It took 2000 + years for someone to finally come along and establish the truth of the resurrection of Jesus Christ? It’s more like a rehash of the same flimsy arguments for it. The most powerful and important being in the history of the universe should’ve done a better job. We wouldn’t have the confusion of the thousands of denominations who all believe they’re right and can show it via the Bible. The abrahamic god is a story of failure after failure in his inability to get his creation right.
God's ways are not our ways. God's time is not our time. God's mind is not our mind. The biblical narrative is coherent from the beginning to the end. I would encourage you to delve more deeply into the scriptures as I you will find the it all points to the deity, death, and resurrection of Jesus, which makes possible eternal life for you and I.
@@richardnavarro7020 That’s just a nice, deep sounding dodge of the issue. There’s a newish video over at Harmonic Atheist where the guest compares god to the alcoholic in the family. He’s never around when you need him and all you can do is make excuses for him.
'If Christ Jesus Did Not come back from the tomb, from all peoples we are the most miserable' quote by the Apostle Paul in 1st Corinthian 15, New Testament (in the Christian Bible)
Paul never had any direct evidence of the resurrection. Did he learn about it from "others" or did the "Lord" show him in a vision? Either way Paul is one of the first liars and spreaders of inaccurate information.
@@saltybits9954What direct evidence are you meaning? Saul was an intellectual, theologian, pharisee, and a roman citizen. He had no reason to completely flush that sweet life down the toilet by doing a 100% about-face one day and follow the very person he absolutely hated. Paul saw the risen Jesus with his eyes. Then he spent the rest of his life proclaiming the risen Lord. JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR!!! Why would anybody purposefully and knowingly LIE about something they didn't believe in a week ago??? Paul wasn't crazy because there is no evidence of that. He still had just as much schooled and worldly knowledge to test what he already knew and what he saw. He met with people and had further discussions on the matter most likely. GOD WANT'S US TO QUESTION THESE THINGS. Why would so many people in the world today still believe in these lies as you say? In fact a better question would be, why do you not want to believe in a man, Jesus, who historically did NOTHING ELSE BUT GOOD THINGS FOR HUMANITY? What did he lie about? AND BE SPECIFIC!!! When you answer remember this. There are people who have dedicated their lives to looking into the resurrection and have come up with very good evidence that it happened. Just because you don't like the flavor doesn't make it any less true.
This is a lesson for all Christians. Don't believe blindly. Give good reasons for your belief. Don't be afraid of doubt. Don't whip your kids (metaphor) if they challenge you on these topics. Arm yourselves with knowledge of the truth and become a shining beacon in the night, dispel the darkness with the light of truth, and thus build the Kingdom of God
Some are that form of liar that believe what they*want* to believe and the halfwit Habermas is one such; if you substitute fairies or unicorns for resurrection, it comes to the same thing
Belief requires no reason at all. Only blind devotion and the ability to lie to yourself. Doubt is reason trying to tell you that your beliefs are a bunch of fairytales and lies. You should listen.
You know, they collected all the greatest biblical scholars in a recent video here on youtube, called "Satan's guide to the bible"! Don't worry about the name its just a joke. You should watch it, they talk at great length about the bible in a way that audiences are really raving about!!!
@@canadiankewldude After reading the comments here, I checked a preview of the video, and yes, it was satanic and disrespectful. I hoped that it as just Christians talking about how satan deceives people about the Bible.
Rigggghhtt??! Oh the Irony… And he was bit by a rattlesnake! I’d show up with my big cup of water and and snack size chicka pop kettle corn to hear about this! 😂 🐍 💥
@@tarhunta2111 The Snake is a sign of sickness.. Hence the Serpent on the Cross. As the Cross is Jesus Christ healing the sick and afflicted..It's even used as the Medical Symbol worldwide..
Now go watch "Satan's guide to the bible" here on youtube (just search for it, it'll pop up - and don't worry about the name its just a joke :P) and enjoy a wonderful documentary on the bible, as discussed by many well-known biblical scholars!!! Yes, all your favorites will be there
I had Dr. Habermas as my teacher for one of my classes at Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary. I decided to do my paper for his class on the humanity of Jesus. My classmates thought I was nuts to deal with a subject that Dr. Habermas deals. I ended up with an A on that paper. I learned and am still learning so much from him.
What an absolute blessing. I wish all the lifelong biblical scholars would consider doing this type of project. Imagine how much knowledge has been lost to the grave at the passing of a scholar. Gary Habermas is a theological giant, and he blesses us with this series.
Thank you both for this terrific interview. Love it!! Dr Habermas is so well read, wise and warm-hearted as Prof John Lennox, two of my favourite Christian scholars, along with Sean + Josh McDowell, William Lane Craig, Lee Strobel, Justin Brierley, and Richard Bauckham. I have some follow up questions and would love to hear Dr Habermas' thoughts on it: 1) what does Dr Habermas think of the prophecies in the Old Testament that point to the Messiah? 2) the conversion of Saul of Tarsus who persecuted the early Christians and then became a Jesus follower himself, is a powerful evidence for Jesus' resurrection. Bart Ehrman disputes that by claiming Saul/Paul felt guilty and that's why he became a Christian. What would you respond? I would say Paul was a leading and renowned pharisee, he had a lot to lose and nothing to win when he became a Christian. And nobody is willing to die for something they KNOW to be a lie. 3) it is unlikely that the early church invented the authors Marc and Luke bc those men were not apostles, Luke even was not an eyewitnes himself. If the church had invented the authors they would have chosen the name of Peter, for instance. I heard Bart Ehrman say something along the lines that the names Marc and Luke could have been invented bc Marc knew Peter and Luke knew Paul, I think in a debate with Bauckham. I find that not convincing at all, why would the church chose no-names instead of Peter himself?
"And nobody is willing to die for something they KNOW to be a lie." According to what is written, he did not die because of what he knew, but rather for what he BELIEVED.
When my mother was 102 I was telling her the things Gary Habermas was saying. She listened for a while then looked at me and said, "Remember the Bible was dictated. Men may have recorded it but it was dictated."
That would be wrong. The Bible is not dictated. How would you understand the Bible properly if you do not understand Paul letters and Paul addressing the people with real issues and heresy and what the Prophets were saying. Look at what Jesus said about Moses on the laws, he said Moses allowed the certificate of divorce because of Israel hard hearts. I find Gary confusing by the way but I would try to listen. However reading the Bible and reason from there, seems more fruitful, that I will agree with your mother
Son of God come with a message that comes with a choice and there are important woman in the bible unlike other denominations that dontt even give women a choice women found the tomb empty
Instead of giving to the poor, like Jesus commanded, you bought a book that will make someone richer...not very Christian. Feeding hungry kids is more important than Gary's attempt at getting rich.
Is he worth the effort? I get frustrated everytime he speaks, so before I pressed Play, I came to the Comments section to see if he was his same old self - and, so far, you're the only one who is honest... 🫤 I'll try to listen to him one more time only because of your endorsement and because I'm hoping Sean can "moderate" him.
I find it difficult , it feels backwards. It feels negative to the Christian faith but more to appeal to scholarship. What should be straightforward forward examination of the evidence becomes like don’t do it, take what the sceptics say and work from there. This invites the question one sceptics to simply disagree with the other and there goes your argument. How does sampling provide evidence, by faith of the sceptics?
Praise the Lord for the redemption given. I got saved some years ago, and since then I have become an avid researcher of the Bible. I've gathered a lot of information that I synthesized and condensed. Feel free to browse me. I wish I could've found details like this somewhere else. I guess I'll just do it myself.
God bless Gary! When Sean asked him for the top 3 evidences WITHOUT the explanations, Gary explained them. Gary's passion makes it hard for him to answer simply. I've listened to him speak at several conferences but I find that I can't listen to him because he goes off on too many bunny trails when answering questions. He says, "okay, I'm going to list the top six." Then he proceeds to get lost in the weeds instead of simply listing them first for the listener THEN going back to expound on each one if necessary. I have tremendous respect for Dr. Habermas and I love his work. I have his books. But I find listening to him to be tedious.
adamcosper3308 I’m intrigued by your comment, is there something in a particular viewpoint of his that you’re contesting? Or not jiving with? And if so, I’m quite interested in hearing what that may be? Ya know, to back up your definitive statement on the man’s lack conversational and debating skill set. This was my first time seeing this guy myself actually!
@@adamcosper3308 whatever can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Maybe *you* try good argumentation and honesty so you can actually do something instead of just pretending you did.
@@richmle religion is total fantasy and habermas is a blowhard. and over the years sean has made up a lot of bollocks to fit the god narrative too, neither of them are trustworthy sources of information. there's no god either.
Serious question, not rhetorical at all, how do you mean? I believe Paul talks about a bodily and spiritual resurrection in a few verses: 1 Cor. 15:42, Romans 8:11, and Phil. 3:21, there may be more, but those are just the ones I know of. @@perfectblindguy
GOD was leading him on this journey all along for his glory I’ll probably read it though I need no proof because the Holy Spirit lives in me he is my confirmation but so I can minister better to someone who has doubts even then only GOD can give an unbeliever the revelation
Finishing up the program now and wanted to reflect on the blessing Gary is to the body of Christ. I spoke with him via email a few years about coming out to Arizona to speak to our pastors and he was so willing, his response sounded like he was ready to board the plane that afternoon. I sent information to my conference and talked him up and how he would be a blessing to our pastors, and it all fell on deaf ears. We sometimes just don't know the blessing that is set before us. If you come to Phoenix Gary, I would like to know because I would like to meet you. Blessings and good health. We need you to finish the other three volumes.
@@AmberGintaras Well Amber, "they" books can be useful. But tell me, what do you mean by only read the Holy Bible? Now, would that be only in the King James? ...and only for English? Because that is about how fundamental you sound. I think you're way over your head here. Try just listening to what these men are saying. They are not Higher Critics, but Bible believing scholars.
