Falconry: Are Harris hawks ruining modern falconry?

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  • Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
  • This falconry video praises the merits of the harris hawk as the incredible falconry species that it is. But it also discusses the controversial view held by some, that the harris hawk is ruining modern falconry.
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  • @SL-vx1sx
    @SL-vx1sx 2 роки тому +19

    I am a first year apprentice and I think the HH is one of the few birds that I could fit into my work schedule. I fully intend to try other birds once I retire, but until then I think I am likely to stick to a HH given my life style. I sincerely appreciate their easy going manner.

    • @m-tminds3929
      @m-tminds3929 Рік тому

      You are very lucky I'm having a hell of time trying to find a sponsor

  • @th600mike3
    @th600mike3 2 роки тому +5

    I don’t comment on your videos, but I’ve been watching for… well I think more than a year now… hard to really say. But I always love your videos. This one was really cool, because I just didn’t know anything about the Harris. I am not a falconer, maybe one day I will have my life together such that I can learn the craft. But, I have always loved these amazing creatures… I remember when I was very young. The peregrine was in danger, and I got to see one of the few captive birds at I believe the San Diego zoo. It’s stuck with me forever, and then my side of the mountain (book) really made it a dream to one day fly these birds. Now a days I get to enjoy these “hot rods” “fighter planes” of nature all around me.
    Every time I watch your video I get so much out of it. I study Neuroscience (I’m starting to be the old guy in my classes), and engineer race car parts. But, your wealth of knowledge, experience, and ability to recognize so many aspects of falconry… make me so thankful to learn from you.
    You are right the world is changing. I hope more people like you recognize this. If we are reactive that change can be bad. But if we are proactive, we can take advantage of the change.

    • @lohikarhu734
      @lohikarhu734 2 роки тому

      Neuroscience and race car parts...hmmmm...3d printing metal? Tried fiber-reinforced plastics? Or, good old machining, or electronics?

  • @silatdan
    @silatdan 2 роки тому +15

    Flying my FHH in Ireland. My favourite BOP. I love how versatile they are. I love how social they are and how I can meet up with other falconers and let them work as they do in the wild. Currently working in a falconry centre and working with all types of birds. Still love bringing out guests to fly the Harris hawks. We always have alot of fun.

    • @equinn2204
      @equinn2204 10 місяців тому

      Hi, im in ireland too. Ive wanted to get started in falconry for a long time now. Ive been to several hawk days, walks etc. Ive been studying for a couple of years. I own 40 acres of land, thats full of pheasants, rabbits, pigeons etc and i am at home, so have plenty of time to fly and hunt. Ive been designing my mews etc. I think im in a pretty good situation to devote my time to this finally. But im having real trouble getting connected with people to learn from. Ive contacted the irish Hawking Club and never heard back from them, ive contacted the irish school of falconry, but they actually dont do any kind of training- just falconry experiences. Could you give me any suggestions how to contact people who would be able to help with some training? im in the Mayo area

  • @recuerdenrecuerdenel5denov614
    @recuerdenrecuerdenel5denov614 2 роки тому +7

    I'm falconer for 35 years now, started when was 15 with a krestel in Spain, reading our bible El Arte de Cetrería of Félix Rodríguez De La Fuente, my favorite bird is the goshawk and been my third bird, the HH is a joke in comparison in terms of time, cares and mistakes you can make while training, maybe HH is little less explosive in the exit from the fist but in all the other matters is as good as the goshawk or even better coz goshawks are really smart and can easilly cheat the falconer when you demand hard preys on them, if you aren't a master falconer they will don't doubt that.
    I love HH (well I love them all) now I hunt with a couple in the same glove don't need even weight them, for me it's true that as an easy bird or the easiest ( are more or less like dogs) breaks little the spirit of the falconry tradition about more dificult the better it is but lets be honest in actual days none have the time to work properly with our birds if you have a job and a familly, that's why I think HH are not ruining falconry all the oposite maybe they are saving if not falconry at least they are saving many other birds that actual falconers can't handle by experience or time, it's easy that an starving bird will obey and this comes with the low time many falconers work or dedicate to their birds, little more harder have an a healthy bird with a chest you can't embrace with your hand and little "fat", this comes with lots of hours of work, this comes with a bird that fly everyday.
    In present days there aren't many masters can forge a good katana but there's more people forging knives, we don't use katanas anymore to fight but we enjoy and use knives when we go to the forest. I have shared my time with many birds in 35 years, from royal owl to american krestel at this moment HH fits me perfect.
    As Félix use to say: " He have all the sky for him but returns to my glove". Good winds to everyone,

