC speedruns and by proxy actually playing minecraft after 7 or 8 years thanks to your previous video. Love your stuff and hope to see more
All these people talking about Karl throwing shade at Dream in this video, but honestly I personally just find it hilarious that Dream decided to cheat and make the chances of the old strategy working higher, instead of finding a new one that was more consistent like the _real_ speedrunners did here. Talk about a lack of flexibility
@@jeremy5434 From the little I've observed, his fans are moreso fatigued and tired from all the drama. They seemed to just be confused about who to believe and decided to drop the issue altogether because they simply don't care. They weren't following him for his legit Minecraft speedrun records, so why bother?
@@detrilogue3174 a good point actually, Dream is famous for his Manhunt series, fucking around with weird scenarios with his friends and doing Unsolved Mysteries, speed running is essentially just a side project out of personal interest on his part. In the recent controversy I checked Dreams channel and I must admit, the man and his buddies together have a talent for creating good tension and intrigue around a pretty basic premise. I don't blame anyone for enjoying it.
@@tkaine7983 I personally have stayed away from every one of his channels since this whole thing broke out. I watch a lot of speedruns and have a lot of respect for the practice, so seeing someone cheat at it and lie and manipulate the emotions of his fanbase to cover his own trail doesn't sit right with me. I *tried* watching his most recent Manhunt, but that lingering mistrust kind of ate away at my enjoyment of the video. I don't know if the video itself was less enjoyable than his other ones or if I'm just more hesitant to support anything Dream does.
Getting those Minecraft views, hey? Good for you, Karl - your videos are awesome, and you deserve many more views and subscribes than you already have. Looking forward to seeing your channel grow even more in 2021! :)
I think there are faster realistic strategies than fastions. If a runner finds a (maybe even completable) ruined portal with a lot of gold (3 blocks in the structure and maybe more in the chest) they could barter while they're collecting rods. It's not as much gold as an ocean monument or a bastion would provide, but it's certainly possible to get all you need with just a little bit of luck, especially if you already have obsidian from the blacksmith or portal chest. Bastion routes take a lot of time compared to passively bartering while you're in the fortress. This could possibly knock two minutes off the time.
Hey Karl Just wanted to say that on bedrock strongholds always spawn beneath a village that means that if you dig beneath a village there is like a 1 in 15 chance you find the stronghold this means a 12 eye random seed speedrun is possible using the advantage of 12 eyes
Y'all need to leave twitter. Everyone there is rabid. Take a breath. Go outside. Smell the roses. This goes for dream stans and antis alike. And don't worry! Tumblr had this phase 8 years ago, you'll all grow out of it ^^
Maybe because you keep making the same comment about "Dream cheated" or "here come the stans" in every single minecraft speedrunning video? It just gets annoying reading the comments and see the same overused joke over and over.
I know the visual component is a huge part of your channel, but a podcast from you about emergent mechanics would be so ridiculously fascinating. Your voice, presentation, and level of expertise are amazing.
Tbh, RNG in speedruns is just absolute cancer. At least when it's this kind. I can accept the type of RNG that's typical in roguelikes and such, assuming ofc that there's not an ultra-OP path that is speedrun viable and everything else is a failed run, but the kinda RNG where it's "you need to try this 1000 times to get the exact combo you need, and you need luck in two other arenas as well" can just go die in a fire. And it's a horrible viewing experience as well. We want to see skill, not luck. It really sucks that there's no way of telling which of the top 10 speedruns that actually were the best played, because RNG is so damn important.
I love that you did all of this research on minecraft speedrunning so your dream analysis could be accurate. But then got so interested in it that you made these great minecraft speedrunning videos
Realistically the fastest random seed would be that of the set seed. I know we're talking crazy but realistically if you just got THAT lucky than yeah its possible. Knowing exactly where to place the portal and stuff yeah its nuts but we're talking fastest possible.
@David Alexander If you’re a top speedrunner that got caught cheating and also happen to be a big UA-camr with a huge fanbase people are obviously going to shit on you for what you did. “Imagine hating someone because they cheated in a game. That’s stupid.” Dream was speedrunning, he likes to speedrun, in fact a lot of people do. And for him, a top runner with a cult following to cheat like that to get an illegitimate record and ruin the name of the community? These people pour their heart and soul out on speedrunning, it’s their hobby, for someone as big as Dream to cheat and try to cheaply steal a world record is just disappointing, not just for the MC Speedrun community but the entire Minecraft community as a whole. I’m not saying he should be swarmed with hate, but you should understand why some people were mad. In the end, people are still talking about it because it’s become a meme. It happens to every videogame cheater. Optic India’s Forsaken? Meme. Billy Mitchell and Todd Roger? Meme. Hell, even that guy from Karl’s Doom cheaters vid became a meme. Just ignore it, Dream himself ignores it.
