My Collection: WWII Artillery Shell Identification
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- Here I explain how I determined that the artillery shells I have been finding in the river are not dangerous.
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Your explanation of gun vs weapon was very similar to a definition I read a while back. Always something new for me to learn! Thanks, Beau.
Great video!! Its the whole reason I metal detect. Finding silver, gold, rare coins and rings are the little surprises we get far and few between. When we do find them its a push to keep digging. But the research and history of relics we find are very special to each of us. My favorites are finding old buckles,tokens and items from My grandmother and grandfathers era.(1920s, through WWII). They were in their late 20s by the end of the war. GL/HH
My Grandfather was a tanker in the army, he lost a brother in the Africa campaign.
My son and I love your videos! Thank you for sharing your knowledge, and making history interesting to him!! Happy Hunting and we're looking forward to watching more!
After watching everything you have posted I must say . You know your relics and the reasearch you do showes in your videos ! Great info and video thanks for sharing
Your understanding of "gun" vs "rifle" is exactly correct. cf. "gunner" vs "rifleman".
Good video. I grew up in the military. In Germany circa 1960, there was still a lot of stuff lying around. For a kid it was cool...but...potentially dangerous. The Army required us kids to attend programs at school which were very similar to your video. Of course they didn't want us touching ANYTHING, regardless of what we knew. I collected a bunch of neat stuff I found out in the woods or snooping around places we weren't supposed to be. I had a duffle bag full of neat relics. When we moved they mysteriously didn't arrive at our new posting. Dad of course only let me keep the non dangerous stuff like helmets, ammo pouches etc. Found a few guns and the hilt half of a sword(probably WWI). The guns got tossed onto a large pile of similar stuff which was in a fenced off area on base...got to keep the sword and knives though. Wish I still had all that stuff........I did all the work and likely ended up providing someone else with a neat collection.
Beau, you would have gone nuts back then with a detector! We lived near Karlsruhe, which was near the Siegfried fortification line that ran along the French border. Karlsruhe was still rebuilding and there was even an area of town where there were streets in block grids with the lots just piles of rubble. Lots of bunkers around, some intact, some blown. Rusted out tanks in fields littered with "dragon's teeth tank traps. A grass airstrip with a fenced off area containing wrecked Nazi aircraft. Bomb craters in the woods. Also in some woods near the village along an old logging road were about 20 wrecked and burnt out vehicles off to the side...mostly looked like trucks and such, but a couple half-tracks too. I still love historical stuff...one of the main reason I enjoy your vids so much. Hope you are able to get out and find a bunch more this year! Thanks!
6 years post. Beau got fur.
Watching this now... Boy did you change 😂
Great educational vid Beau. Just a couple of small points that may help some others. As a general rule, you can tell the difference between a base fuse and a trace element by size. If its bigger or equal to a quarter in size, it's usually a base fuse. Smaller than a quarter it's usually a trace element. A handy reference that's usually right.
It's also worth noting that you cannot rely on driving band nomenclature to positively ID a munition, especially if its been fired as that nomenclature will be erased. Carrying a small ruler or calipers will definitely help as will extensive research before you go out, especially if you're chasing old ordnance.
Not meaning to tread on your toes mate, just trying to help a little!
Your hair flow is incredible!
Some artillery guns did not have a rifled barrel so the assumption of it having squished lines in it yes means it is fired but with a smooth plate doesn't mean it has not been fired.
Thanks Beau!
Great video as always Beau. GL&HH
Beau once again great video. I know once we start getting some warmer weather here in MD we will be seeing more videos. Have to say and can only assume its because of the cold weather we have had, you have the Jeremiah Johnson look going on. Some day you will have to come down to the easternshore of MD and hit some of the old sea captain sites we have.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge about these great pieces of history. I collect Shells from the Civil War and WWII and am not lucky enough to live any where that I can go find them in the ground myself. You are so lucky to have the opportunity to do that and I am glad you are sharing your finds and knowledge with us. I immediately paused this video and went to find the Artillery manual you showed. That is going to be a very useful read for.me. Keep up the good work and thank you again.
