He was a violent gangsta and career criminal. The mother of his child had a restraining order against him for his violence. Thank goodness the courts showed some common sense.
@@AdrianBourneArt he was using his car as a battering ram when armed police showed up because of a shooting that occurred in the same car the day before, completely justified, the victim mentality here is actually hilarious, should of just held his hand out of the car right?
@@chriskinge9917 “he was using his car as a battering ram” - active language “armed police showed up” - passive language “completely justified” - You’re leaving out “they boxed him in with a hard stop.” The Cops created the dangerous situation they “had to” shoot their way out of, genius. Is that how the UK meats out justice? If you commit a shooting yesterday, you get ex€cuted the next. Seems pretty medieval to me.
@@chriskinge9917 “he was using his car as a battering ram” - active language “armed police showed up” - passive language “completely justified” - You’re leaving out “they boxed him in with a hard stop.” The Cops created the dangerous situation they “had to” shoot their way out of, genius.
@@13thnotehifireviews7 maybe not but the car was known to the police from a shooting night before. A 80k car that I may add, not being registered also doesn't help anyone who drives the thing.
Why? Both can be true at once. It was potentially institutional racism. The jury examined all the evidence and made their decision based on that. I don’t see a problem here.
@@jujutrini8412 It should never have been allowed to go to trial, there was never sufficient evidence to warrant this, as the very quick acquittal shows. Waste of taxpayers money, all because the IPCC and CPS were terrified of the backlash for making an obvious decision.The cost has been huge to the taxpayer as well as the procedure to the individual. And the same people who try and start a moral panic about institutional racism would quickly dismiss instantly any claims of anti semitism.
I don't care what colour you are, if you hear someone yelling "armed police" and you're surrounded by flashing blue lights, you do as you're told...self preservation..
Always the case and usually followed by protests, riots, flame throwing and looting. Face facts people: Britain we have a problem and it's getting worse by the day.
Why is when a black man is stopped or tragically killed its nor because they was possibly involved in a crime or about to commit one is immediately a racial hate stop ...
It's because racial hate towards blacks is so rampant so that even when some of them engage in illegalities people hastily attribute it to racial abuse.
It's honestly sad. Then the families and other perpetual victims try to complain and say their lives are deemed worth less than white lives by society. Like, a black criminal dies by cop and suddenly the world stops. A white guy dies by cop and it probably doesn't even make the news. Which life is worth more? I just don't get it.
This isn't a Black Vs White issue. This isn't a Right Wing Vs Left Wing issue. This is a Right Vs Wrong issue and everyone should agree with the officer over those who support criminality.
A career criminal who was a member of a county lines drug peddling street gang was driving a car linked to firearm offences, resisted arrest, led the police on a dangerous chase through the streets, rammed parked cars and attempted to run over multiple officers. It's not that difficult to understand, the vast majority of the British public agree with this verdict and are more annoyed this even made it to court and wasted taxpayer's money.
You don't fire a warning shot or shoot out the tyres of a vehicle with a firearms marker on it. You give the target the opportunity to comply and then neutralise it. These are policies being followed to the letter by the officer. That he ended up in a dock is shameful.
The guy doesnt have a clue what he is talking about and shooting out the tires would not stop the car and does not eliminate the threat of the driver. Also shots into the tires would produce ricochets.
As a black person i am mistrusting of the police BUT i watched the footage i dont think it was inappropriate if the dude was getting out and they shot him then its bad he continued to try and ram his way out you gave the officer a decision to make its tragic that he died but i wouldnt stick an officer in jail based on what i saw the guy on the panel is making every excuse rather than just being honest if you fear for your life you do what an armed officer tells you you dont start ramming cars
@@SWINDYPANTS90no the police has affinity for abusing their powers on young black men my brother was thrown in jail with no evidence of ever committing a crime it was the usual "he fits the description" line of course he was released the next day no apology I was stopped and searched because someone fitting my description mugged an old white lady. I'd just got out of school 🤣🤣🤣 I have countless stories weirdly none of my white mates have these experiences
@@marianlonge3060 while I agree that the officer shouldn't be jailed I do question the tactics of just following the car he had enough time to make a phone call to say he was being followed so that immediately spreads panic
the gentleman speaking about it being highly confusing is not really taking into account that Kaba absolutely would NOT have been "confused" about why police were surrounding him, since he was a wanted criminal for shooting the night before (as opposed to the innocent man speaking who would understandably have been under extreme confusion and fear)
They refuse to release the statistics but we can guarantee it's going to be just like the statistics of everywhere else in the West. Barbaric cultures imported into civilised ones tend to breed criminality
Another apologist for black failings, Kaba was a career criminal, Nels Abbey, needs to gather a grip of his reality about Kaba’s past. Thank god for sensible members of the jury.
