Fisheye Lenses for Astrophotography - TTArtisan vs. Sigma vs. Canon vs. Opteka - SHOOTOUT
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- All test results from this video are up on: astrolenses.com.
This video is a shootout review of the following fisheye lenses: Opteka 6.5mm f/3.0 HD, TTArtisan 11mm f/2.8, Sigma 15mm f/2.8 Diagonal Fisheye, Sigma 8mm f/2.8 Circular Fisheye, Canon 8-15mm f/4L USM
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Sigma 15mm f/2.8 Diagonal Fisheye - amzn.to/3rFN6ZU
Sigma 8mm f/2.8 Circular Fisheye - amzn.to/3puBfMG
Canon 8-15mm f/4L USM - amzn.to/38FJ9Mh
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Table of Contents:
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00:00 Intro
01:32 Opteka 6.5mm overview
02:57 TTArtisan 11mm overview
03:58 Sigma 15mm overview
04:58 Sigma 8mm overview
05:39 Canon 8-15mm overview
06:33 Star Tests Intro
06:51 Opteka 6.5mm star test
07:40 TTArtisan 11mm star test
08:06 Sigma 15mm star test
08:18 Sigma 8mm star test
08:33 Canon 8-15mm star test
09:00 Head to head star test comps
10:42 Final Thoughts
13:07 Astrolenses.com, Patreon, Outro
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Thanks to you nico I have gotten into astro this summer and have shot andromeda, orion, and the pleadies thanks for all you do
I went en both the TTartisan thanks to you're video still waiting but wanted to thank you ahead of time. Thanks for making the time and sharing the learned information in the video.
I just wanted to thank you for your videos. I managed to get some "not terrible" shots of the Orion Nebula & the Andromeda galaxy this month.
Nice, congrats!
Thank you for this test. It is very helpful get some samples and thoughts for purchasing my next lens. My next lens should work on landscape and astrophotography as well.
Very helpful, as I'm looking go aquire a fisheye lens myself. Thanks for that
Another great video! Thank you Nico for the great contents. Cheers.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very useful review. Thank you for taking time out for an unbiased review. :)
Glad you liked it! Clear skies, Nico
Another amazing video Nico. I see a bright future ahead for you and your UA-cam channel. Keep up the amazing work.
Clear skies!
p.s. your instagram posts are also really good.
Thanks Jeroen!
Great reviews. Thank you very much.
Great video brother!
Great reviews!
Nice vids! Keep it up!
Very interesting channel
Happy new year🤗👍
I know that everytime i watch a new video from you i am gonna increase my knowledge, i wanna thank you for this and for many tutorials you did, which made me enhance my skylls. You are a landmark and i am sure this feeling of mine is the same of many your followers.
Thanks sir Nico.
So nice of you. Happy new year!
@@NebulaPhotos Happy new year from Italy, Nico!
My favorite fisheye has been my Nikon 10.5 f 2.8 DX. For my crop sensor cameras and my Tamaron 15-30mm f 2.8 for my full frame sensors, even though it's not really a fisheye.
Thanks for your review.
The Tamron is definitely on my list. I really gotta get a Canon RF to Nikon F adapter too so I can start testing Nikon lenses. Thanks for the ideas
we need definitely more fisheye comparisons. Like Nikon, Canon fisheyes and Chinese.
I recently bought a Vivitar Series 1 fisheye lens. Absolutely loving it. Was only a little over $100. Used it for the recent meteor shower on December 13th. Wonderful for astrophotography and just fun to walk around during the day taking pics too.
Great video as always! Clear skies to everyone!
Thanks I'll check that one out.
Thanks for the video, you explanations are very clear and concise...
Um... I wonder if you can make a video of lenses between 18mm and 24mm (specifically the sigma and samyang lenses)
Thank you again... And happy New year
Hi Lemuel,
Yes, I plan to. Probably won't come out till this summer.
Cheers, Nico
Hey bro. Nice review. Can you compare the astrophotography performance between the all-time-favorite Samyang/Rokinon 14mm f2.8 and TTartisans 11mm f2.8? That would be awesome!
The 1st photo of the milky way was awesome to me 😊
Nice video, very informative, nice astrophotography. It would be amazing is someone(from earth and as an amateur) made a very detailed collage of the whole milkyway from the north and south. So cool but would take so long and so many years. Ultra wide field sounds amazing especially when doing untracked, although I don't expect much detail. I'm also curious how cropping your images would look like.
