The Movies That Influenced Star Wars
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- The Movies That Influenced Star Wars.
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I think a movie called "Rogue One" definitely influenced the first movie. The plot almost seems like it's a continuation of that movie.
I’m waiting for that comment that thinks you’re serious.
@Elijah Neil ...You have me intrigued with this baffling concept.
Was shocked to see Peter Cushing in Star Wars 40 years after his performance in Rogue One. Total rip off
But it’s not nearly as good as its sequel. Thankfully a little show called Mandalorian did what this movie tried but much better.
They didn't seem so smart in Rogue One...I don't know why anyone thought they were boffins
One of my favourite parts from The Mandalorian Gallery series is Jon Favreau talking about how he didn't want to be influenced by Star Wars itself, but by what influenced George himself, he wanted to think like the master.
That's how storytelling should work.
Pity JJ Abrams didn't approach The Force Awakens with that same philosophy. Better yet new Star Wars filmmakers shouldn't just be asking what George Lucas was influenced by but what influences them too.
@@fightingirish5755 I see this problem much more with TROS than TFA especially after TLJ also had outside influences like Akira Kurosawa's Rana and Rashomon and even the Matrix.
Yea, then he wrote himself into a corner.
George Lucas was also primarily inspired by "Dune".
Strange that there wasn't a proper dune movie,the new one by Denis Villeneuve looks promising tho.
Anonymous Human9999 I think it’s because Dune is very...dense in its writing. You are privy to everyone’s thoughts, their history, and their plans. Then you got the fantastical elements. It’s kind of like Watchmen, it had the this reputation of being unadaptable, even though there are adaptations.
Lucas was also totally influenced by Scott Card’s Enders Game (but think about the buggers and the Geonosians) (and yeah, Dune is infinitely better....)
There would have been a proper dune movie if they gave David Lynch full creative control
3 years later and Dune Part 1 + 2 some of the greatest movies of this century lol
If this were to happen today there would be hoards of people calling Disney thieves for even taking inspiration from something
Was it started when The Lion King was released at theaters in 1992 when the director claimed it's an original film but they ripped off it from Kimba the White Lion?
@@DigiPen92 The Lion King is also just Hamlet with lions
Watching YMS counts as research these days.
There are. For example, The Last Jedi borrows shot compositions from the throne room in The Wizard of Oz, suggesting that, like the Wizard, Snoke was a red herring, and not the great and powerful wizard we all assumed him to be. So naturally, we had people whining that Rian Johnson plagiarized The Wizard of Oz because he used a visual parallel to a similar story beat from another work, conveniently forgetting that the original Star Wars was a massive pile of homages stitched together in a new and exciting way.
There were a healthy amount of direct homages to Oz in TFA as well. And Lucas has cited the movie as an inspiration for a lot of the aesthetics of Star Wars. I mean just look at 3PO and Chewie and tell me Tin Man and Cowardly Lion weren’t going through George’s head when he came up with their looks.
I would like to point out a couple things kinda missed. -The Galactic Empire’s symbol is near identical to the wheel emblem of the villains in The Hidden Fortress.
-A good portion of ANH was inspired by the Japanese cartoon Space Battleship Yamato, with a planet-destroying superweapon, WW2-style dogfights, and a domed robot with treads, gadgets, and a mouth.
-As an homage to the fact that the first movie was heavily inspired by Space Battleship Yamato, JJ made the beginning of TFA an homage to Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, going so far as to have Rey’s speeder do a mirror image of Nausicaa’s flying machine take off.
Now i get why when i watched Nausicaa for the first time i couldn't stop comparing her introduction scene to Rey's
Rian Johnson further built upon Lucas' Kirusawa fandom when he included the Rashoman (3 sided story) feature in episode 8 when discussing Kylo Ren destroying Luke's temple.
It is also inspired by Akira Kurosawa's Ran.
The Battle of Yavin sequence owes a lot to the final battle in "The Dam Busters."
Also, TPM was clearly influenced by "Ben-Hur" while TLJ was clearly influenced by "Rashomon."
There were a few WW2 dogfight films that served as not only inspiration, but study and reference material for the Battle of Yavin. All spliced together for the ILM guys to have a better grasp of an air battle.
Absolutely Rashomon, but it's not even it's biggest influence from the works of Kurosawa. That Movie is Ikiru meets Ran with sprinkles of Rashomon and just a pinch of Seven Samurai.
