Quiet hiring has been a thing for decades lol. Rather than training a workforce, they just put more on their current employee's plate without a pay raise. This practice is what caused quiet quitting and the great resignation in the first place
I used to love the business I'd was employed at then they started just cutting positions, I seen the invincible handwriting on the wall for this business, so I told my boss I like to retire, and I did. They had tons of work but as soon as somebody left, they shut down that position and expected the rest of the employers to do all these jobs plus their job and they became very micro-managing it be ok, but it felt like people was asked to do a lot more with no increase in pay. I am super glad I did retire. because this was in year 2014 when I retired out of this business, I have no idea what happen to the position I used to work but I had over 30 years with this business, from me being older and I realize I could not keep Pase with the younger people I just retired the job itself was very great I really love the work.
With "quiet hiring" what is the best thing or smart way for the employee to deploy "quiet quitting"? I mean they overload your plate, so how do you get away with it smartly?
@@yannip2083 Best way is to quit, look for other jobs and repeat the process every time they force you to take on more than what the position required in the first place.
@@yannip2083 best way is to look for another job and when you get an offer give your current employer little if any notice. If they actually care enough to do an exit interview maybe you can inform them of their toxic practice, but they probably already know and don't care.
Yes that's the whole point and It's worth Noting How Circumstances , including primiraly geo politics, has got so aligned with Given Fact; That You could either expect for more ,in anticipation, or Settle in middle, if not The Bottom-line for a Given period of Time and for the work you're hired For!!
@@Viviko If the possibilities offered by automation are indeed limitless, it will replace most positions eventually, even yours. Goddamn you've made a fantastic arguement for starting up UBI sooner rather than later.
It’s interesting to see the 180 degree viewpoints of these ‘experts’ defining the benefit or disadvantage of quiet hiring based on what firm they work for & who’s paying their salary.
That's so true. When looking at job postings, most of the ones in my area are requiring at least 3 years work experience just because people don't want to deal with training people. So I've been working for a non-profit group that can't afford to pay higher than minimum wage, and dealing with staff shortages. This past summer, I ended up doing way more than I was hired to do just because it wouldn't have gotten done otherwise. It really does work better as a team, and I wish more people realized that. At least in my case, there are a few more volunteers now who are willing to share the extra tasks so I can focus on the things that use my skills.
It's amazing when the profits are at records and the mid and top level management keep getting bonuses and increased pay while they can't scrounge 1/100th of that for shoring up the low level staff which keeps everything operating.
@ghost mall Yep, my shop was told this year they didn't have enough in the budget for raises, but they did have an extra $15 million laying around to get into powersports equipment.... So now I've learned how to repair ATVs and Quad bikes and my wages have not moved....
Some businesses do. I love my job and my team. They invest ridiculous amounts in us, but we're expected to perform at very high levels in a very complex field.
And as soon as the pay increases across the board then greedy real estate investors and prices for goods and services will follow suit. There will never be a balance. I do hope y’all realize that. Then hello hyperinflation 😍.
Just be Quiet and work more while your pay stagnates even more since inflation is sky high and those yachts for the C-suite are getting more expensive.
Its a euphemism for exploitation, but they try to convince you its an opportunity. After all, you're getting valuable training that you can leverage later on down the road...except that they have no intention of promotions or increasing your compensation, so for you to actually leverage it, you'll have to leave the company and apply somewhere else where your shiny new skill set can net you the wages the original company didn't want to pay. And then they complain that nobody wants to work anymore and that's why there's a labor shortage...
Yeah, you're a good worker so we are going to reward you with more work and take the money we save from other people quitting for ourselves and our shareholders and if you demand a pay raise we will shame you into putting up with doing extra work for nothing. How dare you
I their minds: Why will you quit if they are giving you the chance to grow your skills? In a mandatory way, on top of all the responsabilities you already have. That's just bad management. Mostly that f*cking middle management that tries to maximize profit and reduce cost at the expense of their employees.
Not everyone can afford to quit, that is sad but true. I assume the response is the usual one, you accept extra responsibility and either accept you won’t be able to fulfill them or you will burnout. If they are doing this not to hire then they won’t fire you, hopefully. Let them fail key business objectives.
Management and executives I don't think really care as long as they're being taking care of. It's sad honestly, but I think it's been going on for years.
My soon-to-be former company started doing this last year and was a horrible decision on their part. I work for a large Health care company that no one wants to work for so they started throwing more and more roles into my department with no compensation. 75% of my department has quit, and 300 employees are now gone with no replacements. Might work in certain fields but might also blow up in your face.
My call center is currently doing this and they do not care, they just keep rehiring and retraining and forcing those who stay longterm to suffer more. They also have a 6 month benefit scheme that rarely less than half the new hires reach so they make up for it in other ways
The place where I worked basically did that starting 20 years ago. I thought it would help to get involved as a union rep. but that only made things more complicated. I wound up taking an early retirement because between the extremely long hours and an injury caused by the job (which I’m still trying to get fixed) it became too much. When I speak to some of my old coworkers, I’m stunned at how much worse it has become. AI and automation can’t happen fast enough, but then what will that lead to. Where this ends J.A. I have no idea...
I’ve been with my company for eight months part time. I’ve been trained for three departments! And end up covering others as well. All the while, pushing credit cards! Must make the profits for the CEO and stockholders!
This is why employees are not "loyal" anymore. If the only way to get a raise is to switch companies every year or two, that's what ambitious, hardworking employees are going to do. Wages have been stagnant for decades. Inflation ks creeping higher and higher. Employees are expected to pay the economic cost, and they're refusing!
@@II-mw8qh Awww a baby millennial that has no clue about the past. Americans sacrificed their health, wellbeing and were always and are hard working and yes we were loyal. Until Reaganomics. And greed is good became the code word. Or I should say phrase
Dress it up however you like with positive PR. It's called temp work or secondments. It's a sign of a crap employer and one who tries to overwork their staff to maximise profits. It never affects those at the top.
At my last job, I was given more work and I took on more roles but was not given a raise. They told me I was one of the top performers and they know I could handle it. When I spoke up about it, I was told to “ deal with it “. On top of that, they promoted my coworker who I previously reported for harrassing me yet they refused to promote me or give me a raise for doing multiple jobs in one. I quit a month after that. Fortunately I did find a new job. If companies keep doing this, they will keep losing their employees. If you want to put more work on your employees than what they were initially hired for, pay them more.
With Boomers retiring, they (employers) will be sh t out of luck. The talent pool is shrinking and getting more savvy like you just described. This is not the 90s or 2010s anymore.
@@dannydaw59 Most of the times, the companies will let you leave, content in their assessment that there's going to be plenty of cannon fodder to replace you. They'll whine about no one wants to work (at their condition), buy another yacht and go about with a skeleton crew until there's someone desperate enough to hire (and fire). The problem is, the working pool is shrinking and GenZ isn't willing to eat dirt like GenX and Millennials did.
“Fundamentally, we don’t have enough talent right now…” Translation: “Fundamentally, we’re not prepared to pay appropriate remuneration for work done and are desperate to maximise profit for executives and returns on investment…”
And Boomers are retiring in numbers, leaving companies without cannon fodder (GenXers are a small generation and Millennials and Zers are too savvy to get shafted over and over).