Yep, I agree! There have been some various epic mosaics of the whole milky way. Mostly not very "deep" as in each panel may only be a single exposure, but some people have also combined wide-field mosaics with more detailed shots. For example: Alistair Symon made a nice presentation on this on the astro imaging channel a few weeks ago: ua-cam.com/video/-29gKwGoU34/v-deo.html
Awesome!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
Класно!Дуже якісно зроблено
Accurate comparing .
Hi Nico! What do you think of Tokina 11-16? Many say it is a great lens for the stars. Thank's in advance
Thank you so much for sharing educating videos people like me beginners to understand the concepts and techniques.
I’m planning to purchase my very first DSLR which is Nikon D750 along with 85mm 1.8 + 50mm 1.8 G lens. I’m wondering is it still worth to buy this camera considering 5 years old?. Or should i invest in mirrorless which is Z6ii with kit lens. My only concern is from d750 has 1/4000 shutter speed unlike d780 and Z6ii 1/8000 and 900 seconds, I’m not quite sure this is show stopper.
Purpose of buying a camera is for taking Portraits, Still, Landscape, Bird, Product photography (learning) and of course my kids.
It would be really great if you throw some lights on my concern to make a wise decision.... other options I have considered is Nikon D780 with one of the lens and Z6ii with the kit lens... apart from D780 and Z6ii I have been suggesting to go with D850 with the kit lens.
Thank you and looking forward to your recommendation.
Sir lots of love from india.
Plz make more more astronomy tutorials.
Plz make them on dslr+star tracker+ DSS+ gimp
Many of us only use this object and softwares.
Plz sir make more and more capturing and editing videos on this things.
Want to see more nebula and clusters of Messier series.
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
would you say that they also work great with wide angle night photography for architecture??
This Sigma 15mm indeed looks like a great lens to take nighttime birds in flight. BTW TTArtisans released recently DSLR version of therir lens and to my eyes it looks like it is optically superior to its mirrorless brother. Sharper near the edges, less transverse CA and less vignetting.
How about the comparison for 7 artisan 10mm f2.8 versus TT artisan 11mm f2.8 ?
HYPE!!! My TTArtisan just came in the mail today. I cannot wait to get out there and shoot some night skies now that I have stumbled upon this! Thank you for sharing. What is a recommended shutter speed for night sky shooting?
For fisheye, 15 seconds at ISO3200 is a good place to start. Definitely zoom in all the way after taking a test shot and see what the stars look like. If you plan to stack, you may want to go 10 seconds to get really round stars, if single shot, you may want to go 20 or even 30 seconds.
@@NebulaPhotos thank you for the feedback!! Just waiting on a clear sky to test it out!
Samyang 14mm and Nikkor 14-24mm are another great fisheye lenses
Thanks, I will check them out.
Eu gostaria da sua opinião. Estou pensando em comprar 7Artisans 7.5mm F2.8 lI para usar na Sony Zv 10. Estou em dúvida se é uma boa opção.
Estou iniciando na astrofotografia.
I mean, if the focus ring straight up doesn't work I'm pretty sure you could've just sent it back to get a refund or a new copy. That has to be a manufacturing defect, even for a cheap lens like that it's impossible that a not working focus ring is representative for the product.
Great video and comparison btw!
It's pretty amazing how many complaints of this you can read on B&H and elsewhere for any cheap fisheye lens including this one. So sadly, I think it is somewhat representative of this product. Good point about returns though. If buying a lens new for astrophotography, it's a good idea to test it within the return period to make sure one doesn't have a lemon. Unfortunately, I'm so behind on stuff that I bought this in June and didn't test it until September, well past even generous return windows. 😂
@@NebulaPhotos Oh really, that sounds pretty harsh. Well in that case I guess this video provides a warning ;). Keep it up you make great videos!
Nice video, it helped me a little bit, because I have to buy a new lense for my dslr in the next months. I have one other question, you bought a iOptron SmartEQ Pro two years ago, but the review never came out. I'm considering buying this mount, because I need a mount which is not too heavy and easy to transport. Can you recommend the SmartEQ Pro?
Do you already have some experience with Astronomical mounts and are okay with tinkering? It is a pretty good mount in that use case, but honestly I now use the Skywatcher Star Adventurer way more when I just want to grab a lightweight travel mount.
@@NebulaPhotos Yes I do, that's not a problem. I also use a rig with a skyguider pro and a zenithstar 73. But I want some transportable mount with go to and the possibility to control it with a laptop for my second scope.