Jesus' ministry on earth was only about three and a half years and Gary's effort to support His cause is more than 50 years and still going! What a dedication! May the LORD bless him and put HIS face toward him and HIS light shines through him!
@00:19:02 - Sean and Gary's discussion of his dissertation prompted me to go look it up. There is not a single non-English source in the bibliography, which would be damning by today's standards for any work in history or theology, and Gary was writing back when the vast majority of critical biblical scholarship was taking place in German. Moreover, he identifies editorials appearing in the popular periodical "Christianity Today" as "scholarly articles." I have started reading it, and am now wondering how on earth this earned him a Ph.D. Maybe there is something more than what I am seeing so far.
I checked his bibliography and saw a number of references to non English sources E.g. Schweitzer, Bornkam, Bultmann, Schleiermacher, Schaafs, Pfleiderer,, Pannenberg, Mowinckel, Moltmann, Lessing, Harnack, Brunner, Strauss, von Balthazar. And the Christianity Today article that I saw was written by Edwin Yamauchi who is a bona fide scholar. To evaluate its appropriateness I think one would need to actually read the article.
@@deki5119 No. You did not. Look again. Every one of those citations in Gary's dissertation is to an English translation of a German original. Notice how many of them have included the translator in the entry. There are no German language sources in his bibliography. None. Only English translations. There are no sources written in any other language included, either. It is entirely English language scholarship, literature or English translations. Scholars write non-scholarly articles all the time. I have done so. But what is never done is confusing these popular publications for "scholarship," even when it is written by scholars.
@@DrKippDavis Oh he only cited English translations of German sources instead of the German version of German sources? In other words, he cited German sources. Holy fuck Kipp, you're an even bigger clown than I thought.
@@alecepting1371 No, I am suggesting that when someone does a Ph.D. touching on any field of biblical studies or theology, they usually would need good enough of a grasp of German, and probably French, to be able to navigate the extensive literature written in those languages. It is extremely odd for one to get through their Ph.D. without having to read any German or French sources. Gary's bibliography contains no non-English sources, which is very strange for a Ph.D. dissertation in this topic. Without knowing, it certainly provides the impression that he was not capable of navigating the volumes of extremely important German literature relevant to his thesis.
@@logicalatheist1065your pride and love of sin is what’s in the way of you coming to faith. Jesus turns down no one who seeks him with his whole heart. I hope that you can eventually come to faith. Please repent of your sin and trust in the Bible before it’s too late.
Bless you Sean an Dad Josh AND Dr Gary . DR Gary whom I've know for decades has done Jusus BODY a great honor..reminds me of princeton legend Dr Robert Dick Wilson ..
The greatest comprehensive presentations seem to come from the people who had deep doubts and did the footwork to prove to themselves that their faith was based in Truth. Dr. Gene Scott walked away, essentially became an agnostic until he realized his professors at Stanford just wrote the resurrection off without intellectually considering the evidence for even 5 seconds. Lee Strobel wrote a case for faith because he was being attacked spiritually and he intellectually worked thru what became the case for faith. Thank you, Dr. Gary Habermas for your passion and stick toitiveness
Don't think so since Habermas hasn't presented anything new in terms of verifiable evidence. Most of the refutation will be concentrated on his fallacious arguments. And most of them are already out there because Habermas is basically rehashing his old fallacious arguments.
While the medical evidence and Strauss critique on Jesus death are good, I think the best argument for Jesus' death is that all the primary sources (the New Testament documents) specifically state that he died. But there is absolutely no evidence showing that he didn't die. Also, Jesus prophesied that he was going to die.
My response (if i may) to:1:56:00 - 1:56:54 : #1. "yes we live in a world of pain and suffering but isn't it better that she be with Me than to stay here? #2. This is why Paul said "For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us." Rom 8:18
His argument boils down to 'If you cannot explain these alleged events to my satisfaction you should believe the least likely explanation'. These 'facts' can be explained, and even if we did not have an explanation it would not follow that therefore the resurrection occurred. Paulogia has a natural explanation and it seems very plausible. There could be many many natural explanations for all of these facts that we have access to now or just have not considered. Any of those natural explanations should be believed, the supernatural one should not be believed. More pages does not make the argument better.
If so, why do I have to google paulogia to find out who they are? If he had the credibility to come up with such great explanations, why aren't they well known and quoted? If you look, you can find many actual scientists with peer reviewed studies as contributions to their respective communities that embarked on the journey to disprove what the Bible tells us only to end up being believers and followers of Jesus Christ! The overwhelming majority of historians agree that Jesus and his apostles were real and that Jesus was crucified and that the apostles were suddenly willing to die to tell everyone they saw that they saw Jesus resurrected. It's time to wake up and repent!
Thanks God for Dr Habermas work. I watched the debate he had with Anthony Flew in The John Ankerberg Show about the resurrection and I believe in the debate Dr Habermas truly showed the love of Jesus Christians are to show to the unbelievers while ministering to them. The debate was also a way to minister to Dr Anthony Flew. I believe God used Dr Habermas to change Dr Flew from being an atheist to believe in the existence of God.
Hmm.. Acts chapter 9 Saul saw a light and a voice not a form. Those with Saul saw nothing. How then can it be said Paul saw Jesus in bodily form? Is there another scripture reference?
This is my dear uncle, and I can attest that he's just as great in real life - very genuine. :) My husband and I enjoyed discussing theology with him this past summer at our family reunion. ♥
aww @@melissah7471 that is so awesome! What a blessing to discuss theology with the best of the best! So jealous! It's also great to hear when one's kindness exceed's their scholarship - even more respect! Thx for your response - have a great 2024....and life lolll :) Send him my love and support! Excited to buy this book!
I just perceived, my utter sinfulness, and on the road to Hell, had heard the Gospel of the Death , Burial and Resurrection, the Holy Spirit convicted me to belieb upon Jesus Christ. All by hearing, and I believed by my faith on the Gospel, and immediately was saved, confirmed by receiving the Holy Spirit, and I am learning more every day to believe upon the New Covenant Grace Estate and how so loved by God 2 da Max I am by God being in Christ!! I learn daily about This Great grace estate of existence in the Word of God, THE JUST (me now in JC) shall live by faith!!!
Have you ever tried to understand quantum physics? It's just as abstract as spiritual stuff, but physicists use the term "evidence", even though there's nothing physical to show as evidence. Evidence is maybe convincing for one person and not another.
@@harlanlang6556No, quantum physics is nothing more than physics, where mechanisms are described at the quantum level that are different from those of classical physics. Thanks to quantum physics we have solar panels and lasers. That you don't know physics and believe it is something mystical is your problem. I did study physics.
@@raulhernannavarro1903 there are different aspects of quantum physics, some of which defies understanding (by that, I mean cause and effect). That there are different quanta (energy levels) is well-understood and the basis for lasers, but other topics like the Schrödinger equation, while being good at telling what is happening in quantum physics, it does not explain why it is happening, and that is why some say it is mystical (as in a mystery). There are various interpretations for that, such as the Copenhagen deterministic view and the many worlds view, but it's really a black box because as soon as we observe it (take a measurement), the wave function collapses and we don't know what was happening under the covers.
YHVH in ancient PICTOGRAPHIC Hebrew is HAND BEHOLD NAIL BEHOLD. He saves with HIS outstretched….arm and hand with nail in it. Cryptic and Conclusive to me
Both of these scholars are great! Thanks guys for your important work on our central Christian doctrine, with examining, testing, codifying, and sharing the truth of Jesus' Resurrection. Does the argument of the Roman soldiers assigned to the tomb still figure in the critical examination of the evidence? I wonder if its absence is what leads Ehrman to attempt to discount the known burial. Pilate and the Jewish leaders had vested interest in avoiding any of the possible excuses or mischief that could have been done with the body of Jesus. I'll have to read Gary's work to understand why it doesn't figure in the top 6 or so discussed facts and evidence.
"We have Paul's account, and Paul's an eye witness." Except that Paul was not an eye witnesses. "Paul interviews Peter and James, and they were eye witnesses." Says who? We don't have any records of Peter and James ever claiming to be eye witnesses to the resurrection.
@@cygnusustus Why do you say Paul is not an eye witness ? To claim he isn't you would have to have absolute knowledge about what he did or didn't see that contradicts all the hystorical data.
@@kilervgmmm "Why do you say Paul is not an eye witness ?" Because Paul never claimed to have seen the risen Jesus. He claimed to have had a vision of Jesus.
Hi to you guys, love this interactilon, casting away all doubts in the ressurection. I like what the doc said, he was writing & researching to answer his doubts. & i love this ❤
@@kilervgmmm By using reason and evidence. Merely repeating something does not make it factual (no matter how much the Republican Party wishes it did!)
@@cygnusustus The minimal facts argument hinges on the disciples believing that they saw the risen Lord. From there it says the best explanation of all the evidence is the resurrection. For this specific purpose the creed establishes/ is evidence that they believed in a resurrection.
Habermas spent all those years researching the empty tomb and never noticed that there isn't enough information in the Gospels for any critic to actually find it. Also, there's NOTHING in the Gospels that says ANYTHING about the tomb remaining empty. The Church of the Holy Sepulcher, which was considered to be Jesus' tomb by 4th century Christians, has spaces cut out for six bodies, not one. What a complete joke.
That's because it was Joseph or Arimathea's family tomb into which he put Jesus. Hence the multiple spots. But he buried Jesus there out of respect for him.
@@BibleFanatics > That's because it was Joseph or Arimathea's family tomb into which he put Jesus We don't know for certain that it belonged to Joseph of Arimathea, though. We do know that the Romans built a temple of their own on the site somewhere around 135 AD. There are stories of how the tomb was found under the temple but those stories also include the discovery of a cross that could heal sick people who touched it.