@@jimbojimbo6873 Good talent is hard to come by because they spent decades squeezing the old workers dry while refusing to train the new generations. It's like eating up all of the fruit from a tree instead of saving some to plant for more fruit later.
amazing how they report on everything EXCEPT the abuse and overreaching of the corporations causing the quiet quitting. not 'nobody wants to work' lvls... but a true 'old man yelling at cloud' kinda vibes
As employee in Malaysia, I can say there's NEVER quiet hiring, its always quiet abusing(employer wants each employee to do more jobs without extra salary/bonus, and obviously no extra job position).The most funny part is the employer still dumb founded and ask why you quit.....lol
Layoffs are not needed except during COVID lockdown periods. For low salary jobs, there is always in need for more employees. For office jobs, since companies are using less ppl to do more work, there shouldn't be a layoff needed. All they worry about is whether enough existing employees to "hand over", when someone quits. So most ppl either do business or go overseas. There are more companies than employees here, and government is not making foreign workers cheaper to hire. (random BS opinion)The government loves to make the country become Malays only. They will do all it takes like indirectly saying all races hate each other(news), Malays are native ppl(school), give free ID for foreigners(election), etc. Clearly they are busy on some important things that they don't have time to improve economy. They print money for themselves(mainly not for country benefit) and praying to god. They should read Indonesia history about rich Indonesian migrate out. I don't hate Malays, I hate their decisions.
@@caojidan8913 Interesting! More businesses than employees there! What is the average pay there? People mostly do what business there? Just wondering what countries are people moving to? I heard some Americans moved to Malaysia for early retirement because of lower cost of living there, instead of searching for the next job in the U.S.
@@yannip2083 Sorry, I exaggerate about business more than employee, but it does feel like that though. For storefront, salary about RM1k/month, while office jobs about RM3k. They do Bubble tea business. Usually ppl go Singapore, Australia, China, and UK. (this is my opinion) I believe the Malaysia currency will consistently decrease over time compare to other currencies, so if you earn other currencies, then Malaysia will just become more and more low cost living.
I work in healthcare and my former employer started creeping this in on us over 10 years ago. When someone quit, we all had to "pull together as a team" to cover the work... well it never ended.. When I brought it up I was asked if I needed more time, as if I had slowed down. I finally quit that job (quiet quitting) and went on to something much better. 8 months later they finally found my replacements.. they hired two people and are now adding another part time. so it will come around one way or another.
Exactly the medical assistant at my other workplace they were working her to death … now that she quit the looking to hire two people because she was doing the work as three she was the only MA in the office these jobs truly sick
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Quiet hiring, as they're calling it here, is the entire reason for Quiet Quitting and the Great Resignation. The employment paradigm has shifted and these companies are failing to adapt. We no longer have to compete with each other for employment, the companies need to compete for workers... This is a great thing, and the beginning of positive change, potentially. It is the (labor) market correcting itself.
These days ... even with massive layoffs, there is still a shortage of labor because more and more people are moving out of the U.S. to lower cost of living countries like Mexico, South America, South East Asia, etc. They say let Corporate America sink!
Got tired of all my coworkers being silent and deadly. I would always tell them “stop hiding it! Be loud and proud and let it all out!” I got sent to HR the next day and that’s when I had enough of it and decided to quietly quit.
So quiet hiring sounds like a way for employers to assign more work without promotions or raises and skirting benefits by using contractors instead of hiring more employees
Hiring has not changed, companies are looking get the most they can for the least amount of money out of each employee. I they can tease them into putting forth an extraordinary amount of work with the hope of future compensation, they'll do it -- for a while. Once they see the company culture from the inside and how it works, they get jaded and realize certain positions have a direct affect on your job and compensation, that's when the thrill is gone.
This practice is backfiring at my organization, people are leaving in droves as people are tired of being forced to do work since the pandemic started that isn't part of their jobs and they aren't getting paid for it. What used to be a desirable place to work with a lot of long term knowledgable employees has turned into a bunch of limited duration positions that don't know their job and keep getting shuffled around.
So who else is quitting bc of this? Literally hired for certain position, ended up doing more than was told, asked for a raise they still haven’t gotten back to me and now I’m leaving. Ridiculous how they think you’re gonna stay
American "quiet hiring" means the employer loading and over-loading the employee's plate with more and more work but no extra pay ... not necessarily outsourcing. American "quiet quitting" means the employee doing the bare minimum work to buy time for his/her paycheck.
@@Drilling249 imagine you went to work at McDonald's as a burger flipper being paid minimum wage, you've done your job so well the manager decides to make you assistant manager with no increase in pay. You were perfectly happy doing the low stress job you originally signed on for. Congratulations! You have been quietly hired.
This reminds me of when I was interested in web development years ago and wanted to start as a back end engineer and found that companies were commonly giving one person the responsibilities of web designer, front end engineer, and back end engineer. It would take a lot of dedicated work as a freelancer to be hired as a double engineer and designer.
I run my own web an app development business for 15 years until I was forced to quit in 2013 on the account of having a complete mental breakdown over a massive project that had gone bad due to interference from a textbook example nightmare client. I was doing all the graphic design, the user interface design, the CMS programming, the database,.... Even inputting the products and product content, testing...etc, etc. The business had grown to a point where a single person could simply do it and survive.
@@LuisLopez2 My work now expects me to fuction as a service advisor, short order technician, inventory control specialist, customer service specialist, and diagnostic technician. There are not enough hours in the week to cover all of those roles. I have the skillsets to do ALL of them, but I physically and mentally cannot do it. If I walk away this whole shop will crumble. Right now I want to see that more than anything.
@SomeReturn no, it was a Drupal 7 e-commerce project. And of course I had a tight contract. Just because you have tight contract doesn't mean that it doesn't go bad.
I quiet quit yesterday. I was the last employee standing at 3pm with 5 managers. I left at 4 because of quiet hiring practices. This video reease was great timing
@@WeisseEdelweissthis is the case at my job. Because it's a family business. I'm only there , because I'm paid ok for what little I do. Tons of people have came, and went. I watch UA-cam half of the day, and refuse to do heavy work.
One side said its good because it helps gain more skills but no salary increase etc.? The other said it’s not good because its abuse and exploitation, etc. for the benefit of a company at the end of the day… Clearly you can see who has a heart and who doesn’t to their employees
We (America) are the ONLY developed nation with zero mandatory vacation days, zero maternity/paternity leave, ridiculous at-will employment where companies can fire you for looking at your boss the wrong way, zero loyalty to good employees, etc. Generally speaking, employees are not the bad guys in this country.
Quiet hiring = giving more work to existing employees (BS) or contractors /temp workers which is also BS these people get no benefits or PTO. Quiet quitting phrase is BS too people my age are always looking for more pay and stay where they are until that happens because stuff is so expensive more pay is always needed
This mess caused me to have to do the work of three people! Although I loved my job, I was getting paid almost half of what I was supposed to get paid and I have a degree. I had an increase in pay but it was super minimal. The company ended up going under when COVID hit
I’m a RN. Hospitals in my area want to hire for 30-45 an hour for RN’s and refuse to pay more. Using the “we can’t afford it” excuse. Then those same companies hire travel RN’s for 60-80 an hour and happily pay them. So to “save money” on fulltime employees, hospitals in my area pay travelers nearly double. Makes no sense.