@@ShortysAstrobase Ok, yes, it may work for you then. Here's my nutshell review: build quality, polar scope, tripod are all pretty bad. The build quality and polar scope are worse than cheaper star trackers I own. After I shored up the tripod, changed out the knobs, messed with the tensioning, and use an electronic means of polar aligning (I use a Polemaster), I can get decent results. The tracking/payload won't be any better than your Skyguider Pro, but with additional cable purchases you can connect to a laptop and the ASCOM driver works fine meaning you can platesolve and all that. You might also want to look at the Skywatcher Az-GTi with wedge. I think it's a bit cheaper, more compact, and also offers go-to and computer control. Good luck!
@@NebulaPhotos Thank you, I also will have a look at the Az-GTi. I worked two years with the celestron mount and tripod of the 127 slt maksutov. It can't get worse than that XD.
And Samyang 14mm F2.8 and Samyang 8mm F3.5?¿? so bad they are?
Hi love your content and your finished pic of your Astro photography a newb question do you see in an naked eye 8 inch Dob what is in your photography ?. Thank you :Mark.
Some deep sky objects like star clusters will look better through the eyepiece IMO. But galaxies and nebulae will look very different visually than photographically. Not as defined and not much color. This is due to the way our eyes work and our inability to take 'long exposures' like a camera
Hi Nebula Photos thank you for you reply I love the finished image of a nebula and galaxy though photography the colours are beautiful and clear 👍🏻.
I have an odd question for you, I have acquired a rokinon 12mm lense for a canon M mount ( I don’t have a m mount camera). Do you know if there’s adapters available?
Hi Mike, assuming you have a DSLR- unfortunately no, the Canon M series is Canon's other mirrorless line and mirrorless lenses won't adapt to DSLRs. DSLR lenses (EF, EF-S, etc.) will adapt to the mirrorless bodies, but not the other way around. It has to do with how the lenses and cameras are designed to reach focus at a specified 'back focus' from the rear element of the lens. Since DSLRs have the sensor further back in the camera body to allow for the mirror, the lenses are designed with plenty of backfocus and therefore easy to adapt to mirrorless with an adaptor (a spacer, sometimes with electronic pass-through circuitry). Mirrorless lenses designed for the mirrorless system are taking advantage of the shorter flange distance in their design so you can't use them with the older DSLRs. Sorry! Nico
@@NebulaPhotos thanks. I’m trying to figure out whether to sell the never used lense , find an adapter for ZWO cameras, or buy a Mseries camera (which seem lighter).
I love your tutorials.
hello, I bought the TT artisans 7.5mm for the Canon R and the lens makes a black circle around it. I wanted one that didn't make that circle.
Is it normal to do? I think this is for the hood, but isn't there a version with a detachable hood for the Canon mount R?
yes, it normal it is an aps-c lens, if you have the newest canon R7 or R10, it won''t do that, but these body s are less suited for low light
~$200 for a high-quality diagonal fisheye? sold!
ohhh i just got the rokinon 12mm but not fish eye, should have waited. what about a native ef-m
I don't have a 'M' series camera. I will wait a year to see if Canon is going to keep that line or shift everything to 'R'.
@@NebulaPhotos 10-4 gracias
did you test the rokinon 12mm f2 wide angle lens?
Not yet. I'll add it to the list though.
@@NebulaPhotos very recommended lens to test for astro.. I would like you could review it asap.. happy new year brother.. 👌
48275?
Very good! How did you do the 360 degree effect?
Circular fisheye lens! Not an effect, that is what the photograph looks like with this style of lens
@@NebulaPhotos wowww...great!
how can such short focal length lenses have such high (relative) focal ratios? Just curious
Low focal ratios (f/2.8 and below) are very difficult to design which is why those lenses are typically more expensive and heavier. Fisheye lenses are also difficult to get right optically. Mixing the two would probably just be prohibitively expensive and heavy.
Do you have any thoughts on astro-tracker with fish-eye lens? Is it not necessary or does it even work with a circular fish-eye?The tracker would need to rotate in a circular motion?
Yes, it works. All the images in this shootout were tracked including the circular fisheye shots. The problem would be in stacking too many tracked shots, you can't expect a full circle unless you image over multiple nights or just use a short integration. Here is a timelapse of tracked circular fisheye shots I made: www.astrobin.com/288134/
@@NebulaPhotos Thank you for sharing! I do not see motion in the link you sent. I used to live in NJ and started shooting stars in the Pine Barrens there.
@@et_vcuq Ah, must be a website issue as it's not working for me either now, was supposed to be an animated gif. This one should work: vimeo.com/209765419
How did you configure a Canon RA in order to get such natural colors of yourself being not a deep sky nebula? I was told the Canon RA astro camera would be completely useless for skin tones and general photography.