  • @freebirdofreason1994
    @freebirdofreason1994 2 роки тому +12

    I fly a hunt Harris hawk, 7 days a week , often I am out after my hunt with a falconer flying Peregrines and Merlins, I really enjoy watching my mate fly his birds, Merlins from the fist and the Peregrine from waiting on.
    I started with the Harris Hawk because it’s the species I wanted to hunt with, they are a lovely hawk , as far as do they stop people from passing on falconry skills, I’d say no way, falconry is a passion, even getting a Harris hawk to hunt well takes passion.
    There will always be people flying every species, the big problem is people getting these Hawks and thinking they are for beginners and passing them on, I’d say get your Harris hawk hunting in as many ways as possible, see just how fantastic they can be.
    Keep your Harris hawk and hunt it well, interesting subject but the Harris is here to stay.👍👍🇬🇧

  • @brianclayton6305
    @brianclayton6305 2 роки тому +5

    I flew a cast of HH in NJ and TX, LOVE the HH - so much fun and they really seem to enjoy the cooperative hunting. Great video

  • @harrishawklerinDE
    @harrishawklerinDE 2 роки тому +2

    Great video! I'm a new falconer and new follower in Germany (but from the US) and will be getting my first Harris hawk in a few months. My mentor has one and focuses on crow hunting, and we had a great season! The Harris accepted me and I had the absolute honor of launching her at the prey many times. It's of course fabulous when she gets the crow, but when she misses and flies back to me for just a little tidbit...that is one of the most incredible feelings I know. I find the Harris a beautiful and amazing bird, and I love this one's personality! My Harris will be a half-brother of this bird, who has taught me so much.
    I'm looking forward to more of your videos and going back through the ones you've already made.

  • @pacodogtule
    @pacodogtule 2 роки тому +10

    I’ve always wondered about “what if” the Harris were discovered for falconry a thousand years ago. Selective breeding might have produced varieties of Harris Hawks. Like pointer and setter hunting dogs.
    I thank the Coulsons for breeding only well proven hawks, improving the breed.

    • @pacodogtule
      @pacodogtule 2 роки тому +1

      .

    • @benwoodrufffalconry
      @benwoodrufffalconry  2 роки тому +5

      That’s a really cool point!!!!! Omg imagine the varieties and different traits that could have been developed!

    • @kokroucz
      @kokroucz 2 роки тому +1

      I love this idea!
      damn... now I shall forever think about it as well...

    • @mikeplugugly
      @mikeplugugly 2 роки тому +1

      i know a gentlemen who is currently breeding monster sized HH. he has been selectively breeding his birds for 30 years and has just introduced a 1400 g female to a 975 g male. i know the bigger birds can be kind of sluggish but he is breeding to take down large jacks. i think it would be great to be able to fly a big hh like this. one thing i think that isnt necessarily taken into consideration is that in the past we had to pass down our knowledge personally or in books. in these modern times our generational knowledge will be easier to pass on to new falconers thanks to the internet. it will help increase our overall numbers and availability to many thousands more people than in ages past. this will come with it own inherent issues but i do think modern falconry is safe and will come into the light for the whole world to appreciate.

  • @robertcorradi8573
    @robertcorradi8573 2 роки тому +1

    Great commentary , informative , open minded and not judgemental ..... Spot on Ben ..... You have a great style and delivery ..... Keep them coming & thank you .👍👍👍

  • @wehahnavibus5894
    @wehahnavibus5894 2 роки тому +1

    An excellent balanced overview. The falconry approach and landscape is ever-changing and HH was one of those game-changers. Personally, I prefer to refer to novices starting their falconry journey with HH as Harris Hawkers and not falconers. The skills required for Harris Hawking is merely one branch of the falconry tree. Today unfortunately instant gratification is the norm and the virtue of “patience” and “commitment” as traditionally required in the practice of falconry could be misinterpreted by Harris Hawkers. It’s the responsibility of falconry clubs as a collective to address this at the grass-root level through their apprentice training. Lately, I have met people wanting to take up falconry, not wanting to hunt, only wanting to fly raptors to the lure and drones partly because they do not like the “killing” and secondly due to their domestic situation, having no access to hunting grounds. So in time, the tree of falconry could have many branches and the entitlement of modern society could pose many falconry challenges in the future.

  • @f_c_k_o_f_f
    @f_c_k_o_f_f 2 роки тому +2

    Ben, you are such an interesting and intelligent human. Thanks for your videos.

  • @calebfalconer8671
    @calebfalconer8671 2 роки тому +3

    Great as always Ben! Keep up the great work. I love our channel, and the advice you give us. You have given me the knowledge to make my red tailed hawk the most tame bird - in and out of the field - my Sponsor has seen in years "a 1 in 30 bird" is how he put it. And have gave me the tips and techniques that I so wish I had when taking up my first bird, an American Kestrel.
    I love your channel, an could not recommend you enough to anyone who asks. Please don't stop!