It goes on: the Gungans riding out of the mist on kaadu in Phantom Menace is another direct lift from Hidden Fortress
John Ford's the Searchers was also a direct influence on Anakin's search for his mother and the Tusken camp scene in Attack of the Clones and Order 66 has similiarities to the scenes of assasination at the end of The Godfather.
TLJ is also influenced by The Wizard of Oz for pretty much everything involving Snoke.
Now I want to see the Hidden Fortress...
Watch it, it's really great and has similiar pacing to Star Wars.
Just watch all Kurosawa.
The movie “the dam busters” is practically copied in the battle of the first Death Star
I love how this how video about repeating ideas basically repeats all the ideas from a documentary called "Everything's a Remix" - which is also about repeating ideas
0:21 Short Answer: No
Im a stop-motion animator and almost everyone starts with lego star wars (me) or lego batman or spider-man (depending on preference).
Good to see the whole stormtrooper outfit again
The Hidden Fortress was even subliminally mentioned in A New Hope by Admiral Motti
Great analysis, thanks. New movies tend to be inspired by older movies. You can see A New Hope influence in Top Gun Maverick. Trench run, hidden bad guy base, bad guys will wipe out a people. Trench run has guns positioned and enemy fighters scrambling. Critical shot is a small vent that requires human skill and instict over computer programming.😄
Greedo you actually just gave me a place to have passionate discussions about the connections between Star Wars and Kurosawa on a channel where I feel safe... I love you
Don't forget the 7 Samurai
I love that people call Force Awakens a shot for shot remake of a new Hope when A New Hope took things from Flash Gordon, The Hidden Fortress, etc.
It's okay to take things from other great movies, but not to copy the story of another Star Wars movie because then it gets repetitive. That's why I didn't like TFA, although I love ANH.
Yeah but Lucas did it well, borrowing from the preceding vocabulary. JJA did a ham fisted remake with nothing new.
People also forget that subtext and themes exist.
The subtext and themes in TFA are wildly different than ANH for the most part.
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You can't do a shot for shot remake of multiple films lmao. Shot for shot remakes take one film and replicates it which is essentially what TFA did so those people are largely correct.
What influenced hello greedo?
I was so proud of myself when I started going to acting school and we were tasked to come up with a scene that has no words in it but has a background music. Of all the scenes my classmates did, mine was a unique one. My setting was an ice-skating rink (achieved by sliding on the floor in socks :D) with burlesque piano music in the background. Two years later I saw on TV that Charlie Chaplin also did an ice-skating scene and it even had some similar bits to what we did in my scene. But I swear, I haven't seen it before. :D The moral of the story: you can't possibly think of anything that hasn't been done before in some shape or form.
I haven’t seen it but I think Logan’s Run was also major source of inspiration for the first movie, mainly the trench run
You forgot Flight of the Dambusters, who’s mission is recreated in the attack on the Death Stars exhaust portal
10/10 video, Greedo. I always see videos discussing the movies Quentin Tarantino paid homage to, but never realized Lucas did that too!
I actually became a massive Kurosawa fan because of Star Wars. As a film fan whose passion grew by the day what inspired my favourite film franchise since before I can even remember was something that I was super interested in and Kurosawa was constantly brought up by Dave Filone or George himself. I mean constantly too, like the guys are obsessed it's great.
Eventually I was able to get my hands on a copy of Seven Samurai. I sat myself down prepared to watch it as kind of research, it was a roughly 3 hours and 20 minute black and white movie from the 50s that I'd have to read subtitles to understand. As a dyslexic that seemed like a lot of work, but I was still eager and excited from the passion I had for film and wether I enjoyed it or not I figured I'd appreciate it... so when I had an absolute blast watching it I was completely blown away. I was honestly just in love with it. I quickly got on to watching more and more Kurosawa films and now he's my favourite director ever.
Basically Star Wars set me up with on a date with Kurosawa films and I went to be nice and try it out and get to know someone I thought would probably be a lovely person all the same... and then proceeded to find the love of my life.
I love seeing the influence of Kurosawa in Star Wars and it's EVERYWHERE. The George Lucas films obviously, the Clone Wars has an episode straight up dedicated to him for his 100th birthday (and that was even the only time that season that directly stole a Kurosawa plot) and the Disney content today still hold strongly to that, particularly The Mandolorian and The Last Jedi feel like the products of Kurosawa fan clubs as The Mandolorian as whole is straight Yojimbo, the music has confirmed Kurosawa film inspirations and Chapter 4 is so Seven Samurai it's shameless about it, then The Last Jedi is a cross between Ikiru and Ran, with sprinkles of Rashomon and just a pinch of Seven Samurai.