Hi Christoph,
I don't do anything special, I just put it on Auto WB and shoot. One of the main selling points of this camera over a modified R or any other DSLR/Mirrorless that lets in more Ha, is that Canon developed a special firmware for the Ra that will correct the WB so you get pretty close to correct colors for daytime shooting/filming. WB settings have little to no bearing on raw astronomical image processing, but are a big deal for how I use the camera the most (my main video camera for youtube). I'd say the statement 'completely useless' is way off the mark, and I question whether that person has actually used the Ra for daytime shooting. I find it only still struggles to hit accurate colors on dark clothing, pink flowers, etc., but does a very nice job on skin tones. I will have a comparison to my stock 5Dmk3 on people and landscapes when I finally get around to a full review of the Ra. Cheers, Nico
@@NebulaPhotos Hi Nico, thank you very much for your extensive response!
are there any kinda affordable options for canon ef ( circular)?
Full frame or crop sensor?
@@NebulaPhotos full frame
@@flo.___.w2627 I haven't tested it yet, but this might fit the bill: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/769428-REG/Rokinon_FE8M_C_8mm_Ultra_Wide_Angle.html
Samyang 12mm 2.8 is the best fisheye lens
I was looking into building a >100$ all sky camera a year ago and while it would most likely be possible it was rather annoying to figure out camera sensor sellers in china
That's something I want to build too! Did you figure out a good build?
@@NebulaPhotos I was working on it last January but then covid hit so I didn't have the time over to finish it or even order anything.
I think I figured out a rather decent set of components that would work for getting a decent night sky image and daylight cloud coverage image.
I was building it partly because the site I have my telescope are several hours away so I wanted to be able to actually see if the sky was clear before going over there.
If I have time this weekend I will email you the component I figured out should work, I am sure you have both more experience with cameras and astrophotography so you will most likely have allot easier time putting together something good using the components I found then as a starting point.
too bad you did not review the 12mm rokinon 2.8 fisheye. it beats them all.
Oh, really? I'll have to check it out. You've compared it to the Sigma 8mm?
@@NebulaPhotos Yes. the 12mm was sharper all around - but it's also for full frame mount too...so it bigger..close to 500gms. I used to have the 14mm 2.8 and this 12mm blew it away...that artisan 11mm is pretty impressive tho' ....way cheaper and only slightly less sharp. Nice channel btw.
you read my mind , whilest i ordered a IRIX 15mm F2.4 , surrely a good astro lens .
but sigma wil be better offcourse !
I ordered the black stone edition (full metal housing and wheather seALING) for 649 $ .. and i like it .
Even more then the samyang 14mm f2.8 i used to own , i gave to my oldest daughter for architecture and reportage video on her APSC .
today i saw a unicorn lens , never saw anybody use it for ASTRO ...
the ARRI 150 mm T1.3 :D , paired with special astro camera , best tracker and bortle class 7 or 8 skies ..... i dreaming lol
grtzz john
Ooh, thanks for the reminder that I wan to try the IRIX wide angle lenses. Not sure about the Arri cinema lens. In general, I've found cinema lenses are hit or miss (mostly miss) on the stars as cinematographers are not necessarily looking for the same qualities in a lens as astrophotographers.
@@NebulaPhotos
i forgot the IRIX has a drop in filter on the back element ;)
ARRI...Just some daydreaming lol ...but its the sharpest , made by carl zeiss
Would it he possible to do this untracked with stacking?
Yes, fisheye lenses are great for untracked too! Should have mentioned that in the video.
@@NebulaPhotos thanks for your reply and many thanks for your helpful video.
I know it might be a lot to ask but, I can't get my head around what happens to the foreground in stacking then. Would you need to photoshop that in later. Would that work without artifacts?
@@itsdoublesix Yep, that's one option. There are different schools of thought there, but I would probably just expand the stacked fisheye shot a tad and then place the foreground (from a single shot) with sky removed on top as a layer in Photoshop. That's what I did for the processed shot at 13:30. Another way to go for circular fisheye is just to forgo the foreground altogether and crop to a perfect circle, getting rid of the stacking artifacts. That can look nice too, for example Wei-Hao Wang's shot here: astrob.in/294658/0/
@@NebulaPhotos thank you very much. I will just have to try that
I wish force entering this field , but some troubles constraint me .
awww, no Nikkor 10.5 f2.8.
Just joshin.