He was using the car as a weapon against police and it was reasonable for the police to believe there was a firearm in the car, so it was reasonable for police to believe bullets were about to come of the car. Sometimes you only get one split-second chance to save your own and the life of another. It's a very sad end to a young life, but police cannot be at fault for protecting themselves against possible death.
I am a white middle aged man. When I was at university during the late 90’s I too was subject to a hard stop. Hemmed in by plain clothed police officers. In unmarked cars. Very abrupt and to the point and shouted to me to get out of the car. Once they realised I wasn’t the person they were looking for them then explained why I had been stopped and sent me on my.
Bringing on a well spoken well educated black man to some what defend someone that was involved in two shootings days before that happened, also now its clear he used the car that was involved in shootings as a weapon is a problem. There's no argument to be had, be it if ur black white or brown. My god no wonder the country is such a dangerous place right now. This guy defending this is almost embarrassing
From my experiences I can relate to what the guys saying. If the guy was white he wouldn't of been shot dead regardless of the circumstances but that's just my opinion based on what I have seen.
@@replayers5354 well from my experience ur wrong, I'm from probably the most multicultural area in the UK , I grew up there with friends from all different backgrounds, and we used to get in trouble with the police and all got treated the same. How many ppl you know who have had firearms used on them by police? I take it ur talking about the UK right ?
Don’t blame the police, blame the parenting……no black person ever got shot for complying with police. I love how it gets to the end game and it’s always the police’s fault, Chris Kaba was a gangster…fact, he was in a car that was involved in a shooting….fact, he was using his car as a battering ram….fact. Just comply and complain later if you feel it’s unjust, nobody dies.
@OXD_17 No, actually, that was a decent point. Perhaps counter it with something smart and productive rather than adding 'you bored' and then adding an emoji like you're a twelve year old girl or something.
As soon as the guest said he was the subject of a police hard stop and treated incredibly badly as a student, he lost all credibility as someone whose opinion was going to be nothing but biased.
As a black man.....I have no sympathy here.....He was a known criminal who was running away from the police despite a gun being pointed......if he was innocent he would have stopped.....We have to choose our battles but this is not one of them.....leave this to the family involved as its a personal matter
This shouldn't even be a discussion, when armed police show up in numbers. Stopping a car thats known to them, you stop. No, guy tried to drive off with force. He was known to be violent in the passed. All cause he's black, the card gets waved around and questioned an armed officer whos specially trained in these sort of scenarios.
I fully agree. But, it's good to remember that there are also several cases where biased has been acted on. And it's that, that always creeps it's head intimidating situations like this
Read the comments on every video about Kaba. We ALL support the policeman, nobody is defending Kabas actions, so why do we give ppl who do defend him air time. Its not representative of the ppl.
He ran around with a gun shooting at people , the car he drove was used with shots being fired outside a school. He needed to be taken into custody and he tried to ram his way through a hard stop....he was a danger then to the Police and the Police knew he was a danger...he lived by the sword and died by it.
How about some discussion the Peter Lynch alleged suicide. A man given an excessive jail sentence for words and placards, all on the direction of Starmer. Not fitting the GMB agenda?
Labour and starmer don’t control justice department, just like the riots when the tories were in power were dealt with just as harshly. What you described would be fine if Peter lynch was peacefully protesting. He wasn’t doing that, he was at the front of a mob shouting that the hotel and immigrants should be set fire to. That was not a protest regardless of any placard he held. Whereas if he was say stood in front of his home carrying a placard saying I want better immigration control he would not have been prosecuted. Peter knew he was there as part of a violent mob, he saw police being attacked and hotel and immigrants being intimidated and he stayed and continued his action that shows intent. The country needs to severely punish this lawless mob violence and intimidation as if justice department doesn’t then people like Peter will think they can do the same thing and go unpunished. Maybe the sentence was harsher than needed but it needed to send a msg to other citizens that this behaviour will never be tolerated. If any of us take issue with uk policy or incidents, we need to voice them in a non violent manner in a forum that is civil and abiding the law. That is a society I want to live in not lawlessness and wanton violence. Peter lynch may have been a great person, but the day he took part in the mob was a bad decision
My thoughts are with the Officer who was trying to protect the public from a known career criminal /person who actively used firearms in public places.
The argument that Kaba might have acted on instinct on the spur of the moment is crazy. When someone shouts "armed police put your hands up" the instinct is to put your hands up. End of.
