@@MasterSpade Is HEAVEN supposed to be easy to get to? NO!! And you'd know that IF YOU KNEW God's goal for creating this world in the first place: God’s goal is to reap the best of mankind from the earth, to present to his son that will return his son’s love by their own free will in Heaven for eternity. The best of mankind is called “The Bride of Christ.” We are commanded to "overcome" Satan, the world & the flesh to be in the number that goes to heaven via death or the Rapture of the Church. So you think THAT should be easy? NO! You are being vetted for a position; to be a bride. You think God wants skanks to present to his son in a wedding? GET REAL! So this life is a bit tough BY DESIGN! So suck it up. Get on with it. Play the cards you're dealt as best you can! I'm not just going to barely cross the finish line; I'm going to cross the finish line doing warp 13 w/ my hair on fire. NOTHING is going to stop me from going to heaven. So STOP wallowing in your lost & cluelessness. Get w/ the program. START TODAY NEW!! I would say that you fail to understand exactly who God is. His awesome greatness is beyond your comprehension. You're breathing air that doesn't belong to you. Taking up space that doesn't belong to you. Given a life that doesn't belong to you. He brought you from nothing and you're nothing, YET you feel totally justified to raise your tiny stupid fist at him. THAT is what you are; never mind him. That said, Jesus loves you dearly & has shown you this love by bringing you from non-existence & giving you “the gift of life.” And did you say “thank you?” No. He also removed your doom via the sin of Adam by the suffering on the cross for you. And did you say “thank you?” No. He’s also “prepared a place for you in Heaven” if you’ll only return his love that’s already given you. And did you say “thank you?” No. Again, it’s the “love” of Jesus for people is what attracts them to Christianity. Your move, Chief.
The sigh says she getting perturbed by this guys negative energy.... This guy's a schmuck! He was probably bullied as a child and gets off on on doing that back to people. If he spoke to a scientist with leaning toward a belief in God he would get schooled like the simp he is. People who are really educated. He will mostly avoid those people like the plague so he can push his intelligent ignorance. Typical delusional atheist. God can not be reached by intellect. What a d*mb a**
Dude, I prayed or asked or called out to every god or deity on the list and I got jack all.. no bitches, no money, nothing.. same old same old.. xD I really had my confidence in this satan fellow, granting me all my desires, but he's not picking up either
"I can only spread the good news, the proof is with god" So she's trying to convince people of something she can't possibly prove. That's called a scam
No, a moist rock is the "scam." ALL that atheists believe in has been totally debunked. Is HEAVEN supposed to be easy to get to? NO!! And you'd know that IF YOU KNEW God's goal for creating this world in the first place: God’s goal is to reap the best of mankind from the earth, to present to his son that will return his son’s love by their own free will in Heaven for eternity. The best of mankind is called “The Bride of Christ.” We are commanded to "overcome" Satan, the world & the flesh to be in the number that goes to heaven via death or the Rapture of the Church. So you think THAT should be easy? NO! You are being vetted for a position; to be a bride. You think God wants skanks to present to his son in a wedding? GET REAL! So this life is a bit tough BY DESIGN! So suck it up. Get on with it. Play the cards you're dealt as best you can! I'm not just going to barely cross the finish line; I'm going to cross the finish line doing warp 13 w/ my hair on fire. NOTHING is going to stop me from going to heaven. So STOP wallowing in your lost & cluelessness. Get w/ the program. START TODAY NEW!! I would say that you fail to understand exactly who God is. His awesome greatness is beyond your comprehension. You're breathing air that doesn't belong to you. Taking up space that doesn't belong to you. Given a life that doesn't belong to you. He brought you from nothing and you're nothing, YET you feel totally justified to raise your tiny stupid fist at him. THAT is what you are; never mind him. That said, Jesus loves you dearly & has shown you this love by bringing you from non-existence & giving you “the gift of life.” And did you say “thank you?” No. He also removed your doom via the sin of Adam by the suffering on the cross for you. And did you say “thank you?” No. He’s also “prepared a place for you in Heaven” if you’ll only return his love that’s already given you. And did you say “thank you?” No. Again, it’s the “love” of Jesus for people is what attracts them to Christianity. Your move, Chief.
@@PowersParty729 Heaven is real easy to get to. Listen to your preacher, thank the Lord for everything you have (every Sunday) and repent your sins. Then, and this is the important part, don't attempt to think for yourself or ask any questions.
& it's not even the True Writings but someone else's interperatation or someone else's interperatation of someone else's interperatation or someone else's interperatation of someone else's interperatation of someone else's interperatation etc...
Which is another good reason to reject Christianity because every Christian have their own interpretation of God and the Bible. Christians in general just take what they like in the Bible and dismiss what they don't like and say it's a metaphor or "that's OT stuff it's about the NT!" "It's about context!" I don't think Christians like being Christian tbh.
@Purplerose200 including islam, which is why I just didn't take the bait, if you need to only pick which verse suits you while discarding the ones you don't like and interpret that "God actually meant this!" shows how man-made the supposed "holy book" is
@@Stashmo Is HEAVEN supposed to be easy to get to? NO!! And you'd know that IF YOU KNEW God's goal for creating this world in the first place: God’s goal is to reap the best of mankind from the earth, to present to his son that will return his son’s love by their own free will in Heaven for eternity. The best of mankind is called “The Bride of Christ.” We are commanded to "overcome" Satan, the world & the flesh to be in the number that goes to heaven via death or the Rapture of the Church. So you think THAT should be easy? NO! You are being vetted for a position; to be a bride. You think God wants skanks to present to his son in a wedding? GET REAL! So this life is a bit tough BY DESIGN! So suck it up. Get on with it. Play the cards you're dealt as best you can! I'm not just going to barely cross the finish line; I'm going to cross the finish line doing warp 13 w/ my hair on fire. NOTHING is going to stop me from going to heaven. So STOP wallowing in your lost & cluelessness. Get w/ the program. START TODAY NEW!! I would say that you fail to understand exactly who God is. His awesome greatness is beyond your comprehension. You're breathing air that doesn't belong to you. Taking up space that doesn't belong to you. Given a life that doesn't belong to you. He brought you from nothing and you're nothing, YET you feel totally justified to raise your tiny stupid fist at him. THAT is what you are; never mind him. That said, Jesus loves you dearly & has shown you this love by bringing you from non-existence & giving you “the gift of life.” And did you say “thank you?” No. He also removed your doom via the sin of Adam by the suffering on the cross for you. And did you say “thank you?” No. He’s also “prepared a place for you in Heaven” if you’ll only return his love that’s already given you. And did you say “thank you?” No. Again, it’s the “love” of Jesus for people is what attracts them to Christianity. Your move, Chief.
it does seem to be a trend that The nicer a person is The more prone they are to delusion doesn't necessarily mean it'll happen, but by contract a person that isn't nice and says fuck you is a person who is less likely to accept something like this
It’s an allegory to Jesus being your saviour and saving you. If a firefighter is there to save you from a house fire, why would you reject that help? God is there to save you whether you accept that help or not.
"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply to painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we've been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back."-Carl Sagan. You have been bamboozled my friend. I hope you are freed from your celestial prison soon.
I was brought up Christian as a child, had doubts, then became a Christian again as an adult. As soon as I questioned my reasons for believing, I realized I had none. Now I'm atheist as a result. I see no good reason to be a theist.
also brought up as a christian,i cant imagine ever being a christian again,i ofc can be convinced a god exists,but activly worship the god of the christian religion?lol no way
I`ve had it easier, I pestetred my grandpa to learn me to read and write at the age of 4years. Then reading through our fasmilys books, and all I could find, I could NOT believe anymore .......................
My Dad is a hardcore Christian and our conversations sound exactly like this. It is depressing that even when you point out how illogical a religious person's position is, they somehow remain unconvinced. I can't comprehend how some religious people seem to be so intelligent in some areas but turn their brain off when you show them contradictions in their scripture.
"ILLOGICAL!" Screams the lost and clueless atheist fool that thinks star dust, moist rocks and mud puddles have the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES AND MEANS to create/design LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS, MORALITY, the human being and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body :) Atheism is pure idiocy. The religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. That's because atheism RUNS from "reality." I would add that as an atheist, you're bankrupt of RATIONAL/POSSIBLE causes for life, intelligence, consciousness, morality and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body. Atheism has no RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step by step atheist explanation for reality. That’s because there isn’t one. THINK ABOUT what you’re getting into w/ the cult of atheism. GET OUT NOW. I’ll help you find truth. Atheism has none. Atheism is a religion. A religion of “SELF.” Instead of properly worshipping God and putting him first in your life; YOU PUT YOURSELF FIRST. EVERYBODY HAS A FAITH. It’s just that your faith is stupid. Atheism tenets (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution) I debunk w/ ease. Any belief re the cause of this universe is a religion and you've tagged yourself an "atheist" because you believe atheist ideas re the cause of this universe (nature: time/space/matter/energy. You also believe that evolution is the "controlling power" over life, instead of God. THAT is religion. Either you have a RATIONAL POSSIBLE world view or you don't. To be an atheist and have no factual basis for your cult, is to be content to be even more lost and clueless than yesterday. Why do you cling so desperately to an asinine atheist cult that's INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS? Einstein called atheism "a religion formed to reject other religions. How cute and desperate they are."