  • @glennhynes5263
    @glennhynes5263 2 роки тому +1

    You nailed it Ben. Tradition needs to be constantly revisited to ensure we not propagating fallacies for the sake of it.

  • @Athelas7
    @Athelas7 2 роки тому +2

    thank you for your videos! I follow you from France and I regret not having such rich content in France.
    As you said harris hawk allowed to continue to practice falconry.
    The world is changing and I would rather people take pleasure in flying other species than seeing falconry practiced by more than just a few people.
    we must continue to share this magnificent knowledge transmitted to us by our ancestors

  • @jason2086
    @jason2086 2 роки тому +4

    Ben I have to agree with you. Harris Hawk have revitalized the sport in parts of the countries where falconry was hurting. Old timers should keep in mind that 40-50 yrs ago finding other falconers or falconry groups were far & in-between it was more of a niche thing. Now with the rise of falconry & modern technology it’s now easier to find groups & communities with the same passion in the sport of falconry as you!
    Harris Hawks are great a introduction to the sport, but like any birds of prey, Harris Hawks will still have their own fair share of problems. But what makes the Harris Hawks truly special is their pack mentality & user friendly to pick up on a lot of stuff quick! Now with the choice of flying only HH exclusively or other birds or prey will solely depend on the falconer themselves. So has Harris Hawks ruined modern falconry? No. But is Harris Hawks easier to work with due to their pack mentality? Yes.

  • @mixedup72
    @mixedup72 2 роки тому +2

    I really enjoy your channel. You put the information out there and then let people formulate their own opinions.

  • @unicaller1
    @unicaller1 9 місяців тому +1

    I'm not into falconry but here in Central Arizona where we have wild Harris Hawks ,they are just amazing to watch hunt.

    • @benwoodrufffalconry
      @benwoodrufffalconry  9 місяців тому +2

      Must be so awesome to get to experience them in the wild!

  • @markusd.3426
    @markusd.3426 2 роки тому +1

    In Germany the HH is very popular in falconry due to the very distinct legal regulations between native and non native birds, which are much looser for the second group. For keeping native BOP you need a falconry licence and are only allowed to hunt with 3 of all the species (peregrine falcon, goshawk and golden eagle) of which you are allowed to possess only two birds in total. For foreign birds a lower kind of licence is needed - if you want to hunt with them you still need the falconry licence. The crucial point is, that the species and number of the birds you keep is not limited in this case. And the HH is as the only species even except from the obligatory marking (normally ringing) of the birds. Not that people needed additional legal incentives to decide for the HH (and other foreign species).

  • @nonstopadventures13
    @nonstopadventures13 2 роки тому +3

    Kentucky is red tails and Harris hawks I am very uttered in learning all I can about the common black hawk that’s the bird that I personally am interested in any way you could do a video about them

    • @benwoodrufffalconry
      @benwoodrufffalconry  2 роки тому +1

      Here is a link to a video I did several years ago on common black hawks. Unfortunately the sound and production values are not great. But it is good info though. And I should be updating and making a new more in depth version of this with more info and better quality later this year. But here is the original: ua-cam.com/video/Wl9SAlr8dIk/v-deo.html

  • @thekidsonly
    @thekidsonly 2 роки тому +1

    Great video I have yet to start my apprenticeship but my sponsor is admit that Harris hawk is the best learning bird. He has been at it for like 40 years so I trust his word.

  • @karolinavolkova8064
    @karolinavolkova8064 2 роки тому +2

    I love Harris Hawks, I would like to have one as my first bird, when I'll become a Falconer 💪🤩

  • @kevinp5179
    @kevinp5179 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much!! for all your time and knowledge I really appreciate all your hard work you put in getting everything together! I have listened to all your videos and podcasts on falconry I am getting ready for my test in Washington. I can’t wait to be a falconer!! The falconry playlist has been great tool for me in my study I just hit play when I start my day at work it makes my day go by so much faster.. can’t wait to see what your next video is about!!

  • @seanpatterson5033
    @seanpatterson5033 2 роки тому +1

    This was a great video bro, I love birds of prey and don’t know anything about falconery

  • @thewesternway7797
    @thewesternway7797 2 роки тому

    Ben,
    Once again I really love your Videos!! SUCH great Information !!

  • @davidirving2006
    @davidirving2006 2 роки тому +2

    I think there might be sime truth in your statement. I see lots of new falconers doing a season with a harris with only limited results. And then struggling with any other species, especially accipiters. I can see why most North American falconers start with a Redtail. The sad thing is most harris hawks get flown way too high in weight, and the 'falconers' never get to see just how amazing Harris hawks can be. Still the most under used, under rated and misunderstood hawk in modern falconry.