Huge thanks to the world record holder Couriway for being a part of this video. Let me know if you enjoyed having an expert come on to share some insights, and I will try to make it happen again in a future video!
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very good day if karl uploads
YAY
Hey, Carl, My main
Id like to preface by saying i have a great deal of respect and admiration for you. That being said, I have a genuine question for you, Karl.
Why is it that Dream's speedrun was ultimately denied? As a lifelong gamer myself, I have seen some ridiculous RNG shenanigans, including several literal 1-in-a-million chances happening in a row. That's both the beauty and horror of RNG; sometimes you have the worst possible outcomes, and sometimes you never even know it was supposed to be difficult.
Pizza and coke are a must for any perfect speed run
Is this related to the super mario bros fake speedrun?
@@GucciShades-w1h yes
don't forget to eat and drink during load screens
Grease lightning
Remember to not touch the controller while your character is walking
"... you'll know that the world's fastest runs can often depend on a fair amount of luck..."
tbh all I know at this point about minecraft speedrunning is that some runs can even depend on an unfair amount of luck...
1 in 7 trillion
@@jaxpro611 lmao
I see what you did there
Veritas my sir you have a good taste in youtube channels
omg its daddy veritas
Imagine everything coming together only to realize that the portal had all of the eyes filled from the start :-D
That would be hilarious (and kinda frustrating)
that would mean it's closed forever, right?
@@coronelkittycannon as portals are TileEntities, they tick themselfs, so no. If you somehow are in that spot, place a block next to a portal to guve it a chunk update, so they do their routine again.
@@coronelkittycannon That used to be the case, but now they recheck themselves.
Maybe instead of trying to get enough pearls, you rush for 2-3, and try to see if you can get a portal that's full, or almost full. This strat is really luck based though, but can get you a stupidly short time
I'll say like this, I'm happy im not a mc speedrunner.
@@stefanandrejevic2570 that's some nice English you wrote there
what does mc mean
ay its cows
Yeah, how happy you must be because you don't do something you don't want to do
Yeahhhhhh cows
I think Karl is a little hyped on Minecraft speedrunning right now! What an absolute legend...
No angry random person on the internet before you reply to this comment with how much you hate minecraft and you don't want Karl to do videos about it, remember people have different opinions and not everyone hates/likes what you hate/like
He said he's gonna stop making videos about mc cuz the comments are too toxic, so...
@@cezzan6586 Meh if he did wanna bet?
Whoever is reading this is an absolute legend have a great day
it nets him the most $$$, can't blame the man
It's funny how the chance of a portal being filled with 12 eyes is more likely than the chance anyone in the Minecraft speedrunning community ever got pearl + rod luck as good as Dream's
Yea lol
Dream is jst thet guud 😺👁😺😎😏💀😺💀👁😅😅😘😺😛😺💢😺👁🔥➡
(he is just very lucky)
its the same chance of getting 20 rods in a row or getting 10 in a row and then not get one for 10 drops.
He just has a good gaming chair
Really cool vid and the explanation from Couriway are amazing! Thanks!
I know right? Amazing
Bruh 11 likes only
👁️🗨️
Shadoune que haces aqui :0
technoblade is better pog
I’m glad Karl is covering Minecraft speed running ever since the whole Dream debacle tarnishing the reputation of legitimate speedrunners. Way to go you absolute legend.
@David Alexander nobody said that dream made people hate speedrun. Dream cheating just creates a layer of unnecessary suspicion on every Minecraft speed runner from here on out has to deal with. It’s not helped that it got so much attention and he has such a huge follower count which blew the situation up way more
@David Alexander dreams leads himself off to be illegitimate when he cheats tho lmao, that’s kinda the whole reason people are upset with him. Sure he’s had legitimate runs but once you cheat you cast this layer of suspicion on you that could’ve been prevented
@David Alexander Dream *was* a legitimate speed runner. The _instant_ he cheated now EVERY (good) run of his will be treated with skepticism and doubt. When even a good player resorts to cheating it negatively impacts the entire community as it creates a shadow over the community. i.e. _If one of "good guys" was cheating who else might be cheating that we are currently not aware of?_
The best interest of the community for long term survival is in everyone being as honest as possible. Once doubt begins to creep in it slowly fractures the community.
@David Alexander man when did I say that💀
@David Alexander idk why u took this so off topic for. The original comment said that Dream tarnished a lot of legitimate speedruns. I feel like that’s valid since cheating generates suspicion. Nowhere in this discussion was anyone talking about people who wanted bad things for dream mentioned till you brought it up.
What's crazy to me is some people might have had "god seeeds" before but threw it / choked and ruined the run.
