I swear I really hope we get a live action DC show from HBO with all the cw actors that would be so nice even if it's just one season of each show for a true final season just to bring them back and then make one big ultimate season with all the DC heroes all combined with like at least a good 20 episodes if they can make that happen or they could just do stuff like how they got the penguin TV show like little movie wise series like that I think that'd be really dope to still use these actors or the actors from the actual movies
10:33 Everyone is just so used to the cape that it would look weird/out of place if he didn't have one, just like how it looked out of place when Oliver fought with the hood down in Arrow season 7. Bro had the hood back up for the final season even though everyone knew who he was under the hood
Michael Cudlitz did an interview recently where he said he wasn’t meant to be in this episode because, as you said, he’s the director. However the writers made some late changes that he thought were good and didn’t take up much time. Bear in mind a few cast members have said they’ve been given one less day to shoot per episode than previous seasons as part of the budget cuts, so maybe the debate isn’t the main focus of the episode. The previous teasers have all been misdirections. The ‘sharp dressed man’ could refer to the boys getting super suits.
Had been binging this AWESOME Show from S1 to S4 while on vacation, yet still because of my HBOMAX one episode short which is 407. Can’t wait for this one! So glad JON got powers
With a limited budget, this is a smart move - they can have flashbacks to the previous seasons as lex / Lois talks about how superman acted in the past
Last episode got we thinking about this show handled Superman revealing his identity so well with him talking to Lois and the boys about it because it could ruin there lives. Meanwhile, Supergirl in the Arrowverse did it with no regard for Earth Prime Superman, Lois, and the people at the DEO. One thing that people bring up is that if the world knows Superman and Supergirl are cousins and they know Clark is Kara's cousin that outs his identity. And if so that would like ruin Lois' life as her Pulitzers would likely get revoked due to knowing Superman. Sometimes similar could happen in this episode.
@@saintzeroinfinity Well, she does tell people that she is Cousins with Clark, and if people know she is Supergirl. It's not hard to realize that someone in her family is probably Superman. I'm not sure if the world knows Superman and Supergirl are cousins nessissarily, but it wouldn't be hard to figure it out post reveal.
@@saintzeroinfinity But if they know Superman and Supergirl are cousins and that Kara and Clark are cousins. And they know Kara is Supergirl, it's not hard to put together that Clark is Superman.
@@Michael-mo1lx heck I always assumed it just fitted with the suit under all his other clothes. Hence why he used to wear the trench coat or blazers back in the day. I read somewhere the said he used to put it in his wallet. Sounds crazy but this is a world of superhero’s.
If this looks, Luther has a 13th level intellect like brainiac like he does in the comics he can easily defeat low lane in a conversation of wit and logic and basically make it look stupid and like a liar
You're conflating intellect (specifically advanced understanding of complex mathematics/science/technology) with debate skills, wisdom and an ability to explain things in a way the common person can identify with.
In the Comics yes he's a 13th level intellectual ( After he's upgraded by Brainiac) . But this version has never encountered Branic & is clearly an even lower intellectual then the pre Branic 10th level he should be. Your Proof that this is the litteral Dumbest version of Lex Lutor ever is the fact he didn't even pay attention to the news enough that he was ignorant of the fact there was a mother Super powered being (before he encountered them). Remember this version Kara Zor-El either doesn't exist or is already dead.
Page your forgetting when they confirmed the Irons claim from another universe they confirmed the steal suit in atheist tin pad/ base form is a Lex O Suite.
It’s interesting how Lex’s grudge/purpose honestly seems to be revenge on Lois more so than Superman. Almost like how a gang might go after one’s family to make them suffer. Edit… I paused the video right before you said this lol. Thanks for another great video Pagey!
I have a feeling that Lex might actually tell everyone about the super family secret during the debate. Since he knows that Jordan and Jonathan has powers. That would be the most surprising thing that could happen in this episode. That’s why Jordan and Jonathan look very pissed and confused at each other. Everyone knows now!!
