Problem with Humbrol acrylic paints has always been that the results are so mixed. What works for one colour doesn't necessarily work with the next, which leads to frustration and the bottles/tins end up in the bin. Hopefully the G3's will be better.
At 1:55 in, it shows you putting thinner droplets direct into the airbrush followed by paint droplets. How did you go about mixing the paint inside the airbrush please?
Finger on the end of the nozzle and then introduce air by operating the trigger. This forces air into the cup producing bubbles which mixes the paint and thinner
A part of the problem is the thinner. It retards the drying time so much it gives the paint the chance to separate. Just like the first gen. generation of paint.
A bit late to this party , but over the past year or so have been introducing myself to the world of airbrushing acrylic paint. Have discovered that using any Humbrol acrylics with an airbrush is to avoid Humbrol Acrylic Thinner ( causing too much tip drying) . I have had really good results even with 0.2 needle/nozzles by thinning with Ultimate Thinner 50/50 ( which I believe has a retarder in the mix) I also discovered that my bottle of Humbrol thinner developed ` white floaters` over time when left idle for long periods and although they vanished after a good shaking made me think the product has an inherent fault.....
I used the desert yellow this week on a Tamiya LRDG vehicle, my first time using these Humbrol paints. I must confess I’m not a big fan of Humbrol products, but I couldn’t get that colour in Vallejo or Tamiya in the shop, so I bought the Humbrol 😬 It went on really well, dried quickly and covered nicely 😱 I was pleasantly surprised 👏🏻👏🏻 So I will try some more 😎 As a side point I used Hataka thinners with it 🤔
I've really not enjoyed airbrushng the new Gen 2 with the sole exception of the 165 grey, the 78 interior green is OK brushing. I've never liked the 11 silver - but it works OK as a high-speed silver as it's that much dulled down. I think Humbrol are proper water acrylics so they can be thinned with plain water. I think the range still needs some work!
yeah, i find the humbrol thinners are a bit overkill when water works well enough for these acrylics, shame that they aren't as consistent across the whole range for pigment density and ease of use
Very hit and miss, there is no consistency in the ratio of paint to thinners needed to obtain a good airbrushing mix. They do tend to congeal in the bottle and despite a good shake it can take a good squeeze to get any paint to emerge. When you do reach the sweet spot of paint to thinners they are good, but i still prefer Vallejo Model Air. Thank you for the comparison video, very useful.
You had some trouble screwing in the smaller cup. The trick is to "screw" it in backwards, while pushing it down, until it "locates" (falls in) the screw thread. Then you can screw it in without issues. This works for all screws where there's already a thread, and specially important to avoid cross-threading into plastic posts and the like.
I have never had any good results with Humbrol paints no matter what gen they are. I spray 100℅ Tamiya as I never have problem with it. Just one observation. Why all the hand-waving. This seems to be an epidemic with UA-camrs that do close up videos. It's annoying and not necessary.
hand waving? I guess gesticulating when talking is normal but when you don't have the rest of the body to see as well and only the hands I suppose it does look a little strange. I imagine that if all youtubers do it then it is just normal human behaviour?
Word of advice around mixing them ect what I found is you can buy little stainless steel balls first started using them in model air but pop the cap out put one or two balls in makes mixing them a dream and also means they mix well
They do seem to be workable overall although I would be put off a little with the pithy consistency of some of the colours. Looks like the dropper bottles will need cleaning after use. Thanks for sharing Matt.
Hi Matt, nice testing review of these Gen2 paints. I have been using them for a couple of months with generally good results. I tend to thin them at about 50/50 and spray them through a 0.2 needle at about 20psi which can be lowered where required by the mac valve on my airbrush
Thank you for reviews. Having come back into the hobby this year, I immediately went for humbrol paints, ( previously used their enamels). I gave to say I thought they were terrible. Always used their acrylic thinner, tried differing ratios and couldn't get on with them. To be honest I threw them all away. Have used Tamiya since with no issues, , and will also look at AK and Vallejo for future use.
I’ve just got a batch if them and found them (especially lighter colours like linen 74) lumpy and grainy even after a lot of mixing. Thinned about 60/40 at 15/20 psi and splattered. Tamiya are much better so far but Tamiya don’t brush paint well.
Hi, Your paint test is interesting, especially since it is an acrylic product. I don't know these new paints but my impression is that they would benefit from being a little more diluted for use with an airbrush. On the other hand, 45 seconds of shaking seems a minimum to me (even with the addition of a stainless steel ball in the bottle, which I always do with my Vallejo and AK 3G bottles). Concerning the irregularity of quality from one shade to another, I think that this is encountered with most types of paints, even lacquers, perhaps to a lesser degree. It would be interesting to test these Humbrol paints with a slightly higher dilution and at a slightly lower pressure to see their reaction, how they go for semi translucent coats and fine details (subtle mottling and others). Perhaps also, as I practice successfully with Vallejo and other acrylics, adding a drop or 2 of Pledge or equivalent as an additive to the mixture can improve their surface tension and shine?. BR from France 🇨🇵 🤝🏻
Hi Matt, thanks for the review, I have never used these paints, so this review is most welcome. The paints seem to brush paint well for detail parts but do not do well when airbrushed. I think that I will stick with the paints that I am currently using instead of adding yet another paint range to my shelf, cheers Matt.
