Tadano interests me as a character. Like, I agree with him ideologically, and we generally share the same desire for the future. But his methodology is... Not great. Rather than rallying the people to create change themselves while providing the resources needed for them to do it, he's just sort of forcing expectations on to others and trying to do everything himself. Whether he intends it or not, he presents himself as sort of a higher-than-thou ruler who knows what's best for the working class, which... Is not chill. And those character flaws really show in his relationship with Retsi. While it seems like he has good intentions, the results of his actions are to baby Retsi into a state of passiveness. He isn't really encouraging her to have her own agency, stand up for herself, communicate with others... If anything he's sheltering her, which leaves her vulnerable to potential abuse. He needs to get on the level of the average person, understand their struggles, and work to get society at large on board with him, rather than trying to drag them along. Only then could he truly work to create the world he desires. Otherwise he's just taking away jobs and leaving people confused and broke.
I agree on you to the extent, but he WAS trying. For example, he took driver’s ed classes to see how easy it is to get a driver’s license. He didn’t understand basic instructions such as turning left to make sure you won’t hit a motorcycle. Tadano wants to do things his way or no way at all. Kinda has a Steve Jobs creativity with a mixture of Bill Gates’s manipulative methods.
@@ADJackD Me who originally wrote this as an anti-state anarchist (not currently because politics stress me the fuck out and I avoid them when not relevant to my own well being and the well being of those around me): “Yes.”
WAIT WHAT THE FUCK? He doesn't say anything like this in the japanese. He talks about a libertarian state where people are free to put their skills and interests into jobs that suit them, and do work that they want to do. How the fuck did localization turn this into "Hippedy Hoppity, Abolish Private Property?"
Better fitting meter isn't an excuse for such drastic changes in meaning IMO. I like a few of the changed lines in my favorite movie while others are disgustingly weaker. But I also buy way more into the English actress as the lead. And that thing with Dragon Maid trying to be woke... I guess my point is I'm usually fine with dubbing but it's such a quality gamble for no good reason.
Yes, i dont get why they put him as a communist, because he incentives people to do other things and be free and happier, he didn't say people need to gain things for free, i wont extend my point but those guys got it all wrong.
@@Lucios1995 Miss Kobayasi's Dragon Maid is a comedy anime from a few years ago. There is a scene in which one character asks another why she is wearing a less revealing outfit than usual. In the original japanese the line that follows is "because people were staring." The writer for the English dub, however, changed the line to "those pesky patriarchal demands were getting in the way."
Honestly...I woulda gotten with the billionaire communist. I'm so proud of Retsie for sticking with her guns but also...any altruistic, slef-made billionaire communists my age could hmu
It can't really be communism because that system still requires people to work. What he wants seems to be a world where labor is entirely optional for everyone to the point that absolutely no one has to work if they don't want to. That's not really an economic system at all since economics are how we put value on labor.
As a centrist, I always thought the only way communism would ever become a thing is through technological progress. A.Is and robots basically taking care of us. A long shot by all means which could turn in some kind of Skynet I suppose, but there's always the slight chance it might turn out good. So I believe he's on the right track and I could get behind his motives, frankly.
Hadn't Marx himself actually stated something along the lines of that? Where a fully-realized and "True" Communism would only be achievable if technology would effectively handle more menial labor? I feel like I may have read that...
@@The-Plaguefellow I remember reading that as well in the Manifesto, vaguely however. Though, seeing the way things are going, I get the feeling things will steer towards a global oligopoly with us becoming disposable wage slaves. Kinda like that movie Elysium. That A.I would need to come out of nowhere, assume control and be both mortal and virtuous in nature. Because I don't believe us as humans could achieve this alone. We're too flawed for this.
@@TheMudDragon I've always imagined it would need to be something in lines of how AI took care of the human race in WallE. But even that was weird because there was a corporation controlling everything, but seemingly no people owning the corporation?