Or were 9 y olds and just ran around looking for a horse to tame for 20 hours
There is actually a minecraft seed (-4530634556500121041) that spawns you in a village and literally right next to the village is a ruined portal and a pirate ship. A chest in the pirate ship has a flint and steel in it. The ruined portal is almost complete and only needs a few more obsidian blocks to complete it. Conveniently there is a blacksmith in the village with a chest that contains 16 obsidian . Also conveniently next to the ruined portal there is a chest which contains a fire charge. This chest also contains iron and flint which makes going into the pirate ship useless for a speedrun. Once inside the nether there is a nether fortress not too far away. But fortunately there is a massive warped forest biome right next to the nether fortress which allows for quick ender pearls if the player is lucky with the drops. But surprisingly this is all a waste of time as the nether portal already has all 12 eyes naturally filled in. This means the player can skip the collection of ender pearls and blaze rods and just go straight to the stronghold from their exit portal. I can't find the exact coordinates for the placement of the exit nether portal but it is really close to where the player enters the nether. If they make their exit portal in the right spot they will spawn inside the stronghold diagonally above the portal room. The chances of winning the lottery are 1 in 292.2 million and just the chances of the ender portal being naturally filled in alone are 1 in 1 trillion. Whoever found this seed for the first time had a better chance of winning the lottery five times in a row than finding this seed. And that's just counting the ender portal being filled in and not everything else.
@RedBeKindaSusTho but its better than being shown down
@@xelloskaczor5051 I feel called out. I'm not 9 but I really like horses. I also collect cats and wolves.
My man Karl doesn't care about ad rates in January haha, he just uploads for the fans and because he's passionate about the videos. If 2021 carries on like this, it will turn out great for the channel
@Radionixix the ad rates in January are super low
i mean he's sponsored lmao
@Radionixix the views are typically the lowest in January
@@CraftyMasterman Yeah it's a half joke comment but still true because most UA-camrs will just take a break now but Karl has come in with some great videos recently and seems to want to start the year nicely. I appreciate it
@Radionixix If I'm not wrong, december has very good ad rates because more people are watching due to the holidays. So the next month is super low
KARL JOBST UPLOAD
I FEEL LIKE AN ABSOLUTE LEGEND ALREADY
You are. ❤
@@boiledelephant hes not, as he uses CAPS LOCK
"...But the odds of finding such a seed is one in a trillion"
Dream: "I've had worse"
Dream: “I like those odds”
One in a trillion? There is actually a minecraft seed (-4530634556500121041) that spawns you in a village and literally right next to the village is a ruined portal and a pirate ship. A chest in the pirate ship has a flint and steel in it. The ruined portal is almost complete and only needs a few more obsidian blocks to complete it. Conveniently there is a blacksmith in the village with a chest that contains 16 obsidian . Also conveniently next to the ruined portal there is a chest which contains a fire charge. This chest also contains iron and flint which makes going into the pirate ship useless for a speedrun. Once inside the nether there is a nether fortress not too far away. But fortunately there is a massive warped forest biome right next to the nether fortress which allows for quick ender pearls if the player is lucky with the drops. But surprisingly this is all a waste of time as the nether portal already has all 12 eyes naturally filled in. This means the player can skip the collection of ender pearls and blaze rods and just go straight to the stronghold from their exit portal. I can't find the exact coordinates for the placement of the exit nether portal but it is really close to where the player enters the nether. If they make their exit portal in the right spot they will spawn inside the stronghold diagonally above the portal room. The chances of winning the lottery are 1 in 292.2 million and just the chances of the ender portal being naturally filled in alone are 1 in 1 trillion. Whoever found this seed for the first time had a better chance of winning the lottery five times in a row than finding this seed. And that's just counting the ender portal being filled in and not everything else.
@@nukedude2433 Yes, but that's a set seed. And yes it is one in a trillion, this seed is just one of those.
@@prolapses Yes but there are two things to consider. Firstly, I never said that it wasn't, I just said the chances a person would have of finding this seed. And secondly, I don't remember asking?
@@nukedude2433
You are participating in a discussion, you will be responded to. Don’t clap back like that; you’re just making yourself look stupid.
Holy shit the "bed rock" pillar, what a beautiful accident pun
Lol that’s such a coincidence
You have a higher chance of getting the perfect speedrunning seed than getting Dream’s blaze rod/ender pearl luck.
But the math was explained and it isnt 1 in 7.5 trillion
@@Justap1g oh I guess I didn’t hear about that
@@ok-zm2yf lol I know right
it's not possible to randomly generate the current ssg wr seed
@@zolsticesr are you serious?! I guess that would make sense, tho
Two videos in less than one week! What have we done to be blessed by this RNG!!