System isn't broken if the fool was using a vehicle as a weapon. Tired of people defending criminals just because he is black. I'm black as well but I feel sometimes people's common sense flies through out the window
This is silly the boy tried to run down the police and got shot. This is a waste of time, he got caught and tried to basically use is car as a weapon. Can't stand sour losser and I'm black by the way. Let's campaign for righteous action not, criminal. Campaign against knife crime and save the kids not this double standards. Wrong is wrong simple
Overshadowed by the main point of the video, I want to address a comment made near the end, Life with a minimum term of 20 years does not mean you do 10 years, this myth needs to end. You do at least 20 years and as much longer as deemed necessary by the Parole Board, on release you remain subject to licence for life. He is conflating that with someone sentenced to 20 years, which for a violent offences means you do at least 12 years 8 months before doing the remaining 6 years and 4 months on licence. Whilst on licence you are not entirely at liberty, you are bound to conditions and breaches will lead to recall and subject the prisoner to a requirement to return themselves to prison and authorise police to make arrest for them being unlawfully at large.
And, SURPRISE SURPRISE....His previous criminal history has JUST been released. He SHOT a guy in a nightclub in his legs and has loads of previous. But this poor innocent black guy was the victim. Dunno how his family have the neck, i really don't.
trying to escape his a shootable offence if your black, so you know he was unarmed, the police knew he was unarmed but your kind stick together and now say he was legitimately killed because he tried to escape.
How about discussing the death of Peter Lynch in prison ? 61 years old with no known criminal record locked up for years for shouting and holding a sign.
oooohhh such a horrible experience. chris must of been really scared. dont make me laugh. maybe the blue lights and marked cars with "POLICE" written on them would of given him a clue :)
The audacity of some people to say that he was shot because he was black when we have footage of - Kaba ramming the police Kaba ramming ARMED POLICE When we KNOW Kaba knew the police were involved When we KNOW Kaba was driving a car linked with guns Is this a circus?? 😂
More police are killed by people in cars than suspects are shot by police. Shot, not necessarily killed. There are only about 125,000 police officers in the UK against millions of Black men. It’s clear who is really in danger. He made a big thing about split second decisions. But you can take hours watching the video. And it was still correct.
Black bloke here at the start wanted to brush quickly past why he was stopped in his car, when he was a teen! Not specific. There would have been a reason but he won’t divulge I can guarantee.
It was reported that Kaba's 67 gang put a price on the policeman's head. The policeman & family had to be relocated and faced the stress of waiting 2 years for the trial on top of that.
I have been living in Britain for the past five years, and no police have stopped me illegally. Whenever I see a police officer, I see them with a smiling face. I completely disagree with the racism narrative.
You do not understand the history of racism in the country. You can easily look up cases like Stephen Lawrence, the Guildford Four, the Tottenham Three, etc and others to find out the history of racism within the British police force. You have only been here five years so you can’t know what non black people have suffered over the decades leading up to now. That kind of memory does not leave people easily.
@@jujutrini8412 I used to live in Finland, where racism is very prevalent. My wife and I were once spat at, and we frequently heard the phrase “satana,” which means “satan.” It’s a stark contrast to Britain, which feels like a friendly and welcoming society. In this case if he had complained to the police, I doubt it would have escalated this far.
@@johntilton I know non white people in this country who have had racist graffiti scrawled on their door, who have had dog faeces put through their letterbox because of their race, who have been shouted at in the street with racist slurs, who have been thrown in the back of a police van, called all kinds of racist names and beaten up then dropped off far from home with no mention of a crime having ever been committed, who have been lied about in court (using false quotes and language that they thought a Jamaican person would use even though the person wasn’t even Jamaican!) by the police and the judge even telling the police they know they are lying so the case being thrown out, I could go on and on. Racism exists in the police force in this country as well as in society. If you want to ignore it that is entirely up to you. I am in no way saying that this country is the most racist country on earth. I know it isn’t. But not being the most racist country does not mean it is not racist. Racism does not have to be straight to your face name calling either. The racism that people faced in the fifties, sixties and seventies etc is in no way like it is now. Things have improved a great deal since then but racism has not completely disappeared and it still affects people’s lives. However, the windrush scandal only happened very recently and I know people who were deported from their own country, where they are legal citizens, simply because of their race.
I heard on the radio that the armed Met police attended 17,000 incidents in a year but only opened fire twice. Sounds like very restrained behaviour to me.
We should be ashamed of ourself if any right thinking person protests for this. Let’s leave his criminal record, how can you ram back and forth on police officers ? How? You literally don’t care who or what you hit and somehow he gets shots and some people think they need to protest? If he came out with hands out, will he get shot?
Nels spends the first 3 mins playing victim about his own experience which is completley irrelevant to this case. The car Kaba was driving a car that was involved in a shooting the night before. Kaba was using the a 2T vehicle as a battering ram and was shot to eliminate the threat. Nels arguements of a white man with a gun is very poor too as he too is shot which disregards the colour of your skin but survived. Nels arguments are very poor and victim mentality, get him off the tele. He tried to make the whole arguement about race when its nothing to do with it.