@@christopherlopes7321 that’s maybe why Clark decided to come clean himself and tell everyone himself because he knew lex might tell them himself everyone know Clark and Lois are married
@@karenbell5309 yeah but Jordan already exposed himself to Lex and now he knows that Jonathan has powers since he took down one of his goons. Don’t forget that he has that phone voicemail that Lois had to choose between Jordan and Johnathan, which she decided on Johnathan. But Clark didn’t know about that. So she’s in big trouble now!!! Everything is gonna get exposed!!!!!
Lois should not go on live TV with lex. Lex is smart he would not be challenging her if he didn't already know something that she doesn't. Give credit where it's due and lex is a genius in all the superman movies so if she does go on live TV with him something is going to come out that makes her look bad
This might be a stretch, but Lex is going to act like Daniel Hardman in season 2 of Suites. Daniel went around saying "Oh Jessica, I've changed." Who is staring in the Suites spin-off? Stephen Amell! "Lex Luthor, you have failed this Earth!"
By far my favorite Episode of season 4 He did it Revealed his secret to the World 🌎 with his family by his side Wow😱😱😱😱 what an Episode. I what to see 👀 what happens Next😱😱😱 thank you Pagey for your breakdowns i enjoy them so much thank you 😊 for asking my opinion.
@pagey im going on a limb and calling Tom cavanaugh to play milton fine aka Brainiac and also lex is gonna get his suit idea from irons daughter gojng to school in a lexcorp funded institution
Let's just end this series.....OMG they just have slowed the storyline to a standstill....literally with Clark transforming into Superman....slow mo! Sorry but I'm so disappointed since Doomsday did his disappearing act. Last few episodes are just fillers at best.
They were apparently working with a very tight budget. Looks like they are saving the big Lex/Luthor as the finale. There have been a lot of dramatic episodes with low-budget action. That doesn't mean they are bad episodes overall, but I am a bit tired of Lex being show as angry but not quite doing anything dangerous. I am hoping that he is not really just trying to discredit Lois & Superman. I suppose he will fail at this, and then finally he will actually do something really evil in the last two episodes.
Only 3 episodes left! 😭 I'm not ready to say goodbye to this show and the Kent family.
It's been over since Doomsday disappeared.
I swear I really hope we get a live action DC show from HBO with all the cw actors that would be so nice even if it's just one season of each show for a true final season just to bring them back and then make one big ultimate season with all the DC heroes all combined with like at least a good 20 episodes if they can make that happen or they could just do stuff like how they got the penguin TV show like little movie wise series like that I think that'd be really dope to still use these actors or the actors from the actual movies
🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧 i love This show ❤ sad 😢 it ending so sad 🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧🤧
Same here😭😭😭
10:33 Everyone is just so used to the cape that it would look weird/out of place if he didn't have one, just like how it looked out of place when Oliver fought with the hood down in Arrow season 7. Bro had the hood back up for the final season even though everyone knew who he was under the hood
Michael Cudlitz did an interview recently where he said he wasn’t meant to be in this episode because, as you said, he’s the director. However the writers made some late changes that he thought were good and didn’t take up much time. Bear in mind a few cast members have said they’ve been given one less day to shoot per episode than previous seasons as part of the budget cuts, so maybe the debate isn’t the main focus of the episode. The previous teasers have all been misdirections. The ‘sharp dressed man’ could refer to the boys getting super suits.
Had been binging this AWESOME Show from S1 to S4 while on vacation, yet still because of my HBOMAX one episode short which is 407. Can’t wait for this one! So glad JON got powers
Maybe there's going to be a spin off called Superboys!!!!!!!
Not with GUNN in charge....he's ruining the entire DC storylines.
No way because the era of DC tv show at CW ends with Superman and Lois
@@eman244tx James Gunn is the only thing keeping the dceu afloat right now lmao.
That would be awesome
@@nighthawk2548 you're lying because the old DCEU ended with Aquaman 2 the lost kingdom , the new DCU begins with creature commandos
With a limited budget, this is a smart move - they can have flashbacks to the previous seasons as lex / Lois talks about how superman acted in the past
In an interview he said episode 8 wasn't supposed to feature lex at all then a rewrite changed that
No doubt Lex has filmed (and edited) last weeks fight. She sent Superman to kill me...
