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Kang is here to setup the fantastic 4 as we can't fully vanquish Kang without them so by time we get the avengers event where they fight Kang for the last time we will have established the mutants celestial and the living tribunal in all the movies leading to it so I suspect like Brolin, majors will be in the MCU for a good decade. I also assume now that MCU has almost every single IP rights back, they will give us even more of what we want in future movies.
Bro here’s my theory about miss minute: Miss minutes is actually Ravana renslayer.. in comics she was kang’s girlfriend and (as she cannot live forever), so in MCU kang transferred her conscious into miss minutes.. I am telling this because revona Didn’t turn against TVA or “the man in charge” even after knowing that she and every TVA agent is a variant, that’s how kang know she will understands him and will not betray him. Also kang says “she still calling me that” after Loki and Sylvie ask him if he is who he remains.. that means kang is referring to miss minutes as if he knows her in person/ human form and they been together for long time/ or in infinite realities, so he finds it adorable that revona still calls him he who remains (the man in charge) after all this time. Also miss minutes was responding to non verbal cues of revona in previous episode when sylvie was asking about TVA’s history. The files miss minutes have given to revona maybe relating to how kang’s made her into miss minutes or about her destiny (going to find if free will exists) and might have asked her to go to a specific reality where he really exists/ hiding
Kang pruned mostly Lokis out of the timeline because he knew that they were most likely to find him beyond the end of time. Remember that he said he knew everything that Loki and sylvie would do. That means that he lived through every attempt on his life, kind of like Dr. Strange did when he was checking the possibilities on titan. That is also what he meant by threshold, because that version of him never lived beyond that moment in the other trials. He’s stuck in a long loop, beginning to end of the universe and god knows for how many times. That is enough to turn anyone into a lunatic.
If you go back in time and change things, that creates a branch reality where yours you came from still exists if you can get back to that moment you left in precision. But it creates a new future if you stay in the past you changed. This is why multiversial theory exists. Going back in your own past will change the future of a timeliness you've never been apart of. But it also will change the future(if already written) in the version you came from. Time travel and the multiverse is easy to grasp but hard to articulate with limited vocabulary of self or peers. Rocket science is easy to a rocket scientist but rocket science to a cashier at the Gap is magic. All in all this a very smart move for the MCU as they can still produce new comic stories that exist in their own universes and now the MCU universe becomes its own timeliness that sits and fits in well with what the comics already do with differing stories derived from different universes. It's why in the very beginning they declared that our MCU earth was not 616 but another version. Its the most genius way to be able to do whatever with your MCU characters now and going future including newly acquired properties without confusing the actual die hard fan base. While also setting their own rules for MCU storytelling where we simply won't be able to easily theory craft from. It's simply a genius move. "Let's set it up where we can continue to produce amazing comics, tell stories but be able to canonly differentiate the movies from the literature now. Also a good way to break ties with Sony over Spiderman until they can aquire the last bit of rights away and bring it home to Marvel once again after 20 plus years. What a dodgy move to play on Sony lmao. Sony relies on Spiderman profits so much they might as well sell them to Disney and then find new IT'S, better writers and studio heads that allow more creativity. Anyway, thats my rant. Great season of Loki and cannot wait for the What If series. Black panther in space is gonna be the most fire episode, watch.
@@jamssy3409 conversely, you can be appreciative while not being shocked due to a concept you've already known being done in a great way. To those of us who've expanded our horizons, what Marvel's doing is not particularly new, it just happens to be done in a way we can all appreciate
It’s crazy that kang has been Orchestrating and manipulating every event in the timeline in the MCU everything was meant to happen because Khan was controlling everything from the beginning
The reason Kang's acting over the top is that he is millions of years old and the human mind isn't designed to function that long. Kang is literally crazy at this point.
This is what makes the actor so amazing, because the next time we see him... He'll be a lot more egotistical and imposing.. We saw a very humble version
@@PlayaP69 Nae, his performance was great don't get me wrong, but being able to perform multiple iterations of the same person to a high degree among a variety of projects is the pinnacle of acting ability
Something I just noticed…During Kang’s speech he says it can go one of two ways and specifically mentions plunging her blade in his chest…which we know is what happened. Not the head or the neck or the gut. Also when he takes off his time twister he slides it very carefully across his desk to a specific spot…a spot where Sylvie will be able to reach it so she can expel Loki and kill Kang. It’s like poetry it rhymes.
@@fortunetaco4585 he definitely knew, why else would he tell them they crossed the threshold and doesnt know what would happen? He was bulletining, either choice they made he was going to be happy cause he was going to come back if killed and he was gonna ride off in the sunset if they didn't kill him
This version of Kang was probably the most benevolent. I’m stoked to see him cranked to 11. He did a very very good job. Marvel kills it with their casting.
Jonathan Majors is going to make an amazing and terrifying Kang. As usual Marvel killed it with this casting and it has me very hyped for the future of the MCU. Loki was completely terrified at the end of the episode.
@@bbd1603 I don't understand shit. Thanos didn't win in that timeline because Sylvie killed this Kang? So this storyline took place before Infinity War? Right after the New York battle?
Picture the sacred timeline as Kang's fixed storyline. Although the sacred timeline encompassed other timelines woven together like a rope, the only narrative permitted by Kang was the narrative of the current MCU as we know it. This is why variants within other timelines were pruned by the TVA, to ensure that the narrative continued and always led to Kang's desired outcome. Hope this makes sense!
I would love to know how the marvel phases and storyline is created. Maybe eventually they will do a behind the scenes movie of the creation of all the movies. Has to be planned several years ahead.
@@cclark3 I think they did fall in love, and that's why Sylvia stayed her sword when Loki appeared in front of Kang and then pushed him through the "door" to get him out of the way so she could finish the job instead of killing him.
I just remember after end game everyone thought the next big bad was finna be galactus. Galactus is just a forgotten memory after they said that Loki was finna have a big role in the mcu when it was about time
Thanos dies Galactus - Everyone think I’m going to be there next. Just waiting for marvel to reply. “Reveals Loki is going to impact” Galactus- I’m fine they just introducing the multiverse so I can come in. Still waiting for that reply. “Loki episode 6 comes out” Galactus - WHAT THE F***
The one thing I've learned from this show: You can't trust Marvel trailers! They put so many alternate shots into the trailers that don't match up with the actual scenes in the shows that it's like _they're_ from an alternate reality.
Why I stopped watching Trailers for shows/movies more than a decade ago. Even in theatres I'll be on my phone through the previews till my movie starts - I want to go into everything with a clear mind, no biases/expectations
Did anyone else notice that while Loki is running through the archives, his movements aren't really fluid like he doesn't appear from behind the next shelf exactly when he should if it was one fluid motion.. I think that part symbolizes him running through the TVA while many different branches are being created, finally landing him in the one where Mobius doesn't know him
That's the first thing I noticed when I watched the episode, because I'm spoiled by film making usually a camera passing through objects hide hidden cuts and I noticed every time it passed a bookshelf, Lokis movement changed. One he was walking, then running, then walking confused, then walking again
What if Sylvie and Loki's nexus event in Lamentis was actually "dying" in the apocalypse? If they died, no one would get to Immortus (He who remained) and kill him and the Multiversal War could not have happened, so this means that it was all supposed to happen.
but then they would've detected after their deaths and i know they could've detected it afetr their deaths and jsut got to them a bit earlier in time to save them, but the way it was portrait it looked like it was the romance between them that caused the branch
Honestly when I watched the episode and saw the 2 options presented, I knew this was going to be REALLY HARD. Option 1: Loki and Sylvie become the new rulers of TVA. This sounds terrible because the TVA goes against the principles of free will. Avengers Loki would have loved it but our current Loki has evolved so much past the point that he realizes that he can't do it. It would continue his loop, he gets to be 'king of all time' but at the expense of everyone's happiness and free will. Sylvie was a fine example of this where her entire life was ruined by the TVA just because she existed. Option 2: Kill Kang and let chaos go crazy which would unlock 'worse Kangs'. Sylvie chooses this because she was so driven by revenge and in a sense continues her Loki loop. Our Loki has surpassed himself as he has seen that if he continues his loop, it would only bring suffering, isolation and unhappiness, and he tries to stop Sylvie from her loop but fails. He lived that life before and didn't want Sylvie to go down the path he did, but she kind of 'becomes him' enacting revenge on Kang. And what a brilliant line he says 'I just want you to be ok' because he can see his former self in her and hopes that with his love, she wouldn't go to the dark side. Unfortunately, Syvlie pushes him away because she's like 'screw love, I just want my revenge'. Love wasn't her priority, not at this time. Love to her was simply a distraction. Loki knows that both options are terrible but was trying to have a discussion with Sylvie to see if he could find a 'best of both worlds answer' but in her emotionally charged state, option 2 was obviously the most attractive to her but after she kills Kang, she realizes the anticlimax. That in her selfishness, she has unleashed hell upon the universe. But actually if you think about it, there probably is no middle ground. Kang knows that there is actually only 1 option: letting lose the multiverse. Because he knows that Loki and Sylvie will not pick Option 1. He's actually not worried about dying because he literally thinks he has mastered the past, present and future. He is immortal because he knows there will always be Kangs out there. Maybe initially he thought that having a dictatorship over the entire universe was the way to go, but now that he sees that Loki and Sylvie were able to make it this far and confront him, he sees 'hey, maybe I can get this to work for me. Maybe I don't just get 1 universe to rule, maybe I can rule MULTIPLE universes' and possibly, he already knew that Sylvie would eventually 'kill him' and kick-off his conquest of multiple universes. So in a way, Kang has played Loki and Sylvie. He actually wins despite 'dying'. I think Loki has become so self-aware that he can see that it is a trap that's why he tries to stop Sylvie but alas, she falls for it and now Loki has to think about how to prepare for the 'attack of the Kangs' and now realizes that now that 'worse Kangs' are out there, the whole universe is gonna suck a whole lot more. At first I thought that the TVA would cease to exist without 'good Kang' but it turns out, 'worse Kangs' now run the TVA so the TVA technically still exists. So the question is will we get our Mobius back? Or Loki will have to do the '50 first dates' all over again to get a Mobius to trust him? It seems now with this change, Lokis, like you said, are not a major threat and new Mobius doesn't even recognize a Loki as a Loki, he just asks 'oh what is your position, who are you?' . The show totally looks like it went 'Back to the Future' where Loki is the constant but everything changes around him as time modifies. And yup, this would certainly be a job for Dr Strange and Wanda to fix with Loki possibly helping on the side.
