Sound good, but I cannot lap a cross plane liter bike as fast as a standard platform. The way the engine braking and power is applied is just detrimental to my particular cornering style and I could never field a cross plane R1 during race season. It may sound strange to some, but the power pulses are just not conducive to my riding style.
I love the how you started this video off.. The sound off in the distance, the roar of the engines.. It was suspenseful... GREAT footage as usual! You put this together really nicely! Thank you for your time and energy! My friends and I love watching them.. Everyone looked great! EVEN the DRZ! The helicopter was very cool.... I was not distracted! lol....
i have to say, the ducati v2 sound and this crossplane turbine/thunder sound combined with the beastly look of the headlights and the R1 in general are the most sexiest things you can get out there!
The sound of those cross-plane engines are growing on me! I like the "muscle" sound of the ducati V-twin, but also like the high RPM scream of the traditional Japanese flat-plane engines. This cross-plane design seems to have both characteristics. She still screams when she gets up there.
its fun to watch all the different riding styles and how some work better than others. i would love to have a road like this where I live. nothing we have even comes close to this place!
@Thomazz46 I just bought a Crossplane R1, actually in part because of Adey's videos. I also got the Graves low-mount full exhaust for 2 main reasons: 1) the stainless steel version drops 15 pounds of weight, centralizes the mass and moves the center of gravity lower for better handling (see any Buell or the Ducati 1199) and 2) It is one of the BEST sounding internal combustion motors I have ever heard with this exhaust. I've never heard any undertail exhaust sound like this.
Some of those cross plane R1s look very planted and stable mid turn. Judging by the sound of the non cross plane bikes, the new R1's engine helps compliment a calm chasis as opposed to the conventional inline fours. Sorry, I'm rambling on my observations. Great video!!!
Ahhhh..I remember this day! We were the only guys out riding that morning lol. This was before 215Crew got his leathers too. I needed this vid! Thanks Ken!
@Wopadas The 2009-CURRENT R1 is the first production motorcycle to have a Cross-Plane crankshaft. Crossplane technology, first pioneered in MotoGP racing with the M1, puts each piston 90° from the next, with an uneven firing interval of 270°- 180°- 90°- 180°. The result is like having two engines in one: the low-rpm torquey feel of a twin with the raw, high-rpm power of an inline four. Previous model R1's were inline fours.
@FruittisMaris Thanks! We did have a GoPro on the helicopter but it didn't come out great. If I had anything worthwhile I would have added it to this video
@The848evo The suits with the logo on the hump are older Laguna Seca models that are not sold in stores anymore. The red suit like mine in the video is the current Laguna Seca model.
@viasevenvai Chill, the crankshaft IS in fact out of balance ON PORPOUSE. This is something that´s been done in some bikes since years. In the 90´s Doohan´s nsr500 had the four combustions of the cilinders grouped in a few degrees, so the engine wasn´t so violent cause there was a bigger gap of time where the engine didn´t send power to the backwheel, making it similar to a V2 or a big single. It´s necessary to compensate the effects of this on the crankshaf with couterweights and balance axis.
@derberlinersmurf and @ExtremeDeathman I know the crossplane tech is old, it's been used by many in MotoGP. That is why Rossi suggested Yamaha to use it when he crossed over. Because of it's success for others like Honda. But it's Yamaha's claim not mine that the R1 is the first production inline 4 to have this tech. I'm sure they didn't forget about their TRX850 which is a twin.
@roossi the one you hear is a ZX10 in the vid. if you mean newer vs old, it's because of the "big bang" motor or crossplane motor they came out with in 09 i believe. not to mention the firing order and timing.
HAHAHAHA I was wondering when someone was going to say that! most of the riders in this video were riding very crossed! I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who noticed it.
@blackedout650 Ha no we didn't buy in bulk. We should be sponsored by them by now tho;) In response to your question about Dainese to Astars. My previous suit was Astars MX-1 which is direct competitor to my Dainese Laguna Seca suit. The Dainese suit is lighter and the leather has a more supple feel to it. I felt like there was no break-in period with my Dainese suit. Besides, Dainese has a more subtle cleaner look to it. Astars is kinda cartoony with all the plastic armor every where. My .02
Oh yeah! There's some awesome sounding bikes there... I would sit on that corner and watch all day... but then I'd be disappointed I didn't ride all day. Haha The stubby exhaust on the R1 looks pretty good! Damn those crossplane crank R1's sound good!