@@onlylettersand0to9 what proof do you have it's not his tomb? What evidence? We have the gospels and extra biblical testimonies that his body was stolen from the tomb. Two independent sources show it was Joesph of Arimathea. In four accounts of the gospels the womb know what tomb to go to. They followed Joesph and saw where his body was laid. So again how do you know it was a temple? How do you know it was not Joesphs tomb? Evidence and sources please. Otherwise the only good evidence we have are in gospels which show it was his tomb.
I've followed Dr. Habermas' work for years. He is so important in the study of the Resurrection. The Resurrection is the core of Christianity and its truth rises or falls on it. I think the Shroud of Turin can be important in helping people who need physical evidence.
@@LuciferAlmighty Not really. Maybe you haven't kept up with the latest information. Check it out. The carbon 14 test was very flawed and there is strong evidence from more modern light based spectroscopy tests that the shroud was indeed first century based. But let's face it, they couldn't make photographs from incredibly intense nuclear light that was still gentle enough not to singe the fabric in the 1300's either. Because that's what it is. And it emanated from inside the body, not the outside. That's a couple of the things, and there is a lot more than that, that you should check out if you're going to voice an opinion like that.
I have spent around 50 years reading and studying the scriptures. After reading through the Christian Bible 9 times, I say that most of the stories are great fairytales!
Maybe. These 11 plus Paul sure did pay quite a price for holding on to their belief in fairytales. Not necessarily convincing in and of itself, not easily dismissible either.
@@johncipolletti5611what the hell are you talking about? The Old Testament is 37 books. The Torah is 5 of 37 so how would anyone who actually studied the subject make such an obviously false statement that 5 of 37 is "most" of the O.T.? Way to show your ignorance in one failed sentence. Yet another internet expert.
50 years and thousands of hours in trying to prove something that if it was true would not lead to anyone needing to study that long. A big fail. Faith is a complete copout. Why would God want people to study for 50 years to get enough evidence to attempt to prove anything? If it’s true it’s true. If it’s not it’s not. Even at 50 years of studying he is still at square 1. Based on the evidence nobody has even proven a god exists and that would be groundbreaking and that person would get the Nobel peace prize. Let’s start there.
But yet you obviously believe that the earth exists via big bang theory, which, imo, there isn't any proof of AT ALL. It's laughable that atheists think a big boom happened suddenly, no purpose for life, it just happened? Good luck w/that belief system. I would much prefer to believe in an afterlife, and a world created /designed by an omnipotent creator=God. You may describe Creation theory as myth, however, you have no evidence to the contrary. Creator/God theory explains the complexities of the our existence. The age of the earth is not explained fully by "science", as they had to use a theory or a best guest to even measure the age of the earth, yet the bible contains history and science i.e. creation Every day more is being discovered that aligns more with Creative DESIGN as opposed to a random explosion that somehow created life!! Scientists studying the Grand Canyon's rock layers & the fossils (how they were grouped together, in rock, confirmed the flood & in doing so it also aligned w/ Bible history & confirmed the real age of the earth, which then makes Creation by God way more plausible. Not a fairy tale at all. Check it out if you dare.
I love this guy… he’s definitely from somewhere in the south with all of his slang usage, which I, myself, am quite familiar with, since I’m also from the south.🤗🥰
@@DrKippDavis is he really?!😅 Well, he has definitely been influenced by someone in the south must have visited there a few times are hung around some southerners!😉
@@GirlPaintsArt I mean, he has been teaching in Lynchburg VA for over 20 years now. Is that part of "the South"? (I'm a Canadian. I don't actually know anything.)
The gospels have no errors. Why are we so blind? These are notes from four classrooms of students. The titles tell it all . Confess your faith and eyes will be opened. Mark came in with the other 70. He was a young man.
Come on bro, 50 years? One topic? That’s suppose to rely on faith? Get a life man some things we’ll never know for sure just open your heart and live your life
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The very best argument you have is that some people in the first century BELIEVED in the resurrection. It's uncontested because it's a mundane claim. Unfortunately what you want your audience to incorrectly infer is "therefore they must have been true" which is contested by nearly everyone. A belief in a thing is not evidence that that thing is correct. You've been directly publicly repeatedly criticized about this, and you haven't yet acknowledged this glaring nail in the coffin of your entire body of work.
@@fynflorentine2512yeah, it's not as easy as either most Christians or most non Christians try to make it. Decades of study, even if I don't believe, I have respect for the research.
And years of medicine shows that once your dead your dead even your bible confirms this "Job 7:9 he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more". So is it lying or just another mistake?
If one reads more than just one verse, understanding increases exponentially. Job was in a deep state of bitterness and moaning over the condition he was now experiencing, so that all objectivity has flown from him. Humans begin life with a body, (flesh), a soul, and a spirit. The spirit is dormant until it should be quickened (made alive) by becoming regenerated by The Holy Spirit of God (see John 3). The body of flesh we are born with is a tent for our soul. It is this flesh body that, when it is no longer viable or useful, dies, and does not rise again, until the end of time's journey on earth. Those who only identify with their bodies of flesh, as being the whole expression of themselves, believe that once dead, always dead! But, as we learn, we are far more than our flesh bodies, and that resurrection of the dead, and the rising of the yet living, (Rapture of), life, at the end of days, will reveal that all is alive in one form or another. At that time (which is drawing ever nearer), we all will have made our final choice - to repent, and believe in Jesus Christ who was offered once for all, the Lamb of God who shed his sinless Blood to pay the price required to save unto eternal life, with Him, every soul who chooses Him. At this regenerative moment, the spirit of that soul also becomes alive (born again). The awakened spirit and soul believes in Jesus, repents, and is saved! " To wit, God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself" (2nd Corinthians 5:19a). Years of medicine is only able to address the fleshly body.....hopefully. God Himself made these bodies for us fearfully and wonderfully, so that we could journey through this three dimensional (4, if including time) experience. His IS AN ENORMOUS and incredible PLAN!!! ALL, IN LOVE.
This is ludicrous. It always truly puzzles me that Christians never stop and ask themselves why their God has made such an awful job at transmitting his story and his message which, if true, must be the most important thing ever communicated to humanity. If the Christian God exists, and he is truly omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent, etc, then his message must be the most important one ever, yet he chose to transmit it in one specific place, within a relatively primitive culture, written decades afterwards in a language (Greek) not spoken by most of the principal characters in the story, and written in a book which has allowed for a vast range of interpretations. Even conservative Christian scholars agree that the synoptic gospels are all anonymous and if pushed to be very specific they will concede that the only named person who claims to be an eyewitness of the resurrected Jesus is Paul. Even so, there are three versions of Paul’s encounter with Jesus in the Acts of the Apostles, all of which could fairly be characterised as some form of vision or psychotic event Surely Christians should at least consider that their God has done a very bad job? After all, the stakes couldn't be higher . . . Salvation or Damnation. Even if a Christian thinks that there isn’t a problem, even if they think that the tortuous attempt by Habermas and other apologists to try and wrangle some sense and credibility out of the many evidential problems with the Bible is a worthwhile way to live, then I have one question for them. Could the evidence be better? Surely an honest Christian couldn't deny that it could be better? For example, as a basic minimum we could have the original texts of the Bible instead of anonymous copies. We could have the text be so clear that the need for interpretation is non-existent, it could be so clear that it wouldn't have generated a vast range of interpretations (and denominations) even amongst Christians. Just ask a Catholic and a Calvinist to tell you about their beliefs and see what I mean. This being the case what we seem to have is a "perfect being" transmitting the most important message ever in what is clearly an imperfect way. A "perfect being" doing something imperfect. Really? I simply shake my head. This is ludicrous.
Thanks for your response. I really appreciate it. As I said in my previous post, the overwhelming consensus amongst both Christian and non-Christian scholars is that Mathew, Mark, and Luke are anonymous texts. If you doubt that this is the consensus please research this and you will see what I am saying is true. It would be foolish for me to lie when you and anyone else reading this could check. The reason that the gospels have names attached to them is simply Church tradition. They are not eyewitness testimonies. You mention the Apostolic Fathers, and this is what I mean bv Church tradition. There are, however, extremely Conservative Christian (mostly Protestant evangelical scholars) who make the claim that the gospels are not anonymous, but this is because they let their desire that the Bible be inerrant override the facts. Most Catholic scholars don't take this stance; instead they rely on church tradition but when pressed they will admit that, strictly speaking, the only honest answer is that the synoptic gospels are in fact anonymous. For obvious reasons, priests and pastors seldom mention this as it can be a factor in undermining peoples' faith There are many good r,easons for believing that they are anonymous, not least the fact they they have been dated to 50, 60, 70 years after Christ died when the Apostles would have been long dead. Also, they were written in Greek which Mathew and Mark would not have been able to write. I could go on, but it's all there for you if you want to research it. Of course, understanding and accepting that the Gospels are anonymous does not prevent anyone from believing in Christianity, it simply enables them to judge the claims of their faith on the basis of facts not untruths. However, the fact that the gospels are not written by eyewitnesses is a major problem for the claims of Christianity. Hope this helps. @@fynflorentine2512
You know coming back to this, I realized...isn't this all kind of silly? God requires you to believe and repent to Jesus in order to go to heaven. Supposedly that's what God wants too since he loves us so. And yet, we have this guy who has spent over 50 years reading bronze-age stories in order to try to prove it is real to modern audiences. Doesn't that just seem absurd? Why should it be *this* hard to prove God's existence? Why does it all hinge on a single story about resurrection from 2000 years ago? Doesn't the whole thing just seem logically absurd? Doesn't it suggest that the Christian story just isn't real?
