@@mapoking5087 Actually they were bragging that it was the highest view premier of HBOMAX original animation, but that has even less competitors. Most of HBOMAX animations series are from Cartoon Network, Boomerang, Adult Swim and DC universe streaming. And while they may have aired new seasons of some of the shows that didn't make them originals since they didn't first air on HBOMAX. Now I don't know the exact number but I doubt it's more than ten so yeah not much of a victory.
@@GIGio_Official At 1st I thought Velma was going to be like the Harley Quinn show meets mystery incorporated but I was so wrong I honestly didn't care for any of the characters And it sucks that it's getting a season 2 while so many other shows guide canceled before they even came on the air on HBO Max. Which by the way the show was already green live for a season 2 and it wasn't because of hate watching You want to know something even more painful Mindy caviling got an award from the president for the arts or something. If you want to watch a better adult show with comedy I suggest you check out the legend of Vox Makita if you like Dunn is in dragons and stuff then give it a watch it has 2 seasons
@@kingj9664 this was my exact thought but then episode 1 hit and I just said that it felt like I was developing a cancer so severe that not even the greatest medical geniuses combined could hope to cure, they murdered my childhood in the most brutal way possible
@@GIGio_Official Indeed. Frank Welker is just lucky to be here. So is Cherry Jones, who did a fantastic job at performing the mother's voice in Velma's dramatic moments. I just think it is sort of a nice touch that Velma hired an actress who really has the last name Jones to play the mother of Fred Jones.
So much Scooby-Doo media to see, from old cartoons to even the fan made live action on UA-cam. We can all just forget this was ever a thing. This show is the epitome of a show made for no one. For a visual representation it would be the scene in Madagascar 2: "The good news is that we will be landing immediately. The bad news is, we're crash landing."
Velma also treat Sophie like trash, Sophie who is overall a nice woman, loving and caring mother and clearly good regarding keeping the house beautiful and clean.
And she saved her from one of her fake hypnosis heart attacks in the first episode. Sophie literally saved Velma's life and Velma keeps band-mouthing and mistreating her and doesn't give her so much as a "thank you."
@@GIGio_Official before the show I could get it because dad's girlfriend and all that, but she saved her life, drove her to places (like when Velma dressed like some weird elve/troll thing) and is her sister's mother. There's anger at the "other woman" and then there's treating family like trash.
I'm going to correct you on one thing. Velma was greenlight for a second season after the first episode was released. So hate watching has nothing to do with this. Plus Velma viewership was surpisingly low but due to the fax that HBO doesn't have any current animations shows on there streaming service (after getting rid of them all) Velma became the top animation show on there streaming service. Plus the real reason scooby doo isn't in Velma is because Hanna-Barbera Productions refuses to allow them to use him and Hanna-Barbera believed it would hurt scooby doo as a brand
That idea of greenlighting a show for a second season before getting the numbers for the first one boggles my mind. No matter how you slice it it doesn't make a lick of sense. I literally just learned about this practice today and im still trying to figure out the benefits of this practice
The people behind this show had a commitment for 20 episodes, so there wee going to be 20 episodes whether it would be a 20 episode season or two 10 episode seasons. Typically that's how animation works - a predetermined number of episodes which can be made into how ever many seasons the company wants. By contrast, Mystery Incorporated was greenlit for 52 episodes (which spanned 2 seasons). This show didn't get hate watched (except by the bravest of YT reviewers who were far more entertaining in their reviews than this show could ever hope to be). Most people preferred to watch reviewers do their thing that watch this drek of a show!
It never ceases to...not amaze me at all, that every suggested improvement I've heard for "Velma" was better than the show we got. It's not that hard to make a Scooby Doo show. But if you're coming from a place of spite, too lazy to craft a good story, and disrespectful to the source material, you get shows like "Velma".
@@GIGio_Official I've heard conflicting things. But I think the end result clearly demonstrates the creators wanted to do some variety of adult animated comedy. But were basically shoe horned into making it based on an existing nostalgic property they didn't like.
What is sad that people over estimate the viewship since many animated shows are contracted to release 2 seasons, and they held off the announcement. The question should be for all the shows canceled by WB, why wasn’t this on that list.
It doesn't help that a lot of people tuned in for the first episode, which aired after HBO axed all their good animated series as tax write-offs. So "journalists" could write stories about how big the premiere was and act like the show was popular.
@@MrDj232 People were going to tune in for a remake of a popular show + a weird marketing push. Also "best animated premiere on HBO" doesn't mean much as they have few such shows. 2nd season just came because they made or planned to make 20 episodes and split it into two
@G.I. Gio It is often because if the shows they work are made with 2 seasons and hope it is successful and get it into production early, since it takes longer to make animated season compared to a live action show
There are series made with love, series made with "Well it pays the bills", and then there is Velma. A series made with HATE. The writers HATE Scooby Doo and its fans. And it shows!
This show is definitely more of a woke satire than respecting the original concept... But it's presented to the world with love and made for today's children, so it must be genuine and good! 🤮
Adding onto the mystery section, if Fred's mom is a hypnotist she could have saved herself and everyone else the trouble by just working that magic on Fred to get him to do what she wants.
Wonderful video Gio! I think it's also worth mentioning how awful Mindy Kaling is as well, because so many of the criticisms of Velma can apply to all of her characters, and even to Mindy herself from what I've heard. The main character in Never Have I Ever, Devi, is just as unlikeable, annoying, selfish and generally terrible to everyone around her, and is consistently rewarded for this behaviour. Plus, Mindy herself has said on record that she committed SA against one of her co-stars and used her power to bully employees into not saying anything. She said this on a late night talk show as a funny aside, a hilarious anecdote, because it's super funny when women do it to their co-stars apparently. She's an awful person, her characters are awful, and I hope that she is one day held accountable for the toxicity she brings to Hollywood and the bad name she gives female actors of colour. But anyway, great video as always Gio!