Looks at two dry pieces of bread, laying naxt to each other so that the cut in between the slices is able to meet back up when the sandwich is folded closed. “Which slice to cover in peanut butter” -sinner, sinning since 4000 years before they and christ were born.
However it's Christians job to tell people what they should believe in and to judge people according the lifestyles that THEY don't approve of? It's crazy.....
I wonder how Tara would respond if I told her that I knew the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists, and when she asks me to prove it, I tell her that it's not my job to prove it. I wonder how convincing she would find that non-argument.
that's just comes across as ridicule - to get under their skin, talk about how Mohammad literally dictated the words of God via the archangel Gabriel who confirmed Jesus was indeed one of many revered prophets of "The Word (TM)" but very much not divine. This gets to the heart of the matter like no other can.
The mental juggling is incredible. She doesn't listen to her own words. I think if she listened to what she said and I don't think she would hear the flaws in her argument.
He puts pressure on his callers, moves the goal post or tries to confuse them to make it look like his point is valid. This guy's a narcissist prick. If anyone starts to poke a hole in his delusional stance he hangs up because he's a liar and a coward.
if you ask them, the response is “it’s on god’s time” which is even worse of a response because he’s cool with all the chaos and nonsense that’s playing out because he wants us to figure out for ourselves what the truth is.
Dude, she doesn't even know what her position is. She disagrees with them and then agrees with what they say. she disagrees with them and then agrees with what they say.
I don't think one could expect much more mental clarity from someone who doesn't know what sex they are. Once that revelation came about, it explained a lot.
God is coming back....soon....I promise.... hopefully🤞🏾 How do people still believe this shit? My invisible friend is coming just give me a few more minutes.
Maybe the same reason they think everyone slse should have unlimited patience. Its like expecting your dad to come back after he explicitly said he wasnt.
It is estimated that around 100 billion people have lived in this world so far. Now, how far spread was this storybook, let's say 300 years ago. So, all those billions of people have never heard of that god. Couldn't have heard of that god even if they wanted to. Now, that's what I call being very good at playing hide and seek.
The funny thing is the vibe I got from this person is that they actually think they accomplished something here, like they think they "got through" to someone that was listening and stuff and this was a fruitful endeavor. Crazy.
Honestly this one is sad because she seems very nice. She really hung in there and tried to defend her position. Def deserves credit for that if nothing else
@@user-Terry314 There were occasional hesitations led me to think there might have been thought but then she came back with words indicating there'd been no thought.. Impossible to interact with a person like that.
So, by her logic, if I had eight kids and I wanted to prove to them that the way I think they should live is the best way, a good method would be to only teach ONE of the kids, and let the others screw up their lives until they finally see that the one that I taught is doing better?
@@JasonTaylor90210 why inconceivable? As long as the origin of the universe remains unanswered, there will always be people who preach a supernatural origin and therefore religion. There is possibly no way to find out what happened before the universe exist because there is no information that could conceivably be derived from such a time if one existed
Something I haven’t seen touched on was that Adam and his trans clone Eve were introduced into the world as fully formed adults that didn’t have the benefit of a childhood where most reinforcement for right and wrong is ingrained. Leaving them to their own devices would be equivalent to leaving a toddler unsupervised then holding the toddler accountable for any actions you didn’t approve of that the toddler may have done. Secondary until they ate the apple right and wrong would be as foreign to them as us knowing what precisely is at the center of a black hole. In a court proceeding I think it would be very difficult to hold mud man and his clone accountable but the being that was inherently responsible for them it would absolutely be convicted of negligence.
My boss has ordered myself and co-workers to come in every Sunday to sing songs about him. Only for an hour, or so. But now he wants our partners and kids to come in, too. He said if we don't do this, he's going to burn us. I've been to HR and they're not helping.
So, are you saying there were no clever theologians prior to 1901 since your standard for who is only considered to be clever is winning The Nobel Prize? Also, Nobel prizes in literature are for works produced in that year the prize is offered to and for the peace prize it’s offered to the efforts of an individual, not a book. So do you even have a point?
@@kevinx7015 discovering god or the "super natural" would probably give you a prize in physics. We've had clever people for 20000 years, I chose the Nobel prize because we all know about it. Have a tremendous weekend
@@hansj5846 So, you don’t actually have a point since you haven’t established that what is important has to fit your personal criteria of what you want to receive as true. Got it.
Science = Using facts to prove a theory, and being able to repeatedly show it. Faith = Believing in something that has no proof of existence, and willing to argue your entire life that it does.
The scientific method involves careful observation coupled with rigorous scepticism, because cognitive assumptions can distort the interpretation of the observation
If you have faith as huge as a mountain, you can never make a mountain jump into the ocean. Religious people need to come out of their caves from time to time.
This is a truly lost person searching for some sense in their life. They advocate for a book and religion that clearly hates them, they make claims that are immediately contradicting themselves, and they don’t even see the irony in it all. Truly sad
My heart actually aches for her. She’s definitely lost, but maximum kudos to her for being able to actually think about what was being said, reconsider her own statements and beliefs, and remain legitimately open minded the entire time. She’s outdone so many “scholars” and “experts” that have gone to tears mere minutes into discussions with M Dilly. May God bless her if he’s real.
"FAIRY TALES!" Screams the atheist fool that believes the human being came from a rock, that morality came from a mud puddle, that life can come from a warm pond. Son, we have billions of mud puddles, rocks & warm ponds. NONE OF THEM has ever produced anything NEW. You're atheist desperation is noted. SORRY KID, but it’s blatant stupidity (atheism) to think that star dust, moist rocks and mud puddles have the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE AND MEANS to create/design LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS, MORALITY, the human being and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body :) Atheism is pure idiocy. You have a ton to learn. Thank God I'm here to teach you the facts, because you're totally lost & clueless.
@@DrJames3163 Repeat after me: abiogenesis and evolution can explain existence of life and speciation as we know it. Evolution is one of the most proven scientific theory in the history, abiogenesis was proven as viable and totally possible origin of life on early Earth. We have REAL POSSIBLE WAY HOW LIFE EMERGED ON EARTH COMPLETELY NATURALLY.
@@DrJames3163 Repeat after me: we have NO EVIDENCE about any of more than 3000 gods. Every religion survive only through ABUSING OF CHILDREN with brainwashing and theistic indoctrinaction. Every religion is cult based on dogma.
"Something better is coming," for almost 2,000 years now. I can't fathom that I once believed all that b.s. for over 40 years. Santa Claus, the easter bunny, the tooth fairy, the great pumpkin and finally god!
So Satan was calling the shots? So he is more powerful than god? Why would an all powerful god allow the existence of Satan in the first place? Why does anyone believe at all? This is one of the best AXP videos ever!
These people are completely sick. I have been raised as Christian by my mom, sort of, dad was atheist already and knew that in time we (me and brother) will be as well. But even as Christian (Catholic) my mom always told me that the crazy stories in the bible who are magical and contradict science, we're not real. Just allegories. I mean, even as Christian, between 6 and 15 I have always been told these stories were rubbish. It makes no sense to me that grown up people believe this crap.
@@jaflenbond7854Your nasty book is not proof of anything except brainwashing. The people who poisoned your mind should be in jail. I bet you didn't even listen to the video. Would you like to respond to the arguments? Go on give it a go.
@@jaflenbond7854 Repeat after me: we have NO EVIDENCE about any of more than 3000 gods. Every religion survive only through ABUSING OF CHILDREN with brainwashing and theistic indoctrinaction. Every religion is cult based on dogma.
@@jaflenbond7854 Repeat after me: Bible is very poor, immoral, incoherrent book of stories and fairy tales with more than 550 direct contradictions. It's just a summary of lore, beliefs, and culture of iron age ignorant superstitious misogynistic violent immoral goat herders, who INVENTED GOD for explaining pure natural phenomena. God is just man made idea, nothing more.
@@jaflenbond7854 Repeat after me: Jesus is just a legend, myth. We have zero evidence about his existence outside of the bible and in the bible everything is just a hearsay written decades after his alleged existence. Babbling about Jesus is as much valid as babbling about Sauron from Lord of the Ring.
@@Kdeezy1 That seems like it would be big news, if true. Shouldn't he be a huge celebrity? Does he have an Instagram or something I can check out? Or is he retired, living the quiet life?
Because they think saying 'I don't know' is taking the L and they don't want to that. Instead, what they'll do is put us through all these mental gymnastics to get a gotcha moment.
@@lifeinthe80sBut here's the difference, when Atheists say I don't know but it's more so "I don't know let's do some research or wait for more research to be done". When Christians say I don't know they jump back on faith because they have no valid reasons to believe in God or their religion.