Karl : *researches for 3 weeks for the dream video*
Also Karl : reeeee I’m not letting all this research go to waste
@@1767hfdh I think it's more of the former. He doesn't just make videos on what is popular, he makes videos on what he knows. So since he just had an emergency crash course, he ended up with a wide range of topics to talk about that he didn't have a good enough understanding of before.
@@1767hfdh His content is all about speedrun.
So, no. This channel won't be turning into minecraft channel.
@@jjcoola998 karl jobst is blacklisted in dreams comment plus if you even say remotely about the speedrunning scandal you will get banned on dreams reddit.the first one is probably why hes posting minecraft videos
leibakki why are you people being so childish about this, is it so hard to understand that he just MIGHT have wanted to make a video because it interested him? Just because a game is popular doesn’t mean he is doing for money. And when would he even make this video if not for now, right after he first dove into the game during the dream situation? Would you have wanted him to wait until minecraft speedrunning was less popular? Just give it a chance jesus christ, Its like 2016 all over again where people were hella toxic towards minecraft, like i get people dont like dream, but dream =/= minecraft
@@1767hfdh If he was just doing Minecraft videos for views, they'd be uninspired, barely 10-minute videos with less research.
But they aren't.
I'm still amazed at how much Karl researches every single game, and their run strats, before making each video. That shows dedication and passion for speedrunning.
13:08 sad to hear this one was cheated
for some reason I could just listen to karl say "piglins" over and over again it's so satisfying to me
You could make a video about speed running Mario Teaches Typing and you can bet I’d enjoy it! Keep the content coming man
Here after Brentilda achieved the first sub 10 WR
Never played or cared about Minecraft, but these videos are fascinating :) I'm so happy you're blowing up so hard lately, Karl
Huge fan of the minecraft content on this channel and how it's been handled; having experienced runners weigh in and give examples of notable runs adds a huge feeling of legitimacy and feels like a real look into the scene, and the research youve done is clearly evident and makes the vid so much stronger. Enthralling stuff as always
Karl: -talks about how quick dragon perches can make or break an End fight, and how lucky you have to be to get a good one-
Me: ...oh no
Karl: So, Minecravenger-
me: Well that aged like milk!
3:16 guy in the runners chat asks if he just farted LOL
@@jjcoola998 I'm not even a part of the Minecraft community I'm just stupid as hell
Dowsky classic
1:50 "legitimate speedruns" hahaha
Man, your Minecraft Speedrunning documentation videos have been really entertaining and informative these past few weeks! Keep up the legendary content! :D
The dragon perch example didn't age well
"... some extremely interesting anecdotes about how some of these crazy luck factors have played out in *legitimate* speedruns."
Throwing shade at Dream, are you?
Lol
oüf
What happened with that run btw?
@@vyor8837 he modified his game to get unreasonably lucky for the last 6 speedrunning streams. Got "wr pace", but failed it in the end, but still got a pb, that he did submit, and there were ppl sus of the luck in the streams that launched investigation, and mods had to write a multi-page paper trying to not be overly harsh and that reduced the chance of the luck from a 1 in few sextillions of just him getting the luck into 1 in 7.5 trillions that anyone could get it, while accounting for reasonable issues with bias
prob because dream black listed his name in his comments
I would love a series like this with every game you're experienced with Karl, this is something i've always wondered but isn't too explored on UA-cam from what i've seen
I mean technically the fastest one would be finding the stronghold in the ocean as close to spawn as possible, and then digging right into the portal room and it has all 12 eyes filled. It’s TECHNICALLY possible but it would be crazy lucky.
" The odds of finding such a seed are one in a trillion" - Dream: "Hold my beer"
not a seed tho but pearl chance and blaze
@@renanmendes1299 ok dream stan
@@ej-jz5rc Don't have to be a Dream stan to think it's kinda bullshit that they disqualified a speedrun with exactly zero actual evidence of wrongdoing. All there is (that I've seen) is a dozen odd videos talking about how unlikely his runs are. Nothing that he did is impossible, just improbable. If they can't even show actual proof that the game was tampered with... well. Put up or shut up, frankly. Unlikely things happen every single fucking day. No amount of "this is so unlikely, here's how unlikely this is, isn't it just SOOO unlikely?!" is actually providing evidence of tampering. Prove he did something impossible during normal play or prove he altered the game in a way that breaks the rules. Otherwise fuck off. If someone bought three lotto tickets and won with all three of them, you'd be right to be skeptical. But you'd also have to prove that he cheated or falsified the winning numbers somehow, not just scream out into the void how it's not a probable outcome. Can't prove it? Tough shit.
Admittedly his reactions on Twitter were pretty bad. He definitely acted like someone caught cheating.