Damn if that is all true, that is crazy. And thank you so much. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and now we can all put Velma behind us....until season 2
The Ego Kaling has to pre decide that EVERY ONE of the Mystery Gang was 100% going to simp not for Velma, but for HER. She had to be the smartest, the funniest, the most relatable, and the most desired in the room. Her ego had its own ego in this abomination of a series. I hope, now people got past their morbid curiosity with the first season, that the second gets absolutely abysmal views/attention, so Kaling can crawl back to her safe space surrounded by her echo chamber of friends.
From what I'm seeing, it wasn't hate watching that got the show a second season. HBO payed for 20 episodes up front, and split that order into two seasons. Now that they payed for it, they have to run it.
@@chatnoir3025in the cases of those projects, those were used as a tax write off and as such, they were vaulted and could never be aired. Velma though, was somehow picked to air and as such they are contractually obligated to air both seasons. The real test will be if anything more comes from it
@@GIGio_OfficialI wanna point out that Mindy and the creator got their asses kissed by the executives. They thought this was a good idea. The Nielson ratings says otherwise
It's done all the time. They order 2 seasons, shortly after the fist one comes out they announce the second season to boost hype and SEO. If the show does poorly after that, they quietly cancel it to save face.
I think that i remember hearing that they ordered 20 episodes from the beginning and that even without the hate watching it still would've gotten a second season.
And yet it's dumb how they just early announce a Season 2 right off the bat when clearly a producers and writters make a series, They work on Season 1 and while season 1 airs, They work on Season 2 and put it on hold, Then if Season 1 finale ends great making the ratings good enough for profits then they can officially announce a Season 2 and continue their work. But if Season 1 ends up failing with the bad ratings or worst ones, Then they put their Season 2 on hold in the dumpster while possibly revealing what Season could've been with the characters and plots for the fans. But the producers for Velma have huge level amount of stupidity as i don't understand how is that even possible.
I would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that a Christmas-themed prequel to the 3D animated movie "Scoob" that was almost done was canceled at the last minute in 2022 by Warner Bros as a tax write-off. A movie that the animators still went ahead and completed just for themselves even though they knew it was never going to be shown to the public. And we still got THIS.........
And there was a Hex Girls movie that got canned..... But we're getting a new adult Flintstones show starring Pebbles yay........ Thank God I don't have HBO Max
You left out the part where Daphne is a violent Monster, who, at the beginning of episode one, savagely beat one of her classmates over a disagreement.
I say this a lot about the Velma show. This was always a Mindy vanity project. She sees herself as Velma. That the whole world revolves around Mindy. Everyone wants to do everything to make her happy. No one calls her out. And everyone is in love with her. Anyone that doubts Mindy isn't a narcissist has this show as an example she is.
My girlfriend is both a psychologist and a HUGE The Office fan, meaning she’s seen a lot of interviews and knows quite a bit of information about the main cast and its writers….And she agrees with your assessment of her. Oh and Mindy should stop playing the “my difficult times growing up” considering her upper middle class upbringing in the Boston area.
Hey Gio. First of all, no, you were not too harsh on this show. Not even close. I couldn't even finish episode 1. Yeah, it WAS THAT bad for me. This show hates everyone and was only made for the 9 people in the writers' room. I enjoyed this video. Your editing is immaculate as always and your comedy was funny and of course, I like your take on timing and how it's important. (Something I'm trying to work on with my jokes) Also, just wanted to say that your Arrow video last month actually inspired me to dedicate to working out. I've been going strong for a month. So, thank you, take that what you will.
I just learned about this practice and it doesn't make a lick of sense to me. Why greenlit something for two seasons without seeing the viewership it can get. Like genuinely I don't get it.
@@GIGio_Official because money. No I'm not being sarcastic, that's actually the reason. From the network's PoV More seasons = higher chance for people to be interested in the series as a whole= better ratings, better ratings= lots of money. Does this way of thinking work in practice? No, not really. But for some ungodly reason, networks keep doing this.
The dumbest part about Victoria’s plan is the fact that she didn’t hypnotize Fred into being more competent. Like why steal ppl’s brains at all, when you’re skilled with hypnosis
She couldn't do that a brain can only work at maximum capacity. If she hypnotized Ferd to be smart he would say a bunch of cliches he thinks a smart person would say rather than do anything that was actually smart.
About Velma getting a second season, there might be more to this story than we think. A while ago, I heard about this trick that has happened before where the creators of a show will order a single season's worth of episodes and then split them into two seasons in order to make it look like there was enough popular demand to warrant more seasons. Now I'm not saying that's what Mindy Kaling did. I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if that turned out to be true.
@Will N And there's victorious, the show on nickolodeon. there was originally gonna have 3 seasons but they split the third season in half making a season 4
It definitely doesn't deserve to be to the third lowest rated show, that is giving it far too much credit. It is a microcosm of weird personal politics and irrational hatred. It is the worst thing to be created by humans, outside of anything that kills whole swathes of them.
I just hope this is the last "remake" of our favourite childhood shows, imagine if the media industry decided to remade, Captain Planet, or Ben 10, or Samurai Jack and make it as "WOKE" as possible or worst hire Mindy Kaling to be the writer and self insert herself again.
See i just learned about this practice and it makes no sense to me. Why greenlight a show for two seasons for 2 seasons without even seeing how the first one does. That can't be good business!
I concur plus when it comes to hate watching...some people don't actually watch it on the actual services. I've learnt more than enough about this show from all the youtubers critiquing and reacting to it.
@@GIGio_Official Animation is time consuming and expensive. Giving animated shows the standard 6 episode launch doesn't work because you can't finish the season while it's airing. Instead studios will ask for a set number of episodes and then greenlight work on the next season if the first does well. Although I have no idea why HBO asked for 20 episodes right off the bat since seasons are typically 8-12 episodes. Maybe they were banking too much on Mindy Kaling and Scooby Doo to bring viewers through name recognition alone.