The first time in a discussion someone doesn't answer your question appropriately out of common courtesy, it should be a sign of where the truth of the debate or conversation is going?
Personal experience for believing in god is not good enough when that same god will damn people to eternal torture for not believing. If he is all loving, he should show it to everyone with this personal experience thing. If he won't, he's clearly not all loving.
"LOGIC!" Screams the lost and clueless atheist fool that thinks star dust, moist rocks and mud puddles have the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES AND MEANS to create/design LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS, MORALITY, the human being and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body :) Atheism is pure idiocy. The religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. That's because atheism RUNS from "reality." I would add that as an atheist, you're bankrupt of RATIONAL/POSSIBLE causes for life, intelligence, consciousness, morality and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body. Atheism has no RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step by step atheist explanation for reality. That’s because there isn’t one. THINK ABOUT what you’re getting into w/ the cult of atheism. GET OUT NOW. I’ll help you find truth. Atheism has none.
It's spelled "deity." Unless you are heavy and are actually on a diet. So are you saying that God created us, knows about every sparrow and cares deeply, but is hiding because of petulance?
The problem with the symbolic argument is that in the next few verses, it literally points out that Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden because if they had also eaten from the Tree of Life they would have lived forever. This suggests that the trees themselves were actually magical
He not only lied, but tricked them: How can you make a moral decision, i.e. know that disobeying god is "evil", when you do not have the knowledge of "good and evil"? That doesn't make ANY sense. It's like giving a live grenade to a baby, and complaining it destroyed your house.
@@vertigo4236exactly, you can't get mad at someone who literally has no moral compass and doesn't even know what good and evil is. That's beyond insane.
@@flyguyry1 Wow, you really need to stop being so lazy and read the Bible for yourself. Sigh, so pathetic. All right, lazy, here is the passage from Genesis, but your ignorance of your own religion is so typical and pathetic. And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you[f] shall surely die.” So did he DIE THAT DAY? NOPE!!! God LIED because he was afraid that Adam and Eve would become JUST LIKE HIM. Here's that passage, lazy. Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”- 23 therefore the Lord God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. Stop being such a sheep, read things for yourself, and try to think for yourself.
When I was 5 or 6 years old, my parents gave me books about Aesop’s fables, Mother Goose stories, Fairy tales, etc., and almost all of those stories had talking animals. I asked my Dad if animals can really talk, and he told me that it was make-believe (which I later labeled Suspended disbelief). I put those books on my make-believe shelf, along with Mickey Mouse, Peter Rabbit, and Winnie the Pooh. One day my well-meaning but deluded Presbyterian grandmother gave me a book of Bible stories for children. In the very first story, I found a talking snake. That book went straight to the make-believe shelf, where it has remained for over 65 years. (Later edit: I acknowledge that there is one species of animal that can talk. Ours.) (And some birds.)
Adam and Eve ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Before they ate the fruit, they did not know good and evil, right or wrong. So, up until they took the first bite, they did not have a concept of wrong, so they did not know that it was wrong to disobey God. God punished them, and all future generations, for doing something they had no reason to know was wrong. God is a total ass-h*le. Plus, that totally negates the idea of original sin, so what is Jesus for? Another thing, why would they suddenly become “aware of their nakedness,” as if suddenly they think it is wrong? If I was God, I would punish them for being ashamed of the beautiful bodies that I created for them. Adam and Eve’s only sin was the invention of body shame.
Steel manning the Christian position they might argue that it was because god said not to yet they did, not they had no knowledge of right or wrong prior to eating the fruit or whatever. But I agree god (if it exists at all) would still be an asshole overall lol.
The fact we wear clothes is proof we are aware of our nakedness and confirms the genesis account to be true. And God told adam not to eat from the tree. He knew what not to do. Just because he didn’t know it was evil to do that doesn’t mean he didn’t know not to do it. I thought you guys liked to think logically?¿
Adam still knew what not to do. He didn’t know it was evil. That’s not logical thinking. Just because you don’t know it’s wrong to not obey, doesn’t mean you don’t have the capacity to obey. And the fact that we wear clothing at all just confirms genesis. We are aware of our nakedness and shame so we cover up. If we evolved then we would be like the animals and not be wearing clothes. We would be suited for our environment like every other creature.
Adam still had the mental capacity to obey what God told him to do. Just because you don’t know it’s wrong to do something doesn’t mean you can’t obey what someone told you to do or not do. The fact we wear clothes at all just confirms the genesis account.
Persecuted for fictional crimes. Every example of God's behavior sure sounds like human behavior to me. It's almost as if humans invented the concept as a self-insert. Another score for Voltaire
We are immortal. Our soul & spirit are immortal. Hell? We only have the Bible and thousands of NDE testimonies to know about hell. Some people say “WE LIVE ONCE!” Yes and you die once also. And you’ll be dead for a longgggg time. 100 trillion yrs and you’ll still be dead. But hey, we don’t really die; we just change locations. God kills us all at some point: “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:” - Hebrews 9:27 And if you don’t understand eternity now, you’ll understand it then. You arrive in hell (if you die sealed in your sin) the moment you die w/ your last gasp and your temporary free will expired. THEN you will wish 100+ trillion times that you had never been born. IMMEDIATELY you know you’re in hell, because the heat is much too hot for life. The stench is far worse than dozens of open sewers & the sulfuric smell is toxic. But you’ve taken God for granted and without his grace, you’re in hell now FOREVER. And the most horrible mental torture you bear in hell is that you know you will never get out. On earth, you can breathe, be comforted, eat, smell fragrances, enjoy relationships, sleep, daydream, walk around in freedom, watch entertainment, go swimming and enjoy the things God has provided. But in hell NONE of that is possible. To add some more, there will be no comforts in hell, such as communication, a fresh breath of air, relaxation, quiet, room temperature, calm, water, freedom from predators, food. On top of that, demons will torture you. Whatever sin you committed on earth, you will be grouped w/ those people and tormented by demons FOREVER that actually get high on your pain. If you’re not screaming loud enough, demons come to you to fix it. Don't continue to be ignorant. God loves you because you were created in his image. But he's also your Judge. I would say that you fail to understand exactly who God is. His awesome greatness is beyond your comprehension. You're breathing air that doesn't belong to you. Taking up space that doesn't belong to you. Given a life that doesn't belong to you. He brought you from nothing and you're nothing, YET you feel totally justified to raise your tiny stupid fist at him. THAT is what you are; never mind him. That said, Jesus loves you dearly & has shown you this love by bringing you from non-existence & giving you “the gift of life.” And did you say “thank you?” No. He also removed your doom via the sin of Adam by the suffering on the cross for you. And did you say “thank you?” No. He’s also “prepared a place for you in Heaven” if you’ll only return his love that’s already given you. And did you say “thank you?” No. Again, it’s the “love” of Jesus for people is what attracts them to Christianity. Your move, Chief.
@user-dy3uh I've apparently did more research that you, because that happens every day and there are many famous cases of the very thing you describe, whether it's atheists, Hindu's or any of the other cults.
@@PowersParty729 You've never done an ounce of research in your life. Otherwise, you'd have been smarter than make a prophetic claim with an expiration date.
I love it when the callers exhale loudly. It means that they are cornered, they don’t have an answer the question, but then most of them will still come up with some kind of word salad because they will not let go of their belief system.
Why would one need to provide evidence in order to determine whether or not having faith in a God who wants us to rely on faith instead of relying on established evidence? After all, it’s possible that a lack of such evidence for the world to see could be due to there being a God who withholds that evidence of divinity from the world because that God wants us to rely on faith in that God. And such obvious evidence of faith in such a God, such as a miraculous event, would make the point of having faith in that God moot. So, how does your request for evidence matter?
@@kevinx7015 "how does your request for evidence matter" I didn't ask evidence for god. I asked for evidence that would demonstrate that when trying to establish what exists in reality (gods or anything else), the claim that faith was better than rolling dice was a correct claim.
@@JGM0JGM So what is your realistic evidence that proves the belief in a God who witholds evidence of divinity on purpose can be applied to the scientific method? If you can’t provide such evidence then your claim that faith is no better than rolling the dice is not proven to be correct.
0:20 "it's related to the PROBLEM OF EVIL" LOL. Was there ever a thing called "the problem of evil" ? "Basically if we go back to the garden of eden" Yeah, let's go back to a place that never existed it's fucking amazing how these people start. Hi my name is Tara Proceeds to immediately spin absolutely bullshit
If the story of Adam and Eve was true which it isn't it makes God worse than Satan. God allowed man kinds oldest enemy into the garden along with two magical trees one of which the snake guy talked them into eating while God sat by and watched.
7:45 "most people of faith god has not revealed himself to" funny, most people that believe in dumpty the ex pres he has revealed himself to, and they still believe his bs.
Con artists will never change. Do what we say (don't learn; we'll tell you what to do), remain poor (we want your money while you're alive), turn the other cheek when you're abused (especially by us) and have faith that you'll get your payday after you are dead. Likely story.