Given that 4-cyls can be put into cross-plane and firing close cylinder arrangement, I wonder about changing the firing order on a 5 cylinder. 1,1,1-2,1,1-2, or take the 5-cyl crank and making the middle three journals on one plane, and the outer two journals on another... We get a growl on a 4-cylinder, so a 5-cylinder must do something similar.
they all sound nice. i actually kinda like that throaty tone the r1's have. kinda reminds me a Duc in a way. has a lot to do with the exhaust too. r1+ akrapovic = pure awesome
@viasevenvai The crossplane concept means losing a few hp on the higher sector to have a wider and more powerfull middle sector because that´s where the average rider is at most of the time. The reality is that the average rider wont go for an R1, he´ll go for an FZ1, and on the other hand it´s lost 20 hp to the S1000RR and 15hp to the ZX-10 because it can´t rev up so fast and high due to internal balance and doesn´t have the torque on the middle sector of an 1198 because it has 200cc less.
So do you really gain such a big benefit out of slicks on the road? I run Michelin Pilot Power for example. And the great thing about this tire is that it also has a very high grip level, even when its still cold. And as far as I know, slick tires have pretty pour grip levels in cold conditions..? I hope you get my question Adey :D, my english is a bit rusty, im grom Germany.. Ah, by the way, your a star!! ;)
@ablacklakeawhitelake Sorry if I'm sounding mad but seriously there is no way the crankshaft is "out of balance." Maybe the angles are changed but the proper counter weight is imperative for the spinning assemble to not destroy itself. Imagine what a tire does if it's not balanced. I've driven a car at 60mph with an out of balance tire before (not the wheel, just the tire) and it was brutal. If the crank is spinning at 10,000 rpm there is no way it is out of balance. I believe you misread.
@viasevenvai Don´t worry, I might not be explaining myself properly. Of course the crankshat is balanced by adding counterweights and balance axis, what I´m saying is that this "unnatural" configuration makes the crankshaft heavier, which is worse for revving up fast, but this bigger inertia improves the middle range and makes it an easier engine. The balance axis take power from the crankshaft that otherwise would go to the rear wheel. A 180º crankshat is simpler and lighter, and more agresive
The best balance (not perfect though), and the simplest structure for an in-line four is one combustion every 180º. If you go for something else, the crankshaft will suffer bigger torsions that you have to deal with. It´s not better or worse itself, it´s just a design decission. In my area, the proffesional motor publications have compared all SBK´s since this R1 was released and has been placed in the last always, because they´re judged with SBK standards, not because they´ve friendly engines.
@junior12343 For the 09-10 R1's they are using Graves, and Akrapovic. The Kawi ZX10 had the yoshimuras. I'm not sure about the Rossi replica and the moto bike
Slicks are only good in hot conditions. Once hot they do feel amazing, but it's not worth the risk on the street when today's street tires are offering grip levels comparable to DOT race tires from 3 years ago.
I am not too big into bikes so forgive my ignorance, I see the name of the video has cross plane in it..... I assume you are referring to the crank? Do normal R1's have flat plane cranks? The black bike sounds amazing.
Any R1 after 2009 is crossplane. Any of the ones in the video that have the deep guttural v4 sound are crossplane. The special edition Fiat R1 in the video is a pre-2009 and has traditional firing order and high pitched sounds like a normal I4.
Nice vid, nice bikes, very nice sound! The r1 crossplane cranks sound very unique. I'd love to hit this road up with my sv... But it would be a day and half of riding just to get there lol. You guys buy all those leathers bulk for a deal or what? Haha. How do the dainese compare to alpinestars? In the market for some soon..
Which team of motoGP have you escaped from?? That matt R1's with low side exhaust are beatiful!! I love them. A question: can you wear slick tyres in USA roads?? I guess you can't, but you guys have big balls!!! Here you wouldn't run even a mile. Ah fantastic video, congrats to the camera man
Very nice Vid, makes me want to go out and ride right now! I think the Blue R1 was the best style, but then again it did look most like mine. Thx for posting this.