I think this has potential to be problematic more than hopeful. Its being used as a means to add to people’s job requirements without increasing wages. I’ve seen this happen at my current job, where instead of paying us for upskill training or even offering it as an opportunity, it is now instead expected of us and they won’t increase our wages. I’ve hit the ceiling in terms of growth. I think this will become rampant in low wage jobs.
I think employers need to realize that the vast majority of workers work to live… they don’t live to work. Very few companies look after their workers. They only look after shareholders and that is the problem. And the one lady who said that it is a failure of management to plan and forecast headcount is right. That is the problem where I work. All the managers have full time jobs aside from actually “managing” and they don’t have time to plan or forecast anything. Everyone has to go 90 mph all day, everyday to keep up because we’ve been told that there isn’t any need to hire more people even though business has nearly doubled in the past four years and we still have the same headcount. And now people are starting to quit. Particularly the high functioning, work horses, who have finally had enough.
Quiet hiring has been going on for decades. If you work in healthcare then you’ve definitely experienced this. In a nutshell it does backfire people are quitting in droves.
And when will we hear about Quiet Firing? Like not promoting employees, cutting hours, excluding them from meetings, and not hearing their ideas or concerns?....
Most people wouldn’t mind taking on the extra work or working extra hours when needed if employers would just compensate their employees for it. It shouldn’t be a hard concept to understand, and yet corporations/managers refuse to acknowledge that unfortunately because it doesn’t benefit them
I wish the news would focus on how ridiculous HR job posts are. Requiring 3-5 years of experience and a Masters Degree for something labeled as “entry level” employment is out of hand
THIS HAS HAPPENED TO ME AND MY TEAM AND WERE FIGHTING BACK! We are doing accounting, budgeting, customer care, etc etc. it is unrealistic and we are overworked! They promoted the lazy workers and the hardworkers are the bottom pickers. They are even setting up processes for us to run their business as our personal business. The only issues is we are the ONLY employees of our “business “
I love how they call quiet hiring smart instead of exploitative and call quiet quiting lazy, irresponsible, entitled instead of wat it was doing what your paid to do
"Companies might be hesitant to hire new workers, but the work still needs to be done, so companies are able to lean on their existing employees." I think you meant, "...so companies are able to *exploit* existing employees."
When in the process of being hired they spoke about titles. I said look i could care less about a title. You can call me a janitor and I'd be cool. My only requirement is a base salary of $110k. I got $112k and bonuses.
this serves as a great example as why people are quiet quitting. Wages have not kept up with cost-of-living yet bosses expect workers to do more and more .work harder for no increases in wages while oftentimes watching as others benefit exponentially more off of their work... Absolutely ridiculous.
Omg! That's just called outsourcing work to contractors or external consultants. Seriously don't understand why these terms always magically come from the US . Lol
I've been cross trained in 6 different departments. The only thing they ask me to do is sometimes consult, because fresh eyes and fresh thinking are sometimes what you need to solve a problem. This company used to abuse it's employees but after a buyout and new ownership they went from that overwork the people family style to a more by the numbers corporate style. I just wish more people knew they could say "No" to their managers if it's not part of their job and it's out of their comfort zone. You wouldn't ask a billing rep to fix a networking error. So why ask a network specialist to handle product damages?
I've worked on and off as a quiet hire since graduating. I'm engineer, and have done most of my work in the auto industry. This is definitely nothing new when it comes to engineering. Having seasoned people without the baggage of a person on the books is what most companies like. You want to be full-time, you perform, you want to leave, you leave.
Why would they? You are forgetting that companies many and only focus is to maximize profits for shareholders/owners. CEOs bonuses are tied to profits they bring. Remember the employee is just a tool they use. Once the usefulness of the tool is no more they will through the tool out like yesterday’s trash.
I was hired without an interview for my current job. I got the job offer and signed it. I didn't talk to anybody until my background check went through and they called to see when I wanted to start. That is quiet hiring to me. Lol. They just hired me based off of my resume.
Person A quits. Company splits the work of Person A between Persons B and C. This is not new. I'm fine with this as long as the overall expectations for the remaining staff remains the same, say their overall workload had decreased or you invested in tools to let them work more productively. This has not been my personal experience.
this news coming from the "incredible" and "wonderful" USA is strange, in brazil this is called job function deviation, it is a law since 1943. If this happens in brazil, the company is obliged by law to change/increase the employee's salary for the function he will perform. And it's not a law that few people know about, it's very popular with the vast majority of those who work
So basically extra responsibility with no extra pay? They have been doing that for as long as I have been alive. Why act like employers just started doing this? Why you think quiet quitting is happening in the first place?
When I worked at a small company, at the start of any given quarter you could be called up one day and told you have a completely new role. It happened all the time. Didn’t have a name for it though at the time.
A new trend we seem to be seeing is that employers are putting out 'Help Wanted' ads online, BUT they are not really hiring. I know of two people that have applied over and over and over again, but don't even get an acknowledgment. If they do it's a 'no'. Maybe there isn't a labor shortage after all......
Whoever's reading this, i pray that whatever you're going through gets better and whatever you're struggling with or worrying about is going to be fine and that everyone has a fantastic day! Amen
Causing people to do more & more with no salary increase … then firing them when you think the profits are not as insanely high as a board thinks it should be … what a world.
More emphasis must be placed on not only finding a job, but also finding a job that people can do well and learn quickly. Few companies and managers today want to invest the time, money, and PATIENCE to train people. Lots of companies are so short staffed. Managers, too, must be adequately trained to be professional at all times and relate to many different types of people. In my lifetime thus far, I've encountered so few managers who are genuinely qualified to lead and manage others. In every industry, managers today are so incredibly unprofessional, impatient, and even cruel. It's no wonder why employees aren't staying at companies long enough to become tenured staff. Personally, I'm not going to tolerate anyone disrespecting and belittling me when you're not even paying me that much money to begin with and there are so many other places to work that pay the same or slightly more. So, companies must think about that.
I have been “quiet hired” several times in my career but I was always aware what they were doing and made it clear with my org that it’s going to be temporary. I understood they needed to check if I was a good fit for the role for some time but my condition is that if I prove that I am, they will officially move me to that role I am temporarily filling in. It has almost always worked in my favor except that one time in my first job. This allowed me to get promoted 4 times in 5 years and tripled my salary at the same time. That one time that it didn’t work out, I just gave myself and my manager an ultimatum and then I quit.
I remember when I used to work for large companies. They would use the term “cross training” to imply that if something happened then you could fill in a hole. However you would usually just end up being responsible for two jobs. Also the term lateral move, meaning this job doesn’t get you more pay but opens up a promotion chain for you to be able to grow. Then you’d just end up doing two jobs. Burn out rates were high and the solid citizens of the company would bet who would be next to take the bait and burn out
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The only thing new I see here is people making up new labels for the same things that have gone on forever. Perhaps, they've forgotten downsizing, or rightsizing, or a ton of other management-speak labels form the past. Every few years someone needs to write a new book and has little new to say, so they make up new ways to say the same things.