I believe it isn’t about proving that God exists. These people dedicate their lives to this because science and faith go hand in hand. It’s meant to be together and we’re encouraged as Christians to not just believe whatever is spoon fed to us. We must have evidence-based faith. Apologists like Sean don’t seek out to prove God’s existence, instead they seek out to deliver God’s message in logic. Hope this helps. You can send me a message if you want to talk. I hope you and your family are well and that you’re having a great day ❤️
This was interesting and agreeable for the most part until around 1:31:57, when Dr. Habermas began to assert a series of surprisingly weak arguments, as follows: 1. That our resurrection body would be a physical one like Jesus', referring to 1 Cor. 15, as if Paul wrote of a bodily resurrection for all the saints of God, meaning the physical raising of the dead. Paul clarified that the raised 'body' will differ from the buried body. "37 And what you sow is not the body that is to be, but a bare kernel,... 42 So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable; what is raised is imperishable." - To imagine God would raise up humans from the dead in a physical body is to be ignorant that in God's design, the physical needs to repeat the cycle of life, which necessitates decay and death in which the Gospel is permanently imprinted. Hence, Paul wrote in verse 50, "I tell you this, brothers: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable." The physical cannot inherit eternal life, which is spiritual. The resurrection Paul meant was spiritual, first of all that of the Old Covenant saints from Sheol into the presence of God (Heaven). We read in Hebrews 9 and 11 and in Rev. 6 how these saints eagerly awaited it. - In verses 51 - 53, Paul reveals that when they die, those still alive will not all sleep (in Sheol) but will be changed in the twinkling of an eye. Paul wasn't writing about the rapture most Christians are looking forward to. - The death swallowed up by victory is spiritual death, the sting of which is sin. Since the Old Covenant Law gives the power to sin and will end with the impending destruction of the temple Jesus spoke of in the Olivet Discourse, victory will be won over spiritual death! - this resurrection event will release the souls from Sheol forever. That happened in AD 70 when the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed along with its cultic practice. Christ ended the OC age and brought in the New Covenant Christian age, which has no end where Jew or Gentile is immaterial. - And we shall be in heaven when we die because Sheol is cast out. 56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 2. Another of Dr. Habermas' errors concerns Jesus' statement in Matt. 24: 34 about His returning before that generation passes away. - Based on Jesus' proceeding statement that the day and hour no one knows, Dr. Habermas interprets “γενεὰ” (genea) as race instead of what is consistently translated as “generation” in the New Testament. - Jesus knew the generational time frame but not the specific day and time detail, something Dr. Habermas didn't consider. - He also didn't catch the nuance of the Hebraic term 'the day and hour no one knows,' which the early Jews understood as the new moon festival, which Jesus could very well have hinted at. It turned out that the temple was destroyed in AD 70, around the time. - Dr. Habermas chose to ignore wholesale Matthew 16: 28, where Jesus specifically said that some standing there will not taste death before seeing His coming in judgment. - He's clearly one of many scholars with a willing ignorance about the modern-day Jews not at all ethnically related to 1st-century Jews of the Old Covenant period. 70 AD ended that age and ensured no one could claim racial pedigree anymore to enter the Kingdom of God. Christ is the only way ever since. 3. Finally, Dr. Habermas contradicts himself, hoping to be in heaven with his loved one while assuming we're still living in the same era as the writers of the NT who were waiting for Christ's return. If Dr. Habermas believed Jesus had yet to return, in death, he could only look forward to still being asleep in Sheol until then and not being raised in heaven. "25 At that time Jesus declared, “I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children; 26 yes, Father, for such was your gracious will." - Matthew 11: 25 - 26
I just subscribed because you seem to have some pretty detailed videos and regularly engage with the apologetics community. Looking forward to watching your old stuff and any new stuff especially responding to Habermas. I don't usually like people going after folks viciously for their credentials/academic past but a simple neutral breakdown can certainly be appropriate (like saying Habermas' thesis wasn't published atypically and that his current publisher isn't an academic publisher)
@@samuelblackmon Thanks for the sub. I fear that you will be disappointed on two fronts: 1) I have taken a bit of a hiatus from video production to do more writing, and 2) I tend not to deal much with the New Testament. But, don't let those scare you off!
@@CCiPencil Which jesus, dear? you christians have so many versions. It's hilarious how you cultists all utterly fail to be able to do what your bible has jesus promising to his true believers. You, sean, gary, et al are frauds per your own nonsense. "Jesus can give you life, if you repent and trust in him"
Thank you Dr. Habermas for your dedicated research focused on establishing the truth of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. 🙏
There is no research behind Christianity. It’s a mythological fairytale. Talking snakes, talking donkeys. Lol
It took 2000 + years for someone to finally come along and establish the truth of the resurrection of Jesus Christ? It’s more like a rehash of the same flimsy arguments for it. The most powerful and important being in the history of the universe should’ve done a better job. We wouldn’t have the confusion of the thousands of denominations who all believe they’re right and can show it via the Bible. The abrahamic god is a story of failure after failure in his inability to get his creation right.
God's ways are not our ways. God's time is not our time. God's mind is not our mind. The biblical narrative is coherent from the beginning to the end. I would encourage you to delve more deeply into the scriptures as I you will find the it all points to the deity, death, and resurrection of Jesus, which makes possible eternal life for you and I.
@@richardnavarro7020 That’s just a nice, deep sounding dodge of the issue.
There’s a newish video over at Harmonic Atheist where the guest compares god to the alcoholic in the family. He’s never around when you need him and all you can do is make excuses for him.
@@bobloblaw4102 the truth was always there. You have the freewill though to believe it or not
'If Christ Jesus Did Not come back from the tomb, from all peoples we are the most miserable' quote by the Apostle Paul in 1st Corinthian 15, New Testament
(in the Christian
Bible)
That is definitely proof
Paul never had any direct evidence of the resurrection. Did he learn about it from "others" or did the "Lord" show him in a vision? Either way Paul is one of the first liars and spreaders of inaccurate information.
@@saltybits9954What direct evidence are you meaning?
Saul was an intellectual, theologian, pharisee, and a roman citizen. He had no reason to completely flush that sweet life down the toilet by doing a 100% about-face one day and follow the very person he absolutely hated. Paul saw the risen Jesus with his eyes. Then he spent the rest of his life proclaiming the risen Lord. JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR!!!
Why would anybody purposefully and knowingly LIE about something they didn't believe in a week ago??? Paul wasn't crazy because there is no evidence of that. He still had just as much schooled and worldly knowledge to test what he already knew and what he saw. He met with people and had further discussions on the matter most likely. GOD WANT'S US TO QUESTION THESE THINGS. Why would so many people in the world today still believe in these lies as you say? In fact a better question would be, why do you not want to believe in a man, Jesus, who historically did NOTHING ELSE BUT GOOD THINGS FOR HUMANITY? What did he lie about? AND BE SPECIFIC!!!
When you answer remember this. There are people who have dedicated their lives to looking into the resurrection and have come up with very good evidence that it happened. Just because you don't like the flavor doesn't make it any less true.
Please do more of these book reviews I love these kinds of shows. I have bought a lot of books on these show recommendations.
On it!
This is a lesson for all Christians. Don't believe blindly. Give good reasons for your belief. Don't be afraid of doubt. Don't whip your kids (metaphor) if they challenge you on these topics. Arm yourselves with knowledge of the truth and become a shining beacon in the night, dispel the darkness with the light of truth, and thus build the Kingdom of God
Ive found that christians that grew up being allowed to think and question (not out of rebellion) are the ones that have the most solid faith.
Some are that form of liar that believe what they*want* to believe and the halfwit Habermas is one such; if you substitute fairies or unicorns for resurrection, it comes to the same thing
@@vhawk1951kl alright brother ♥
"I do believe in spooks. I do. I do. I do "--Cowardly Lion, The Wizard Of Oz..
Belief requires no reason at all. Only blind devotion and the ability to lie to yourself. Doubt is reason trying to tell you that your beliefs are a bunch of fairytales and lies. You should listen.
Thank you both for your contributions. I can only imagine how painstakingly long its been but the deep satisfaction you must feel
Great scholar !! His knowledge on the resurrection of Jesus Christ is brilliant. He has indeed done his homework !! ✝️👍
You know, they collected all the greatest biblical scholars in a recent video here on youtube, called "Satan's guide to the bible"! Don't worry about the name its just a joke. You should watch it, they talk at great length about the bible in a way that audiences are really raving about!!!
@radscorpion8 Um...yeah, no, I think we will pass...
@@justin10292000 Agreed there Justine and thank you for standing up on this.
@@radscorpion8great video 😅
@@canadiankewldude After reading the comments here, I checked a preview of the video, and yes, it was satanic and disrespectful. I hoped that it as just Christians talking about how satan deceives people about the Bible.
The irony of this author also being an actual snake hunter in his free time is hilariously underrated 😂😂😂
Rigggghhtt??!
Oh the Irony…
And he was bit by a rattlesnake!
I’d show up with my big cup of water and and snack size chicka pop kettle corn to hear about this!
😂 🐍 💥
Seriously lol that’s awesome
The snake is a sign of wisdom.
Another Point, God has kept him alive after he’s been bitten by a snake, Wow God IS is good, and by his Grace!
@@tarhunta2111 The Snake is a sign of sickness.. Hence the Serpent on the Cross. As the Cross is Jesus Christ healing the sick and afflicted..It's even used as the Medical Symbol worldwide..
Props to this man! He is a real pillar of God for us!
Now go watch "Satan's guide to the bible" here on youtube (just search for it, it'll pop up - and don't worry about the name its just a joke :P) and enjoy a wonderful documentary on the bible, as discussed by many well-known biblical scholars!!! Yes, all your favorites will be there
Your god loves sex slavery 😂 Christianity is a cult
he sure is, he'll twist history to fit!