'Acrylic' paints cover a variety of formulas with different properties, and I would like to know where you got for information from. As a lifelong modeller (70 next year) I grew up with enamels, but switched to acrylics a number of years ago when my children were young. I had to learn different techniques, but so far as I am concerned, that is what modelling is all about. I am quite happy with them and get quite good results.
@@ModelMinutes also I use a nail varnish vibrating paint mixer thingy, to ensure the paint is well mixed. A few thin coats of paint is better than few less of thicker. I will typical paint 2-3 coats for a 1/72 scale model.
I like it but it's a little inconsistent so getting it right for airbrushing is a tad hit and miss compared to specialist airbrush paints like Vallejo Model Air, I think it's more a competitor for Model Colour. I wonder what Humbrol include in their mystery box? Are there any Gen 2 or is it loads of crusty turquoise and metallic pink pots?
Helpful video, thanks Matt, cheers Liam
Glad you enjoyed it
Problem with Humbrol acrylic paints has always been that the results are so mixed. What works for one colour doesn't necessarily work with the next, which leads to frustration and the bottles/tins end up in the bin.
Hopefully the G3's will be better.
yes, i think it is the inconsistency between paints that I find a little annoying
At 1:55 in, it shows you putting thinner droplets direct into the airbrush followed by paint droplets. How did you go about mixing the paint inside the airbrush please?
Finger on the end of the nozzle and then introduce air by operating the trigger. This forces air into the cup producing bubbles which mixes the paint and thinner
A part of the problem is the thinner. It retards the drying time so much it gives the paint the chance to separate. Just like the first gen. generation of paint.
Hmm, the seperation is pretty intense on these
Hey matt! I think you should start a series where you get different kits from less known companies and rate them outta ten.i think it would be cool
what would the criteria be for ranking them?
A bit late to this party , but over the past year or so have been introducing myself to the world of airbrushing acrylic paint. Have discovered that using any Humbrol acrylics with an airbrush is to avoid Humbrol Acrylic Thinner ( causing too much tip drying) . I have had really good results even with 0.2 needle/nozzles by thinning with Ultimate Thinner 50/50 ( which I believe has a retarder in the mix) I also discovered that my bottle of Humbrol thinner developed ` white floaters` over time when left idle for long periods and although they vanished after a good shaking made me think the product has an inherent fault.....
Thanks for sharing your experience!
I used the desert yellow this week on a Tamiya LRDG vehicle, my first time using these Humbrol paints. I must confess I’m not a big fan of Humbrol products, but I couldn’t get that colour in Vallejo or Tamiya in the shop, so I bought the Humbrol 😬 It went on really well, dried quickly and covered nicely 😱 I was pleasantly surprised 👏🏻👏🏻 So I will try some more 😎 As a side point I used Hataka thinners with it 🤔
Thanks for sharing!
I've really not enjoyed airbrushng the new Gen 2 with the sole exception of the 165 grey, the 78 interior green is OK brushing. I've never liked the 11 silver - but it works OK as a high-speed silver as it's that much dulled down. I think Humbrol are proper water acrylics so they can be thinned with plain water. I think the range still needs some work!
yeah, i find the humbrol thinners are a bit overkill when water works well enough for these acrylics, shame that they aren't as consistent across the whole range for pigment density and ease of use
Very hit and miss, there is no consistency in the ratio of paint to thinners needed to obtain a good airbrushing mix. They do tend to congeal in the bottle and despite a good shake it can take a good squeeze to get any paint to emerge. When you do reach the sweet spot of paint to thinners they are good, but i still prefer Vallejo Model Air. Thank you for the comparison video, very useful.
Thanks for the info!
You had some trouble screwing in the smaller cup. The trick is to "screw" it in backwards, while pushing it down, until it "locates" (falls in) the screw thread. Then you can screw it in without issues. This works for all screws where there's already a thread, and specially important to avoid cross-threading into plastic posts and the like.
If you look closely, that’s exactly the process I’m using, i just kept dropping it because it’s small
I just recently bought a 2-gen Humbrol to try it out. Sadly they aren't widely available so far in Poland.
I imagine in time there might be more selection
@@ModelMinuteslooking forward to this Mat.👍👍👍
I have never had any good results with Humbrol paints no matter what gen they are. I spray 100℅ Tamiya as I never have problem with it.
Just one observation. Why all the hand-waving. This seems to be an epidemic with UA-camrs that do close up videos. It's annoying and not necessary.
hand waving? I guess gesticulating when talking is normal but when you don't have the rest of the body to see as well and only the hands I suppose it does look a little strange. I imagine that if all youtubers do it then it is just normal human behaviour?