Great video Beau! Some great usefull information!
Very interesting, as usual, Beau.
Looking, looking, waiting waiting! Where oh where is your next video Beau? Patience is not my strongest point lol.
Nice video. Thank you for your service.
Love the lesson on the shells Beau! Thank you buddy...
I love your videos ! And mannn your collection its massive !
Watching in 2020!
I couldn't find anything on the website but thank you so much for giving me the website
I'm a young gunner starting my career and your right.... gunners work on the howitzers and guns.
Beau, thanks for another great video!
I must say - your videos are coming few and far between! Get the coil to the soil
I hope all is well.
Hey Beau! Pretty Cool! I never knew!Thanks for the video!
Well said Beau. I always look forward to your videos.
Bryan, Florida
Will aka Terminal 99 has a top to the shell you traded for in really nice condition he just got in his last yard sale video.
Cool! I have to get that field manual... (Nice beard by the way!)
great information beau & thank you for your service.
Thank you for the information. Now I can wow my military son-in-law. I have seen the military arms manual at flea markets before. I think I'll pick one up.
Hey Beau!! I love all the videos I think I have watched every single one of yours and noggins.... I was looking in the back ground on this video and was wondering if you had a video of all your findings that I might have missed.... I would love to see the room your in with all your finds in place....I got my AT Pro in th mail last week so I hope to have a room like this one day hahaha... Thanks again man and God Bless....
Great information bud. Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge with us all...DD.
My great grandpa swiped a couple large shells from a french warship back during ww1.
Interesting. You should since you have the resources do one on Civil war period shells. Solid shot vs fused or something. Thanks for the info! Time to hunt!
This is my Rifle, this is my gun. This is for shooting, this is for fun....Well you know the rest.
The difference between a Rifle and a Gun is the caliber. Generally from what I have seen 20 mm and larger are called Guns and anything hand held is a rifle.
If I remember my training, the brass band on the shot is called an Ogee.
Thanks great info. I usually walk away muy rapido!
Beau, you are the man. If you ever come up to Pennsylvania, I have some colonial era spots you could detect. Be well. -Bob
Well that's pretty darn close to the finest state in the Union. We have some original William Penn land grant acreage here in Chester County that may interest you.
Oh cool, I would love to learn from the best. Drop me a line if you venture this way sometime. I always try to make it out to Antietam/South Mountain in the summertime.
"The problem is that whoever copied this manual... must have been on crack." I died.
I was reminded of something I heard a while back when you said about the emphasis on not referring to rifles as guns... Supposedly it's a military thing, although I have no idea what branch, or even if Canadian or US (or both/neither)... but anyway, it was a silly little verse... "This is my rifle (holding it up); This is my gun (pointing to male anatomy). This one's for shooting (holding up rifle); This one's for fun (pointing to the body part)." But having heard that up here in Canada, & you talking about how in the US military they emphasis calling a rifle a rifle, it makes me wonder how widespread that concern is. Like if it's just a N.Am. thing, or do European military have that same emphasis too, or further abroad into other cultures like Asian or African militaries... Anyway, just odd musings thanks to what you said in the video...
Thanks for sharing your videos & your insights. I always learn stuff from watching your channel!
I love those made in America model 1907 fuzed artillery shells. I have been looking for a mint version, all mine are in relic condition
Thank you that was good.
Great video as usual. "Gun" implies it is served by a crew. Ie tank gun. Where as rifle or weapon implies an individually served piece of armament. Well that's what I was told in the Army anyway.
I guess we kinda did. It was in an almost third person tense. Like Pvt. so on so go man the gun.
Great video, very interesting! Thanks Beau.
Great vid Beau, very informative...may come in hand one day! Thanks for sharing your finds and knowledge!! HH
Nice,
Cool video
I can't see how you have dug over 60000 bullets
Unbelievable
watch the rest of his videos lol bullets and silver coins everywhere lol!!