Imagine a god needing a human to clear up it's mistakes... Lol 😂
@@logicalatheist1065who says he needs to prove he exists? He already does. How are you so blind you can’t see that it’s not for God but for you
I had Dr. Habermas as my teacher for one of my classes at Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary. I decided to do my paper for his class on the humanity of Jesus. My classmates thought I was nuts to deal with a subject that Dr. Habermas deals. I ended up with an A on that paper. I learned and am still learning so much from him.
Tslk about the blind leading the blind
Brother i experience his resurrection and removing my sins;failures, disappointments!(daily) thank you Jesus for the joy of salvation!
Jesus was here only for the Jews.
@@perfectblindguy Why?
Jesus came and atoned for ALL mankind ❤
Glory to God Almighty!!!!
how many children will God murder today for his Glory?
What?
LOL. you shouldn't be allowed to drive a car on public property if you believe that harry pottern nonsense. embarrassing. @lukecrawford8329
@@notmyproblem88 god doesn’t murder children he weeps at the loss. Humans with our evil in our hearts murder kids against gods will.
There’s just no curing you anthropomorphic idolaters of your fcuk-the commandments idolatry is there?
I got my Amazon digital copy of this book today. I can’t wait to start reading. Thanks be to God for Biblical Scholars like the two of you.
Hi 👋. How you look for it? I’m trying right now and doesn’t show up in Amazon . Not even when I look for Gary’s name
Click on the word "more" under the video. There is a link that takes you to the book on Amazon, but it is very expensive.
You can find the link to the book below the video. Cost is $50.00 before sales taxes.
This man is spectacular with evidence…..and fascinating to listen too. His belief is so mighty it is a joy to listen. Thank you!
What an absolute blessing. I wish all the lifelong biblical scholars would consider doing this type of project. Imagine how much knowledge has been lost to the grave at the passing of a scholar.
Gary Habermas is a theological giant, and he blesses us with this series.
Dr Habermas was one of my profs at Liberty University in the 90s. He was the best, as well as a great hockey coach 😊
Habermas is a treassure and a joy. Brilliant! Thanks for doing this Sean, best man to interview him. Facinating!
a thousand page book on 6 "facts", that must take some effort.
Thank you both I really loved this interview/discussion!
Thank you both for this terrific interview. Love it!! Dr Habermas is so well read, wise and warm-hearted as Prof John Lennox, two of my favourite Christian scholars, along with Sean + Josh McDowell, William Lane Craig, Lee Strobel, Justin Brierley, and Richard Bauckham.
I have some follow up questions and would love to hear Dr Habermas' thoughts on it:
1) what does Dr Habermas think of the prophecies in the Old Testament that point to the Messiah?
2) the conversion of Saul of Tarsus who persecuted the early Christians and then became a Jesus follower himself, is a powerful evidence for Jesus' resurrection. Bart Ehrman disputes that by claiming Saul/Paul felt guilty and that's why he became a Christian. What would you respond? I would say Paul was a leading and renowned pharisee, he had a lot to lose and nothing to win when he became a Christian. And nobody is willing to die for something they KNOW to be a lie.
3) it is unlikely that the early church invented the authors Marc and Luke bc those men were not apostles, Luke even was not an eyewitnes himself. If the church had invented the authors they would have chosen the name of Peter, for instance. I heard Bart Ehrman say something along the lines that the names Marc and Luke could have been invented bc Marc knew Peter and Luke knew Paul, I think in a debate with Bauckham. I find that not convincing at all, why would the church chose no-names instead of Peter himself?
"And nobody is willing to die for something they KNOW to be a lie." According to what is written, he did not die because of what he knew, but rather for what he BELIEVED.
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When my mother was 102 I was telling her the things Gary Habermas was saying. She listened for a while then looked at me and said, "Remember the Bible was dictated. Men may have recorded it but it was dictated."
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That would be wrong. The Bible is not dictated. How would you understand the Bible properly if you do not understand Paul letters and Paul addressing the people with real issues and heresy and what the Prophets were saying. Look at what Jesus said about Moses on the laws, he said Moses allowed the certificate of divorce because of Israel hard hearts. I find Gary confusing by the way but I would try to listen. However reading the Bible and reason from there, seems more fruitful, that I will agree with your mother
Son of God come with a message that comes with a choice and there are important woman in the bible unlike other denominations that dontt even give women a choice women found the tomb empty
I went to Lifeway as soon as Gary mentioned it and ordered a copy; I am so happy to support what you do Gary and you too Sean. God bless.
Instead of giving to the poor, like Jesus commanded, you bought a book that will make someone richer...not very Christian. Feeding hungry kids is more important than Gary's attempt at getting rich.
@@perfectblindguy You should skip a couple meals so you can afford it; its a great book.
Another gullible feeding the dishonest.
Thanks Sean. Great interview with a great and highly respected Christian scholar. Well done.
"respected" lol
not among atheists, among atheists habermas is a blowhard, and sean is just another apologist = "liar for god"
@@notmyproblem88 Yes, he is very respected in academia
Gary knows a lot and he is hard to listen too. Patience is definitely required. And he is worth the effort.
Is he worth the effort? I get frustrated everytime he speaks, so before I pressed Play, I came to the Comments section to see if he was his same old self - and, so far, you're the only one who is honest... 🫤
I'll try to listen to him one more time only because of your endorsement and because I'm hoping Sean can "moderate" him.
I find it difficult , it feels backwards. It feels negative to the Christian faith but more to appeal to scholarship. What should be straightforward forward examination of the evidence becomes like don’t do it, take what the sceptics say and work from there. This invites the question one sceptics to simply disagree with the other and there goes your argument. How does sampling provide evidence, by faith of the sceptics?
Sean, a great job. It is a blessing to see this conversation. God bless you Gary.
Praise the Lord for the redemption given. I got saved some years ago, and since then I have become an avid researcher of the Bible.
I've gathered a lot of information that I synthesized and condensed. Feel free to browse me.
I wish I could've found details like this somewhere else. I guess I'll just do it myself.
Wasn’t Habermas supposed to produce a list of secular historians, scholars etc, who became christians by studying the evidence for the resurrection?
Fools will remain fools even when they die by the hands of the all mighty.
This is lacking evidence@@justice8718
God bless Gary! When Sean asked him for the top 3 evidences WITHOUT the explanations, Gary explained them. Gary's passion makes it hard for him to answer simply. I've listened to him speak at several conferences but I find that I can't listen to him because he goes off on too many bunny trails when answering questions. He says, "okay, I'm going to list the top six." Then he proceeds to get lost in the weeds instead of simply listing them first for the listener THEN going back to expound on each one if necessary. I have tremendous respect for Dr. Habermas and I love his work. I have his books. But I find listening to him to be tedious.
Excellent interview , Gary Habermas never disappoints.
Unless you want a good argument or honesty.
adamcosper3308
I’m intrigued by your comment, is there something in a particular viewpoint of his that you’re contesting?
Or not jiving with?
And if so, I’m quite interested in hearing what that may be?
Ya know, to back up your definitive statement on the man’s lack conversational and debating skill set.
This was my first time seeing this guy myself actually!
@@1Daveyjonesman1half a century of pretending. It's just so cringe.
@@adamcosper3308 whatever can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Maybe *you* try good argumentation and honesty so you can actually do something instead of just pretending you did.
@@juilianbautista4067 extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, where's the evidence?
I’m a big fan of Mr. Habermas. He has been an invaluable source of information on my journey. I definitely have to buy this book!
"information" is not the same as a fantasy novel
@@notmyproblem88 absolutely correct.
It looks like our journeys are leading us in opposite directions….so I’d say good luck but you don’t deal in fantasy.
@@richmle religion is total fantasy and habermas is a blowhard. and over the years sean has made up a lot of bollocks to fit the god narrative too, neither of them are trustworthy sources of information. there's no god either.
Amazing, love it! Thanks so much Sean and Gary!
Thank you pop Garry attending unto our OWN. Gratitude and Honor love you! Sean thank you! Keep the sincere conversations going = sincere answers
Can't Wait for mine to come in the mail. Thanks for putting this out Dr. McDowell. I love listening to Dr. Habermas!
Keep in mind that Paul never spoke of a physical resurrection.
Serious question, not rhetorical at all, how do you mean? I believe Paul talks about a bodily and spiritual resurrection in a few verses: 1 Cor. 15:42, Romans 8:11, and Phil. 3:21, there may be more, but those are just the ones I know of. @@perfectblindguy
Don't pass into the next world until you're done Doctor! May you have a long peaceful life ahead. :)
GOD was leading him on this journey all along for his glory I’ll probably read it though I need no proof because the Holy Spirit lives in me he is my confirmation but so I can minister better to someone who has doubts even then only GOD can give an unbeliever the revelation
I’ve been waiting for this for years! Just ordered Dr. Habermas and I can’t wait!
Save your money. Jesus was not crucified. Barabbas in the gospels was Jesus.
@@perfectblindguy Your username checks out
Thank u for your new book, this vid and the transcript! thxU many times over!
Finishing up the program now and wanted to reflect on the blessing Gary is to the body of Christ. I spoke with him via email a few years about coming out to Arizona to speak to our pastors and he was so willing, his response sounded like he was ready to board the plane that afternoon. I sent information to my conference and talked him up and how he would be a blessing to our pastors, and it all fell on deaf ears. We sometimes just don't know the blessing that is set before us. If you come to Phoenix Gary, I would like to know because I would like to meet you. Blessings and good health. We need you to finish the other three volumes.
@@AmberGintaras Well Amber, "they" books can be useful. But tell me, what do you mean by only read the Holy Bible? Now, would that be only in the King James? ...and only for English? Because that is about how fundamental you sound. I think you're way over your head here. Try just listening to what these men are saying. They are not Higher Critics, but Bible believing scholars.