I mean the list goes on and on. I could talk about everything from the Rebels episode Twin Suns to Embo's species name. Kurosawa is just in the DNA of Star Wars and honestly that only makes me love Star Wars more.
Every film that has the "gathering of heroes" theme from Oceans 11 to the Blues Brothers is ultimately influenced by The Seven Samurai.
i like how people don't blame star wars for copying flash Gordon yet they blame DC movies for copying Marvel movies even though they didn't
when will the war between marvel and DC end? the world may never know...
Ayham 4002 it depends on how it directs attention to the properties and make them profitable.
Tom Ffrench huh, that too.
yes I know but im talking about the people who literally say that every character is a rip off, there is a list on YT about people comparing characters that don't match up and saying they ripped off each other and people literally believe them despite there being no evidence
@Tom Ffrench have to admit. Star Wars continues to expand as a Fandom to this day.
Same can't be said for other fandoms. Sequel trilogy is a mess though. It's undeniable.
Another influence are the French comics Valerian and Laureline.
"Inspiration and influence makes its way in" reminds me of something I saw in this BBC4 music doc, Prog Rock Britannia (late '60s-'70s period). Robert Wyatt, drummer of Soft Machine and Matching Mole, put it this way:
"We were all stuck by pop music...and really, we just wanted to participate in it, but getting our little groups together our own dialects of other stuff we picked up crept into what we did. I'm playing beat drums, and I'm trying to sound like a rhythm-&-blues drummer, but I had been listening to all these sophisticated jazz drummers. I always felt cluttered w/ stuff! You can't pretend you haven't heard Elvin Jones if you have."
Why I hate the term Ripoff and prefer the term Inspired I hope Kathleen Kennedy and Michelle Rejwan are looking for creators inspired by Non-Star Wars films why Love Rian Johnson and TLJ and why A New Hope is still my favorite hopefully Taika waiti is the first step in that direction
TLJ's use of things that inspired Star Wars to inspire it is great. What I really love is who clever it is about it's inspiration.
Like ok so a large part of Star Wars is inspired by The Hidden Fortress and George's love of Kurosawa films? Well great. Ok so this film takes place with the classic heroes old now and the last film left off with a young optimistic girl seeking our old hero? OK well Kurosawa litterally has a film about an old man dealing with his own mortality who learns to live again through the help of a young optimistic girl called Ikiru! Great let's use that. Ok well one of Kurosawa's greatest films is Ran which is about an old man who gets consumed by regret and sorrow after his sons betray him... well great that's perfect let's use some of that too! OK but Star Wars is ultimately optimistic and should ultimate preach something positive... ok well let's use Ran as a basis to question the ideals of Star Wars, BUT THEN use Ikiru as a basis for character growth and development with it ultimately certifying the legacy of Star Wars and what it means to people. Then to ultimately express that the final shot of Luke in his last moments can take from the visual style of the endings shots of Ran as a blind man is left alone on a cliff, but flip it by using the positivity of Ikiru's beautiful final shots depicting a man happy and satisfied achieving a purpose as he dies, so Luke's completely uses that in his victory saving the future of the resistance and the galaxy as a true Jedi dying with "peace and purpose".
Ultimately it never uses straight 1 source, but rather multiple sources connected to the inspiration of the original while also new pieces and mixing them together in a piece that ultimately is not just inspired by but in some ways is a response to all the previously mentioned works especially Star Wars.
I mean I haven't even mention the clear Rashomon inspirations, how the Jedi plot is Kurosawa inspired while Resistance plot is classic Movie serial inspired (Buck Rodgers and Flash Gordon), then the Luke/Ben confrontation is a cross between Seven Samurai and A Beautiful Mind (A movie made by a close friend of George and sat in discussions with both George and Kurosawa). Like I love it so much!!!
spencer o'keeffe hey man, I just wanted to thank for sharing this information here
I didn't knew TLJ was this heavily influenced by those films, I mean, knowing this doesn't make the film scale on my personal Top of movies, but I can watch it again with other eyes and appreciate it a little bit more...I just want to jump 10-15 years in the future and see how the younger audience talks about the ST on the internet, just how the PT fans have been vocal about them and their movies
Thanks a bunch really, way too interesting to read this:)
@@LuisMasterXDRM97 You're welcome! As someone who loves the film I really can talk about it for ages. I don't get many opportunities to discuss the Kurosawa influences on TLJ except with my friends who just kinda have to put up with it. So I'm really glad you got something out of it. If you're interested in what the film means to me on a personal level I'd be more than happy to share that with you.