@@MrDj232 I mean maybe. In my mind that’s why we wait years for a sequel to anything animated and that’s understandable. The only harm in waiting to green light a second season would be that it would come out later. But still I feel like that would save WB money if they just waited
Thus reminds me of the quote "but common sense came out people say it wasn't that bad..... omg they hated it" as well the line "people find it more fun to hate it then like it" which are all true.
Anyone remember shows like TRON: Uprising, Motor City and Wander Over Yonder? Because they all have one thing in common: They got screwed over because the network they aired on preferred other shows over them.
Velma didn't get a second season because it was "hate-watched so much", they had already decided to give it a second season before season 1 even aired.
People say the Velma character is the writer doing a self insert fantasy, but I think they're wrong. The writer's self insert are all the characters that have their brains removed 🤣
I think the real kicker with Fred's mom is boys tend to gain their intelligence when the X chromosome is passed on. Sooo if he is dumber then a wet brick well where did he get it from then? because he only has 2 parents and only one of you has 2 Xs and only the one with 2 Xs pass on an X.
I think the real kicker is that all the women in this show cause their own problems! Fred's mom didn't raise him properly or at least give him a shot at getting interested in the business (or hypnotize him to become great at it) , Velma's mom has issues and apparently was NOT happy in her marriage to Velma's dad, Daphne is a violent little drug dealing mean girl who is sexually confused, and Norville's mom cucked his dad into oblivion! Velma is the worst of them all due to her bad attitude and self inflating ego! This is NOT the Velma we have come to know over the years.
The finger snapping gets worse, someone noted that we see people snap their fingers in front of Velma a lot in tbe first quarter of the show. Pretty much none of the mystery elements was given any care.
As far as I'm aware the hate watching isn't the reason for the 2nd season, apparently they were always going to do 20 episodes, and they decided to split it into two sets of 10 to do 2 seasons
It was already slated for a second season before the first episode aired hate watching was very low, in fact it average views after episode was extremely low
It has one redeeming quality, one tiny insignificant speck of a quality that makes this show good It's such hot garbage that it united the entire internet, in agreement that Velma is ... 🎉The worst piece of media ever produced🎉
It probably got a second season because it was already made, not because it got hate watched so much. They probably just animated 20 episodes and broke it up into two seasons.
Stop perpetuating this myth that hate watching got this show a season 2. Episodes take a long time to make. It’s more likely the season was meant to be longer, but WB and HBO decided to cut it in half and are calling the other half season 2 for marketing purposes.
I get what your saying, but shows get signed for another season before the the prior finishes airing all the time. If they really did split up the season than why would the show have a (sloppy) but clear ending for the season. I'm sorry but i just don't see that making sense. For me the idea of Warner Brothers seeing the viewership of the first couple episode and immediately signing another season makes more sense then them not seeing any data and basically giving a show 2 seasons off the rip.
Literally a bunch of projects gets scrapped and canceled and this garbage gets another season. David Zaslav is being a clown as always in Warner Bros. And this is just sad how much they're beating and sabotaging HBO Max left and right. And what even sickens me even more is that Mindy Kaling has gotten a medal from Biden from this. America and the entertainment industry is really falling apart. It feels like the whole world is run by clowns now.
I've posted a comment on another video somewhere. Basically, I said that the only good thing to come out of Velma is that it's convinced the audience to give other shows a chance that they previously hadn't. Got more people into watching the older shows again
Not Shaggy should have gotten a restraining order on Velma after she accuses his father, and got half of his house destroyed. Same with Fred after he gets outta prison after SHE put him there!
Yep, but one "I love you" not even to his face makes Not Shaggy abandon any other relationships and jump bank into simping for Mindy Kal- I mean Velma. Fred has some leeway in how stupid he is, but Not Shaggy has the behaviors of an abuse victim! And then there's Daphne just randomly being a love interest for no other reason than to check a box for what writers think LGBTQ+ representation!
One of the best examples of meta humor comes from a lot of the older parody movies like Spaceballs airplane naked gun scary movie 1 and 2 that type of stuff is good meta humor
That’s why the Danny phantom Trio works because Danny gets called out for the Bad action and Same with Teen Titans , Fairly oddparents and scooby doo and ben ten and more Danny phantom is my all time favorite show
So...bout that snapping comment. Velma is snapped at when Daphne and her friends are surrounding her by the lockers. Which by all definition should break the hypnotism, but it doesn't. Because that that point in the show, we dont know any of that. But as a mystery show, continuity should be one of the most important factors.
Mindy got an award from the PRESIDENT because of this show. If that doesn’t show how bad western entertainment has gotten, idk what does. There is no value to awards. Not related to Velma, but have you seen Mindy? A few months ago she was super heavy. Like how she looks in Velma (because gotta self insert). But now when she has slimmed down. Anyone know why? Diet and exercise? No that would be the proper way to get healthy. No no no, she hopped on the new Hollywood trend of weight loss by injecting herself with the diabetic medicine ozempic. In spite of not having diabetes. Mindy is injecting herself with a medicine she doesn’t need. Contributing to a mass shortage. My dad is diabetic and NEEDS ozempic, but Mindy uses it because, unlike what she preaches in her show, she wants to be thin and pretty. All of Hollywood is like this. Narcissistic, selfish, and all around vile people. Mindy is the worst one right now because of how bad her show was. I’m sick of these entitled people and how much influence they have on our culture. And they don’t even make anything GOOD.