When Kang is shown dead in his chair he is posed like the Lincoln Memorial statue. Right leg stretched out, left leg pulled in, right hand gripping the chair arm, left hand more relaxed. Is this intentional symbolism? Like Lincoln trying to keep the country from dividing, Kang was trying to maintain a united timeline? Or something like that?
Since Silvie was able to bring back old memories by enchanting the TVA agents and now Loki learned how to enchant while fighting Alioth, do you think he will try to enchant Mobius in the next season to help him remember?
“We just crossed… the threshold.” Majors’ expression/tonal change was so clear. He’s a great actor/villain 😈 “And they all lead here… but never further.” Like The Ancient One, not seeing beyond her life, He Who Remains couldn’t see past that moment in “time.” Same thunder? in the backgrounds of those scenes. 🤯 Lokis had the chance to take over, like Dr. Strange, but Sylvie released chaos instead. So Dr. Strange/Spider-Man and friends must correct their mistake.
The one who break the loop is actually loki, he did it by doing something no other loki in existense do, doing something for someone else instead of himself, not sylvie because she did what other loki did betray other and ignoring the consuquence of her action thus trap herself in loki loop, you know do a thing-betray other-lose, thus she actually can kill kang was thanks to loki breaking the loop in the first place
When kang died I thought it was like when the Sorcerer Supreme couldn’t see past her death, thus making me believe that no matter what. You cant look past from when you die
But this also means when Dr. Strange viewed 14 million potential futures to try to beat Thanos... There could have been many more than one. But only one where they won AND Dr. Strange survived.
We will see the impact of this much sooner than 2 years thru the upcoming movies. Spidey and Dr. Strange will definitely touch on the multiverse outbreak.
Whatever this called, I'm just glad. With this kind of budget they could make this in to 2 hours movie, instead we got 5 house of storyline. 2 years seem reasonable compared to movie release schedule.
I think kang was tired of always knowing everything and always keeping order. You can see he’s almost giddy to get to the point where he stops knowing, and he is excited at every little thing that happens after he loses sight. He got to witness a show in those last few minutes of his life by dividing the lokis and leaving it to chance.
However like he said it was only 2 ways it would end, Loki takes his spot or Loki kills and other Kangs Rule so at the end he still knew it was only choices even if he couldn't see which one Loki decided
MCU's chaotic story lines are actually making me question my reality so hard I think I shit my soul out...just when I thought my ongoing existential crisis couldn't get any worse 🤔
@@HammerLeaf you’re right but humans have done pretty well to get this far. even if it is just depicting all of this on tv, we are low-key smart as hell
Did you noticed that the way ' He who remains ' presented the events when he was explaining to Lokis was pretty similar to the way EGO presented his story to Starlord in GOTG Vol 2.
You mean skirting around another purpose, conveniently leaving out key bits of information that would reveal their TRUE motive? Yea. it did feel that way.
Now everything make sense, why Eternals need to intervene, why Wanda and Doctor Strange is together to correct the reality "Nexus being", why Spiderman is in No Way Home , why we have the Jane Foster as the New Thor and the entrance of Fantastic Four, all is now falling to places 😍😍😍
Ya this phase is gonna be massive. Imagine a huge endgame-style battle with all of the parallel universe heroes of the MCU fighting an army of Kangs and brainwashed TVA agents. Gonna be insane.
My thoughts on Loki’s ending: he is in a different universe. In the explanation of He Who Remains we see his variants using those temporal doors to cross over, the same way the TVA does when they hunt down a branched reality. Sylvie pushes Loki through the door, after new branches were formed. He is in the multiverse but at the same point in time, because the multiverse is happening all at once.
I just finished the show and been somewhat obsessed with theorys. Out of everything this random comment makes the most sense hyped for season 2 eventually.
But how TVA could have a multiversal versions when they hunt variants across the multiverse cause Sylvie is Loki an other universe and Sylvie in the show is a variant of that Sylvie?
@@lenakataeva7525 that's not it. up until Sylvie killed Kang, the show "Loki" (and the entire MCU) was in one single universe *the sacred timeline* . Kang explained it, he cut off ONE universe and controls it - The sacred timeline - writing how events should go, and every time it doesn't go how he planned - the TVA (his creation) show up and fix it. Think of it as a tree that wants to grow branches but all the branches are cut off except for one path of how Kang wants the history to unfold. Sylvie is not from another universe, she is from OUR universe (The sacred timeline), she literally IS our Loki. it's just that at one point, she dreamed of saving Asgard, which was a Nexus event, so the tva showed up, took her and reset her timeline. So now she (he) grows up to be _our_ mischievous villain Loki, while the variant the tva took escaped and grew up to be our Sylvie. Just like the Show's Loki, who escaped from New York (which wasn't supposed to happen) so the tva took him and reset the timeline - so that Loki walks the path intended for him, dying in IW, while the variant becomes our main character. It all was one universe. the TVA exists in ONE universe. Lokis we saw are not like Peter Parkers, they are truly one person from one universe, while Peter Parkers are from different universes, "Spiderman" being a concept that ties them, they just happen to be named Peter Parker with similar but still different faiths and origins (because in infinite number of universes there eventually will be a few individuals named "Peter Parker" who also are "Spiderman") So, Sylvie killing Kang unleashed the Multiverse, opening our previously isolated Sacred Timeline to infinite other universes. In a number of those universes, variants of Kang are the rulers, each having its own TVA (per universe). Loki in the last scene ended up in a different universe in a different TVA, that happens to have a Mobius and a Hunter B15 in it.
@@eugeniamarch I still don't understand how Peter Parkers are from different universes but Lokis not. Sylvie said that her parents meaning Odin and Frigga told her that she is adopted. It never happened in our Loki timeline. So it must be another universe. Then when she dreamed about being a hero she breached her timeline. Also I'm confused why Loki is Sylvie. Did he changed his gender at birth, at 6 y o? Then it's also another universe bc in our Loki timeline Loki is mostly male (I mean we don't know whether he was a female but it was a short period of time cause apparently no one noticed) Or these events (changing gender and telling about adoption) should have breached timeline not the dreaming of becoming a hero.
@@lenakataeva7525 okay so it's blurry but if marvel going further won't contradict this, it's the most logical and consistent answer to how MCU works. I think Frigga and Odin telling Sylvie she is adopted is precisely the reason why she was a "good" Loki. Remember, all of Loki's trauma came from the fact that he was adopted and nobody told him (Loki screams at Odin "you could have told me from the beginning, why didn't you?"). He thought he was a prince, a worthy heir, and yet Odin never treated him as such, "you favoured Thor all this time". This was what led Loki to become a mischievous skunk, angry at the world. But if he was told he was adopted from the beginning, he would've known he wasn't a heir, and would've found a different path in life (in Sylvie's case - becoming a hero). Which obviously wasn't in the script, so the TVA show up. The gender thing is simply Loki's genderfluidity and shapeshifting on top of it, he doesn't have a specific gender or sex. If Loki was looking up at Valkyries as his heroes, and they are all women, it would make a lot of sense for him to want to be like them and take on female form and identity. After being taken by the TVA, i guess Sylvie just had no reason to change back and since then she is female presenting. (i used "he" pronounce for loki for easier grammar and communication) For Sylvie to be from another universe just doesn't make any sense. It's literally stated that Kang controls and writes the script for one universe. The sacred timeline is presented as ONE single line, and every time a different choice is being made - it branches off (and tva works to erase it and maintain the one sacred timeline). Unfortunately this lore is so complex there's a high possibility that marvel writers will get confused and mess it up, and Sylvie might be made to be from another universe, but until then - this is the way the MCU works that makes the most sense.
@@fanoos3373 Him not seeing time the same way and being able to manipulate it is kind of like when you complete those labirynthe on the back of the cereal box by starting by looking the end and making your way to the begining. He didn't have to manipulate anything exept suttle changes maybe but he just looked at the road with the ending that suits him, being the one with the lokis in front of him with the choice they have to make, and cut the branches that don't benefit in any of it. That's also why he can't know what happened next, because he started by the end being the two lokis on the chair having to make a choice. That's also why that moment is the treshold. He didn't modify any of it after that moment.
[1:30] Kang told Loki and Sylvie that he had paved the path for them which they followed to meet him(Kang). So, I think that when Loki followed Sylvie from Roxxcart, the order of events became a part of the "Sacred Timeline" under Kang's so called "Creative Adjustments". They were destined to meet Kang. So when they were about to die on Lamentis, the TVA got alerted. Because if you think about it, no matter what Sylvie and Loki did on Lamentis, it should not have made a branch alerting the TVA as they were hiding in an apocalypse where it is impossible to create a timeline. Even if they fell in love, it wouldn't have made any difference as they were still going to die. This proves that them surviving Lamentis to meet Kang was part of Kang's plan.
oh my god I wondered why the nexus event happened and this makes much more sense.......I went with Mobius's theory of 'them falling in love' but according to them again both loki and sylvie weren't supposed to live.....if that is so then why would it have made a difference if they catch feelings or not???? so no that's not it.. I also thought maybe it's because they were dying but again apparently if they weren't supposed to live then why the TVA still got the alert? that's becuz all that just happened....was supposed to happen.... they were both supposed to meet kang beyond the end of time.....so kang gave the alert himself
Loki himself said it that even if you do anything it wont cause a nexus because everything will be wipe out either way so yea them meeting Kang was part of the sacred timeline
Reunite yes but hopefully not for good. Loki sees his brother and Thor gets to see the potential Loki always had. Imagine this variant Loki gets to go back to his timelines Thor. How confused everyone would be at that character development I definitely would love to see that.
I just find it amazing how Kang’s power makes Thanos look like a little bug. I remember watching infinity war and endgame thinking that Thanos was the all powerful.
It makes sense that miss minutes is being controlled by someone else since Kang was surprised that miss minutes still has a nickname for him, but also would mean that whoever is controlling miss minutes is afraid of Loki because she offers a deal if they drop it all.
I don't think Kang I'm Quantumania will be like this. He was this manic because this version was million s if not billions of years old. He's been by himself trying to keep things from going awry. So the Kang we get I bet is much more evil and direct, a lot less manic. But I would love to be wrong because Majors absolutely crushed this interpretation of a mashup of He Who Remains and Immortus.