@@MystearicalX they disqualified the runs because they were “too improbable to verify,” not because he definitely cheated. The issue isn’t that he got really lucky; it’s that he consistently got really lucky over a long stretch of time, which is why the probability found by the statisticians was so low.
@@MystearicalX He cheated and it's really obvious if you look at the debunking videos, he hasn't responded to them either. He's just ignoring it hoping it will blow over, and it will because of people who believe his every word like you.
this one seed I played had a fortress so big it spanned over 8 different biomes, was incredibly tall, and led into a bastion. I've never seen anything bigger than that, it had like three blaze spawners
Alternate answer:
An actually good runner with Dreams “luck”
The video is a roundabout way of implying that Dream cheated
Err, dream is still a good speedrunner, he still has/had a verified world record.
@@doctor99267 the dream stans are here
@@WhisperAH he is right, Dream is a good mc speedrunner, but he did cheat.
@@WhisperAH Saying Dream is a good speedrunner doesn't make someone a Dream stan... He *is* a good mc speedrunner, one of the best even.
But yeah, he still cheated.
I Like How Karl Is Very Eager To Inspect And Explain Games That He Has Never Covered In Speedrunning.
Absolute Legend
Stop Capitalizing Every Word
I Am The Ultimate Capitilizer
@@Wyfoo But The Problem Is That This Makes You Grammatically Incorrect When You Say Stuff
@hello how are you doing K thanks
Wow This Comment Gave Me Permanent Cataracts
6:29 Ah, the good old stealing people's stuff and selling it back to them.
I’m a simple man. I see a Karl Jobst video, I click
Keep up the great work!
Hearing the Tetris CD-i level 0 music at 15:20 amazed me that you would know such an obscure game.
Big props to that, and great video. :)
3:15 *Karl explaining speedrunning strategies*
That one guy in the chat: "bro did u just fart"
I can not stress how much I love the Mass Effect 1 OST in the background
Thank you it was killing me. I was gonna ask for the music that is so familiar to me yet i don't recall it at all.
@@JoeNoToes It's from the internet checkpoint, I think it's from donkey kong
yeah that is not Mass Effect, its from donkey kong country 2 ua-cam.com/video/bQx91RR3Y8o/v-deo.html
@@Cowpowblaow The beginning of this video might be from DK, but Karl has used the galaxy map theme from Mass Effect ("Uncharted Worlds" - ua-cam.com/video/6TICn16U-rI/v-deo.html) so many times and it always gives me a big dose of nostalgia. It's at around 6:10 in this video for example. :)
@@Cowpowblaow Yes the beginning is donkey country but at the 7 min mark it changes, and that's the one I couldn't put my finger on. And that the one the og poster was talking about
15:18 If anyone is curious, the background song is from Tetris on CD-i.
Some pretty chill songs on that soundtrack.
Never thought math will haunt you when playing a game with blocks
Especially if you’re dream
considering how video games are made, i think it's safe to say that math will haunt you in almost every game
Great video, Karl, the quality is insane, and it's nice to see you taking a good look at Minecraft-it really has something for everyone.
Having an expert around is pretty cool, I wouldn't mind seeing more coming.
Keep it up, man.
Found your channel a while ago and just been binge-watching ever since, love your videos. They're great both for those who are into the game you're covering and those who've never seen a speedrun of it, managing that balance deserves some serious kudos! On a different note, I couldn't help but notice that a certain galaxy map theme often plays in the background when you explain something--any chance you'll do something on Mass Effect trilogy speedrunning? :D
Wow that couriway guy is really handsome and amazing at minecraft i should subscribe to him
Haha
i agree (wait did i just agree to him being handsome)
Dream doing the speedrun, winning 82 lotteries, getting struck by lightning 50 times then finishing with a fallen satellite on his head. he was a really lucky guy
"Not every speedrunner is so sure that sub-10 could ever realistically happen"
If there's one thing the absolute legend Mr.Jobst himself is very familiar with, it's breaking barriers that others aren't even sure are possible
The world record is 7 minutes
Channel has really been growing lately. Well deserved, Karl.
Karl, you set the feet where you are, as a youtuber and a speedrunner. You are not like SmallAnt, focused on playing games and speedrunning as your main focus (yes, I know about your records on 00 agent). You aren't like Summoning Salt, who I can say looks more like a cientist. You are an ambassador, for the whole speedrun community, and those who want to know about it, and this is awesome. I can't imagine a better person to show to the world what speedrun a games is, and why its so fun and beautiful. Thanks for being this legend
It would not look, but rather, sound like this: DUDUDUDU
Nice strumming pattern
The song’s name is “Trance Music for racing game” btw
@@astralcarrot9935 is that what it's called? I am 100% sure this is the mass effect galaxy map theme... I think from ME2 specifically.