A couple of things. First, quiet hiring is an issue that has existed within the field of education since the dawning of time! It is not uncommon for people in education to be given tasks that are outside of their role because the school doesn't have the budget or doesn't want to hire an additional body to do the job. Second, if employers would just take the time to train people and invest in their employees they wouldn't have this problem. The issue is that they don't want to train people because they don't want to invest the time. So they bring in contractors sometimes for contracts that are 12 months long, 18 months long, etc because they don't have to train these contractors and they also don't have to provide them with benefits. I wish employers and these larger companies would see that if they would just invest in people spend 6 months training them they would be able to retain staff for longer periods of time. Instead what they do is they either quiet higher their employees or bring in contractors leading to people feeling burnt out and their turnover continues to be high.
“Quiet hiring is smart business strategy” spoken like the problematic robot-companies that keep real people overworked and underpaid. My previous employers had trouble getting anyone hired(probably due to their low wages) and started adding more to our workload without increasing pay. Found a position at another business with just about the same responsibilities and now making nearly double. We have to speak up for ourselves, otherwise companies will continue to do what they think they can get away with
Lol it’s funny how she said the hiring manager spends a lot of time trying to find a replacement when it’s part of their “JOB!” To do so! The old management team I worked for told me their job is to only supervise what we do and refused to be involved in the work. As soon as I turned in my resignation letter they were no longer on vacation mode and panicked by first saying “who is going to do all your tasks when you leave” it’s the manager’s responsibility to hire, train, retain and replace staff when needed and if they don’t want to do it then find another job that doesn’t require that kind of responsibility!
@@neelrastardust3052 people think being a manager is a perk but to be honest I would never want that honor or should I say burden on me. A manager is kind of like the business owner who is really not. They have the responsibility of what you expect the owner of the business should have however managers are just hired to carry that burden without being the actual owners of the company or business.
Every problem goes back to a WAGE SHORTAGE. Not a lack of personell, not a lack of will, it is not reinvesting MONETARILY in your workforce that causes these issues. Clutching your purse costs you in the long run. The stingy man pays the most.
Quit hiring only happened to me when I was making a huge career change. 6 years with one private bank and I go to leave and they begged me to stay and offered me “potential” positions that I knew I had 0 interest in. I left in great terms but it’s sad that it took them 6 years, a bad job market, and me leaving, for them to realize my potential.
Asking employees to do more means that you must increase their pay. As someone who used to do everything I could, I realized I was taken advantage of and will not be doing that again
Adding more responsibility without increasing compensation sounds like a pretty raw deal for employees. Isn't that what spurred quiet quitting in the first place? "Opportunities" are great if they give benefits to the employees, but when all it does is shove more work on someone without additional compensation or even a guarantee of a promotion within a set timeframe, then it stops being an opportunity and is instead exploitation. Also, I noticed many of those leadership folk who were quoted used dehumanizing language. Talking about redistributing and using talent...that talent is people. People who deserve fair compensation for their work. You're going to have a hard time convincing employees that "quiet hiring" is beneficial to them if you can't even acknowledge that these are fellow human beings, not "talent" or "bodies" or "resources" to be used/abused/exploited.
These practices are the reason "Quiet Quitting" became a thing. This is a snuff peace to push you back into the stable. Get In There! And start NEIGHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🤣
Asking employees to do more outside their role is called “exploitation”
I would care if capitalism itself wasn't already exploitative.
@@Berserk1Manga Yea and socialism is so caring...
@@aenews132 oh here we go. Socialism hasn't even been practiced. So I'm not so sure you even know what it is.
@@Berserk1Manga here we go again. Another self hating liberal in denial because socialism has failed anywhere it’s been attempted
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It has... several times in fact. How many times must you put the fork in the socket before you realize you'll get shocked?
Quiet hiring has been a thing for decades lol. Rather than training a workforce, they just put more on their current employee's plate without a pay raise. This practice is what caused quiet quitting and the great resignation in the first place
I used to love the business I'd was employed at then they started just cutting positions, I seen the invincible handwriting on the wall for this business, so I told my boss I like to retire, and I did.
They had tons of work but as soon as somebody left, they shut down that position and expected the rest of the employers to do all these jobs plus their job and they became very micro-managing it be ok, but it felt like people was asked to do a lot more with no increase in pay. I am super glad I did retire. because this was in year 2014 when I retired out of this business, I have no idea what happen to the position I used to work but I had over 30 years with this business, from me being older and I realize I could not keep Pase with the younger people I just retired the job itself was very great I really love the work.
With "quiet hiring" what is the best thing or smart way for the employee to deploy "quiet quitting"? I mean they overload your plate, so how do you get away with it smartly?
@@yannip2083 Best way is to quit, look for other jobs and repeat the process every time they force you to take on more than what the position required in the first place.
@@yannip2083 best way is to look for another job and when you get an offer give your current employer little if any notice. If they actually care enough to do an exit interview maybe you can inform them of their toxic practice, but they probably already know and don't care.
It’s called exploration.
And THIS is why quiet quitting exists. Because if employees don't draw their boundaries, employers will inevitably ask them to do more and more.
Yes that's the whole point and It's worth Noting How Circumstances , including primiraly geo politics, has got so aligned with Given Fact; That You could either expect for more ,in anticipation, or Settle in middle, if not The Bottom-line for a Given period of Time and for the work you're hired For!!
That’s fine. Automation will just replace you. Plus, it’s cheaper for the business.
When quiet hiring goes wrong, that is exactly my point in this interview. Sweta Regmi, Teachndo
@@Viviko If the possibilities offered by automation are indeed limitless, it will replace most positions eventually, even yours. Goddamn you've made a fantastic arguement for starting up UBI sooner rather than later.
It’s interesting to see the 180 degree viewpoints of these ‘experts’ defining the benefit or disadvantage of quiet hiring based on what firm they work for & who’s paying their salary.
"we dont have enough talent". AKA you don't want to train people, you want 1 person to do the job of 2 people.
As every southerner's meemaw always used to say, "People in hell want ice water."
Only 2?
That's so true. When looking at job postings, most of the ones in my area are requiring at least 3 years work experience just because people don't want to deal with training people. So I've been working for a non-profit group that can't afford to pay higher than minimum wage, and dealing with staff shortages. This past summer, I ended up doing way more than I was hired to do just because it wouldn't have gotten done otherwise. It really does work better as a team, and I wish more people realized that. At least in my case, there are a few more volunteers now who are willing to share the extra tasks so I can focus on the things that use my skills.
You don't want to pay people their worth...
Instead of making up slogans, offer good pay and invest in your employees. Not that hard, but businesses refuse to do that.
It's amazing when the profits are at records and the mid and top level management keep getting bonuses and increased pay while they can't scrounge 1/100th of that for shoring up the low level staff which keeps everything operating.
@ghost mall Yep, my shop was told this year they didn't have enough in the budget for raises, but they did have an extra $15 million laying around to get into powersports equipment.... So now I've learned how to repair ATVs and Quad bikes and my wages have not moved....
You want to put HR out of job ?
Some businesses do. I love my job and my team. They invest ridiculous amounts in us, but we're expected to perform at very high levels in a very complex field.
And as soon as the pay increases across the board then greedy real estate investors and prices for goods and services will follow suit. There will never be a balance. I do hope y’all realize that. Then hello hyperinflation 😍.