The best argument that I have for the Kang statue TVA being a different universe, is that when we see Mobius and B15 looking at the monitor saying "no turning back now", his hair is quite ruffled up. When Loki finds Mobius and B15, his hair looks combed, or at least in better shape. I truly think he somehow ended up in a different reality
I've watched the finale 3x already. Majors performance was phenomenal - and his explanation of himself and his evil doppleganger that's coming and the balance of the timeline was just sooooo good.
I think another thing that I found interesting was Loki saying that Kang was terrifying. Up into that point I didn't pick up on the fact that Loki was scared. But I did notice how quiet he was, he paid attention to everything kang for saying. But when he started talking to Mobius you can really hear the fear.
I love how the "threshold" point that Kang mentioned crossing, where he no longer knows what is going to happen, syncs near perfect with the moment that Wanda becomes Scarlett Witch in Wandavision. Both take place in the last episodes of their respective shows, and both points are even synced and occur at the same run time of each episode, down to the second. The effort and time that they put into the MCU to have everything intertwine to the extent that everything goes is just so crazy. It's the first of its kind in cinema, and it just keeps getting more insane with each new movie or series. They could literally keep this up forever, to where 20-30 plus years down the line they are still cranking them out, and I would still watch every single thing with fevered excitement lol. My only worry is that I will die while it's still going, and ill miss out on any installments released after I'm gone lol
I realize that the extreme branching on lamentis was due to them about to die, not love. If the lokis are responsible for creating immortus, then if they died on lamentis, that would not create immortus. That is the big branch. After all the TVA at that time only cared about immortus sacred timeline and nexus events that would harm it. Especially since, they got close on many other occasions and didn't branch.
I think the “See you soon” means that his other versions are coming. I also think that there’s not meant to be any Variants, the TVA has been shutting them down, but without Kang then the timelines aren’t being trimmed down anymore and that results in evil Kangs
I really like your miss minutes theory. A hidden Kang makes a lot of sense. Could also be “future” Slyvie, realizing her mistake and trying to correct it, while basically “off the board” as it appears to be
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So it’s a loop? It makes perfect sense for this to be a loop. Because all the events of episode 6 happened *outside of space and time*, meaning traditional time logic does not apply. The catalyst for the loop happened OUTSIDE of space and time, that essentially proves it’s a loop. Everything aligns perfectly. He who remains (kang) was killed by sylvie, which caused the timelines to branch into chaos, which then gave birth to the many evil/good Kang’s (he who remains’) and eventually birthed the Kang we saw get killed in episode 6 who would then bring balance back to the timeline. And who would then be killed by sylvie again which would lead to the timelines to branch into chaos and the loop continues. Also, Kang basically confirmed the loop, when he said if he was killed he’d end up right back where he was (“see you soon”). And again, the catalyst occurs outside of space and time (sylvie killing Kang), so there’s no conflict at all within the loop. Such an interesting turn of events, didn’t even see it coming.
I like how it makes total sense that kang wouldn’t stop the two Loki’s from killing him as no matter what they chose that variant of Kang always will come on top and no matter what the TVA will be formed again with the same Kang ruling it.
@@TheBTEAMwins I think what they meant is that in Endgame, the Ancient One explained that all the Infinity Stones had to be returned to their exact point in time and space, and also that you couldn't interfere with the past. We see the Avengers mess up getting the Tesseract the first time, but we find out in Loki: Episode 6 that that was supposed to happen so Loki could meet Kang. A bit of lazy writing, but okay, it gets a pass. But when Captain America goes to return the Infinity Stones, he is supposed to come back. Why? Peggy never saw Steve again up until she was old and dying, she was married to someone else, and if Sharon grew up with Peggy and her family, she would've known that someone else was Peggy's husband. But Steve stays in the past. He chooses to be with Peggy. This creates its own branch...but then *that* Steve ended up back in this branch to give the shield to Falcon. So, in a way, this is a new branch of the timeline, but it still merged enough for old Cap to come back. If Kang really did plan for *that* to happen, then time is just one big knot now. If that wasn't planned, though, then what Kang said about predetermination is wrong, we've always been close to the other multiverses, and personally, I think that makes the threat of Kang coming in different variants a lot more terrifying if *our* Kang was doing everything to hold them at bay.
@@brianapereira2694 afaik it’s not actually confirmed that Peggy was married to someone else. we only ever saw pictures of her with her kids, not including her spouse, and i think she mentions her spouse once but doesn’t name them. the theory being that her husband was actually steve but he was hidden in order to not interfere and create branches. so in that respect it still does make sense probably (i dunno it’s confusing) but with that said i still hate it lol. it was a terrible end to steve’s arc, like for example it implies steve just chilled with peggy for decades **knowing** that bucky was being tortured by hydra the whole time and did nothing, etc
What will really bake your noodle, Loki breaking free with the space stone, making himself a variant and being captured by the TVA, and helping Sylvie reach (and kill) the One Who Remains, is the reason Kang comes here. He was responsible for Thanos - and now he's responsible for Kang.
Lads. The “one” refers to the non local singularity of consciousness... meaning no matter what form or function the energy of the universe takes (me or you) the it is viewed through the same consciousness... basically we’re all the same person and humanity doesn’t know it.... yet 👽👍
Yes, but Ryan just pointed out that instead of the Architect scene in Matrix, think about Willy Wonka. Kang even mimics the Willy Wonka meme in this episode *wink wink*
Time is just a concept and how we explain atoms or objects moving from one place to another in our limited reality created by eyesight. Time doest actually exist and the only possible way to 'time travel' would be to move every atom in the universe to its previous position. While not impossible theoretically the task would be literally astronomical to track every atom. Nevermind move them to the correct position.
What a great ending! But, I was secretly hoping for a show where Mobius and Loki travel through time and solve time crimes/mysteries/ anomalies... guess I'm a time fascist myself! XD
They could probably still do that! Like in order to defeat the multi-villains they have to go undercover into their story to discover crucial clues from their past.
I just thought that explaining the mcu to my friends is already pretty complicated. Now how the f am I going to explain them the multiverse/multiversal wars/the concept of time, and how every character fits into this and why there’s spider-pig all the sudden. Jesus.
This was my immediate thought when I saw it. Maybe Kang's timepad thingie was already set to send Loki to a previous TVA (before the creation of the time keepers, hence Kang's statue) so that he can fix the sacred timeline from there.
@@Victfil I think that Loki was sent to one of the branches in the timeline, the Mobius we know and love is probably in a different timeline and Loki has to somehow find a way to find Mobius or bring the timeline back in a way that allows some free will? That is probably impossible though.
Miss Minutes has talked about her boss being the "Time keepers" and "He who remains". I think the TVA is like an infinite number of repeating copies of the same TVA workers. Every time there's a new timeline, a new copy of the TVA has to be made to police it. There's no way Loki walked all over every floor of the TVA that he could see. The other floors were labeled other things like TSY and TE7 and 372, and then Mobius said "what division are you from?". And then there were all the rings on the wood table that were supposedly all from Mobius. I think there's only 1 TVA, because it's a place outside the multiverse and time, but it has a room or area for each universe in the multiverse, and each branching timeline. I think the Kang statue is just the wrong block in a city.
@@deepsoul7418 I dunno, I'm just spitballing ideas to see what sticks. Maybe I'm totally wrong. Maybe the statue in the TVA is always the previous ruler of the TVA. When Kang killed the time keepers, they became the statues. When Slyvie killed Kang, kang becomes the statue. Or maybe because the TVA is outside time, there's no wait time for corrections in the timeline. If we saw all those kang timelines branching off, as if a bunch of versions of kang are coming to take the throne of he who remains or immortus, then maybe one of the new Kangs already made it to the end and became the new ruler at the end of time, and then that naturally changed the beginning of the TVA. Like maybe whoever ends up sitting in that castle at that end of time, creates a feedback loop of them becoming the new creator of the TVA... It's either that, or we have to assume there's multiple TVA's. Which doesn't really make sense if they are policing the multiverse as a whole. But maybe it's explainable if the space lizards just controlling one large branch, and offer immortus his own branch, but no one is allowed to disrupt the tree trunk itself or the roots, or the other sacred branches. If there's multiple TVA's then how are they in a dimension that's beyond time? How many pocket dimensions are there? Why aren't the TVA's competing with each other?
The golden cracks in the castle at the end of time are very likely a reference to Japanese art of Kintsugi (金継ぎ), which itself refers to Mushin (無心) philosophy. One way to say that any branches (cracks) are in the end all parts of the same reality, and that fate is predetermined.
Loki most likely ended up in a variant timeline where it was known that Immortus/Kang controlled the TVA instead of the lie about the Space Liza... I mean Time Keepers.
@@spacecowboy2957 Sylvie used the One Who Remains bracelet to send him there. He's the only one with the power to travel thru multi verses, I don't think she sent him there intentionally she just didn't know she had that kind of power in her hands. She was thinking of TVA headquarters she just picked the wrong one.
He's probably died so many times he doesn't even care anymore. He knows he's somehow going to come back and i guess that's why hes just chillin eating apples and acting a little insane
@@shina1399 He did say he'd see Sylvie again and that he would return and be reincarnated. I wouldn't be scared of dying either if I knew that I would just come back in a different loop.
I really liked the ending. Kang came across as crazy, but I could see why - he's been alive for God knows how many years. Any thoughts on Loki season 2 - could we see Loki battling himself and Sylvie in order to unpick what's just happened, or at least planting the seeds to whatever ends the war?
@@r2dxhate oh, I was thinking damn Korg looks great. You know Marvel gave them permission, or maybe even did it themselves. Korg is there IP, Deadpool now to really
@@trippytimesjosh355 Sorry my bad. I saw it on Emergency Awesome, and I still say the audio looks off or something in their clips of it. It looked fine on Ryan Reynolds channel tho.
My interpretation wasn’t that “He Who Remains” won the multiverse war, but instead found a way to shield this timeline from the others (that ring around him in the claymation reenactment). His death re-exposes it to the other multiverses, especially the one Kang The Conquerer (evil version) rules over. That’s where I think Sylvie sent Loki to - the mirror universe, where everyone has goatees and is evil. 😂 I’m excited tho, this totally makes sense going forwards (or, sideways?) in the MCU. With the next Spider-Man, Ant-Man and Doctor Strange movies all being about the multiverse, this will be the big thing in phase 4. That will bring us, finally, some good movies about the Fantastic Four and the X-Men. All things are as they should be. All is right with the world.