Suprised you never covered the penguin pagey, it had no right to be that good but it was amazing
Last episode got we thinking about this show handled Superman revealing his identity so well with him talking to Lois and the boys about it because it could ruin there lives.
Meanwhile, Supergirl in the Arrowverse did it with no regard for Earth Prime Superman, Lois, and the people at the DEO.
One thing that people bring up is that if the world knows Superman and Supergirl are cousins and they know Clark is Kara's cousin that outs his identity. And if so that would like ruin Lois' life as her Pulitzers would likely get revoked due to knowing Superman. Sometimes similar could happen in this episode.
I'm hoping the last episode gives a chefs kiss goodbye to the cw ending
I don’t think the Clark/ Kara connection was ever made in the Supergirl series.
@@saintzeroinfinity Well, she does tell people that she is Cousins with Clark, and if people know she is Supergirl. It's not hard to realize that someone in her family is probably Superman.
I'm not sure if the world knows Superman and Supergirl are cousins nessissarily, but it wouldn't be hard to figure it out post reveal.
@@jeremymorris345 what? People know supergirl & Superman r cousins what they don’t know is that Kara Danvers is biological related to Clark Kent!
@@saintzeroinfinity But if they know Superman and Supergirl are cousins and that Kara and Clark are cousins. And they know Kara is Supergirl, it's not hard to put together that Clark is Superman.
I think that Lex is going to use a recording of that EPIC beatdown that Clark gave him before screaming about how they will "end" Lex.
The real question is where did Clark’s civilian clothes go when he revealed himself in the diner? It just completely disappears 🤣🤣🤣
Shoot, if you go by the original comics, he tucks it in his cape. Somehow super fold and compress in a little pocket in his cape. 😂
@@Raikage_RaisilHahahahaha noway good 1
@@Raikage_Raisiland where does the cape go under his clothers then?
@@Michael-mo1lx heck I always assumed it just fitted with the suit under all his other clothes. Hence why he used to wear the trench coat or blazers back in the day. I read somewhere the said he used to put it in his wallet. Sounds crazy but this is a world of superhero’s.
I don't get how lex is still able to walk free after all he did with doomsday lol and kidnapping a general in the army and they just let him walk free
No one knows that was Lex except the main cast. They just think Doomsday is a monster.
Also, how did he actually control doomsday?
If this looks, Luther has a 13th level intellect like brainiac like he does in the comics he can easily defeat low lane in a conversation of wit and logic and basically make it look stupid and like a liar
You're conflating intellect (specifically advanced understanding of complex mathematics/science/technology) with debate skills, wisdom and an ability to explain things in a way the common person can identify with.
Tom Cavanaugh is gonna be brainiac I'm calling it now
In the Comics yes he's a 13th level intellectual ( After he's upgraded by Brainiac) . But this version has never encountered Branic & is clearly an even lower intellectual then the pre Branic 10th level he should be. Your Proof that this is the litteral Dumbest version of Lex Lutor ever is the fact he didn't even pay attention to the news enough that he was ignorant of the fact there was a mother Super powered being (before he encountered them). Remember this version Kara Zor-El either doesn't exist or is already dead.
Page your forgetting when they confirmed the Irons claim from another universe they confirmed the steal suit in atheist tin pad/ base form is a Lex O Suite.
It’s interesting how Lex’s grudge/purpose honestly seems to be revenge on Lois more so than Superman. Almost like how a gang might go after one’s family to make them suffer.
Edit… I paused the video right before you said this lol. Thanks for another great video Pagey!
I have a feeling that Lex might actually tell everyone about the super family secret during the debate. Since he knows that Jordan and Jonathan has powers. That would be the most surprising thing that could happen in this episode. That’s why Jordan and Jonathan look very pissed and confused at each other. Everyone knows now!!
@ do you also remember the fight scene with the intergang with the flame thrower after he got powers. Now Lex knows about that as well.
