Every time I hear your Panther 2T it starts me pining for my beloved James Superswift that stupidly I sold many years ago and have missed every day since. Your 2T engine note is exactly the same as mine was,,,, and mine was a fly machine too if you wanted it to be. I dream on through your videos 😢😢
The beauty of those little 2 stroke engines is properly looked after using the right mix they give good performance for their time and are very reliable they don’t sound too bad either 👌
I had a Sun motorcycle fitted with Armstrong leading link forks and the Villiers 2T engine and I loved it - I remember swapping out the 2T engine for the Villiers 4T engine which was slightly more powerful due to the extra two transfer ports but I preferred the 2T engine and swapped them back around. The 2T sounded fabulous but I liked the two exhaust pipes on mine. Don't even remember what happened to it.
Wonderful video as usual and great to see you back in the saddle with your usual smile. I have had to stop riding my Mod 35 - the most enjoyable and reliable Panther I ever owned and your ride brings a lump to the throat.
I felt the wind in me own hair with this ride. A Cracking little bike on many levels. You certainly had your fun on that day. Most enjoyable. Thank you.
Cracking bike, fascinating contrast to the other Panther products. Really liked the way you mounted the magnet for the speedo, ingenious. Language is a fascinating study particularly how phrases can have radically altered meanings in two communities separated by A county or even parish boundary. I felt for the earnest young man after he rashly bragged he’d ’got off with a bird last night’ , it meant something far more intimate in Hampshire than it did in Wiltshire. His woes were compounded by the presence of the man currently paying her court. I welcome the words and phrases of an earlier epoch for me they have an elegance and brevity often missing in more modern language.
It was tempting to say Just Stop Oiling at the over-filled chain case. I like the incongruity of a racing seat and rear rack, it's what gives a bike character.
Hello Jonathan, Firstly I must thank you for your smashing videos and how much I enjoy watching them, I know Josh very well and think I could follow your route from Waresley. I also own a vintage motorcycle and enjoy the odd evening run out but boy am I looking forward to my retirement when I can attend the weekday runs..... and complete my projects. Many thanks, Rgds, Peter.
Such a pretty machine Jonathan , ridden in very familiar territory !.Memories of a friend in the mid-60s with an equally scarce Ambassdor tuned 2T Electra 75 , my T20 Tiger Cub was no match for it !.
I really enjoyed the vignette into this villiers bike. I don't remember this marque at all. The electric start was pretty far ahead of its time I think particularly with no kick backup. I had an RD350 way back in the day and really enjoyed it when it ran right which was sadly, not always. This little bike sounds great.
The contribution that two-stroke motorcycles make to air pollution must be totally negligible because there are so few of them, and there always were. Your bike is lovely, sounds good too. Great video, thanks.
That was good buy back when Pride and Clarke were selling them CHEAP in their adverts in Motorcycle Weekly, on their big weekly adverts in 1966. I had a much older 197 panther that was intent on killing me at every chance.
Putting a dab of white paint on the centre of tyre and then rolling the bike as you did and then measuring between the paint prints on the floor is my preferred method, my cycle computer reads up to 100mph and then just displays three dashes, not that this would be an issue on most Villiers engined machines 🙂👍
I had one of these exact same bikes with the electric start ect. I remember it had low gearing to the first 3 gears and quite a spec to 4 th . I saw 80 mph on the speedo onetime . I preferred it to the Ariel Arrow I owned , it had higher top speed,and had more .torque
You have that 2T engine running as sweet as a nut ! Loved the video as always but wouldn’t have minded seeing a few more minutes devoted to the tractors !
Pretty much in theme with everyone else, lovely sound. But that speedo ! Wouldn’t a Bantam speedo or the like fit. Keep posting, we are just about neighbours. Kindest regards Dave
Another excellent video however the model 35 sounds very busy and I may prefer the 4 stoke singles for their soporific effect especially when equipped with a hand gear change option.
Hello Jonny. I personally have had little to do with UK bikes. I should have done though, due to me being a biker from the 70's over here in New Zealand. I actually worked in a Yamaha dealership here, from 1975 through to 1990. Never had input from UK bikes. as all my riding was off-road racing. I currently have a Yamaha XV400, and a Jawa 638, 350cc twin. The Jawa and the XV seem to use the same amount of fuel to do what I do; as in riding on roads at around the 50 to 60 mph range, What kind of average speed will the Panther-Viliers-2T run at, and what kind of fuel burn? I am thinking of getting myself something like this for club rides. Cheers - - -Rick from New Zealand.