Very informative Beau, and thanks for sharing, Have you ever done any magnet fishing while on your river adventures?? The BTY & HH
I thank you so much for you explaining this to us. That is some great information and I sure to appreciate it.
very informative, look forward to the next vid
Great video
great video beau they look cool cleaned up :-)
Excellent information, man! Thanks for this vid.
Neat on the nose cone hole and water removal then hot wax...preservation.
Very interesting video!!!!
Thanks
nice video thank you for showing this and also thank you for your service
Great video, very informative!
Thanks!
Good video thank you.
Nice.
are these self contained rounds that have to be loaded separately from the charge? Or have they been pulled from a shell and if so why? Oh one last thing how did they end up in a river?
Tune in next time as he discovers that occasional "mistake" in army training manuals.
You remind me some how of that Foote guy
very interesting
Nicely done and informative. Can you tell me where I might find info on German rounds? I have a German 200mm flak round (projectile only) and would like to know more about it. That fact that I have every reason to believe it is live gives me every reason to not screw with it. I trust its stability about as far as I can throw it - and I don't think I'd want to even do that!
***** OMG, I'm sorry, it's 20 (twenty!) mm! Shall we try this again?
***** It just has the screw-in plug in the base, I've had no intentions of trying to take it out.
***** That's exactly what concerns me, so what to do with it? It's a WWII souvenier my dad brought back from the war, so I don't want to lose it. Is there a way to find someone that will demil it without confiscating it?
Great video... BUT can you touch up on what to do if you do find a fused or H.E. shell or cannon ball? I guess if you're lucky enough that the shovel doesn't set it off when you're digging it, what should you do then? Who do you call, and are there any legal ramifications for the finder?
wow hahah mr mountain man
thanks for the information, you made id possible.
Cool vid lots of info. Any theories about why there is so many unfired stuff lying around? It is understandable with the civil war stuff but how about the ww2 stuff?
awesome
lol u look like charles manson :)
I was about to comment, Where are the Cult Ladies??
Hey Beau I see your letting your hair and beard grow out I thought I looked rough your getting there lol lol
you really know your stuff!!!!! I just bought an at pro...can you please tell me what a gold coin shows up as, on the numbers??
In most armed forces the term "gun" is incorrect when referring to small arms; in military parlance, the word "gun" refers to an artillery piece or crew-served machine gun. Furthermore, in many works of fiction a rifle refers to any weapon that has a stock and is shouldered before firing, even if the weapon is not rifled or does not fire solid projectiles (e.g. a "laser rifle"). Form WIKI........
***** lmao.... I am a retired Marine and I still call mine a gun sometimes... I just don't make my self do push ups now...
just fond you page and subbed.. awsome finds in your videos WOW.. Do you sell and of the shells you find?? I would be interested
Mountain man Beau.
Cool video as always and I'm lovin' the caveman look :P
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nope its not i think its worse
***** I was thinking you look more like those Calvary soldier guys. All you need is a uniform and a horse. I was wondering if you are involved with those civil war re enactment groups?
***** Yeah sorry looking a little grizzly adams
There's one thing I don't really understand, if the shells you find haven't been fired, how come you find them like that out in the nature and in streams? Have they been dumped for some reason or what?
The only thing I'm wondering is why you won't sell me some! I know you have you reasons but I have reasons why I want some lol. Post some more water hunting videos please.
Can you make a video that shows all your Civil War Artillery Shells! :)
Bomb disposal must be the best job in the world....you'll never know if you've had a bad day ;-D
your starting to look like a Mountain man Beau!!
I have a question wheres the rest of the shell???? or is it a load? nice info! thanks HH....GL
how is it you find all these ww2 shells in the US? training exercises??
Who ever copied this must have been of crack, haha love it man, keep up the vids
Hi there, beau. Great video, very informative! However, in a spot difficulty myself identifying a projectile. It's a cylinder shaped shell that is with what I think is a tracer on the base. What is really stumping me is that the top is flat with no sign of anything attaching to it.The rotating band shows it has been fired. I have a little more info but do you have any rough ideas as to what it could be?