@@onetimebear5681 I freaking LOVED that silver car...lol and ohmygod the clothes!! Yeah, I just loved that whole show, the ending had me crying all over the place lol...and those two actors were then perfectly cast for this show...Lol good for them, get some of that Marvel money😂😊👍👍
@@MerijnH I don't see how a Loki could not pocket a few of those stones and hide them like his daggers. Surely you'd want them for whenever you're in a universe.
Would you not rather have free will even if it means possible destruction. Basically the entire universe is like the puppets wanda was controlling. No one would want that. Just to stay alive thats not living.
I am obsessed with your breakdowns they are phenomenal I couldn’t help but think after watching Loki finale, seeing the fear in Loki‘s eyes after meeting He Who Remains/other names. He was more terrified then when he saw Thanos. It’s all started to remind me of the movie Tenant. I honestly can’t wait to see what
I was thinking that from the time that He Who Remains stopped knowing what was happening and the timelines started branching, that's when Kang took over the TVA and because time works differently there, by the time that Sylvie sent Loki back there it was already taken over and completely changed the workers were already reset
@@jessicawinchester158 That's what they told us but who knows? The TVA thought 3 giant space Lizards were controlling time and created them, so I don't find their narrative very reliable.
I’ve really enjoyed watching the Loki series, thought it was really well done, best spin-off I’ve seen in SGS by far. My only critique, if you will; Why is it this Kang character had to be from Earth? Of all the worlds we’ve seen in Guardians of the Galaxy, Thor, Avengers etc why couldn’t he had been from another world? The people where Thanos originated from were super advanced, why not one of them, it would’ve made sense in way?
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did you notice that kang was sitting in his chair like the abraham lincoln statue after being stabbed by sophie?
Kang is here to setup the fantastic 4 as we can't fully vanquish Kang without them so by time we get the avengers event where they fight Kang for the last time we will have established the mutants celestial and the living tribunal in all the movies leading to it so I suspect like Brolin, majors will be in the MCU for a good decade. I also assume now that MCU has almost every single IP rights back, they will give us even more of what we want in future movies.
Bro here’s my theory about miss minute:
Miss minutes is actually Ravana renslayer.. in comics she was kang’s girlfriend and (as she cannot live forever), so in MCU kang transferred her conscious into miss minutes.. I am telling this because revona Didn’t turn against TVA or “the man in charge” even after knowing that she and every TVA agent is a variant, that’s how kang know she will understands him and will not betray him.
Also kang says “she still calling me that” after Loki and Sylvie ask him if he is who he remains.. that means kang is referring to miss minutes as if he knows her in person/ human form and they been together for long time/ or in infinite realities, so he finds it adorable that revona still calls him he who remains (the man in charge) after all this time. Also miss minutes was responding to non verbal cues of revona in previous episode when sylvie was asking about TVA’s history.
The files miss minutes have given to revona maybe relating to how kang’s made her into miss minutes or about her destiny (going to find if free will exists) and might have asked her to go to a specific reality where he really exists/ hiding
Kang pruned mostly Lokis out of the timeline because he knew that they were most likely to find him beyond the end of time. Remember that he said he knew everything that Loki and sylvie would do. That means that he lived through every attempt on his life, kind of like Dr. Strange did when he was checking the possibilities on titan. That is also what he meant by threshold, because that version of him never lived beyond that moment in the other trials. He’s stuck in a long loop, beginning to end of the universe and god knows for how many times. That is enough to turn anyone into a lunatic.
If you go back in time and change things, that creates a branch reality where yours you came from still exists if you can get back to that moment you left in precision. But it creates a new future if you stay in the past you changed. This is why multiversial theory exists. Going back in your own past will change the future of a timeliness you've never been apart of. But it also will change the future(if already written) in the version you came from. Time travel and the multiverse is easy to grasp but hard to articulate with limited vocabulary of self or peers. Rocket science is easy to a rocket scientist but rocket science to a cashier at the Gap is magic. All in all this a very smart move for the MCU as they can still produce new comic stories that exist in their own universes and now the MCU universe becomes its own timeliness that sits and fits in well with what the comics already do with differing stories derived from different universes. It's why in the very beginning they declared that our MCU earth was not 616 but another version. Its the most genius way to be able to do whatever with your MCU characters now and going future including newly acquired properties without confusing the actual die hard fan base. While also setting their own rules for MCU storytelling where we simply won't be able to easily theory craft from. It's simply a genius move. "Let's set it up where we can continue to produce amazing comics, tell stories but be able to canonly differentiate the movies from the literature now. Also a good way to break ties with Sony over Spiderman until they can aquire the last bit of rights away and bring it home to Marvel once again after 20 plus years. What a dodgy move to play on Sony lmao. Sony relies on Spiderman profits so much they might as well sell them to Disney and then find new IT'S, better writers and studio heads that allow more creativity. Anyway, thats my rant. Great season of Loki and cannot wait for the What If series. Black panther in space is gonna be the most fire episode, watch.
It was just sad when Mobius didn't recognized Loki
If it's a loop, then they will be friends again in no time. I'd give them a week.
@@peace4myheart No there is no loop anymore because now there are multiple timelines. (As I understand.)
@@quanqiller409 this is part of the loop
Loki is in a another universe
The last episode was so good, everyone forgot we were all waiting for that jet ski and a solid "woooow". I pray we get it sometime.
The complexity of Marvel’s storyline and how each movie intertwines with each other just blows me away every time
The harder it is to understand an art concept the more pleasing it is when understood if that makes sense
that's probably because you haven't read a single book in your life.
@@NikolaBlahBlahh you can experience anything and still be shocked with the same thing
@@jamssy3409 conversely, you can be appreciative while not being shocked due to a concept you've already known being done in a great way. To those of us who've expanded our horizons, what Marvel's doing is not particularly new, it just happens to be done in a way we can all appreciate
It’s crazy that kang has been Orchestrating and manipulating every event in the timeline in the MCU everything was meant to happen because Khan was controlling everything from the beginning
The reason Kang's acting over the top is that he is millions of years old and the human mind isn't designed to function that long. Kang is literally crazy at this point.
This is what makes the actor so amazing, because the next time we see him... He'll be a lot more egotistical and imposing.. We saw a very humble version
@@galick_gun_gaming His true acting skills will be put to the test.
Reminded me of what happened to Jessica on that Rick & Morty episode where she gets trapped in a crystal for centuries
@@teq8061 Lovecraft Country took care of that 😄.
@@PlayaP69 Nae, his performance was great don't get me wrong, but being able to perform multiple iterations of the same person to a high degree among a variety of projects is the pinnacle of acting ability
The only thing I'm disappointed in this season finale, is there is no Post-Credit Scene.
Well, technically, there is
There was. It said that Loki will return in season 2
Aside from saying Loki will return, yeah kind of-
Something I just noticed…During Kang’s speech he says it can go one of two ways and specifically mentions plunging her blade in his chest…which we know is what happened. Not the head or the neck or the gut. Also when he takes off his time twister he slides it very carefully across his desk to a specific spot…a spot where Sylvie will be able to reach it so she can expel Loki and kill Kang. It’s like poetry it rhymes.
Does he do these before he says he doesn't know what gonna happen or after? If he was lying it means he still knew exactly what to do.
@@fortunetaco4585 he definitely knew, why else would he tell them they crossed the threshold and doesnt know what would happen? He was bulletining, either choice they made he was going to be happy cause he was going to come back if killed and he was gonna ride off in the sunset if they didn't kill him
@@nicksandz3209 So Thanos said he was inevitable, but really its kang that is inevitable.
@@NeedMorePlebs agreed
@@nicksandz3209 So is theory that the threshold where Kang coudnt see what was gonna happen because of Wanda becoming the Scarlet witch debunked?
This version of Kang was probably the most benevolent. I’m stoked to see him cranked to 11. He did a very very good job. Marvel kills it with their casting.
To be honest, they could have just had Kanye West show up and act like himself.
@@r2dxhate 💀💀
LET THE CARNAGE BEGIN🔥🔥⏳
@@r2dxhate Maybe he was playing Kanye
Yeah his acting was stunning
Never thought I’d get jumpscared by a hologram of an anthropomorphic cartoon clock with a southern accent after the end of time, but here we are…
No, because that clock scared the hell out of me.
Idk why but it didn’t scare me at all
@This Channel introduces R18 sexy gals dafuq u on about
It didn't scare me when I watched the episode but everytime I see it in a yt video it scares me
@@shae2162 just wait till you see her in your dreams/ nightmare. Creepy as hell. Hi yall.
MISS MINUTES SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF ME 😂😂😂
Me to bro!!!!
Miss minutes:👁👄👁 HeY yA”lL
I'll never look to my analog watch the same way again.
Especially watching it in the dark
especially watching this video alone dark in my room
I'll admit it, I was one of the many clowns who thought MCU had peaked after endgame
It's okay so long as you admit your fault
Now join the family
technically it did. this is just gonna raise the peak
@@brownie3454 I can agree with that
You are forgiven
Endgame was trash but the Loki series was great
More importantly, this explains Scarlet Witches After Credits Ending. She heard her son's voices through the multiverse.
Woah good observation
Yoo
Biiiiig stretch but maybe
@@bizuett why big stretch it's phase 4 stuff
@@prod.scripta there's no evidence about the correlation between such events.
I'm just sad that moebius never got his jetski
He both did and did not get his jet-ski my little friend.
I was so sure the post credits scene was going to be him riding a jet ski!
@@danielvergara4358 Seson 2 will have fan service I'm sure of it.
@@MorganStorey let's storm the capitol if he doesn't ride his jet ski?
Or didn’t get to say “Wow!”, a real missed opportunity given all the things that went on in this show.
Jonathan Majors is going to make an amazing and terrifying Kang. As usual Marvel killed it with this casting and it has me very hyped for the future of the MCU. Loki was completely terrified at the end of the episode.
just how bruce was at the beginning of infinity war
Best part is this might be the most benevolent version of kang. I can't even imagine how his evil selves are gonna be like...
Yes! It truly was a phenomenal introduction to a character!! And the fear in loki at the end... what a brilliant set up!! And incredible performers.
His look at statue is Bruce saying "he is coming he is coming" and we are saying "who?"
Phase 4 was started
There are a few Casting choices Marvel has made that have not delivered. But only about 3, one is in this show.