Dude I've been binging your old videos since I just found the channel Your ability to summarize things and critique with the engaging use of visuals and explanation is something else. Good work
Your suggestions seem like a pretty great way to tie all these seemingly disconnected storylines together in a satisfying way. And yeah, the killer of a mystery show should probably receive sufficient setup lol
Hello no it does not deserve a damn thing. Only reason it is getting a second season is cause of the hate and cause Mindy was lucky that WB already bought the show for 26 episodes so it had to get another second just so they could get their money back. Personally everyone that worked on this would be fired and this would have never seen the light of day. We lost the Hex Girls TV show for this? This is bullshit. Also love your channel bro.
Thanks for the love bro ! Always appreciate it. But yeah, i feel like a lot of people that make shows that turn out this bad, feel entitled to praise. When if they wanted praise they should have made a better show
@@GIGio_Official I am still pissed we lost the Hex Girls tv series to this. This show is basically a how to not make a socially conscious show. Also a How to Not make a Comedy and a How to Not make a mystery. This is why we can't have nice things cause someone always ruins it.
thing about the creative team is some seem like genuinely ok people I remember a storyboarder who put the show in his bio with pride because he was happy with how much work he did and, as bad as the show was, that he managed to make one of the better aspects if only the rest of the team had that spunk
The thing I hate most about this show is that so many other animated projects got scrapped but this garbage was the only one to make the cut!
It makes negative sense
Or it's like winning a marathon but all the other contestants were drugged.
We lost Infinity Train for this
@@mapoking5087 Actually they were bragging that it was the highest view premier of HBOMAX original animation, but that has even less competitors. Most of HBOMAX animations series are from Cartoon Network, Boomerang, Adult Swim and DC universe streaming. And while they may have aired new seasons of some of the shows that didn't make them originals since they didn't first air on HBOMAX. Now I don't know the exact number but I doubt it's more than ten so yeah not much of a victory.
They way Hbo congratulates itself on the velma show. It's like picking up a 💩 by the clean end.
It’s not a Scooby doo series. It’s just Mindy’s ego trip that became a tv show
It definitely isn't a Scooby doo series.
Accurate as heck man.
@@GIGio_Official Did you know that Pensuke’s Puppet, awarded Mindy and gave her a ministry in the arts or something.
the fact that all the main characters fall in love with her is further proof of her ego stroking...
That's true.
There is one good thing about the show. After watching it, I’ve been able to fully appreciate how entertaining it is to watch paint dry.
Very True.
The thing is...there's actually progress in paint drying unlike in Velma
@@GIGio_Official At 1st I thought Velma was going to be like the Harley Quinn show meets mystery incorporated but I was so wrong I honestly didn't care for any of the characters And it sucks that it's getting a season 2 while so many other shows guide canceled before they even came on the air on HBO Max. Which by the way the show was already green live for a season 2 and it wasn't because of hate watching You want to know something even more painful Mindy caviling got an award from the president for the arts or something. If you want to watch a better adult show with comedy I suggest you check out the legend of Vox Makita if you like Dunn is in dragons and stuff then give it a watch it has 2 seasons
@@kingj9664 this was my exact thought but then episode 1 hit and I just said that it felt like I was developing a cancer so severe that not even the greatest medical geniuses combined could hope to cure, they murdered my childhood in the most brutal way possible
I have learned to appreciate even be cool scooby doo after watching velma
I can't believe they got Dennis Reynolds to voice the new Fred, while the Old Fred is literally the disappointed Father.
That may be the funniest thing about this show.
@@GIGio_Official Indeed. Frank Welker is just lucky to be here. So is Cherry Jones, who did a fantastic job at performing the mother's voice in Velma's dramatic moments. I just think it is sort of a nice touch that Velma hired an actress who really has the last name Jones to play the mother of Fred Jones.
So much Scooby-Doo media to see, from old cartoons to even the fan made live action on UA-cam. We can all just forget this was ever a thing. This show is the epitome of a show made for no one. For a visual representation it would be the scene in Madagascar 2: "The good news is that we will be landing immediately. The bad news is, we're crash landing."
I've never read a more accurate comment before in my life. LMFAO. I couldn't agree more
It was made for one person: Mindy Kaling, and only Mindy Kaling.
@@jimi_jams amen 🙏
@Edge Valmond There is always The Pensuke Files
@Edge Valmond m.ua-cam.com/video/skIeYYwDAvw/v-deo.html
Y’know the entire plot for the show could have been avoided if Fred’s mom just used hypnotism on Fred.
Just shows how bad the writing is lol. (She could've also adopted a girl and hypnotized her is she hated having a son so much, just saying.)
Or you know, get someone else to manage the company.
........ fuck you right
@@Imman1s nah that would be too smart 🤔
Or she could have raised him better. I hated how she criticised him for being what they made him.
Velma also treat Sophie like trash, Sophie who is overall a nice woman, loving and caring mother and clearly good regarding keeping the house beautiful and clean.
And she saved her from one of her fake hypnosis heart attacks in the first episode. Sophie literally saved Velma's life and Velma keeps band-mouthing and mistreating her and doesn't give her so much as a "thank you."
@@maxcloud753 she also treat Amanda like trash, her litteral baby sister.
OMG I FORGOT ABOUT HER. Yeah Velma gave her so much shit for no reason. Lets not forget that Vemla locker her and her child out of the house.
@@GIGio_Official before the show I could get it because dad's girlfriend and all that, but she saved her life, drove her to places (like when Velma dressed like some weird elve/troll thing) and is her sister's mother.
There's anger at the "other woman" and then there's treating family like trash.
Sophie was one of the only few likeable characters
What’s even more messed up. A few Scooby-Doo movies were canceled in favor of this show. We could’ve had Scoody-Doo and Krypto Too!!!
And Hex Girls movie too
clearly life is pain
The krypton movie 🎬 🎞 🎥 is actually being made after all.
@@ChisomagaIhezie Well that’s great to hear
@@GIGio_Official Said best by Dr. House.