  • @btakin8737
    @btakin8737 2 роки тому +1

    I have waited several days to comment as my emotion was very high watching as it has made me relive the unpleasantries I personally have experienced over the last 2 yrs if this journey. I will just say this, when the club is no longer super exclusive to you and your cronies you start taking pot shots at the younger successful newcomers who do it differently. Tiger Woods could relate.
    As always look forward to your videos my knowledge of the sport , husbandry and history are enriched by your content. Thanks!

  • @gregorywojtera7283
    @gregorywojtera7283 2 роки тому +1

    Great video!
    "Marco Polo Marco Polo!" ah ah, love it!!

  • @ricardovanleeuwen7675
    @ricardovanleeuwen7675 2 роки тому +2

    Hej Ben, i love your video’s. Can you make more video’s about harris hawks? Greetings from Ricardo, The Netherlands.

  • @jonahmcbride934
    @jonahmcbride934 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting question in the title of you video. Wiithout watching, I already knew the answer is a resounding NO. They are great birds for falconry!

  • @legitpairv2505
    @legitpairv2505 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much.

  • @discreet90210
    @discreet90210 Рік тому +1

    Learning so much about these different species, better than reading about it. Thank you.

  • @sprk11
    @sprk11 2 роки тому

    this is a good vid. I like, you my friend might be a little wordy,,, but hell aren't we all. My opinion on harris's; great hawk, perhaps to easy for an apprentice ; to easy to train, to easy to create bad habits. I've done my 20ish years, and I'm hoping from here on in my harris's will be my main stay. Now I have stayed away from them because of our cold winters but here I am waiting for spring so we can get out there. Looking forward to more vids take care.

  • @danareynolds3027
    @danareynolds3027 5 місяців тому +1

    Harris hawks are social hawks in the wild... well, at least in the desert southwest of the U.S. It doesn't surprise me that they imprint easily on humans and are so easygoing.

  • @oldschoolhawking8191
    @oldschoolhawking8191 2 роки тому +2

    I've been involved with falconry since the late sixties, I'm kind of a traditionalist when it comes to the sport. I don't think Harris Hawks are ruining the sport, but I have noticed some of the modern falconers have become lazy in ways. The Giant Hood replaced hood training, kites and drones replaced the use of pigeons to teach falcons to wait on. Tall T-perches replaced flying Harris Hawks and Red Tails off the fist. It might be just me, but initially seeing these methods, made me cringe.

  • @tylerbess7510
    @tylerbess7510 2 роки тому +1

    Can we get more of the training a new falcon series?

  • @chriskitchen4772
    @chriskitchen4772 2 роки тому +1

    I knew falconers who where flying Harris hawks. They were fun to hunt with and were smart and beautiful raptors. I really liked them. I would never get one though. If one was to have this hawk and needed to part with it, it would be difficult to impossible to find another home for it. You also could not release it because they are not native to the province where I live. The Harris hawk, I believe, is for falconers who are planning to keep the bird for the span of it's life.

  • @jessepadilla5919
    @jessepadilla5919 2 роки тому +1

    HH's are forever birds. You can't release them so the mantra of Trap > Train > Hunt > Release, isn't practiced season after season and I believe some of that collective experience is degraded. The joy does outweigh that benefit. 🦅😎

    • @chriskitchen4772
      @chriskitchen4772 2 роки тому

      I agree with what you say. Since they are forever birds, I would never get one.

  • @mattrexing
    @mattrexing 2 роки тому

    In the intro there is an awesome green water bowl. What brand is that if you please? Thank You, and great video

  • @jantirpak7902
    @jantirpak7902 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Ben, the increase in popularity for harris hawk is probably worldwide, their number is still rising in our country as well. The right hawks are in retreat due to WNV

  • @brettbrown2573
    @brettbrown2573 Рік тому

    Hi Ben , I`m not in the USA and have no experience with H Hawks but I was under the impression that Harris`s had not been flown until the 1960s . But I noticed while watching the old Robin Hood movie with Errol Flynn 1938 that there was a Harris in the movie. Early in the movie in the Great Hall when they are feasting there is a hooded Harris. Am I mistaken , does this push back the timeline for Harris`s use. I would be interested in your thoughts. Thanks for the videos.