Nice stuff, makes me want to ride! You might whip up some sort of universal camera mount that would clamp to a fork leg and provide a ground-level-looking-up view of the riders as they carve the Snake.
nice bike nice vid.......good riding.........some of those R1`s sounded great.....all of em sounded great.......Oh yea, there is a ZX out there! good eye @ Neotheone2! Kawi owner here! Just gotta respectthose R1`s.....real riders know what I mean!
@ablacklakeawhitelake ok now you make sense. My fave at the moment for the liter bikes is the ZX. The competition in the liter class is so close that rider skill is going to make the difference every time. An R1 will dominate the BMW if the R1 rider has more skill. Thanks for taking the time to explain yourself, I was worried I missed a major design detail about the crankshaft. Also consider that the R1 style crank is used in racing where there rpm's are still high. cheers.
@Adeysworld Nope Cross-Plane was already known to Honda and the others in the Nineties. The Bimota YB8 was one of the first street bikes to use Cross-PLane, back in 1990 (altough you had to pay a another bike to have this).
@viasevenvai Hi. That shows the difference between US and Europe, because here (in Spain in particular) the R1 is the least sold SBK with difference. This bikes are decreasing ist sales due to speed and emission regulations, so the target is very specialised and has moved to BMW and Kawa, and Honda always has its own market. This is the kind of engine that riders here expect on a VFR800, not in a R1. The 270º crankshaft needs heavier counterbalance axis, doesn´t that have influence on rpm?
Oh ok, my bad :) I never ran track tires on my bike.. I know that they are very sticky, but isn´t this grippy condition only there when the tire is at the right temperature? (which should be quite high on a track tire i guess, and the "running-warm-time" is relatively long compared to a street tire..)
@jng1226 Thanks for clearing that up. Makes one wonder why they don't come factory fitted like that, since it's all advantages... Personally, I'm not a big fan of the cross-plane engine sound the newer R1's produce. I've got an R6 with an Akrapovic megaphone exhaust, I'm more into that kind of sound. But hey, everyone has his rights to their own taste eh :)
@Darkgotrunks Yes, less top end power for a better middle range, but not more torque than any other 1000. The torque is proportional to the displacement. By "better" I mean a middle range where the torque is at its best for a wider gap of rpm, so it´s easier to deal with. I think they did this thinking about a user who will ride on open roads rather than on the track. An average rider (like me) would do better on Mulholland with an R1 than with an S1000RR, but a good rider would pick the BMW.
Ive learned alot just from reading the comments, i am a motorcycle fanatic but have not had the sufficient funds to get myself a nice bike yet, but a quick question, you guys were speaking about these R1's sacrificing top end power for mid range power? so in essence more of a track back then a drag bike? and i also read that its got less torque then the 1198 due to it being a 1000cc but does it have more torque then the average 1000??? Thanks, Original/Dark
Welcome on youtube where everyone is the best driver in the world... just let these guys ride the way they want to...
love the cross plane i4... sounds like a mini v8.
Sound good, but I cannot lap a cross plane liter bike as fast as a standard platform. The way the engine braking and power is applied is just detrimental to my particular cornering style and I could never field a cross plane R1 during race season. It may sound strange to some, but the power pulses are just not conducive to my riding style.
@@kennethpowers8995 🤡
@@kennethpowers8995 wtf are you yapping
@@velhonen Always get better lap times on a Kawi or Suzuki than an R1. Is that more conducive to your limited understanding of the sport?
beautiful timeless design, the best bike engine sound this combination is like a wet dream
i love the sound of a r1 soo much! #eargasm
I love the how you started this video off.. The sound off in the distance, the roar of the engines.. It was suspenseful... GREAT footage as usual! You put this together really nicely! Thank you for your time and energy! My friends and I love watching them.. Everyone looked great! EVEN the DRZ! The helicopter was very cool.... I was not distracted! lol....
The Cross-Plan is definitely one of the best soundtracks you’ll hear on a bike 🥰
i have to say, the ducati v2 sound and this crossplane turbine/thunder sound combined with the beastly look of the headlights and the R1 in general are the most sexiest things you can get out there!