Christianity revealed the God they believe in through their Bibles. Isaiah 45:7 “I form the light, and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord that do all these things". From Genesis through Revelation Christianity's God reveals himself to be insecure, indecisive, intolerant, destructive and genocidal. And it all started when we chose knowledge.
Right, think about it. It's almost an unconscious metaphor. The more we learn, the more we become, the less need we have for a master, or a savior. I don't think the people that made these stories up understood this - but we can. The things we attributed to a being outside of time and space are now quantified, codified, explained. We know more about the universe we find ourselves in every day. That's why so many of the uneducated or undereducated cling to faith - they can't conceive of a world outside of the stories they internalized.
We are spending so much time talking about God and debating his existence. If he does exist, it should be proven with evidence, not just cheap talk. Looking at the complexity of the universe with millions of stars and galaxies, it seems impossible for his existence. If he is more complicated than the universe, or if he could just reveal himself, that would settle this argument. Take care.
I honestly feel that even if we managed to get everyone (theist and non-theist alike) to agree that the entire "fall from grace" portion of the tale of Adam & Eve was just metaphorical, it's still an extremely shitty metaphor. The moral of the story amounts to "do as I say and don't question it", yet given that this supposedly all knowing and allegedly wise God made the rather silly mistake of making humans inherently curious and prone to questioning every bloody thing under the sun and beyond, isn't it all too inevitable that humanity would have "failed" to follow his rather arbitrary and poorly explained rules? Even if we toss the metaphor angle out entirely and you could somehow convince every atheist to abandon their scepticism and just assent to the notion that this one particular bit of the Bible was a factual historical event - all it proves is that the Christian God is an idiot! *_edit:_* "I realized that it wasn't our job as Christians to prove things, we're here to plant seeds and it's God's job [to prove things]." (* I presume this is where the caller was going) "Actually it's your job to give a reason for the faith that you have. So it is your job to prove things." "Right, exactly..." ░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░▄▄███▄▄▄░▄▄██▄░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░░░██▀███████████████▀▀▄█░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░░█▀▄▀▀▄██████████████▄░░█░░░░░ ░░░░░░░█▀▀░▄██████████████▄█▀░░▀▄░░░░ ░░░░░▄▀░░░▀▀▄████████████████▄░░░█░░░ ░░░░░▀░░░░▄███▀░░███▄████░████░░░░▀▄░ ░░░▄▀░░░░▄████░░▀▀░▀░░░░░░██░▀▄░░░░▀▄ ░▄▀░░░░░▄▀▀██▀░░░░░▄░░▀▄░░██░░░▀▄░░░░ █░░░░░█▀░░░██▄░░░░░▀▀█▀░░░█░░░░░░█░░░ █░░░▄▀░░░░░░██░░░░░▀██▀░░█▀▄░░░░░░▀▀▀ ▀▀▀▀░▄▄▄▄▄▄▀▀░█░░░░░░░░░▄█░░█▀▀▀▀▀█░░ ░░░░█░░░▀▀░░░░░░▀▄░░░▄▄██░░░█░░░░░▀▄░ ░░░░█░░░░░░░░░░░░█▄▀▀▀▀▀█░░░█░░░░░░█░ ░░░░▀░░░░░░░░░░░░░▀░░░░▀░░░░▀░░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░
I palm my face every time they tell the caller they're wrong and the caller says, "Right. Exactly..." and just continue.
They're waiting for their chance to continue proselytizing
She has brain damaged
Because they're not listening, just waiting for their turn to talk again.
Exactly, she contradicted herself at every turn.
I'm driving while listening to this, so all I could do was shake my head.
'god' reveals himself to some people depending on how batshit crazy they are.
That's funny.
🤔
Good One !!!!!
@@gmswhackos2652 and accurate
That's because religion is a mental illness
God could snap his magically fingers, and make every conscious being in the universe, know his intentions and that he exists. And yet nothing.
@@lifeinthe80s, indeed, for faith can be a reason to believe ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING.
@@lifeinthe80sI also have little faith. It's basically useless and completely unreliable so ya, I'll stick with logic and reason.
And he makes his decision on who goes to heaven and who goes to hell based on whether they were able to blindly believe he is real.
He is going to do something like that in due time.
@@lifeinthe80s have*
That sigh she emitted says it all.
It says she was forced to use her Brain. Believers are not used to that...
9:07
@@MasterSpade Is HEAVEN supposed to be easy to get to? NO!! And you'd know that IF YOU KNEW God's goal for creating this world in the first place:
God’s goal is to reap the best of mankind from the earth, to present to his son that will return his son’s love by their own free will in Heaven for eternity. The best of mankind is called “The Bride of Christ.” We are commanded to "overcome" Satan, the world & the flesh to be in the number that goes to heaven via death or the Rapture of the Church.
So you think THAT should be easy? NO! You are being vetted for a position; to be a bride. You think God wants skanks to present to his son in a wedding? GET REAL! So this life is a bit tough BY DESIGN! So suck it up. Get on with it. Play the cards you're dealt as best you can! I'm not just going to barely cross the finish line; I'm going to cross the finish line doing warp 13 w/ my hair on fire. NOTHING is going to stop me from going to heaven. So STOP wallowing in your lost & cluelessness. Get w/ the program. START TODAY NEW!! I would say that you fail to understand exactly who God is. His awesome greatness is beyond your comprehension. You're breathing air that doesn't belong to you. Taking up space that doesn't belong to you. Given a life that doesn't belong to you. He brought you from nothing and you're nothing, YET you feel totally justified to raise your tiny stupid fist at him. THAT is what you are; never mind him. That said, Jesus loves you dearly & has shown you this love by bringing you from non-existence & giving you “the gift of life.” And did you say “thank you?” No. He also removed your doom via the sin of Adam by the suffering on the cross for you. And did you say “thank you?” No. He’s also “prepared a place for you in Heaven” if you’ll only return his love that’s already given you. And did you say “thank you?” No. Again, it’s the “love” of Jesus for people is what attracts them to Christianity. Your move, Chief.
The sigh says she getting perturbed by this guys negative energy.... This guy's a schmuck! He was probably bullied as a child and gets off on on doing that back to people. If he spoke to a scientist with leaning toward a belief in God he would get schooled like the simp he is. People who are really educated. He will mostly avoid those people like the plague so he can push his intelligent ignorance. Typical delusional atheist. God can not be reached by intellect. What a d*mb a**
God is great at hide and seek but he really really sucks at show and tell.
Yes indeed
‘Nuff said.👍
😂 just perfect
@@jesse1008 yeah that was great 😆
You have to make the effort to find him. He gave free will to chose or reject him. You can't even see him behind his creation. Seek him out
The only thing worse than having an imaginary friend is having an imaginary enemy
All different religions fight one another to prove they have the right God.
And people with imaginary friends have made me their imaginary enemy my entire life
Religion is a mental illness
I used to have an imaginary friend, then she started bullying me.
You need both so you can have an imaginary conflict so you can be more easily controlled.
Well said.
It's funny how God only reveals himself to people who already believe in him...
Dude, I prayed or asked or called out to every god or deity on the list and I got jack all.. no bitches, no money, nothing.. same old same old.. xD I really had my confidence in this satan fellow, granting me all my desires, but he's not picking up either
So much misunderstanding
"I can only spread the good news, the proof is with god"
So she's trying to convince people of something she can't possibly prove. That's called a scam
No, a moist rock is the "scam." ALL that atheists believe in has been totally debunked.
Is HEAVEN supposed to be easy to get to? NO!! And you'd know that IF YOU KNEW God's goal for creating this world in the first place:
God’s goal is to reap the best of mankind from the earth, to present to his son that will return his son’s love by their own free will in Heaven for eternity. The best of mankind is called “The Bride of Christ.” We are commanded to "overcome" Satan, the world & the flesh to be in the number that goes to heaven via death or the Rapture of the Church.
So you think THAT should be easy? NO! You are being vetted for a position; to be a bride. You think God wants skanks to present to his son in a wedding? GET REAL! So this life is a bit tough BY DESIGN! So suck it up. Get on with it. Play the cards you're dealt as best you can! I'm not just going to barely cross the finish line; I'm going to cross the finish line doing warp 13 w/ my hair on fire. NOTHING is going to stop me from going to heaven. So STOP wallowing in your lost & cluelessness. Get w/ the program. START TODAY NEW!! I would say that you fail to understand exactly who God is. His awesome greatness is beyond your comprehension. You're breathing air that doesn't belong to you. Taking up space that doesn't belong to you. Given a life that doesn't belong to you. He brought you from nothing and you're nothing, YET you feel totally justified to raise your tiny stupid fist at him. THAT is what you are; never mind him. That said, Jesus loves you dearly & has shown you this love by bringing you from non-existence & giving you “the gift of life.” And did you say “thank you?” No. He also removed your doom via the sin of Adam by the suffering on the cross for you. And did you say “thank you?” No. He’s also “prepared a place for you in Heaven” if you’ll only return his love that’s already given you. And did you say “thank you?” No. Again, it’s the “love” of Jesus for people is what attracts them to Christianity. Your move, Chief.
