Master Class - Audio Mixing - 02 Drum Compression
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2014
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James Hurley gives an overview of how to mix drums for your live event audio mixes. This chapter focuses on using compressors for the full drum kit.
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fantastic tutorial this mate well done.. absolutely the best video I've seen on compression. Very well explained indeed! 👌
straight to the point like you do is what we love you for. most of these online teachers will take 1 hour bragging and 10 mins teaching nothing. BRAVO john
This was really well done - thank you for publishing!
thank you sooo much for your great tutorial!! :)) finally opens my eyes on hard compression after more than 10 years doing it
These are the most useful drum mixing videos I've watched...
Thank you so much...
Ready to watch the one about gates!
Subscribed !!!
This is really impressive tutorial - please keep this great content coming
You, sir, are very good at your job.
Awesome explanation and visual of the working effect
all of this is so worth while thank you and carry on
Thank you very much, it sounds much better than before :)
thanks Dude, but want to ask how you were able to link two separate input channel for the kick drum and the bass guitar....will be much appreciated
For the bass drum do you use two mics for the in and out ?
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Great teacher!!! Thanks!
Good video, thank you very much!
YOU ARE THE BEST, THANKS.
Great.. Lots of hearts
Can you give an example on how you would mix a snare and bass drum that have only one mic on each? Excellent information by the way.
Thank you Sir!
thanks a lot sir, i really learn from you
really helpful thanks a lot!
Anyone reading this comment and anyone that made it to 14:26 in the video. That sums all of this up perfectly. “This is a preference.”
I don’t want to be that guy but my only source of income is repeatedly making bands sound good, and I am self taught, I didn’t pay for a bit of education. I started checking out videos again yesterday just cause it doesn’t matter how much you know. You will never know it all, if this was me I would have driven the gain on each mic a lot harder and you’d have a lot more to compress. And would maybe be more informative for people who need to hear a massive difference between compressor on and off. But then I don’t like over compressed drums.
Going back to the point, everything is preference, everything is art, and unless you damage anything there is no wrong way to get to being beautiful.
I wish you all well and good luck on your journeys. Maybe I’ll make a video of how I would do everything? Not to show off or disagree, just I think the point is making the world sound better. And if I can help share that then sign me up.
Peace. x
I like that, my normal job is all about procedures and systems and having specific ways of doing things so with music, while I love getting cool tips and learning from others on youtube, it's nice knowing that there's no set rule or system we have to abide by. It's freeing
Man, you shouldn't talk over the transitions. Your voice is louder than the music. It's hard to hear the differences between w/comp - w/o comp.
Otherwise is one of the most professional tutorial on youtube! Good job!
can anyone please tell me which mixer he's using?
You are the real deal
awesome content
I only have 4 mics on my kit; kick, snare and 2 overheads. I also only have a 2 channel compressor. Should I insert the compressors on the kick and snare, or the overheads? I'm thinking the overheads so I can get better tail from the cymbals and toms.
Either would work well, just with different end results. It's a good idea to experiment to see what you like best.
What would you say about parallel compression when you are already compressing the drums this much?
+froger005 I think it depends on the way the track sounds overall and of course genre. Personlly, I use parallel compression just to make my drums a little bit more crispier. I found it useful on electronic music as well as live (such as rock or hard rock, basically something that has a lot of distorted guitars in it). Tbh, I think it all depends on the preferences and the way you want your track to sound.
How do you insert the tracks into the X32?
on the routing page, select the card ins, rather than the local, or AES50
Drum EQ tips?
What do you think about the mixer? Its theX32 right? Can you recommend it?
I have x32 rack and it’s not bad at all. Go with Midas m32, that one has better preamps, more expensive but the same configuration as on x32. Speaking about routing, you have to get use to.
May just loosen the snare wires a little bit have the same effect as a compressor? ^^ Thanks a lot for the Video, i always like mostly natural stuff, greetz
which mixer are you using in the video
+Pema Dorjee Bhutia Behringer X32
i want my drum to be sound as sweet as possible tell me wat to do
what kind of daw would that. im trying to find a visual compressor like you are using
here
+Michael Woods most compressors will show you all the same information as you are seeing here.
Thanks James.