After hearing the news about Chris yesterday I Sensed something wasn't quite RIGHT ! so I did some research in Wikipedia and realised he was no angel At that point my empathy evaporated for him and his family
More information has been released that says he was a core member of the 67 gang in South London and that he was involved in a club shooting days before, my question is why did the met police hand the officer out to dry for two years neglecting this significant information being published.
He was a violent gangsta and career criminal. The mother of his child had a restraining order against him for his violence. Thank goodness the courts showed some common sense.
Not at all justified
@@AdrianBourneArt he was using his car as a battering ram when armed police showed up because of a shooting that occurred in the same car the day before, completely justified, the victim mentality here is actually hilarious, should of just held his hand out of the car right?
@@chriskinge9917 “he was using his car as a battering ram” - active language
“armed police showed up” - passive language
“completely justified” - You’re leaving out “they boxed him in with a hard stop.”
The Cops created the dangerous situation they “had to” shoot their way out of, genius.
Is that how the UK meats out justice? If you commit a shooting yesterday, you get ex€cuted the next.
Seems pretty medieval to me.
@@chriskinge9917 “he was using his car as a battering ram” - active language
“armed police showed up” - passive language
“completely justified” - You’re leaving out “they boxed him in with a hard stop.”
The Cops created the dangerous situation they “had to” shoot their way out of, genius.
@@AdrianBourneArt Fully Justified mate
if your known for carrying a gun and the police put there lights on to stop you should stop not try and run a officer over with your car
He was found not guilty and yet there still not happy. Race Baiting
They didn’t know his identity until after he was shot.
Wasn’t he ramming cars & putting innocent people & the police at risk of death ???
Justice has been served.
@@13thnotehifireviews7 as they said the car was used in a gun offence the day earlier
@@13thnotehifireviews7 maybe not but the car was known to the police from a shooting night before. A 80k car that I may add, not being registered also doesn't help anyone who drives the thing.
I hate how the media frames this case as potential institutional racism rather than the reality that he was a violent career criminal.
Why? Both can be true at once. It was potentially institutional racism. The jury examined all the evidence and made their decision based on that. I don’t see a problem here.
@@jujutrini8412The UK is institutionaly racist against white people. Complete double standards in this country.
@@jujutrini8412 The problem is it was a political decision to prosecute him based on identitarian ideology imported from USA
You only need to point to 1 institutional racist law on British law books@@jujutrini8412
@@jujutrini8412
It should never have been allowed to go to trial, there was never sufficient evidence to warrant this, as the very quick acquittal shows.
Waste of taxpayers money, all because the IPCC and CPS were terrified of the backlash for making an obvious decision.The cost has been huge to the taxpayer as well as the procedure to the individual.
And the same people who try and start a moral panic about institutional racism would quickly dismiss instantly any claims of anti semitism.
His actual criminal history has been released now quite a violent career.
He was the suspected gunman who actually murdered a guy the day before, so he was almost certainly a murderer.
I was told he was an inspiring architect and scholar, so you can see how shocked I was to learn his inspiration laid in other directions
Quite, isn't the right word to use.
Kaba was a shooter for 67 gang. He wasn't an innocent civilian
Exactly 💯
Just check out some of the drill music under the name of 67.
I don't care what colour you are, if you hear someone yelling "armed police" and you're surrounded by flashing blue lights, you do as you're told...self preservation..
Common sense but some don’t seem to have it
Adrenaline. When you’re in a situation like that you don’t know how you’re body will react. It’s fight it’s flight
yea
@@ChosenWun180no it’s turn the engine off and listen to officers commands
@@ChosenWun180Then deal with the consequences. Is what it is.
Zero Individual Accountability & 100% Victim Mentality
Always the case
Always the case and usually followed by protests, riots, flame throwing and looting.
Face facts people: Britain we have a problem and it's getting worse by the day.
Why is when a black man is stopped or tragically killed its nor because they was possibly involved in a crime or about to commit one is immediately a racial hate stop ...
It's because racial hate towards blacks is so rampant so that even when some of them engage in illegalities people hastily attribute it to racial abuse.
It's honestly sad. Then the families and other perpetual victims try to complain and say their lives are deemed worth less than white lives by society. Like, a black criminal dies by cop and suddenly the world stops. A white guy dies by cop and it probably doesn't even make the news. Which life is worth more? I just don't get it.
Because everything is now about Identity politics - the guy on the programme is a grifter - that's his living
That’s i i said we’re the evidence that the car was in a shooting the day before
Because it normally is. I mean, you can ignore the statistics if you want to.
This isn't a Black Vs White issue. This isn't a Right Wing Vs Left Wing issue. This is a Right Vs Wrong issue and everyone should agree with the officer over those who support criminality.
@@AnthonyD-yy2in We are talking about this case 🙄
Kaba made multiple bad decisions leading him to that fate, blame gang culture.