@@KarlsKronicles
I just saying the Holy Bible has everything need to know, it is the God living book Amen
Very informative. Sounds like a good book for any Christian’s library. Thank you for this interview.
Jesus' ministry on earth was only about three and a half years and Gary's effort to support His cause is more than 50 years and still going!
What a dedication!
May the LORD bless him and put HIS face toward him and HIS light shines through him!
and no one really knows what jesus said while he was alive, it is truly amazing.
@@HarryNicNicholas you're not even sure what you said yesterday!
"What a dedication! " Do you mean, what a scam??? He has not proven ANYTHING, it is all hearsay from the bible.
@00:19:02 - Sean and Gary's discussion of his dissertation prompted me to go look it up. There is not a single non-English source in the bibliography, which would be damning by today's standards for any work in history or theology, and Gary was writing back when the vast majority of critical biblical scholarship was taking place in German. Moreover, he identifies editorials appearing in the popular periodical "Christianity Today" as "scholarly articles."
I have started reading it, and am now wondering how on earth this earned him a Ph.D. Maybe there is something more than what I am seeing so far.
I checked his bibliography and saw a number of references to non English sources
E.g. Schweitzer, Bornkam, Bultmann, Schleiermacher, Schaafs, Pfleiderer,, Pannenberg, Mowinckel, Moltmann, Lessing, Harnack, Brunner, Strauss, von Balthazar.
And the Christianity Today article that I saw was written by Edwin Yamauchi who is a bona fide scholar. To evaluate its appropriateness I think one would need to actually read the article.
@@deki5119 No. You did not. Look again.
Every one of those citations in Gary's dissertation is to an English translation of a German original. Notice how many of them have included the translator in the entry. There are no German language sources in his bibliography. None. Only English translations. There are no sources written in any other language included, either. It is entirely English language scholarship, literature or English translations.
Scholars write non-scholarly articles all the time. I have done so. But what is never done is confusing these popular publications for "scholarship," even when it is written by scholars.
@@DrKippDavis Oh he only cited English translations of German sources instead of the German version of German sources? In other words, he cited German sources.
Holy fuck Kipp, you're an even bigger clown than I thought.
@@DrKippDavis Would you suggest Habermas be fluent in German in order to understand what these German higher critics were saying?
@@alecepting1371 No, I am suggesting that when someone does a Ph.D. touching on any field of biblical studies or theology, they usually would need good enough of a grasp of German, and probably French, to be able to navigate the extensive literature written in those languages. It is extremely odd for one to get through their Ph.D. without having to read any German or French sources.
Gary's bibliography contains no non-English sources, which is very strange for a Ph.D. dissertation in this topic. Without knowing, it certainly provides the impression that he was not capable of navigating the volumes of extremely important German literature relevant to his thesis.
great interview. Evidence that demands a verdict is one of my favorite books ever
Why can they never provide any evidence for their god?
@@logicalatheist1065your pride and love of sin is what’s in the way of you coming to faith. Jesus turns down no one who seeks him with his whole heart. I hope that you can eventually come to faith. Please repent of your sin and trust in the Bible before it’s too late.
Great interview! Wow. I want all 4 volumes!!!
Thank you Sean for occasionally stopping and recapping the info. Gary is wonderfully frenetic, but my slow mind needs a bit of a straighter path.
Sharing his doubts makes this stronger ❤
Sure, stronger doubts
Bless you Sean an Dad Josh AND Dr Gary . DR Gary whom I've know for decades has done Jusus BODY a great honor..reminds me of princeton legend Dr Robert Dick Wilson ..
"Where do we get closed to the eye witnesses that right here."
No where. And isn't it a problem that this is as close as we get?
I think Habermas should interact live on this podcast with Dale Allison!
That’s a great idea. I’ve done that with Dale and Licona and would love to with Gary too.
The greatest comprehensive presentations seem to come from the people who had deep doubts and did the footwork to prove to themselves that their faith was based in Truth. Dr. Gene Scott walked away, essentially became an agnostic until he realized his professors at Stanford just wrote the resurrection off without intellectually considering the evidence for even 5 seconds. Lee Strobel wrote a case for faith because he was being attacked spiritually and he intellectually worked thru what became the case for faith. Thank you, Dr. Gary Habermas for your passion and stick toitiveness
There’s gonna be a ton of counter apologetics videos just based on the content in this one. Let the avalanche begin.
Don't think so since Habermas hasn't presented anything new in terms of verifiable evidence.
Most of the refutation will be concentrated on his fallacious arguments. And most of them are already out there because Habermas is basically rehashing his old fallacious arguments.
Constructive criticism is always welcome. That is how Gary got to this point. Be careful not to confuse mockery with criticism.
While the medical evidence and Strauss critique on Jesus death are good, I think the best argument for Jesus' death is that all the primary sources (the New Testament documents) specifically state that he died. But there is absolutely no evidence showing that he didn't die. Also, Jesus prophesied that he was going to die.
I’ve been waiting for this!!!!
I love the minimal facts. The fewer facts to prove the resurrection, the fewer arguments against it, I think.
I can’t wait to get this book!
Selling books like no tomorrow, this is a SCAM.
My response (if i may) to:1:56:00 - 1:56:54 : #1. "yes we live in a world of pain and suffering but isn't it better that she be with Me than to stay here? #2. This is why Paul said "For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us." Rom 8:18
His argument boils down to 'If you cannot explain these alleged events to my satisfaction you should believe the least likely explanation'. These 'facts' can be explained, and even if we did not have an explanation it would not follow that therefore the resurrection occurred. Paulogia has a natural explanation and it seems very plausible. There could be many many natural explanations for all of these facts that we have access to now or just have not considered. Any of those natural explanations should be believed, the supernatural one should not be believed. More pages does not make the argument better.
If so, why do I have to google paulogia to find out who they are? If he had the credibility to come up with such great explanations, why aren't they well known and quoted? If you look, you can find many actual scientists with peer reviewed studies as contributions to their respective communities that embarked on the journey to disprove what the Bible tells us only to end up being believers and followers of Jesus Christ! The overwhelming majority of historians agree that Jesus and his apostles were real and that Jesus was crucified and that the apostles were suddenly willing to die to tell everyone they saw that they saw Jesus resurrected. It's time to wake up and repent!
Thanks God for Dr Habermas work.
I watched the debate he had with Anthony Flew in The John Ankerberg Show about the resurrection and I believe in the debate Dr Habermas truly showed the love of Jesus Christians are to show to the unbelievers while ministering to them. The debate was also a way to minister to Dr Anthony Flew.
I believe God used Dr Habermas to change Dr Flew from being an atheist to believe in the existence of God.
Guys, 32000 hours is foolishness to those who are perishing.
every cult claims thta those outside of the cult are "perishing". Alas, the cultists can never show that their claims are true.
And the gullible are buying their books.
So much hard work. I think the Lord can't help but appreciate what you've done for "the kingdom."
Great content! 👏 thank you for this!
I love Gary. When I was 14 he took the time to talk on the phone about the resurrection with me. Definitely a true man of God.
WOW, a 14-year-old kid talking to a grown man, were your parents aware of Gary's indoctrination?
Way to go Gary! Such an impressive accomplishment.
Hmm.. Acts chapter 9 Saul saw a light and a voice not a form. Those with Saul saw nothing. How then can it be said Paul saw Jesus in bodily form? Is there another scripture reference?
Love this guy! Only read his books have never heard him speak. Love this!
This is my dear uncle, and I can attest that he's just as great in real life - very genuine. :) My husband and I enjoyed discussing theology with him this past summer at our family reunion. ♥
aww @@melissah7471 that is so awesome! What a blessing to discuss theology with the best of the best! So jealous! It's also great to hear when one's kindness exceed's their scholarship - even more respect! Thx for your response - have a great 2024....and life lolll :) Send him my love and support! Excited to buy this book!
could you get a copy of his newest release for me, i'm a broke college student haha.@@melissah7471
I just perceived, my utter sinfulness, and on the road to Hell, had heard the Gospel of the Death , Burial and Resurrection, the Holy Spirit convicted me to belieb upon Jesus Christ. All by hearing, and I believed by my faith on the Gospel, and immediately was saved, confirmed by receiving the Holy Spirit, and I am learning more every day to believe upon the New Covenant Grace Estate and how so loved by God 2 da Max I am by God being in Christ!!
I learn daily about This Great grace estate of existence in the Word of God, THE JUST (me now in JC) shall live by faith!!!
Please see Paulogia respond to this video.
Not to pre-empt any judgement on the book, but if you have the word 'evidences' in the title. It does not bode well. 😮
Must drive you nuts at game night when you friend rolls a dice 😅
Why do apologists insist on saying "evidences"? It's so weird.
Have you ever tried to understand quantum physics? It's just as abstract as spiritual stuff, but physicists use the term "evidence", even though there's nothing physical to show as evidence. Evidence is maybe convincing for one person and not another.
@@harlanlang6556No, quantum physics is nothing more than physics, where mechanisms are described at the quantum level that are different from those of classical physics. Thanks to quantum physics we have solar panels and lasers. That you don't know physics and believe it is something mystical is your problem. I did study physics.
Agreed, it's like fingernails down a chalk board when they say "evidences" 🤮🤮🤮🤮
@@harlanlang6556you haven't got a science degree so yeah right
@@raulhernannavarro1903 there are different aspects of quantum physics, some of which defies understanding (by that, I mean cause and effect). That there are different quanta (energy levels) is well-understood and the basis for lasers, but other topics like the Schrödinger equation, while being good at telling what is happening in quantum physics, it does not explain why it is happening, and that is why some say it is mystical (as in a mystery). There are various interpretations for that, such as the Copenhagen deterministic view and the many worlds view, but it's really a black box because as soon as we observe it (take a measurement), the wave function collapses and we don't know what was happening under the covers.