@@PowersParty729 Heaven is real easy to get to.
Listen to your preacher, thank the Lord for everything you have (every Sunday) and repent your sins.
Then, and this is the important part, don't attempt to think for yourself or ask any questions.
"Trust me bro."
You can't prove anything.
@@scotttchviski6706 right, just be gullible and follow blindly like sheeps like urself, Gotcha
"I interpret the Scripture ..." is the path to confusion, idiocy, and endless nonesense
So sadly true for the people lost to reason
& it's not even the True Writings but someone else's interperatation or
someone else's interperatation of someone else's interperatation or
someone else's interperatation of someone else's interperatation of someone else's interperatation
etc...
The telephone game
Which is another good reason to reject Christianity because every Christian have their own interpretation of God and the Bible. Christians in general just take what they like in the Bible and dismiss what they don't like and say it's a metaphor or "that's OT stuff it's about the NT!" "It's about context!" I don't think Christians like being Christian tbh.
@Purplerose200 including islam, which is why I just didn't take the bait, if you need to only pick which verse suits you while discarding the ones you don't like and interpret that "God actually meant this!" shows how man-made the supposed "holy book" is
"Right" - moves onto next point without acknowledging anything
this is a formula all theists use when they do not want to acknowledge the point...
YES
"Right" is just a brain dead word they use for a blanket statement
@@cobra6481or when they’re not listening
@@ejflor1313 totes! 😂
The fact that the caller is such a nice person makes her delusion all the sadder.
Not really, if you were in a burning house would you ignore the firefighter trying to get you out of there?
@@HunterAnsorge-ok9jk Huh?
@@Stashmo Is HEAVEN supposed to be easy to get to? NO!! And you'd know that IF YOU KNEW God's goal for creating this world in the first place:
God’s goal is to reap the best of mankind from the earth, to present to his son that will return his son’s love by their own free will in Heaven for eternity. The best of mankind is called “The Bride of Christ.” We are commanded to "overcome" Satan, the world & the flesh to be in the number that goes to heaven via death or the Rapture of the Church.
So you think THAT should be easy? NO! You are being vetted for a position; to be a bride. You think God wants skanks to present to his son in a wedding? GET REAL! So this life is a bit tough BY DESIGN! So suck it up. Get on with it. Play the cards you're dealt as best you can! I'm not just going to barely cross the finish line; I'm going to cross the finish line doing warp 13 w/ my hair on fire. NOTHING is going to stop me from going to heaven. So STOP wallowing in your lost & cluelessness. Get w/ the program. START TODAY NEW!! I would say that you fail to understand exactly who God is. His awesome greatness is beyond your comprehension. You're breathing air that doesn't belong to you. Taking up space that doesn't belong to you. Given a life that doesn't belong to you. He brought you from nothing and you're nothing, YET you feel totally justified to raise your tiny stupid fist at him. THAT is what you are; never mind him. That said, Jesus loves you dearly & has shown you this love by bringing you from non-existence & giving you “the gift of life.” And did you say “thank you?” No. He also removed your doom via the sin of Adam by the suffering on the cross for you. And did you say “thank you?” No. He’s also “prepared a place for you in Heaven” if you’ll only return his love that’s already given you. And did you say “thank you?” No. Again, it’s the “love” of Jesus for people is what attracts them to Christianity. Your move, Chief.
it does seem to be a trend that
The nicer a person is
The more prone they are to delusion
doesn't necessarily mean it'll happen, but
by contract a person that isn't nice and says fuck you is a person who is less likely to accept something like this
It’s an allegory to Jesus being your saviour and saving you. If a firefighter is there to save you from a house fire, why would you reject that help? God is there to save you whether you accept that help or not.
"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply to painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we've been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back."-Carl Sagan. You have been bamboozled my friend. I hope you are freed from your celestial prison soon.
I was brought up Christian as a child, had doubts, then became a Christian again as an adult. As soon as I questioned my reasons for believing, I realized I had none. Now I'm atheist as a result. I see no good reason to be a theist.
also brought up as a christian,i cant imagine ever being a christian again,i ofc can be convinced a god exists,but activly worship the god of the christian religion?lol no way
@@lifeinthe80s na,i dont worship pro slavery,genosidal maniacs
@@lifeinthe80s and you should come to reason already
I`ve had it easier, I pestetred my grandpa to learn me to read and write at the age of 4years. Then reading through our fasmilys books, and all I could find, I could NOT believe anymore .......................
@@lifeinthe80sHow exactly do you know that any supernatural claims made in the bible are true?
My Dad is a hardcore Christian and our conversations sound exactly like this. It is depressing that even when you point out how illogical a religious person's position is, they somehow remain unconvinced. I can't comprehend how some religious people seem to be so intelligent in some areas but turn their brain off when you show them contradictions in their scripture.
Sunk Cost Fallacy
"ILLOGICAL!" Screams the lost and clueless atheist fool that thinks star dust, moist rocks and mud puddles have the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES AND MEANS to create/design LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS, MORALITY, the human being and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body :) Atheism is pure idiocy.
The religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. That's because atheism RUNS from "reality." I would add that as an atheist, you're bankrupt of RATIONAL/POSSIBLE causes for life, intelligence, consciousness, morality and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body.
Atheism has no RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step by step atheist explanation for reality. That’s because there isn’t one. THINK ABOUT what you’re getting into w/ the cult of atheism. GET OUT NOW. I’ll help you find truth. Atheism has none.
Atheism is a religion. A religion of “SELF.” Instead of properly worshipping God and putting him first in your life; YOU PUT YOURSELF FIRST.
EVERYBODY HAS A FAITH. It’s just that your faith is stupid. Atheism tenets (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution) I debunk w/ ease. Any belief re the cause of this universe is a religion and you've tagged yourself an "atheist" because you believe atheist ideas re the cause of this universe (nature: time/space/matter/energy. You also believe that evolution is the "controlling power" over life, instead of God. THAT is religion.
Either you have a RATIONAL POSSIBLE world view or you don't. To be an atheist and have no factual basis for your cult, is to be content to be even more lost and clueless than yesterday.
Why do you cling so desperately to an asinine atheist cult that's INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS? Einstein called atheism "a religion formed to reject other religions. How cute and desperate they are."
@@DrJames3163 You should've left your hate in prison, NEPy.
@@DrJames3163
Six years later, you’re still using “moist rocks and mud puddles”..
😂🤦♂️
@@DrJames3163those voices are still screaming at you?
See a real doctor
4:01 "It's not our job as christians -- " To think... it's not your job as christ believers to ever think for yourself.
Looks at two dry pieces of bread, laying naxt to each other so that the cut in between the slices is able to meet back up when the sandwich is folded closed.
“Which slice to cover in peanut butter” -sinner, sinning since 4000 years before they and christ were born.
However it's Christians job to tell people what they should believe in and to judge people according the lifestyles that THEY don't approve of? It's crazy.....
I wonder how Tara would respond if I told her that I knew the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists, and when she asks me to prove it, I tell her that it's not my job to prove it. I wonder how convincing she would find that non-argument.
Difference is, you can throw a handful of spaghetti in the air and take a picture of it and have more proof than Theists do of their phony gods
@@nsf001-3 Right!!
@@nsf001-3😂
Yes. It it is only true if she believes it... whatever 'it' is....
that's just comes across as ridicule - to get under their skin, talk about how Mohammad literally dictated the words of God via the archangel Gabriel who confirmed Jesus was indeed one of many revered prophets of "The Word (TM)" but very much not divine. This gets to the heart of the matter like no other can.
The mental juggling is incredible. She doesn't listen to her own words. I think if she listened to what she said and I don't think she would hear the flaws in her argument.
Like each and every theist that calls this kind of shows.
Agreed ...if I'd had to juggle like that I'd be a mess....seems like a lot of sincere lack of sincerity if you understand what I mean
Word salad too
He puts pressure on his callers, moves the goal post or tries to confuse them to make it look like his point is valid. This guy's a narcissist prick. If anyone starts to poke a hole in his delusional stance he hangs up because he's a liar and a coward.
She is so good at juggling she could be in a circus.
2017- "God's going to reveal himself... soon"
2024- "What the fuck is taking so long!"
if you ask them, the response is “it’s on god’s time” which is even worse of a response because he’s cool with all the chaos and nonsense that’s playing out because he wants us to figure out for ourselves what the truth is.
Dude, she doesn't even know what her position is. She disagrees with them and then agrees with what they say. she disagrees with them and then agrees with what they say.
Indoctrination at work
I don't think one could expect much more mental clarity from someone who doesn't know what sex they are. Once that revelation came about, it explained a lot.
@@LordPrometheous blah blah blah
@@Mewse1203 yeah
The poor woman is a total fool.
God is coming back....soon....I promise.... hopefully🤞🏾
How do people still believe this shit? My invisible friend is coming just give me a few more minutes.