So "quiet hiring" is a euphemism for "be glad you have a job, work harder"
What's the quiet part? Is that the part where your wages are small enough to be like a whisper?
Just be Quiet and work more while your pay stagnates even more since inflation is sky high and those yachts for the C-suite are getting more expensive.
Its a euphemism for exploitation, but they try to convince you its an opportunity. After all, you're getting valuable training that you can leverage later on down the road...except that they have no intention of promotions or increasing your compensation, so for you to actually leverage it, you'll have to leave the company and apply somewhere else where your shiny new skill set can net you the wages the original company didn't want to pay. And then they complain that nobody wants to work anymore and that's why there's a labor shortage...
@@azmodanpc oh no, they are still the same. They just want to continue to get higher bonuses
Yeah, you're a good worker so we are going to reward you with more work and take the money we save from other people quitting for ourselves and our shareholders and if you demand a pay raise we will shame you into putting up with doing extra work for nothing. How dare you
This is why I quit my job and got a different one with less stress, 50 percent less work, 30 percent more pay
That’s great, way to go!!!!
My different job is 92.3% less stress, 90% less work and 70% more pay plus benefits.
@@roucoupse What job is that? Please share some ideas ...
Same. At 28 i earn $112k + quarterly bonus, fully remote, great benefits, 401k 6% match, and probably only do 35hrs/week. I'm a happy camper.
@@djm2189 what field are you in?
It’s honestly quite astounding management and executives don’t realize this is the type of bs that will get people to quit
I their minds: Why will you quit if they are giving you the chance to grow your skills? In a mandatory way, on top of all the responsabilities you already have. That's just bad management. Mostly that f*cking middle management that tries to maximize profit and reduce cost at the expense of their employees.
Not everyone can afford to quit, that is sad but true. I assume the response is the usual one, you accept extra responsibility and either accept you won’t be able to fulfill them or you will burnout. If they are doing this not to hire then they won’t fire you, hopefully. Let them fail key business objectives.
Management and executives I don't think really care as long as they're being taking care of. It's sad honestly, but I think it's been going on for years.
Not everyone has a choice to quit
To them it’s easier to higher at entry level pay exhausting that’s position than to give a raise to the same person m.
My soon-to-be former company started doing this last year and was a horrible decision on their part. I work for a large Health care company that no one wants to work for so they started throwing more and more roles into my department with no compensation. 75% of my department has quit, and 300 employees are now gone with no replacements. Might work in certain fields but might also blow up in your face.
Like airlines
My call center is currently doing this and they do not care, they just keep rehiring and retraining and forcing those who stay longterm to suffer more. They also have a 6 month benefit scheme that rarely less than half the new hires reach so they make up for it in other ways
Meanwhile the CEO's and other at the top are making more than ever. They just don't want to pay workers a fair wage.
Even if the employees were paid more would they still get burned out and quit?
Lol
It's exploitation of the worker, period. Employers won't pay extra when employees are cross-training and covering multiple roles.
The place where I worked basically did that starting 20 years ago. I thought it would help to get involved as a union rep. but that only made things more complicated. I wound up taking an early retirement because between the extremely long hours and an injury caused by the job (which I’m still trying to get fixed) it became too much. When I speak to some of my old coworkers, I’m stunned at how much worse it has become. AI and automation can’t happen fast enough, but then what will that lead to. Where this ends J.A. I have no idea...
Exactly my point on this interview, Sweta Regmi, Teachndo
Totally true! And no way to take vacations without disrupting the company function!
I’ve been with my company for eight months part time. I’ve been trained for three departments! And end up covering others as well. All the while, pushing credit cards! Must make the profits for the CEO and stockholders!
@@yogawithjengentleyoga3614 Verizon for me.
This is why employees are not "loyal" anymore. If the only way to get a raise is to switch companies every year or two, that's what ambitious, hardworking employees are going to do. Wages have been stagnant for decades. Inflation ks creeping higher and higher. Employees are expected to pay the economic cost, and they're refusing!
Employees were never loyal
@@II-mw8qh this isn’t true. Plenty of American workers stayed at jobs for decades because pensions and excellent benefits incentivized them to.
@@II-mw8qh Awww a baby millennial that has no clue about the past. Americans sacrificed their health, wellbeing and were always and are hard working and yes we were loyal. Until Reaganomics. And greed is good became the code word. Or I should say phrase
Well if that's the case, then let's prepare for another recession and beg for change until it finally happens...if ever...lol
Isn’t this why there was quiet quitting? 🙄
Dress it up however you like with positive PR. It's called temp work or secondments. It's a sign of a crap employer and one who tries to overwork their staff to maximise profits. It never affects those at the top.
At my last job, I was given more work and I took on more roles but was not given a raise. They told me I was one of the top performers and they know I could handle it. When I spoke up about it, I was told to “ deal with it “. On top of that, they promoted my coworker who I previously reported for harrassing me yet they refused to promote me or give me a raise for doing multiple jobs in one. I quit a month after that. Fortunately I did find a new job. If companies keep doing this, they will keep losing their employees. If you want to put more work on your employees than what they were initially hired for, pay them more.
With Boomers retiring, they (employers) will be sh t out of luck. The talent pool is shrinking and getting more savvy like you just described. This is not the 90s or 2010s anymore.
Find another job in your field and then threaten to quit if you don't get a raise. If you're a top performer it would make sense to keep you.
@@dannydaw59 Most of the times, the companies will let you leave, content in their assessment that there's going to be plenty of cannon fodder to replace you. They'll whine about no one wants to work (at their condition), buy another yacht and go about with a skeleton crew until there's someone desperate enough to hire (and fire). The problem is, the working pool is shrinking and GenZ isn't willing to eat dirt like GenX and Millennials did.
And this is why you should always aim to swap jobs/roles every 2'ish years to purge the backlog of excess work and get a good pay raise :)
You pretty much blew your chances of any promotion when you made an HR complaint.
“Fundamentally, we don’t have enough talent right now…”
Translation:
“Fundamentally, we’re not prepared to pay appropriate remuneration for work done and are desperate to maximise profit for executives and returns on investment…”
And Boomers are retiring in numbers, leaving companies without cannon fodder (GenXers are a small generation and Millennials and Zers are too savvy to get shafted over and over).
Its really not, its extremely hard for companies to find exactly what they want. Good talent is hard to come by, numbers aren’t
@@jimbojimbo6873 Good talent is hard to come by because they spent decades squeezing the old workers dry while refusing to train the new generations.
It's like eating up all of the fruit from a tree instead of saving some to plant for more fruit later.
Have they tried more stock buybacks? That should provide a totally sustainable solution
@@jimbojimbo6873 If they would reward good talent with raises and promotions, they would retain that good talent.
amazing how they report on everything EXCEPT the abuse and overreaching of the corporations causing the quiet quitting.
not 'nobody wants to work' lvls... but a true 'old man yelling at cloud' kinda vibes
I mean... media is also owned by capital.... obvious news stories are obvious.
They don't seem to understand that quiet hiring caused quiet quitting
You have to remember that the Main Stream Media outlets are all run by massive corporations.