The sound of those cross-plane engines are growing on me! I like the "muscle" sound of the ducati V-twin, but also like the high RPM scream of the traditional Japanese flat-plane engines. This cross-plane design seems to have both characteristics. She still screams when she gets up there.
its fun to watch all the different riding styles and how some work better than others. i would love to have a road like this where I live. nothing we have even comes close to this place!
@1:51 damn exhaust blew that lil drone outta whack lmaoo
@Thomazz46 I just bought a Crossplane R1, actually in part because of Adey's videos. I also got the Graves low-mount full exhaust for 2 main reasons: 1) the stainless steel version drops 15 pounds of weight, centralizes the mass and moves the center of gravity lower for better handling (see any Buell or the Ducati 1199) and 2) It is one of the BEST sounding internal combustion motors I have ever heard with this exhaust. I've never heard any undertail exhaust sound like this.
They sound soooo amazing!
That blue R1.... gorgeous
Some of those cross plane R1s look very planted and stable mid turn. Judging by the sound of the non cross plane bikes, the new R1's engine helps compliment a calm chasis as opposed to the conventional inline fours. Sorry, I'm rambling on my observations. Great video!!!
Ahhhh..I remember this day! We were the only guys out riding that morning lol.
This was before 215Crew got his leathers too. I needed this vid! Thanks Ken!
Now we just need 4-cyl CARS with crossplane cranks. I'd LOVE a 2.5-ish liter crossplane inline-4 to go in a project car.
I'd totally rock a four-cylinder if it sounded like this!
If you take these and cut the speed in half and the pitch down 25%, I think it'd be about what you'd hear.
People put bike engines in cars lol
@Wopadas The 2009-CURRENT R1 is the first production motorcycle to have a Cross-Plane crankshaft.
Crossplane technology, first pioneered in MotoGP racing with the M1, puts each piston 90° from the next, with an uneven firing interval of 270°- 180°- 90°- 180°. The result is like having two engines in one: the low-rpm torquey feel of a twin with the raw, high-rpm power of an inline four. Previous model R1's were inline fours.
I'm not really into the R1 look but the sound of the 09+.. DAMN, love it!
I watch this video over and over again and I still enjoy it. Keep it up rnickey!!!!!!!!!
Just love the way the headlights blinks as they pass by the camera
Wow i love your videos!
And i am impressed with the riders there. Wearing full gear, driving a good line and stuff, not bad.
@FruittisMaris Thanks! We did have a GoPro on the helicopter but it didn't come out great. If I had anything worthwhile I would have added it to this video
Absolutely excellent vids. Every single one I've seen was well worth watching.
the cross plane r1 is thee best sounding bike when it comes to actual everyday riding rev range sound
I'd choose an R1 over the Suzuki just for the sound alone. No other bike out there sounds like this. It's in a whole other league.
@The848evo The suits with the logo on the hump are older Laguna Seca models that are not sold in stores anymore. The red suit like mine in the video is the current Laguna Seca model.
@viasevenvai Chill, the crankshaft IS in fact out of balance ON PORPOUSE. This is something that´s been done in some bikes since years. In the 90´s Doohan´s nsr500 had the four combustions of the cilinders grouped in a few degrees, so the engine wasn´t so violent cause there was a bigger gap of time where the engine didn´t send power to the backwheel, making it similar to a V2 or a big single. It´s necessary to compensate the effects of this on the crankshaf with couterweights and balance axis.
@derberlinersmurf and @ExtremeDeathman I know the crossplane tech is old, it's been used by many in MotoGP. That is why Rossi suggested Yamaha to use it when he crossed over. Because of it's success for others like Honda. But it's Yamaha's claim not mine that the R1 is the first production inline 4 to have this tech. I'm sure they didn't forget about their TRX850 which is a twin.
mean looking R1s at the end. And glad nobody fell off - a good show!! Thanks for uploading
Damn those R1s are great looking. The lights are especially cool.
@roossi the one you hear is a ZX10 in the vid. if you mean newer vs old, it's because of the "big bang" motor or crossplane motor they came out with in 09 i believe. not to mention the firing order and timing.
