"Klingon Battle" with the V'ger Cloud - Star Trek TMP Remade
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Looks better in HD on Vimeo vimeo.com/55773817
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Interior dialogue scenes omitted for copyright reasons and replaced with new exterior shots. I wish I could have made the V'ger cloud seem more dynamic and ominous, it looks kind of flat. Also I thought it was a bit too green, this is corrected in the Enterprise and V'ger encounter video.
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3D Models:
KLINGON BATTLE CRUISER
Model by Prologic9
Conversion by David "KnightRider" Metlesits
V'GER
Model by Lt. Kevin Riley
Music by
Jerry Goldsmith
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I will say, especially when the V'Ger torpedo is approaching the Klingon ships, you certainly managed to capture just how damn VAST space is (for me, at any rate)
Jerry Goldsmith's score is absolutely brilliant during this particular sequence.
If this scene was a musical encounter, it might be most properly labeled as ( In Japanese Sci-Fi Monster terms ) 'Celine Dion, Whitney Houston and Beyonce' meet Sarah Brightman'.
BUT THE SOUNDS - - - were invented by CRAIG HUXLEY [www.imdb.com/name/nm0402137/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm] - NOT Jerry Goldsmith.
Enrique Sanchez he invented the instrument but played according to goldsmiths composition. It was goldsmith creative decision to use the blaster beam.
It’s brilliant in every scene!
Jerry’s iconic score makes this cosmic tale come alive.
A living machine of unspeakable power, whose mission was to “learn all that was learnable” about the universe… till it gathered so much knowledge and power, it became conscious.
Very nice job. I like how you combined the 'classic' shots with brand new ones. It's like seeing old and new working together, and very well at that.
I was on the edge of my seat the entire time. This scene creates more atmosphere than the entire 2009 Star Trek attempt. Thanks for the upload, it looks great.
wow. thanks for making this! as a kid this was one of my all time fav sci-fi scenes. would watch the scene over and over on vhs - while rarely ever watching the full movie
Brilliant! You've managed to augment the sequence from the original in both sound and vision. Also improved sequencing in the fact that we see all three Klingon cruisers destroyed by the immensely powerful cloud. The switch to the Epsilon 9 Space Station in the original sequence was a distraction. Most excellent, and very impressive! Congratulations!
Seriously, very nice job. This was obviously a labor of love and I always enjoy that level of talent.
I remember seeing "ST:TMP" in the theatre as a kid with my dad in 1978. Even though I was familiar with high-quality FX after seeing "Star Wars," for some reason, I expected this film to look exactly like the lower-budget TV show (eh, I was 8.) Needless to say, I was blown away by the actual film.
Again, nice job!
At 2:37 I really love the reveal of V'Ger's energy blasts. Nothing bombastic but subtle enough for you to think "Oh sh*t" The starship equivalent of a good horror scene playing out.
I'm like Chris Schuette above and saw the film in the theater. In retrospect yes it is long and tedious. But at the time I was utterly awestruck by how totally real everything felt. Just seeing the Klingon cruisers from different angles, with bridges that looked like feudal castles with their windows all lit up astounded me.
Pacing and timing was spot on, down to what was not seen, but implied on the Epsilon Nine monitors (when the first Klingon got fried). Beautifully done.
I've always thought of V'ger's weapon as some kind of transporter device. It "beams up" an object and turns it into a digital data stream, much like a normal transporter would, but instead of making the object rematerialize somewhere else, V'ger stores the object in its memory... permanently.
Great video, by the way.
I have seen a bunch of these redoing the Klingon Battle but, THS is the Best I've seen! I love it!
VideoSpaceFX 15.2K subscribers The Klingon K't'inga class Battle Cruiser's and V'Ger look totally awesome.
No matte lines and better lighting! Fantastic!
I downloaded the original scene in 2006 and this makes me D class happy. Middle ship never shown in demise. Cool video Thank You!
Star Trek the great Sci-Fi TV show where a space battle is about as exciting as a submarine fight
The entire battle took place at Warp. The Klingons intercepted V'Ger traveling through their territory at Warp velocity - hence only that Battlegroup being in position, and close enough to intercept V'Ger as it passed though Klingon space.
This is extremely impressive. For a minute I thought I was watching the film. Kept waiting for the bridge scene.
Copyright be dammed, add in a few actor scences, send it to shatner or load on to vimeo. This is so well done.
excellent sequence well executed - for all its flaws i think the original film is still one of the best designed sci fi films ever and was it oscar nominated for production design ?
Yes it's a bit more than in the original, but I'd say it gives the weapon a sense of awesome energy. For a serious flare overload there was a movie made in 2009 by JJ Abrams, I forget the name though.
I think it's the Cloud in it's entirety and the filament structures are only visible as you get much closer rather like Saturn's rings look like solid structures.
Very impressive Martok!! Looks a lot better in CGI without the matte lines!