Thanos as a villain was powerful, he had a plan.. However, it's only because Kang wanted it to be this way - now that's ultimate power.
@DJ C Combat And he couldn't make Thanos Win the last timeline because Sylvie killed him
So that 1 possibility of winning is through Kang. Dr. Strange been knew.
@@bbd1603 I don't understand shit. Thanos didn't win in that timeline because Sylvie killed this Kang? So this storyline took place before Infinity War? Right after the New York battle?
I'm mind blown
Picture the sacred timeline as Kang's fixed storyline. Although the sacred timeline encompassed other timelines woven together like a rope, the only narrative permitted by Kang was the narrative of the current MCU as we know it. This is why variants within other timelines were pruned by the TVA, to ensure that the narrative continued and always led to Kang's desired outcome.
Hope this makes sense!
Someone actually thought of this whole storyline and it is finally being put into motion. Whoever that is/was is the real master of the universe
One-above-all
I would love to know how the marvel phases and storyline is created. Maybe eventually they will do a behind the scenes movie of the creation of all the movies. Has to be planned several years ahead.
This story, of Kang creating the TVA , to stop multiversal war, is a basic story of Marvel Comics
Nope... our lord is the ultimate mastermind...
@@bond3161 who is our lord?
I was half expecting Kang to just suddenly do a musical in front of Loki and Sylvie. He was so interesting and quirky
Hahaha true. I couldn’t quite read his expressions. It was expressive and everywhere. Really intriguing.
“while he’s in here, missing Sylvie and feeling sorry for himself..”
he is ALLOWED sir
Bro fr 😭 I wanted nothing more than for Sylvie and Loki to fall in love and Marvel pretty much just shat on my hopes 😂
He is allowed sir? Not sure why this comment is over my head. What's allowed?
@@cclark3 I think they did fall in love, and that's why Sylvia stayed her sword when Loki appeared in front of Kang and then pushed him through the "door" to get him out of the way so she could finish the job instead of killing him.
@@McKible19 It was devastating moment for Loki...it was perfectly fine for him to feel that way.
@@jillcresey-gross8202 I hope they get together in season 2;(
I love how they changed Kang from a time villain to a multiverse villain. He is gonna be such a badass from now on. No more kidding around.
@@CreatorsHubCreates hes human, not an alien
Im just looking forward to them having to work with a kang to kill a kang
I just remember after end game everyone thought the next big bad was finna be galactus. Galactus is just a forgotten memory after they said that Loki was finna have a big role in the mcu when it was about time
Thanos dies
Galactus - Everyone think I’m going to be there next. Just waiting for marvel to reply.
“Reveals Loki is going to impact”
Galactus- I’m fine they just introducing the multiverse so I can come in. Still waiting for that reply.
“Loki episode 6 comes out”
Galactus - WHAT THE F***
Technically he was both right? Council of Kangs?
The one thing I've learned from this show: You can't trust Marvel trailers! They put so many alternate shots into the trailers that don't match up with the actual scenes in the shows that it's like _they're_ from an alternate reality.
Maybe they are Loki's 😃😃
That's a multiverse of madness in of itself
Why I stopped watching Trailers for shows/movies more than a decade ago. Even in theatres I'll be on my phone through the previews till my movie starts - I want to go into everything with a clear mind, no biases/expectations
I kinda like that, no big spoilers, but still showcasing the impressive production values.
@@ruckusroke yes but for Marvel they always give you so many clues in the trailers that it’s hard to not watch them as soon as they come out.
Did anyone else notice that while Loki is running through the archives, his movements aren't really fluid like he doesn't appear from behind the next shelf exactly when he should if it was one fluid motion.. I think that part symbolizes him running through the TVA while many different branches are being created, finally landing him in the one where Mobius doesn't know him
I thought that same thing. Disjointed. Stuttering.
That's the first thing I noticed when I watched the episode, because I'm spoiled by film making usually a camera passing through objects hide hidden cuts and I noticed every time it passed a bookshelf, Lokis movement changed. One he was walking, then running, then walking confused, then walking again
Almost like the timelines kept resetting until settling on the one that would be the most distressing to Loki. 😕
Yes. That has got to be a nudge.
I thought my eyes were messing with me lmfao
What if Sylvie and Loki's nexus event in Lamentis was actually "dying" in the apocalypse? If they died, no one would get to Immortus (He who remained) and kill him and the Multiversal War could not have happened, so this means that it was all supposed to happen.
but then they would've detected after their deaths and i know they could've detected it afetr their deaths and jsut got to them a bit earlier in time to save them, but the way it was portrait it looked like it was the romance between them that caused the branch
So they actually died and in reality they never walked in that portal to the tva?????
Honestly when I watched the episode and saw the 2 options presented, I knew this was going to be REALLY HARD. Option 1: Loki and Sylvie become the new rulers of TVA. This sounds terrible because the TVA goes against the principles of free will. Avengers Loki would have loved it but our current Loki has evolved so much past the point that he realizes that he can't do it. It would continue his loop, he gets to be 'king of all time' but at the expense of everyone's happiness and free will. Sylvie was a fine example of this where her entire life was ruined by the TVA just because she existed. Option 2: Kill Kang and let chaos go crazy which would unlock 'worse Kangs'. Sylvie chooses this because she was so driven by revenge and in a sense continues her Loki loop. Our Loki has surpassed himself as he has seen that if he continues his loop, it would only bring suffering, isolation and unhappiness, and he tries to stop Sylvie from her loop but fails. He lived that life before and didn't want Sylvie to go down the path he did, but she kind of 'becomes him' enacting revenge on Kang. And what a brilliant line he says 'I just want you to be ok' because he can see his former self in her and hopes that with his love, she wouldn't go to the dark side. Unfortunately, Syvlie pushes him away because she's like 'screw love, I just want my revenge'. Love wasn't her priority, not at this time. Love to her was simply a distraction.
Loki knows that both options are terrible but was trying to have a discussion with Sylvie to see if he could find a 'best of both worlds answer' but in her emotionally charged state, option 2 was obviously the most attractive to her but after she kills Kang, she realizes the anticlimax. That in her selfishness, she has unleashed hell upon the universe. But actually if you think about it, there probably is no middle ground. Kang knows that there is actually only 1 option: letting lose the multiverse. Because he knows that Loki and Sylvie will not pick Option 1. He's actually not worried about dying because he literally thinks he has mastered the past, present and future. He is immortal because he knows there will always be Kangs out there. Maybe initially he thought that having a dictatorship over the entire universe was the way to go, but now that he sees that Loki and Sylvie were able to make it this far and confront him, he sees 'hey, maybe I can get this to work for me. Maybe I don't just get 1 universe to rule, maybe I can rule MULTIPLE universes' and possibly, he already knew that Sylvie would eventually 'kill him' and kick-off his conquest of multiple universes. So in a way, Kang has played Loki and Sylvie. He actually wins despite 'dying'.
I think Loki has become so self-aware that he can see that it is a trap that's why he tries to stop Sylvie but alas, she falls for it and now Loki has to think about how to prepare for the 'attack of the Kangs' and now realizes that now that 'worse Kangs' are out there, the whole universe is gonna suck a whole lot more. At first I thought that the TVA would cease to exist without 'good Kang' but it turns out, 'worse Kangs' now run the TVA so the TVA technically still exists. So the question is will we get our Mobius back? Or Loki will have to do the '50 first dates' all over again to get a Mobius to trust him? It seems now with this change, Lokis, like you said, are not a major threat and new Mobius doesn't even recognize a Loki as a Loki, he just asks 'oh what is your position, who are you?' . The show totally looks like it went 'Back to the Future' where Loki is the constant but everything changes around him as time modifies. And yup, this would certainly be a job for Dr Strange and Wanda to fix with Loki possibly helping on the side.
Fantastic analysis! Very well written. Thank you Christine x
Now this is quality foresight
You should apply at marvel and show them this analysis they will surely hire you
@@moeenmughal4320 hahha thanks but naw, I do these for fun : )
@@Grimsg hahaha keep it up we need more people like you 👍😂
When Kang is shown dead in his chair he is posed like the Lincoln Memorial statue. Right leg stretched out, left leg pulled in, right hand gripping the chair arm, left hand more relaxed. Is this intentional symbolism? Like Lincoln trying to keep the country from dividing, Kang was trying to maintain a united timeline? Or something like that?
good find!
Indeed excellent observation
Wow wow wow
Xd
I think you're reading too much into it. But see what you wanna see, I guess.
Meanwhile, DC: let's reboot Batman with 0 screen brightness
And prolly another Superman
@Gus Gang they should there is a video by Film Theory that actually can help DC correct its movie universe if u want i can link that
@@jariuscurry1138 black superman comin up
Also DC: "Crank Gamma to 11".
Marvel: Let's build a cinematic universe....phase by phase....film by film. DC: Makes films and see what sticks. Who needs...a plan?🤔🤔🤔🤷🤷😳😳😳
Since Silvie was able to bring back old memories by enchanting the TVA agents and now Loki learned how to enchant while fighting Alioth, do you think he will try to enchant Mobius in the next season to help him remember?
Interesting point but I think as he is in a different multiverse there would be no memories to remember
i want this to be real ssssoooo badddd
Why didn’t Kang reset the memories of Loki?
“We just crossed… the threshold.” Majors’ expression/tonal change was so clear. He’s a great actor/villain 😈
“And they all lead here… but never further.” Like The Ancient One, not seeing beyond her life, He Who Remains couldn’t see past that moment in “time.” Same thunder? in the backgrounds of those scenes. 🤯 Lokis had the chance to take over, like Dr. Strange, but Sylvie released chaos instead. So Dr. Strange/Spider-Man and friends must correct their mistake.
I'm glad they used He Who Remains like this
I mean the original character doesn't have much to him aside from just it... He Who Remains.
This is good.
Causes suspense looks just like imortus but not immortal
Imortus - immortal = he who remains kinda like that better ngl
Yeah. I'm glad they didn't give us a character like the last crusade knight in Indiana Jones lol
@@robertjilano 😂
@@robertjilano 😂
Sylvie:"I told you , you die for that."
He who renains: "you should have aimed for the job...".
Pay the minimum wage first.
That shit is funny 🤣🤣🤣.
Renains
This episode was AMAZING. A work of art and attention to detail.
True
Mr Eric Martin Is a genius
Remind me of a star trek movie
Indeed!!!