Clark already told everyone himself remember the interview with Janet I think people will connect tge dots
@@karenbell5309 true
@@christopherlopes7321 that’s maybe why Clark decided to come clean himself and tell everyone himself because he knew lex might tell them himself everyone know Clark and Lois are married
@@karenbell5309 yeah but Jordan already exposed himself to Lex and now he knows that Jonathan has powers since he took down one of his goons. Don’t forget that he has that phone voicemail that Lois had to choose between Jordan and Johnathan, which she decided on Johnathan. But Clark didn’t know about that. So she’s in big trouble now!!! Everything is gonna get exposed!!!!!
Remember the lex Clark fight in red K lighting.... Keep this in mind
Lois should not go on live TV with lex. Lex is smart he would not be challenging her if he didn't already know something that she doesn't. Give credit where it's due and lex is a genius in all the superman movies so if she does go on live TV with him something is going to come out that makes her look bad
So what happened to doomsday? He just flew away?
Yeah everyone did a great job Tyler Is my second favorite live action Superman actor next to Christopher Reeves.
This might be a stretch, but Lex is going to act like Daniel Hardman in season 2 of Suites. Daniel went around saying "Oh Jessica, I've changed."
Who is staring in the Suites spin-off? Stephen Amell! "Lex Luthor, you have failed this Earth!"
Reporters almost always don't reveal there sources. Clark was the source of her reporting, so I dont see the problem.
Hey Pagey, I've been following your stuff since 2017. I was wondering, with the end of the CW Superhero Shows. Will your content be affected?
Who the series regulars for this one that are back?
I wish we had more action scenes this final season. Unless they got one coming up.
Man. If we weren't so close to the _series_ finale, I bet that bullet woulda ricocheted and hit somebody.
Way to short... should be way much more then 10 episodes
In what world would the public believe Lex Luthor over Lois Lane? The world of the United States today
Lex Luther did because president too
Overdramatic as usual
The Family Secret!!!
What the name of the book
You are wrong. That is Lex controlling as the director. He looks waaaaaaay too serious.
By far my favorite Episode of season 4 He did it Revealed his secret to the World 🌎 with his family by his side Wow😱😱😱😱 what an Episode. I what to see 👀 what happens Next😱😱😱 thank you Pagey for your breakdowns i enjoy them so much thank you 😊 for asking my opinion.
So did he ask for John Henry for his suit?
6:33 I got no way home vibe
is clark kent a legal immigrant / american citizen?
He was adopted by the Kents.
Why don't Superman rips lex's heart apart
s4 ep1 and 2 were so good others weak
Who Exposed Superboy cloud be Timmy or Lex
@pagey im going on a limb and calling Tom cavanaugh to play milton fine aka Brainiac and also lex is gonna get his suit idea from irons daughter gojng to school in a lexcorp funded institution
Great show season 5 comeing in the future
Very unlikely because it ends after four seasons you traitor
This version of Lex Luthor is in fact the Dumbest Version Ever.
Let's just end this series.....OMG they just have slowed the storyline to a standstill....literally with Clark transforming into Superman....slow mo! Sorry but I'm so disappointed since Doomsday did his disappearing act. Last few episodes are just fillers at best.
BROS AFRAID OF PLOT
Yep like the no wedding episode was significant storyline to plot? Get real.
@@eman244tx THAT WAS A MID PLOTLINE BUT THATS ONE EPISODE OF A MID PLOTPOINT AS THE MAIN PLOT POINT OF THE EPISODE
@@Enzo_Himself It's not DAWSON'S CREEK we are watching....give me a break let's get on with the action! This is a superhero show.
They were apparently working with a very tight budget. Looks like they are saving the big Lex/Luthor as the finale. There have been a lot of dramatic episodes with low-budget action. That doesn't mean they are bad episodes overall, but I am a bit tired of Lex being show as angry but not quite doing anything dangerous. I am hoping that he is not really just trying to discredit Lois & Superman. I suppose he will fail at this, and then finally he will actually do something really evil in the last two episodes.