I dont know what this is referencing but i interpret it as the first chords of that beethoven(?) song. DUDUDUDUUUU. DU DU DU, DUUUUUU.
@@swallowme535 No they are talking about the doo doo dŌœ in dreams videos
Well I will just answer the question, having dreams “luck”
Yeah i cant beleive he was so lucky
@@hugoland9027 "lucky"
1 in 1.7trillion?
@@hugoland9027 yeah his luck was almost..... impossible
@ElyC West i thought the 1 in 100 million number came from the person he paid to get the math wrong
so he looks into Minecraft speed running because of the Dream scandal... and now he's hooked.
Yeah, hooked to the views Minecraft generates on his channel😄
@@christiannoble5549 it does not seem to generate him more views. It seems like its pretty much the same views as his other videos. (the dream video is controversial so of course it has a heck ton of views)
Dream then collaborates with him...
What Would A 'PERFECT' Minecraft Speedrun Look Like?
TAS speedrunners: Yes
Still can't believe Minecraft speedrunning has become so popular... I always thought many RNG elements dictating a game is bad for speedrunning, because you just get lucky or screwed over without having any impact on that... but here we are for some reason.
I think the way minecraft does rng is a lot more appealing and feels more fair in a way than it does in other games where the rng portions are at a specific point always and you lose time there if you are unlucky, whereas in minecraft literally everything is rng, and and it feels like more of an adventure when looking for structures around the world praying to RNGesus
I think it became so popular because of the creativity and on the fly thinking you don't get with most speedruns. Most speedruns rely entirely on quick reflexes and a total knowledge of the level. For minecraft it's different every time, so you may have to adapt your strategy on the fly
lizard legend exactly, you worded that better than I did
Instructions on how to get Minecraft RSG 1.16 world record in under 5 minutes.
Step 1: Click "generate new world"
Step 2: Have dream luck...
Step 3: Get a seed that players use for set seed that way it still counts as random seed.
Step 4: TIME TO THROW POGCHAMP
I set my render distance to 64 chunks and i can still not find who asked.
@@acumen8566 lmao
the seed used for ssg currently cant actually generate naturally. you have to imput the seed manually to generate it
cherny yes it can, what do you mean? the set seed world is a minecraft seed just like any other, and when you generate a random seed you can get ANY seed, including that one
@@pebble312 Exactly... Sadly not all people have dream luck to get it.
Also, I'm 100% confident that speedrunners will find a better seed. Although that one they use is quite insane already
Step one: Don't call yourself "Dream"
Step two: ?
Step three: Profit
Step 4: Become the Dream
step 2: dont become a minecraft youtube channel
@@onezerosevensix step 56: unsubscribe from dream because he doesn't deserve it anymore
step 57: go outside
step 58: get doxxed by twitter
lol @ Minecravenger's cheated end fight being thought of as incredibly lucky. Quite funny in hindsight.
*therapy:* expensive
*being called an absolute legend by Karl:* free :)
It's crazy to see how much speedrunning has evolved in the last few years
Karl it's always a pleasure, sorry the stans have come out in force.
Anyone who does not know who holds 3 of the "boring 4" and dosen't brag about it must be confused.
Thanks for all your research, you are doing justice to speed running across all categories.
What do stan mean
@@stasheman8920 the idiots who think dream didn't cheat regardless of how many astro lubers he's got. Like trump guys, so far into it they can't fathom anything thing negative. Lost souls.
@@randall1406 but y stan tho
@@stasheman8920 it's like Karen... stan is the pre pubescent child who doesn't care that his idol is a piece of trash.
@@stasheman8920 stan is the overzealous fans. Like Stan from the Eminem song- Stan.
My kids play Minecraft constantly, I've never got it. That said, I've thoroughly enjoyed the videos about the speedrunning aspect of it. Always interesting to hear how those at the top of any competition see it, and what they strive for.
@Frax If I have to mod a game to make it fun for me, I could just play a different game in the first place though.
@Frax Sure, but then it still looks, feels and plays like Minecraft.
If you don't wanna play Minecraft, you can't mod Minecraft to not be Minecraft.
@Frax But then it's clearly not "for everyone" now is it?
@Frax Complaining about sophistics and then using it as well?
I don't like anything about Minecraft, so no, it doesn't have a little something for me.
@Frax Because Karl Jobst could make a video about the inner workings of a fridge and I'd still watch it.
The man is like a less rich Midas, everything he touches turns interesting.
Coming back to this 2 years later and seeing Minecravenger used as an example of the perfect end fight. The game is possibly the worst in history for cheaters.
These collab videos are incredible, I hope you do more!