As employee in Malaysia, I can say there's NEVER quiet hiring, its always quiet abusing(employer wants each employee to do more jobs without extra salary/bonus, and obviously no extra job position).The most funny part is the employer still dumb founded and ask why you quit.....lol
Malaysian quiet abusing = American quiet hiring
Are there job layoffs in Malaysia?
Layoffs are not needed except during COVID lockdown periods.
For low salary jobs, there is always in need for more employees.
For office jobs, since companies are using less ppl to do more work, there shouldn't be a layoff needed. All they worry about is whether enough existing employees to "hand over", when someone quits.
So most ppl either do business or go overseas. There are more companies than employees here, and government is not making foreign workers cheaper to hire.
(random BS opinion)The government loves to make the country become Malays only. They will do all it takes like indirectly saying all races hate each other(news), Malays are native ppl(school), give free ID for foreigners(election), etc. Clearly they are busy on some important things that they don't have time to improve economy. They print money for themselves(mainly not for country benefit) and praying to god. They should read Indonesia history about rich Indonesian migrate out.
I don't hate Malays, I hate their decisions.
@@caojidan8913 Interesting! More businesses than employees there! What is the average pay there? People mostly do what business there? Just wondering what countries are people moving to? I heard some Americans moved to Malaysia for early retirement because of lower cost of living there, instead of searching for the next job in the U.S.
@@yannip2083 Sorry, I exaggerate about business more than employee, but it does feel like that though. For storefront, salary about RM1k/month, while office jobs about RM3k. They do Bubble tea business. Usually ppl go Singapore, Australia, China, and UK. (this is my opinion) I believe the Malaysia currency will consistently decrease over time compare to other currencies, so if you earn other currencies, then Malaysia will just become more and more low cost living.
I work in healthcare and my former employer started creeping this in on us over 10 years ago. When someone quit, we all had to "pull together as a team" to cover the work... well it never ended.. When I brought it up I was asked if I needed more time, as if I had slowed down. I finally quit that job (quiet quitting) and went on to something much better. 8 months later they finally found my replacements.. they hired two people and are now adding another part time. so it will come around one way or another.
They spent more than they saved, trying that stunt. Hiring people is an expensive process.
we need to quietly protest and stay home until we know who actually cares about the state of the country
That happened to me too, I quit and they replaced me with a whole team of 3! Just for my position!
Exactly the medical assistant at my other workplace they were working her to death … now that she quit the looking to hire two people because she was doing the work as three she was the only MA in the office these jobs truly sick
They tried to replace me with a 64 year old man. He quit in 3 days. Couldn't handle the pace 😂.
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"quiet quitting" is one of the dumber slogans the corporate media likes to push.
“Corporate media” as opposed to small business media lol right
@ghost mall are you making claims comparing local newspapers to CNBC?
@ghost mall no idea what you’re talking about lol
Quiet hiring, as they're calling it here, is the entire reason for Quiet Quitting and the Great Resignation. The employment paradigm has shifted and these companies are failing to adapt. We no longer have to compete with each other for employment, the companies need to compete for workers... This is a great thing, and the beginning of positive change, potentially. It is the (labor) market correcting itself.
These days ... even with massive layoffs, there is still a shortage of labor because more and more people are moving out of the U.S. to lower cost of living countries like Mexico, South America, South East Asia, etc. They say let Corporate America sink!
@@yannip2083 And tons of Boomers are croaking or retiring, making the problem even worse.
Next quiet farting. Silent but deadly. Corporate media making new phrases and terms...
Got tired of all my coworkers being silent and deadly. I would always tell them “stop hiding it! Be loud and proud and let it all out!”
I got sent to HR the next day and that’s when I had enough of it and decided to quietly quit.
“We don’t have enough talent right now,” and yet, we just had a massive round of layoffs.
So quiet hiring sounds like a way for employers to assign more work without promotions or raises and skirting benefits by using contractors instead of hiring more employees
Hiring has not changed, companies are looking get the most they can for the least amount of money out of each employee. I they can tease them into putting forth an extraordinary amount of work with the hope of future compensation, they'll do it -- for a while. Once they see the company culture from the inside and how it works, they get jaded and realize certain positions have a direct affect on your job and compensation, that's when the thrill is gone.
Truth
This practice is backfiring at my organization, people are leaving in droves as people are tired of being forced to do work since the pandemic started that isn't part of their jobs and they aren't getting paid for it. What used to be a desirable place to work with a lot of long term knowledgable employees has turned into a bunch of limited duration positions that don't know their job and keep getting shuffled around.
So who else is quitting bc of this? Literally hired for certain position, ended up doing more than was told, asked for a raise they still haven’t gotten back to me and now I’m leaving. Ridiculous how they think you’re gonna stay
So doing what you're contracted to do becomes "quiet quitting", and now outsourcing becomes "quiet hiring"? 🤦🏾♂️
It's a real head scratcher isn't it? I don't know when "doing the work you're paid to do" became a bad thing.
Is this a white collar thing? Because I haven’t even heard about these terms
American "quiet hiring" means the employer loading and over-loading the employee's plate with more and more work but no extra pay ... not necessarily outsourcing. American "quiet quitting" means the employee doing the bare minimum work to buy time for his/her paycheck.
@@Drilling249 imagine you went to work at McDonald's as a burger flipper being paid minimum wage, you've done your job so well the manager decides to make you assistant manager with no increase in pay. You were perfectly happy doing the low stress job you originally signed on for. Congratulations! You have been quietly hired.
Same thing - just new term. Kinda silly. Companies use contractors all the time for gaps
Some MBA professor needed to justify his tenure, so we get new jargon
Yep I'm a contractor. Get supervised by, work in their building, but I'm not an employee. What a crooked arrangement
Staffing companies rubbing their hands for the next couple of years
Cheaper and faster to get a contractor than a f/t employee
This reminds me of when I was interested in web development years ago and wanted to start as a back end engineer and found that companies were commonly giving one person the responsibilities of web designer, front end engineer, and back end engineer.
It would take a lot of dedicated work as a freelancer to be hired as a double engineer and designer.
I run my own web an app development business for 15 years until I was forced to quit in 2013 on the account of having a complete mental breakdown over a massive project that had gone bad due to interference from a textbook example nightmare client.
I was doing all the graphic design, the user interface design, the CMS programming, the database,.... Even inputting the products and product content, testing...etc, etc.
The business had grown to a point where a single person could simply do it and survive.
@@LuisLopez2 My work now expects me to fuction as a service advisor, short order technician, inventory control specialist, customer service specialist, and diagnostic technician. There are not enough hours in the week to cover all of those roles. I have the skillsets to do ALL of them, but I physically and mentally cannot do it. If I walk away this whole shop will crumble. Right now I want to see that more than anything.
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@SomeReturn no, it was a Drupal 7 e-commerce project. And of course I had a tight contract. Just because you have tight contract doesn't mean that it doesn't go bad.
I quiet quit yesterday. I was the last employee standing at 3pm with 5 managers. I left at 4 because of quiet hiring practices. This video reease was great timing
Sounds like your work is top heavy. Too many managers and notice they're not quitting. Must be getting paid well or something.
@@WeisseEdelweissthis is the case at my job. Because it's a family business. I'm only there , because I'm paid ok for what little I do. Tons of people have came, and went. I watch UA-cam half of the day, and refuse to do heavy work.