THIS. Don't blame cops for stopping criminals. Blame their awful culture for creating criminals at a young age.
he got shot by the popo
He was driving a Audi in London. Lol what did he expect
@@JustapErson nonsense
a car is a lethal weapon and the man was using it as such.
High powered 3 tonne car, very heavily armed ! He could have just raised his hands when told to instead of using the car as weapon.
Anyone who thinks Kaba was not to blame for his own death is part of the problem.
No you are
@@AdrianBourneArt No, you are
@@easy1355 bahahahahahaha
How?
Information has just come out about the background of this gentleman. Why is everyone pretending he was an innocent citizen?
"Gentleman" is one thing he was not ! 😅
Surely black people can understand why he was shot,if u dont maybe that's the problem
I remember when people lived by the law of the land
@@user-im2te2fg9ythey seem to dismiss any wrong doing from kaba,I hope his people learn but I doubt it
@@user-im2te2fg9yYou do NOT remember a time when every single person lived by the law of the land. That time never existed.
I for one do understand.
She didn't say every single person, she was saying in general, ffs@JoshPascoe-zt6yf
A career criminal who was a member of a county lines drug peddling street gang was driving a car linked to firearm offences, resisted arrest, led the police on a dangerous chase through the streets, rammed parked cars and attempted to run over multiple officers. It's not that difficult to understand, the vast majority of the British public agree with this verdict and are more annoyed this even made it to court and wasted taxpayer's money.
Why lie… It wasn’t a dangerous chase, he stopped at a red lights on the longer version seen today.
You don't fire a warning shot or shoot out the tyres of a vehicle with a firearms marker on it. You give the target the opportunity to comply and then neutralise it. These are policies being followed to the letter by the officer. That he ended up in a dock is shameful.
The guy doesnt have a clue what he is talking about and shooting out the tires would not stop the car and does not eliminate the threat of the driver. Also shots into the tires would produce ricochets.
As a black person i am mistrusting of the police BUT i watched the footage i dont think it was inappropriate if the dude was getting out and they shot him then its bad he continued to try and ram his way out you gave the officer a decision to make its tragic that he died but i wouldnt stick an officer in jail based on what i saw the guy on the panel is making every excuse rather than just being honest if you fear for your life you do what an armed officer tells you you dont start ramming cars
Thankyou for your honesty I know a lot of people looking at it differently.. but I agree with your statement
@@marianlonge3060agree
You should get over the weaknesses of your culture. Your skin colour doesn't make you not trust police, your people's affinity for crime does.
@@SWINDYPANTS90no the police has affinity for abusing their powers on young black men my brother was thrown in jail with no evidence of ever committing a crime it was the usual "he fits the description" line of course he was released the next day no apology
I was stopped and searched because someone fitting my description mugged an old white lady. I'd just got out of school 🤣🤣🤣 I have countless stories weirdly none of my white mates have these experiences
@@marianlonge3060 while I agree that the officer shouldn't be jailed I do question the tactics of just following the car he had enough time to make a phone call to say he was being followed so that immediately spreads panic
Just stay on the right side of the law, whatever your colour.
Its staggering that the dude on the right is trying to justify what Kaba did.
the gentleman speaking about it being highly confusing is not really taking into account that Kaba absolutely would NOT have been "confused" about why police were surrounding him, since he was a wanted criminal for shooting the night before (as opposed to the innocent man speaking who would understandably have been under extreme confusion and fear)
"Working class black men like Chris Kaba"..?
Is that a Disney script he's reading from, or..?
Making drill and committing crime doesn't make you working class, it makes you lumpen.
How disrespectful to call someone like Chris Kaba a working class black man to every working class black man in this country. Truly disgusting.
I agree. It's pathetic.
Kaba was of the criminal class
What you on about? He was self employed and surely paid NI and taxes
He was a violent criminal with knife arrests from the age of 13 not to mention gun arrests, stop sticking up for this man!
Seems he wasn't actually a choir boy after all as suggested by his family and supporters. His criminal record is ridiculous.
How about talking about the demographics of the people involved in violent crimes using knives and guns
Ssshhhhh! Don’t be so racist.
@@ednash3571 what was his previous convictions for being a architect?
They refuse to release the statistics but we can guarantee it's going to be just like the statistics of everywhere else in the West. Barbaric cultures imported into civilised ones tend to breed criminality
He goes on about you have to respect the decision of the jury then he talks about not respecting the decision of the jury.
Of course, he gave the whiny story of being stopped, but now knowing why they weren't stopped. Sure he doesn't.
Another apologist for black failings, Kaba was a career criminal, Nels Abbey, needs to gather a grip of his reality about Kaba’s past. Thank god for sensible members of the jury.
He wasn't aware of the background of Kaba when he spoke and neither was the jury at the trial. He probably thinks a bit differently now.
Everybody’s fault but Kaba’s, who incidentally was trying to shoot a back man in a club was that institutional racism?