***** I realise it's a bit of a long shot. Can do, taken a few pics. Where should I post them?
***** Right, that's them uploaded. Would be great if you could let me know what you think!
I like the new look. Do you like griz?
Lol...Ok. The "griz" reference came from the Jeremiah Johnson movie. Didn't know if you picked up on that.
man can i ever go with ya on some hunts? i can bring my ace 350 lol
I recently bought a Scovill at an auction. It has the mark at the bottom you showed as being fired, but the shrapnel balls are still inside. You can hear them inside and much heavier then one I bought that is empty. The fuse appears to be in good shape also. At the auction I unscrewed the fuse and put it back on. I have found any that still have the shrapnel inside. How do I know this thing isnt live? Ok actually I'm wrong I do not see the marks from rifling its heavy and you can tell the ball shrapnel is inside so is this thing likely live?
I am curious to know the difference between a riffle and a carbine..?
Thanks interesting video... Cheers.
***** Thank you... Mystery for me, now solved... Thanks. :)
grizly adamchigger......
Can you inform measurements of the shell case WW1 - 75mm and 100mm?
Length
Base diameter
Base thickness
HEY MAN IM CAPS LOCKING THIS SO YOU NOTICE IT I NOTICED IN ONE VIDEO WHERE YOU WHERE WIPEING OFF WHAT YOU CALLED MAGNETIC ROCKS OFF THE END OF YOUR PICK. SOMETIMES ITS NOT ROCKS YOU FINDING ITS METEORITES. SO WATCH SOME VIDEOS ON YOUR TUBE ABOUT THEM SO YOU CAN LERN UP ON THEM THERE WORTH ALOT OF MONEY SO YOU KNOW. THERE USUALY BLACK AND CAN BE SCARDERD IN PEAICES. JUST SOME TIPS FOR YAS MAN HAVE A GREAT DAY AND GOOD LUCK!!
I found the heads from some artillery rounds from around WW2 and the bands have rifling marks. They are fired and safe to handle?
Any theories as to why these were dumped in a river?
Do you think they were dumped in with casings that somehow corroded away or were they just dumped as projectiles?
Good hunting! :)
This is something I can answer! As a general rule, life expired, damaged or obsolete ammunition is destroyed by the services. Depending on the type of ammo this can happen a number of ways. HE ammunition is usually disposed of explosively, WP/smoke is also detonated. Solid shot such as the ones in this vid are usually just dumped because they pose no danger. Given that a lot of this ammunition that you're finding was fixed (with case attached) the usual procedure would be to pull the projectile, collect and burn the propellant, dump the solid shot projectile, unscrew the primer from the case and dispose of that by burning. The case was probably then recycled. Some primers are pressed rather than screwed in which case the whole case would be burned to 'cook off' the primer. Hope that helps.
Yes Beau. I spent 21 years as a Royal Australian Engineer, with the last 10 years as an EOD Technician. Now I've left the service, I work as a Project Manager for a lands remediation company, clearing this type of stuff from ex military land. If you want a technical reference, TM 9-1300-277 is good, specifically Chapter 6. It has been updated to reflect modern automation but the procedure hasn't changed, just the methodology. Here is a link
www.liberatedmanuals.com/TM-9-1300-277.pdf
Another handy reference for ID purposes is TM 9-1909 Ammo Inspectors guide.
Cheers
Are you still not interested in selling any of the shells? Also, I never knew you were in the military, what branch were you in?
I have a 1943 40mm M81-A1 that my grandfather brought back. the issue I am finding is that I can't match what it looks like to what they are showing in the manual. So I am completely lost. Any ideas would be amazing. Thanks!
I'm going to South Carolina soon, and I was wondering if there are any good spots there for finding Civil War relics. I'm not asking for your spots if you have any there, but just in general if it's a good place for finding relics.
***** Thanks for taking the time to answer...I'm actually going to be right on the coast so I'm very excited to see what I can find.
***** Thanks!
What is the heads-up SMI 937 stand for?
Why were all those shells just dumped there unfired?
I have a shell I'm trying to figure out what kind what yearish and all that I have pics if interested!