  • @johnlindsay8630
    @johnlindsay8630 2 роки тому +1

    From Barrie Ontario the only thing about the Harris Hawk that I don't like as they can't take the cold but besides that awesome bird

  • @rickyvillafuerte7004
    @rickyvillafuerte7004 Рік тому

    Honestly when I think about having to be someones apprentice. I would definitely want to be yours. Idk what it is maybe its same views or you always know exactly what to say when I am wanting to know something. But you as a person nd a teacher seems like a very good fit for me. I am drawn to your videos every time. Out of any falconers videos. I see you I know its going to be good nd I gotta click on it nd watch what you have to say. Im from New Mexico, So I am not a falconer I really want to be and my first bird of choice is a red tailed hawk. Mostly because its very common where im from. Nd Im just proud of the species. Nd im a new mexican and i feel they are too. But then i also want to fly a harris hawk next nd i thought that was funny to hear you say that exactly. Im guilty you cuaght me. 😂 .but my reason is because its new nd i like to do things differently outside the box. Not follow the crowd i guess. Also I like wolves they are my favorite animals them and orcas. Nd how those two species hunt. It be amazing to be able to hunt that way with raptors. I was amazed finding out that harris hawks did this. But once i get familiar as a falconer. I would definitely love to try pairing with as many and different birds of prey that I could. I love so many different kinds just birds of prey in general. So idk if i even have a favorite choice yet. I am still new on it but want to find out that experience. Where i know nd fall in love with a bird and become a companionand with. Thank you Ben I hope u see this nd know you impacted my life and in a times that Weren't so good for me. It was the lil things and unexpected things like this that helped me nd kept me going.

  • @afterhrs4805
    @afterhrs4805 2 роки тому +3

    Studying to take the test 😇🙏🏼

  • @casualmilklover4585
    @casualmilklover4585 2 роки тому

    Farmington Utah, we get a lot of everything really, I do see a lot of long wings in Utah and owls

  • @gregoryh4601
    @gregoryh4601 2 роки тому +1

    Ben. I like how you tell it like it is. In Ohio we have to do what you did when you were Young.

  • @johnlindsay8630
    @johnlindsay8630 2 роки тому +1

    I'm in Ontario Canada large amount of goshawks

  • @Sardonic_Cynic
    @Sardonic_Cynic 2 роки тому

    I live in the suburbs so the only time I see falconry birds is actually inside city limits - the last time was actually a baldy, which I'm guessing was in recall training for education or doing abatement because it flew over a very busy section of HWY99 right through the center of my city when I was on my way home

  • @dawnmccullough6961
    @dawnmccullough6961 9 місяців тому

    Do you worry that if many falconers only fly RT and HH, that we will lose knowledge. For example there will be more master falconers apprenticing who aren't able to teach their apprentices the "secrets" and "training nuances" to use with large falcons.

  • @johnlindsay8630
    @johnlindsay8630 2 роки тому +2

    I agree 100% I think all they can do is get more people into falconry

    • @chriskitchen4772
      @chriskitchen4772 2 роки тому +1

      Please no, as there might be too many unwanted Harris hawks. Most people should try to get passage birds. Then they can train, hunt, and release the bird when they want to. By doing this they can try flying many different species and gain more knowledge.

  • @mixedup72
    @mixedup72 2 роки тому +2

    What are the advantages of flying Harris's Hawks over a red-tail?

    • @josephhappe8058
      @josephhappe8058 2 роки тому +2

      Speed and agility. Longer tail feathers allow them to take avian prey. Increases the quarry you can hunt

    • @pacodogtule
      @pacodogtule 2 роки тому

      Short answer: red tail’s thick feet deal with squirrel bites better than a Harris.
      Longer: There are exceptional hawks and exceptional falconers who achieve great feats of falconry. However I see all variables as a “bell curve” of probability and my very limited experience says the Harris will do better on everything.
      If forced to hunt squirrels, (lots of nut orchards here) I’ll trap a thick footed female red tail….. I hate vet bills and don’t want a 3 legged dog or 3 toed hawk for hunting.

    • @mixedup72
      @mixedup72 2 роки тому

      I primarily hunt squirrels, but in the future if I can get my hands on a good rabbit dog I will trap one. I’m fortunate enough to live in a state that has wild populations of them.

  • @birdnerd7666
    @birdnerd7666 6 місяців тому

    Are hybrids ruining modern falconry?

  • @shae899
    @shae899 Рік тому

    I've heard "harris hawks are the only birds that hunt in packs" but I've observed osprey hunting in groups as large as 7 to take down waterfowl. Is this really the only bird known to science to do this (or just the species that does it most readily)? Because if so, I have a lake some ornithologists need to hear about, or something.

  • @xiaemperor
    @xiaemperor 2 роки тому

    as a Second year apprentice I want to try flying a coopers hawk as my first bird as a generalist.

  • @luxordeathbed
    @luxordeathbed 9 місяців тому

    IF someone gate keep too much, you can kill off the tradition people are to preserve by keeping most interested away. Then government regulations also have a major factor on this.

  • @angelgreen3532
    @angelgreen3532 2 роки тому +1

    Not all of us have any desire to fly large falcons. Harris' and red tails are perfect birds.