I'm going to correct you on one thing. Velma was greenlight for a second season after the first episode was released. So hate watching has nothing to do with this. Plus Velma viewership was surpisingly low but due to the fax that HBO doesn't have any current animations shows on there streaming service (after getting rid of them all) Velma became the top animation show on there streaming service. Plus the real reason scooby doo isn't in Velma is because Hanna-Barbera Productions refuses to allow them to use him and Hanna-Barbera believed it would hurt scooby doo as a brand
That idea of greenlighting a show for a second season before getting the numbers for the first one boggles my mind. No matter how you slice it it doesn't make a lick of sense. I literally just learned about this practice today and im still trying to figure out the benefits of this practice
The people behind this show had a commitment for 20 episodes, so there wee going to be 20 episodes whether it would be a 20 episode season or two 10 episode seasons. Typically that's how animation works - a predetermined number of episodes which can be made into how ever many seasons the company wants. By contrast, Mystery Incorporated was greenlit for 52 episodes (which spanned 2 seasons). This show didn't get hate watched (except by the bravest of YT reviewers who were far more entertaining in their reviews than this show could ever hope to be). Most people preferred to watch reviewers do their thing that watch this drek of a show!
welp hanna-barbera was right if they had let them use scooby the brand would be unavoidably dead.
Can we talk about how f---ed up it is how photographers took photos of a minor!??!!??!?
weed
Its same show where two cops shoot a innocent minor in legs and smile.
Why are you censoring yourself? For fucks sake lol
Damn straight.😄@@absolutedeath_666
It never ceases to...not amaze me at all, that every suggested improvement I've heard for "Velma" was better than the show we got. It's not that hard to make a Scooby Doo show. But if you're coming from a place of spite, too lazy to craft a good story, and disrespectful to the source material, you get shows like "Velma".
It really is incredibly how badly someone can miss the mark. Like why work on show if you hate the source material
@@GIGio_Official I've heard conflicting things. But I think the end result clearly demonstrates the creators wanted to do some variety of adult animated comedy. But were basically shoe horned into making it based on an existing nostalgic property they didn't like.
What is sad that people over estimate the viewship since many animated shows are contracted to release 2 seasons, and they held off the announcement. The question should be for all the shows canceled by WB, why wasn’t this on that list.
It doesn't help that a lot of people tuned in for the first episode, which aired after HBO axed all their good animated series as tax write-offs. So "journalists" could write stories about how big the premiere was and act like the show was popular.
@@MrDj232 People were going to tune in for a remake of a popular show + a weird marketing push.
Also "best animated premiere on HBO" doesn't mean much as they have few such shows.
2nd season just came because they made or planned to make 20 episodes and split it into two
i will never understand greenliting something for more than a season without seeing what the reaction is. It makes negative sense to me.
@G.I. Gio It is often because if the shows they work are made with 2 seasons and hope it is successful and get it into production early, since it takes longer to make animated season compared to a live action show
There are series made with love, series made with "Well it pays the bills", and then there is Velma. A series made with HATE.
The writers HATE Scooby Doo and its fans.
And it shows!
This show is definitely more of a woke satire than respecting the original concept... But it's presented to the world with love and made for today's children, so it must be genuine and good! 🤮
Adding onto the mystery section, if Fred's mom is a hypnotist she could have saved herself and everyone else the trouble by just working that magic on Fred to get him to do what she wants.
Wonderful video Gio! I think it's also worth mentioning how awful Mindy Kaling is as well, because so many of the criticisms of Velma can apply to all of her characters, and even to Mindy herself from what I've heard. The main character in Never Have I Ever, Devi, is just as unlikeable, annoying, selfish and generally terrible to everyone around her, and is consistently rewarded for this behaviour. Plus, Mindy herself has said on record that she committed SA against one of her co-stars and used her power to bully employees into not saying anything. She said this on a late night talk show as a funny aside, a hilarious anecdote, because it's super funny when women do it to their co-stars apparently. She's an awful person, her characters are awful, and I hope that she is one day held accountable for the toxicity she brings to Hollywood and the bad name she gives female actors of colour. But anyway, great video as always Gio!
Damn if that is all true, that is crazy. And thank you so much. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and now we can all put Velma behind us....until season 2
@@GIGio_Official Definitely true! The clip is available on YT - Kaling was on Conan O'Brien's talk show discussing it.
The Ego Kaling has to pre decide that EVERY ONE of the Mystery Gang was 100% going to simp not for Velma, but for HER.
She had to be the smartest, the funniest, the most relatable, and the most desired in the room. Her ego had its own ego in this abomination of a series.
I hope, now people got past their morbid curiosity with the first season, that the second gets absolutely abysmal views/attention, so Kaling can crawl back to her safe space surrounded by her echo chamber of friends.
From what I'm seeing, it wasn't hate watching that got the show a second season. HBO payed for 20 episodes up front, and split that order into two seasons. Now that they payed for it, they have to run it.
@@chatnoir3025in the cases of those projects, those were used as a tax write off and as such, they were vaulted and could never be aired. Velma though, was somehow picked to air and as such they are contractually obligated to air both seasons. The real test will be if anything more comes from it
You ask me that's just bad business
@@GIGio_OfficialI wanna point out that Mindy and the creator got their asses kissed by the executives. They thought this was a good idea. The Nielson ratings says otherwise
It's done all the time. They order 2 seasons, shortly after the fist one comes out they announce the second season to boost hype and SEO. If the show does poorly after that, they quietly cancel it to save face.
It's really funny that Zombie Island and Mystery Incorporated had done a darker and edgier take on Scooby Doo the right way.
🎵You hear the screeching of an owl.
You hear the wind begin to howl.
You know there's zombies on the proooowl.🎵
@@zeldaprincessgirl100 It's Terroor Time again!