They've been saying this for over 2000 years🤣🤣🤡
Maybe the same reason they think everyone slse should have unlimited patience. Its like expecting your dad to come back after he explicitly said he wasnt.
Dude, at this point in down to ridicule instead of reasonable conversation.
@@PerennialQuest hold on give them a few more minutes 😂
@@djb5275Sure bro. We'll give them another 2000 why the hell not!?🤣
It is estimated that around 100 billion people have lived in this world so far. Now, how far spread was this storybook, let's say 300 years ago. So, all those billions of people have never heard of that god. Couldn't have heard of that god even if they wanted to.
Now, that's what I call being very good at playing hide and seek.
The funny thing is the vibe I got from this person is that they actually think they accomplished something here, like they think they "got through" to someone that was listening and stuff and this was a fruitful endeavor. Crazy.
These throwback videos sure are great for drawing out the cult recruiters.
It’s so amazing watching people have to think about this stuff for the first time ever.
Honestly this one is sad because she seems very nice. She really hung in there and tried to defend her position. Def deserves credit for that if nothing else
I agree she's a lovely person but deluded.... I hope she learns how to critically think in the future.
@@Rubbafingaz1 Confidently deluded.
Pedophiles don’t need that example from anyone
@@ZER0--she definitely did not sound confident to me!
I;ve been there, braving the winds and standing up for my faith, looking back I made such an ass of myself.. so embarrasing
At least she admitted that believers believe for BAD REASONS.
I'm trying to work out the difference. What's a good reason, as opposed to a bad reason?
She parrotted the words but her response was way too quick to imply any thought.
@@user-Terry314 There were occasional hesitations led me to think there might have been thought but then she came back with words indicating there'd been no thought.. Impossible to interact with a person like that.
@@daydays12 there were no thoughts. That was buffering. She's still on a hard drive instead of an SSD.
@@LordPrometheous 🙂
So, by her logic, if I had eight kids and I wanted to prove to them that the way I think they should live is the best way, a good method would be to only teach ONE of the kids, and let the others screw up their lives until they finally see that the one that I taught is doing better?
well, the god in the bible is a giant douchebag. at least she is consitent with the text.
At best, their God is an incompetent pos. That's if he's real
@@timp7796
I'd say incompetent and evil but... yes.
The mental gymnastics Tara was going through there to explain her position would put Simone Biles in a wheelchair!
Because God is absolutely terrified of a camera!
"It's not our job as Christians to prove things..."
Yet you shamelessly proclaim the absolute truth. Funny how that works, isn't it?
Still believing in god I'm the 21st century sounds exhausting.
It's conceivable people would still believe in some god in the 31st century
@@johnmonk3381"Inconceivable!"
@@JasonTaylor90210 why inconceivable? As long as the origin of the universe remains unanswered, there will always be people who preach a supernatural origin and therefore religion. There is possibly no way to find out what happened before the universe exist because there is no information that could conceivably be derived from such a time if one existed
thank you for continuing to fight for understandable and non-aggressive communication
*Points out contradiction*
"Yes exactly!"
Smh
You can’t make this stuff up… even liberals have a code of morals unlike this gal.
Something I haven’t seen touched on was that Adam and his trans clone Eve were introduced into the world as fully formed adults that didn’t have the benefit of a childhood where most reinforcement for right and wrong is ingrained. Leaving them to their own devices would be equivalent to leaving a toddler unsupervised then holding the toddler accountable for any actions you didn’t approve of that the toddler may have done. Secondary until they ate the apple right and wrong would be as foreign to them as us knowing what precisely is at the center of a black hole. In a court proceeding I think it would be very difficult to hold mud man and his clone accountable but the being that was inherently responsible for them it would absolutely be convicted of negligence.
And did they have navels?
Humans: “Ready or not, here I come…”
Humans 2000+ years later: “Ok god this is getting ridiculous now, come on!”
He's just a bit late....
He's gonna come out closet soon
Yeah, but have you looked properly. I bet he's under the bed.
@@scotttchviski6706 I looked under the bed and all I saw was a note saying “repent for I am coming soon” dated April 1st. ☹️
@@itsaboutthattime4425 😉
My boss has ordered myself and co-workers to come in every Sunday to sing songs about him. Only for an hour, or so.
But now he wants our partners and kids to come in, too. He said if we don't do this, he's going to burn us.
I've been to HR and they're not helping.
For 2000 years really clever theologians have studied this book and no Nobel prize so far....
So, are you saying there were no clever theologians prior to 1901 since your standard for who is only considered to be clever is winning The Nobel Prize?
Also, Nobel prizes in literature are for works produced in that year the prize is offered to and for the peace prize it’s offered to the efforts of an individual, not a book.
So do you even have a point?
There has not been anybody who got a Nobel prize for studying any book. Nobel prizes are not given for studying books.
@@renedekker9806 discovering god would get you a prize in physics
@@kevinx7015 discovering god or the "super natural" would probably give you a prize in physics.
We've had clever people for 20000 years, I chose the Nobel prize because we all know about it.
Have a tremendous weekend
@@hansj5846 So, you don’t actually have a point since you haven’t established that what is important has to fit your personal criteria of what you want to receive as true.
Got it.
Science = Using facts to prove a theory, and being able to repeatedly show it.
Faith = Believing in something that has no proof of existence, and willing to argue your entire life that it does.
The scientific method involves careful observation coupled with rigorous scepticism, because cognitive assumptions can distort the interpretation of the observation
Actually science uses facts to prove a hypothesis. A scientific theory is already proven and is the very highest standard in science.
Also unlike faith, science can be critical of science as well, whereas as faith cannot ever since
If you have faith as huge as a mountain, you can never make a mountain jump into the ocean. Religious people need to come out of their caves from time to time.
This is a truly lost person searching for some sense in their life. They advocate for a book and religion that clearly hates them, they make claims that are immediately contradicting themselves, and they don’t even see the irony in it all. Truly sad
I did ask a religious friend why god was popping up and showing himself to loads of folk, all the time back in the day, but not so much nowadays.
Bc there's no cameras around then to disprove him. He seems to conveniently goes into hiding now that theres camera around lol
@@timp7796 He's kinda like bigfoot. If you put up a camera he goes away 😄😄😄
@timp7796 I've never been keen on having my photo taken so I get that.
What did he say?
Relegious miracles and claims only happen in the past or the future where proof is unobtainable , never the now .
My heart actually aches for her. She’s definitely lost, but maximum kudos to her for being able to actually think about what was being said, reconsider her own statements and beliefs, and remain legitimately open minded the entire time. She’s outdone so many “scholars” and “experts” that have gone to tears mere minutes into discussions with M Dilly. May God bless her if he’s real.
We just had the 2024 eclipse and here we still are. “2000 years and he ain’t shown yet, we kept his seat warm and the table set…”
And that is your brain on religion, don’t do religion, kids, or you too may end up as confused and delusion as that caller 🤦♂️
lol it's just as dangerous as any other hardcore drug..
The special pleading is strong with this one.
It's mind-blowing that anyone believes in these fairy tales in this day and age 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Not only do they believe them but they they think we're the stupid ones for _not_ believing them!
"FAIRY TALES!" Screams the atheist fool that believes the human being came from a rock, that morality came from a mud puddle, that life can come from a warm pond. Son, we have billions of mud puddles, rocks & warm ponds. NONE OF THEM has ever produced anything NEW. You're atheist desperation is noted. SORRY KID, but it’s blatant stupidity (atheism) to think that star dust, moist rocks and mud puddles have the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE AND MEANS to create/design LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS, MORALITY, the human being and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body :) Atheism is pure idiocy. You have a ton to learn. Thank God I'm here to teach you the facts, because you're totally lost & clueless.
@@DrJames3163 Where is your evidence for your fictional god?
@@DrJames3163 Repeat after me: abiogenesis and evolution can explain existence of life and speciation as we know it. Evolution is one of the most proven scientific theory in the history, abiogenesis was proven as viable and totally possible origin of life on early Earth. We have REAL POSSIBLE WAY HOW LIFE EMERGED ON EARTH COMPLETELY NATURALLY.
@@DrJames3163 Repeat after me: we have NO EVIDENCE about any of more than 3000 gods. Every religion survive only through ABUSING OF CHILDREN with brainwashing and theistic indoctrinaction. Every religion is cult based on dogma.
These shows really help me with the process of logical thinking. Thanks guys!
Any entity that cannot give me the numbers for Powerball and Megamillions is not worthy to be called god.
Exactly brother! preach it! xD
Believers always coming up with some BS excuse
"Something better is coming," for almost 2,000 years now. I can't fathom that I once believed all that b.s. for over 40 years. Santa Claus, the easter bunny, the tooth fairy, the great pumpkin and finally god!
So Satan was calling the shots? So he is more powerful than god? Why would an all powerful god allow the existence of Satan in the first place? Why does anyone believe at all? This is one of the best AXP videos ever!