  • @thomasbergeaux2647
    @thomasbergeaux2647 2 роки тому +3

    The heart of true falconry is taking a PASSAGE bird, a wild bird, and hunting wild quarry, and the epitome is eventually releasing that bird back into the wild. This is not possible to do in every country. However, as with harris hawks, the same can be said for other captive bred species and especially hybrids. Its hard to define TRUE falconry when some situations are straying so far from classic falconry. It has definitely evolved into modern falconry and is getting further away from classic falconry

  • @skink_wrangler69
    @skink_wrangler69 2 роки тому

    Question for anyone reading this, I am currently trying to get into falconry and I was wondering if there was hawk/falcon that does well in the cold. Where I live in Canada it gets far below freezing in the winter so knowing birds that do well in about -15 to -20 Celsius would be great.

  • @missingbone1
    @missingbone1 2 роки тому

    I live in the woods in Tennessee I fly a Harris hawk and my Harris hawk does this Wird cooper's hawk call and sprints and stuff it does have Harris hawk attributes to I'm not gonna try to fly a cooper's hawk and a Harris hawk in cast or anything but see cooper's hawk driving and stuff every day I'm connected I ust to see American kestrel all the time I often take drives on enterstate toward the airport and I ust to see kestrel on wire on power lines and stuff one time I was visiting a kestrel Irie or nest were they have double clutched and there was several kestrel being vocal just chiming as walked on the road a cooper's hawk flew in insic with me walking and kestrel stooped and got behind the cooper's hawk like cop car I guess a police car drove bie wile I was walking OK the cooper's hawk flew not on sprint or anything just slow drift strait forward and the kestrel did stoop behind it OK these kestrel was very valcol and it was meaningful and I don't see kestrel at all no more i see cooper's hawks all the time and the kestrel kept flying behind them like that and there small and brightly colored and i think the cooper's hawk turned them into prey like song birds I've never witnessed a cooper's hawk do that I Seen a kestrel Chase off a redtail no big deal right but I think cooper's is different and it's possible that in my ruteen of stuff I do the cooper's hawk took over I live in the woods all I do is hawk falconry that all I do I go to mall and use it for what it's for I was driving in parking lot and wild cooper's swooped in and flew right to a car window in direct flight and that makes people know I win so like cooper's hawks have special place in my heart and when I'm sitting in parking lot I watch them chase sparrow in the bushes and they weave through the bushes then clime to the top and just poke there head out and look around I traded on once I thought it was a kestrel on b.c I i waited and go down I still thought it was kestrel but when I went to the trap it was juvenile cooper's hawk I had capture permit for a kestrel but still put in a nylon sock and taped Wille I was driving it got out of the sock and was loose in the car they really are cool birds I took home and held it through the night there was blue light in the stereo in living room it glared at this blue dot light just stared at I don't think he liked it got ust to me I made a hood and put him in the bathroom and he kicked the hood and went in the bath room and its was a really cool white color its cool I held him in the morning and I held him with no glove and sqose my hand playing with me didn't have permit to trap a coops and he wouldn't eat its Ben one day and I got worried he get sick I could force feed buy time but instead I let him go in the woods and claped my hands hw flew off that's was really cool experience Harris hawks are my birds they haft to be my favorite but cooper's are by far my favorite birds besides what I'm master of those birds are cool I'd like fly one for a hole season I might do that one day.

  • @lisaschubach4163
    @lisaschubach4163 2 роки тому

    I'm from the middle of Germany and the most falconers in my area are flying HH or Goshawk. Then there are a few how are flying Golden Eagle and even less are flying falcons, most of them peregrine. My love goes to Goshawk ❤️

  • @nortexican7521
    @nortexican7521 Рік тому

    I watch multiple Harris Hawks on a daily basis in my front yard. Literally. On the ranch. At least 3 maybe more. I dream of harnessing them for a season but the paperwork and political way of getting into the sport means I’ll likely never get to fully enjoy the potential those birds have.

  • @nikolazcardellach5795
    @nikolazcardellach5795 Рік тому

    What amazes me about Harris hawks is that they're so easy to train that even children can handle them. Had they been a native European or Asian species, I guess they would have a fully domesticated form by now.

    • @benwoodrufffalconry
      @benwoodrufffalconry  Рік тому +1

      That’s an excellent point! I agree. If they had been used already for thousands of years as an old world native species, the face of falconry would have been entirely different

  • @davemyers7507
    @davemyers7507 2 роки тому

    Apprentices should be able to have the Harris Hawk don’t you think 🤔

    • @pacodogtule
      @pacodogtule 2 роки тому

      Passage HH’s yes.
      Captive bred HHs for newbie’s not so sure.