80 grand audi q7 unregistered linked to a shooting the previous day ramming coppers ...... ok lol f me this is becoming three teir lol
Mate shut up it wasn't even a Q7, it was a q3 suv and it's about 20k and also a rental.
He was using the car as a weapon against police and it was reasonable for the police to believe there was a firearm in the car, so it was reasonable for police to believe bullets were about to come of the car. Sometimes you only get one split-second chance to save your own and the life of another. It's a very sad end to a young life, but police cannot be at fault for protecting themselves against possible death.
We are now sick of racial politics. We are sick of BLM.
We are more sick and tired of racism.
The police officer shouldn't have been tried at all
This guy is absolutely desperate to discuss everything except what he's actually being asked about
I am a white middle aged man. When I was at university during the late 90’s I too was subject to a hard stop. Hemmed in by plain clothed police officers. In unmarked cars. Very abrupt and to the point and shouted to me to get out of the car. Once they realised I wasn’t the person they were looking for them then explained why I had been stopped and sent me on my.
Huh. Do you speak like Frank Bruno or work in a coal-mine or something? Im perplexed.
yes mistakes happen but if you dont resist no problem
.... And your point is????
@@lh3557point is it happens to all races, how can you not understand that ?
“I was in a hard stop. I have no idea why?” Probably cos your mate was involved in something he didn’t tell you about.
😂😂
Bringing on a well spoken well educated black man to some what defend someone that was involved in two shootings days before that happened, also now its clear he used the car that was involved in shootings as a weapon is a problem. There's no argument to be had, be it if ur black white or brown. My god no wonder the country is such a dangerous place right now. This guy defending this is almost embarrassing
From my experiences I can relate to what the guys saying. If the guy was white he wouldn't of been shot dead regardless of the circumstances but that's just my opinion based on what I have seen.
@@replayers5354 well from my experience ur wrong, I'm from probably the most multicultural area in the UK , I grew up there with friends from all different backgrounds, and we used to get in trouble with the police and all got treated the same. How many ppl you know who have had firearms used on them by police? I take it ur talking about the UK right ?
Don’t blame the police, blame the parenting……no black person ever got shot for complying with police. I love how it gets to the end game and it’s always the police’s fault, Chris Kaba was a gangster…fact, he was in a car that was involved in a shooting….fact, he was using his car as a battering ram….fact. Just comply and complain later if you feel it’s unjust, nobody dies.
You bored🤦🏾♀️
@OXD_17 No, actually, that was a decent point. Perhaps counter it with something smart and productive rather than adding 'you bored' and then adding an emoji like you're a twelve year old girl or something.
As soon as the guest said he was the subject of a police hard stop and treated incredibly badly as a student, he lost all credibility as someone whose opinion was going to be nothing but biased.
Agreed, but I think that is why he was a guest to spout his bile and deluded nonsense😮😮😮
@@1966DepecheI think deluded is the polite way of putting it!
@seanwoodward2804 yep, didn't want to over egg it incase I got a visit from my local dibble..
so much air wasted defending criminals.
Everyone knew he was a criminal and still they defended him, disgraceful behaviour yet again
Why don’t you talk about his previous convictions?
its not even that , he didnt stop after them saying 12 times stop armed police, you stop hand out and get arrested its simple
Doesn't suit his narrative.
It wasn’t released from the press embargo by the judge at the time of broadcasting.
This guy is making excuses, each situation is different and lets not forget a car is not only an escape route it is a lethal weapon
"Shoot the wheels" 🤦♂️
This guy doesnt have a scooby doo.
As a black man.....I have no sympathy here.....He was a known criminal who was running away from the police despite a gun being pointed......if he was innocent he would have stopped.....We have to choose our battles but this is not one of them.....leave this to the family involved as its a personal matter
Go home.
Thank you for seeing law and "right vs wrong" above tribalism black vs white of black vs police.
Can we expect mostly peaceful expressions of de-stocking JD Sports in London over the weekend..?
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This shouldn't even be a discussion, when armed police show up in numbers. Stopping a car thats known to them, you stop. No, guy tried to drive off with force. He was known to be violent in the passed. All cause he's black, the card gets waved around and questioned an armed officer whos specially trained in these sort of scenarios.
I fully agree. But, it's good to remember that there are also several cases where biased has been acted on. And it's that, that always creeps it's head intimidating situations like this
This guy should never been allowed to be on this show, and should never be called on again
Couldn't agree more!
Read the comments on every video about Kaba. We ALL support the policeman, nobody is defending Kabas actions, so why do we give ppl who do defend him air time. Its not representative of the ppl.
He ran around with a gun shooting at people , the car he drove was used with shots being fired outside a school.
He needed to be taken into custody and he tried to ram his way through a hard stop....he was a danger then to the Police and the Police knew he was a danger...he lived by the sword and died by it.