These people are completely sick. I have been raised as Christian by my mom, sort of, dad was atheist already and knew that in time we (me and brother) will be as well. But even as Christian (Catholic) my mom always told me that the crazy stories in the bible who are magical and contradict science, we're not real. Just allegories. I mean, even as Christian, between 6 and 15 I have always been told these stories were rubbish. It makes no sense to me that grown up people believe this crap.
@@jaflenbond7854Your nasty book is not proof of anything except brainwashing. The people who poisoned your mind should be in jail. I bet you didn't even listen to the video. Would you like to respond to the arguments? Go on give it a go.
@@jaflenbond7854 Blabla from insane mind.
@@jaflenbond7854 Repeat after me: we have NO EVIDENCE about any of more than 3000 gods. Every religion survive only through ABUSING OF CHILDREN with brainwashing and theistic indoctrinaction. Every religion is cult based on dogma.
@@jaflenbond7854 Repeat after me: Bible is very poor, immoral, incoherrent book of stories and fairy tales with more than 550 direct contradictions. It's just a summary of lore, beliefs, and culture of iron age ignorant superstitious misogynistic violent immoral goat herders, who INVENTED GOD for explaining pure natural phenomena. God is just man made idea, nothing more.
@@jaflenbond7854 Repeat after me: Jesus is just a legend, myth. We have zero evidence about his existence outside of the bible and in the bible everything is just a hearsay written decades after his alleged existence. Babbling about Jesus is as much valid as babbling about Sauron from Lord of the Ring.
God sure does like to pay silly little games.
Better than his murderous rampages!
I thought God doesn’t exist?
@@Kdeezy1 Neither does Gandalf, but I can still say he's a powerful wizard.
@@0Fyrebrand0 Gandalf obviously does exist. Within this world.
@@Kdeezy1 That seems like it would be big news, if true. Shouldn't he be a huge celebrity? Does he have an Instagram or something I can check out? Or is he retired, living the quiet life?
A Christian only has answers and can never say "I don't know the answer to that"
@@lifeinthe80s I *DONT* know the answer but I sure as hell know no one else does either
Because they think saying 'I don't know' is taking the L and they don't want to that. Instead, what they'll do is put us through all these mental gymnastics to get a gotcha moment.
@@lifeinthe80sBut here's the difference, when Atheists say I don't know but it's more so "I don't know let's do some research or wait for more research to be done".
When Christians say I don't know they jump back on faith because they have no valid reasons to believe in God or their religion.
Callers being forced to USE THEIR BRAIN!!! lol!!!
"THINK MCFLY!!!! THINK!!!!"
I love these throwbacks! ❤
It's amazing how people are experts in a nonsense story that defies all logic and reality.
10:57 - "how can you tell the difference?" That's just about the only question I need an answer to.
You can tell the difference because a false belief can only be held by faith. If it requires faith it is likely false.
The first time in a discussion someone doesn't answer your question appropriately out of common courtesy, it should be a sign of where the truth of the debate or conversation is going?
"There's a storm brewing."
That was 6.5 years ago. Jeez.
Ngl...things have been pretty turbulent.
I miss the good ole days🥹
Yeah, AIDS was awesum
I know. "The Line" has lost the plot.
@@chrisccc22 how so?
@@deenman23too much politics these days, I assume.
@@user-vx9jy7jl2l like what?
Personal experience for believing in god is not good enough when that same god will damn people to eternal torture for not believing. If he is all loving, he should show it to everyone with this personal experience thing. If he won't, he's clearly not all loving.
11:31 "Apply faith generously and allow to harden overnight"
That logic shit really baffles believers
"LOGIC!" Screams the lost and clueless atheist fool that thinks star dust, moist rocks and mud puddles have the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES AND MEANS to create/design LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS, MORALITY, the human being and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body :) Atheism is pure idiocy.
The religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. That's because atheism RUNS from "reality." I would add that as an atheist, you're bankrupt of RATIONAL/POSSIBLE causes for life, intelligence, consciousness, morality and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body.
Atheism has no RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step by step atheist explanation for reality. That’s because there isn’t one. THINK ABOUT what you’re getting into w/ the cult of atheism. GET OUT NOW. I’ll help you find truth. Atheism has none.
Well women can’t use logic in general so that variable destroys the validity of the claim
@@HunterAnsorge-ok9jkWell, Aren't you quite the A-Hole.
Fucking hiliarous! I wish I could give you a hundred more likes, that really had me giggling
@@HunterAnsorge-ok9jkright, because males that call into this show have such logical points. Like the flat earth dude. 😂
caller did not understand the responses and statements offered by the hosts.
The bible says believers must give a reason for what they believe. It doesn't say it has to be a good reason. checkmate!
And, sure enough, it never is!
If God is omnipresent who's fault is it that some people can't find God? Why do they even need to try to find God?
Bc their God is a shy gayy pos that hasn't come out closet yet
Tara seems to know God personally as she knows everything.
oh how easily some folks are duped..
So...an omnipotent diety creates...EVERYthing...and then feels it must prove that to...itself?
It's spelled "deity." Unless you are heavy and are actually on a diet. So are you saying that God created us, knows about every sparrow and cares deeply, but is hiding because of petulance?
The problem with the symbolic argument is that in the next few verses, it literally points out that Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden because if they had also eaten from the Tree of Life they would have lived forever. This suggests that the trees themselves were actually magical
Yes it’s kinda all over the place
They are magical. Have you even been to a forest after spending time in a city? The oxygen is almost dopamine rich.
@@HunterAnsorge-ok9jk not sure what that has to do with magical immortality and knowledge fruit but ok.
@@adamplentl5588 clearly you’ve never been put in a chokehold during a scuffle
@@HunterAnsorge-ok9jk Id like you to give it a shot.
Lol, that is hilarious, huh? God lied to Adam and Eve and the Devil told them the truth, and we're supposed to worship God?
He not only lied, but tricked them:
How can you make a moral decision, i.e. know that disobeying god is "evil", when you do not have the knowledge of "good and evil"?
That doesn't make ANY sense.
It's like giving a live grenade to a baby, and complaining it destroyed your house.
@@vertigo4236exactly, you can't get mad at someone who literally has no moral compass and doesn't even know what good and evil is. That's beyond insane.
@vertigo4236 how did he lie?
@@flyguyry1 Wow, you really need to stop being so lazy and read the Bible for yourself. Sigh, so pathetic. All right, lazy, here is the passage from Genesis, but your ignorance of your own religion is so typical and pathetic.
And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you[f] shall surely die.”
So did he DIE THAT DAY? NOPE!!! God LIED because he was afraid that Adam and Eve would become JUST LIKE HIM. Here's that passage, lazy.
Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”- 23 therefore the Lord God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken.
Stop being such a sheep, read things for yourself, and try to think for yourself.
Every time Tara heaves a huge sigh, it's That Moment when she knows her position is completely screwed.
And yet it doesn't stop her from continuing like nothing happened, as expected. "Right." *fails to acknowledge the contradiction.*
When I was 5 or 6 years old, my parents gave me books about Aesop’s fables, Mother Goose stories, Fairy tales, etc., and almost all of those stories had talking animals. I asked my Dad if animals can really talk, and he told me that it was make-believe (which I later labeled Suspended disbelief). I put those books on my make-believe shelf, along with Mickey Mouse, Peter Rabbit, and Winnie the Pooh. One day my well-meaning but deluded Presbyterian grandmother gave me a book of Bible stories for children. In the very first story, I found a talking snake. That book went straight to the make-believe shelf, where it has remained for over 65 years. (Later edit: I acknowledge that there is one species of animal that can talk. Ours.) (And some birds.)
It's depressing listening to what religion does to people who otherwise would be perfectly reasonable.
Lol, no silly, a snake can't talk!!! A POSSESSED snake can talk. See how that makes sense now?
Nope it now makes even less sense
sheesh how do people navigate life with such poor reasoning skills? it's scary and so sad too
It absolutely baffles me.....what these callers will come up with as evidence for a GOD
Adam and Eve ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Before they ate the fruit, they did not know good and evil, right or wrong. So, up until they took the first bite, they did not have a concept of wrong, so they did not know that it was wrong to disobey God. God punished them, and all future generations, for doing something they had no reason to know was wrong. God is a total ass-h*le. Plus, that totally negates the idea of original sin, so what is Jesus for?
Another thing, why would they suddenly become “aware of their nakedness,” as if suddenly they think it is wrong? If I was God, I would punish them for being ashamed of the beautiful bodies that I created for them. Adam and Eve’s only sin was the invention of body shame.
Steel manning the Christian position they might argue that it was because god said not to yet they did, not they had no knowledge of right or wrong prior to eating the fruit or whatever. But I agree god (if it exists at all) would still be an asshole overall lol.
The fact we wear clothes is proof we are aware of our nakedness and confirms the genesis account to be true. And God told adam not to eat from the tree. He knew what not to do. Just because he didn’t know it was evil to do that doesn’t mean he didn’t know not to do it. I thought you guys liked to think logically?¿
Adam still knew what not to do. He didn’t know it was evil. That’s not logical thinking. Just because you don’t know it’s wrong to not obey, doesn’t mean you don’t have the capacity to obey.