"the ideal minecraft speedrun is just under 10 minutes" when the wr is 7:45
Even tho I have no clues about SR's I just watch cause Karl is realy addicting to listen too
This video makes me want to replay the Mass Effect trilogy.
Ahah! I knew I recognised the music from somewhere
This is basically trying to figure out gods number for a rubik's cube
Well, for god's number you don't have the human element. It would compare with tools, however
@@DialektLp you're are right but I am just trying to make a comparison
Man, I love that you use the ME soundtrack. It's so soothing music. A little distracting when the nostalgia hits, but you have a compelling narration so it's not really an issue.
10 Months later, Brentilda got that holy grail sub 10
BTW the fastest random seed run is by m8use with a time less than 14 mins. However it's on Bedrock but still it is the fastest Minecraft Speedrun..
Bedrock can’t be compared to java tho
@@johnmckenna3993 But he said the 'Fastest Minecraft Speedrun' which would include bedrock.. If he had said the 'Fastest Minecraft Java Speedrun' then that would have been couriway.
@@johnmckenna3993 why? Arent they like the same Thing?
@@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 not at all. There’s a huge difference in stronghold generation and spawning locations
"speedrunners love a good barrier"
laughs in Wind Waker
I still remember when that was discovered, that was insane
Dream: *Gets this run*
His fans: "He's just lucky"
He got half of it.
@@GeorgeDCowley he got none of it
Actually started tuning in on MC speedruns and by proxy actually playing minecraft after 7 or 8 years thanks to your previous video. Love your stuff and hope to see more
man, I'm proud of couriway. He's really killing the youtube game right now
Couriway: Enters best Nether
*Stand around for 10 seconds*
Pro speedrunner strats, amirite.
he paused, and speedruns are based on in-game time, not IRL time
All these people talking about Karl throwing shade at Dream in this video, but honestly I personally just find it hilarious that Dream decided to cheat and make the chances of the old strategy working higher, instead of finding a new one that was more consistent like the _real_ speedrunners did here. Talk about a lack of flexibility
@@jeremy5434 From the little I've observed, his fans are moreso fatigued and tired from all the drama. They seemed to just be confused about who to believe and decided to drop the issue altogether because they simply don't care. They weren't following him for his legit Minecraft speedrun records, so why bother?
@@detrilogue3174 a good point actually, Dream is famous for his Manhunt series, fucking around with weird scenarios with his friends and doing Unsolved Mysteries, speed running is essentially just a side project out of personal interest on his part.
In the recent controversy I checked Dreams channel and I must admit, the man and his buddies together have a talent for creating good tension and intrigue around a pretty basic premise. I don't blame anyone for enjoying it.
@@tkaine7983 I personally have stayed away from every one of his channels since this whole thing broke out. I watch a lot of speedruns and have a lot of respect for the practice, so seeing someone cheat at it and lie and manipulate the emotions of his fanbase to cover his own trail doesn't sit right with me. I *tried* watching his most recent Manhunt, but that lingering mistrust kind of ate away at my enjoyment of the video. I don't know if the video itself was less enjoyable than his other ones or if I'm just more hesitant to support anything Dream does.
@@detrilogue3174 nice seeing someone else who just cant watch the Manhunts because they dont feel real
just watch any dream speedrun, thats how you find a “perfect” speedrun
Getting those Minecraft views, hey? Good for you, Karl - your videos are awesome, and you deserve many more views and subscribes than you already have. Looking forward to seeing your channel grow even more in 2021! :)
I think there are faster realistic strategies than fastions. If a runner finds a (maybe even completable) ruined portal with a lot of gold (3 blocks in the structure and maybe more in the chest) they could barter while they're collecting rods. It's not as much gold as an ocean monument or a bastion would provide, but it's certainly possible to get all you need with just a little bit of luck, especially if you already have obsidian from the blacksmith or portal chest. Bastion routes take a lot of time compared to passively bartering while you're in the fortress. This could possibly knock two minutes off the time.
The Couriway gang has arrived.
16:35 yesterday a sub 10 happened
Finally someone who doesnt just say "WEll tEChnIcALLy yOu cAn jUsT dIg InTo a 12 eYe"
Could that be a legitimate strategy tho? Just getting beds and checking strongholds for a 12 eye
@@LoLspooktvLoL there is a 1 in 1 trillion chance for a 12 eye Portal then you still need a village and the luck to be close a stronghold so nope ^^
@@RandomMusik my professional mathematician says otherwise
@@LoLspooktvLoL no.
Been subscribed to you for some years now Karl - great to see your channel take off like this! All the best.