This shouldn't even be a debate.
Vehicle as a Weapon is one of the biggest threats we face today.
How about some discussion the Peter Lynch alleged suicide. A man given an excessive jail sentence for words and placards, all on the direction of Starmer.
Not fitting the GMB agenda?
All silent on msm, political prisoner. 😢. Fing sick of the race card being abused.
Labour and starmer don’t control justice department, just like the riots when the tories were in power were dealt with just as harshly. What you described would be fine if Peter lynch was peacefully protesting. He wasn’t doing that, he was at the front of a mob shouting that the hotel and immigrants should be set fire to. That was not a protest regardless of any placard he held. Whereas if he was say stood in front of his home carrying a placard saying I want better immigration control he would not have been prosecuted. Peter knew he was there as part of a violent mob, he saw police being attacked and hotel and immigrants being intimidated and he stayed and continued his action that shows intent. The country needs to severely punish this lawless mob violence and intimidation as if justice department doesn’t then people like Peter will think they can do the same thing and go unpunished. Maybe the sentence was harsher than needed but it needed to send a msg to other citizens that this behaviour will never be tolerated. If any of us take issue with uk policy or incidents, we need to voice them in a non violent manner in a forum that is civil and abiding the law. That is a society I want to live in not lawlessness and wanton violence. Peter lynch may have been a great person, but the day he took part in the mob was a bad decision
He committed the crime he was convicted for. The sentence was not excessive.
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What were the words he used?
Nels Abbey is a disgrace for what he said this morning.
My thoughts are with the Officer who was trying to protect the public from a known career criminal /person who actively used firearms in public places.
This shouldn't have gone to court-there needs to be an investigation into the CPS and the politicisation of this action.
Whoever you are Sir, why are you making excuses for criminals?
The argument that Kaba might have acted on instinct on the spur of the moment is crazy. When someone shouts "armed police put your hands up" the instinct is to put your hands up. End of.
And if the officer had been killed, would you have been on TV wringing your hands?
He used the car as a weapon therefore guilty.
Best to quietly follow requests by the police and avoid trying to run or drive away at speed.
You think that matters: it all depends what your looking at. It’s like someone saying “Oh you shouldn’t have worn that dress.”
@@OXD_17i dnt understand what you are saying
@@siblingschannelyah9909 well read it again.
Justice? For who? A gangster? If it is true that he was part of a violent gang, then the public got justice... Case closed...
Guy without a Tie is another GRIFTER!
He was a known gun man
Not often that l would say this but l'm on the side of the law on this one. And would we be having this debate if he was white and not black.
This the guy who shot someone twice in the legs before this?
System isn't broken if the fool was using a vehicle as a weapon. Tired of people defending criminals just because he is black. I'm black as well but I feel sometimes people's common sense flies through out the window
This is silly the boy tried to run down the police and got shot. This is a waste of time, he got caught and tried to basically use is car as a weapon. Can't stand sour losser and I'm black by the way. Let's campaign for righteous action not, criminal. Campaign against knife crime and save the kids not this double standards. Wrong is wrong simple
Overshadowed by the main point of the video, I want to address a comment made near the end, Life with a minimum term of 20 years does not mean you do 10 years, this myth needs to end. You do at least 20 years and as much longer as deemed necessary by the Parole Board, on release you remain subject to licence for life. He is conflating that with someone sentenced to 20 years, which for a violent offences means you do at least 12 years 8 months before doing the remaining 6 years and 4 months on licence. Whilst on licence you are not entirely at liberty, you are bound to conditions and breaches will lead to recall and subject the prisoner to a requirement to return themselves to prison and authorise police to make arrest for them being unlawfully at large.
And, SURPRISE SURPRISE....His previous criminal history has JUST been released.
He SHOT a guy in a nightclub in his legs and has loads of previous.
But this poor innocent black guy was the victim.
Dunno how his family have the neck, i really don't.
so he wasn't a wrong un trying to escape?
trying to escape his a shootable offence if your black, so you know he was unarmed, the police knew he was unarmed but your kind stick together and now say he was legitimately killed because he tried to escape.
@@BigTasty1975Justice has been done. End of.
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Why did he try to escape from the police by ramming them???
cos that's teh way he was made bro. he was gangsta thru and thru he dont listen to no popo.
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If police officers will be not confident to protect public,we all will be in denger.Police should be respected.
How about discussing the death of Peter Lynch in prison ? 61 years old with no known criminal record locked up for years for shouting and holding a sign.
Stephen Waldorf was white. 5 shots (some reported 7) 1983. Just for balance.