Those black R1's sound crazy! I've never heard a bike that sounded like a muscle car! Nuts. Great stuff! The HD GoPro on that heli would look good.
Wow, standing in a public street with a camera? Thats what I call dedication.
51 people actually have a good understanding of body positioning :)
HAHAHAHA I was wondering when someone was going to say that! most of the riders in this video were riding very crossed! I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who noticed it.
The guy on the all blue R1 is pretty good though.
The video is about the sound, though...
Petar Boshnakov who cares,they're just out to have fun
As long as you lean correct, it doesn't matter if you are off the bike with your body positioning
All of them are literally just reaching for the ground.
I agree, cant believe they dont tip over by going that slow (most of em)
The group has disbanded:( Only a few of us still come out to this road.
This is one of my favorite motorcycle videos on youtube...Cross-Plane R1 FTW!
You sir, are a genius with the camera... keep it up - Peace and respect from Norway
@blackedout650 Ha no we didn't buy in bulk. We should be sponsored by them by now tho;)
In response to your question about Dainese to Astars. My previous suit was Astars MX-1 which is direct competitor to my Dainese Laguna Seca suit. The Dainese suit is lighter and the leather has a more supple feel to it. I felt like there was no break-in period with my Dainese suit. Besides, Dainese has a more subtle cleaner look to it. Astars is kinda cartoony with all the plastic armor every where. My .02
Love watching your video's man, could watch them all day :)
@1956Simbo Because of ego...it is easier to hate than give praise. Takes a good person to do as you did. Thank you...may other follow your lead.
Some of them looks really funny with their position, for example, red leather guy.
The blue/white Fiat R1, black Dainese rider's BP needs the most work. The red leather guy was actually spot on with the BP.
khyoon14 the one at 2:04 and 3:13 has definetly the best bodyposition in this video, the rest needs work, you're right
Andrew on the Husky Red leather guy is Adeysworld, arguably the best surfer on these waves, brah.
Andrew on the Husky yea the guy in the red is Adeysworld he's fucking tall as hell
*****
Like 6' 3" or something lol. Most of these bikes were designed by guys around 5' 3" haha
That supermoto is hauling ass around that corner and it looked like he wasnt even trying! :D great vid love all the bikes good riders too.
Oh yeah! There's some awesome sounding bikes there... I would sit on that corner and watch all day... but then I'd be disappointed I didn't ride all day. Haha
The stubby exhaust on the R1 looks pretty good! Damn those crossplane crank R1's sound good!
Was a pleasure to watch. I love your bikes.
Given that 4-cyls can be put into cross-plane and firing close cylinder arrangement, I wonder about changing the firing order on a 5 cylinder. 1,1,1-2,1,1-2, or take the 5-cyl crank and making the middle three journals on one plane, and the outer two journals on another... We get a growl on a 4-cylinder, so a 5-cylinder must do something similar.
they all sound nice. i actually kinda like that throaty tone the r1's have. kinda reminds me a Duc in a way. has a lot to do with the exhaust too. r1+ akrapovic = pure awesome
@viasevenvai The crossplane concept means losing a few hp on the higher sector to have a wider and more powerfull middle sector because that´s where the average rider is at most of the time. The reality is that the average rider wont go for an R1, he´ll go for an FZ1, and on the other hand it´s lost 20 hp to the S1000RR and 15hp to the ZX-10 because it can´t rev up so fast and high due to internal balance and doesn´t have the torque on the middle sector of an 1198 because it has 200cc less.
@apontazacpa Majority of the riders here are on Dunlop Ntec DOT tires. Running track pressures. This day I had Dunlop Q2's on running 31 F 28 R.
I love the look of that flat black and blue one. Exactly how I'd get mine.
So do you really gain such a big benefit out of slicks on the road?
I run Michelin Pilot Power for example. And the great thing about this tire is that it also has a very high grip level, even when its still cold. And as far as I know, slick tires have pretty pour grip levels in cold conditions..?
I hope you get my question Adey :D, my english is a bit rusty, im grom Germany..
Ah, by the way, your a star!! ;)
Those new r1s sound sooooooooo good! and i agree you should definetly get a gopro for that heli.