Two-strokes are not for everyone Rick but with your background you'll know what to expect. My rides are often with a mixed group when speeds are generally in the 40 to 50mph range but the Villiers 2t is easily capable of 55 to 60 cruising, the limit on single carriageway roads in the UK. The short earlier video: 'Panther Model 35 es' sees it on a dual-carriageway at around 70mph. I have recorded 54mpg in mixed riding but it does tend to sling an increasing quantity of fuel (and smoke!) straight through at the higher speeds.
Every time I hear your Panther 2T it starts me pining for my beloved James Superswift that stupidly I sold many years ago and have missed every day since. Your 2T engine note is exactly the same as mine was,,,, and mine was a fly machine too if you wanted it to be. I dream on through your videos 😢😢
That little villiers loves to rev, sounds sweet. Beautifully narrated as usual. I am still getting over the shock of a digital speedo on a panther 😁
I don't think I've heard a two-stroke that sounded that good. A pleasure to watch and listen to, as ever.
The beauty of those little 2 stroke engines is properly looked after using the right mix they give good performance for their time and are very reliable they don’t sound too bad either 👌
What a sweet sounding machine, bring back good memories some 49 years ago!!!!!!
Thanks for the spirited ride home..wonderful.
I had a Sun motorcycle fitted with Armstrong leading link forks and the Villiers 2T engine and I loved it - I remember swapping out the 2T engine for the Villiers 4T engine which was slightly more powerful due to the extra two transfer ports but I preferred the 2T engine and swapped them back around. The 2T sounded fabulous but I liked the two exhaust pipes on mine. Don't even remember what happened to it.
Always nice to see another video from you, either riding, or on the spanners. Your recollection of the guy in the shop made me chuckle.
Wonderful video as usual and great to see you back in the saddle with your usual smile. I have had to stop riding my Mod 35 - the most enjoyable and reliable Panther I ever owned and your ride brings a lump to the throat.
I felt the wind in me own hair with this ride. A Cracking little bike on many levels. You certainly had your fun on that day. Most enjoyable. Thank you.
Yet another excellent video, the little Panther zips along.
Cracking bike, fascinating contrast to the other Panther products. Really liked the way you mounted the magnet for the speedo, ingenious. Language is a fascinating study particularly how phrases can have radically altered meanings in two communities separated by A county or even parish boundary. I felt for the earnest young man after he rashly bragged he’d ’got off with a bird last night’ , it meant something far more intimate in Hampshire than it did in Wiltshire. His woes were compounded by the presence of the man currently paying her court. I welcome the words and phrases of an earlier epoch for me they have an elegance and brevity often missing in more modern language.
Sounds great!! Long live the Strokers!! TZR owner.(, ex -Panther 2t owner )😃
It was tempting to say Just Stop Oiling at the over-filled chain case. I like the incongruity of a racing seat and rear rack, it's what gives a bike character.
Hello Jonathan,
Firstly I must thank you for your smashing videos and how much I enjoy watching them, I know Josh very well and think I could follow your route from Waresley.
I also own a vintage motorcycle and enjoy the odd evening run out but boy am I looking forward to my retirement when I can attend the weekday runs..... and complete my projects.
Many thanks,
Rgds, Peter.
Thankyou for another wonderful video!
HI JJ GOOD TIME AD BY ALL NICE BIKE SOUNDS BANG ON THANKS FOR THE RIDE WITH YOU CANT WAIT FOR NEXT TIME CHEERS STAY SAFE OUT THERE
Such a pretty machine Jonathan , ridden in very familiar territory !.Memories of a friend in the mid-60s with an equally scarce Ambassdor tuned 2T Electra 75 , my T20 Tiger Cub was no match for it !.
I have owned a few and that has got to be one of the sweetest sounding 2 strokes I've ever heard
I love the sound of that villiers twin that bike is a credit too you sir well done.
I like the windshield, just the right proportions, I suppose its home made, very well done
Sounds really sweet, and the electric start is a bonus. Great video again. Thanks.