Hey Matt - I’ve purchased a number of these 2 gen paints and tbh I have had very mixed results, look forward to seeing the video, regards Liam
Yeah the video will kinda reflect that when you get to see it 😂
@@ModelMinutes cool my I ask what time it’s scheduled for, I’m in the Middle East atm?🤣cheers.
it should say on the video how long until it goes live, but 6pm BST @@ljscalemodels526
Thanks for the video, very interesting but i will stick with enamels 😊
Enamels certainly do have some good qualities
Great review.
I no longer use humbrol paints, I personally think they are dog poo, I’m using Vallejo,mig and AK which I find are brilliant
thanks for sharing!
i haf the same problem like with the AK 3gen Primer to tick it closes my nosel in 1 sek ,
thats a shame
Word of advice around mixing them ect what I found is you can buy little stainless steel balls first started using them in model air but pop the cap out put one or two balls in makes mixing them a dream and also means they mix well
yes, i've heard that it can certainly help for plastic bottles (glass ones shatter if you add a mixing ball)
I found the nozzle clogs really easily. The paint is OK, the nozzles let it down.
I agree, it does need cleaning out more frequently than other brands
They do seem to be workable overall although I would be put off a little with the pithy consistency of some of the colours. Looks like the dropper bottles will need cleaning after use. Thanks for sharing Matt.
Yes, the bottles do need a clean otherwise they clog up sadly
Hi Matt, nice testing review of these Gen2 paints. I have been using them for a couple of months with generally good results. I tend to thin them at about 50/50 and spray them through a 0.2 needle at about 20psi which can be lowered where required by the mac valve on my airbrush
Thanks for the info!
Thank you for reviews. Having come back into the hobby this year, I immediately went for humbrol paints, ( previously used their enamels). I gave to say I thought they were terrible. Always used their acrylic thinner, tried differing ratios and couldn't get on with them. To be honest I threw them all away. Have used Tamiya since with no issues, , and will also look at AK and Vallejo for future use.
thanks for letting me know!
I’ve just got a batch if them and found them (especially lighter colours like linen 74) lumpy and grainy even after a lot of mixing. Thinned about 60/40 at 15/20 psi and splattered. Tamiya are much better so far but Tamiya don’t brush paint well.
I have a few type 2 paints and they’re probably the best paints I’ve used so far
good to know!
Hi,
Your paint test is interesting, especially since it is an acrylic product. I don't know these new paints but my impression is that they would benefit from being a little more diluted for use with an airbrush.
On the other hand, 45 seconds of shaking seems a minimum to me (even with the addition of a stainless steel ball in the bottle, which I always do with my Vallejo and AK 3G bottles). Concerning the irregularity of quality from one shade to another, I think that this is encountered with most types of paints, even lacquers, perhaps to a lesser degree.
It would be interesting to test these Humbrol paints with a slightly higher dilution and at a slightly lower pressure to see their reaction, how they go for semi translucent coats and fine details (subtle mottling and others).
Perhaps also, as I practice successfully with Vallejo and other acrylics, adding a drop or 2 of Pledge or equivalent as an additive to the mixture can improve their surface tension and shine?.
BR from France 🇨🇵 🤝🏻
Thanks for the suggestions 😊
Hi Matt, thanks for the review, I have never used these paints, so this review is most welcome. The paints seem to brush paint well for detail parts but do not do well when airbrushed.
I think that I will stick with the paints that I am currently using instead of adding yet another paint range to my shelf, cheers Matt.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Matt, do you know what paints Miniart uses?
As far as I know miniart don’t have their own paints but include conversion table for all the main brands for the recommended colours in the kit
@@ModelMinutes I found the conversion table on the sprue map page of my Miniart T-34/85.
@@rasheedkorb9877 that’ll be it, so you can pick your favourite brand
@@ModelMinutes I'll probably convert the paints to humbrol.
Hello
Hi!
Acrylic paints are simply wood glue with pigments mixed in, bound to fail, Enamels are way better! 👎
I don't think that is even remotely true - wood glue (PVA) is poly vinyl acetate, not acrylic
'Acrylic' paints cover a variety of formulas with different properties, and I would like to know where you got for information from. As a lifelong modeller (70 next year) I grew up with enamels, but switched to acrylics a number of years ago when my children were young. I had to learn different techniques, but so far as I am concerned, that is what modelling is all about. I am quite happy with them and get quite good results.
Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for watching
I’ve put a few of the Gen 2 paints through my Iwata HP-CS. Very happy with the results. Used a 50/50 ratio.
Good to know, perhaps I needed an extra drop of thinner on some of my test paints
@@ModelMinutes also I use a nail varnish vibrating paint mixer thingy, to ensure the paint is well mixed. A few thin coats of paint is better than few less of thicker. I will typical paint 2-3 coats for a 1/72 scale model.
i really need to get a paint mixer :) @@akula9713
I like it but it's a little inconsistent so getting it right for airbrushing is a tad hit and miss compared to specialist airbrush paints like Vallejo Model Air, I think it's more a competitor for Model Colour. I wonder what Humbrol include in their mystery box? Are there any Gen 2 or is it loads of crusty turquoise and metallic pink pots?
I can’t say I know what’s in the mystery box, probably old stock 🤷♂️