@ablacklakeawhitelake Sorry if I'm sounding mad but seriously there is no way the crankshaft is "out of balance." Maybe the angles are changed but the proper counter weight is imperative for the spinning assemble to not destroy itself. Imagine what a tire does if it's not balanced. I've driven a car at 60mph with an out of balance tire before (not the wheel, just the tire) and it was brutal. If the crank is spinning at 10,000 rpm there is no way it is out of balance. I believe you misread.
I can literally watch this for days, the yzf-series to me is just the prettiest thing out there.. Along with scarlet johansson ofcourse..
@MetricHotrodsdotcom You have some eye there. CHP can't even clock vehicles in a turn. So how fast was each bike traveling in this vid eagle-eye?
dat supermoto xD
:D
@viasevenvai Don´t worry, I might not be explaining myself properly. Of course the crankshat is balanced by adding counterweights and balance axis, what I´m saying is that this "unnatural" configuration makes the crankshaft heavier, which is worse for revving up fast, but this bigger inertia improves the middle range and makes it an easier engine. The balance axis take power from the crankshaft that otherwise would go to the rear wheel. A 180º crankshat is simpler and lighter, and more agresive
Aw man I just got a chubby haha, damn one of these days I'm gunna trailer the R6 out there. Good riding and awesome filming as always!
The best balance (not perfect though), and the simplest structure for an in-line four is one combustion every 180º. If you go for something else, the crankshaft will suffer bigger torsions that you have to deal with. It´s not better or worse itself, it´s just a design decission. In my area, the proffesional motor publications have compared all SBK´s since this R1 was released and has been placed in the last always, because they´re judged with SBK standards, not because they´ve friendly engines.
@junior12343 For the 09-10 R1's they are using Graves, and Akrapovic. The Kawi ZX10 had the yoshimuras. I'm not sure about the Rossi replica and the moto bike
That supermoto at 1:00 "bye bitches!"
Slicks are only good in hot conditions. Once hot they do feel amazing, but it's not worth the risk on the street when today's street tires are offering grip levels comparable to DOT race tires from 3 years ago.
The guy on the supermoto passed the camera guy and turns around like.."hey you get mahh picture bro??" lol gotta love them supermoto's
I have a Graves shorty on mine too, it's a shame they don't make the 09-14 body anymore. New Gen sucks imo.
I am not too big into bikes so forgive my ignorance, I see the name of the video has cross plane in it..... I assume you are referring to the crank? Do normal R1's have flat plane cranks? The black bike sounds amazing.
Great sounding and looking bikes!
Any R1 after 2009 is crossplane. Any of the ones in the video that have the deep guttural v4 sound are crossplane. The special edition Fiat R1 in the video is a pre-2009 and has traditional firing order and high pitched sounds like a normal I4.
only Yamaha crossplane, nothing else matters
Gotta love that awesome crossplane sound.... deep, mean and menacing.
Nice vid, nice bikes, very nice sound! The r1 crossplane cranks sound very unique. I'd love to hit this road up with my sv... But it would be a day and half of riding just to get there lol. You guys buy all those leathers bulk for a deal or what? Haha. How do the dainese compare to alpinestars? In the market for some soon..
Nice! love the exhaust note! Aftermarker systems sound great guys nice vid!
Which team of motoGP have you escaped from?? That matt R1's with low side exhaust are beatiful!! I love them. A question: can you wear slick tyres in USA roads?? I guess you can't, but you guys have big balls!!! Here you wouldn't run even a mile.
Ah fantastic video, congrats to the camera man
cool video. Man... Those cross plane cranks sound awesome
the black R1 sounds like my VFR!
since i heard cross plane for the 1st time i decided this will be my next bike. it is music to my ears when i ride!
Very nice Vid, makes me want to go out and ride right now! I think the Blue R1 was the best style, but then again it did look most like mine. Thx for posting this.
Nice stuff, makes me want to ride!
You might whip up some sort of universal camera mount that would clamp to a fork leg and provide a ground-level-looking-up view of the riders as they carve the Snake.
@malibubeachboy LOL Is this going on this sunday? The R1 is in the shop, but I'll bring out the SMR to film the challenge.