Brilliant! I love it! You have excellent skills. I congratulate you!
On thing I would have liked to see (time count 0.30) was more independent movement from each Klingon ship as the camera traced the rear of the ships heading into the cloud. I always thought this was a mistake in the original film (done for cost reasons...one ship was photographed and then matted three times into the composite to make the scene appear to have three ships). It would have been nice to see, perhaps one ship twist into the 180 degree plain and for minor variations in their flight path. You did a great job addressing this error of the original film in your later shots where more independent movement is shown. Well done!!! :)
@VideoSpaceFX Exactly. Some of my speculation is actually based on what was described in the novelization of the film. The warp speed interceptions of the Klingon cruisers - and later, the Enterprise - were described there in greater detail.
Stunning. Simply stunning.
I don't know where you get that idea from. The Klingons were depicted as noble and honorable people in two episodes of he original series. Day of the Dove and Errand of Mercy both demonstrated Klingons as being both very brutal and cultured. They absolutely had a code of honor. "Only a fool fights in a burning house!"
You got to love the Klingons.
"Captain, there is a giant cloud of energy heading through the neutral zone! It will pass through our sector of space in two hours!"
"Tactical! What is it's current heading?"
"Earth!"
"Lock in an intercept course. Inform Imperial command on Qo'noS and tell them we are moving to engage!"
"We are attacking a cloud Captain?"
"Nothing moves into Klingon space without a response from the Empire!"
Also V'ger was 2 AU in diameter, or roughly 186 million miles across. Even at warp it takes a fair amount of time to get far enough away.
this scene is still on of the most hair raising in SciFi. its atmosphere is PERFECT.
Brilliant work! really nicely done. Has anyone but me ever wonder why the K'tinga's especially the last one just didn't cloak. would have been interesting to see if the probe collectors still could have found them once cloaked. or at least the last ship could have escaped.
Spectacularly done
@BygPhattyPlus -I could be wrong, but I don't think the K'Tinga class battle cruisors had warp capability. They were built stricktly for short range battles and protecting the Klingon border. The K'vort class warbirds, however, did have warp capability. They could strick from anywhere in the quadrant.
Actually they didn't leave out the warp effect. The effects were more akin to the series than what came later. The streak effect started in STII. In TOS and TMP, the stars just moved by fast.
Part of the reason they didn't jump into warp was that it would have been seen as an act of cowardice. Klingon doctrine is very clear that cowards don't live. Also, the actual designation for this class of ship is D7T. This ship was designed to match the new Enterprise class cruisers. It was a reactionary design. Sadly enough for the Klingons, their shielding had not improved along with their weapons. Klingon ships were designed to attack in wolfpacks.
They were at warp at the time. If V'ger and the Klingons were traveling at Impulse speed the Klingons could have used their disruptors. Also, the klingons were traveling at warp opposite V'ger so it's rather hard to tell if they're moving at warp or impulse. :D
@captjami Thanks. The only problem with that is the copyright issue with using footage from the film.
I think I added a gradient material onto the model in 3D and keyframed it so that it moved from one side to the other how I wanted. Using that in addition to a normal render of the ship allowed me to create the effect of the disappearance along with multiple instances of lightning.
I'm a big fan of the D-7/K'tinga design. Sadly, we got stuck with a Romulan "Klingon" ship in Star Trek 3 and due to budget constraints it was the only Klingon ship we saw for several seasons of Next Generation except for one lonely D-7. Now we have writers who don't even know that Klingon ships aren't called "Warbirds".
My god, Jim, that's amazing!
Fast-Forward to 2410, and you get the occasional ship where its everything-vaporiser torpedo just splats like a bug on a windshield...
This is my favorite vid from you mate, nice!
@blindandwatching
Yes I tend to ignore depth of field unless it's very easy to do, like for the ships in these scenes when one is obviously further away, but not the cloud as that would have made this even more painstaking!
Well, they were already running away, and I think there was a mutual understanding that they were completely outclassed. LOL
@Teletran35 They were already at warp speed. VGER was moving at warp speed, so the battle cruisers had to be moving at close to the same speed or it would have just flashed by them.
Absolutely ashtonishing work! Bravo!!!
@finalfrontier1701
Thanks, I like the Director's Edition more than the original, but some of the new effects for it looked bad for what you expect from a Hollywood movie, I remember being disappointed.
Well arguments based upon two sides of speculation are a bit pointless anyway... hope you liked the video.
@redgaridose The cloud is 2 AU, or 298 million kilometers (give or take a couple thousand km) and the ship is stated to be 70 kilometers long.
He speaks French to Minuet in "11001001," who speaks to him in French first. She tells him that all people are ultimately Parisians, to which Picard replies it is true. =)
Both V'Ger and the Klingon ships were supposed to be at warp. But at warp V'ger's cloud couldn't exist and the Klingon weapons wouldn't have fired. We also didn't see any warp trails.
