To the Second Caller: Listening to you reminded me of the last 30 years as well. However, a few months ago, I realized that I came from a Lordship Salvation background. I always felt God was there, but always losing "that feeling" that God was. I went back and forth, tossed like the waves, but over the last year I became drawn to messages of Grace. A few months ago, it was like a "spiritual light bulb" came on and realized that I was taught the verses that pertain to discipleship, and our walk as a christian as requirements of salvation, or to keep our salvation. I know now to separate my "Position," from my "Condition." I was using my condition as a sinner as a measure of my salvation, and closeness to God. I always based my being Born again with my lack of fruit in my life. I now use my position in Christ alone as a measure of my salvation, and my condition? Well, what I do, or don't do, I know my Lord will grant, or remove rewards. He will chastise me, or he may even take me home before it is my time, plus I could have or not have consequences for my sin on this earth, but I know that no matter what, He is my Father and He will never leave me nor forsake me. I have noticed that some of those things I struggled with are starting to become not so hard to walk away from. Not perfect, not every time, but better.. And if should fail, I know He doesn't ask for any work of me other than to just Believe on the One whom He has sent. May you find that you are eternally secure because of HIM, not because of ourselves. God Bless.
beth knox The experience of this person is what I experienced too. I lived 30 years on a roller coaster. Feeling like sometimes God was pleased with me, then feeling like I was not pleasing. I came to a huge revelation in 2007 of God’s love and grace. Since then my emotions may try to tell me that my life is not pleasing, but I am so secure in my relationship with the Lord that I’m solid in knowing who I am in Him. I’m happy to chat further, if you desire..
Dvancino Your experience is similar to mine. Not saying I never get disappointed in my lack of not measuring up....but it’s to my standards, not His. I discovered His unconditional love after 30 years. That was in 2007, and since then I rest in my acceptance.
Drew as to how to approach your teen about Christ through the grace message? What if they dont seem terribly interested in the message? On the flip side, what if they are also very rebellious and dont follow home rules? Is a parent being legalistic asking them to follow simple house rules? Be respectful, tell the truth dont steal, be home on time, clean up after yourself etc?
Mozhgan Bhanji -- I'm not entirely sure I understand your question because English doesn't appear to be your first language. I can try to address the Scripture passage and you can tell me if it answers your question. Let's put Matthew 18:6 in context. The disciples had just asked Jesus who was the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Jesus brought a child before them and said that when a person is converted (put their faith in Jesus) that he becomes like a child. Being in the kingdom isn't about being the greatest, but about beginning a new life like a child (being born again) and growing in that new life. To become the greatest, a person must first humble himself -- not trying to be great. Receiving a child in Jesus' name is like receiving Jesus because he is doing what Jesus does. Jesus always let the children come to Him, even when the disciples were trying to keep them away. Now we get to Matthew 18:6 -- "But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea." The opposite of allowing children to come to Jesus is someone forbidding them from going to Jesus. That's what the Pharisees were doing, threatening people who followed Jesus with expulsion from the temple. Coming to Jesus is the only way to salvation. Preventing people from coming to Jesus leaves them in their sins. Teaching children to reject the truth will naturally lead them to sin that isn't forgiven. Keeping people from salvation is a sin worse than having a millstone hung around ones neck and being tossed into the sea. That is only the first death. What is worse than the first death? The second death that occurs at Judgment. Being cast into hell is worse than being cast into the sea. But remember that Jesus said this to His disciples BEFORE the cross. Jesus isn't saying here that causing someone to sin can take away a person's salvation, because *no* *one* was saved yet -- that didn't happen until the New Covenant, which began at Jesus' death and included His resurrection. Even the sin of keeping people away from Jesus' teachings will be forgiven if the person repents and confesses Jesus later. You mentioned "teachings" but I'm not sure which teachings you are referring to. If you mean teachings that deny Jesus, then those teachings could also prevent people from coming to Jesus. If those false teachers never repent, then they will receive a punishment worse than being cast into the sea: they will be cast into hell. Does that help, or did I miss your point?
Enon Knives hi yes english is not my first language and i do apologize for it . The subject was wrong teaching , i was under impression that if I teach the Bible in a wrong way I will be answerable to God . It seems that I have made a huge mistake.
Enon Knives imagine I understood a chapter wrong , if I teach that understanding to someone else will I be answerable to God . I am not worried about what people think I am worried about what God thinks . I don’t know please help
@@mozhganbhanji3535 -- If everyone who taught something wrong was answerable to God, then no preachers would get into heaven. No one understands the Bible perfectly. If you have confessed Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, then you are fine. There is no teaching that can so damage a believer that it imperils his salvation. As for causing people to sin, there is no sin that Jesus didn't die for. The only danger is for an unbeliever teaching God's children to sin -- unless the unbeliever repents.
Great program!
Thank you Andrew so much for sharing such Understanding Knowledge and Wisdom!!!!!
To the Second Caller:
Listening to you reminded me of the last 30 years as well. However, a few months ago, I realized that I came from a Lordship Salvation background. I always felt God was there, but always losing "that feeling" that God was. I went back and forth, tossed like the waves, but over the last year I became drawn to messages of Grace. A few months ago, it was like a "spiritual light bulb" came on and realized that I was taught the verses that pertain to discipleship, and our walk as a christian as requirements of salvation, or to keep our salvation.