@Fear1908 You're talking to people who can't see past their runny nose. Glad you were gracious enough to point out the obvious. Cheers mate
.....And all the gixxer boys pissed there pants when they heard the thunder....
thunder lol more like a bunch of drunk dudes farting in tin cans
a pack of gixxers sound like an angry swarm of hornets
@@NoStress90s Flatplane inline 4 bikes sound like shit compared to crossplane and v4.
Why do some of those R1's have side exhausts? I'm confused
Amazing bikes though - i'm guessing one of them was adey?
nice video, very nice camera man and AWESOME bikes!
were the exhaust on those r1 removed? i have never liked the new r1s, but im definately liking this look
@MrPhipper We were experimenting with a birds-eye view. Didn't work out...wasn't high enough.
Man I love the sound of those R1's!
Love the crossplane, they remind me of small displacement V8's in terms of sound!
nice bike nice vid.......good riding.........some of those R1`s sounded great.....all of em sounded great.......Oh yea, there is a ZX out there! good eye @ Neotheone2! Kawi owner here! Just gotta respectthose R1`s.....real riders know what I mean!
@ablacklakeawhitelake ok now you make sense. My fave at the moment for the liter bikes is the ZX. The competition in the liter class is so close that rider skill is going to make the difference every time. An R1 will dominate the BMW if the R1 rider has more skill. Thanks for taking the time to explain yourself, I was worried I missed a major design detail about the crankshaft. Also consider that the R1 style crank is used in racing where there rpm's are still high. cheers.
@fastkid392 Yes it is... I like to listen to some tunes as I ride... Do you pause the video and zoom in?? lol
@Adeysworld
Nope Cross-Plane was already known to Honda and the others in the Nineties. The Bimota YB8 was one of the first street bikes to use Cross-PLane, back in 1990 (altough you had to pay a another bike to have this).
@aracaen If you go to about 58 seconds in there's a guy tailing them on what looks like a DR-Z400SM. I maybe wrong but that's the dirt bike noise.
Music to my ears....Bravo!!!
@viasevenvai Hi. That shows the difference between US and Europe, because here (in Spain in particular) the R1 is the least sold SBK with difference. This bikes are decreasing ist sales due to speed and emission regulations, so the target is very specialised and has moved to BMW and Kawa, and Honda always has its own market. This is the kind of engine that riders here expect on a VFR800, not in a R1. The 270º crankshaft needs heavier counterbalance axis, doesn´t that have influence on rpm?
Oh ok, my bad :)
I never ran track tires on my bike.. I know that they are very sticky, but isn´t this grippy condition only there when the tire is at the right temperature? (which should be quite high on a track tire i guess, and the "running-warm-time" is relatively long compared to a street tire..)
@jng1226 Thanks for clearing that up. Makes one wonder why they don't come factory fitted like that, since it's all advantages... Personally, I'm not a big fan of the cross-plane engine sound the newer R1's produce. I've got an R6 with an Akrapovic megaphone exhaust, I'm more into that kind of sound. But hey, everyone has his rights to their own taste eh :)
Awesome stuff! All those R1's are menacing!
@Darkgotrunks Yes, less top end power for a better middle range, but not more torque than any other 1000. The torque is proportional to the displacement. By "better" I mean a middle range where the torque is at its best for a wider gap of rpm, so it´s easier to deal with. I think they did this thinking about a user who will ride on open roads rather than on the track. An average rider (like me) would do better on Mulholland with an R1 than with an S1000RR, but a good rider would pick the BMW.
these bikes have such a unique sound
sounds a bit like a mix of a sv1000 and a 4stroke dirtbike
Ive learned alot just from reading the comments, i am a motorcycle fanatic but have not had the sufficient funds to get myself a nice bike yet, but a quick question, you guys were speaking about these R1's sacrificing top end power for mid range power? so in essence more of a track back then a drag bike? and i also read that its got less torque then the 1198 due to it being a 1000cc but does it have more torque then the average 1000???
Thanks, Original/Dark
No that was Max's bike. I don't run track tires on the street(normally).
@Adeysworld Crossplane technology is much older. The TRX850 already had that technology long before the M1