And the fact that we wear clothing at all just confirms genesis. We are aware of our nakedness and shame so we cover up. If we evolved then we would be like the animals and not be wearing clothes. We would be suited for our environment like every other creature.
Adam still had the mental capacity to obey what God told him to do. Just because you don’t know it’s wrong to do something doesn’t mean you can’t obey what someone told you to do or not do. The fact we wear clothes at all just confirms the genesis account.
Persecuted for fictional crimes. Every example of God's behavior sure sounds like human behavior to me. It's almost as if humans invented the concept as a self-insert. Another score for Voltaire
You can give these people absolute black and white rationality and reason and they just reject it because they sooo want to be immortal
We are immortal. Our soul & spirit are immortal. Hell? We only have the Bible and thousands of NDE testimonies to know about hell. Some people say “WE LIVE ONCE!” Yes and you die once also. And you’ll be dead for a longgggg time. 100 trillion yrs and you’ll still be dead. But hey, we don’t really die; we just change locations. God kills us all at some point:
“And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:” - Hebrews 9:27
And if you don’t understand eternity now, you’ll understand it then. You arrive in hell (if you die sealed in your sin) the moment you die w/ your last gasp and your temporary free will expired. THEN you will wish 100+ trillion times that you had never been born. IMMEDIATELY you know you’re in hell, because the heat is much too hot for life. The stench is far worse than dozens of open sewers & the sulfuric smell is toxic. But you’ve taken God for granted and without his grace, you’re in hell now FOREVER. And the most horrible mental torture you bear in hell is that you know you will never get out.
On earth, you can breathe, be comforted, eat, smell fragrances, enjoy relationships, sleep, daydream, walk around in freedom, watch entertainment, go swimming and enjoy the things God has provided. But in hell NONE of that is possible. To add some more, there will be no comforts in hell, such as communication, a fresh breath of air, relaxation, quiet, room temperature, calm, water, freedom from predators, food. On top of that, demons will torture you. Whatever sin you committed on earth, you will be grouped w/ those people and tormented by demons FOREVER that actually get high on your pain. If you’re not screaming loud enough, demons come to you to fix it.
Don't continue to be ignorant. God loves you because you were created in his image. But he's also your Judge. I would say that you fail to understand exactly who God is. His awesome greatness is beyond your comprehension. You're breathing air that doesn't belong to you. Taking up space that doesn't belong to you. Given a life that doesn't belong to you. He brought you from nothing and you're nothing, YET you feel totally justified to raise your tiny stupid fist at him. THAT is what you are; never mind him. That said, Jesus loves you dearly & has shown you this love by bringing you from non-existence & giving you “the gift of life.” And did you say “thank you?” No. He also removed your doom via the sin of Adam by the suffering on the cross for you. And did you say “thank you?” No. He’s also “prepared a place for you in Heaven” if you’ll only return his love that’s already given you. And did you say “thank you?” No. Again, it’s the “love” of Jesus for people is what attracts them to Christianity. Your move, Chief.
@user-dy3uh I've apparently did more research that you, because that happens every day and there are many famous cases of the very thing you describe, whether it's atheists, Hindu's or any of the other cults.
@@PowersParty729 You've never done an ounce of research in your life. Otherwise, you'd have been smarter than make a prophetic claim with an expiration date.
@user-dy3uh NDEs aren't proof of anything supernatural.
Bet you a million bucks the caller is a seventh day adventist.
I love it when the callers exhale loudly. It means that they are cornered, they don’t have an answer the question, but then most of them will still come up with some kind of word salad because they will not let go of their belief system.
Her positions match Jehovah witness very much. Lots of their keywords. This system, god's method of ruling being tested, 144000, politics, ...
Yes.
Definitely. Only JWs speak about god sovereignty and Jesus being inferior. But I’m amazed she’s trans though!
I thought the same thing.
11:34 "Faith is more than rolling the dice"
Really? Please provide support evidence that this is the case. Take your time, I am not going anywhere.
Why would one need to provide evidence in order to determine whether or not having faith in a God who wants us to rely on faith instead of relying on established evidence?
After all, it’s possible that a lack of such evidence for the world to see could be due to there being a God who withholds that evidence of divinity from the world because that God wants us to rely on faith in that God.
And such obvious evidence of faith in such a God, such as a miraculous event, would make the point of having faith in that God moot.
So, how does your request for evidence matter?
*Blaise Pascal:* "Actually, let me tell you how it is precisely like rolling the dice!"
@@kevinx7015 "how does your request for evidence matter"
I didn't ask evidence for god. I asked for evidence that would demonstrate that when trying to establish what exists in reality (gods or anything else), the claim that faith was better than rolling dice was a correct claim.
@user-dy3uh How is everything evidence that the world can see evidence for a God who wants us to rely on faith?
@@JGM0JGM So what is your realistic evidence that proves the belief in a God who witholds evidence of divinity on purpose can be applied to the scientific method?
If you can’t provide such evidence then your claim that faith is no better than rolling the dice is not proven to be correct.
I have a king cobra who talks. He's kind of tough.
Is his name Satan?
@@WizardImp No. I call him Sweetness and Light.
0:20
"it's related to the PROBLEM OF EVIL"
LOL. Was there ever a thing called "the problem of evil" ?
"Basically if we go back to the garden of eden"
Yeah, let's go back to a place that never existed
it's fucking amazing how these people start.
Hi my name is Tara
Proceeds to immediately spin absolutely bullshit
12:00 “Faith is belief without evidence or reason; coincidentally that’s also the definition of delusion.” (Richard Dawkins)
If the story of Adam and Eve was true which it isn't it makes God worse than Satan. God allowed man kinds oldest enemy into the garden along with two magical trees one of which the snake guy talked them into eating while God sat by and watched.
Tara has only a very tentative apprehension of her own vague views. Thanks for sharing but I don’t think she could run a bathtub.
This woman is half way there. She even admitted she could be wrong a few times.
7:45 "most people of faith god has not revealed himself to" funny, most people that believe in dumpty the ex pres he has revealed himself to, and they still believe his bs.
Reason in one ear and out the other.
I actually hear some doubt starting to creep into Tara’s mind. She might be saved yet.
She might be saved yet. Excellent line.
You are optimistic, but may be there's some hope for her.
Not sure, her stupid is strong on this one
"one of us! one of us!" xD
Take a religious book. Go to a science lab. Test it verse by verse.
...then you are free from religion after a few repeated lab results.
Definitely a throwback - before the days of supporting delusions in the chyron.
Con artists will never change.
Do what we say (don't learn; we'll tell you what to do), remain poor (we want your money while you're alive), turn the other cheek when you're abused (especially by us) and have faith that you'll get your payday after you are dead. Likely story.
"I don't like pushing religion onto people, but I'm here to spread the message of God"
Tell me, your knowledge, I thought I had it for 40+ years, but I was wrong. I'm open minded, please persuade me.😊
Lol, go back to the Garden of Eden? How can adults be so incredibly childish?
Christianity revealed the God they believe in through their Bibles. Isaiah 45:7 “I form the light, and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord that do all these things". From Genesis through Revelation Christianity's God reveals himself to be insecure, indecisive, intolerant, destructive and genocidal. And it all started when we chose knowledge.
Right, think about it. It's almost an unconscious metaphor. The more we learn, the more we become, the less need we have for a master, or a savior. I don't think the people that made these stories up understood this - but we can. The things we attributed to a being outside of time and space are now quantified, codified, explained. We know more about the universe we find ourselves in every day. That's why so many of the uneducated or undereducated cling to faith - they can't conceive of a world outside of the stories they internalized.
@@thomasdjonesnIt's also good for the controllers that wrote it. Dumb people are easier to control.
We are spending so much time talking about God and debating his existence. If he does exist, it should be proven with evidence, not just cheap talk. Looking at the complexity of the universe with millions of stars and galaxies, it seems impossible for his existence. If he is more complicated than the universe, or if he could just reveal himself, that would settle this argument. Take care.
A TRANSWOMAN talks about God and his will. You can't imagine.
I honestly feel that even if we managed to get everyone (theist and non-theist alike) to agree that the entire "fall from grace" portion of the tale of Adam & Eve was just metaphorical, it's still an extremely shitty metaphor. The moral of the story amounts to "do as I say and don't question it", yet given that this supposedly all knowing and allegedly wise God made the rather silly mistake of making humans inherently curious and prone to questioning every bloody thing under the sun and beyond, isn't it all too inevitable that humanity would have "failed" to follow his rather arbitrary and poorly explained rules? Even if we toss the metaphor angle out entirely and you could somehow convince every atheist to abandon their scepticism and just assent to the notion that this one particular bit of the Bible was a factual historical event - all it proves is that the Christian God is an idiot!
*_edit:_* "I realized that it wasn't our job as Christians to prove things, we're here to plant seeds and it's God's job [to prove things]." (* I presume this is where the caller was going)
"Actually it's your job to give a reason for the faith that you have. So it is your job to prove things."
"Right, exactly..."
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