The one who break the loop is actually loki, he did it by doing something no other loki in existense do, doing something for someone else instead of himself, not sylvie because she did what other loki did betray other and ignoring the consuquence of her action thus trap herself in loki loop, you know do a thing-betray other-lose, thus she actually can kill kang was thanks to loki breaking the loop in the first place
Ooo I like how you think. The young fat Loki said to Loki “you’re different, why?”
@@pika7623 fat..?
@@pika7623 he wasn't fat
@@yionane he looks chubby
@@pika7623 he didn't and also, i don't think calling him fat was very nice of you
jonathan majors acted exactly like what i imagined someone whose discovered alternate realities would act.
When kang died I thought it was like when the Sorcerer Supreme couldn’t see past her death, thus making me believe that no matter what. You cant look past from when you die
But this also means when Dr. Strange viewed 14 million potential futures to try to beat Thanos... There could have been many more than one. But only one where they won AND Dr. Strange survived.
I think it was because he took off his wrist device. He is a scientist, not a god. So this would make the most sense
@@robertbeste That is very true.
@@robertbeste yo that is a VERY good perspective on it WOW. That's good.
This should have been called a miniseries. Just when things get good cliffhanger and see you in two + years.
We will see the impact of this much sooner than 2 years thru the upcoming movies. Spidey and Dr. Strange will definitely touch on the multiverse outbreak.
Miniseries have 1 season
Whatever this called, I'm just glad. With this kind of budget they could make this in to 2 hours movie, instead we got 5 house of storyline. 2 years seem reasonable compared to movie release schedule.
rip the mobius and Loki's friendship :/
RIP Mobius on his jetski! I've waited the whole season for this!
It's still there, just in a different timeline
I'm sure now that Loki knows how to do the memory recall trick of Sylvie that they'll be besties again soon...
@@halbouma6720 but will that work still since it’s a mobius from a different universe
@@halbouma6720 I don't think it'll work. The thing is, Loki is in a different universe now, so that Mobius has different memories too
I think kang was tired of always knowing everything and always keeping order. You can see he’s almost giddy to get to the point where he stops knowing, and he is excited at every little thing that happens after he loses sight. He got to witness a show in those last few minutes of his life by dividing the lokis and leaving it to chance.
However like he said it was only 2 ways it would end, Loki takes his spot or Loki kills and other Kangs Rule so at the end he still knew it was only choices even if he couldn't see which one Loki decided
MCU's chaotic story lines are actually making me question my reality so hard I think I shit my soul out...just when I thought my ongoing existential crisis couldn't get any worse 🤔
The idea behind we are all part of a loop and are controlled by someone is SCARY.
@@pinakpanisatpathy5136 religious people : we were right all along
@@HammerLeaf you’re right but humans have done pretty well to get this far. even if it is just depicting all of this on tv, we are low-key smart as hell
Did you noticed that the way ' He who remains ' presented the events when he was explaining to Lokis was pretty similar to the way EGO presented his story to Starlord in GOTG Vol 2.
You mean skirting around another purpose, conveniently leaving out key bits of information that would reveal their TRUE motive? Yea. it did feel that way.
Both are very old and you never know, maybe they met 😆
@@Squidbush8563 Oh, I thought he meant that they buy display devices from the same company but what you said sounds probable too.
@@itsmeh4364 maybe they were lovers a long time ago in a far away galaxy 😳
@@Squidbush8563 😂
I must be in a time loop, because once again Tom Hiddleston’s acting absolutely blew me away. 👏🏻 Give the man all the awards 🏆
Now everything make sense, why Eternals need to intervene, why Wanda and Doctor Strange is together to correct the reality "Nexus being", why Spiderman is in No Way Home , why we have the Jane Foster as the New Thor and the entrance of Fantastic Four, all is now falling to places 😍😍😍
It's like a puzzle piece
Tom Holland gets send to the Fox Universe :(
Ya this phase is gonna be massive. Imagine a huge endgame-style battle with all of the parallel universe heroes of the MCU fighting an army of Kangs and brainwashed TVA agents. Gonna be insane.
mcu is just on another level
No more mutants
My thoughts on Loki’s ending: he is in a different universe. In the explanation of He Who Remains we see his variants using those temporal doors to cross over, the same way the TVA does when they hunt down a branched reality. Sylvie pushes Loki through the door, after new branches were formed. He is in the multiverse but at the same point in time, because the multiverse is happening all at once.
I just finished the show and been somewhat obsessed with theorys. Out of everything this random comment makes the most sense hyped for season 2 eventually.
But how TVA could have a multiversal versions when they hunt variants across the multiverse cause Sylvie is Loki an other universe and Sylvie in the show is a variant of that Sylvie?
@@lenakataeva7525 that's not it. up until Sylvie killed Kang, the show "Loki" (and the entire MCU) was in one single universe *the sacred timeline* . Kang explained it, he cut off ONE universe and controls it - The sacred timeline - writing how events should go, and every time it doesn't go how he planned - the TVA (his creation) show up and fix it. Think of it as a tree that wants to grow branches but all the branches are cut off except for one path of how Kang wants the history to unfold.
Sylvie is not from another universe, she is from OUR universe (The sacred timeline), she literally IS our Loki. it's just that at one point, she dreamed of saving Asgard, which was a Nexus event, so the tva showed up, took her and reset her timeline. So now she (he) grows up to be _our_ mischievous villain Loki, while the variant the tva took escaped and grew up to be our Sylvie. Just like the Show's Loki, who escaped from New York (which wasn't supposed to happen) so the tva took him and reset the timeline - so that Loki walks the path intended for him, dying in IW, while the variant becomes our main character. It all was one universe. the TVA exists in ONE universe.
Lokis we saw are not like Peter Parkers, they are truly one person from one universe, while Peter Parkers are from different universes, "Spiderman" being a concept that ties them, they just happen to be named Peter Parker with similar but still different faiths and origins (because in infinite number of universes there eventually will be a few individuals named "Peter Parker" who also are "Spiderman")
So, Sylvie killing Kang unleashed the Multiverse, opening our previously isolated Sacred Timeline to infinite other universes. In a number of those universes, variants of Kang are the rulers, each having its own TVA (per universe). Loki in the last scene ended up in a different universe in a different TVA, that happens to have a Mobius and a Hunter B15 in it.
@@eugeniamarch I still don't understand how Peter Parkers are from different universes but Lokis not.
Sylvie said that her parents meaning Odin and Frigga told her that she is adopted. It never happened in our Loki timeline. So it must be another universe. Then when she dreamed about being a hero she breached her timeline.
Also I'm confused why Loki is Sylvie. Did he changed his gender at birth, at 6 y o? Then it's also another universe bc in our Loki timeline Loki is mostly male (I mean we don't know whether he was a female but it was a short period of time cause apparently no one noticed)
Or these events (changing gender and telling about adoption) should have breached timeline not the dreaming of becoming a hero.
@@lenakataeva7525 okay so it's blurry but if marvel going further won't contradict this, it's the most logical and consistent answer to how MCU works.
I think Frigga and Odin telling Sylvie she is adopted is precisely the reason why she was a "good" Loki. Remember, all of Loki's trauma came from the fact that he was adopted and nobody told him (Loki screams at Odin "you could have told me from the beginning, why didn't you?"). He thought he was a prince, a worthy heir, and yet Odin never treated him as such, "you favoured Thor all this time". This was what led Loki to become a mischievous skunk, angry at the world.
But if he was told he was adopted from the beginning, he would've known he wasn't a heir, and would've found a different path in life (in Sylvie's case - becoming a hero). Which obviously wasn't in the script, so the TVA show up.
The gender thing is simply Loki's genderfluidity and shapeshifting on top of it, he doesn't have a specific gender or sex. If Loki was looking up at Valkyries as his heroes, and they are all women, it would make a lot of sense for him to want to be like them and take on female form and identity. After being taken by the TVA, i guess Sylvie just had no reason to change back and since then she is female presenting. (i used "he" pronounce for loki for easier grammar and communication)
For Sylvie to be from another universe just doesn't make any sense. It's literally stated that Kang controls and writes the script for one universe. The sacred timeline is presented as ONE single line, and every time a different choice is being made - it branches off (and tva works to erase it and maintain the one sacred timeline).
Unfortunately this lore is so complex there's a high possibility that marvel writers will get confused and mess it up, and Sylvie might be made to be from another universe, but until then - this is the way the MCU works that makes the most sense.
It’s crazy to believe that Endgame was merely the tip of the iceberg
That means the RAT in EndGame is a VARIANT placed there by KANG in order to create all the events we know so we could have the multiverse lol 😆
So you’re telling me he planned EVERYTHING in the entire multiverse ??
@@fanoos3373 Him not seeing time the same way and being able to manipulate it is kind of like when you complete those labirynthe on the back of the cereal box by starting by looking the end and making your way to the begining. He didn't have to manipulate anything exept suttle changes maybe but he just looked at the road with the ending that suits him, being the one with the lokis in front of him with the choice they have to make, and cut the branches that don't benefit in any of it. That's also why he can't know what happened next, because he started by the end being the two lokis on the chair having to make a choice. That's also why that moment is the treshold. He didn't modify any of it after that moment.
@@LomalaMalet Sorry but the Rat is Mickey Mouse who saves the MCU in a different reality
What are u talking abt
@@cultureisdead6343 hes saying disney saved marvel
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Kang told Loki and Sylvie that he had paved the path for them which they followed to meet him(Kang).
So, I think that when Loki followed Sylvie from Roxxcart, the order of events became a part of the "Sacred Timeline" under Kang's so called "Creative Adjustments".
They were destined to meet Kang. So when they were about to die on Lamentis, the TVA got alerted.
Because if you think about it, no matter what Sylvie and Loki did on Lamentis, it should not have made a branch alerting the TVA as they were hiding in an apocalypse where it is impossible to create a timeline. Even if they fell in love, it wouldn't have made any difference as they were still going to die.
This proves that them surviving Lamentis to meet Kang was part of Kang's plan.
oh my god I wondered why the nexus event happened and this makes much more sense.......I went with Mobius's theory of 'them falling in love' but according to them again both loki and sylvie weren't supposed to live.....if that is so then why would it have made a difference if they catch feelings or not???? so no that's not it..
