Stephen Fry - Hay Sessions 2009 2/6
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Part 2 of 6
Stephen Fry talks to Peter Florence at the Hay Festival (in Hay-On-Wye) in May 2009 about life, politics, America and culture.
The discussion of rhetoric continues with Winston Churchill, Martin Luther KIng and Obama.
Fry is then asked why an educated English gentleman like himself loves american culture so much. Fry talks about American music and Irving Berlin, Lorenz Hart and Cole Porter. He also talks about American film and Billy Wilder.
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At last a genuine rebuttal of the "American's have no sense of irony" argument! One of my favorite moments of getting to know my grandmother as an adult was when she came face to face with an Englishman who was being sarcastic with EVERY sentence. We were all getting pretty bored, except for Nana, who seemed to find him fascinating. The more seriously she took him the more he talked down to her. We were in stitches all night watching him explain his "wit" to her while she rolled her eyes at him.
As a student of rhetoric I'm quite surprised that Fry doesm't mention Cicero, who is perhaps the greatest master of all time, and - on the opposite side of the spectrum, but just as brilliant and relevant, Reagan, who was perhaps even better than Obama is
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how simplistic. I don't particularly agree with the bail-outs but if he didn't then America would be in a much more dire position today.
@Oxyster7 I absolutely agree (I am a Socialist) but does America worship constitutes intellectual discourse on the superpower? I don't think so.
brtain is not an intellectual country, it is a country full of intellectual people, you base a country on it's people and the british are generally intelligant.
Thank you 😊
the interviewer looks like he just ate a huge meal and is holding back burps. how annoying when an interviewer looks uncomfortable
Can't help but wonder how many have seemingly missed the point... And "ironically" descended into pedantry without even fully realising it. But then maybe I missed the point;)
@GaiusIuliusTaberna Sorry but you are talking about an extremist minority here. I have just been to a ghetto town in Conneticut and can report that Americans are far more racist than the British. I have the dilemna of prefering America as a country to live in but having a greater preference for the British attitude.
America is built on immigration. The United Kingdom was successful for years without any. The irony still exists that we cope with multiculturalism far better than America.
vulgarization of a sophisticated European culture? Escusez moi?
I am afraid I disagree with Mr. Fry, idol to mere men that he is. As much as I adore the manipulation and diction of the spoken English language, I am afraid that when it comes to Politics, rhetoric is not a tool that should be adopted in any time other than in war time. As good as the Obama speeches were, they lacked any substance whatsoever, and I knew he would have no success in his leadership because he promised nothing in his speeches, bar nought. Hum...
this america worship is really cringe worthy