spencer o'keeffe in whichever form you are more comfortable to talk to me about it, I will listen. None of my friends are into Star Wars as much as I am, welp, I'm not a fan of TLJ, but I'm definitely open to listen all about it to see if I can learn something new about it:)
Exactly the biggest problem I have with "Disney Star Wars" is that it seems like most of it is not inspired by the ideals of the writers or by other media but just by Star Wars (especially the original trilogy) itself, with the excaption of The Last Jedi and The Mandalorian, which are obviously influenced by Star Wars but still have their own identety (Mandalorian being a western adventure and TLJ being influenced by Kursowa movies like "Ran", "Kagemusha" or "Rashomon").
Solo, Rogue One, TFA and TROS feel like they don't have a unique vision and identety and this feeling is just strengthened by all the references to other Star Wars media. I liked TFA and Rogue One a lot when I first saw them and the refrences didn't bother me because I thought it was just a phase in which they rediscover what Star Wars ment after a long time of not haven new Star Wars movies but it really started to bother me after TROS. We need to let go of the past and make new things (new does not mean that there can not be requiring or that it has to be set in a distent time but that there just need to be fresh ideas, conlficts, characters and suprising elements).
Hey don't forget about Roshomon (another Kurosawa film)
Which inspired the whole Luke/Kylo flashback thing in The Last Jedi.
And That's why the Mandalorian works so good. They are inspired by the same stuff that inspired Georges Lucas.
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@@matane2465 lol. I wrote that 2 years ago, are you going to to bring this to everyone 😉
Hey, does you name has anything to do with the Canadian city of Matane?
Great quote man. "the masters of today admired the masters of the past, and the masters of tomorrow admire the masters of today"
Loving these more detail-orientated, documentary-style videos HG! Would love to see more in the future. Great work and much love as always!
There's also a lot of spaceship, alien, robot, and outfit designs from comic books like Valarian and Lauraline that Lucas borrowed.
Fighting Devil Dogs , "The Lightning " is where Vader came from.
I totally agree with the point you made on creative endeavors. I never realized it. Great video Greedo!
I heard there was a version of star wars on youtube that is just a compilation of all its influences. Does anyone know what it's called?
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one😃
Edit: Great video! It's always exciting to see the origins of Star Wars.
I still wonder if George Lucas was silently inspired by Dune or if he and Frank Herbert just happened to have the same inspirations in their worldbuilding. There are a truckload of similarities regardless, though most of the similarities are fairly surface level, there are an absolute ton of them. It's a shame George and Frank never got to have a conversation together.
The word that covers this is intertextuality.
And you're right it isn't possible to make something truly original because of the subconscious mind making connections where you don't even recognise them.
As someone who is currently studying film, it's been interesting learning about this kind of thing, not necessarily that people are influenced by stuff. But how I can see that the filmmakers I admire have heavily impacted not only the way I understand their films, but my own style of filmmaking as well.
I think the samurai films sword fights inspired the early light saber dukes than Robin Hood. Samurai sword fights between two masters are slow and measured with quick bursts of energy and just a few clashes. Much more reminiscent of the Vader and Kenobi fight than the kinetic bouncing of Episode 1’s Kenobi vs. Maul.
Awesome video
Great video
In Django 1966, while working with the Mexican bandits, Django’s outfit looks like Han’s in New Hope.
This man deserves mote subs
Valerian et Laureline comics were definitely important too
One huge influence must have been Lawrence of Arabia. Not talked about as much as Kurosawa but some desert sequences have the same lighting as Tatooine and the music is very, very reminiscent of SW
Hi, for a university project I made a four minute condensed version of Star Wars that featured clips of films which inspired Star Wars. Would you like a copy?
I would 🤚
Rogue Guardian Cool, do you have an email?
Sounds cool, wouldn't mind to see that
These are always my favorite videos
VERY well done! One of your best videos in years!
Ford Coppolla influenced Lucas too. Episode 3
Might I recommend some Hegelian philosophy? He’s a bit hard to read but ultimately I think you would find great value in his writings and point of view. Hegel’s “The Phenomenology of Spirit” is the one you would want to read.