I also thought maybe it's because they were dying but again apparently if they weren't supposed to live then why the TVA still got the alert?
that's becuz all that just happened....was supposed to happen.... they were both supposed to meet kang beyond the end of time.....so kang gave the alert himself
Loki himself said it that even if you do anything it wont cause a nexus because everything will be wipe out either way so yea them meeting Kang was part of the sacred timeline
Thor from our timeline will reunite with our Loki when Kang is defeated. Loki predicted this in infinity war.
“I assure you…then sun shall shine on us again…”
Ooooh, can't wait to see that!😁
Reunite yes but hopefully not for good. Loki sees his brother and Thor gets to see the potential Loki always had. Imagine this variant Loki gets to go back to his timelines Thor. How confused everyone would be at that character development I definitely would love to see that.
likely but probably not in Thor 4
@@Isaacisaperson4677 I think Thor 4 would be too early. Thor's got to have time to process his grief of losing Odin, Loki & perhaps Jane....
I just find it amazing how Kang’s power makes Thanos look like a little bug. I remember watching infinity war and endgame thinking that Thanos was the all powerful.
but how is he stronger? isnt he just a human at the end of the day
@@Kai88988 well yeah, but clearly thanos can still die like any being
It makes sense that miss minutes is being controlled by someone else since Kang was surprised that miss minutes still has a nickname for him, but also would mean that whoever is controlling miss minutes is afraid of Loki because she offers a deal if they drop it all.
Seeing "Kang" as a kind of lunatic will make him totally dope as the villian in AM&TWQ!🤩
I don't think Kang I'm Quantumania will be like this. He was this manic because this version was million s if not billions of years old. He's been by himself trying to keep things from going awry.
So the Kang we get I bet is much more evil and direct, a lot less manic.
But I would love to be wrong because Majors absolutely crushed this interpretation of a mashup of He Who Remains and Immortus.
@@Real28 I agree he’d probably be more menacing and calculated and less like insane
@@Real28 I really hope this Kang will feel like the Kang from the Avengers Assemble Cartoon. That Kang was so cool.
@@slimyyetsatisfying6637 probably not tbh I think marvel can still make him menacing and if not we’ll still see him plenty of more times
The best argument that I have for the Kang statue TVA being a different universe, is that when we see Mobius and B15 looking at the monitor saying "no turning back now", his hair is quite ruffled up. When Loki finds Mobius and B15, his hair looks combed, or at least in better shape. I truly think he somehow ended up in a different reality
Omggg that actually makes sense my mind is blown!!!!
I was in awe(&aww) this entire episode, I'm definitely going to be watching this series again and maybe again.
10/10 this show was amazing!! Definitely watching it again also
@@CYeoung not necessarily. Maybe he just was like 🥺🥰 for 50 minutes 🤷🏻♂️😂
I've watched the finale 3x already. Majors performance was phenomenal - and his explanation of himself and his evil doppleganger that's coming and the balance of the timeline was just sooooo good.
Brien G. Great writing
Maybe you already have…..
I think another thing that I found interesting was Loki saying that Kang was terrifying. Up into that point I didn't pick up on the fact that Loki was scared. But I did notice how quiet he was, he paid attention to everything kang for saying. But when he started talking to Mobius you can really hear the fear.
The more I hear the name “he who remains” the more I think it might be an alternate version of Harry potter
Hahah
It made me think of "Me" from Dr Who
Jar Jar crushed by a truck..... yes, for all time, always.
Always
Always
Lmao "Me-sa donna wanna be truck crushed".
One does not simply crush the dark lord of the sith
You know he is Darth Binks in one of those universes
Speaking of loops, season 2 will begin with Loki and Mobius getting to know each other again.
Maybe that’s how the Jet-ski comes in. Loki proved Mobius once again that events were not as they seemed by revealing his love for Jet-Ski
Whatever happens, the new Dr. Strange movie has the potencial to be fucking good.
I love how the "threshold" point that Kang mentioned crossing, where he no longer knows what is going to happen, syncs near perfect with the moment that Wanda becomes Scarlett Witch in Wandavision. Both take place in the last episodes of their respective shows, and both points are even synced and occur at the same run time of each episode, down to the second. The effort and time that they put into the MCU to have everything intertwine to the extent that everything goes is just so crazy. It's the first of its kind in cinema, and it just keeps getting more insane with each new movie or series. They could literally keep this up forever, to where 20-30 plus years down the line they are still cranking them out, and I would still watch every single thing with fevered excitement lol. My only worry is that I will die while it's still going, and ill miss out on any installments released after I'm gone lol
I realize that the extreme branching on lamentis was due to them about to die, not love.
If the lokis are responsible for creating immortus, then if they died on lamentis, that would not create immortus. That is the big branch. After all the TVA at that time only cared about immortus sacred timeline and nexus events that would harm it.
Especially since, they got close on many other occasions and didn't branch.
I think the “See you soon” means that his other versions are coming. I also think that there’s not meant to be any Variants, the TVA has been shutting them down, but without Kang then the timelines aren’t being trimmed down anymore and that results in evil Kangs
everything you just said is in the video
I agree with you
everything you just said is said explicitly in the episode
Yeah, everyone knows
Devil? Kang in the episode said that wait till you see something like the other Me... see you soon sylvie
He isn't Immortus. He really is "He who Remains." A completely unique Kang. A light and brutally honest take on the character that fits with Loki.
Also, miss minutes tried pulling a matrix card on the loki's lol
Majors is an INCREDIBLE actor; I’m excited to see more of him!
I really like your miss minutes theory. A hidden Kang makes a lot of sense. Could also be “future” Slyvie, realizing her mistake and trying to correct it, while basically “off the board” as it appears to be
In Japan, when you repair a broken bowl, you do it with gold leaf. It enhances the broken bowl as if it always was destine to be better.
Kintsugi, also known as kintsukuroi, is the Japanese art of repairing broken pottery by mending the areas of breakage with lacquer dusted or mixed with powdered gold, silver, or platinum, a method similar to the maki-e technique.
@@peace4myheart Thanx for clarifying my statement. =D
The Man in the High Castle
So it’s a loop? It makes perfect sense for this to be a loop. Because all the events of episode 6 happened *outside of space and time*, meaning traditional time logic does not apply. The catalyst for the loop happened OUTSIDE of space and time, that essentially proves it’s a loop. Everything aligns perfectly.
He who remains (kang) was killed by sylvie, which caused the timelines to branch into chaos, which then gave birth to the many evil/good Kang’s (he who remains’) and eventually birthed the Kang we saw get killed in episode 6 who would then bring balance back to the timeline. And who would then be killed by sylvie again which would lead to the timelines to branch into chaos and the loop continues. Also, Kang basically confirmed the loop, when he said if he was killed he’d end up right back where he was (“see you soon”). And again, the catalyst occurs outside of space and time (sylvie killing Kang), so there’s no conflict at all within the loop.
Such an interesting turn of events, didn’t even see it coming.
makes me feel like the whole ben10
I like how it makes total sense that kang wouldn’t stop the two Loki’s from killing him as no matter what they chose that variant of Kang always will come on top and no matter what the TVA will be formed again with the same Kang ruling it.
Mr?
@@annedrieck7316 a bit late… but: Dr.
The chills I got through my body when Mobius didn’t recognize him 😱
i have a feeling cap's mission to return the infinity stones has something to do with everything that's about to transpire in the MCU
Explain plz
@@TheBTEAMwins I think what they meant is that in Endgame, the Ancient One explained that all the Infinity Stones had to be returned to their exact point in time and space, and also that you couldn't interfere with the past.
We see the Avengers mess up getting the Tesseract the first time, but we find out in Loki: Episode 6 that that was supposed to happen so Loki could meet Kang. A bit of lazy writing, but okay, it gets a pass. But when Captain America goes to return the Infinity Stones, he is supposed to come back. Why? Peggy never saw Steve again up until she was old and dying, she was married to someone else, and if Sharon grew up with Peggy and her family, she would've known that someone else was Peggy's husband.
But Steve stays in the past. He chooses to be with Peggy. This creates its own branch...but then *that* Steve ended up back in this branch to give the shield to Falcon. So, in a way, this is a new branch of the timeline, but it still merged enough for old Cap to come back.
If Kang really did plan for *that* to happen, then time is just one big knot now. If that wasn't planned, though, then what Kang said about predetermination is wrong, we've always been close to the other multiverses, and personally, I think that makes the threat of Kang coming in different variants a lot more terrifying if *our* Kang was doing everything to hold them at bay.
@@brianapereira2694 afaik it’s not actually confirmed that Peggy was married to someone else. we only ever saw pictures of her with her kids, not including her spouse, and i think she mentions her spouse once but doesn’t name them. the theory being that her husband was actually steve but he was hidden in order to not interfere and create branches. so in that respect it still does make sense probably (i dunno it’s confusing) but with that said i still hate it lol. it was a terrible end to steve’s arc, like for example it implies steve just chilled with peggy for decades **knowing** that bucky was being tortured by hydra the whole time and did nothing, etc
What will really bake your noodle, Loki breaking free with the space stone, making himself a variant and being captured by the TVA, and helping Sylvie reach (and kill) the One Who Remains, is the reason Kang comes here. He was responsible for Thanos - and now he's responsible for Kang.
I can't believe more people aren't making The Matrix comparisons to this series. Loki is Neo, the anomaly that resets time again and again...
It was "the one" that reset the Matrix over and over. Neo was "something new" that ended the Matrix.
@@jamesjtechnic1196 obviously didn't end it, they're making another one. Can't stop time from rolling on...
Lads. The “one” refers to the non local singularity of consciousness... meaning no matter what form or function the energy of the universe takes (me or you) the it is viewed through the same consciousness... basically we’re all the same person and humanity doesn’t know it.... yet 👽👍
Yes, but Ryan just pointed out that instead of the Architect scene in Matrix, think about Willy Wonka.
Kang even mimics the Willy Wonka meme in this episode *wink wink*
Determinism vs freewill physicists been arguing about these two issues.
Been arguing? Like forever?
Quantum theory is the new time travel. It’s been in like multiple shows and movies recently lol very cool. (DEVS, ant man, lovecraft, watchmen,etc)
Time is just a concept and how we explain atoms or objects moving from one place to another in our limited reality created by eyesight.
Time doest actually exist and the only possible way to 'time travel' would be to move every atom in the universe to its previous position. While not impossible theoretically the task would be literally astronomical to track every atom. Nevermind move them to the correct position.