@@zemox2534 They got you running through the night!🎵
Anyone can make a better show than Velma by taking time and listening to critique, even the actual writers.
That's what make this show so baffling to me. Like the writers must have had blindfolds and earmuffs on while writing it.
@@GIGio_Official Indeed
My series is far better than “Velma”.
@@GIGio_Officialthat’s true
The word “Oxygen Thief” applies to Velma’s character.
I think that i remember hearing that they ordered 20 episodes from the beginning and that even without the hate watching it still would've gotten a second season.
I believe you, but that practice makes no goddamn sense to me. Personally or business wise.
@@GIGio_Official Yeah I don't get it either.
Crazy thing is,the second season was already being made without the hate watching
That really just boggles my mind
Ikr
And yet it's dumb how they just early announce a Season 2 right off the bat when clearly a producers and writters make a series, They work on Season 1 and while season 1 airs, They work on Season 2 and put it on hold, Then if Season 1 finale ends great making the ratings good enough for profits then they can officially announce a Season 2 and continue their work.
But if Season 1 ends up failing with the bad ratings or worst ones, Then they put their Season 2 on hold in the dumpster while possibly revealing what Season could've been with the characters and plots for the fans. But the producers for Velma have huge level amount of stupidity as i don't understand how is that even possible.
You know what Shaggy loves? Food, huge amount of food.
Norville is a Total Drama Shaggy impersonator.
Gio; Why are you smiling ?
Velma: hahahahaha.
The show damn near killed me
Best analysis 🧐 love it you really nailed every single detail of this awful of a show
thank you so much! I'm really happy you enjoyed the video and hope to see you around for the next
I would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone that a Christmas-themed prequel to the 3D animated movie "Scoob" that was almost done was canceled at the last minute in 2022 by Warner Bros as a tax write-off. A movie that the animators still went ahead and completed just for themselves even though they knew it was never going to be shown to the public.
And we still got THIS.........
And there was a Hex Girls movie that got canned..... But we're getting a new adult Flintstones show starring Pebbles yay........
Thank God I don't have HBO Max
You left out the part where Daphne is a violent Monster, who, at the beginning of episode one, savagely beat one of her classmates over a disagreement.
I disagree with you. Velma isn't just the worst show ever. It's just the worst...thing ever made.
You may be write. I still Hate Naomi more tho
I say this a lot about the Velma show. This was always a Mindy vanity project. She sees herself as Velma. That the whole world revolves around Mindy. Everyone wants to do everything to make her happy. No one calls her out. And everyone is in love with her. Anyone that doubts Mindy isn't a narcissist has this show as an example she is.
My girlfriend is both a psychologist and a HUGE The Office fan, meaning she’s seen a lot of interviews and knows quite a bit of information about the main cast and its writers….And she agrees with your assessment of her. Oh and Mindy should stop playing the “my difficult times growing up” considering her upper middle class upbringing in the Boston area.
I wish more ppl can talk about how Velma is the reflection of a narcissistic Mendy, she made everyone in the show simp for her even though she sucks
no Velma doesn't deserve to be the 3rd worst-rated show on HBO, it should be the first worst-rated show.
I will co sign this campaign
Mindy was the true villian in Velma, killing childhood characters.
Hey Gio. First of all, no, you were not too harsh on this show. Not even close. I couldn't even finish episode 1. Yeah, it WAS THAT bad for me. This show hates everyone and was only made for the 9 people in the writers' room.
I enjoyed this video. Your editing is immaculate as always and your comedy was funny and of course, I like your take on timing and how it's important. (Something I'm trying to work on with my jokes)
Also, just wanted to say that your Arrow video last month actually inspired me to dedicate to working out. I've been going strong for a month. So, thank you, take that what you will.
The only people who did a good job were the voice actors( excluding Kaling) and the animators
remember everyone watch literally every single other Scooby-Doo show ever made not this thing that ISN'T part of the franchise
The counsel has spoken.
Season 2 wasn't green lit because of hate watching, season 2 was already Green light before the second episode even aired.
I just learned about this practice and it doesn't make a lick of sense to me. Why greenlit something for two seasons without seeing the viewership it can get. Like genuinely I don't get it.
@@GIGio_Official because money. No I'm not being sarcastic, that's actually the reason. From the network's PoV More seasons = higher chance for people to be interested in the series as a whole= better ratings, better ratings= lots of money. Does this way of thinking work in practice? No, not really. But for some ungodly reason, networks keep doing this.
SHE, LITERALLY, TWERKS, ON HER, DEAD, CORPSE!!! **several gun shots**
21:20 I just can't but laugh at that sentence.🙂😂😂🙂🥰
The dumbest part about Victoria’s plan is the fact that she didn’t hypnotize Fred into being more competent. Like why steal ppl’s brains at all, when you’re skilled with hypnosis
She couldn't do that a brain can only work at maximum capacity. If she hypnotized Ferd to be smart he would say a bunch of cliches he thinks a smart person would say rather than do anything that was actually smart.
@@icecreamhero2375 and yet she wants Velma’s brain, which would pretty much do the same thing
@@amethystsavage4018 LOL
Mindy Kaling as Velma should've already told use how bad the show would be
About Velma getting a second season, there might be more to this story than we think. A while ago, I heard about this trick that has happened before where the creators of a show will order a single season's worth of episodes and then split them into two seasons in order to make it look like there was enough popular demand to warrant more seasons. Now I'm not saying that's what Mindy Kaling did. I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if that turned out to be true.
It is. They always planned to make it two seasons - they just used 20 episodes paid in advance to do it.
@Will N And there's victorious, the show on nickolodeon. there was originally gonna have 3 seasons but they split the third season in half making a season 4
It definitely doesn't deserve to be to the third lowest rated show, that is giving it far too much credit.