Poetry. In Motion.
Thanks for taking me along. Lemay Nelson. Vancouver. Washington pacific northwest. USA.
I really enjoyed the vignette into this villiers bike. I don't remember this marque at all. The electric start was pretty far ahead of its time I think particularly with no kick backup. I had an RD350 way back in the day and really enjoyed it when it ran right which was sadly, not always. This little bike sounds great.
Wow, that sounds lovely!
The contribution that two-stroke motorcycles make to air pollution must be totally negligible because there are so few of them, and there always were. Your bike is lovely, sounds good too. Great video, thanks.
That looks to have a lot more "Go" about it than my old MK1H 225cc Ambassador Supreme 1954 vintage.
I'm amazed the Dynastart works. I've seen quite a few Japanese bikes that the starter wouldn't work.
Then I noticed where the start switch is.
That was good buy back when Pride and Clarke were selling them CHEAP in their adverts in Motorcycle Weekly, on their big weekly adverts in 1966. I had a much older 197 panther that was intent on killing me at every chance.
Putting a dab of white paint on the centre of tyre and then rolling the bike as you did and then measuring between the paint prints on the floor is my preferred method, my cycle computer reads up to 100mph and then just displays three dashes, not that this would be an issue on most Villiers engined machines 🙂👍
I had a Norman Villiers B4 sport with the Villiers 250T engine...I wish my engine had sounded as sweet as your one..
I had one of these exact same bikes with the electric start ect. I remember it had low gearing to the first 3 gears and quite a spec to 4 th . I saw 80 mph on the speedo onetime . I preferred it to the Ariel Arrow I owned , it had higher top speed,and had more .torque
You have that 2T engine running as sweet as a nut ! Loved the video as always but wouldn’t have minded seeing a few more minutes devoted to the tractors !
Pretty much in theme with everyone else, lovely sound. But that speedo ! Wouldn’t a Bantam speedo or the like fit. Keep posting, we are just about neighbours. Kindest regards Dave
When one knows something is right -- .
Another excellent video however the model 35 sounds very busy and I may prefer the 4 stoke singles for their soporific effect especially when equipped with a hand gear change option.
Hello Jonny. I personally have had little to do with UK bikes. I should have done though, due to me being a biker from the 70's over here in New Zealand.
I actually worked in a Yamaha dealership here, from 1975 through to 1990. Never had input from UK bikes. as all my riding was off-road racing.
I currently have a Yamaha XV400, and a Jawa 638, 350cc twin.
The Jawa and the XV seem to use the same amount of fuel to do what I do; as in riding on roads at around the 50 to 60 mph range,
What kind of average speed will the Panther-Viliers-2T run at, and what kind of fuel burn?
I am thinking of getting myself something like this for club rides.
Cheers - - -Rick from New Zealand.
Two-strokes are not for everyone Rick but with your background you'll know what to expect. My rides are often with a mixed group when speeds are generally in the 40 to 50mph range but the Villiers 2t is easily capable of 55 to 60 cruising, the limit on single carriageway roads in the UK. The short earlier video: 'Panther Model 35 es' sees it on a dual-carriageway at around 70mph. I have recorded 54mpg in mixed riding but it does tend to sling an increasing quantity of fuel (and smoke!) straight through at the higher speeds.
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I had a mate who put a 2T in a Honda monkey bike back in the day
HAY BUB I ROAD A VILLERS POLICE BIKE IT NEVER GAVE ME ANY PROBLEMS. F O R TWO STROKE OIL. I USED. POLLY OXIED NRVER HAD MUCH PROBLEMS A ITH IT.
I seem to have a memory of the Villiers 2T engine being able to start in reverse. Or maybe I am thinking of another Villiers engine ?
Yes I have a similar memory and if memory serves me right it happened when the woodruff key became damaged and altered the timing slightly.
I thought it may have been something to do with the range of the advance/retard lever position.@@william4691
good grief Jonathan!
Why not introduce us to the other bikes on the ride if not the riders as well ?
Oodels. Is not old I’ve used it also. Lemay. Nelson. Vancouver. Washington. Pacific Northwest.
So Jaqueline my question is: Does the oodle have an equivalent quantity in any other system of measures?