What is you only have Old School equipment. Like I have an EV BK 8 board (I use just for drums) Into an EV BK 12 Board. Would I have to buy 8 different EQ's for each Drum or How do I do a Whole set of Drums with one EQ and Still get the Awesome Bass Kick punch. I know now that I will need to get a compressor but also how would I use it to do the whole set. I am not talking about a studio mix I want to do this for a live mix lets say in a local bar or at a Small Club
I haven't been able to understand the compressors in the past as most of the sound men I ran into didn't have the time or the want to show me the correct way of using Compressors and most of the music store sales men know less than I do about compressors but they tell me I have to have it and the have a great one just slightly over my budget range. Thank you so much for sharing your hard earned knowledge. Would you recommend any Schools that are close to Southern Maryland where I can take some classes or do you recommend any classes I could take at the local Community Collage to take that will help me with sound engineering or how I can use the stuff I have to be a sound man for local bands?
Also could you show how to compress a whole kit with one Compressor like one Rack mounted compressor from just the drum board
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cool. helpful
i'd love an equivalent for synthetic drums but still this was awesome
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Let's get rid of the hold.
Nice one Mr Hurley
I hope you could train me one on one
Great Videos, in a easy to understand way.
Thanks!
Wouldn’t a slower release give you less “tail” since the tail of a transient is already soft, a slow release is continuing to compress an already softer part of a sound. Whereas a faster release would stop compressing sooner, and once make-up gain is added the “tail” is now louder giving you more sustain.
Is the kick in the kick mic, and the kick out the sub kick?
Hi Mathew, both are kick mics', its just the kick-in mic captures more of the snap. So due to it being relatively close to the beater head, it would be behind all that air. The kick out mic is in front of the wave, therefore allowing the wave to have enough time to develop... hence the name sub-kick for the microphone being used for this purpose. Hope that helps clear things up a little bit. Best of luck friend.
So he is using one mic inside close to beater and one outside?
Matthew Warrenfells Yes.
Snare bleed killed it for me.
Yeah dude! now i can work on Superior drummer lot better dude.. thanks !
ppl , if you are here watching this video and relating it with studio mixing , you are in the wrong direction. This is more for live situations. Read the description. That explains why a little bit overboard on snare compression since in a live environment is not a consistent transient response specially from the snare.
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The tracks are much too quiet.
I agree! The voice over needs to come down a bit, and the drums need to come up. But overall, this series is incredibly helpful. My drum sound has improved to the point were people are telling me how good it sounds. Thank you for this!
Not with good headphones
Yes. I'm using good headphones: Sony MDR-7506. They're not the best, just pretty damn good. The voice over needs to come down and the drums need to go up. . . Just a little. This vid is otherwise excellent.
+evensteve284 right
You intro music is made up of Reason stock samples 😂. Been years since I heard those bad boys.
I don't get why you mix on unity and build around it with your gain.. normally you try to get an even level on the input gain and adjust the mix with the faders.
Clint Il Sung fader resolution
Its a master class...but your explaining the absolute basics...
EVERYBODY arguing about slower release theory......Why are you here if you are the expert?
Probably because they have an interest in mixing, people are allowed to have opinions bud
what ever you do, do not assume that every compressor setting is going to be this low. on the threshold.
+David Jaycox Yes, the thresholds are a result of having to run this console in that environment too quiet. Pay attention to the gain reduction as I emphasized.
It's pumping way too much
Why is it these engineers don't understand that a longer release time is actually choking out the sustain on their drums. So dumb.
He actually explains it the right way in this video though...
It's not. Longer release = longer compression = louder = why? Cause compression 😎
Jesse Fishman longer compression would NOT mean louder. A slow release would continue to compress the tail end of a transient. A fast release would stop compressing sooner, so once proper make-up gain is added the tail would actually be louder with a fast release. Not a slow one. His description of a slow attack adding more punch and aggression is true, but his description of the release is backwards. A fast release will actually give you more sustain, and a slow release will sound more transparent/natural, bringing down the entirety of the drum hit.
100 ms isn't long all, he says long but it's pretty fast, a lot of hardware compressors dont even go so fast...
You need to back down your voice over or gain on your tracks.
Yo great video! Hail Trump!