It is a microcosm of weird personal politics and irrational hatred. It is the worst thing to be created by humans, outside of anything that kills whole swathes of them.
if velma is the third lowest rated show then I cant even imagine how bad the first and second one must be
I need to see the second and first lowest to make that judgment. lol
This video is so good
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Thank god, I never watched this show only saw memes…
Glad i can take the bullet for you
You did yourself a favour by not watching it
I just hope this is the last "remake" of our favourite childhood shows, imagine if the media industry decided to remade, Captain Planet, or Ben 10, or Samurai Jack and make it as "WOKE" as possible or worst hire Mindy Kaling to be the writer and self insert herself again.
Most likely "season 2" is just the second half of season 1. It's unlikely that hate watching produced enough views to green light the second season.
See i just learned about this practice and it makes no sense to me. Why greenlight a show for two seasons for 2 seasons without even seeing how the first one does. That can't be good business!
I concur plus when it comes to hate watching...some people don't actually watch it on the actual services. I've learnt more than enough about this show from all the youtubers critiquing and reacting to it.
@@GIGio_Official Animation is time consuming and expensive. Giving animated shows the standard 6 episode launch doesn't work because you can't finish the season while it's airing. Instead studios will ask for a set number of episodes and then greenlight work on the next season if the first does well. Although I have no idea why HBO asked for 20 episodes right off the bat since seasons are typically 8-12 episodes. Maybe they were banking too much on Mindy Kaling and Scooby Doo to bring viewers through name recognition alone.
@@MrDj232 I mean maybe. In my mind that’s why we wait years for a sequel to anything animated and that’s understandable. The only harm in waiting to green light a second season would be that it would come out later. But still I feel like that would save WB money if they just waited
In the Candy Man episode Daphine, Olive and GiGi(?) snap their fingers 3 - 4 times next to Velma.
Thus reminds me of the quote "but common sense came out people say it wasn't that bad..... omg they hated it" as well the line "people find it more fun to hate it then like it" which are all true.
You watched Velma twice?!?
I could barely watch it once
While I will admit, that I like Norvell, I wouldn't watch it again on a bet
2 times on 1.5xs speed is slightly less painful than normal speed
What I won’t watch Velma but I will watch Gio
I'm here to watch this shit so yall don't have to.
@@GIGio_Official 🙂
Yeah, why didn't Fred's mom get rid of the bodies??
Becasue that would require common sense
Mindy Kailing won a presidential award for her contribution to the arts or whatever other day. That is all.
17:05 This man Norville really fell for the Sakura bullsh** confession.
Anyone remember shows like TRON: Uprising, Motor City and Wander Over Yonder? Because they all have one thing in common: They got screwed over because the network they aired on preferred other shows over them.
Velma didn't get a second season because it was "hate-watched so much", they had already decided to give it a second season before season 1 even aired.
1:34 Don't you mean serialized story structure of Mystery incorporated. The original was episodic.
Its very possible i mixed those two up. Good spot.
You are correct, but the important point is that everyone should watch Mystery Inc because it’s awesome!😊
You know, my friend once said that "I watched Velma on a pirated site, and even then, I feel like I was scammed"
best analysis of this show i’ve seen tbh. keep it up!! ❤
Thanks Kris! I'll try.
People say the Velma character is the writer doing a self insert fantasy, but I think they're wrong. The writer's self insert are all the characters that have their brains removed 🤣
There is no doubt in my mind Mindy hates anyone outside of herself and her circle.
I think the real kicker with Fred's mom is boys tend to gain their intelligence when the X chromosome is passed on. Sooo if he is dumber then a wet brick well where did he get it from then? because he only has 2 parents and only one of you has 2 Xs and only the one with 2 Xs pass on an X.
I think the real kicker is that all the women in this show cause their own problems! Fred's mom didn't raise him properly or at least give him a shot at getting interested in the business (or hypnotize him to become great at it) , Velma's mom has issues and apparently was NOT happy in her marriage to Velma's dad, Daphne is a violent little drug dealing mean girl who is sexually confused, and Norville's mom cucked his dad into oblivion! Velma is the worst of them all due to her bad attitude and self inflating ego! This is NOT the Velma we have come to know over the years.
The finger snapping gets worse, someone noted that we see people snap their fingers in front of Velma a lot in tbe first quarter of the show.
Pretty much none of the mystery elements was given any care.
As far as I'm aware the hate watching isn't the reason for the 2nd season, apparently they were always going to do 20 episodes, and they decided to split it into two sets of 10 to do 2 seasons
I ahte this show so much that I actually referred to the main character as "Vermin." Because SHE is not Velma.
I think what I don’t like about this Velma show is the animation style. It looks more like a mix between a bad anime and BrickleBerry.
I can’t believe there’s a show worse than High Guardian Spice.
Scrappy-Doo, Scooby-Dum, and Flim-Flam deserve an apology.
This was such an amazing video! Couldn’t have gotten through these clips without your great analysis
freds mom goal doesnt make sense. Switching the brain of your beloved son with a psycho brain which hates you doesnt make sense
It was already slated for a second season before the first episode aired hate watching was very low, in fact it average views after episode was extremely low
For as riddiculous as it is to not have scooby. I can’t say that I’m unhappy he was saved from this trash-fire
It has one redeeming quality, one tiny insignificant speck of a quality that makes this show good
It's such hot garbage that it united the entire internet, in agreement that Velma is ... 🎉The worst piece of media ever produced🎉
I agree. HBÓs Velma just feels more like a gift basket of random garbage. Except that the gift basket is actually a bomb.
Worst show ever made? Someone’s never seen Nutshack..
Who the actual fuck would simp for THIS version of Velma?