You know how The Lion King stole Kimba the White Lion? Well, Star Wars stole from these movies, just like also Avatar stole from Pocahontas, Ferngully The Last Rainforest and Dances with Wolves, and also just like Joker stole from Taxi Driver, and how Bioshock stole from Call of Duty
I really want to watch hidden fortress, but for now I have Seven Samurai which I heard was another inspiration for Star Wars, hell it inspired Dave Faloni for the Maul & Ben Kenobi duel in Rebels.
Hidden fortress is a great film. But if you have 7 samurai, just watch that and see how good a film can be
Also "Cicciolina e Moana mondiali" is a main reference
“Dune” of course
The biggest problem I have with "Disney Star Wars" is that it seems like most of it is not inspired by the ideals of the writers or by other media but just by Star Wars (especially the original trilogy) itself, with the excaption of The Last Jedi and The Mandalorian, which are obviously influenced by Star Wars but still have their own identety (Mandalorian being a western adventure and TLJ being influenced by Kursowa movies like "Ran", "Kagemusha" or "Rashomon").
Solo, Rogue One, TFA and TROS feel like they don't have a unique vision and identety and this feeling is just strengthened by all the references to other Star Wars media. I liked TFA and Rogue One a lot when I first saw them and the refrences didn't bother me because I thought it was just a phase in which they rediscover what Star Wars ment after a long time of not haven new Star Wars movies but it really started to bother me after TROS. We need to let go of the past and make new things (new does not mean that there can not be requiring or that it has to be set in a distent time but that there just need to be fresh ideas, conlficts, characters and suprising elements).
It's a well-known fact that George Lucas borrowed scenes from The Dam Busters for the trench run. There are even a few lines of dialog taken directly from The Dam Busters.
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4:08 I learned from this about what beats from Hidden Fortress were clearly used in Star Wars, but I'm I'm sorry, you're just wrong in your assertion at 4:08 that all that was taken from Flash Gorden and Buck Rogers was face value.
I can easily demonstrate. The original 1936 Flash Gordon serial contained a man and a woman joined by a third man who has a space craft in which they used to intercept a small flying planet that can destroy other planets. When they get there they're confronted by men in helmeted armor, where the lead man has different armor than the laser blaster carrying troopers. Then Flash has saber fights and must face the emperor who rules over this planets destroying planet. Any plotlines, character designs or beets here that sound familiar to a series of movies that came out starting in 1977?
Brows Held High has a great video on this with all the influences, definitely check that one out :D
I never know George Lucas was a weeb
Thanks, HG! 🌠 May we all be similarly inspired both in our creativity as well as our honorable actions in everyday life.
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Great vid
Star Trek also gave some inspiration to Star Wars.
I would go a step further and say that George was making a movie about movies. If you look at all the times he references movies there’s hardly a scene in which he doesn’t pay homage to other films, serials, and classic stories. In an interview, Carrie Fisher said that George was making a movie about all the movie he loved. If you look at George’s filmography you can see he’s an experimental one. Aside from Star Wars and American graffiti all his films are low budget experiments in which he puts shots together to try and create an emotional response. I would say this is what he is doing in Star Wars. Nearly every choice Lucas makes is in favor of something experimental. It’s almost as if he’s taking scenes from movies and stitching them with other movies.
This is why i do not get why people say Luke in TLJ was not in line with star wars. Star wars draw large inspiration from samurai films. Few things are as samurai as the old master fucking off away from society and say fuck no when some young kid wants to be trained
The term "ripoff" has pretty much lost it's meaning but that's just my opinion
Well put Greedo. Of course, unlike a lot of movie thieves (no names will be mentioned, but he's Canadian), George Lucas has always admitted it.
Someone please tell me the music in the background.
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Nothing is Original.
*DUNE*
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dont get me wrong i loved force awakens and last jedi but i feel like the problem with the sequel trilogy, besides the lack of a plan, is that it was ripping off the star wars. What makes shows like The Mandalorian and The Clone Wars work is that its ripping off the things that star wars ripped off, like spaghetti westerns, Flash Gordan, and samurai films.
TLJ didn't really rip off anything other than the surface level elements of the OT. But it changed things up a bit with those similarities. TRoS, let's not talk about that.
Nowadays we call it being unoriginal.
Star Wars sequel haters are just rip-offs of prequel haters
I love how there's always an agenda with your videos. This isn't really about what influenced Star Wars it's about getting fans to stop complaining about the creative hackery of its current overlords. Phony. You don't care about George Lucas.
Wow that's really amazing. It really is.
One of the largest movie franchises in the world
With humble origins
I'd just add one important thing not mentioned: Dune.
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Cause star wars is based on short serialized adventures, I think star wars works better on tv