One side said its good because it helps gain more skills but no salary increase etc.? The other said it’s not good because its abuse and exploitation, etc. for the benefit of a company at the end of the day… Clearly you can see who has a heart and who doesn’t to their employees
Additionally, when you start helping the first time, you also end up being the helper for life!
We (America) are the ONLY developed nation with zero mandatory vacation days, zero maternity/paternity leave, ridiculous at-will employment where companies can fire you for looking at your boss the wrong way, zero loyalty to good employees, etc. Generally speaking, employees are not the bad guys in this country.
America is the only country that is notorious for LAYOFFS brutally and mercilessly.
Quiet hiring = giving more work to existing employees (BS) or contractors /temp workers which is also BS these people get no benefits or PTO. Quiet quitting phrase is BS too people my age are always looking for more pay and stay where they are until that happens because stuff is so expensive more pay is always needed
I get PTO working seasonal for Amazon!
This mess caused me to have to do the work of three people! Although I loved my job, I was getting paid almost half of what I was supposed to get paid and I have a degree. I had an increase in pay but it was super minimal. The company ended up going under when COVID hit
The plandemic exposed which companies were teetering , or not needed.
I’m a RN. Hospitals in my area want to hire for 30-45 an hour for RN’s and refuse to pay more. Using the “we can’t afford it” excuse.
Then those same companies hire travel RN’s for 60-80 an hour and happily pay them. So to “save money” on fulltime employees, hospitals in my area pay travelers nearly double. Makes no sense.
I think this has potential to be problematic more than hopeful. Its being used as a means to add to people’s job requirements without increasing wages. I’ve seen this happen at my current job, where instead of paying us for upskill training or even offering it as an opportunity, it is now instead expected of us and they won’t increase our wages. I’ve hit the ceiling in terms of growth. I think this will become rampant in low wage jobs.
Well you will not see people quite quitting but, just regular quitting.
I think employers need to realize that the vast majority of workers work to live… they don’t live to work. Very few companies look after their workers. They only look after shareholders and that is the problem. And the one lady who said that it is a failure of management to plan and forecast headcount is right. That is the problem where I work. All the managers have full time jobs aside from actually “managing” and they don’t have time to plan or forecast anything. Everyone has to go 90 mph all day, everyday to keep up because we’ve been told that there isn’t any need to hire more people even though business has nearly doubled in the past four years and we still have the same headcount. And now people are starting to quit. Particularly the high functioning, work horses, who have finally had enough.
Quiet hiring has been going on for decades. If you work in healthcare then you’ve definitely experienced this. In a nutshell it does backfire people are quitting in droves.
And when will we hear about Quiet Firing? Like not promoting employees, cutting hours, excluding them from meetings, and not hearing their ideas or concerns?....
Most people wouldn’t mind taking on the extra work or working extra hours when needed if employers would just compensate their employees for it. It shouldn’t be a hard concept to understand, and yet corporations/managers refuse to acknowledge that unfortunately because it doesn’t benefit them
I wish the news would focus on how ridiculous HR job posts are. Requiring 3-5 years of experience and a Masters Degree for something labeled as “entry level” employment is out of hand
yeah this cycle of pilling work is making quiet quitting happening. More work, but not enough compensation isn't worth putting in the effort.
THIS HAS HAPPENED TO ME AND MY TEAM AND WERE FIGHTING BACK! We are doing accounting, budgeting, customer care, etc etc. it is unrealistic and we are overworked! They promoted the lazy workers and the hardworkers are the bottom pickers. They are even setting up processes for us to run their business as our personal business. The only issues is we are the ONLY employees of our “business “
I love how they call quiet hiring smart instead of exploitative and call quiet quiting lazy, irresponsible, entitled instead of wat it was doing what your paid to do
I love it. Great way for America to address labor shortages. I’m tired of people not having pride in their jobs.
Dude, these are some stupid trends. The fact we’re naming these things as if they’re new is absurd.
"Companies might be hesitant to hire new workers, but the work still needs to be done, so companies are able to lean on their existing employees." I think you meant, "...so companies are able to *exploit* existing employees."
When your in an important meeting, try Quiet Farting
When u cant fight bully
Do quiet fighting
Most of us are burning out because of the labor shortage. More responsibility is not what you want in a labor shortage.
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It's not ignorance but due to some unprofessional broker in the market
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"We'll give you a new job title!"
"What about compensation?"
"We'll give you a new job title!"
When in the process of being hired they spoke about titles. I said look i could care less about a title. You can call me a janitor and I'd be cool. My only requirement is a base salary of $110k. I got $112k and bonuses.
so they invented a new word for more of the same exploitation
this serves as a great example as why people are quiet quitting. Wages have not kept up with cost-of-living yet bosses expect workers to do more and more .work harder for no increases in wages while oftentimes watching as others benefit exponentially more off of their work... Absolutely ridiculous.
"It's expensive!" Well, let's restructure it from stake holders or executive management. Time to invest in your people not pimping them around.
Omg! That's just called outsourcing work to contractors or external consultants.
Seriously don't understand why these terms always magically come from the US . Lol
I've been cross trained in 6 different departments. The only thing they ask me to do is sometimes consult, because fresh eyes and fresh thinking are sometimes what you need to solve a problem. This company used to abuse it's employees but after a buyout and new ownership they went from that overwork the people family style to a more by the numbers corporate style.
I just wish more people knew they could say "No" to their managers if it's not part of their job and it's out of their comfort zone. You wouldn't ask a billing rep to fix a networking error. So why ask a network specialist to handle product damages?
I've worked on and off as a quiet hire since graduating. I'm engineer, and have done most of my work in the auto industry. This is definitely nothing new when it comes to engineering. Having seasoned people without the baggage of a person on the books is what most companies like. You want to be full-time, you perform, you want to leave, you leave.
To put it in laymen terms - hire new staff instead of promoting existing members and give them more responsibilities for exact same pay.
Why would they? You are forgetting that companies many and only focus is to maximize profits for shareholders/owners. CEOs bonuses are tied to profits they bring. Remember the employee is just a tool they use. Once the usefulness of the tool is no more they will through the tool out like yesterday’s trash.
Quiet hiring is SICK. Ultimate employee leverage if your not a complete fool. Grow up kids
I was hired without an interview for my current job. I got the job offer and signed it. I didn't talk to anybody until my background check went through and they called to see when I wanted to start. That is quiet hiring to me. Lol. They just hired me based off of my resume.
💯 this happens ALOT
That is weird that they hired you without an interview. That should have been a red flags.
@@user-lu6yg3vk9z I've seen that happen unfortunately and it was out of my control.. some/most C levels don't care what you say or think
I quiet apply for jobs now, but I never get quiet hired..
Person A quits. Company splits the work of Person A between Persons B and C. This is not new.
I'm fine with this as long as the overall expectations for the remaining staff remains the same, say their overall workload had decreased or you invested in tools to let them work more productively. This has not been my personal experience.
this news coming from the "incredible" and "wonderful" USA is strange, in brazil this is called job function deviation, it is a law since 1943. If this happens in brazil, the company is obliged by law to change/increase the employee's salary for the function he will perform.