@@jacobg8640 I assume corporations owned by people would eventually be bought and managed by the A.I itself, keeping both name and brand, at least for some time, before everything sortof merges seamlessly together under a single entity.
You know tadano’s idea of making humanity better won’t work if anything it would actually make things worse because a lot of people would lose their jobs because machines would take them and they can’t get new ones because they don’t have the skills to do it
@@thevioletbee5879 But then tech companies would have a chokehold on everything, the governments would ally with them so most ordinary people would be powerless and, therefore, helpless against inevitable corruption.
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Damn Tadano, went from 0 to Communism real fast there
Griffin Burns must have been typecasted as a socialist/communist character in anime/games. First Tadano, now Childe from Genshin Impact.
When Childe calls us commarade
@@xVadRay Birthday voice line
*top 10 animes that prevented a war*
If this is what the face of communism looks like I'm all for it lol
Councilman Tadano ftw!
so what was the edit?
The Russian anthem faintly plays until its full volume at the end
@@huluandebayman r/woooosh
@@huluandebayman Bruh
@@jillg4959 oh, but they explain it nicely, I won't r/wooosh them lol
Tadano interests me as a character. Like, I agree with him ideologically, and we generally share the same desire for the future. But his methodology is... Not great. Rather than rallying the people to create change themselves while providing the resources needed for them to do it, he's just sort of forcing expectations on to others and trying to do everything himself. Whether he intends it or not, he presents himself as sort of a higher-than-thou ruler who knows what's best for the working class, which... Is not chill. And those character flaws really show in his relationship with Retsi. While it seems like he has good intentions, the results of his actions are to baby Retsi into a state of passiveness. He isn't really encouraging her to have her own agency, stand up for herself, communicate with others... If anything he's sheltering her, which leaves her vulnerable to potential abuse. He needs to get on the level of the average person, understand their struggles, and work to get society at large on board with him, rather than trying to drag them along. Only then could he truly work to create the world he desires. Otherwise he's just taking away jobs and leaving people confused and broke.
Yeah, that's why some started to dislike him.
I agree on you to the extent, but he WAS trying. For example, he took driver’s ed classes to see how easy it is to get a driver’s license. He didn’t understand basic instructions such as turning left to make sure you won’t hit a motorcycle. Tadano wants to do things his way or no way at all. Kinda has a Steve Jobs creativity with a mixture of Bill Gates’s manipulative methods.
Exactly, he's a billionaire who thinks he's based
But that’s exactly what communism strives for in the end nobody independent all dependent on the state, Tadano basically incarnation of Communism
@@ADJackD Me who originally wrote this as an anti-state anarchist (not currently because politics stress me the fuck out and I avoid them when not relevant to my own well being and the well being of those around me): “Yes.”
WAIT WHAT THE FUCK? He doesn't say anything like this in the japanese. He talks about a libertarian state where people are free to put their skills and interests into jobs that suit them, and do work that they want to do. How the fuck did localization turn this into "Hippedy Hoppity, Abolish Private Property?"
i don't know but it owns
Better fitting meter isn't an excuse for such drastic changes in meaning IMO. I like a few of the changed lines in my favorite movie while others are disgustingly weaker. But I also buy way more into the English actress as the lead. And that thing with Dragon Maid trying to be woke... I guess my point is I'm usually fine with dubbing but it's such a quality gamble for no good reason.
Yes, i dont get why they put him as a communist, because he incentives people to do other things and be free and happier, he didn't say people need to gain things for free, i wont extend my point but those guys got it all wrong.
@@supersnackbros2423 Dragon Maid?
@@Lucios1995
Miss Kobayasi's Dragon Maid is a comedy anime from a few years ago. There is a scene in which one character asks another why she is wearing a less revealing outfit than usual. In the original japanese the line that follows is "because people were staring." The writer for the English dub, however, changed the line to "those pesky patriarchal demands were getting in the way."
ok childe
Now he truly is perfect
Honestly...I woulda gotten with the billionaire communist.