YHVH in ancient PICTOGRAPHIC Hebrew is HAND BEHOLD NAIL BEHOLD. He saves with HIS outstretched….arm and hand with nail in it. Cryptic and Conclusive to me
The resurrection is legit!
Both of these scholars are great! Thanks guys for your important work on our central Christian doctrine, with examining, testing, codifying, and sharing the truth of Jesus' Resurrection.
Does the argument of the Roman soldiers assigned to the tomb still figure in the critical examination of the evidence?
I wonder if its absence is what leads Ehrman to attempt to discount the known burial. Pilate and the Jewish leaders had vested interest in avoiding any of the possible excuses or mischief that could have been done with the body of Jesus. I'll have to read Gary's work to understand why it doesn't figure in the top 6 or so discussed facts and evidence.
"We have Paul's account, and Paul's an eye witness."
Except that Paul was not an eye witnesses.
"Paul interviews Peter and James, and they were eye witnesses."
Says who? We don't have any records of Peter and James ever claiming to be eye witnesses to the resurrection.
It's just pathetic, isn't it?
Have you read the documents yourself or are you getting all the information from a third source ?
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Yes, I've read the documents.
Do you have an actual point to make, son? Or are you just fishing?
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Why do you say Paul is not an eye witness ? To claim he isn't you would have to have absolute knowledge about what he did or didn't see that contradicts all the hystorical data.
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"Why do you say Paul is not an eye witness ?"
Because Paul never claimed to have seen the risen Jesus. He claimed to have had a vision of Jesus.
Hi to you guys, love this interactilon, casting away all doubts in the ressurection. I like what the doc said, he was writing & researching to answer his doubts. & i love this ❤
God bless Dr. Habermas and Sean. Keep going for Jesus!
Is God blessing the children that are getting raped on a daily basis?
Creeds are not evidence.
How did you comme to that conclusion ?
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By using reason and evidence. Merely repeating something does not make it factual (no matter how much the Republican Party wishes it did!)
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Creeds are at least evidence of what somebody think is the case or want you to think is the case?
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I never said they were not evidence of what people think. They are not evidence that what people think is actually true.
Understand now?
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The minimal facts argument hinges on the disciples believing that they saw the risen Lord.
From there it says the best explanation of all the evidence is the resurrection.
For this specific purpose the creed establishes/ is evidence that they believed in a resurrection.
Great interview.
Habermas spent all those years researching the empty tomb and never noticed that there isn't enough information in the Gospels for any critic to actually find it.
Also, there's NOTHING in the Gospels that says ANYTHING about the tomb remaining empty. The Church of the Holy Sepulcher, which was considered to be Jesus' tomb by 4th century Christians, has spaces cut out for six bodies, not one.
What a complete joke.
That's because it was Joseph or Arimathea's family tomb into which he put Jesus. Hence the multiple spots. But he buried Jesus there out of respect for him.
@@BibleFanatics > That's because it was Joseph or Arimathea's family tomb into which he put Jesus
We don't know for certain that it belonged to Joseph of Arimathea, though.
We do know that the Romans built a temple of their own on the site somewhere around 135 AD.
There are stories of how the tomb was found under the temple but those stories also include the discovery of a cross that could heal sick people who touched it.
@@onlylettersand0to9 what proof do you have it's not his tomb? What evidence? We have the gospels and extra biblical testimonies that his body was stolen from the tomb. Two independent sources show it was Joesph of Arimathea. In four accounts of the gospels the womb know what tomb to go to. They followed Joesph and saw where his body was laid. So again how do you know it was a temple? How do you know it was not Joesphs tomb? Evidence and sources please. Otherwise the only good evidence we have are in gospels which show it was his tomb.
I've followed Dr. Habermas' work for years. He is so important in the study of the Resurrection. The Resurrection is the core of Christianity and its truth rises or falls on it. I think the Shroud of Turin can be important in helping people who need physical evidence.
Except the shroud is dated to the 1300's.
@@LuciferAlmighty Not really. Maybe you haven't kept up with the latest information. Check it out. The carbon 14 test was very flawed and there is strong evidence from more modern light based spectroscopy tests that the shroud was indeed first century based. But let's face it, they couldn't make photographs from incredibly intense nuclear light that was still gentle enough not to singe the fabric in the 1300's either. Because that's what it is. And it emanated from inside the body, not the outside. That's a couple of the things, and there is a lot more than that, that you should check out if you're going to voice an opinion like that.
@@LuciferAlmighty wrong … go research latest findings on the shroud … the 1980’s study got it wrong big time
The shroud is an impossibility.
@@LookOutForNumberOne Certainly if you don't believe it is. But, factually it flies in the face of impossibility.
I have spent around 50 years reading and studying the scriptures. After reading through the Christian Bible 9 times, I say that most of the stories are great fairytales!
So was this comment!
The Holy scriptures teaches Torah and prophets Matt.5:17-19/Isa.8:20.. It doesn't teach one milligram of Christianity.
@@alvinford6522 And I studied the Torah as well. The Old Testament is mostly the Torah. Stupidity does not help your case!
Maybe. These 11 plus Paul sure did pay quite a price for holding on to their belief in fairytales. Not necessarily convincing in and of itself, not easily dismissible either.
@@johncipolletti5611what the hell are you talking about? The Old Testament is 37 books. The Torah is 5 of 37 so how would anyone who actually studied the subject make such an obviously false statement that 5 of 37 is "most" of the O.T.?
Way to show your ignorance in one failed sentence. Yet another internet expert.
Habermas' books sound incredible, but I wish there was a Reader's Digest Condensed version (or maybe Cliff Notes, LOL!).
50 years and thousands of hours in trying to prove something that if it was true would not lead to anyone needing to study that long. A big fail. Faith is a complete copout. Why would God want people to study for 50 years to get enough evidence to attempt to prove anything? If it’s true it’s true. If it’s not it’s not. Even at 50 years of studying he is still at square 1. Based on the evidence nobody has even proven a god exists and that would be groundbreaking and that person would get the Nobel peace prize. Let’s start there.
But yet you obviously believe that the earth exists via big bang theory, which, imo, there isn't any proof of AT ALL. It's laughable that atheists think a big boom happened suddenly, no purpose for life, it just happened? Good luck w/that belief system. I would much prefer to believe in an afterlife, and a world created /designed by an omnipotent creator=God.
You may describe Creation theory as myth, however, you have no evidence to the contrary. Creator/God theory explains the complexities of the our existence. The age of the earth is not explained fully by "science", as they had to use a theory or a best guest to even measure the age of the earth, yet the bible contains history and science i.e. creation Every day more is being discovered that aligns more with Creative DESIGN as opposed to a random explosion that somehow created life!!
Scientists studying the Grand Canyon's rock layers & the fossils (how they were grouped together, in rock, confirmed the flood & in doing so it also aligned w/ Bible history & confirmed the real age of the earth, which then makes Creation by God way more plausible. Not a fairy tale at all. Check it out if you dare.
I love this guy… he’s definitely from somewhere in the south with all of his slang usage, which I, myself, am quite familiar with, since I’m also from the south.🤗🥰
Habermas is from Michigan.
@@DrKippDavis is he really?!😅 Well, he has definitely been influenced by someone in the south must have visited there a few times are hung around some southerners!😉
@@GirlPaintsArt I mean, he has been teaching in Lynchburg VA for over 20 years now. Is that part of "the South"? (I'm a Canadian. I don't actually know anything.)
Yay, another book regurgitating the same old resurrection arguments.
Well, he has to scam however he can, at the end of the day, christians in general are Gullible.
Great timing. Gnostics are getting louder on the non belief in the Resurrection. Lock up your notes for protection!
lol, the case is so overstated here it’s unreal. Gary sounds like a used car salesman!
The gospels have no errors. Why are we so blind? These are notes from four classrooms of students. The titles tell it all . Confess your faith and eyes will be opened. Mark came in with the other 70. He was a young man.
Come on bro, 50 years? One topic? That’s suppose to rely on faith? Get a life man some things we’ll never know for sure just open your heart and live your life
This.
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The very best argument you have is that some people in the first century BELIEVED in the resurrection. It's uncontested because it's a mundane claim. Unfortunately what you want your audience to incorrectly infer is "therefore they must have been true" which is contested by nearly everyone. A belief in a thing is not evidence that that thing is correct. You've been directly publicly repeatedly criticized about this, and you haven't yet acknowledged this glaring nail in the coffin of your entire body of work.
Bruh. The Pharisees were named. The Roman governor was named. The place itself was named.
If it is wrong, they could just drag Jesus' body around
@@fynflorentine2512yeah, it's not as easy as either most Christians or most non Christians try to make it. Decades of study, even if I don't believe, I have respect for the research.
And years of medicine shows that once your dead your dead even your bible confirms this "Job 7:9 he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more". So is it lying or just another mistake?
If one reads more than just one verse, understanding increases exponentially.
Job was in a deep state of bitterness and moaning over the condition he was now experiencing, so that all objectivity has flown from him.
Humans begin life with a body, (flesh), a soul, and a spirit. The spirit is dormant until it should be quickened (made alive) by becoming regenerated by The Holy Spirit of God (see John 3).
The body of flesh we are born with is a tent for our soul. It is this flesh body that, when it is no longer viable or useful, dies, and does not rise again, until the end of time's journey on earth. Those who only identify with their bodies of flesh, as being the whole expression of themselves, believe that once dead, always dead!
But, as we learn, we are far more than our flesh bodies, and that resurrection of the dead, and the rising of the yet living, (Rapture of), life, at the end of days, will reveal that all is alive in one form or another. At that time (which is drawing ever nearer), we all will have made our final choice - to repent, and believe in Jesus Christ who was offered once for all, the Lamb of God who shed his sinless Blood to pay the price required to save unto eternal life, with Him, every soul who chooses Him. At this regenerative moment, the spirit of that soul also becomes alive (born again). The awakened spirit and soul believes in Jesus, repents, and is saved!