  • @johnlindsay8630
    @johnlindsay8630 2 роки тому +1

    Way too expensive though

  • @AtlantaFalconry
    @AtlantaFalconry 2 роки тому

    Yes

  • @viralvidsrepository4632
    @viralvidsrepository4632 2 роки тому

    I will go ahead and give my two cents. Harris hawks are super easy to work with, but unfortunately, with that comes low reward (from my perspective). For me, after enough quarry is taken, the thrill I get is from the flights themselves. I'm not really interested in easy all day hunting. I would rather see 1 or 2 spectacular aerial displays. Think about a finnish going after rabbits in an open area or a coopers going after feathered quarry. Harris flights are boring at best by comparison. They get the job done and make the kill, but with much less aerobatic display. To me, Harrises are for the falconer that likes drinking two 12 packs all day long. Accipiters are for someone who prefers sipping a small quanity but high quality cognac.

  • @joewittstock
    @joewittstock 2 роки тому +1

    the harris hawk is a Slaker hawk.. lazy man bird...for those that are flying longwings and goshawk.. probably see the Harris hawk as Trailer trass..and have NO desire to have one.....real Falconry..should Not be affected by this........ at all......

  • @SlackActionBumble
    @SlackActionBumble Рік тому

    It sounds to me like "Dogs are ruining domestic predator tradition! They are too easy to train! Nobody's training lions and tigers and stuff anymore!"
    It's just stupid gatekeeping
    We may be in the process of actually truly domesticating our first flying predator friend here. We should encourage this and embrace it.

  • @georgeblanco436
    @georgeblanco436 2 роки тому

    If the Harris hawk was not available 1/4 of the falconers would not be practicing today. The Harris has helped the sport in areas that they fit in. I will say this; the early taken passage RT in the right hands are better than Harris on fur and coops are much better than Harris on feathers but neither one is as easy to train. And neither one offers hunting in a group with friends.

    • @pacodogtule
      @pacodogtule 2 роки тому

      We need better falconry, NOT more falconers. “We need more falconers”
      is what I hear from the leadership in local falconry clubs.
      Idiots

  • @jackcrompton92
    @jackcrompton92 Рік тому

    Harris hawks carry the U.K. falconry I think if the lads into lurchers and lamping didn’t get hawks it would die out

  • @missingbone1
    @missingbone1 2 роки тому

    But yeah if you invite me to the sky trails or some thing I'm there I'll risk it brisk is a good bird his a bird show game hawk Vasile unit officer bird I'd like to show a trained falconer brisk I'd think you would agree he really is good bird

  • @rrmerlin3402
    @rrmerlin3402 3 місяці тому

    Flying a Harris hawk is hardly falconry......Not nearly enough frustration !

  • @missingbone1
    @missingbone1 2 роки тому

    see how birds have different nick names sperrow hawk duck hawk pigion hawk ECT Harris hawks are eagle hawks when you say the hawk after coins a hawk it's hawk that has eagle atrubutes the golden Harris hawk is a very natrel hybrid but it dosnt shrink the golden eagle down it makes the Harris hawk bigger to catch squirrels for squirrel bites but the eagle hawk is what they are nick names like pigion hawk duck hawk is to help people think about them Easyer to have talreance fur raptors the species poplar in falconer is Nick named to be worked with out Harris hawk is predator predator eagle hawk and dosnt have relieve from predator makes Harris hawks more difficult to work with crow dost work the link is missing between a crow and Harris hawk thata the Dane thing as saying the blue jay is it like blue jay hawk or something or magbpie ok so it is a eagle hawk so to work with non stop is more difficult for the 24 7 falconer but there rewire less time to stay in condition so it balance out but harder for the non stop falconer but easy for the weekend worrir falconer that disnt want to use a dog or study pigins

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    I really am a navy peals and a army prarie and officer kestrel your opinions are safe here my Freind l.

  • @hobby684
    @hobby684 2 роки тому

    Its not the Hawk its the falconer. A Harris hawk that flys 7 days a week in different places different flight styles and on various types of /quary is a completely different Harris hawk that gets fed chicks till the weekend flying maybe a couple of nights lamping will not get the hawk fit enough for even 1 hour in wind flowing on. So I think its the falconer not the Harris hawk its self a Harris hawk with a good falconer high fitness and a good dog is definitely top falconry. Styles make flights again its the falconer that has to choose different destinations and conditions to test his hawk making it better again. Falconer not hawk I think buddy 🤔 👍

  • @missingbone1
    @missingbone1 2 роки тому

    Harris hawks alout stronger and faster than gos hawks they have less hunger panic in them as group they rarely get a amasated state but if you condition a Harris hawk to use that sort of speed there noticably faster and stronger a Harris hawk can take down a kayotey a gos hawk could never do that

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    I look forward to practicing falconry in a erea that all wild birds are pist there's building there in tenesee all construction is forced by rifles and it's exstreamly difficult to be falconer here but ine day it be easy some where.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Varie your deit puppies are so cute.