I know now to separate my "Position," from my "Condition." I was using my condition as a sinner as a measure of my salvation, and closeness to God. I always based my being Born again with my lack of fruit in my life. I now use my position in Christ alone as a measure of my salvation, and my condition? Well, what I do, or don't do, I know my Lord will grant, or remove rewards. He will chastise me, or he may even take me home before it is my time, plus I could have or not have consequences for my sin on this earth, but I know that no matter what, He is my Father and He will never leave me nor forsake me.
I have noticed that some of those things I struggled with are starting to become not so hard to walk away from. Not perfect, not every time, but better.. And if should fail, I know He doesn't ask for any work of me other than to just Believe on the One whom He has sent. May you find that you are eternally secure because of HIM, not because of ourselves. God Bless.
Can you chat with me, I struggle to understand
beth knox The experience of this person is what I experienced too. I lived 30 years on a roller coaster. Feeling like sometimes God was pleased with me, then feeling like I was not pleasing. I came to a huge revelation in 2007 of God’s love and grace. Since then my emotions may try to tell me that my life is not pleasing, but I am so secure in my relationship with the Lord that I’m solid in knowing who I am in Him. I’m happy to chat further, if you desire..
Dvancino Your experience is similar to mine. Not saying I never get disappointed in my lack of not measuring up....but it’s to my standards, not His. I discovered His unconditional love after 30 years. That was in 2007, and since then I rest in my acceptance.
Let the TRUTH of your SECURITY and SALVATION penetrate your soul and the PEACE and JOY will FLOW!
This is sooo good!!!
Very good
I run my fan as white noise it blocked out the barking dog next door and I stayed cool. I sleep well because of that😴
Drew as to how to approach your teen about Christ through the grace message? What if they dont seem terribly interested in the message? On the flip side, what if they are also very rebellious and dont follow home rules? Is a parent being legalistic asking them to follow simple house rules? Be respectful, tell the truth dont steal, be home on time, clean up after yourself etc?
Who are those people that gave 👎👎👎👎?🤔
The enemy knows he can't have your soul so he will relentlessly attempt to kill your peace and steal your joy! He's pathetic! 😇
Pastor what about Matthew 18:6
How can you take away if teachings are not wrong .
Mozhgan Bhanji -- I'm not entirely sure I understand your question because English doesn't appear to be your first language. I can try to address the Scripture passage and you can tell me if it answers your question.
Let's put Matthew 18:6 in context. The disciples had just asked Jesus who was the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Jesus brought a child before them and said that when a person is converted (put their faith in Jesus) that he becomes like a child. Being in the kingdom isn't about being the greatest, but about beginning a new life like a child (being born again) and growing in that new life. To become the greatest, a person must first humble himself -- not trying to be great. Receiving a child in Jesus' name is like receiving Jesus because he is doing what Jesus does. Jesus always let the children come to Him, even when the disciples were trying to keep them away.
Now we get to Matthew 18:6 -- "But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea." The opposite of allowing children to come to Jesus is someone forbidding them from going to Jesus. That's what the Pharisees were doing, threatening people who followed Jesus with expulsion from the temple. Coming to Jesus is the only way to salvation. Preventing people from coming to Jesus leaves them in their sins. Teaching children to reject the truth will naturally lead them to sin that isn't forgiven.
Keeping people from salvation is a sin worse than having a millstone hung around ones neck and being tossed into the sea. That is only the first death. What is worse than the first death? The second death that occurs at Judgment. Being cast into hell is worse than being cast into the sea.
But remember that Jesus said this to His disciples BEFORE the cross. Jesus isn't saying here that causing someone to sin can take away a person's salvation, because *no* *one* was saved yet -- that didn't happen until the New Covenant, which began at Jesus' death and included His resurrection. Even the sin of keeping people away from Jesus' teachings will be forgiven if the person repents and confesses Jesus later.
You mentioned "teachings" but I'm not sure which teachings you are referring to. If you mean teachings that deny Jesus, then those teachings could also prevent people from coming to Jesus. If those false teachers never repent, then they will receive a punishment worse than being cast into the sea: they will be cast into hell.
Does that help, or did I miss your point?
Enon Knives hi yes english is not my first language and i do apologize for it . The subject was wrong teaching , i was under impression that if I teach the Bible in a wrong way I will be answerable to God . It seems that I have made a huge mistake.
Enon Knives imagine I understood a chapter wrong , if I teach that understanding to someone else will I be answerable to God . I am not worried about what people think I am worried about what God thinks . I don’t know please help
@@mozhganbhanji3535 -- If everyone who taught something wrong was answerable to God, then no preachers would get into heaven. No one understands the Bible perfectly. If you have confessed Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, then you are fine. There is no teaching that can so damage a believer that it imperils his salvation. As for causing people to sin, there is no sin that Jesus didn't die for. The only danger is for an unbeliever teaching God's children to sin -- unless the unbeliever repents.
Enon Knives thank you