I will take a guess that you mean the clicking sound that is part of the music track. I've always liked it too, cool Klingon-like sound. It is heard right at the very beginning when the ships first appear and continue throughout the music.
@VideoSpaceFX Hmm, that would explain it. Now I have to go watch it again to figure it out!
I still love the Klingon's immediate response was, blow it up.
Very interesting and well done video. I did have a tiny criticism/question: Was there a reason you chose not to show the photon torpedoes being "absorbed" by V'ger, since in the original film, the lead Klingon cruiser that fired the torpedoes were monitoring their progress to see if they had any effect, and one by one on the sensors, they simply blink out of existence? I've always found that to be a scary moment. I would have loved to see your interpretation of the torpedoes' fate outside.
Best scene in the whole of the TMP movie, although I think the recent director's cut of it is actually pretty darn enjoyable. Only the costumes seem bad.
Ace theme by Goldsmith.
i dont know how many times i watched the klingon battle against vger
I find it amazing that a ship of this size the Klingon's are portrayed as stupid enough to wanna try it on and arrogantly thinking yeah we only need 3 lol!
GOOD JOB!! My only critique, is that shouldn't the 3 Klingon torpedoes disappear at about 2:12 into the video?
Klingons "A cloud? What harm could it do?"
Thanks, but one piece of information. The radius of the cloud should be about the distance from the earth to the sun, 1 AU, which if my calculations are correct, can be covered at warp 1 in about 8 minutes or so, and I think it had been more than 8 minutes from when the Enterprise had entered the cloud's perimeter to when they penetrated the heart of the cloud. Clearly something like warp 9 would be able to put the cloud out of range very quickly, so I think the Klingons were still at impulse.
I don't think they would be afraid. The Q are after all omnipotent.
@TheTrueObelus I think in the film they were supposed to be fighting at warp speed.
Thanks. Yeah I would love to see the movies on a big screen, I'm 27 so I only saw Generations onwards at the cinema.
Great Job! Thanks for that!
I actually kinda liked it. Not TNG's greatest episode, but ... it does turn the tables on laboratory experimentation.
Well done!!!! Better than the original and the other cheap remakes.
Nicely done.
This is extremely impressive. I love especially the V'Ger weapon effects.
Can you explain how you did the lightning bolts when the weapon hits?
Is it a rendered effect or a post production effect?
What program(s) do you used to create that?
As always... that is a AWSOME job!!! :)
But... I did find a small error. But correct me if I'm wrong
2:00 - 2:13 In TMP the Klingon torpedoes vanished, one after another, without a trace.
Terrible argument. They were at warp, because V'ger was traveling FTL, and just because "You've never seen it." does not take into account that at the time this movie was made, this was the highest standard. In TOS they didn't ever show "stars rush by" the ship at warp. The Klingons were holding a close distance to V'ger via warp power. We also know this is true because The Enterprise is visibly at warp when it is near V'ger (Her engines only glow at warp)
I'm guessing that it's safe to say that the Klingon got Reamed and Steamed and turned to dust!
I could never understand why the last Battle cruiser didn't make the jump to warp speed
I love the theme
Thank you, I enjoyed it.
Good Job....I liked it
Lol, yes but they are actually caused by an alien weapon of awesome power here, not some random thing off-screen.
Love the disintegration scenes
Picard was French don't forget... the most British Frenchman who ever lived!
Great work!
I tend to thing the Klingons should've fired more than 3 torpedoes at the least. The V'ger cloud was rather large to put it mildly.
Also, do Klingon ships always travel in groups of 3 it seems?
This is Excellent !!
Well done.
I think the dialog could have been added in part or completely to improve it a little to keep some continuity with the original movie...
very cool
@cirian75 maybe it's because they are Klingons - anyone with sense would warp they tail out of there. But for a Klingon to runaway shows fear, Klingons don't like to show fear. But what puzzles me Klingons like to die in battle, so why did they turn around period. Even if they knew they had no chance of winning, Klingons tend not to retreat.
@Zorolord
For Klingons it is not always a good day to die...
Clicking sound?
the egg wont accept impregnation from klingons
Considering Picards legendary arrogance, which is very French, at least he was written as the stereotypical Frenchman, sometimes. The only thing that would scare him would be the Germans but by the 24th century, the British have probably driven them to extinction as well. All Hail Pax Britannia!!
1:45--"Ish...BAKHT!!!"
Nice job.
Lol, "...there's something amazing going on off screen" - well why can't we bloody see it then?!!
very good
@TheTrueObelus They were at warp.
I still don't get why the cruisers didn't go to warp after the first one was , for lack of better terminology, erased.
soo how big is v`ger actually???
What was this made in?
Thinking, "Now would be a good time to jump into warp"
Rent or buy the special edition. They re shot some scenes and you get to see V'ger in its entirety.