Hey Karl Just wanted to say that on bedrock strongholds always spawn beneath a village that means that if you dig beneath a village there is like a 1 in 15 chance you find the stronghold this means a 12 eye random seed speedrun is possible using the advantage of 12 eyes
If you want to know what a perfect speedrun would look like, just ask Dream! Hehe.
_oh shit the stans are coming_
I think you have paranoia because my guess is that stans really don't waste time with unfunny jokes like yours...
@@roblux7370 You really haven't experienced their stupidity then.
@@roblux7370 they're everywhere man! you even mention the man and about 27 internet bodyguards are at your door immediately!
Y'all need to leave twitter. Everyone there is rabid. Take a breath. Go outside. Smell the roses. This goes for dream stans and antis alike.
And don't worry! Tumblr had this phase 8 years ago, you'll all grow out of it ^^
Maybe because you keep making the same comment about "Dream cheated" or "here come the stans" in every single minecraft speedrunning video?
It just gets annoying reading the comments and see the same overused joke over and over.
"What Would A 'PERFECT' Minecraft Speedrun Look Like?" Just ask dream to do a run and he'll show you an trillion to one odd perfect run
1.7 trillion
100 QUADRILLIONS
and then he'll hire an astrophysicist to back him up.
@@ethannakamura96 And then that "astrophysicist" will make beginner mistakes within the research paper
@@ethannakamura96 It's not like he hired him to say "He didn't cheat" he hired him so he could try to prove he didn't cheat.
Is one of the first 1000 people to click the link on the description.
*Leaves it for people who need it more than me*
I know the visual component is a huge part of your channel, but a podcast from you about emergent mechanics would be so ridiculously fascinating. Your voice, presentation, and level of expertise are amazing.
Tbh, RNG in speedruns is just absolute cancer. At least when it's this kind. I can accept the type of RNG that's typical in roguelikes and such, assuming ofc that there's not an ultra-OP path that is speedrun viable and everything else is a failed run, but the kinda RNG where it's "you need to try this 1000 times to get the exact combo you need, and you need luck in two other arenas as well" can just go die in a fire. And it's a horrible viewing experience as well. We want to see skill, not luck.
It really sucks that there's no way of telling which of the top 10 speedruns that actually were the best played, because RNG is so damn important.
bruh just get lucky!?!111
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@@blancogohan 4Head
Minecraft is a horrible game to speedrun that people only speedrun because it’s popular.
@@waluigiisthebest2802 oh boo hoo popular equals bad waaa
@@waluigiisthebest2802 that comes down to opinion
9:32 I see you're rocking that only fans cape. Didn't know you had one of those karl. 😈
LMAO
Mom: "18 minutes until dinner"
Me: *watches this video because let's be honest I couldn't beat Minecraft in that time*
I’m stoked that you are putting out minecraft content. Being such a popular game, hopefully it draws more people in to the epic world of speedruning
I love that you did all of this research on minecraft speedrunning so your dream analysis could be accurate. But then got so interested in it that you made these great minecraft speedrunning videos
Realistically the fastest random seed would be that of the set seed. I know we're talking crazy but realistically if you just got THAT lucky than yeah its possible. Knowing exactly where to place the portal and stuff yeah its nuts but we're talking fastest possible.
That's the Mass Effect music playing in the background, right? I'm not imagining things?
Yeah, he uses it a lot. Classic.
Tas speedrunners in 2030 be like:
New Minecraft WR: 0.1 seconds
That's outdated. It was beaten by 0.1 seconds yesterday.
believe it or not there's a rs glitched 1.8.9 wr with 1.5s. using something called cross world commands
Dont ever stop what you are doing. You are amazing at explaining speedruns, and you voice is so satisfying
It's amazing to see that Jobst gets somewhat of a hype on his channel. The numbers are way too low for the effort and quality the videos contain.
dream's astrophycicist be like:
@David Alexander If you’re a top speedrunner that got caught cheating and also happen to be a big UA-camr with a huge fanbase people are obviously going to shit on you for what you did.
“Imagine hating someone because they cheated in a game. That’s stupid.”
Dream was speedrunning, he likes to speedrun, in fact a lot of people do. And for him, a top runner with a cult following to cheat like that to get an illegitimate record and ruin the name of the community?
These people pour their heart and soul out on speedrunning, it’s their hobby, for someone as big as Dream to cheat and try to cheaply steal a world record is just disappointing, not just for the MC Speedrun community but the entire Minecraft community as a whole. I’m not saying he should be swarmed with hate, but you should understand why some people were mad.
In the end, people are still talking about it because it’s become a meme. It happens to every videogame cheater.
Optic India’s Forsaken? Meme.
Billy Mitchell and Todd Roger? Meme.
Hell, even that guy from Karl’s Doom cheaters vid became a meme.
Just ignore it, Dream himself ignores it.