Okay but can I just say putting tracks from mystery inc in the background *chef kiss* Has to be my favorite music from this franchise
There are scenes in the show where someone snapped in front of Velma yet she still has the panic attacks
It probably got a second season because it was already made, not because it got hate watched so much. They probably just animated 20 episodes and broke it up into two seasons.
this show made me puke. many many many times
I'm still ill from thinking about it
@@GIGio_Official you know it’s bad when a show makes me miss Batwoman of all things
Stop perpetuating this myth that hate watching got this show a season 2. Episodes take a long time to make. It’s more likely the season was meant to be longer, but WB and HBO decided to cut it in half and are calling the other half season 2 for marketing purposes.
I get what your saying, but shows get signed for another season before the the prior finishes airing all the time. If they really did split up the season than why would the show have a (sloppy) but clear ending for the season. I'm sorry but i just don't see that making sense. For me the idea of Warner Brothers seeing the viewership of the first couple episode and immediately signing another season makes more sense then them not seeing any data and basically giving a show 2 seasons off the rip.
Literally a bunch of projects gets scrapped and canceled and this garbage gets another season.
David Zaslav is being a clown as always in Warner Bros.
And this is just sad how much they're beating and sabotaging HBO Max left and right. And what even sickens me even more is that Mindy Kaling has gotten a medal from Biden from this.
America and the entertainment industry is really falling apart. It feels like the whole world is run by clowns now.
I've posted a comment on another video somewhere. Basically, I said that the only good thing to come out of Velma is that it's convinced the audience to give other shows a chance that they previously hadn't. Got more people into watching the older shows again
Correction: season 2 was already confirmed before the first episode of season 1 dropped
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Not Shaggy should have gotten a restraining order on Velma after she accuses his father, and got half of his house destroyed. Same with Fred after he gets outta prison after SHE put him there!
Yep, but one "I love you" not even to his face makes Not Shaggy abandon any other relationships and jump bank into simping for Mindy Kal- I mean Velma. Fred has some leeway in how stupid he is, but Not Shaggy has the behaviors of an abuse victim! And then there's Daphne just randomly being a love interest for no other reason than to check a box for what writers think LGBTQ+ representation!
One of the best examples of meta humor comes from a lot of the older parody movies like Spaceballs airplane naked gun scary movie 1 and 2 that type of stuff is good meta humor
That’s why the Danny phantom Trio works because Danny gets called out for the Bad action and Same with Teen Titans , Fairly oddparents and scooby doo and ben ten and more Danny phantom is my all time favorite show
this show deserve to burn in the underworld for all eternity while getting stabbed with pitchforks.
Fred being the best character in the main cast is extremely funny
So...bout that snapping comment. Velma is snapped at when Daphne and her friends are surrounding her by the lockers. Which by all definition should break the hypnotism, but it doesn't. Because that that point in the show, we dont know any of that.
But as a mystery show, continuity should be one of the most important factors.
The second season was already planned before the first season was released
Mindy got an award from the PRESIDENT because of this show. If that doesn’t show how bad western entertainment has gotten, idk what does. There is no value to awards.
Not related to Velma, but have you seen Mindy? A few months ago she was super heavy. Like how she looks in Velma (because gotta self insert). But now when she has slimmed down. Anyone know why? Diet and exercise? No that would be the proper way to get healthy. No no no, she hopped on the new Hollywood trend of weight loss by injecting herself with the diabetic medicine ozempic. In spite of not having diabetes. Mindy is injecting herself with a medicine she doesn’t need. Contributing to a mass shortage. My dad is diabetic and NEEDS ozempic, but Mindy uses it because, unlike what she preaches in her show, she wants to be thin and pretty.
All of Hollywood is like this. Narcissistic, selfish, and all around vile people. Mindy is the worst one right now because of how bad her show was. I’m sick of these entitled people and how much influence they have on our culture. And they don’t even make anything GOOD.
Dude I've been binging your old videos since I just found the channel
Your ability to summarize things and critique with the engaging use of visuals and explanation is something else.
Good work
Your suggestions seem like a pretty great way to tie all these seemingly disconnected storylines together in a satisfying way.
And yeah, the killer of a mystery show should probably receive sufficient setup lol
Please, you're saying this in a pre-bedrock world.
You know the hole goes deeper...
Oh it always goes deeper
Please dont let Hazbin Hotel be as bad as Velma
Wait a minute….
The letters in ‘Gigi’ are in G.I.Gio 😮
It was fate 😅
NO. STOP THAT!
@@GIGio_Official lmao💀💀
@@GIGio_OfficialLol I’m kidding 😂
Hello no it does not deserve a damn thing. Only reason it is getting a second season is cause of the hate and cause Mindy was lucky that WB already bought the show for 26 episodes so it had to get another second just so they could get their money back. Personally everyone that worked on this would be fired and this would have never seen the light of day. We lost the Hex Girls TV show for this? This is bullshit. Also love your channel bro.
Thanks for the love bro ! Always appreciate it. But yeah, i feel like a lot of people that make shows that turn out this bad, feel entitled to praise. When if they wanted praise they should have made a better show
@@GIGio_Official I am still pissed we lost the Hex Girls tv series to this. This show is basically a how to not make a socially conscious show. Also a How to Not make a Comedy and a How to Not make a mystery. This is why we can't have nice things cause someone always ruins it.
Scooby Dooby Doo WHERE ARE YOU!?!
He escaped like we should haved
Velma isn't a Scooby-Doo series. That's really all there is to it.
This show showed even you can make something so bad that it’s universally hated it becomes the 4th worst show
It deserves to be the 1# MOST HATED SHOW EVER MADE, change my mind
I don't plan to change your mind. lol
thing about the creative team is some seem like genuinely ok people
I remember a storyboarder who put the show in his bio with pride because he was happy with how much work he did and, as bad as the show was, that he managed to make one of the better aspects
if only the rest of the team had that spunk
Don't worry Gio, I find your brand of comedy funny. Heck I daresay that your jokes blows Velma out of the water.
Why thank you kind sir