" To wit, God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself" (2nd Corinthians 5:19a).
Years of medicine is only able to address the fleshly body.....hopefully.
God Himself made these bodies for us fearfully and wonderfully, so that we could journey through this three dimensional (4, if including time) experience. His IS AN ENORMOUS and incredible PLAN!!!
ALL, IN LOVE.
This is ludicrous.
It always truly puzzles me that Christians never stop and ask themselves why their God has made such an awful job at transmitting his story and his message which, if true, must be the most important thing ever communicated to humanity.
If the Christian God exists, and he is truly omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent, etc, then his message must be the most important one ever, yet he chose to transmit it in one specific place, within a relatively primitive culture, written decades afterwards in a language (Greek) not spoken by most of the principal characters in the story, and written in a book which has allowed for a vast range of interpretations.
Even conservative Christian scholars agree that the synoptic gospels are all anonymous and if pushed to be very specific they will concede that the only named person who claims to be an eyewitness of the resurrected Jesus is Paul. Even so, there are three versions of Paul’s encounter with Jesus in the Acts of the Apostles, all of which could fairly be characterised as some form of vision or psychotic event
Surely Christians should at least consider that their God has done a very bad job? After all, the stakes couldn't be higher . . . Salvation or Damnation.
Even if a Christian thinks that there isn’t a problem, even if they think that the tortuous attempt by Habermas and other apologists to try and wrangle some sense and credibility out of the many evidential problems with the Bible is a worthwhile way to live, then I have one question for them. Could the evidence be better?
Surely an honest Christian couldn't deny that it could be better? For example, as a basic minimum we could have the original texts of the Bible instead of anonymous copies. We could have the text be so clear that the need for interpretation is non-existent, it could be so clear that it wouldn't have generated a vast range of interpretations (and denominations) even amongst Christians. Just ask a Catholic and a Calvinist to tell you about their beliefs and see what I mean.
This being the case what we seem to have is a "perfect being" transmitting the most important message ever in what is clearly an imperfect way. A "perfect being" doing something imperfect. Really?
I simply shake my head. This is ludicrous.
What?
Who told you that the Gospel was anonymous?
It's been quoted by the Apostolic fathers themselves - aka the people raised by the apostles
Thanks for your response. I really appreciate it. As I said in my previous post, the overwhelming consensus amongst both Christian and non-Christian scholars is that Mathew, Mark, and Luke are anonymous texts. If you doubt that this is the consensus please research this and you will see what I am saying is true. It would be foolish for me to lie when you and anyone else reading this could check.
The reason that the gospels have names attached to them is simply Church tradition. They are not eyewitness testimonies. You mention the Apostolic Fathers, and this is what I mean bv Church tradition.
There are, however, extremely Conservative Christian (mostly Protestant evangelical scholars) who make the claim that the gospels are not anonymous, but this is because they let their desire that the Bible be inerrant override the facts. Most Catholic scholars don't take this stance; instead they rely on church tradition but when pressed they will admit that, strictly speaking, the only honest answer is that the synoptic gospels are in fact anonymous. For obvious reasons, priests and pastors seldom mention this as it can be a factor in undermining peoples' faith
There are many good r,easons for believing that they are anonymous, not least the fact they they have been dated to 50, 60, 70 years after Christ died when the Apostles would have been long dead. Also, they were written in Greek which Mathew and Mark would not have been able to write. I could go on, but it's all there for you if you want to research it.
Of course, understanding and accepting that the Gospels are anonymous does not prevent anyone from believing in Christianity, it simply enables them to judge the claims of their faith on the basis of facts not untruths. However, the fact that the gospels are not written by eyewitnesses is a major problem for the claims of Christianity.
Hope this helps.
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WOW!!!!!! AMAZING!!!!!! Thanks again SO MUCH Sean!
He get's a LIFETIME Achievement Award for the Most Colossal Waste of a Life.
Bless his mother but this is an unacknowledged pitfall for most Christian people, habit isn't a substitute for faith.
You know coming back to this, I realized...isn't this all kind of silly? God requires you to believe and repent to Jesus in order to go to heaven. Supposedly that's what God wants too since he loves us so. And yet, we have this guy who has spent over 50 years reading bronze-age stories in order to try to prove it is real to modern audiences. Doesn't that just seem absurd? Why should it be *this* hard to prove God's existence? Why does it all hinge on a single story about resurrection from 2000 years ago? Doesn't the whole thing just seem logically absurd? Doesn't it suggest that the Christian story just isn't real?
Yep. It's pathetic.
I believe it isn’t about proving that God exists. These people dedicate their lives to this because science and faith go hand in hand. It’s meant to be together and we’re encouraged as Christians to not just believe whatever is spoon fed to us. We must have evidence-based faith. Apologists like Sean don’t seek out to prove God’s existence, instead they seek out to deliver God’s message in logic. Hope this helps. You can send me a message if you want to talk. I hope you and your family are well and that you’re having a great day ❤️
This was interesting and agreeable for the most part until around 1:31:57, when Dr. Habermas began to assert a series of surprisingly weak arguments, as follows:
1. That our resurrection body would be a physical one like Jesus', referring to 1 Cor. 15, as if Paul wrote of a bodily resurrection for all the saints of God, meaning the physical raising of the dead. Paul clarified that the raised 'body' will differ from the buried body.
"37 And what you sow is not the body that is to be, but a bare kernel,... 42 So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable; what is raised is imperishable."
- To imagine God would raise up humans from the dead in a physical body is to be ignorant that in God's design, the physical needs to repeat the cycle of life, which necessitates decay and death in which the Gospel is permanently imprinted. Hence, Paul wrote in verse 50, "I tell you this, brothers: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable." The physical cannot inherit eternal life, which is spiritual.
The resurrection Paul meant was spiritual, first of all that of the Old Covenant saints from Sheol into the presence of God (Heaven). We read in Hebrews 9 and 11 and in Rev. 6 how these saints eagerly awaited it.
- In verses 51 - 53, Paul reveals that when they die, those still alive will not all sleep (in Sheol) but will be changed in the twinkling of an eye. Paul wasn't writing about the rapture most Christians are looking forward to.
- The death swallowed up by victory is spiritual death, the sting of which is sin. Since the Old Covenant Law gives the power to sin and will end with the impending destruction of the temple Jesus spoke of in the Olivet Discourse, victory will be won over spiritual death!
- this resurrection event will release the souls from Sheol forever. That happened in AD 70 when the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed along with its cultic practice. Christ ended the OC age and brought in the New Covenant Christian age, which has no end where Jew or Gentile is immaterial.
- And we shall be in heaven when we die because Sheol is cast out.
56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
2. Another of Dr. Habermas' errors concerns Jesus' statement in Matt. 24: 34 about His returning before that generation passes away.
- Based on Jesus' proceeding statement that the day and hour no one knows, Dr. Habermas interprets “γενεὰ” (genea) as race instead of what is consistently translated as “generation” in the New Testament.
- Jesus knew the generational time frame but not the specific day and time detail, something Dr. Habermas didn't consider.
- He also didn't catch the nuance of the Hebraic term 'the day and hour no one knows,' which the early Jews understood as the new moon festival, which Jesus could very well have hinted at. It turned out that the temple was destroyed in AD 70, around the time.
- Dr. Habermas chose to ignore wholesale Matthew 16: 28, where Jesus specifically said that some standing there will not taste death before seeing His coming in judgment.
- He's clearly one of many scholars with a willing ignorance about the modern-day Jews not at all ethnically related to 1st-century Jews of the Old Covenant period. 70 AD ended that age and ensured no one could claim racial pedigree anymore to enter the Kingdom of God. Christ is the only way ever since.
3. Finally, Dr. Habermas contradicts himself, hoping to be in heaven with his loved one while assuming we're still living in the same era as the writers of the NT who were waiting for Christ's return.
If Dr. Habermas believed Jesus had yet to return, in death, he could only look forward to still being asleep in Sheol until then and not being raised in heaven.
"25 At that time Jesus declared, “I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children; 26 yes, Father, for such was your gracious will." - Matthew 11: 25 - 26
Don’t tell us. Go pick up your Nobel prize for showing how the laws of physics can be broken.
Precisely, these types of interviews are just a scam to sell their books.
#1 New Release!! It hasn't fallen. I just ordered it!!
Selling books like no tomorrow, this is a SCAM.
Booooooo. It's pre-recorded. Give me live, or give me death.
Tsk, Dr., you know they are both too much the cowards to have it live.
I just subscribed because you seem to have some pretty detailed videos and regularly engage with the apologetics community. Looking forward to watching your old stuff and any new stuff especially responding to Habermas. I don't usually like people going after folks viciously for their credentials/academic past but a simple neutral breakdown can certainly be appropriate (like saying Habermas' thesis wasn't published atypically and that his current publisher isn't an academic publisher)
@@samuelblackmon Thanks for the sub. I fear that you will be disappointed on two fronts: 1) I have taken a bit of a hiatus from video production to do more writing, and 2) I tend not to deal much with the New Testament.
But, don't let those scare you off!
Jesus can give you life, if you repent and trust in him
@@CCiPencil Which jesus, dear? you christians have so many versions. It's hilarious how you cultists all utterly fail to be able to do what your bible has jesus promising to his true believers. You, sean, gary, et al are frauds per your own nonsense.
"Jesus can give you life, if you repent and trust in him"
Gary Habernas is clinical he only strengthens my belief
Does anyone “irrationally”!investigate?? Or do we add rational because Christianity is irrational.
Logic and reason came from the pagan Greeks, so you can't trust it.
Paul never taught of a physical resurrection of Jesus. Habermas never mentions that.