  • @leedawson8925
    @leedawson8925 2 роки тому

    Snobs in falconry that talk down Harris hawks

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Does this have anything to do with harpy eagles being faster than gos hawks there is a harpy Harris hybrid it was easy just adding a r to harpy ok it color has white brown and blue color phases immature subadult the final adult color phase is intresting I haven't seen if you want to take a side the ornate golden eagle hybrid is or can be used for that perpose.

  • @JustMakinProgress
    @JustMakinProgress 2 роки тому

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  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    The altamate game falcon is prairie falcon and sooty falcon hybrid

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Injoy your Farris weel it can either change or it can't.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Birds of prey key off on movement and what moves better in b.c a gerbil or mouse and when you hear base in car that's gerbil and not pigs for polnesains and angel moronia one.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    The bells are broken.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Give first than you get what you want out of it but they haft to get there's before you can get mine.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    There tore down pale males nest in central park that really upset me.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    We cant let people be tearing down nest our world is safe.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    The main national defeance is to cute and cuddley and not deadly enough.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    That's trap you showed is cool you capture and release with anything else I notice Harris hawks people want bird that never seen anyone but when they get home and that's how you do that imprint on brothers sisters parents no human interaction trap and never see or be seen by anyone but the person that bote it and would make the bird very valuable that's traps cool and good luck with your books and stuff I'm check out your books and see if I can buy one.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    If you bond you with American kestrel a certain way you never fly anthor falcon d the only other bird you can fly is Harris hawk just be careful with ametican kestrel key it's a skelton key im not sure if other birds do that but american kestel will be your only bird if your not careful but Harris hawk and possibly anthor para buteo like ferrignouse hawk eagle.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    I gave up dateing compleatly to be a falconer and i know it pay off and still be looking at Harris hawks on first a million years from now in that million years i might have some how got girl freind to buy Christmas gift for on Christmas.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Put kestrel bell on water moccasins tail snake with a zip tie then get a answer.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Fly it injerd they like it true squirrel hawk don't worry about it.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Master falconer skelton falconer is difftent keys removed and the end open the door all them and then some doors the last thing is what it is and it a skelton key.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Im a rebel I think think a trained bird of prey is more inportant than fire arm.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Let's complicate shit cus we can't keep up and do I like PEople no for that reason .

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Name your bells

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Golden Ferris hawk eagle.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Kestrels have exstream indoreance and if conditioned properly needs telemetry big time the problem you passage bird to get that stanima and the Manning process it's sad but fact that kestrels are high strung and they are manned in submission starvation is easily achieved becise there very small and once you get them trained often it's very diffcult to not have starved then into submission achiveing yarak in kestrel as trained bird is diffcult almost in possable but can trap wild kestel and when go to get them of the b.c they humming bird and seen in tail chase with sperrow at lyberity park that's going on for like an hour ok alout things in falconry are noted and reconised and getting recinised if difftent things is very diffcult even if a prairie falcon is faster than pergrine can prove and get in record no can't ok terminal volisity ok can gyr falcon e the fastest falcon I don't think so I think pergrines are more lanky than guess and stream lined and drag is factor and look at these pergrine kestrel hybrids it's like it's a really a bullet hawk I'd to get one to stoop and it can do a gun bullet is small and actives speed that is very fast so weight doshr determain speed stream line Body plan does and that pergrine pergrine looks fast I'd do train one but there unlisted I'll aventully get to the point I can get one kestrels are high strung but more tolerant of people Merlin's dislike people kestrels are common sight at parks I've seen Merlin's waking home from school but but when get home across the street from my house is 2 or 3 kestrels on the wire and nsk is Merlin vs kestrel and fight and it generates agression and is micro ok then flyijng a red tail on crance in feild two prarle falcons fly in like jet planes and buzz me and wow ok people say that prairie falcons are big kestrels ok that's a pair of prairie falcons there hunting togeather oplomados do that and also have malor stripe I've seen wild pergrines there always alone I never togeather I think prarle falcons hunt in pairs and think Falco Mexiconas generates dislike more so than Harris hawks and prarie falcons I train two sosdiins ready eyass ready for pigions pergrines I can't even get to turn around to stoop at the lure again you know birds are ok with difftent things I'm fun person I have mews coopers hawk can't stand me for some reason golden eagles I could train and wild ones miss with me you just some people should just simply leave eachother alone some men should stay away from little girls.

  • @jacygreen9520
    @jacygreen9520 Рік тому

    Is a prarie falcon faster than peals pergrine not sure but the prarie falcon is faster than antum and artic but the peals and the prarie are well matched but tell you this peregrine's are the sky diveing champions and dive more often I love peals pergrines and I love Prarie falcons the peals is high strung and vilent and has the same problems a Prarie does antums are more calm plesent to work with do I think steave chindren should be kicked out of united states into Alberta Canada no I don't think he should and my opinions still don't matter.