I'm so proud of Retsie for sticking with her guns but also...any altruistic, slef-made billionaire communists my age could hmu
Just cuz it ain't capitlism doesn't mean it's instantly communism x'D There are other things out there.
It can't really be communism because that system still requires people to work. What he wants seems to be a world where labor is entirely optional for everyone to the point that absolutely no one has to work if they don't want to. That's not really an economic system at all since economics are how we put value on labor.
@@jacobg8640communism end game is no work
Our comrade Tadano
Why is Tadano so cute
Agreed mr pupmask user.
Boom. Exposed furry. 😎
Communism for the win
oh man that just got dark
The music and flag
0:35 listen closely
There is a spectre haunting Europe
THIS IS THE REAL DIALOGUE? AHAHAHAH
Knowing the va from a russian inspired character and seeing this is just amazing
ikr ❤
I had been watching in Japanese, if I knew Tadano is Tartaglia, I would have been watching in English 😂
I just realized his ears are up there and the headphone is down there how is he supposed to hear
Come for youtube for that exact meme. I'm glad someone took some of their labor to do this
I love this so much you don’t even know
Welcome comrade Tadano
Not gonna lie kinda true
RUSSIAN TADANO
Okay that is cursed
XD
As a centrist, I always thought the only way communism would ever become a thing is through technological progress. A.Is and robots basically taking care of us.
A long shot by all means which could turn in some kind of Skynet I suppose, but there's always the slight chance it might turn out good.
So I believe he's on the right track and I could get behind his motives, frankly.
Hadn't Marx himself actually stated something along the lines of that? Where a fully-realized and "True" Communism would only be achievable if technology would effectively handle more menial labor?
I feel like I may have read that...
@@The-Plaguefellow I remember reading that as well in the Manifesto, vaguely however.
Though, seeing the way things are going, I get the feeling things will steer towards a global oligopoly with us becoming disposable wage slaves. Kinda like that movie Elysium.
That A.I would need to come out of nowhere, assume control and be both mortal and virtuous in nature.
Because I don't believe us as humans could achieve this alone. We're too flawed for this.
@@TheMudDragon I've always imagined it would need to be something in lines of how AI took care of the human race in WallE. But even that was weird because there was a corporation controlling everything, but seemingly no people owning the corporation?
@@jacobg8640 I assume corporations owned by people would eventually be bought and managed by the A.I itself, keeping both name and brand, at least for some time, before everything sortof merges seamlessly together under a single entity.
And that's the moment I saw a huge red flag.
Bye bye Tadano, you're not a husbando anymore.
No
Captialism has left the chat
Jajajaj xD
God dammit japan not this again want a third one?
I swear to God, if we have to bring back the goddamn Manhattan Project
@@louisryan5815
The Brooklyn Project.
This time featuring space lasers!
Oh my god I realised where OP's pfp is from
Lol 😆
xdddddd
Leave it to Americans to think any proposition that remotely criticizes the system is Communism
Hey! I'm an American and I hate capitalism
I am Polish, not American, and I thought so as well
I had also read marxist literature and I just see Todano is almost quoting it
💙USSR💙
He's dead in America
I wish that they would be together but there not 😫😫😫
tadano is the embodiment of everything that's wrong with modern western socialism
but he's also a cool character, ngl
[straps on a parachute] Well, Tad, it's been fun!
You know tadano’s idea of making humanity better won’t work if anything it would actually make things worse because a lot of people would lose their jobs because machines would take them and they can’t get new ones because they don’t have the skills to do it
That's the point. He's trying to remove the need for most jobs.
@@thevioletbee5879 But then tech companies would have a chokehold on everything, the governments would ally with them so most ordinary people would be powerless and, therefore, helpless against inevitable corruption.
@@jonquilgemstone You say that as if tech companies don’t already have a chokehold on our lives.
I hate Tadano. He just bugs the shit out of me
But Why?