I mean going back to 1983 isn't the best case for balance, you couldn't find a more recent example 😂😂
oooohhh such a horrible experience. chris must of been really scared. dont make me laugh. maybe the blue lights and marked cars with "POLICE" written on them would of given him a clue :)
The audacity of some people to say that he was shot because he was black when we have footage of -
Kaba ramming the police
Kaba ramming ARMED POLICE
When we KNOW Kaba knew the police were involved
When we KNOW Kaba was driving a car linked with guns
Is this a circus?? 😂
He was a gangster for God’s sake. A career criminal.
An Audi Q8 is the vehicle of choice for the working class, apparently.
Awful channel
why?
I think he’s lying about that stop to push his own narrative. He doesn’t seem sure what happened.
Yes and he was very vague about it and quick to change the subject
More police are killed by people in cars than suspects are shot by police. Shot, not necessarily killed. There are only about 125,000 police officers in the UK against millions of Black men. It’s clear who is really in danger.
He made a big thing about split second decisions. But you can take hours watching the video. And it was still correct.
Black bloke here at the start wanted to brush quickly past why he was stopped in his car, when he was a teen! Not specific. There would have been a reason but he won’t divulge I can guarantee.
Turns out he as a gun-toting gangster. Bad luck!
Justified, simple as that.
criminals are getting more protection than their victims
It was reported that Kaba's 67 gang put a price on the policeman's head. The policeman & family had to be relocated and faced the stress of waiting 2 years for the trial on top of that.
When you live by the gun, you will die by the gun. Stop putting differences in the way by making excuses. He was a criminal.
I have been living in Britain for the past five years, and no police have stopped me illegally. Whenever I see a police officer, I see them with a smiling face. I completely disagree with the racism narrative.
You do not understand the history of racism in the country. You can easily look up cases like Stephen Lawrence, the Guildford Four, the Tottenham Three, etc and others to find out the history of racism within the British police force. You have only been here five years so you can’t know what non black people have suffered over the decades leading up to now. That kind of memory does not leave people easily.
@@jujutrini8412 I used to live in Finland, where racism is very prevalent. My wife and I were once spat at, and we frequently heard the phrase “satana,” which means “satan.” It’s a stark contrast to Britain, which feels like a friendly and welcoming society. In this case if he had complained to the police, I doubt it would have escalated this far.
@@johntilton I know non white people in this country who have had racist graffiti scrawled on their door, who have had dog faeces put through their letterbox because of their race, who have been shouted at in the street with racist slurs, who have been thrown in the back of a police van, called all kinds of racist names and beaten up then dropped off far from home with no mention of a crime having ever been committed, who have been lied about in court (using false quotes and language that they thought a Jamaican person would use even though the person wasn’t even Jamaican!) by the police and the judge even telling the police they know they are lying so the case being thrown out, I could go on and on. Racism exists in the police force in this country as well as in society. If you want to ignore it that is entirely up to you. I am in no way saying that this country is the most racist country on earth. I know it isn’t. But not being the most racist country does not mean it is not racist. Racism does not have to be straight to your face name calling either. The racism that people faced in the fifties, sixties and seventies etc is in no way like it is now. Things have improved a great deal since then but racism has not completely disappeared and it still affects people’s lives.
However, the windrush scandal only happened very recently and I know people who were deported from their own country, where they are legal citizens, simply because of their race.
He wasn't in a hard stop he's lieing
I heard on the radio that the armed Met police attended 17,000 incidents in a year but only opened fire twice. Sounds like very restrained behaviour to me.
Stiring up division yet again....
'We accept the jury's decision'....but we don't!
Chris Kaba shot man in club and was alleged core member of London gang
Not alleged WAS a notorious gang member
He was a career criminal and a gangster. He had many dead bodies in his wake
We should be ashamed of ourself if any right thinking person protests for this. Let’s leave his criminal record, how can you ram back and forth on police officers ? How? You literally don’t care who or what you hit and somehow he gets shots and some people think they need to protest? If he came out with hands out, will he get shot?
Nels spends the first 3 mins playing victim about his own experience which is completley irrelevant to this case. The car Kaba was driving a car that was involved in a shooting the night before. Kaba was using the a 2T vehicle as a battering ram and was shot to eliminate the threat. Nels arguements of a white man with a gun is very poor too as he too is shot which disregards the colour of your skin but survived. Nels arguments are very poor and victim mentality, get him off the tele. He tried to make the whole arguement about race when its nothing to do with it.
After hearing the news about Chris yesterday I Sensed something wasn't quite RIGHT !
so I did some research in Wikipedia and realised he was no angel At that point my empathy evaporated for him and his family
More information has been released that says he was a core member of the 67 gang in South London and that he was involved in a club shooting days before, my question is why did the met police hand the officer out to dry for two years neglecting this significant information being published.
Separate comment: what about accountability for being a criminal?
Now all his details and background history has been made public can you please have this guest back on tomorrow to dicuss this again.
Oh dear, oh dear, are we really going to play the race card on this one? Really?
For sure, he picked up a deck of cards from Sol Campbell on the way to the studio...