If multiverse is created cuz of 1 individual dicision that mean thr will be infinite multiverse cuz of dicision made by other multiverse individual.
@@KayJay940 Einstein would disagree
What a great ending! But, I was secretly hoping for a show where Mobius and Loki travel through time and solve time crimes/mysteries/ anomalies... guess I'm a time fascist myself! XD
Yes please ❤❤❤
They could probably still do that! Like in order to defeat the multi-villains they have to go undercover into their story to discover crucial clues from their past.
So, basically Loki Doctor Who
I just thought that explaining the mcu to my friends is already pretty complicated. Now how the f am I going to explain them the multiverse/multiversal wars/the concept of time, and how every character fits into this and why there’s spider-pig all the sudden. Jesus.
You don't, they should watch it all 😂
@@ivyVaughn I tried to force my grandma...
I think this final showcase some of tom hiddleston best acting so far.
This episode blew my mind. What if Sylvie sent Loki back to the TVA in the past, a previous iteration of the TVA, perhaps?
This was my immediate thought when I saw it. Maybe Kang's timepad thingie was already set to send Loki to a previous TVA (before the creation of the time keepers, hence Kang's statue) so that he can fix the sacred timeline from there.
@@Victfil I think that Loki was sent to one of the branches in the timeline, the Mobius we know and love is probably in a different timeline and Loki has to somehow find a way to find Mobius or bring the timeline back in a way that allows some free will? That is probably impossible though.
Miss Minutes has talked about her boss being the "Time keepers" and "He who remains".
I think the TVA is like an infinite number of repeating copies of the same TVA workers. Every time there's a new timeline, a new copy of the TVA has to be made to police it. There's no way Loki walked all over every floor of the TVA that he could see. The other floors were labeled other things like TSY and TE7 and 372, and then Mobius said "what division are you from?". And then there were all the rings on the wood table that were supposedly all from Mobius.
I think there's only 1 TVA, because it's a place outside the multiverse and time, but it has a room or area for each universe in the multiverse, and each branching timeline. I think the Kang statue is just the wrong block in a city.
@@r2dxhate Ok You maybe onto something right here, I'm listening!
@@deepsoul7418 I dunno, I'm just spitballing ideas to see what sticks. Maybe I'm totally wrong. Maybe the statue in the TVA is always the previous ruler of the TVA. When Kang killed the time keepers, they became the statues. When Slyvie killed Kang, kang becomes the statue.
Or maybe because the TVA is outside time, there's no wait time for corrections in the timeline. If we saw all those kang timelines branching off, as if a bunch of versions of kang are coming to take the throne of he who remains or immortus, then maybe one of the new Kangs already made it to the end and became the new ruler at the end of time, and then that naturally changed the beginning of the TVA. Like maybe whoever ends up sitting in that castle at that end of time, creates a feedback loop of them becoming the new creator of the TVA...
It's either that, or we have to assume there's multiple TVA's. Which doesn't really make sense if they are policing the multiverse as a whole. But maybe it's explainable if the space lizards just controlling one large branch, and offer immortus his own branch, but no one is allowed to disrupt the tree trunk itself or the roots, or the other sacred branches.
If there's multiple TVA's then how are they in a dimension that's beyond time? How many pocket dimensions are there? Why aren't the TVA's competing with each other?
“He Who Remains”. Hm, the Lokis’ defining characteristic after being pruned is that they survive. Curious if that’s in the middle of this knot.
Ikr? Just like the ending of Dark.
The golden cracks in the castle at the end of time are very likely a reference to Japanese art of Kintsugi (金継ぎ), which itself refers to Mushin (無心) philosophy.
One way to say that any branches (cracks) are in the end all parts of the same reality, and that fate is predetermined.
You did this before these movies even came out and called it perfectly
Loki most likely ended up in a variant timeline where it was known that Immortus/Kang controlled the TVA instead of the lie about the Space Liza... I mean Time Keepers.
Umm yeah the big statue of Kang at the end kind of gave that away.
@@briengakaplan-b1550 Not everyone did, though.
@@spacecowboy2957 Sylvie used the One Who Remains bracelet to send him there. He's the only one with the power to travel thru multi verses, I don't think she sent him there intentionally she just didn't know she had that kind of power in her hands. She was thinking of TVA headquarters she just picked the wrong one.
@@briengakaplan-b1550 Maybe. But we won't know unTIL SEASON 2 DAMMIT!!!
The TVA was supposed to be beyond time and the multiverse. How could there be multiple TVA's?
Kang doesn’t give af anymore, he could’ve stopped his own death but was so chill
He's probably died so many times he doesn't even care anymore. He knows he's somehow going to come back and i guess that's why hes just chillin eating apples and acting a little insane
@@shina1399 He did say he'd see Sylvie again and that he would return and be reincarnated. I wouldn't be scared of dying either if I knew that I would just come back in a different loop.
A great episode but... The ending was so sad for Loki! 😭
I really liked the ending. Kang came across as crazy, but I could see why - he's been alive for God knows how many years.
Any thoughts on Loki season 2 - could we see Loki battling himself and Sylvie in order to unpick what's just happened, or at least planting the seeds to whatever ends the war?
Omg the hey y’all was the most successful MCU jumpscare EVER
Like jeeeeeeeeez
The best jumpscare in the history of jumpscares
Coincidentally Deadpool and Korg had a video together.... seems intentional
Somehow fan videos had better CGI than that deadpool video.
@@r2dxhate what??? Korg and Deadpool were both spot on??
@@trippytimesjosh355 Actually I think you're right. The video I watched seemed to have the audio slightly out of sync or something.
@@r2dxhate oh, I was thinking damn Korg looks great. You know Marvel gave them permission, or maybe even did it themselves. Korg is there IP, Deadpool now to really
@@trippytimesjosh355 Sorry my bad. I saw it on Emergency Awesome, and I still say the audio looks off or something in their clips of it. It looked fine on Ryan Reynolds channel tho.
Yesss!!! Just finished the previous video. Couldn't wait for your explanation as you explain the best!! Thanks a ton!
My bet is that Majors will play Nathaniel Richards yet to be Kang in Quantumania. Perhaps just a cientist lost inside the Quantum Realm
I think the red line that kept the TVA worried when it's crossed would end up creating variants of the TVA itself.
My interpretation wasn’t that “He Who Remains” won the multiverse war, but instead found a way to shield this timeline from the others (that ring around him in the claymation reenactment). His death re-exposes it to the other multiverses, especially the one Kang The Conquerer (evil version) rules over.
That’s where I think Sylvie sent Loki to - the mirror universe, where everyone has goatees and is evil. 😂
I’m excited tho, this totally makes sense going forwards (or, sideways?) in the MCU. With the next Spider-Man, Ant-Man and Doctor Strange movies all being about the multiverse, this will be the big thing in phase 4. That will bring us, finally, some good movies about the Fantastic Four and the X-Men. All things are as they should be. All is right with the world.
loki is the introducer of major villian. first he works for thanos . now introduce kang.
And he was the big bad for phase 1
I literally JUST watched Lovecraft Country!! I was so fricken happy to see Tic!! And Ruby too!!
OMG THAT IS RUBY!!!
that slow car chase scene in Lovecraft tho...
@@onetimebear5681 I freaking LOVED that silver car...lol and ohmygod the clothes!! Yeah, I just loved that whole show, the ending had me crying all over the place lol...and those two actors were then perfectly cast for this show...Lol good for them, get some of that Marvel money😂😊👍👍
Why no comparison to the Ancient One never being able to see past that one moment?
Because she couldn’t see past her own death
@@mikebrowne4289 now the question is if Dr. Strange can see into different timeliness....
@@ny2354 It will be interesting how they explain that since the time stone doesn't exist anymore...
@@halbouma6720 he can probably pick up one from the TVA, plus a few spare ones if he loses one again
@@MerijnH I don't see how a Loki could not pocket a few of those stones and hide them like his daggers. Surely you'd want them for whenever you're in a universe.
The editing the theories, very sound, very good video!
Hands down the best channel at explaining the MCU and Marvel comics!
Sylvie: stabs Immortis...
Bill Duke: ya know ya done fucked up right?!
Zoidberg: what have you done!?
Would you not rather have free will even if it means possible destruction.
Basically the entire universe is like the puppets wanda was controlling.
No one would want that. Just to stay alive thats not living.
@@KayJay940 illusion of freewill =\= slavery/mind controlled
@@e3vL1 taxes = voluntary slavery.
Especially when every politician lives in a mansion.
Obi-Wan: You were the chosen one!!!
I just assumed that the last Mobius that appeared was a variant that didn’t knew our Loki
I think you're right.
I am obsessed with your breakdowns they are phenomenal I couldn’t help but think after watching Loki finale, seeing the fear in Loki‘s eyes after meeting He Who Remains/other names. He was more terrified then when he saw Thanos. It’s all started to remind me of the movie Tenant. I honestly can’t wait to see what
Silvie : kills kang
Loki : Nooooooooooo I don't wana be in that wizards movie
Not a theory, or advice, or idea. But I would be so happy to see Tobey as Spidey again.
I would have given anything for there to be a little scene where Kang went for a meal at the Restaurant At The End Of The Universe
I was thinking that from the time that He Who Remains stopped knowing what was happening and the timelines started branching, that's when Kang took over the TVA and because time works differently there, by the time that Sylvie sent Loki back there it was already taken over and completely changed the workers were already reset
Nope
Why can he not just be in a different alternate timeline? That thing was branching like mad before Sylvie ever pushed him through the door.
@@ScarletVoodoo because I thought the tva existed outside of the timeline?
@@jessicawinchester158 That's what they told us but who knows? The TVA thought 3 giant space Lizards were controlling time and created them, so I don't find their narrative very reliable.
I’ve really enjoyed watching the Loki series, thought it was really well done, best spin-off I’ve seen in SGS by far. My only critique, if you will; Why is it this Kang character had to be from Earth? Of all the worlds we’ve seen in Guardians of the Galaxy, Thor, Avengers etc why couldn’t he had been from another world? The people where Thanos originated from were super advanced, why not one of them, it would’ve made sense in way?
Because we are made in the image of the lord
And humans are the most frightening creatures
But creatures that have the most hope
Coz Earth is the shit.
🤯🤯🤯🤯 this is the start of another 10 year string of movies that ends in another “ENDGAME” which was the best movie I’ve EVER seen! Love this stuff!!