And it's not a law that few people know about, it's very popular with the vast majority of those who work
Literally “quiet hiring” is the reason why people are quiet quitting.
Someone really needs to find “intellectuals” something to do. Love inventing terms and words
I do agree 😂
I think its a sign of a sick and toxic society when people obsess over buzz words.
So basically extra responsibility with no extra pay? They have been doing that for as long as I have been alive. Why act like employers just started doing this? Why you think quiet quitting is happening in the first place?
When I worked at a small company, at the start of any given quarter you could be called up one day and told you have a completely new role. It happened all the time. Didn’t have a name for it though at the time.
A new trend we seem to be seeing is that employers are putting out 'Help Wanted' ads online, BUT they are not really hiring. I know of two people that have applied over and over and over again, but don't even get an acknowledgment. If they do it's a 'no'. Maybe there isn't a labor shortage after all......
Whoever's reading this, i pray that whatever you're going through gets better and whatever you're struggling with or worrying about is going to be fine and that everyone has a fantastic day! Amen
Causing people to do more & more with no salary increase … then firing them when you think the profits are not as insanely high as a board thinks it should be … what a world.
its not quiet hiring, it is called mission creep, or just simply "overloading your workers"
More emphasis must be placed on not only finding a job, but also finding a job that people can do well and learn quickly. Few companies and managers today want to invest the time, money, and PATIENCE to train people. Lots of companies are so short staffed. Managers, too, must be adequately trained to be professional at all times and relate to many different types of people. In my lifetime thus far, I've encountered so few managers who are genuinely qualified to lead and manage others. In every industry, managers today are so incredibly unprofessional, impatient, and even cruel. It's no wonder why employees aren't staying at companies long enough to become tenured staff. Personally, I'm not going to tolerate anyone disrespecting and belittling me when you're not even paying me that much money to begin with and there are so many other places to work that pay the same or slightly more. So, companies must think about that.
I have been “quiet hired” several times in my career but I was always aware what they were doing and made it clear with my org that it’s going to be temporary. I understood they needed to check if I was a good fit for the role for some time but my condition is that if I prove that I am, they will officially move me to that role I am temporarily filling in. It has almost always worked in my favor except that one time in my first job. This allowed me to get promoted 4 times in 5 years and tripled my salary at the same time. That one time that it didn’t work out, I just gave myself and my manager an ultimatum and then I quit.
By calling it quiet quitting, they're tacitly admitting they're underpaying you and expecting you to do more work than you're being paid to do.
So, Regular hiring???
shhh
I remember when I used to work for large companies. They would use the term “cross training” to imply that if something happened then you could fill in a hole. However you would usually just end up being responsible for two jobs. Also the term lateral move, meaning this job doesn’t get you more pay but opens up a promotion chain for you to be able to grow. Then you’d just end up doing two jobs. Burn out rates were high and the solid citizens of the company would bet who would be next to take the bait and burn out
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The only thing new I see here is people making up new labels for the same things that have gone on forever. Perhaps, they've forgotten downsizing, or rightsizing, or a ton of other management-speak labels form the past. Every few years someone needs to write a new book and has little new to say, so they make up new ways to say the same things.
so they wont give them more money the will force existing employees to do more with same pay ..scummy
A couple of things. First, quiet hiring is an issue that has existed within the field of education since the dawning of time! It is not uncommon for people in education to be given tasks that are outside of their role because the school doesn't have the budget or doesn't want to hire an additional body to do the job.
Second, if employers would just take the time to train people and invest in their employees they wouldn't have this problem. The issue is that they don't want to train people because they don't want to invest the time. So they bring in contractors sometimes for contracts that are 12 months long, 18 months long, etc because they don't have to train these contractors and they also don't have to provide them with benefits. I wish employers and these larger companies would see that if they would just invest in people spend 6 months training them they would be able to retain staff for longer periods of time. Instead what they do is they either quiet higher their employees or bring in contractors leading to people feeling burnt out and their turnover continues to be high.
How about a clearer, truthful phrase: QUIET EXPLOITATION. Miss me with the euphemisms. 🙄
eye roll. Why are we adding a fancy name to what they've been doing? Requiring more work for the same pay is not "quiet hiring." -_-
Haaaa!! We all know this as “back filling”. Stop putting new labels on a bad thing just to make it acceptable and new. 🤨
“Quiet hiring is smart business strategy” spoken like the problematic robot-companies that keep real people overworked and underpaid. My previous employers had trouble getting anyone hired(probably due to their low wages) and started adding more to our workload without increasing pay. Found a position at another business with just about the same responsibilities and now making nearly double. We have to speak up for ourselves, otherwise companies will continue to do what they think they can get away with
Ah yes, exploitation.
should be call "quiet overworking"
Lmao! So mandatory overtime and eliminating benefits... Not a new trend
Lol it’s funny how she said the hiring manager spends a lot of time trying to find a replacement when it’s part of their “JOB!” To do so! The old management team I worked for told me their job is to only supervise what we do and refused to be involved in the work. As soon as I turned in my resignation letter they were no longer on vacation mode and panicked by first saying “who is going to do all your tasks when you leave” it’s the manager’s responsibility to hire, train, retain and replace staff when needed and if they don’t want to do it then find another job that doesn’t require that kind of responsibility!
Yes!!! I have seen some of the most incompetent people become managers. I just don’t get it.
@@neelrastardust3052 people think being a manager is a perk but to be honest I would never want that honor or should I say burden on me. A manager is kind of like the business owner who is really not. They have the responsibility of what you expect the owner of the business should have however managers are just hired to carry that burden without being the actual owners of the company or business.
Perfect way to outsource work & fire tenured employees to save cost!
Every problem goes back to a WAGE SHORTAGE. Not a lack of personell, not a lack of will, it is not reinvesting MONETARILY in your workforce that causes these issues. Clutching your purse costs you in the long run. The stingy man pays the most.
Quit hiring only happened to me when I was making a huge career change. 6 years with one private bank and I go to leave and they begged me to stay and offered me “potential” positions that I knew I had 0 interest in. I left in great terms but it’s sad that it took them 6 years, a bad job market, and me leaving, for them to realize my potential.
Asking employees to do more means that you must increase their pay. As someone who used to do everything I could, I realized I was taken advantage of and will not be doing that again
Both of them imply acceptance to change and willingness to embrace without costing attention.
Adding more responsibility without increasing compensation sounds like a pretty raw deal for employees. Isn't that what spurred quiet quitting in the first place? "Opportunities" are great if they give benefits to the employees, but when all it does is shove more work on someone without additional compensation or even a guarantee of a promotion within a set timeframe, then it stops being an opportunity and is instead exploitation. Also, I noticed many of those leadership folk who were quoted used dehumanizing language. Talking about redistributing and using talent...that talent is people. People who deserve fair compensation for their work. You're going to have a hard time convincing employees that "quiet hiring" is beneficial to them if you can't even acknowledge that these are fellow human beings, not "talent" or "bodies" or "resources" to be used/abused/exploited.
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Instead of continuing a path for higher roles and leadership, employees are just going to take the experience and leave for a better-paying job.
The more knowledge you have, the more valuable you are to a company.
These practices are the reason "Quiet Quitting" became a thing. This is a snuff peace to push you back into the stable.
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